freenode #wikipedia

2008-05-22 21:41 < sphefx> thanks fo explaining it :)
2008-05-22 21:41 < Mark_Ryan> so the people on the split server(s) can't see the people on the intact servers, and vice versa
2008-05-22 21:41 < Mark_Ryan> eventually the connection is re-established and all the people can speak to one another again
2008-05-22 21:42 < sphefx> ah
2008-05-22 21:42 < sphefx> so thats why it says sphefx: attached to clarke.freenode.net “Fremont, California, US”?
2008-05-22 21:42 < Mark_Ryan> but the splitting away and back again is shown by way of people quitting and rejoining, on both sides
2008-05-22 21:42 < sphefx> because im connected to a certain server?
2008-05-22 21:42 < Mark_Ryan> yep
2008-05-22 21:42 < sphefx> oh ok
2008-05-22 21:42 < sphefx> thanks :)
2008-05-22 21:42 < Mark_Ryan> no problem
2008-05-22 21:43 < Mark_Ryan> Netsplits are probably the biggest mystery for anyone new to IRC
2008-05-22 21:43 < Mark_Ryan> I prefer banana splits though
2008-05-22 21:44 * quanticle prefers chocolate sundaes
2008-05-22 21:45 < sphefx> I second the choc sundae
2008-05-22 21:45 < sphefx> :p
2008-05-22 21:46 < Mark_Ryan> "In Australia banana splits often do not contain ice cream, but are made with lemon juice, icing sugar and multi-coloured sprinkles known as "hundreds and thousands".
2008-05-22 21:47 * Mark_Ryan officially calls 'bullshit' on that
2008-05-22 21:47 < Mark_Ryan> every banana split I've had has had ice cream and whipped cream
2008-05-22 21:47 < sphefx> lol
2008-05-22 21:47 < Luna-San> Hundreds and thousands?
2008-05-22 21:47 * Mike_H covers Mark_Ryan in whipped cream
2008-05-22 21:48 * Luna-San applies sprinkles
2008-05-22 21:48 < Mark_Ryan> hundreds and thousands are the multi-coloured tiny ball sprinkles
2008-05-22 21:48 < Mark_Ryan> hm, rain shower outside
2008-05-22 21:48 < Cyrius> a banana split requires the banana and the ice cream
2008-05-22 21:48 < Luna-San> Australians like their bananas with tiny balls. :o
2008-05-22 21:49 < Mike_H> Luna-San: damn it, you beat me to the dirty joke
2008-05-22 21:49 < Cyrius> what is a banana split with no ice cream?
2008-05-22 21:49 * Luna-San purrs
2008-05-22 21:49 < sphefx> lol
2008-05-22 21:49 < Mark_Ryan> Cyrius, apparently, a banana with icing sugar and sprinkles.
2008-05-22 21:49 < Mark_Ryan> who would eat that?
2008-05-22 21:49 * Mike_H ices Mark_Ryan's sugar.
2008-05-22 21:49 < Mark_Ryan> must be an Eastern States thing
2008-05-22 21:49 < Messedrocker> Mark_Ryan, we also have ice cream
2008-05-22 21:49 * Mark_Ryan slaps Mike_H for the dirty jokes
2008-05-22 21:49 < Luna-San> Might be nice if you're not in for a cold snack?
2008-05-22 21:49 < Messedrocker> ice cream, banana, syrup, whipped cream
2008-05-22 21:49 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: who said that was a joke? ;)
2008-05-22 21:50 < Ceiling_Cat> ZOMG MARK RYAN!
2008-05-22 21:50 < Messedrocker> and by "syrup" i mean "generic sugary liquid" and not necessarily maple syrup
2008-05-22 21:50 * Ceiling_Cat hops off the ceiling, onto Mark's face
2008-05-22 21:50 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles
2008-05-22 21:50 < Messedrocker> maybe they do that up in vermont who knows
2008-05-22 21:50 < Mark_Ryan> OMG I soooo can't believe you just said that
2008-05-22 21:50 < Messedrocker> ?
2008-05-22 21:50 * Mike_H touches Mark_Ryan's knee.
2008-05-22 21:50 < Luna-San> I've found I actually kinda prefer fake maple syrup over the real thing. =\
2008-05-22 21:51 < Mike_H> bony :/
2008-05-22 21:51 < Luna-San> Ditto strawberry milkshakes.
2008-05-22 21:51 < Messedrocker> Luna-San, I wasn't even referring to fake maple syrup
2008-05-22 21:51 < Luna-San> Oh, even lower on the totem pole? :p
2008-05-22 21:51 < Mark_Ryan> they usually use chocolate sauce here on banana splits, IIRC
2008-05-22 21:51 < Messedrocker> Luna-San, more like a completely different pole entirely
2008-05-22 21:51 < Mark_Ryan> Mike_H, my knee is bony, yes
2008-05-22 21:51 * Mike_H touches Luna-San's totem pole
2008-05-22 21:51 < Luna-San> I think chocolate is the standard, yeah
2008-05-22 21:51 * Luna-San gets restraining order against Mike_H :o
2008-05-22 21:51 < Messedrocker> i prefer strawberry shortcakes over banana splits
2008-05-22 21:52 < Mike_H> Luna-San: don't act like you didn't like it :o
2008-05-22 21:52 < Mark_Ryan> what's a shortcake? something like shortbread?
2008-05-22 21:52 < Luna-San> I would guess it's like a cupcake?
2008-05-22 21:52 < Mark_Ryan> oh, a shortcake is a scone
2008-05-22 21:52 * Luna-San nibbles on Messedrocker and Mike_H
2008-05-22 21:52 * Mike_H purrs
2008-05-22 21:53 * Ceiling_Cat watches Luna-San
2008-05-22 21:53 < Luna-San> Looks like an English muffin. o.o
2008-05-22 21:53 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - we got an email from Miss Vermont today. She said she was at a job interview and the interviewer asked her why her wikipedia articel didn't have pixxxxxxxxxxx
2008-05-22 21:53 * Luna-San sets up a mirror for Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-22 21:54 < Ceiling_Cat> So she went and emailed them to the photosubmission queue :)
2008-05-22 21:54 < Luna-San> XD
2008-05-22 21:54 < Pilotguy> lol
2008-05-22 21:54 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Hawt
2008-05-22 21:54 < Luna-San> Clearly our failure to deploy enough cc-by pararazzi implies some shortcoming on her part
2008-05-22 21:55 < Ceiling_Cat> Luna-San - actually, the photo submission queue is *just* what the situation calls for
2008-05-22 21:55 < Luna-San> *papa
2008-05-22 21:55 < Ceiling_Cat> I just wish more people followed the directions
2008-05-22 21:55 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: There are directions to the submission queue?
2008-05-22 21:55 < Luna-San> Yeah, that much is handy.
2008-05-22 21:55 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us/Photo_submission
2008-05-22 21:56 < Ceiling_Cat> I tried to keep that page short, easy to follow, and legally accurate
2008-05-22 21:56 < Ceiling_Cat> unfortunately, somehow half of all people don't follow those directions
2008-05-22 21:57 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: If you believe people will actually follow written directions, you have far too much faith in humanity.
2008-05-22 21:59 < quanticle> One advantage of using Mibbit IRC - you can use Firefox's built-in spellchecker.
2008-05-22 22:00 < Rjd|away> :O you can't use "advantage" and "mibbit" in the same sentance
2008-05-22 22:00 < Luna-San> They're just that in touch with the wiki spirit, they're applying IAR from the get-go
2008-05-22 22:02 < quanticle> Rjd|away: C'mon - AJAX isn't that bad...
2008-05-22 22:02 < quanticle> Luna-San: Indeed.
2008-05-22 22:02 < Rjd|away> If you have absolutely nothing else to use, I suppose ;)
2008-05-22 22:02 < Mark_Ryan> why would you use a spell checker in IRC, quanticle? mispelling things is part of the fun
2008-05-22 22:02 < quanticle> Rjd|away: On the contrary, my regular client is irssi. I'm just giving mibbit a try.
2008-05-22 22:03 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_4644ym7I8
2008-05-22 22:03 < Mike_H> :DD
2008-05-22 22:03 * Rjd|away likes his CZ
2008-05-22 22:03 < quanticle> Mark_Ryan: Heh. Call me a spelling Nazi, if you wish.
2008-05-22 22:03 < Rjd|away> Mark_Ryan: get my PM?
2008-05-22 22:03 < Mark_Ryan> Rjd|away, yes, but I only just noticed it
2008-05-22 22:03 < Rjd|away> :)
2008-05-22 22:04 < Mike_H> Match Game :D
2008-05-22 22:04 < quanticle> The New York Times, and a whole bunch of bloggers, lament American's move to make flying more costly and less convenient. We seem to have a grand national amnesia when it comes to carbon and flying. Cap and trade isn't going to do any good unless we do less of things like drive and fly
2008-05-22 22:04 < quanticle> Source: http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/tradeoffs_who_knew.php
2008-05-22 22:05 < Mark_Ryan> Mike_H, that microphone the host has is scary
2008-05-22 22:05 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: Yeah, they used to make fun of it
2008-05-22 22:06 < Mike_H> they used to call it a car antenna
2008-05-22 22:07 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: you know what's scarier?
2008-05-22 22:07 < Mike_H> Patty Duke Astin's FACE
2008-05-22 22:07 < Mike_H> the years of boozing were not kind to her.
2008-05-22 22:07 < Mike_H> In 1977 she was only like, 31.
2008-05-22 22:07 < Mike_H> she did not look it.
2008-05-22 22:07 < Mark_Ryan> wow
2008-05-22 22:12 < Rinn> Who was that?
2008-05-22 22:16 < StayTuned> Mike_H - Mark_Ryan - Digital Noise Control is now live on iTunes
2008-05-22 22:19 < Messedrocker> BoL is in perpetual spring break
2008-05-22 22:21 < Rinn> And it always takes eleven minutes.
2008-05-22 22:22 < Rinn> Which you'd imagine would become less astounding as time progressed, but it still apparently merits two "wow!"s.
2008-05-22 22:28 < FrancioseHobby> Rinn
2008-05-22 22:28 < Lucifer_Cat> is there a decent site which lets you create your own wiki for free?
2008-05-22 22:28 < Rinn> FrancioseHobby
2008-05-22 22:28 < FrancioseHobby> Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-22 22:28 < FrancioseHobby> Rinn
2008-05-22 22:28 < FrancioseHobby> Tin Tin
2008-05-22 22:28 < Lucifer_Cat> yes?
2008-05-22 22:28 < Rinn> FrancioseHobby
2008-05-22 22:29 < FrancioseHobby> Rinn
2008-05-22 22:29 < Rinn> FrancioseHobby
2008-05-22 22:29 < FrancioseHobby> Rinn
2008-05-22 22:29 < Rinn> FrancioseHobby
2008-05-22 22:29 < FrancioseHobby> Rinn
2008-05-22 22:29 < Lucifer_Cat> stop looping you two
2008-05-22 22:29 < FrancioseHobby> Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-22 22:29 < FrancioseHobby> :p
2008-05-22 22:29 < FrancioseHobby> Rinn
2008-05-22 22:29 < Lucifer_Cat> FrancioseHobby: you have something to say?
2008-05-22 22:29 < FrancioseHobby> Lucifer_Cat: Rinn
2008-05-22 22:29 < Lucifer_Cat> or do you want my banhammer to speak up?
2008-05-22 22:29 < Rinn> FrancioseHobby
2008-05-22 22:29 < FrancioseHobby> Rinn
2008-05-22 22:30 < Lucifer_Cat> Rinn: >_< cut it
2008-05-22 22:30 < FrancioseHobby> Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-22 22:30 * Rinn cuts FrancioseHobby
2008-05-22 22:30 < FrancioseHobby> Rinn
2008-05-22 22:30 < Lucifer_Cat> FrancioseHobby: you better speak up
2008-05-22 22:30 < FrancioseHobby> Lucifer_Cat: Rinn
2008-05-22 22:31 < sphefx> hello again
2008-05-22 22:31 < FrancioseHobby> sphefx
2008-05-22 22:31 < sphefx> hi FrancioseHobby
2008-05-22 22:31 < FrancioseHobby> sphefx
2008-05-22 22:31 < sphefx> hmm?
2008-05-22 22:31 < FrancioseHobby> sphefx: Rinn Tin Tin
2008-05-22 22:32 < FrancioseHobby> sphefx: Lucifer_Cat: Rinn Tin Tin
2008-05-22 22:32 < sphefx> o.O
2008-05-22 22:32 < FrancioseHobby> Rdsmith4
2008-05-22 22:32 < Rdsmith4> hello
2008-05-22 22:32 < FrancioseHobby> Rdsmith4: sphefx: Lucifer_Cat: Rinn Tin Tin
2008-05-22 22:32 < sphefx> FrancioseHobby: is there anything we can help you with?
2008-05-22 22:33 < sphefx> trolls
2008-05-22 22:33 < Lucifer_Cat> ugh, mibbitboy
2008-05-22 22:33 < sphefx> who?
2008-05-22 22:33 < sphefx> oh
2008-05-22 22:34 < sphefx> the guy who banned?
2008-05-22 22:34 < quanticle> Whoops.
2008-05-22 22:35 < sphefx> whats the difference?
2008-05-22 22:35 < Rinn> Well, one was unbanned and the other was banned, obviously.
2008-05-22 22:35 < sphefx> yes
2008-05-22 22:35 < sphefx> but exactly the same hostname
2008-05-22 22:35 < Lucifer_Cat> well i meant to do a *FrancioseHobby*
2008-05-22 22:35 < Gracenotes> FrancioseHobby = cpe-124-180-179-104.vic.bigpond.net.au
2008-05-22 22:36 < Lucifer_Cat> it didnt take the second *
2008-05-22 22:36 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: What was that for?
2008-05-22 22:36 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: just kept pinging nicks in a loop
2008-05-22 22:36 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Was he a bot or something?
2008-05-22 22:36 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: no
2008-05-22 22:36 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: can you finetune the ban please?
2008-05-22 22:37 < Lucifer_Cat> i just shud him up
2008-05-22 22:38 < Lucifer_Cat> woooo its teekl!!
2008-05-22 22:38 < Lucifer_Cat> wait who did you ban
2008-05-22 22:39 < quanticle> I fine tuned your ban for FrancoiseHobby
2008-05-22 22:39 < Lucifer_Cat> FrancioseHobby <i=7cb4b368@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c357d0ef07801edb>
2008-05-22 22:39 < Lucifer_Cat> and the part you wrote is under it
2008-05-22 22:39 < Lucifer_Cat> what that mean
2008-05-22 22:40 < quanticle> Ok. That's better. Now I have to remove that other ban
2008-05-22 22:40 < sphefx> im suprised he didnt change his nick and just spam again
2008-05-22 22:41 < quanticle> Ok, now to remove the other ban
2008-05-22 22:42 < quanticle> Oh, never mind. Krimpet got it
2008-05-22 22:42 < Rinn> There was a channel I used to frequent where the only op would only ban nicks.
2008-05-22 22:43 < quanticle> Brb
2008-05-22 22:45 < Lucifer_Cat> Rinn: nice channel
2008-05-22 22:45 < Lucifer_Cat> wtf, you now have a wikipedia cloak, teekl?
2008-05-22 22:45 < Warpath> hehe
2008-05-22 22:47 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I always had a Wikipedia cloak. Its just that you never saw it because I don't log off usually.
2008-05-22 22:59 < quanticle> Chirp
2008-05-22 23:00 < quanticle> SHIROIIIIIIII_NEKOOOOOO
2008-05-22 23:00 < Luna-San> Somebody change quanticle's batteries. He's chirping again.
2008-05-22 23:00 * quanticle huggles
2008-05-22 23:04 * Lucifer_Cat removes quanticle 's battries
2008-05-22 23:04 * Lucifer_Cat gives them to Mike_H .... there take these, jerk yourself out...
2008-05-22 23:05 < Mike_H> :o
2008-05-22 23:06 * quanticle 's batteries are soldered to the board, like an iPod Nano's
2008-05-22 23:06 < quanticle> Chirp
2008-05-22 23:07 * Luna-San sends quanticle back for a replacement
2008-05-22 23:09 < Lucifer_Cat> vega... i once knew a gal Wega
2008-05-22 23:10 < Lucifer_Cat> a weird name. esp for an indian.
2008-05-22 23:10 < VegaDark> lol
2008-05-22 23:12 < gwern> wega? or gal? or gal wega?
2008-05-22 23:13 < quanticle> gwern, all of the above
2008-05-22 23:17 < gwern> you confuzzle me! so be it
2008-05-22 23:18 < Lucifer_Cat> a galWega
2008-05-22 23:18 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat, Sounds like a name from a fantasy novel]
2008-05-22 23:18 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-05-22 23:27 < quanticle> "Show off your sexy feet with Pede!" <-- Heard in the background
2008-05-22 23:37 < quanticle> It's like the hardliners have an underpants gnome theory of expansion:
2008-05-22 23:37 < quanticle> 1) Build settlements
2008-05-22 23:37 < quanticle> 2) ???
2008-05-22 23:37 < quanticle> 3) Greater Israel
2008-05-22 23:37 < Cyrius> =)
2008-05-22 23:37 < quanticle> http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/the_underpants_gnome_theory_of.php
2008-05-22 23:38 < Broooooooce> greater israel, or greatest isreal?
2008-05-22 23:38 < quanticle> Broooooooce, Greater Jewland
2008-05-22 23:38 * Broooooooce remembers being warned earlier and shuts his mouth.
2008-05-22 23:39 < Messedrocker> "it will increasingly find itself becoming an apartheid-style country where a Jewish minority rules over a disenfranchised Arab and Muslim minority."
2008-05-22 23:39 < Broooooooce> 1) build settlements
2008-05-22 23:39 < Broooooooce> 2) ???
2008-05-22 23:40 < Cyrius> quanticle: I like the note at the end
2008-05-22 23:40 < Broooooooce> 3) profit?
2008-05-22 23:41 < quanticle> Broooooooce,
2008-05-22 23:41 < quanticle> 1. Build settlements
2008-05-22 23:41 < quanticle> 2. ???
2008-05-22 23:41 < quanticle> 3. Blockades
2008-05-22 23:41 < quanticle> 4. Tariffs
2008-05-22 23:41 < quanticle> 5. Profit
2008-05-22 23:41 < Enok|Walker> hi dudefaces
2008-05-22 23:41 < Gracenotes> it's amazing what having a minority friend can do for your character. "I have many a black friend... this means I am an understanding and ethically admirable individual."
2008-05-22 23:41 < Luna-San> Hm, interesting blog post
2008-05-22 23:42 < Gracenotes> we should create a point system
2008-05-22 23:42 < Luna-San> I speak with Gracenotes from time to time. This means I'm willing to put up with really annoying people. =\
2008-05-22 23:42 < Gracenotes> Black friend: 4 points, Jewish friend: 3 points, Gay friend: 10 points, etc.
2008-05-22 23:42 < Enok|Walker> I have 0 pts :(
2008-05-22 23:43 < Broooooooce> I thought that those were the points you got for running over them with your car?
2008-05-22 23:43 < Gracenotes> and yes, Gracenotes friend: 15 points
2008-05-22 23:43 < Broooooooce> (sorry, dad's joke, not mine)
2008-05-22 23:43 < Gracenotes> (>'.')>
2008-05-22 23:43 * Broooooooce = 10 points, well 5 . . .
2008-05-22 23:43 < Broooooooce> who needs a friend?
2008-05-22 23:44 < quanticle> Luna-San, mine?
2008-05-22 23:44 < quanticle> Er, the one that I put up?
2008-05-22 23:44 < Luna-San> Ya
2008-05-22 23:44 < Enok|Walker> rolf @ nes zappers on colbert report
2008-05-22 23:44 < quanticle> Luna-San - Megan McArdle is quite interesting, if you're of a moderately libertarian bent.
2008-05-22 23:44 < Luna-San> I try to avoid being specific about who I'm talking to. That way everybody can assume I'm talking to them, and bask in my glory.
2008-05-22 23:45 < Luna-San> quanticle: I'll probably dig through her stuff, later. >.> First I've seen of it.
2008-05-22 23:45 < Gracenotes> THERE IS A GLITCH IN THE MATRIX
2008-05-22 23:45 < quanticle> Luna-San: I'm quite the opposite. I tend to burn people to a crisp with concentrated beams of my brilliance.
2008-05-22 23:45 < Luna-San> That's why you're on IRC instead of blogging away, of course.
2008-05-22 23:45 * quanticle sends the agents after Gracenotes
2008-05-22 23:45 < Luna-San> In an IRC argument, the best soundbite winds.
2008-05-22 23:46 < Luna-San> And people who randomly insert d's into words FAIL.
2008-05-22 23:46 < Gracenotes> <walks in from left> meooow
2008-05-22 23:46 < Rinn> I have 0 points. :(
2008-05-22 23:46 < Gracenotes> <walks in from left> meooow
2008-05-22 23:46 < quanticle> Deja vu?
2008-05-22 23:46 < quanticle> O NOES!
2008-05-22 23:47 < quanticle> Teh Agents are coming
2008-05-22 23:47 < Rinn> Unless having a friend of the opposite sex gives you a point.
2008-05-22 23:47 < Gracenotes> It's gonna be a bright, bright! bright bright sunshiny day... lemme open these lovely red curtains
2008-05-22 23:47 < Luna-San> * ChanServ sets mode: +r. <Trinity> It means they changed something.
2008-05-22 23:47 < Gracenotes> omg bricks :<
2008-05-22 23:47 < Gracenotes> halp
2008-05-22 23:47 < Luna-San> (Though probably -r would be more funny for an invading army of goons...)
2008-05-22 23:48 < quanticle> Rinn: Well, on the Internet, having a girlfriend might just count as negative points.
2008-05-22 23:48 < quanticle> Gracenotes - run to the bathroom; you can punch through the wall and escape through the crawlspace
2008-05-22 23:49 < quanticle> Luna-San: +r?
2008-05-22 23:49 < Gracenotes> quanticle: download floor plans into my brain!
2008-05-22 23:49 < Gracenotes> and teach me how to make souffle while you're at it
2008-05-22 23:49 < Luna-San> Only identified users (as in, with nickserv) can talk. Or join. I always mix up +r and +R. One does joins, the other does talking.
2008-05-22 23:49 < Rjd0060> r for joins and R for speaking, IIRC
2008-05-22 23:50 < Gracenotes> yeah
2008-05-22 23:50 < Rjd0060> I mix them up sometimes too
2008-05-22 23:52 < quanticle> Gracenotes - done. I couldn't find a good souffle recipe, so I just gave you Kung pao chicken, instead.
2008-05-22 23:53 * Gracenotes runs to the bathroom and pulls a Catch-Me-If-You-Can-Final-Airplane-Scene-Escape
2008-05-22 23:55 < quanticle> http://www.zoitz.com/
2008-05-23 00:01 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: typically, how long are chess matches - in terms of moves
2008-05-23 00:02 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: depends on the level of play.
2008-05-23 00:02 < Lucifer_Cat> for noob games?
2008-05-23 00:04 < quanticle> Well, I usually make a stupid mistake long before this, but I figure this'll go on for a few more moves yet.
2008-05-23 00:06 < Gracenotes> I'm coding a collaborative real-time editor for his final project in programming... you know, it would probably be useful for Wikipedia stuffs
2008-05-23 00:06 < quanticle> Gracenotes: So you're basically making your own version of SubEthaEdit?
2008-05-23 00:06 < Gracenotes> yeah
2008-05-23 00:06 < Gracenotes> for a final project. in Java.
2008-05-23 00:07 < quanticle> Gracenotes: Java isn't so bad.
2008-05-23 00:07 < Gracenotes> I won't be able to use zeroconf, since external libraries are frowned upon.
2008-05-23 00:07 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: heh, usually, I am the one making stupid moves
2008-05-23 00:07 < Gracenotes> one of my friends is doing 2-player chess; another is doing a Risk simulator...
2008-05-23 00:07 < Lucifer_Cat> and i was asking in general
2008-05-23 00:08 < quanticle> Gracenotes: Risk simulator, eh?
2008-05-23 00:08 < Lucifer_Cat> Gracenotes: me and teekl are doing a risk simmie
2008-05-23 00:08 < Gracenotes> well, Risk itself in cybernetic form, much like the conquerclub
2008-05-23 00:08 * Lucifer_Cat gives teekl an evil grin
2008-05-23 00:09 < Gracenotes> I happen to like Java's libraries...
2008-05-23 00:09 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Oh. Well all the grandmaster level games I've seen have been over after 60 moves or so.
2008-05-23 00:09 < quanticle> Gracenotes: So, you're not allowed to use any libraries, or are you just restricted to the libraries that ship with the language?
2008-05-23 00:09 < Lucifer_Cat> Gracenotes: heh, in a rare rare rare incident, you are talking to 2 people who like java... AT THE SAME TIME
2008-05-23 00:10 < Gracenotes> quanticle: essentially. We shouldn't need more than that, really... it's just a pick-your-own-final-project-you-can-do-in-a-month
2008-05-23 00:10 < Gracenotes> Lucifer_Cat: I run into that situation from time to time in ##java
2008-05-23 00:10 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-05-23 00:10 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: move
2008-05-23 00:13 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat, moved.
2008-05-23 00:13 < Gracenotes> oh my god. xkcd today is filled with awesomeness. I was thinking about when Randall was going to do that eventually...
2008-05-23 00:13 < quanticle> Gracenotes, You think you can make a collaborative editor in a month?
2008-05-23 00:13 < quanticle> Gracenotes, You mean yesterday's XKCD?
2008-05-23 00:14 < Gracenotes> quanticle: well, there was a new one 12 minutes ago
2008-05-23 00:14 < Gracenotes> geohashing is pretty neat too
2008-05-23 00:14 < quanticle> Gracenotes: Oh, right. I forgot Randall was in Eastern Time...
2008-05-23 00:15 * Gracenotes is as well
2008-05-23 00:15 < quanticle> So, for me its technically tomorrow's xkcd
2008-05-23 00:15 < Gracenotes> quanticle: I should get it done in a month. basic features: highlighting other users' edits, showing other users' carets, (time-permitting) a chat system
2008-05-23 00:16 < gwern> I don't get the current xkcd
2008-05-23 00:16 < gwern> red spiders in the air? what
2008-05-23 00:16 < Gracenotes> THEY HAVE RETURNED
2008-05-23 00:16 < quanticle> Gracenotes: Its still pretty ambitious. GUI and networking projects always seem to take longer than anticipated.
2008-05-23 00:16 < anon32> I don't get why whoever draws xkcd couldn't possibly learn to actually *draw*
2008-05-23 00:17 < gwern> anon32: geez
2008-05-23 00:17 < quanticle> anon32: The simplicity is part of its charm.
2008-05-23 00:17 < gwern> saying that is like saying Why can't Ryan North use some *other* clip art?
2008-05-23 00:17 < quanticle> gwern: Ryan North?
2008-05-23 00:17 < Gracenotes> quanticle: I have a fair amount of background in networking and concurrency in Java
2008-05-23 00:17 < gwern> 'Why does Dinosaur Comics keep using the same art? I'm bored with it.'
2008-05-23 00:18 < Lucifer_Cat> anon32: unlike some of the other "comics" the humor here is in the concept and content, not the art.
2008-05-23 00:18 < Gracenotes> not so much GUI, but I should be able to handle it...
2008-05-23 00:18 < Gracenotes> the main problem I'll have to solve is that of latency.
2008-05-23 00:18 < quanticle> Gracenotes: Ah. Well then, I wish you the best of luck with your project.
2008-05-23 00:18 < Lucifer_Cat> Mike_H: you mean sdfag
2008-05-23 00:18 < anon32> <Lucifer_Cat> anon32: unlike some of the other "comics" the humor here is in the concept and content, not the art. <-- isn't that just admitting that he can't draw?
2008-05-23 00:18 < Gracenotes> I do hope I'll get it done in time, though... <_<
2008-05-23 00:18 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: that wasn't funny the last time you made the joke and it's not funny now, knock it off
2008-05-23 00:18 < Gracenotes> thanks
2008-05-23 00:18 < Lucifer_Cat> anon32: its saying that it does not matter. and yeah, he prolly can draw.
2008-05-23 00:19 < Lucifer_Cat> Mike_H: i made that joke before?? oh, sorry then. :S
2008-05-23 00:19 < Lucifer_Cat> cant*
2008-05-23 00:19 < gwern> some of his art isn't too shabby, but I doubt it'll ever be as beautiful as, say, _Copper_
2008-05-23 00:19 < Lucifer_Cat> whos copper
2008-05-23 00:19 < quanticle> anon32: The funny thing is that he probably *can* draw. I mean, he does use some pretty neat perspective tricks in some of his comics.
2008-05-23 00:20 < quanticle> gwern: Or Gunnerkrigg Court for that matter
2008-05-23 00:20 < Lucifer_Cat> Gunnerkrigg Court?
2008-05-23 00:20 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com
2008-05-23 00:20 * Lucifer_Cat huggles Mike_H ... im sowwwy
2008-05-23 00:21 < gwern> I read some of gunnerkrigg, but I don't remember being impressed by its art
2008-05-23 00:21 < gwern> unless that was the point?
2008-05-23 00:22 < quanticle> gwern: No. I rather like Gunnerkrigg Court's art style.
2008-05-23 00:22 * quanticle finds it rather charming
2008-05-23 00:23 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: or morgenthaler
2008-05-23 00:23 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip.aspx?id=d4f4edff-c81d-4ee8-a1e4-fdab127cd020
2008-05-23 00:23 < quanticle> This is my favorite page out of the entire set - http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=216
2008-05-23 00:23 < Lucifer_Cat> MIKE
2008-05-23 00:24 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle, Gracenotes http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php
2008-05-23 00:25 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: That's a good one too.
2008-05-23 00:25 * Lucifer_Cat has been in all 3 positions at one time or the other :D
2008-05-23 00:25 < gwern> quanticle: not impressed, as I said
2008-05-23 00:25 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: I used to read phd comics, but man, it's as repetitive as garfield
2008-05-23 00:26 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: well theres only so many years of jokes you can get out of a 5 year story ;)
2008-05-23 00:27 < Lucifer_Cat> most long running strips repeat... some do it more cooly than others
2008-05-23 00:27 < Lucifer_Cat> like dilbert is mostly the same thing, but his punch lines have a nice air of freshness time to time
2008-05-23 00:28 < quanticle> Heh. I like this one: http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1017
2008-05-23 00:28 < Lucifer_Cat> C&H was basically calvin getting in trouble, but ALWAYS doing something different... even his snowman gags were quite different
2008-05-23 00:29 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/error.htm
2008-05-23 00:29 < gwern> yeah. there were eerily similar C&H, but they were pretty rare
2008-05-23 00:30 < gwern> reading through the collected 3 vol edition, I'm surprised how consistently original calvin is in the details
2008-05-23 00:30 < Lucifer_Cat> iirc, the mostly similar C&Hs were his mathcapedes and dreaming in class ones.
2008-05-23 00:30 < gwern> truly one of the greats
2008-05-23 00:30 < gwern> krazy kat too
2008-05-23 00:30 < gwern> spaceman spiff I think was almost deliberately repetitive
2008-05-23 00:32 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: No way, man. You can't say that C&H was repetitive. I mean, the snowman gags, Spaceman Spiff, throwing snowballs at Suzie, riding the wagon down the steep hill...
2008-05-23 00:34 < Broooooooce> If I find a user that is renaming Civil war as the "war of northern aggression" in articles
2008-05-23 00:34 < Broooooooce> what should I do?
2008-05-23 00:34 < quanticle> Broooooooce, warn him, and the ban if he doesn't listen
2008-05-23 00:34 < quanticle> *then
2008-05-23 00:34 < Broooooooce> Yeah, I can't ban.
2008-05-23 00:34 < quanticle> Broooooooce, call an admin?
2008-05-23 00:34 < Broooooooce> HEY IS THERE AN ADMIN AROUND HERE?
2008-05-23 00:35 * Broooooooce ahem
2008-05-23 00:35 < quanticle> Seriously, that's not even an original troll these days...
2008-05-23 00:35 < Broooooooce> this guy isactually well established
2008-05-23 00:35 < Broooooooce> I caught onto it because he ran my favorite wikipedian off
2008-05-23 00:35 < Broooooooce> IvoShandor.
2008-05-23 00:35 < gwern> silly southerners
2008-05-23 00:35 < gwern> can't let the civil war go
2008-05-23 00:35 < Broooooooce> I'm southern
2008-05-23 00:35 < Broooooooce> thankyou, but it's called the civil war
2008-05-23 00:35 < Broooooooce> in 99% of literature on the planet
2008-05-23 00:36 < quanticle> gwern: Yeah. No kidding. Holy crap, its been nearly a hundred and fifty years, guys. Let it go.
2008-05-23 00:38 < gwern> 99% is probably an underestimate
2008-05-23 00:38 < Wildy_Medic> question...
2008-05-23 00:39 < gwern> the answer is no
2008-05-23 00:39 < quanticle> Wildy_Medic: Ask away.
2008-05-23 00:39 < Wildy_Medic> lol
2008-05-23 00:39 < gwern> thank you, please come again!
2008-05-23 00:39 < Wildy_Medic> Is this notable enough, would it pass an AFD? [[Summit Fire]]
2008-05-23 00:39 < quanticle> Wildy_Medic: Don't expect the answers to make sense, though.
2008-05-23 00:40 < quanticle> Wildy_Medic: Probably.
2008-05-23 00:40 < gwern> Wildy_Medic: depends on how AFD is feeling that day
2008-05-23 00:40 * quanticle can never tell with these things.
2008-05-23 00:40 < gwern> one could easily argue that that coverage is not really of the fire
2008-05-23 00:40 < gwern> and doesn't cover it as a discrete event in and of itself
2008-05-23 00:41 < gwern> but at even odds, I'd take the bet it'd be kept, anyway
2008-05-23 00:41 < Enok|Walker> i am too tense to work on tihs article how i fix that :(
2008-05-23 00:42 < gwern> Enok|Walker: drugs
2008-05-23 00:42 < quanticle> Enok|Walker: Apparently you're too tense to type coherently as well.
2008-05-23 00:42 < gwern> depressants, specifically. barbiturates, alcohol, 'ludes, etc
2008-05-23 00:42 < Netsniper> Enok|Walker: wikibreak
2008-05-23 00:42 * quanticle likes gwern's idea
2008-05-23 00:43 < Netsniper> oh, i'm not giving sarcastic replies ... maybe i need a wikibreak as well :)
2008-05-23 00:43 < Gracenotes> I can't get the mudkip meme out of my head. help :(
2008-05-23 00:44 < gwern> Gracenotes: so you liek them?
2008-05-23 00:44 < quanticle> Gracenotes: You mean "HALP! I HAZ MUDKIPS IN MY BRANE"
2008-05-23 00:44 < quanticle> gwern: There is a rumor on the internets to that effect, yes
2008-05-23 00:44 < Gracenotes> ahem
2008-05-23 00:45 < Gracenotes> I LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVE MUDKIPS
2008-05-23 00:45 < quanticle> Gracenotes: Go to ICanHasCheezburger, and see if you can replace those mudkips with lolcats
2008-05-23 00:45 < Netsniper> that'll be neato when medical science is advanced enough to be able to exterminate mental pests like mudkips
2008-05-23 00:46 < quanticle> Netsniper: Forget mudkips, they'll be able to get rid of those annoying songs that get stuck in your head too.
2008-05-23 00:46 < Netsniper> yup
2008-05-23 00:46 < Netsniper> and memories of that one time at band camp...
2008-05-23 00:46 < Gracenotes> I gainsay not the assertion that I have a favorable disposition towards representative individuals of the mudkips species.
2008-05-23 00:46 < gwern> Gracenotes: if lolcats can't do it, try some faildogs
2008-05-23 00:46 < gwern> and if those don
2008-05-23 00:46 < gwern> t do it, go to \b\ until you hurt no ore
2008-05-23 00:47 < gwern> *mo
2008-05-23 00:47 < Gracenotes> gwern: \b\? this isn't Windows :)
2008-05-23 00:48 < quanticle> gwern: Its /b/, no?
2008-05-23 00:48 < quanticle> As in, http://4chan.org/b/
2008-05-23 00:48 < gwern> whatev!
2008-05-23 00:49 < quanticle> gwern: Though, if you're suggesting /b/ as a cure to mudkips, its rather a bit like suggesting amputation for a papercut.
2008-05-23 00:49 < gwern> quanticle: I go by results! afterwards, THERE IS NO MORE PROBLEM
2008-05-23 00:49 < gwern> quanticle: that link no work
2008-05-23 00:50 < quanticle> gwern: I know the link doesn't work. It hasn't worked for a long time now, but /b/ is still /b/
2008-05-23 00:52 < quanticle> Anyway...
2008-05-23 00:52 * quanticle out
2008-05-23 00:52 < gwern> if you say so
2008-05-23 01:00 < Enok|Walker> wat
2008-05-23 01:00 * Ceiling_Cat is tempted to email Fred Brooks asking for pixxxxxx for his article
2008-05-23 01:00 < Ceiling_Cat> he's 77, and could keel over dead any day
2008-05-23 01:00 < Ceiling_Cat> he's one of the few septugenarians who has email too
2008-05-23 01:01 < Messedrocker> my grandfather is an octogenarian and he has email
2008-05-23 01:01 < Ceiling_Cat> in the future, it will be unheard of for people not to have email, but for the time being, it's almost expected of any old person
2008-05-23 01:02 < Alkivar> wow /b/ is stupider than usual: http://img.4chan.org/b/res/68950762.html#68951845
2008-05-23 01:11 < Barak4u> Can anyone help me out?
2008-05-23 01:11 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: are you sure email will not be replaced by a cellphone analog like texting?
2008-05-23 01:12 < Ceiling_Cat> Gwern - I find texting to be a oddity
2008-05-23 01:12 < gwern> I would be wary of making any long-term predictions that discount the impact of mobile devices. as gibson says, if you want to see the future, look at japan
2008-05-23 01:12 < Ceiling_Cat> It takes longer to text someone a message than it does to call them and tell them
2008-05-23 01:12 < Ceiling_Cat> (longer or roughly the same amount of time)
2008-05-23 01:13 < Ceiling_Cat> email, on the other hand, will never be replaced, because it allows people to sit down and develop their thoughts in a more organized fashion
2008-05-23 01:13 < Ceiling_Cat> so for that reason, no, I do not think phone/texting will replace it
2008-05-23 01:14 < Ceiling_Cat> Hrmmmm
2008-05-23 01:14 * Ceiling_Cat makes a mental note that Michael Flynn also has email
2008-05-23 01:14 < Ceiling_Cat> He's another computer pioneer who could keel over any second
2008-05-23 01:14 < gwern> you're quite ghoulish
2008-05-23 01:15 < gwern> although I applaud the occasional results
2008-05-23 01:15 < Ceiling_Cat> gwern - I'm realistic
2008-05-23 01:16 < Ceiling_Cat> I'm also *extremely* pissed that that astrophysicist died a few months ago before we could get his pic
2008-05-23 01:16 < Ceiling_Cat> whathisface
2008-05-23 01:16 < Messedrocker> [01:15] <Messedrocker> how do i shot web?
2008-05-23 01:16 < Messedrocker> [01:15] <####> i shot the web and the web won
2008-05-23 01:17 < Ceiling_Cat> student of George Gamow
2008-05-23 01:18 < gwern> forget it, Messedrocker. it's WWWtown
2008-05-23 01:30 < Broooooooce> could someone here help me with a third opinion?
2008-05-23 01:31 < Alkivar> sure
2008-05-23 01:31 < Alkivar> opinion on what?
2008-05-23 01:31 < Messedrocker> Alkivar, http://img.4chan.org/b/res/68948980.html#68950114
2008-05-23 01:31 < Alkivar> Messedrocker: 404
2008-05-23 01:32 < Broooooooce> in accordance with WP:Third Opinion, I am seeking someone elses input on the intentional use of The War of Northern Aggression by a user as a substitute for American Civil War. I believe this is POV. see talk at the bottom of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bedford#Question
2008-05-23 01:32 < Messedrocker> =(
2008-05-23 01:32 < Alkivar> Messedrocker: what was it?
2008-05-23 01:33 < Messedrocker> Alkivar, a bunch of comics all following the same theme of an object being presented, said object being crushed, and then three zoom-in shots of the guy who crushed the object
2008-05-23 01:33 < Alkivar> Messedrocker: http://img.4chan.org/b/res/68956129.html
2008-05-23 01:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Simon Fowler's 2007 Guide to Military History on the Internet named Wikipedia the #1 website on the Interwebs :)
2008-05-23 01:43 < Ceiling_Cat> and they cited our milhist project by name
2008-05-23 01:44 < Enok|Walker> rad
2008-05-23 01:44 < Lucifer_Cat> bad
2008-05-23 01:44 < Enok|Walker> :(
2008-05-23 01:45 < Lucifer_Cat> not wiki.
2008-05-23 01:45 < Gracenotes> http://csagov.org/ - Welcome to the official website of the Government of the Confederate States of America established in 1861.
2008-05-23 01:45 < Lucifer_Cat> im not talkin bout wiki
2008-05-23 01:46 < Lucifer_Cat> Gracenotes: epic
2008-05-23 01:46 < Gracenotes> see also the FAQ
2008-05-23 01:46 < bumm13> lol
2008-05-23 01:46 < Lucifer_Cat> i just realized that i've never been out of csa except for 36 hours
2008-05-23 01:50 < Lucifer_Cat> wow, thats a chatkill
2008-05-23 01:50 < Ceiling_Cat> Jesse Helms has [[Multi-infarct dementia]]
2008-05-23 01:50 < Lucifer_Cat> y'all them copperheads eh
2008-05-23 01:50 < Ceiling_Cat> Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person
2008-05-23 01:50 < Lucifer_Cat> whoz jizzy helms
2008-05-23 01:51 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - a southern republican. Also a huuuuuuuuuuge dick
2008-05-23 01:51 < Ceiling_Cat> if you look up racism in the dictionary, you'd see a picture of him
2008-05-23 01:51 < Lucifer_Cat> dont be redundant Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-23 01:52 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.racematters.org/jessehelmswhiteracist.htm
2008-05-23 01:52 < Gracenotes> Ceiling_Cat: he's white, then, I assume?
2008-05-23 01:52 < Ceiling_Cat> There are plenty of powerful conservatives in government. A few, such as Don Rumsfeld and Henry Hyde, have been around as long as Helms and have their own significant roles in 20th century political history. What really sets Jesse Helms apart is that he is the last prominent unabashed white racist politician in this country -- a title that one hopes will now be permanently retired.
2008-05-23 01:52 < Ceiling_Cat> ironically, henry hyde is now dead and Don Rumsfeld is disgraced
2008-05-23 01:52 < Ceiling_Cat> (and the latter is almost certainly a war criminal)
2008-05-23 01:52 < bumm13> what about Robert Byrd?
2008-05-23 01:53 < Ceiling_Cat> bumm13 - robert byrd was a member of the kkk, but he's done a lot for civil rights since then
2008-05-23 01:53 < bumm13> what a guy :P
2008-05-23 01:53 < Ceiling_Cat> the same cannot be said about Jesse Helms
2008-05-23 01:53 < Lucifer_Cat> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Chess
2008-05-23 01:54 < Ceiling_Cat> bumm13 - do you know who Hugo Black was?
2008-05-23 01:54 < bumm13> no, I don't
2008-05-23 01:54 < Lucifer_Cat> someone replaced all "pawn" with "pwn"
2008-05-23 01:54 < Messedrocker> PWN IS PRONOUNCED POON
2008-05-23 01:54 * bumm13 sits on Messedrocker
2008-05-23 01:54 < Ceiling_Cat> he was a Supreme Court justice. In his youth, he was a member of hte kkk. Later, he helped write some of the most important civil rights legislation of the 50s, 60s, and 70s
2008-05-23 01:55 < Ceiling_Cat> Carl Sagan used to tell a joke about him
2008-05-23 01:55 < Ceiling_Cat> The joke was - in his youth, he wore white robes and scared black people; when he was an adult, he wore black robes and scared white people
2008-05-23 01:55 < bumm13> nice...
2008-05-23 01:56 < Ceiling_Cat> LULZ
2008-05-23 01:56 < Ceiling_Cat> The fraternity Captain Hero starts is called F?? (Phi Alpha Gimel). The gimel is actually a Hebrew letter, not a Greek letter, as one would expect from a Greek fraternity, providing an example of another Jewish in-joke in the series. Transliterated into English, F?? would be "fag," a derogatory American slang term for a gay man.
2008-05-23 01:56 * Ceiling_Cat didn't get that
2008-05-23 01:57 < bumm13> wouldn't that be "phag"?
2008-05-23 01:57 < Lucifer_Cat> "Pwn - Symbolic of Mexican immigrants and Gypsies, these Pwns serve as good cannonfodder to throw at the enemy so your really useful pieces don't get hurt. Then one day a pwn may grow up to be a better piece if it can make it to the other side of the board, and obtain his or her Green Card."
2008-05-23 01:57 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-23 01:58 < Messedrocker> bumm13, Phi is analogous to F
2008-05-23 01:58 < Messedrocker> and not Ph
2008-05-23 01:58 < bumm13> in what sense?
2008-05-23 01:58 < Ceiling_Cat> Phi (uppercase F, lowercase f or ?), pronounced [fi] in modern Greek and as [fa?] in English, is the 21st letter of the Greek alphabet. In modern Greek, it represents [f], a voiceless labiodental fricative.
2008-05-23 01:58 < Messedrocker> Phi's equivalent in Latin alphabet would be F
2008-05-23 01:59 < Messedrocker> just as how Omega would be W and Alpha would be A
2008-05-23 01:59 < bumm13> is English "ph" supposed to be a different sound, then?
2008-05-23 01:59 < Messedrocker> ph is f is phi i suppose
2008-05-23 02:00 < bumm13> I phail to see the phucking difference ;p
2008-05-23 02:00 < Ceiling_Cat> goodnight kids!
2008-05-23 02:00 * Ceiling_Cat waves
2008-05-23 02:00 < Lucifer_Cat> night
2008-05-23 02:02 < Lucifer_Cat> As a child, young Harry would watch his father about his work and dream of one day vaporizing millions of foreigners in an orgiastic deathblast of atomic hell-fire. However, the technology for this did not yet exist, so he was reduced to flicking matches at hobos.
2008-05-23 02:05 < Alkivar> are you this cool: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1211521996967.jpg
2008-05-23 02:14 < Lucifer_Cat> file not found
2008-05-23 02:15 < Gracenotes> /b/ moves that fast <_<
2008-05-23 02:16 < Alkivar> damn
2008-05-23 02:16 < Alkivar> ok i just pulled a totally wtf Wikipedia degrees out
2008-05-23 02:16 < Alkivar> restriction was no countries or categories
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> Nelson Mandella to M:TG
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandella
2008-05-23 02:17 < Gracenotes> no dates either?
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> yep
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> no dates
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> and no languages
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne%2C_Princess_Royal
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Save_the_Children
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_games
2008-05-23 02:17 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_game
2008-05-23 02:18 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectible_card_game
2008-05-23 02:18 < Alkivar> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering
2008-05-23 02:18 < Alkivar> TADA
2008-05-23 02:18 < Rinn> Educational games goes straight to sex in my mind. :(
2008-05-23 02:18 < Alkivar> and i'm sure theres a shorter route than that... but i couldnt find it
2008-05-23 02:18 < bumm13> :x
2008-05-23 02:26 < Lucifer_Cat> LALEENA!!!
2008-05-23 02:26 < Lucifer_Cat> wassup
2008-05-23 02:27 < Lucifer_Cat> feeling better?
2008-05-23 02:28 < Lucifer_Cat> Lady_Aleena_alt: im talking to you :P
2008-05-23 02:30 < Lucifer_Cat> Lady_Aleena isnt talking :(
2008-05-23 02:37 < Mike_H> :/
2008-05-23 02:39 < bumm13> hiya Mike
2008-05-23 02:39 < Mike_H> hi
2008-05-23 02:55 < Lucifer_Cat> MIKE!
2008-05-23 02:55 < Lucifer_Cat> still pissed?
2008-05-23 02:55 < Mike_H> what?
2008-05-23 02:55 < Lucifer_Cat> you didnt like my joke
2008-05-23 02:55 < Mike_H> yeah, no, I didn't
2008-05-23 02:56 < Lucifer_Cat> i didnt know i'd made that one before
2008-05-23 02:56 < Lucifer_Cat> but then, my memory leaks more than FF2
2008-05-23 03:21 < Alkivar> is tor always as slow as a 56k dialup line?
2008-05-23 03:26 < bumm13> hiya AdamBishop
2008-05-23 03:27 < AdamBishop> hey
2008-05-23 03:43 < ggreer> Alkivar: yes. even if tor nodes weren't overloaded you can't do much to deal with the extra latency
2008-05-23 03:44 < ggreer> I guess you could pre-fetch links on pages, but if everyone did that tor would be even slower
2008-05-23 03:54 * Lycurgus has thought about bringing up his own tor.
2008-05-23 03:56 < bumm13> hiya ggreer
2008-05-23 03:56 < Lycurgus> (and the comment about 56K doesn't really make sense to me)
2008-05-23 03:57 < Lycurgus> (unless the complainer has a 56K connection)
2008-05-23 03:57 < ggreer> he's saying tor is so slow that it makes him feel like he's on a 56k
2008-05-23 03:58 < Lycurgus> feeeeelings, oh feelings
2008-05-23 03:58 < Lycurgus> <- can't carry a tune.
2008-05-23 03:59 < ggreer> tor is as slow as 56k. it takes forever to download anything
2008-05-23 03:59 < Luna-San> It might be faster if you just used your own connection. :o
2008-05-23 03:59 < Lycurgus> maybe cause it's optimized for irc?
2008-05-23 04:00 < ggreer> it's not. it's just slow
2008-05-23 04:00 < Lycurgus> and not intended as a file server
2008-05-23 04:00 < ggreer> what? tor is a way to anonymize your actions online
2008-05-23 04:01 < ggreer> you can make any tcp connection through tor, but it's going to be a lot slower than if you connected directly
2008-05-23 04:01 < ggreer> tor isn't optimized for irc either. irc is just a low bandwidth protocol
2008-05-23 04:23 < Lady_Aleena> If one were to be splitting a list alphabetically with the first page being numbered items through H, what would be the best name for it?
2008-05-23 04:26 < AdamBishop> page, 1-H
2008-05-23 04:26 < Lady_Aleena> With or without the comma?
2008-05-23 04:28 < Lady_Aleena> Examples: List of things 1-H -or- List of things, 1-H
2008-05-23 04:31 < AdamBishop> hmm, I would say with
2008-05-23 04:32 < Fire> hi AdamBishop
2008-05-23 04:34 < Lady_Aleena> Thanks, Adam.
2008-05-23 04:34 < AdamBishop> hi Fire
2008-05-23 04:34 < Fire> Nice to read your name, Adam, remember you back in 2004.