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2008-05-25 02:08 < Lubaf> Next is "Revert"
2008-05-25 02:09 * denelson83 is listening to "Bruce Springsteen - Radio Nowhere" (3:19 - 192kbps - 44kHz - Stereo)
2008-05-25 02:09 < Lubaf> Alkivar: Revert.
2008-05-25 02:09 < Alkivar> revert wars
2008-05-25 02:09 < denelson83> Muses --> [23:05:12] <Alkivar> the comedy/tragedy masks
2008-05-25 02:09 < Lubaf> Alkivar: DanielB|Away.
2008-05-25 02:10 < Alkivar> who?
2008-05-25 02:10 < denelson83> That's what the masks are called; the Muses
2008-05-25 02:10 < Lubaf> Alkivar: The guy I did the same quiz with in the other channel.
2008-05-25 02:10 < Alkivar> ahh
2008-05-25 02:10 < Alkivar> yeah denelson thx
2008-05-25 02:10 < Lubaf> denelson83: No, the muses are different, IIRC.
2008-05-25 02:10 * denelson83 just pops in for a bit
2008-05-25 02:11 * denelson83 also has garlic breath
2008-05-25 02:11 < Lubaf> denelson83: No, wait, you're right.
2008-05-25 02:11 < Lubaf> Melpomene and Thalia.
2008-05-25 02:11 < Lubaf> Although there were other Muses.
2008-05-25 02:13 * denelson83 has apparently killed the chat
2008-05-25 02:16 < AdamBishop> hmm, facebook ads are annoying, and creepy
2008-05-25 02:17 < DChanter> There's somethign wrong.
2008-05-25 02:17 < DChanter> With the scope of Wikipedia.
2008-05-25 02:17 < AdamBishop> too much crap?
2008-05-25 02:17 < DChanter> sort of
2008-05-25 02:18 < DChanter> my issue is that it's no longer a community of knowledge.
2008-05-25 02:18 < DChanter> Instead, a community of paraphrasing.
2008-05-25 02:19 * Mike_H cuddles DChanter
2008-05-25 02:19 < DChanter> hmm.
2008-05-25 02:19 < DChanter> I thought I'd be beaten up for saying that.
2008-05-25 02:19 < Sonja> how do i make text in a talk page a certain colour?
2008-05-25 02:19 < DChanter> With people going OMG POLICY OMG
2008-05-25 02:19 < Sonja> blue, for instance
2008-05-25 02:19 < Mike_H> DChanter: I just cuddle people.
2008-05-25 02:19 < Sonja> to help coordinate a project and show what corresponds to what
2008-05-25 02:20 < Mike_H> Sonja: are you the same Sonja who had extra a's on their screen name?
2008-05-25 02:20 < Mike_H> are you formerly Sonjaaaa?
2008-05-25 02:20 < Sonja> hi Mike_H!
2008-05-25 02:20 < Sonja> do i know you?
2008-05-25 02:20 < AdamBishop> I think it's well known that Wikipedia sucks, DChanter
2008-05-25 02:20 * Mike_H cuddles Sonja
2008-05-25 02:20 < Sonja> i go by sonjaaa when sonja is taken
2008-05-25 02:20 < Mike_H> I should hope so
2008-05-25 02:20 < Mike_H> we've talked before.
2008-05-25 02:20 < Sonja> refresnh my memory!
2008-05-25 02:20 < uberpenguin> Mike_H: did I already show you this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZUk8hKIUjU
2008-05-25 02:20 < Sonja> (cuz it sucks)
2008-05-25 02:20 < Mike_H> um
2008-05-25 02:20 < Mike_H> I live in Florida
2008-05-25 02:20 < Sonja> or pm me
2008-05-25 02:20 < Mike_H> used to do internship stuff with WMF
2008-05-25 02:21 < uberpenguin> pssh, everyone knows Mike
2008-05-25 02:21 < uberpenguin> EVERYONE
2008-05-25 02:21 < uberpenguin> IN THE WORLD
2008-05-25 02:21 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: god, you're so thin
2008-05-25 02:21 < Mike_H> you piss me off
2008-05-25 02:22 * bumm13 flabbo
2008-05-25 02:22 < uberpenguin> Mike_H: I'm sorry
2008-05-25 02:22 < bumm13> boing!
2008-05-25 02:22 < uberpenguin> I eat very little...
2008-05-25 02:22 < DChanter> Yeah. But who makes Wikipedia suck?
2008-05-25 02:22 < uberpenguin> you do
2008-05-25 02:22 < uberpenguin> GET OUT
2008-05-25 02:23 < uberpenguin> p.s. being thin means it's just as hard to find pants that fit right
2008-05-25 02:23 < uberpenguin> most of my good pants are altered
2008-05-25 02:24 < DChanter> Haha. I make Wikipedia suck by suggesting its flaws?
2008-05-25 02:24 < Mike_H> uberpenguin: God, what's your waist
2008-05-25 02:24 < Mike_H> like a 29?
2008-05-25 02:24 < uberpenguin> 31~32
2008-05-25 02:24 < uberpenguin> geez, a 29 and I'd have to have the entire pants made
2008-05-25 02:25 < uberpenguin> there wouldn't be enough room to take in the waist without joining both back pockets :P
2008-05-25 02:25 < Sonja> is there no way to change text colour in a talk page?
2008-05-25 02:25 < uberpenguin> <span style="color: #rgb;"></span>
2008-05-25 02:26 < uberpenguin> actually... better make that font-color
2008-05-25 02:26 < uberpenguin> but don't use colored text... it's evil
2008-05-25 02:26 < Sonja> yeah
2008-05-25 02:29 < uberpenguin> wait why are we talking about pants
2008-05-25 02:29 < uberpenguin> do you like my annoying noise machine?
2008-05-25 02:29 < Sonja> flannel trousers?
2008-05-25 02:30 < uberpenguin> nay
2008-05-25 02:31 < FastLizard4> bumm13: why? :P
2008-05-25 02:31 < bumm13> hiya uberpenguin
2008-05-25 02:31 < uberpenguin> hi again
2008-05-25 02:31 < uberpenguin> do you ever sleep, dude?
2008-05-25 02:31 < FastLizard4> bumm13: SoCal has been having crazy whether
2008-05-25 02:32 < bumm13> FastLizard4 - well, several reasons
2008-05-25 02:32 < FastLizard4> bumm13: Oh, and I said "why?" because I noticed your dircbot comment for that ban :P
2008-05-25 02:33 < Sonja> can an admin tell me what was the contents of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=winceyette ?
2008-05-25 02:33 < Sonja> i may need it to work on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=flannel
2008-05-25 02:34 < bumm13> FastLizard4 - the recent dircbot action was a ban removal
2008-05-25 02:34 < FastLizard4> bumm13: I know
2008-05-25 02:34 < bumm13> oh, in the admins channel?
2008-05-25 02:35 < FastLizard4> bumm13: yeah
2008-05-25 02:35 < Alkivar> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/50428/the-website-is-down-because-someone-removed-the-x-box.html
2008-05-25 02:35 < Alkivar> LOL
2008-05-25 02:35 < Alkivar> that would totally have happened at the last place i worked
2008-05-25 02:35 < bumm13> hmm, I wasn't in there
2008-05-25 02:35 < uberpenguin> Sonja: "A magical group of four lovely young ladies constitute the Winceyette Ladies Society, they are highly intelligent, sparkly and kind. Winceyette activities include: consuming delicious dishes, practicing karate, contemplating world issues, scrabble playing, fashion innovation and collaborative works in appliqué. Winceyettes will one day rule the world. Oh yes and also a light cotton flannelette.
2008-05-25 02:35 < Chris_G> Sonja, A magical group of four lovely young ladies constitute the Winceyette Ladies Society, they are highly intelligent, sparkly and kind. Winceyette activities include: consuming delicious dishes, practicing karate, contemplating world issues, scrabble playing, fashion innovation and collaborative works in appliqué. Winceyettes will one day rule the world. Oh yes and also a light cotton flannelette.
2008-05-25 02:35 < uberpenguin> BEATEN
2008-05-25 02:35 < bumm13> zomg flood!
2008-05-25 02:35 < Chris_G> lol
2008-05-25 02:36 < rory096> Alkivar: repost
2008-05-25 02:36 < Chris_G> it had the vfd notice at the top as well
2008-05-25 02:38 < Sonja> ohh ok
2008-05-25 02:38 < Sonja> so it wasn't about the type of fabric
2008-05-25 02:40 < Alkivar> http://windowsitpro.com/article/articleid/50428/the-website-is-down-because-someone-removed-the-x-box.html
2008-05-25 02:40 < Alkivar> thats a repost?
2008-05-25 02:41 < rory096> Alkivar: yep
2008-05-25 02:41 < Alkivar> its old yes... but i'd never seen it
2008-05-25 02:41 < rory096> i posted it a few hours ago
2008-05-25 02:41 < Alkivar> oh
2008-05-25 02:41 < rory096> owned :D
2008-05-25 02:43 < uberpenguin> ? than power transistors and a big capacitor?
2008-05-25 02:43 < uberpenguin> bah, stoopid window focus
2008-05-25 02:43 < uberpenguin> discregard
2008-05-25 02:43 < uberpenguin> disregard as well
2008-05-25 02:43 < rory096> heh
2008-05-25 02:43 < bumm13> discrargot
2008-05-25 02:43 < uberpenguin> *discargot
2008-05-25 02:43 < uberpenguin> misspell it right, okay
2008-05-25 02:45 < Mike_H> escargots
2008-05-25 02:45 < Sonja> i'm trying to sort out the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=flannel article if anyboyd wants to help... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flannel#Dictionary_time
2008-05-25 02:45 < Sonja> i think there are 2 or 3 different things called flannel
2008-05-25 02:46 < bumm13> uberpenguin: it wasn't meant to be spelled right in that context :-)
2008-05-25 02:48 < AdamBishop> "As part of the course we are required to use a Wikipedia userpage to post updates on our projects. "
2008-05-25 02:48 < AdamBishop> er...that can't be good.
2008-05-25 02:49 < AdamBishop> inappropriate usage of a userpage? Or something?
2008-05-25 02:49 < rory|zzz> wp:not a web host
2008-05-25 02:49 < AdamBishop> [[User:Alp38]]
2008-05-25 02:51 < rory|zzz> ugh, a sociology major
2008-05-25 02:51 * rory|zzz is sleeping
2008-05-25 02:55 < bumm13> sociology is like the bane of Freenode ;)
2008-05-25 02:57 * Mike_H faints on rory|zzz
2008-05-25 03:20 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-05-25 03:21 * FastLizard4 hands bumm13 a book titled "The Oracle PL/SQL Programming Language"
2008-05-25 03:22 < bumm13> :x
2008-05-25 03:29 < E_Wing> I think I need a help of an admin here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AE_Wing&diff=cur&oldid=prev
2008-05-25 03:31 < E_Wing> tnx
2008-05-25 03:32 < FastLizard4> E_Wing: You picked the wrong time of day to find an admin, try in #wikipedia-en
2008-05-25 03:32 < E_Wing> Oops sorry, tnx
2008-05-25 03:53 * FastLizard4 is now going to bed, good night!
2008-05-25 04:43 < p858snake> i'm playing with Template:Episode list is there anyway to get LineColor to show up without ShortSummary?
2008-05-25 05:20 < Lycurgus> RIP Dick Martin (of Rowan and Martin ("Laugh-In"))
2008-05-25 05:29 < Pradalvr> If anyone see Darkfalls tell him i waited almost all day for him
2008-05-25 05:37 < Lycurgus> don't you have an email for him? Can't you leave a msg on his talk page?
2008-05-25 05:38 < Lycurgus> btw, does your nick mean "Prada Lover">
2008-05-25 05:38 < Lycurgus> s/>/?/
2008-05-25 05:38 < Pradalvr> lol...yes
2008-05-25 05:39 < Pradalvr> its an name i picked up a long time ago
2008-05-25 05:42 < Pradalvr> is Darkfalls a regular here
2008-05-25 06:06 < Alkivar> holy crap how much cocaine was this singer dude on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpV5InLw52U
2008-05-25 06:14 < Lycurgus> I'm guessing that you are 1) over 40 and 2) a republican.
2008-05-25 06:15 < Lycurgus> (on the basis of that comment and your user page)
2008-05-25 06:18 < bumm13> hiya Fire
2008-05-25 06:19 < Fire> hi bumm
2008-05-25 06:33 < KestasUPSY> hi
2008-05-25 06:34 < bumm13> hi
2008-05-25 06:34 < KestasUPSY> could i ask about license of images?
2008-05-25 06:34 < bumm13> go ahead
2008-05-25 06:35 < KestasUPSY> if i receive the photo from the author, which licence i have to set?
2008-05-25 06:35 < KestasUPSY> author let me use it on wikipedia
2008-05-25 06:35 < bumm13> that's not allowed on Wikipedia
2008-05-25 06:35 < bumm13> (permission-only images)
2008-05-25 06:37 < KestasUPSY> so, i cannot use it on wikipedia, yes?
2008-05-25 06:37 < bumm13> not under those terms, no
2008-05-25 06:38 < mattbuck> policy states that if a free version could exist, then we shouldn't use a non-free version
2008-05-25 06:39 < KestasUPSY> because i am writing an article about an actor, and the actor sent me a photo by e-mail and let me use it on Wikipedia.
2008-05-25 06:40 < mattbuck> i'm afraid that he'd have to release it freely, or it can't be used
2008-05-25 06:41 < bumm13> we simply can't use "permission only" photos, period
2008-05-25 06:41 < bumm13> it's part of the image usage policy
2008-05-25 06:43 < KestasUPSY> interesting, because my country laws demand only that author agree with usage ant that's it.
2008-05-25 06:44 < bumm13> well, this has to do with allowing commercial use of WP content
2008-05-25 06:44 < bumm13> (like how the GFDL does)
2008-05-25 06:46 < KestasUPSY> oh, ok. thanks for information
2008-05-25 06:48 < bumm13> no problem :)
2008-05-25 06:50 < KestasUPSY> by the way, if i do an link of the name of something with quotes (for example: "The Angel"), so i have to make a link with quotes or wihout that?
2008-05-25 06:53 < bumm13> such as "[[The Angel]]" ?
2008-05-25 06:53 < bumm13> or
2008-05-25 06:53 < bumm13> actually
2008-05-25 06:53 < bumm13> [["The Angel"]] ?
2008-05-25 06:56 < bumm13> unless the article name were to have quotation marks (which is unlikely), then [[The Angel|"The Angel"]] would work
2008-05-25 06:59 < Alkivar> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1021640/Titanic-search-Cold-War-cover-story-secret-mission-nuclear-subs.html
2008-05-25 07:06 < KestasUPSY> yes, I ask [["The Anglel"]] or "[[The Anglel]]".
2008-05-25 07:08 < p858snake> KestasUPSY: link us to the article in question?
2008-05-25 07:10 < KestasUPSY> yes
2008-05-25 07:12 < bumm13> you would use the same method I showed before
2008-05-25 07:14 < Pradalvr> How do i change my password on irc
2008-05-25 07:15 < Werdna> Pradalvr: /msg nickserv hel
2008-05-25 07:15 < Werdna> Pradalvr: /msg nickserv help
2008-05-25 07:18 < Leslie_S> . /msg Werdna help
2008-05-25 07:18 < Leslie_S> :D
2008-05-25 07:19 < Leslie_S> Werdna hey, i love how on your rfa, people are saying that you cant be an admin because you use irc
2008-05-25 07:19 < Leslie_S> seriously, wtf
2008-05-25 07:19 < tombom> Voice your opinion (talk page) (147/4/4); Scheduled to end 23:14, 27 May 2008 (UTC) Jordanfeldman (talk � contribs) - Jordan Feldman Jordanfeldman (talk) 01:05, 25 May 2008 (UTC) I am nominating myself.
2008-05-25 07:19 < tombom> wait what happened here
2008-05-25 07:20 < tombom> whattttt the rfa link links to
2008-05-25 07:21 < Pradalvr> that didnt work i am typing without spaces / msg nickserve password ****
2008-05-25 07:21 < Pradalvr> Unknown command [PASSWORD]
2008-05-25 07:21 < ST47> it's set password
2008-05-25 07:21 < Pradalvr> oh
2008-05-25 07:23 < Pradalvr> No such nick/channel
2008-05-25 07:23 < Flo_1> nickserv
2008-05-25 07:23 < Flo_1> not nickserve
2008-05-25 07:23 < ST47> That too
2008-05-25 07:23 < Pradalvr> ahh
2008-05-25 07:23 < Pradalvr> hold on
2008-05-25 07:24 < Pradalvr> yep...you are right
2008-05-25 07:42 < Pradalvr> If i post a page and its linked to slanderous site , will those be posted too
2008-05-25 07:43 < tombom> huh
2008-05-25 07:45 < Pradalvr> if that made sense...again i am about to fall asleep
2008-05-25 07:45 < Pradalvr> If i posted an article (bio)
2008-05-25 07:45 < tombom> right
2008-05-25 07:46 < tombom> posted where?
2008-05-25 07:47 < Pradalvr> can anyone link sites with slander articles ..in wikipedia
2008-05-25 07:51 < Pradalvr> as references
2008-05-25 07:53 < tombom> wp:rs i guess
2008-05-25 07:53 < tombom> what site are you thinking of
2008-05-25 07:54 < Pradalvr> for instance....suppose i wrote about paul allen
2008-05-25 07:57 < Pradalvr> can someone dig up dirt and post it under references or links and modify my bio like this
2008-05-25 07:59 < Pradalvr> because personally , i think an encyclopedia should just offer the facts
2008-05-25 08:05 < Pradalvr> I'll be back...i just don't think wikipedia should be used as a slander playground
2008-05-25 08:23 < tombom> what was pradalvr talking about :S
2008-05-25 08:26 < JanisB> Hello, for what wikipedia admins need bots if they can do all changes directly in DB, and it could be faster, than using default web-interface?
2008-05-25 08:28 < zocky> JanisB, admins don't have access to the DB
2008-05-25 08:28 < zocky> JanisB, only developers do, and they're not normally allowed to use it for changing pages
2008-05-25 08:28 < JanisB> ok, `people, that have installed wikipedia`
2008-05-25 08:28 < zocky> JanisB, you mean mediawiki?
2008-05-25 08:29 < zocky> because changing a page requires changes to several tables at once
2008-05-25 08:29 < JanisB> and it is impossible with single SQL-query?
2008-05-25 08:29 < zocky> you can easily get your wiki screwed that way
2008-05-25 08:29 < Filnik> hi
2008-05-25 08:30 < JanisB> i can't see difference between my own SQL and the same queries that was done over wiki site
2008-05-25 08:30 < zocky> JanisB, maybe even possible, but certainly impractical
2008-05-25 08:30 < Filnik> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Trolling.png ← this is a cc-by-nc (its written here below: http://xkcd.com/351/ ) should it be deleted?
2008-05-25 08:30 < Filnik> *it's
2008-05-25 08:30 < zocky> JanisB, you can also open the database in the hex editor and change it directly without SQL
2008-05-25 08:30 < zocky> JanisB, but again, it's impractical
2008-05-25 08:31 < p858snake> Filnik: um... no its CC-BY-NC
2008-05-25 08:31 < Filnik> p858snake: where's the difference?
2008-05-25 08:31 < JanisB> IMHO, bots are making more load on DB(they consume another useless data like page fetching), than just SQL-queries with UPDATE/DELETE/whatever..
2008-05-25 08:32 < p858snake> CC = Creative Commons = Allows sharing
2008-05-25 08:32 < p858snake> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/
2008-05-25 08:32 < Filnik> p858snake: I've written "this is a cc-by-nc"
2008-05-25 08:32 < Filnik> p858snake: only in low case
2008-05-25 08:33 < p858snake> it dosn't matter which way you write it
2008-05-25 08:33 < Filnik> p858snake: and if I use that license it shows me a deletion-warning or something like that
2008-05-25 08:33 < Filnik> yes, indeed
2008-05-25 08:36 < Filnik> NotASpy: oh! I was looking for you :)
2008-05-25 08:36 < Filnik> NotASpy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Trolling.png ← this is a cc-by-nc (its written here below: http://xkcd.com/351/ ) should it be deleted?
2008-05-25 08:36 < Filnik> *it's
2008-05-25 08:36 < Filnik> (again -.-')
2008-05-25 08:38 < NotASpy> it should be fine as long as the fair use rationale is fine.
2008-05-25 08:39 < NotASpy> I'm not overly convinced that the articles it's used in couldn't survive without the image though.
2008-05-25 08:40 < NotASpy> it's looking rather decorative in my view.
2008-05-25 08:40 * Filnik nods
2008-05-25 08:41 < Werdna> NotASpy: I agree, but I bet you seven zillion dollars randall would let us use it.
2008-05-25 08:42 < NotASpy> I was just going to say, he's relicenced some of his work before, so he might in this case.
2008-05-25 08:42 < tombom> incidentally, what is going on in the first panel of that
2008-05-25 08:43 < NotASpy> it's one panel, on the left, it's a cable guy hijacking the feed into the house.
2008-05-25 08:43 < tombom> oh i see
2008-05-25 08:44 < Leslie_S> bleh
2008-05-25 08:45 < Leslie_S> im gonna go through like 4 drivers licenses this year
2008-05-25 08:45 < Leslie_S> maybe even 5
2008-05-25 08:46 < tombom> how on earth
2008-05-25 09:38 < SNORING> Hi and erm Brb
2008-05-25 09:58 < Leslie_S> is there any reason for me to buy a better guitar and amp for my second guitar? the first setup got stolen, the only thing i have left is the digital tuner (and that things worth like $50...what a moron)
2008-05-25 09:58 < nadis> hello
2008-05-25 09:58 < Leslie_S> i know i had some people in here bitching at me for buying a cheap one the first time.
2008-05-25 09:58 < Leslie_S> and this time i know that i like playing the guitar :)
2008-05-25 10:22 < Mm40> anybody need me to copyedit anything for them?
2008-05-25 10:27 < Rjd0060> Mm40: [[CAT:CE]] ;)
2008-05-25 10:27 < Mm40> =p
2008-05-25 10:54 < tty1> hey guys, i just had someone doing some "spam" although the way he went abou tit im not sure if i can repremand him on anything. Hebasically copy and pasted the same text to several talk pages not to mention several user talk pages (mind included). his message is somewhat "on topic" however due to the sheer qty of people receiving the message i was hopping there was something i could do.
2008-05-25 10:56 < Werdna> what was the message?
2008-05-25 10:57 < Werdna> tty1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CANVASS
2008-05-25 11:34 * Mm40 huggles Werdana
2008-05-25 11:34 * Mm40 huggles tty1
2008-05-25 11:34 < tombom> ugh
2008-05-25 11:43 < obamessiah> what does huggles mean?
2008-05-25 11:45 < Mm40> anti-vandal tool
2008-05-25 11:45 < Mm40> see [[WP:HUG]]
2008-05-25 11:46 < obamessiah_> hey
2008-05-25 11:46 < Mm40> wat?
2008-05-25 11:46 < obamessiah_> what happons in 10 years, when china uses 100% of the oil being pumped out of the ground?
2008-05-25 11:47 < Lycurgus> huggles is the interweb experssion of amity
2008-05-25 11:47 < obamessiah_> is that a hard question for you?
2008-05-25 11:47 < Lycurgus> no it's just a stupid question
2008-05-25 11:47 < Messedrocker> obamessiah_, we better have a replacement by then
2008-05-25 11:47 < Messedrocker> that's really all i can say
2008-05-25 11:48 < obamessiah_> well
2008-05-25 11:48 < Messedrocker> otherwise western civilization would decline
2008-05-25 11:48 < Messedrocker> and i mean that in every sense of the phrase
2008-05-25 11:48 < obamessiah_> nacy paolski does not want it
2008-05-25 11:48 < Lycurgus> well that settles it
2008-05-25 11:48 < Lycurgus> .
2008-05-25 11:48 < tombom> what on earth?
2008-05-25 11:49 < Lycurgus> (whoever the fuck nacy paolski is)
2008-05-25 11:49 < obamessiah_> she is 3rd in line for leader of USA
2008-05-25 11:49 < Lycurgus> geez
2008-05-25 11:49 < Lycurgus> us
2008-05-25 11:49 < obamessiah_> how did that happon?!?!
2008-05-25 11:49 < Messedrocker> obamessiah_, she was elected speaker of the house, that is how
2008-05-25 11:50 < obamessiah_> wow
2008-05-25 11:50 < Messedrocker> also, "Nancy Pelosi"
2008-05-25 11:50 < Lycurgus> no no no nacy paolski
2008-05-25 11:50 < obamessiah_> lol
2008-05-25 11:50 < obamessiah_> check yer speling nerd
2008-05-25 11:50 < Messedrocker> Nacy Paolski is the Speaker of the Polish House of Representatives
2008-05-25 11:50 < Messedrocker> That is different
2008-05-25 11:51 < Lycurgus> you know she looks decent for 67
2008-05-25 11:51 < tombom> (obamessiah_): nacy paolski does not want it
2008-05-25 11:52 < tombom> (obamessiah_): check yer speling nerd
2008-05-25 11:52 < tombom> uh huh
2008-05-25 11:52 < obamessiah_> i would plow that bitch only to send a message
2008-05-25 11:52 < obamessiah_> sorry i forgot what # i was in
2008-05-25 11:52 < Lycurgus> *68
2008-05-25 11:53 < Leslie_S> lol, my dads gonna meet some chick from the phillipines
2008-05-25 11:53 < Leslie_S> IN the phillipines.
2008-05-25 11:54 < Lycurgus> most white women (and men too for that matter) look a lot worse. She looks more like 50s or even 40s.
2008-05-25 11:54 < Lycurgus> are you a trucker now Leslie_S?
2008-05-25 11:54 < Messedrocker> wow, hard to believe she qualifies for social security
2008-05-25 11:56 < Lycurgus> she's rich, she probably doesn't collect it
2008-05-25 12:00 < Lycurgus> would look bad it she did. She is running against Cindy Sheehan.
2008-05-25 12:00 < Lycurgus> *if
2008-05-25 13:14 < Mm40> anyone here link any sports other then soccer?
2008-05-25 13:15 < Broooooooce> I link American foot ball.
2008-05-25 13:15 < Broooooooce> :P
2008-05-25 13:15 < tombom> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket
2008-05-25 13:15 < tombom> i hope this helps
2008-05-25 13:16 < Leslie_S> how should i look when i go to a truck driving company for orientation anyway....
2008-05-25 13:16 < Leslie_S> like a dirtyass truck driver?
2008-05-25 13:16 < Broooooooce> like you don't do meth.
2008-05-25 13:16 < Mm40> any American sport fans, join ##sports
2008-05-25 13:16 < Mm40> plz
2008-05-25 13:16 < Leslie_S> Broooooooce they already gave me a drug test.
2008-05-25 13:17 < Broooooooce> well, fine, then go in jittery.
2008-05-25 13:17 < Broooooooce> i mean, what the hell ;D
2008-05-25 13:17 < Broooooooce> I'd assume decent jeans or pants and a tucked in dress shirt
2008-05-25 13:17 < Broooooooce> Something comfortable to work in, but not toooo casual
2008-05-25 13:18 < Leslie_S> i dont wear dress shirts, ever.
2008-05-25 13:18 < Broooooooce> Okay.
2008-05-25 13:18 < Leslie_S> additionally, i do have to be around a truck, so nothing too nice
2008-05-25 13:18 < Broooooooce> Then... a shirt that doesn't look too casual.
2008-05-25 13:18 < Broooooooce> Right, I wasn't talking about a nice dress shirt, just a comfortable button up shirt
2008-05-25 13:18 < Broooooooce> practical and professional
2008-05-25 13:19 < Leslie_S> i dont wear those :P
2008-05-25 13:19 < Leslie_S> what about a long sleeve shirt?
2008-05-25 13:20 < Broooooooce> Well, it may be a bit hot for long sleeves
2008-05-25 13:20 < Leslie_S> i highly doubt it
2008-05-25 13:20 < Broooooooce> if your anywhere near me, in Arkansas (a huge trucking industry state)
2008-05-25 13:20 < Leslie_S> hmm
2008-05-25 13:20 < Leslie_S> Broooooooce its gonna be in iowa
2008-05-25 13:20 < Broooooooce> hmm, it's your call depending on weather, but once you say goodbye to the button up, I really don't think it matters much
2008-05-25 13:20 < Broooooooce> Go in what you feel comfortable in
2008-05-25 13:21 < Broooooooce> and let your personality stand out more than your appearance.
2008-05-25 13:21 < Broooooooce> I find that employers would rather have someone who knows what the yare doing than a clothes horse.
2008-05-25 13:21 < Broooooooce> I'm sure you'll do fine :D
2008-05-25 13:21 < Leslie_S> i cant let my personality stand out or i might not get the job :P
2008-05-25 13:21 < Broooooooce> And then, there is that.
2008-05-25 13:22 < Broooooooce> Perhaps let the tolerable and slightly normal and knowledgable side take the wheel today
2008-05-25 13:22 < Broooooooce> ?
2008-05-25 13:23 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-05-25 13:23 < Leslie_S> ok
2008-05-25 13:23 < Broooooooce> oooooh
2008-05-25 13:23 < Leslie_S> i have a not tolerable side?
2008-05-25 13:23 < Broooooooce> I have the best article I'm researching for DYK
2008-05-25 13:24 < Broooooooce> I dunno you that well yet, but if your anything like apparently every single other person on these channels, including myself, then of course you do.
2008-05-25 13:29 < Enok|Walker> I have an article that I've wanted to write for a while too
2008-05-25 13:31 < Broooooooce> This one is on the Gazette Building in Little Rock, AR, on the national register of historic places for housing the oldest continuous running paper west of the mississippi and eventually served as the 1992 headquarters of the clinton/gore campaign
2008-05-25 13:31 < Leslie_S> Broooooooce yes, i do
2008-05-25 13:36 < Enok|Walker> Mine is on a slime mold outbreak during the 1930s that decimated marine eelgrass and led to the extinction of a once-common limpet, except I have no idea what to call it :/
2008-05-25 13:36 < Broooooooce> The Great Slime Mold Outbreak of 1930
2008-05-25 13:36 < Broooooooce> It's an eye-catcher!
2008-05-25 13:36 < Enok|Walker> OK :p
2008-05-25 13:36 < Leslie_S> WTF? Some little kid who played harry potter got stabbed to death in a fight
2008-05-25 13:36 < Leslie_S> nice.
2008-05-25 13:36 < Broooooooce> one less brat
2008-05-25 13:37 < Broooooooce> ack!
2008-05-25 13:37 < Broooooooce> that was /b/ talking
2008-05-25 13:37 < Broooooooce> not me
2008-05-25 14:14 < Nisse> I have a friend that have made up a word ("Social Hacking") and put it on Wikipedia to get hits on his homepage. Is that OK?
2008-05-25 14:15 < dungodung> no
2008-05-25 14:15 < dungodung> no neologisms
2008-05-25 14:15 < dungodung> no autopromotion
2008-05-25 14:17 < Nisse> But maybe if enough ppl use the word it will become a real word? :P
2008-05-25 14:18 < uberpenguin> neologisms are not approved until they meet an arbitrary standard; use in Wired magazine
2008-05-25 14:23 < Sky2042> I sense sarcasm uberpenguin.
2008-05-25 14:24 < uberpenguin> I'm dead serious
2008-05-25 14:31 < Nisse> I tagged Social Hacking for Neologism
2008-05-25 14:42 < z3wb> hello
2008-05-25 14:42 < z3wb> i noticed that Encyclopedia Dramatica finally has a Wikipedia article
2008-05-25 14:42 < z3wb> this makes me happy
2008-05-25 14:43 < z3wb> keep up the good work
2008-05-25 14:43 < Enok|Walker> now we are famous
2008-05-25 14:46 * Mike_H pets Martinp23
2008-05-25 14:46 * Martinp23 wags tail
2008-05-25 14:46 < Mike_H> :D
2008-05-25 15:11 < Addshore> wtf >.<
2008-05-25 15:12 < tombom> ?
2008-05-25 16:16 < Messedrocker> RUCKABO
2008-05-25 16:16 < Messedrocker> ENJOY A GIANT SALAD
2008-05-25 16:16 < Messedrocker> KAAAAAAAA
2008-05-25 16:16 < Messedrocker> uTaH mOrOn
2008-05-25 16:17 < Cyrius> you know, I had been thinking it was too quiet in here
2008-05-25 16:17 < Cyrius> I was wrong
2008-05-25 16:17 < Messedrocker> ZIIIIII
2008-05-25 16:17 < Messedrocker> hi haley
2008-05-25 16:27 < isdead> Is there anyone know about the yellow things on the surface of strawberry?
2008-05-25 16:28 < Mm40> ummmm... not here
2008-05-25 16:31 < coolgyingman> Hello
2008-05-25 16:37 < Mm40> hi
2008-05-25 16:49 < Lycurgus> hmmm, it looks like [[Dick Martin]] shows Dan Rowan as Dick Martin.
2008-05-25 16:50 < Lycurgus> guess, that's why they have veropedia, scholarpedia, etc.
2008-05-25 16:50 < Messedrocker> dick martin
2008-05-25 16:50 < Messedrocker> that's a great name
2008-05-25 16:50 < Martinp23> it hilights me :(
2008-05-25 16:50 < Messedrocker> martin peeks
2008-05-25 16:50 < Messedrocker> dick martin peeks
2008-05-25 16:51 < Martinp23> so does that :p
2008-05-25 16:51 < Lycurgus> both thier careers were over before most wp editors were born apparently
2008-05-25 16:51 < Lycurgus> *essentially over
2008-05-25 16:52 < Lycurgus> sort of like you went to Stan Laurels article and there was a picture of Oliver Hardy
2008-05-25 16:58 < Mm40> Can someone PM me and help?
2008-05-25 17:00 < Mm40> I have a really big font size right now
2008-05-25 17:00 < geniice> And AA flamethrower? okey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagonda_flamethrower
2008-05-25 17:08 < bobesponja> what's the correct form "two approach" or "two approches"?
2008-05-25 17:11 < Messedrocker> two approaches
2008-05-25 17:27 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_thrower needs a video
2008-05-25 17:30 < Wildy_Medic> every article should have a video
2008-05-25 17:31 < geniice> 0.999999? I think problematical
2008-05-25 17:44 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Hay guises
2008-05-25 18:00 < NotASpy> Ziggy_Sawdust: joining a channel and asking to be unbanned, then leaving during the discussion isn't helpful. Anyway, at this stage, frankly, I don't see why we should pay any more attention to you. You've proven beyond any doubt that you're incapable of being a productive and sensible user of the channel.
2008-05-25 18:01 < Ziggy_Sawdust> NotASpy: The discussion was going nowhere, it was pretty obvious that none of the ops wanted to have a productive talk, so I left before things got ugly
2008-05-25 18:01 < Ziggy_Sawdust> it wasn't like "you're doing X and Y, please stop", it was more like "we don't like you, and you're lucky we don't just ban you for that, now shut up before I give you a wedgie"
2008-05-25 18:02 < Ziggy_Sawdust> so as to avoid getting said wedgie, I left
2008-05-25 18:02 < NotASpy> Ziggy_Sawdust: you're doing it again.
2008-05-25 18:02 < Ziggy_Sawdust> doing what?
2008-05-25 18:02 < Ziggy_Sawdust> I'd just rather be left alone
2008-05-25 18:02 < Neskaya> You obviously weren't giving anyone much of a chance, Ziggy_Sawdust.
2008-05-25 18:03 < Ziggy_Sawdust> What?
2008-05-25 18:03 * Neskaya was sitting there and watching.
2008-05-25 18:03 < Neskaya> You didn't look like you were really listening to what people said.
2008-05-25 18:03 < Ziggy_Sawdust> well
2008-05-25 18:03 < Ziggy_Sawdust> I've had dealings with Wikipedia chanops before
2008-05-25 18:03 < Neskaya> It was more like "I'm coming in here for my reason and I don't give a flying sh*t about what you say".
2008-05-25 18:03 < Neskaya> And?
2008-05-25 18:03 < Ziggy_Sawdust> and...
2008-05-25 18:04 < NotASpy> Ziggy_Sawdust: OK, list of problems for you to sort out: spamming, flooding, racist comments, incoherent ramblings, general disruption and so on.
2008-05-25 18:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> 4 users are flooding, I say what they're saying once and I get banned, whilst they don't
2008-05-25 18:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> NotASpy: racist comments?
2008-05-25 18:04 < NotASpy> the "n" word.
2008-05-25 18:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> in what context?
2008-05-25 18:05 < NotASpy> just randomly saying it.
2008-05-25 18:05 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ah
2008-05-25 18:06 < NotASpy> for which you were instantly kickbanned by Ryan
2008-05-25 18:06 < Neskaya> Frankly, there are very few uses which I can think of that being allowed.
2008-05-25 18:07 < Neskaya> And he's goon.
2008-05-25 18:07 < Neskaya> *gone.
2008-05-25 18:07 < ST47> For a very long time
2008-05-25 18:08 < ST47> How constant is his IP?maybe not
2008-05-25 18:08 < Neskaya> Probably not.
2008-05-25 18:08 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ?
2008-05-25 18:08 < Neskaya> Ziggy_Sawdust: Do you have a dynamic IP address?
2008-05-25 18:08 < Ziggy_Sawdust> I have a life, you know, I move from place to place throughout my life
2008-05-25 18:08 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Neskaya: er, no
2008-05-25 18:08 < Neskaya> Ziggy: No, I mean what is your internet provider?
2008-05-25 18:08 < Neskaya> Verizon, SBC-Yahoo, what?
2008-05-25 18:09 < ST47> it's cablespeed
2008-05-25 18:09 < Ziggy_Sawdust> er
2008-05-25 18:09 < ST47> look at his hostmask
2008-05-25 18:09 < Ziggy_Sawdust> this isn't my house
2008-05-25 18:09 < Neskaya> Lovely.
2008-05-25 18:09 < Ziggy_Sawdust> i.e. I don't live here
2008-05-25 18:10 < Ziggy_Sawdust> and I frequently access IRC through CGI/my house/the library/out-of-town libraries/other people's houses
2008-05-25 18:11 < Ziggy_Sawdust> In fact, I'd appreciate greatly if whomever has a "beef" with me bring it up in PM
2008-05-25 18:11 < ST47> Ziggy_Sawdust: please rejoin -ops
2008-05-25 18:11 < rory096> hmm
2008-05-25 18:11 < rory096> i just signed up for twitter
2008-05-25 18:11 < rory096> am i going to regret this?
2008-05-25 18:11 < NotASpy> nah, it's all under control
2008-05-25 18:12 < Ziggy_Sawdust> What's twitter
2008-05-25 18:13 < rory096> [[twitter]]
2008-05-25 18:13 < Aqwis> it's
2008-05-25 18:13 < Aqwis> the new facebook!
2008-05-25 18:13 < Aqwis> (lol)
2008-05-25 18:13 < cctoide> hmm, Phoenix is about to touch down
2008-05-25 18:13 < WBOSITG> Facebook is crap.
2008-05-25 18:13 < WBOSITG> Just thought I'd say.
2008-05-25 18:14 < Ziggy_Sawdust> MySpace < Facebook < having real friends
2008-05-25 18:14 < rory096> cctoide: not for another couple of hours
2008-05-25 18:14 < rory096> Ziggy_Sawdust: < wikipedia, amirite?
2008-05-25 18:14 < Ziggy_Sawdust> hahaha
2008-05-25 18:15 < cctoide> in a 10 month long mission, that's "about" :p
2008-05-25 18:15 < Ziggy_Sawdust> hell yeah
2008-05-25 18:15 < rory096> cctoide: true true
2008-05-25 18:15 < rory096> grr
2008-05-25 18:15 < rory096> i cant get nasa tv to go
2008-05-25 18:15 < rory096> i fucking hate mplayer
2008-05-25 18:18 < ST47> oh yeah, that phoenix is landing tonight
2008-05-25 18:18 < rory096> indeed it is
2008-05-25 18:18 < ST47> rory096: always have probelms with that on linux, even more so than other streams
2008-05-25 18:18 < rory096> ST47: yeah, i really dislike mplayer
2008-05-25 18:18 < rory096> it's honestly the worst part of using linux, imo
2008-05-25 18:18 < NotASpy> did the NASA bods get it right this time, no one guy measuring stuff in feet and inches and the rest measuring stuff in centimetres ?
2008-05-25 18:18 < ST47> Yep.
2008-05-25 18:18 < ST47> lol @ NotASpy
2008-05-25 18:18 < rory096> NotASpy: we'll see in an hour and a half, i guess :o
2008-05-25 18:18 < geniice> rory096 can't VLC do it?
2008-05-25 18:19 < ST47> That wasn't the MPL though, was it?
2008-05-25 18:19 < NotASpy> rory096: is there not a Real Player stream ?
2008-05-25 18:19 * ST47 forgets, but thinks that was a different failure
2008-05-25 18:19 < rory096> geniice: maybe, but stupid hardy only plays sound in certain programs for reasons i cant figure out
2008-05-25 18:19 < rory096> NotASpy: no realplayer on linux, that's also mplayer
2008-05-25 18:19 < rory096> ST47: it was, that's the joke
2008-05-25 18:19 < NotASpy> realplayer on Linux is quite decent, I've found.
2008-05-25 18:20 < rory096> wait, it exists?
2008-05-25 18:20 < rory096> is it standalone or a firefox plugin?
2008-05-25 18:20 < NotASpy> can be a bit of a bugger to install, though the last time I installed it (under Ubuntu) was quite easy.
2008-05-25 18:20 < NotASpy> rory096: standalone.
2008-05-25 18:20 < ST47> :)
2008-05-25 18:20 < rory096> damn, it probably wouldnt play sound then
2008-05-25 18:20 < rory096> this bug is seriously annoying, and nobody seems to have a solution
2008-05-25 18:20 < NotASpy> http://www.real.com/linux
2008-05-25 18:20 < Leslie_S> i hate life ;/
2008-05-25 18:21 < geniice> rory096 get someone to portMedia Player Classic to linux?
2008-05-25 18:21 < ST47> use windows?
2008-05-25 18:21 < ST47> ;)
2008-05-25 18:21 < rory096> geniice: that might take just a bit too long
2008-05-25 18:21 < Lycurgus> doesn't appear to be in love with your either
2008-05-25 18:21 < Lycurgus> *you
2008-05-25 18:22 < geniice> well in that case I can't suggest anything other than VLC because I haven't even heard of most of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_media_players
2008-05-25 18:23 < geniice> Although for playing to video at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmgesch%C3%BCtz_III#Operational_history I recomend a very fast internet connection
2008-05-25 18:23 < Lycurgus> there's no dearth of linux media players
2008-05-25 18:23 < Leslie_S> rofl, theres a dealership in missouri that is giving away free guns with cars
2008-05-25 18:23 < rory096> Leslie_S: and all but two people have taken that rather than the gas card or whatever the other one is
2008-05-25 18:24 < Leslie_S> yup
2008-05-25 18:24 < gwern> although interestingly there's not all that many codec projects
2008-05-25 18:24 < gwern> I suppose codecs are Hard
2008-05-25 18:24 < NotASpy> Lycurgus: yeah, but if they would rationalise to two or three media players, things could be much, much better.
2008-05-25 18:24 < Leslie_S> so if youre in butler missouri, dont honk at people
2008-05-25 18:24 < geniice> gwern legal issues
2008-05-25 18:24 < geniice> gwern codecs will get you into a mess with patent laws fast
2008-05-25 18:24 < gwern> NotASpy: iirc, there's basically 3 media players - vlc, mplayer, and the stuff gnome/ubuntu push (totem?)
2008-05-25 18:25 < Lycurgus> that's not the free world way. There's nothing to perform such a rationalization other than natural forces.
2008-05-25 18:25 < NotASpy> and in my experience, none of them work "out of the box" so to speak.
2008-05-25 18:25 < geniice> gwern for those who do wish to play with codecs there is Dirac and Theora
2008-05-25 18:25 < geniice> NotASpy Eh never had issues with VLC on windows
2008-05-25 18:25 < Lycurgus> unlike commercial software where marketing and other considerations are in play
2008-05-25 18:26 < gwern> really? I've always had a great experience with mplayer, and ubuntu's totem stuff is now smart enough to install codecs as it needs'em
2008-05-25 18:26 < NotASpy> VLC on Windows works fine, just not on Linux
2008-05-25 18:26 < geniice> lovely
2008-05-25 18:26 < NotASpy> I should play with Linux more, I guess.
2008-05-25 18:26 < Lycurgus> is vlc from france?
2008-05-25 18:26 < geniice> Lycurgus yes
2008-05-25 18:26 < rory096> NotASpy: it works great with linux, in my experience
2008-05-25 18:27 < Lycurgus> thought so, I used it on Mac a few years back.
2008-05-25 18:27 < geniice> Lycurgus originaly anyway as part of the videolan thing
2008-05-25 18:27 < geniice> Lycurgus I understand wikipedia's advice for viewing it's video files used to be for windows and macs "install VLC"
2008-05-25 18:28 < geniice> for linux it was if you can't play them find a better distro
2008-05-25 18:28 < Lycurgus> or get some skillz
2008-05-25 18:30 < NotASpy> I've tried some terrible distros right enough.
2008-05-25 18:30 < rory096> woot it works
2008-05-25 18:30 < rory096> thanks NotASpy
2008-05-25 18:30 < NotASpy> np
2008-05-25 18:31 < ST47> Stream is live now by the way :)
2008-05-25 18:32 < cctoide> hm, what's the lag from Mars again? 20 or 40 minutes?
2008-05-25 18:32 < rory096> cctoide: 15 minutes 20 seconds, iirc
2008-05-25 18:32 < cctoide> ah
2008-05-25 18:32 < Lycurgus> that's too little
2008-05-25 18:32 < Lycurgus> the moon maybe
2008-05-25 18:33 < Lycurgus> sorry I thought you were saying 15-20 seconds
2008-05-25 18:33 < rory096> Lycurgus: why? the moon is close, it's not even close to 15 light minutes away
2008-05-25 18:33 < rory096> ah
2008-05-25 18:34 < gwern> the moon is like 6 lightseconds away, iirc, and the sun 8 lightminutes
2008-05-25 18:34 < ST47> 3-20 light-minutes, depending on the time of year?
2008-05-25 18:35 * ST47 does math
2008-05-25 18:35 < Neskaya> Yay, I'm being productive.
2008-05-25 18:35 < Neskaya> ^^
2008-05-25 18:35 < gwern> I dont think our orbit is quite *that* elliptical
2008-05-25 18:35 < ST47> gwern: but sometimes it's right next to us and sometiems it's on the other side of the sun
2008-05-25 18:36 * ST47 isn't a huge astronomy nerd, but he knows that the sun is far away
2008-05-25 18:36 < gwern> sure. we eclipse the moon, the moon eclipses us someitmes
2008-05-25 18:36 < Lycurgus> my stepfather was convinced there were twins of the known planets somehow
2008-05-25 18:36 < gwern> but light is also really really fast
2008-05-25 18:36 < ST47> This is true
2008-05-25 18:37 < ST47> not fast enough
2008-05-25 18:37 < Lycurgus> i tried to explain to him how the later planets were discovered and how that ruled such a thing out. He would have none of it.
2008-05-25 18:38 < gwern> 'but da, if we weigh the planets gravitationally based on their distance and speed, we can get their masses, and compute the net gravitational attractions of their orbits, and the results are so precise that there just can't be other planets out there! we discovered all the twin planets already'
2008-05-25 18:39 < ST47> Yay! Math!
2008-05-25 18:40 < geniice> gwern nice try but not acutaly truee
2008-05-25 18:40 < geniice> gwern problem is you don't rule out L3 planets with that aproach
2008-05-25 18:41 < gwern> even if it is at a l3 point for sun/moon, would it not still exert unbalanced effects on the rest of the solar system?
2008-05-25 18:42 < gwern> or sun/earth or earth/moon
2008-05-25 18:42 < ST47> According to math, the current lag is 15 minutes, 20 seconds
2008-05-25 18:42 < ST47> Someone said that 10 minutes ago
2008-05-25 18:42 * ST47 is slow
2008-05-25 18:42 < geniice> gwern yes but tricky to pic up. L3 is not however stable so we know a planet can't exist there
2008-05-25 18:48 < Enok|Walker> What's an awesome organism that I can search for on Google Scholar for this bio extra credit
2008-05-25 18:48 < ST47> >.>
2008-05-25 18:49 < rory096> this guy is kind of creepy
2008-05-25 18:49 < Enok|Walker> Hmm just through random searching I have stumbled onto the topic of lysozyme expression in insects
2008-05-25 18:50 < geniice> Enok|Walker Hagfish