freenode #wikipedia

2008-05-21 21:47 < Ziggy_Sawdust> type faster
2008-05-21 21:47 < THE_INTERNET> i have no hands i am a vast network of millions of servers
2008-05-21 21:47 < Warpath> behave you both !! >:(
2008-05-21 21:48 < THE_INTERNET> Warpath what are you going to do? i am the internet
2008-05-21 21:48 < Warpath> nop you are the THE_INTERNET_TROLL ;)
2008-05-21 21:50 < THE_INTERNET> Warpath that's it, now you've done it. I'm going to accuse you of something you are innocent of on your talk page, and if you disagree I will ban you
2008-05-21 21:50 < Warpath> thanks :)
2008-05-21 21:50 < THE_INTERNET> np just doing my job
2008-05-21 21:50 < Ziggy_Sawdust> erm
2008-05-21 21:51 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Are you that IP that I just reported to AIV?
2008-05-21 21:51 < THE_INTERNET> no, I am 4,294,967,296 IP addresses
2008-05-21 21:52 < THE_INTERNET> so actually yes in a way I am but not only that one
2008-05-21 21:52 * Mahlzahn wonders what THE_INTERNET has been smoking
2008-05-21 21:52 < Ziggy_Sawdust> [21:51] <THE_INTERNET> no, I am epic failure
2008-05-21 21:52 < Mahlzahn> cat5 no doubt.
2008-05-21 21:52 < Ziggy_Sawdust> fixed
2008-05-21 21:53 < Gracenotes> THE_INTERNET: but but but IPv6
2008-05-21 21:53 < THE_INTERNET> oh you mean junior?
2008-05-21 21:53 < Mahlzahn> yes, yes, yes, obsolete
2008-05-21 21:53 < Gracenotes> do you not identify with the IP system of the future?
2008-05-21 21:53 < THE_INTERNET> he's not ready yet
2008-05-21 21:53 < Ziggy_Sawdust> THE_INTERNET: Are you serious business?
2008-05-21 21:53 < THE_INTERNET> Gracenotes well, he doesn't have many friends
2008-05-21 21:54 < THE_INTERNET> Ziggy_Sawdust of course I am serious business
2008-05-21 21:54 < Gracenotes> China's his friend
2008-05-21 21:54 < Gracenotes> or will be. don't you feel so left out?
2008-05-21 21:54 < THE_INTERNET> sure, rebellious youth hanging around those that dislike me
2008-05-21 21:55 * Gracenotes creates his own intranet to spite THE_INTERNET
2008-05-21 21:55 < Mahlzahn> THE_INTERNET: I suspect you aren't the internet, which is 8 bit, no stop or parity bits. You on the other hand are only upper case.
2008-05-21 21:55 < THE_INTERNET> Gracenotes do i need to bring up the fursuit fandom forums you have been frequenting?
2008-05-21 21:56 < Gracenotes> omg slander
2008-05-21 21:56 < Gracenotes> I shall take you the Internet Court sir
2008-05-21 21:56 < THE_INTERNET> Mahlzahn just because I am not using the other bits doesn't mean I can't, thank you
2008-05-21 21:56 < bbot> You'll need to retain an Attorney At Lol.
2008-05-21 21:56 < Mahlzahn> Gracenotes: have no fear. The_internet has only crossed wires
2008-05-21 21:56 < bbot> Here's my card.
2008-05-21 21:57 < THE_INTERNET> Gracenotes, Judge Edward D. Lollington will be here shortly
2008-05-21 21:57 < gwern> bbot: we only want on in Trenton, New Jersey. is your firm based there/willing to travel to that jurisdiction?
2008-05-21 21:57 < Gracenotes> bbot: my lolsuit is serious business, you'll understand
2008-05-21 21:58 < JamieS93> THE_INTERNET <n=sxgbs@CPE-24-31-243-62.kc.res.rr.com> “sdsd”
2008-05-21 21:58 < bbot> Gracenotes: The internet is always serious business, sir.
2008-05-21 21:58 < JamieS93> THE_INTERNET: member of #wikipedia
2008-05-21 21:58 < JamieS93> THE_INTERNET: attached to irc.freenode.net “http://freenode.net/”
2008-05-21 21:58 < JamieS93> End of WHOIS information for THE_INTERNET
2008-05-21 21:59 < Gracenotes> **>._.<**
2008-05-21 21:59 < JamieS93> ;)
2008-05-21 22:00 < THE_INTERNET> JamieS93 your hacking shall not be tolerated!
2008-05-21 22:01 < chzz> stop SHOUTING, already
2008-05-21 22:02 < THE_INTERNET> chzz hush, I know about your pretending to know MySpace people from high school and asking them to add you
2008-05-21 22:02 < THE_INTERNET> [21:07] *JamieS93* I'm not hacking. I'm merely gathering WHOIS information on you, something that's basically open to all of the public. Any user's WHOIS information is available to be viewed at any time on IRC.
2008-05-21 22:02 < THE_INTERNET> lol
2008-05-21 22:02 < chzz> THE_INTERNET: Fuck right off
2008-05-21 22:03 < THE_INTERNET> [21:07] *JamieS93* all of the public on this IRC channel, that is.
2008-05-21 22:03 * Mahlzahn wonders what the internet has against Michael Everson
2008-05-21 22:03 < chzz> !admin
2008-05-21 22:03 < bbot> Mahlzahn: His ugly, ugly face.
2008-05-21 22:03 < bbot> chzz: Yes?
2008-05-21 22:03 < gwern> JamieS93: why do you keep lying?
2008-05-21 22:03 < Gracenotes> leik all of the public on freenode network period
2008-05-21 22:03 < THE_INTERNET> bbot i wish to report a hacker
2008-05-21 22:03 < chzz> bbot: consider kicking THE_INTERNET for personal attacks
2008-05-21 22:03 < gwern> JamieS93: just admit that you're a dirty cracker. the FBI is already on the way
2008-05-21 22:03 < gwern> JamieS93: the judge might be more lenient if you repent!
2008-05-21 22:03 < THE_INTERNET> I love all people.
2008-05-21 22:03 < bbot> chzz: Never! #wikipedia is sadly berefit of lulz
2008-05-21 22:04 < Gracenotes> chzz: calm down. personal attacks and IRC are inseperable.
2008-05-21 22:04 < gwern> CRACKING IS TEH UNAMERICAN
2008-05-21 22:04 < Gracenotes> it's the transient nature of the medium. some people will end up offended.
2008-05-21 22:04 < Gracenotes> don't take it seriously :)
2008-05-21 22:04 < bbot> bereft*
2008-05-21 22:04 < bbot> thanks for nothing, google
2008-05-21 22:04 < chzz> ok; all Americans are cunts
2008-05-21 22:04 < THE_INTERNET> bbot i wish to report chzz for defamation of character
2008-05-21 22:04 < Gracenotes> chzz: wuv 2 u
2008-05-21 22:05 < bbot> chzz: Hah! I'm from Seattle, so I'm not directly insulted!
2008-05-21 22:05 < THE_INTERNET> now see THAT is a personal attack, i am an american and you directed it at all of us
2008-05-21 22:05 < Mahlzahn> THE_INTERNET: you have only upper case ASCII character, so have no fears about defamation.
2008-05-21 22:05 < chzz> Seattle is obvoiusly an exception
2008-05-21 22:05 < Gracenotes> shall we initiate another lolsuit?
2008-05-21 22:05 < gwern> THE_INTERNET: handy tip! it's only 'slander' if spoken; written means it's 'libel'!
2008-05-21 22:05 * gwern learned that from an Encyclopedia Brown story
2008-05-21 22:05 < THE_INTERNET> Gracenotes I believe so, yes!
2008-05-21 22:05 < THE_INTERNET> Libel!
2008-05-21 22:06 < Gracenotes> gwern: protip, in the vernacular
2008-05-21 22:06 < Gracenotes> I'd consider IRC slander because of its dialoguesque properties
2008-05-21 22:06 < gwern> wait, aren't people from Seattle from America?
2008-05-21 22:06 < Mahlzahn> Gracenotes: protip?
2008-05-21 22:06 < THE_INTERNET> yes
2008-05-21 22:06 < chzz> THE_INTERNET: God created all; elvis lives; we never went to the moon, and David Ike really is the 3rd coming.
2008-05-21 22:06 < THE_INTERNET> sort of
2008-05-21 22:06 < THE_INTERNET> the communist part of america
2008-05-21 22:06 < me1> wait, there is actually someone with an all caps name?
2008-05-21 22:06 < me1> oh my god, its the end of the world
2008-05-21 22:06 * Gracenotes waves at A_TOKINA
2008-05-21 22:06 < me1> oh
2008-05-21 22:06 < me1> ok
2008-05-21 22:07 < me1> nvm
2008-05-21 22:07 < me1> wtf, america isn't communist
2008-05-21 22:07 * Mahlzahn /i's THE_INTERNET
2008-05-21 22:07 < Mahlzahn> aaah. quiet.
2008-05-21 22:07 < Gracenotes> I'd list all of the all-caps people in this channel but am such a sensitive soul I wouldn't want to ping people unnecessarily
2008-05-21 22:07 < bbot> me1: Yeah, it's facist.
2008-05-21 22:07 < Mike_H> bbot: What do they have against faces?
2008-05-21 22:08 < me1> heh
2008-05-21 22:08 < gwern> Gracenotes: who, like LOUD_CAT?
2008-05-21 22:08 < THE_INTERNET> i would like to point out that people who go, [21:11] * Mahlzahn /i's THE_INTERNET [21:12] <Mahlzahn> aaah. quiet. are just the coolest people ever
2008-05-21 22:08 < Gracenotes> hey, I'd be fine with making the internet invite-only
2008-05-21 22:08 < me1> THE_INTERNET, why is your name set as sdsd?
2008-05-21 22:09 < Mahlzahn> standard-subscriber-dialed
2008-05-21 22:09 < THE_INTERNET> me1 excellent question. To understand it you must have a doctorate in the computer sciences
2008-05-21 22:09 < Mahlzahn> plain old POTty
2008-05-21 22:09 < me1> no, i need you to answer my question
2008-05-21 22:09 < bbot> It is critical!
2008-05-21 22:10 < bbot> So goddamn important!
2008-05-21 22:10 < THE_INTERNET> me1: the answer is 100010010101101001010101010001001010101001010110101010010101001010101010010100101100101010100101
2008-05-21 22:10 < Mahlzahn> that it needs two exclamation marks!!
2008-05-21 22:10 < Mahlzahn> *phew*
2008-05-21 22:10 < Warpath> ;)
2008-05-21 22:10 < quanticle> Thank you Krimpet
2008-05-21 22:10 < bbot> ah man
2008-05-21 22:11 < Gracenotes> yay, Facebook doesn't crash Firefox 3rc1
2008-05-21 22:11 < bbot> always kicking the coolest trolls
2008-05-21 22:11 < Krimpet> i hear there's rumors on the internets that that guy's a troll. :p
2008-05-21 22:11 < JamieS93> thanks Krimpet.
2008-05-21 22:11 < Mahlzahn> Krimpet you deserve a barnstar
2008-05-21 22:15 < gwern> huh! this is a very interesting paper
2008-05-21 22:15 < quanticle> gwern: Link plz.
2008-05-21 22:15 < gwern> it claims that there was a very good reason pirates flew the Jolly Roger
2008-05-21 22:15 < gwern> care to guess what it is?
2008-05-21 22:16 < gwern> -_- that's not a guess
2008-05-21 22:16 < bbot> More zippers, mule!
2008-05-21 22:16 < quanticle> gwern: To strike fear in their prey?
2008-05-21 22:16 < gwern> nope
2008-05-21 22:16 < gwern> not even close
2008-05-21 22:16 < Krimpet> to keep the zombies, ninjas, and other internet clichés at bay?
2008-05-21 22:17 < gwern> quanticle: the paper claims that merchantmen had two main predators, pirates, and 'guards of the coast' - vessels from a particular nation patrolling their waters to confiscate foreign ships
2008-05-21 22:17 < bbot> That's the answer! Jungle patrol!
2008-05-21 22:17 < gwern> the important point is that guards of the coast weren't allowed to slaughter a crew once they surrendered, even if they'd been fighting
2008-05-21 22:18 < gwern> so any merchantman would fight a guard of the coast, since often they could win
2008-05-21 22:18 < gwern> but pirates couldn't afford to fight
2008-05-21 22:18 < gwern> so the jolly roger signified 'I'm a pirate, and if you resist, I'm going to slaughter you all for the trouble you caused me, so you won't get off as easy as with a guard of the coast (whom I otherwise resemble exactly)'
2008-05-21 22:19 < quanticle> So pirates flew the Jolly Roger to strike fear in their prey.
2008-05-21 22:19 < gwern> quanticle: see http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/20/are-pirates-the-key-to-understanding-the-world/ the pirational choice one
2008-05-21 22:19 < gwern> no :(
2008-05-21 22:19 < gwern> I see you missed the point
2008-05-21 22:19 < quanticle> gwern: The entire tactic was to tell the crew to surrender, since pirates showed no mercy, while the privateers did.
2008-05-21 22:19 < gwern> the point was, flying a jolly roger signifies a message to the merchant, that it's a pirate and not a guard; and thus the incentives are different
2008-05-21 22:20 < gwern> well, pirates could and did show mercy when they didn't decide to fly the jolly roger
2008-05-21 22:21 < gwern> for example, they might need a doctor or carpenter off the ship. obviously if they flew the jolly roger and the prey resisted, there'd be no point
2008-05-21 22:21 < quanticle> gwern: I highly doubt that upon seeing a Jolly Roger the merchantman captain thought to himself, "Hmmm, it'd be in my economic interest to surrender." He probably thought, "Oh SHIT! They're flying the Jolly Roger! Strike the colors if you value your lives!"
2008-05-21 22:23 < gwern> nah, it'd be more like 'how are the odds? hm, they don't look so hot. Well, bad luck I guess. Better surrender.'
2008-05-21 22:24 < gwern> they had to think it out - because often enough you *could* beat the pirate/guard
2008-05-21 22:24 < quanticle> gwern: That's true. Pirates weren't nearly as heavily armed as they were made out to be.
2008-05-21 22:25 < quanticle> Also, does anyone know how often pirates ended up attacking each other?
2008-05-21 22:25 < quanticle> I mean the concept of pirates attacking each other is rather like the Prisoner's Dilemma game.
2008-05-21 22:26 < gwern> quanticle: pretty rarely, I'd imagine. when you consider how many costs a fight incurs, fighting another pirate is crazy talk
2008-05-21 22:27 < gwern> I mean, low-scale conflict on land - sure, pirates were thieves and condemned men. why not? but on the high seas?
2008-05-21 22:31 < quanticle> gwern: Right, and given how large the seas are I guess it'd be pretty rare for two pirate vessels to encounter the same merchantman.
2008-05-21 22:31 < quanticle> Simultaneously.
2008-05-21 22:33 < quanticle> Say, would anyone here mind critiquing this spec for a computer I'm building?
2008-05-21 22:33 < quanticle> https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=11594247&WishListTitle=Mom%27s+Computer
2008-05-21 22:34 < bbot> You've got two SATA cables but only two SATA drives
2008-05-21 22:34 < gwern> yeah, definitely
2008-05-21 22:34 < bbot> err, four
2008-05-21 22:35 < quanticle> bbot: Well, the extras are for a separate project.
2008-05-21 22:35 * quanticle is planning on adding another drive to my computer
2008-05-21 22:35 * Lucifer_Cat yawns
2008-05-21 22:36 < Lucifer_Cat> wow.. . that was one awesome presleep nap
2008-05-21 22:36 < gwern> quanticle: personally, I think these days the bottleneck is the disk; is there any way you can economize and get something faster than a 7200rpm?
2008-05-21 22:36 < Cyrius> spoken like a real cat
2008-05-21 22:36 < gwern> maybe drop down in capacity? I can't see a 'mom' using up 750GB unless she's doing something like video editing
2008-05-21 22:37 < quanticle> gwern: Well, I guess I could drop it to a 500GB drive, but I'm not sure that increasing the speed will be of any benefit, given that this isn't going to be a gaming box.
2008-05-21 22:38 < gwern> quanticle: then fast drive is even more important - if she's going to be doing *nothing* that is cpu- or memory-bound, the bottleneck is always going to be the network or disk
2008-05-21 22:38 < gwern> you can't do anything about the network, but you certainly could about the disk
2008-05-21 22:39 < gwern> huh. the paper mentions that just possessing a jolly roger was enough to condemn a crew as pirates
2008-05-21 22:39 < gwern> yeah, I guess that certainly makes flying a jolly roger a reliable signal of piracy!
2008-05-21 22:40 < quanticle> gwern: Well, there is one other bottleneck - the user. Given that her current box is a 466MHz PII with 512MB RAM (which miraculously runs XP), I'm not sure that getting a fast disk is of prime importance...
2008-05-21 22:41 < gwern> better optimize now than later
2008-05-21 22:42 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I must commend you on your ability to continually harass me, despite the loss of several major units.
2008-05-21 22:42 < quanticle> gwern: I guess.
2008-05-21 22:42 < quanticle> I'll get a faster 500GB drive.
2008-05-21 22:42 < gwern> if there's, say, a 9200 rpm drive with 500gb at the same pricepoint, you'd be nuts and doing your mother a disservice to stick with the slower larger disk
2008-05-21 22:42 < gwern> (I might also suggest increasing RAM, but I dunno how much your mother usually runs or the OS)
2008-05-21 22:44 * Lucifer_Cat is bit of a jerk that way.
2008-05-21 22:44 < gwern> good good
2008-05-21 22:45 < gwern> quanticle: oh, and when building a cheap system, I like to follow the ars technica budget box. (just some advice)
2008-05-21 22:47 < gwern> huh. 15k rpm drives are expensive
2008-05-21 22:48 < gwern> at 1000 dollars for 300GB at 15k, ram and flash drives start sounding better
2008-05-21 22:48 < Lucifer_Cat> <Chzz> ok; all Americans are cunts
2008-05-21 22:48 < Lucifer_Cat> <bbot> chzz: Hah! I'm from Seattle, so I'm not directly insulted!
2008-05-21 22:48 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-21 22:48 < gwern> the rest are dicks, of course
2008-05-21 22:48 < Mahlzahn> quanticle: what do you need a 430W power supply for?
2008-05-21 22:49 < FastLizard4> Mahlzahn: I need a 600W power supply for my new PC
2008-05-21 22:49 < gwern> (we all know hermaphrodites and other transgender oddities are not really american)
2008-05-21 22:49 < chzz> dicks want to fuck cunts; but cunts are assholes
2008-05-21 22:49 < bbot> chzz needs to work on his anatomy
2008-05-21 22:49 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: cool
2008-05-21 22:49 < Lucifer_Cat> chzz: make some sense
2008-05-21 22:49 < gwern> chzz: yes, yes, your team america allusion is well done
2008-05-21 22:49 < gwern> now desist
2008-05-21 22:50 < chzz> gwern: y?
2008-05-21 22:50 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: he makes perfect sense, it's the movie which is nonsensical
2008-05-21 22:51 < gwern> such crude sexual humor is unworthy of this channel
2008-05-21 22:51 < gwern> now let us turn to more refined subjects
2008-05-21 22:51 < gwern> (like twincest)
2008-05-21 22:51 < bbot> It's the best!
2008-05-21 22:52 < Rinn> Does quoting a nonsensical movie make any more sense than the movie itself?
2008-05-21 22:52 < Lucifer_Cat> twincest FTW
2008-05-21 22:53 < Lucifer_Cat> Rinn: what country you from?
2008-05-21 22:53 < gwern> sure it does
2008-05-21 22:53 * chzz consults [[Incest between twins]]
2008-05-21 22:53 < Mahlzahn> Rinn: yes, you are then for what it was made for - to be a bad example. :)
2008-05-21 22:53 < gwern> just like the set of all integers can be less complex than any particular integer
2008-05-21 22:54 < Rinn> United States of something.
2008-05-21 22:54 < Mahlzahn> chzz: after the recent spate of dumb-ass renames and categorization, the article you are probably looking for is [[Incest between /identical/ twins]]
2008-05-21 22:54 < Lucifer_Cat> Mahlzahn: lol
2008-05-21 22:55 < chzz> Is there a movie? where's the torrent? '-)
2008-05-21 22:55 < Mahlzahn> heh
2008-05-21 22:56 < Gracenotes> chzz: apparently twincest sells well, in terms of adult films
2008-05-21 22:56 < The359> mmmm
2008-05-21 22:56 < The359> twincest
2008-05-21 22:56 < chzz> nah; doesn't do it for me.
2008-05-21 22:56 < Gracenotes> or at least studios *claiming* material is twincest
2008-05-21 22:56 < Mahlzahn> Gracenotes: I think we will have to yield to your expertise on that subject
2008-05-21 22:56 < Gracenotes> riiiiiight
2008-05-21 22:57 < Mahlzahn> :)
2008-05-21 22:57 * Mike_H dances with Gracenotes
2008-05-21 22:57 < Mahlzahn> seriously though - I've never seen a flick of that genre
2008-05-21 22:58 < Mike_H> Weren't the Barbi twins porn stars?
2008-05-21 22:58 < Mahlzahn> twincest that is
2008-05-21 22:58 < Mike_H> Or at least "models"?
2008-05-21 22:58 < Mike_H> Shane Barbi and Sia Barbi, also known as The Barbi Twins (born April 2, 1963 in San Diego, California), are identical twins and pin-up models.
2008-05-21 22:59 < Mike_H> Shane and Sia posed together in two top-selling issues of Playboy, and also in several internationally-distributed calendars.
2008-05-21 23:00 < Mahlzahn> two days ago I upp'd an article on a Hollywood starlet whose first film was a "feminist drama" :)
2008-05-21 23:02 < Mike_H> Mahlzahn: I'm watching old L.A. Law clips now :)
2008-05-21 23:03 < Lucifer_Cat> Mike_H: im watching single female lawyer now
2008-05-21 23:03 < Lubaf> Law & Order has two more seasons before it becomes the longest running show in the history of television.
2008-05-21 23:03 < Lubaf> No, really.
2008-05-21 23:04 < Lubaf> That's impressive.
2008-05-21 23:04 < Sky2042_afk> Lubaf: simpsons?
2008-05-21 23:04 < Lubaf> *longest running fictional show
2008-05-21 23:04 < Lubaf> Sky2042_afk: Law & Order got it's start before the Simpsons.
2008-05-21 23:04 < bbot> god damn it freenode
2008-05-21 23:04 < Sky2042_afk> Oh.
2008-05-21 23:04 < gwern> 'For Blackbeard, at least, this investment paid o¤. According to historian Angus Konstam who has investigated Blackbeard's life and piratical career extensively, until Blackbeard's final battle with the lieutenant of HMS Pearl, Robert Maynard, who took the bearded icon's life, the world's most notorious and fearsome pirate had not so much as killed a single man (2006: 157). Apparently he didn't need to.'
2008-05-21 23:05 < Sky2042_afk> Who has the current record?
2008-05-21 23:05 < Lubaf> Gunsmoke.
2008-05-21 23:05 < Lubaf> 20 seasons.
2008-05-21 23:05 < Mike_H> Starring James Arness
2008-05-21 23:05 < Mike_H> as Matt
2008-05-21 23:05 < Mike_H> Dillon!
2008-05-21 23:05 < Mike_H> dun dun dun
2008-05-21 23:05 < gwern> Lubaf: I find that very unlikely, between some soaps and some japanese shows
2008-05-21 23:06 < Mike_H> gwern: nighttime at least, the record is 20 seasons
2008-05-21 23:06 < Lubaf> gwern: Primetime USA fictional shows, okay?
2008-05-21 23:06 < Mike_H> for a nighttime scripted.
2008-05-21 23:06 < bbot> In America!
2008-05-21 23:06 < gwern> Lubaf: qualifiers are important
2008-05-21 23:06 < Lubaf> Fred Rogers ran 33 years.
2008-05-21 23:06 < Lubaf> Hrm.
2008-05-21 23:06 < Mike_H> but that was daytime
2008-05-21 23:07 < gwern> for example, I'm the strongest human being ever (in my room)
2008-05-21 23:07 < Mike_H> the longest-running TV show in the US, regardless of genre, is Meet the Press.
2008-05-21 23:07 < Mike_H> Then Guiding Light is second.
2008-05-21 23:08 < Lubaf> Dr. Who's run 30 some seasons.
2008-05-21 23:08 < Lubaf> Holy shit.
2008-05-21 23:08 < FastLizard4> omgmultisupernetsplits
2008-05-21 23:08 < The359> their "season"s are a bit different
2008-05-21 23:08 < bbot> FastLizard4: It's the same server, twice.
2008-05-21 23:08 < bbot> Hardly "super"
2008-05-21 23:08 < Sky2042_afk> Lubaf: L&O started after the Simpsons
2008-05-21 23:08 < Mike_H> and Doctor Who went on hiatus more than once.
2008-05-21 23:09 < FastLizard4> bbot: Supernetsplits are ones that knock out moar than 15 people
2008-05-21 23:09 < Gracenotes> bbot: same server? you mean it showed "xxx.freenode.net irc.freenode.net" for every quit?
2008-05-21 23:09 < Lubaf> Sky2042_afk: My mistake.
2008-05-21 23:09 < bbot> Gracenotes: Beg pardon?
2008-05-21 23:09 < bbot> FastLizard4: On a channel with 176 people, that isn't hard
2008-05-21 23:09 < FastLizard4> bbot: Still, it qualifies
2008-05-21 23:09 < FastLizard4> And it dosen't have to be the same server
2008-05-21 23:09 < Gracenotes> bbot: you may or may not know this, but the quit message shows your server, not the server of those getting knocked out
2008-05-21 23:09 < Sky2042_afk> i'm not seeing any netsplits in this channel ;o
2008-05-21 23:09 < Lubaf> Still, as far as I'm concerned, The Simpsons was cancelled in 2001.
2008-05-21 23:10 < FastLizard4> |<-- Melos-away has left irc.freenode.net (simmons.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)
2008-05-21 23:10 < Gracenotes> Sky2042_afk: conference mode likely
2008-05-21 23:10 < FastLizard4> That server in the quit message is /your/ server
2008-05-21 23:10 < Sky2042_afk> Gracenotes: aye...
2008-05-21 23:10 < bbot> bugger me
2008-05-21 23:10 < Gracenotes> freenode is so prudish about servers :<
2008-05-21 23:10 < FastLizard4> It probably is the same server though, the same people got knocked out
2008-05-21 23:11 < FastLizard4> hmm
2008-05-21 23:11 < FastLizard4> I wonder what the channel looks like now to the people that split :P
2008-05-21 23:11 < Gracenotes> perhaps they're thinking the same thing
2008-05-21 23:13 < FastLizard4> Hmm
2008-05-21 23:13 < FastLizard4> Apparently this has been happening a lot today, noting the topic
2008-05-21 23:14 < Krimpet> self-fulfilling prophecy?
2008-05-21 23:14 < Sky2042_afk> lul
2008-05-21 23:14 < FastLizard4> heh
2008-05-21 23:15 < Krimpet> perhaps the h4x0rs saw that in the topic and decided to contribute. :p
2008-05-21 23:15 < FastLizard4> woah
2008-05-21 23:15 < FastLizard4> this is a long netsplit
2008-05-21 23:15 < Lucifer_Cat> 177
2008-05-21 23:16 * Lucifer_Cat haxes Krimpet and Flizzy
2008-05-21 23:16 < FastLizard4> :O
2008-05-21 23:16 * FastLizard4 DDoSs Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-21 23:17 * Lucifer_Cat goes all Brute Force on CatServ's ass
2008-05-21 23:19 < chzz> need input on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Izimi
2008-05-21 23:20 * FastLizard4 steals Lucifer_Cat's identity
2008-05-21 23:20 * FastLizard4 sells it to some person in Russia
2008-05-21 23:23 < Lucifer_Cat> i've had a white russian... never had a brown one
2008-05-21 23:26 < DeadEyeArrow> chzz, article seems kind of nn to me, but not directly spam
2008-05-21 23:29 < chzz> DeadEyeArrow: I know...it's difficult. If u look at the contributor, it's pretty obv spam; he keeps asking how to make it legit; it has minor notoriety, tho lots of that is spamvertizing; I give up, basically; I do think he's succeeded in using WP as another platform for promotion, but I fail to see what I can do
2008-05-21 23:29 < Lucifer_Cat> \o/
2008-05-21 23:30 < Lucifer_Cat> some losersb are back
2008-05-21 23:31 < FastLizard4> wb <s>epicly failing loosers</s> netsplitters
2008-05-21 23:33 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-05-21 23:37 < Lucifer_Cat> teekle, make your move
2008-05-21 23:41 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Moved
2008-05-21 23:42 < Lucifer_Cat> http://youtube.com/watch?v=FgDqwa_pzmg
2008-05-21 23:44 < Lucifer_Cat> jeez, uncyc is overrun by pre-jailbait gals
2008-05-21 23:47 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Moved
2008-05-21 23:48 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Uncyclopedia or #uncyclopedia?
2008-05-21 23:49 < Lucifer_Cat> pound uncyc
2008-05-21 23:56 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: moved
2008-05-21 23:56 * The359 joins #uncyclopedia
2008-05-21 23:56 < Lucifer_Cat> ERROR V2 RHP Secure authentication query failed.
2008-05-21 23:57 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Huh?
2008-05-21 23:57 < quanticle> The359: No you didn't...
2008-05-21 23:57 * quanticle is in #uncyclopedia
2008-05-21 23:58 < Lucifer_Cat> it popped that up when i clicked on the link.
2008-05-21 23:58 * The359 was joking
2008-05-21 23:59 < Lucifer_Cat> bad joke
2008-05-21 23:59 < tawker> cool
2008-05-21 23:59 * The359 lol'd
2008-05-22 00:00 * Lucifer_Cat tawks
2008-05-22 00:01 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: moved
2008-05-22 00:07 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, im writing a "personal finance" blog entry on popular request.
2008-05-22 00:08 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Good move
2008-05-22 00:08 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Moved
2008-05-22 00:13 < gwern> man, this is such an interesting piracy paper
2008-05-22 00:13 < gwern> so one major defense against being hanged as a pirate was to claim you were forced to become a pirate, right?
2008-05-22 00:14 < gwern> so what people would do was, they'd get caputred and then have one of the freed prisoner buy an ad in the newspapers saying their comrade had been impressed by the pirates
2008-05-22 00:14 < gwern> and they would cite the ad in their defense at trial!
2008-05-22 00:15 < gwern> if they wanted to go further, when captured, they'd sneakily tell the captain of their desire to volunteer for piracy, and the captain would have his crew beat them up and threaten their life and put on a good show
2008-05-22 00:15 < gwern> so the honest prisoners who went free would believe their comrade to have been forced into piracy!
2008-05-22 00:15 < gwern> (and obviously they'd call on them at their trial later on)
2008-05-22 00:16 < Lucifer_Cat> heh.
2008-05-22 00:16 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: thats pretty darn cool.
2008-05-22 00:17 < Lucifer_Cat> FastLizard4
2008-05-22 00:17 < Lucifer_Cat> theres a female FastLizard4 impersonator
2008-05-22 00:17 < gwern> I know!
2008-05-22 00:17 < gwern> I've learned so many neat things; I feel a little angry at Pirates of the Carribean now :)
2008-05-22 00:18 < gwern> for example, one thing I learned today was the definition of 'bemute'
2008-05-22 00:18 < gwern> the word bemute means, not to quiet or shush someone (like you would think), but 'to drop feces upon from a great height'
2008-05-22 00:19 < Sky2042_afk> gwern: slang imo.
2008-05-22 00:19 < Sky2042_afk> it's like saying "shut up".
2008-05-22 00:19 < Sky2042_afk> without knowing it means "be quiet"
2008-05-22 00:20 < Lucifer_Cat> sod off
2008-05-22 00:20 < Lucifer_Cat> 'fucking shit'
2008-05-22 00:20 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: move
2008-05-22 00:21 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I'm now getting that RHP security error
2008-05-22 00:21 < Lucifer_Cat> try a cpl times
2008-05-22 00:22 < FastLizard4> Lucifer_Cat: lolwut?
2008-05-22 00:22 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Still getting it
2008-05-22 00:23 < Lucifer_Cat> FastLizard4: i meant to tell him to try two more times.
2008-05-22 00:23 < Lucifer_Cat> internet slang, sorry
2008-05-22 00:24 * Lucifer_Cat moozes
2008-05-22 00:25 < FastLizard4> privatemusings: When is the next notweekly scheduled for?
2008-05-22 00:25 < privatemusings> i don't think it is yet!
2008-05-22 00:25 < privatemusings> I've been a bit busy.....
2008-05-22 00:25 < Lucifer_Cat> FastLizard4: theres a PinkServ`
2008-05-22 00:25 < FastLizard4> Lucifer_Cat: That's a bot :P
2008-05-22 00:26 < Lucifer_Cat> gay bot
2008-05-22 00:26 < Lucifer_Cat> !!! ops!
2008-05-22 00:28 < ice109> what flag can you put into the sandbox to disable bot access?
2008-05-22 00:28 < ice109> err a page
2008-05-22 00:28 < ice109> not sandbox
2008-05-22 00:30 < Lucifer_Cat> TEH N00BZ ARE BACK
2008-05-22 00:30 < ice109> i can't find it anywhere
2008-05-22 00:30 < ice109> give me a break
2008-05-22 00:31 < Lucifer_Cat> oh lol ice109 i didnt mean you
2008-05-22 00:31 < Lucifer_Cat> i was just referring to the end of the netsplit
2008-05-22 00:32 < ice109> well can you help me?
2008-05-22 00:32 < Lucifer_Cat> ironically, as far as actual WP goes, im a noob
2008-05-22 00:35 < quanticle> Mahlzahn: I was looking on Dell's site earlier and a similarly spec'd box cost almost $850. I was quite surprised.
2008-05-22 00:36 < Lucifer_Cat> how much did dell cost?
2008-05-22 00:37 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Around $830 for a similar box
2008-05-22 00:38 < Lucifer_Cat> mikhail dell is a filthy commie
2008-05-22 00:39 < Lucifer_Cat> teekl, we need to work on our world domination AI
2008-05-22 00:39 < Lucifer_Cat> i have some more concrete ideas
2008-05-22 00:40 < Lucifer_Cat> FastLizard4: either its not a bot or its too damn slow
2008-05-22 00:40 < FastLizard4> Lucifer_Cat: It's a bot alright
2008-05-22 00:40 < Lucifer_Cat> that was rehtorical
2008-05-22 00:44 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: try again
2008-05-22 00:47 < Lucifer_Cat> QUANTICLE
2008-05-22 00:48 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Still getting the error
2008-05-22 00:48 < Lucifer_Cat> anyways check pm
2008-05-22 00:52 < quanticle> 'It would be nice if one could win an election on "Don't just do something--stand there!" This would quite warm my little heart. But it doesn't work. Conservatives need to figure out how they are going to roll back the bad ideas and prevent new bad ones from getting through.'
2008-05-22 00:52 < gwern> quanticle: building a box is essentially always cheaper
2008-05-22 00:53 < gwern> there's a serious premium you're paying for not having to understand the parts you want/need, not having to manage the shipping and selection, not having to assemble it, providing an OS, getting support, and of course the immense corporate overhead you don't have as an individiual
2008-05-22 00:54 < quanticle> gwern: Not necessarily. I was looking at Circuit City's ads just now, and they had an arguably equivalent box for about $500. It had less hard drive space, but 3GB of RAM, rather than 2. Of course, it didn't come with a monitor, but I can order one of those off NewEgg for about $200 and still have an equivalent system with less work.
2008-05-22 00:54 < gwern> although admittedly companies can help make up those costs by stuff like Microsoft inflating non-OEM OS licenses, Intel and AMD offering big discounts to builders like Dell they don't offer to small-volume retailers
2008-05-22 00:54 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: you need to take into account that the cos get parts in huge quantities thus getting them for a lot cheaper.
2008-05-22 00:55 < gwern> and truly building your own means integration won't be as well tested or considered
2008-05-22 00:56 < Ceiling_Cat> Grrr
2008-05-22 00:56 < Ceiling_Cat> database lock
2008-05-22 00:57 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: I already mentioned the discounts that retailers don't get
2008-05-22 00:57 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: yes you did. i typed all that in before reading that.
2008-05-22 00:58 < privatemusings> hey ceiling cat - have you considered running for the board?
2008-05-22 00:58 < privatemusings> (and hellooo by the way!)
2008-05-22 00:58 < privatemusings> I've got about 18 hours to persuade you..... so get comfy!
2008-05-22 01:00 * Lucifer_Cat does not think Ceiling_Cat is in any sort of credible physical condition to "run"
2008-05-22 01:00 < quanticle> So, anyway, I don't know what to do at this point. Do I go for the HP that I saw at Circuit City (with 3GB RAM and a 500GB hard drive) or do I go for the homebrew (750GB hard drive and 2GB RAM)?
2008-05-22 01:00 < Ceiling_Cat> privatemusings - it has been suggested to me
2008-05-22 01:00 < privatemusings> I know.
2008-05-22 01:00 < Ceiling_Cat> Maybe in a few years after I finish my phd
2008-05-22 01:00 < privatemusings> by me. just now..
2008-05-22 01:01 < privatemusings> :-)
2008-05-22 01:01 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: check out that thing, deals2buy
2008-05-22 01:01 < Ceiling_Cat> PM - no, someone else who I respect greatly has already suggested it
2008-05-22 01:01 < privatemusings> yeah - sorry, I was just being silly... too much of a time committment then?
2008-05-22 01:01 < Ceiling_Cat> I will say -- the more I found out about what was going on in the front office in Florida
2008-05-22 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> actually, scratch that
2008-05-22 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> the more I find out about what goes on in the office in general
2008-05-22 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> the more I realize how disfunctional it is
2008-05-22 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> a good board is necessary
2008-05-22 01:03 < privatemusings> heh..... the relationships between boards and staff are always... erm.. interesting...
2008-05-22 01:03 < quanticle> privatemusings: Are you on the board?
2008-05-22 01:03 < privatemusings> no
2008-05-22 01:03 < Ceiling_Cat> privatemusings - no no
2008-05-22 01:03 < Ceiling_Cat> ask Danny
2008-05-22 01:03 < privatemusings> ! :-) - I mean in general terms...
2008-05-22 01:03 < gwern> those who want power probably should not have it
2008-05-22 01:03 < Ceiling_Cat> Everything I hear seems to vindicate everything he has to say
2008-05-22 01:03 < Sky2042_afk> gwern: Hmm, reminds me of a certain someone on RFA.
2008-05-22 01:04 < Sky2042_afk> :O
2008-05-22 01:07 * FastLizard4 is now going to bed, good night!
2008-05-22 01:07 < quanticle> Sky2042_afk: Who?
2008-05-22 01:07 * quanticle doesn't follow Request for Adminships.
2008-05-22 01:07 < Sky2042_afk> Kurt Weber, who else?
2008-05-22 01:07 * gwern is not he
2008-05-22 01:07 < quanticle> Schroeder is running for admin?!
2008-05-22 01:08 < quanticle> :O
2008-05-22 01:08 < gwern> although I agree with him to the extent I'll never try RFA until someone asks me/nominates me for it
2008-05-22 01:08 * FastLizard4 is now going to bed, good night!
2008-05-22 01:08 < FastLizard4> whoops, spammed the wrong channel :P
2008-05-22 01:08 < quanticle> Bye FastLizard4
2008-05-22 01:09 * gwern admits I'd like ipexempt, but not enough to break my principles and run for admin
2008-05-22 01:10 < gwern> although as far as ipexempt goes, I have hopes that when policy settles, I can apply for it
2008-05-22 01:10 < gwern> I'm a user in pretty good standing, after all
2008-05-22 01:10 * Ceiling_Cat just wrote a new article
2008-05-22 01:10 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Cathedral of the Nativity in Suzdal]]
2008-05-22 01:11 < privatemusings> first sentence seems to have a typo...
2008-05-22 01:11 < gwern> (what with an account a year or so old and 30k edits to my name, I don't think I'm really a risk for abusing ipexempt)
2008-05-22 01:11 < quanticle> gwern: ipexempt?
2008-05-22 01:11 < privatemusings> should it be 'in Suzdal, Russia'?
2008-05-22 01:11 < quanticle> privatemusings: Yes
2008-05-22 01:11 < gwern> yes
2008-05-22 01:12 < privatemusings> done
2008-05-22 01:12 < Rinn> Didn't Schroeder get banned here?
2008-05-22 01:12 < quanticle> Rinn: Yep. He's on autorem now.
2008-05-22 01:12 < quanticle> For #wikipedia at least
2008-05-22 01:13 < Ceiling_Cat> 489
2008-05-22 01:13 < Ceiling_Cat> That's how many article's I've written
2008-05-22 01:14 * Ceiling_Cat wants to get to 500
2008-05-22 01:14 < Rinn> I've written none!
2008-05-22 01:14 < privatemusings> places seem to be an easy way to get the total up....
2008-05-22 01:14 < privatemusings> loads of local places with good sources missing in my neck of the woods.....
2008-05-22 01:14 < privatemusings> (not that I've written any of them yet!)
2008-05-22 01:15 < Ceiling_Cat> privatemusings - actually, articles on invidiual TV episodes and characters are the best way to artificially inflate it
2008-05-22 01:15 < Ceiling_Cat> (IMO)
2008-05-22 01:15 < privatemusings> heh... yeah, guess so....
2008-05-22 01:15 < privatemusings> actually - in some ways, they're my secret shame.....
2008-05-22 01:15 < Rinn> I still say they should bring back the individual Pokemon articles.
2008-05-22 01:15 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Like articles on individual pokemon?
2008-05-22 01:15 < privatemusings> don't tell anyone - but I quite like them!
2008-05-22 01:16 < Ceiling_Cat> actually, [[Preclusive purchasing]] <-- I'm quite proud of this one
2008-05-22 01:16 < Ceiling_Cat> I was reading the big, big, big, big book of world war II
2008-05-22 01:16 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: The issue with having articles for individual characters is that you can run into notability trouble
2008-05-22 01:16 < Ceiling_Cat> and I came across that concept
2008-05-22 01:16 < privatemusings> I was pressing random yesterday, and this one came up;
2008-05-22 01:16 < privatemusings> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_troll
2008-05-22 01:16 < privatemusings> made me smile ;-)
2008-05-22 01:17 < Krimpet> "A Mountain troll is self-evidently a troll who lives in or on a mountain, or is perhaps originally from a mountainous area."
2008-05-22 01:17 < Krimpet> oh thank you, Wikipedia. :)
2008-05-22 01:18 * privatemusings blushes, because he expanded that sentence!
2008-05-22 01:18 < gwern> zomg troll! BANNINATE
2008-05-22 01:18 * Sky2042_afk trolls krimpet.
2008-05-22 01:19 * Krimpet bludgeons Sky2042_afk with the almighty banhammer
2008-05-22 01:20 * Rinn does nothing!
2008-05-22 01:20 * Sky2042_afk nothings gwern.
2008-05-22 01:20 < Krimpet> I've always considered myself more of an urban troll, myself. ;p
2008-05-22 01:21 * Sky2042_afk suburbanizes Krimpet.
2008-05-22 01:24 * Ceiling_Cat hops onto Krimpet's face
2008-05-22 01:24 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles
2008-05-22 01:25 * Krimpet tries to pry Ceiling_Cat off with a crowbar, but in vain!
2008-05-22 01:26 < Ceiling_Cat> "The President wants me to argue that he is as powerful a monarch as Louis XIV, only four years at a time, and is not subject to the processes of any court in the land except the court of impeachment." -- Richard Nixon's lawyer, James D. St. Clair
2008-05-22 01:31 < Lucifer_Cat> http://youtube.com/watch?v=CsrfovOPcjk
2008-05-22 01:39 < Krimpet> moar netsplitz
2008-05-22 01:39 < Lucifer_Cat> ugh
2008-05-22 01:40 * Krimpet rides da split
2008-05-22 01:55 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, i'd much rather someone ride the pole
2008-05-22 02:00 < quanticle> YOU'RE BACK
2008-05-22 02:00 * quanticle hugs the returned netsplitters
2008-05-22 02:02 < quanticle> "LEST we forget, there is a war going on in Iraq and yesterday brought some good news. The Iraqi army rolled into Sadr City on Tuesday without a shot being fired. " <-- I'd hardly consider that good news. I'd consider it evidence of a trap.
2008-05-22 02:05 < bumm13> who said that?
2008-05-22 02:06 < quanticle> http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/05/that_thing_in_iraq.cfm
2008-05-22 02:06 < quanticle> Even the Economist can be wrong sometimes.
2008-05-22 02:07 < bumm13> "I don't understand. Are there superdelegates?"
2008-05-22 02:07 < bumm13> :\
2008-05-22 02:07 < bumm13> (from comments)
2008-05-22 02:07 < Alkivar> wow today's woot is a damn good deal
2008-05-22 02:08 < bumm13> Iraq - that "military thingy" that drains our federal taxpayer dollars
2008-05-22 02:09 < bumm13> nothing like good ol' quicksand pits ;p
2008-05-22 02:09 < bumm13> the U.S. is a breeding ground for murderers; we should have a "War Against Murder"
2008-05-22 02:10 < quanticle> bumm13: Rory T's comment on that page is most insightful.
2008-05-22 02:10 < quanticle> I am also confused by your assertion that the Iraqi Army’s “increasingly successful operation in Basra” has strengthened Mr. Maliki. Before al-sadr instructed his militiamen to lay down their arms, those Iraqi Army forces that had not yet deserted were being thoroughly routed.
2008-05-22 02:11 < bumm13> sure
2008-05-22 02:11 < Lubaf> "# You have to wonder what goes on in Deadpool's mind, as one instance shows him jumping into the cab of an eighteen-wheeler and strangling Santa Claus with a string of barbed wire, while his yellow text boxes dictates, "It was a routine assignment.""
2008-05-22 02:11 < Lubaf> - From the TVTropes wiki, discussing I Am Not Making This Up scenarios.
2008-05-22 02:12 < bumm13> I don't even know how it's expected for the American public to know what's going on in Iraq at all
2008-05-22 02:12 < bumm13> it's not like the military and media make such a great effort to keep the populace truly informed on matters there
2008-05-22 02:13 < bumm13> I guess they just prefer the "fervent nationalism" method to keep the public interested
2008-05-22 02:13 < quanticle> bumm13: I get most of my Iraq coverage from foreign sources like The Guardian and the Economist. The only issue with their coverage is that its slanted towards Southern Iraq, because that's where the British troops are stationed. I can't complain, though, because, these days, southern Iraq is where all the action is.
2008-05-22 02:14 < bumm13> true
2008-05-22 02:14 < bumm13> gas prices skyrocket, the economy continues to crumble, and we're engaged in a senseless sectarian battle in "sandyland"
2008-05-22 02:15 < bumm13> but God Bless America! ;p
2008-05-22 02:15 < quanticle> bumm13: "Sandyland?" All this time I was calling it "Rumsfeld's folly."
2008-05-22 02:15 < bumm13> well, that too
2008-05-22 02:15 < bumm13> how about the U.S. does something novel:
2008-05-22 02:16 < bumm13> get the hell out, then when it gets truly widespread, we can fight a conventional war instead of this guerrilla/sectarian crap
2008-05-22 02:16 < bumm13> apparently we didn't learn from the mistakes of Vietnam
2008-05-22 02:18 < quanticle> bumm13: To be fair, the chances of a spectacular conventional war are pretty slim these days. Most everyone knows that you can't take on American combined arms tactics in any sort of direct fashion on an open battlefield and have any hope of surviving.
2008-05-22 02:19 < bumm13> good, let the troops come home :-)
2008-05-22 02:19 < bumm13> we can no longer salvage anything in Iraq
2008-05-22 02:21 < bumm13> and if Iran overruns the place, we'll mark the outline of Iraq with a "dotted" line on our maps saying "(disputed territory)" :p
2008-05-22 02:21 < quanticle> Awesome! Man. Utd. beat Chelsea in penalties. I'm no fan of Man Utd. (being an Arsenal fan since I was 15 or so), but I dislike Chelsea even more than Man. Utd.
2008-05-22 02:21 < bumm13> zomg soccer!
2008-05-22 02:22 * bumm13 yayn-key
2008-05-22 02:22 < quanticle> bumm13: Iran won't be able to overrun all of Iraq. They'll get the south for sure, but the middle and north will resist. The north will break off into an independent Kurdistan, and the middle will most likely ally with Syria or the Saudis.
2008-05-22 02:24 < bumm13> of course, we'll let more troops die just to prevent such a "catastrophe"
2008-05-22 02:26 < quanticle> lolwut
2008-05-22 02:26 < quanticle> 7Chan --> American Cancer Society
2008-05-22 02:38 < Alkivar> wow i found a bigger loser than all of you: http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080521/NEWS/805210367
2008-05-22 02:55 * Luna-San <-- just a bill
2008-05-22 03:37 < Lubaf> Is there a place I can go to request an actual article is written?
2008-05-22 03:37 < Alkivar> your in the right place
2008-05-22 03:37 < Alkivar> what do you want written?
2008-05-22 03:37 < Lubaf> [[Holier than thou]], which is, at present, a redirect to a Metalica article.
2008-05-22 03:37 < Lubaf> I'm wondering if it shouldn't be a disambig page.
2008-05-22 03:37 < Alkivar> [[Wikipedia:Requested articles]]
2008-05-22 03:38 < Alkivar> if you want something actually written
2008-05-22 03:38 < Alkivar> if its a disambig page you see a need for... make one
2008-05-22 03:38 < Alkivar> thats an easy task
2008-05-22 03:38 < AdamBishop> there is [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation]] too
2008-05-22 03:43 < Lubaf> I'm not very good for writing at the moment, and I think I'm going to forget this by tomorrow.
2008-05-22 03:44 < Lubaf> So could somebody turn [[Holier than thou]] into a real disambig page, rather than a redlink (if uncapitalized) or a Metallica redirect (if capitalized)?
2008-05-22 03:44 < Hildanknight> Who is holier than thou? Betacommand?
2008-05-22 03:46 < StayTuned> man this burning CD's thing is almost like work
2008-05-22 03:47 < Alkivar> staytuned: i know what you mean
2008-05-22 03:47 < Alkivar> i have about 300 gigs worth of disc images i need to burn
2008-05-22 03:47 < Alkivar> and i've been too lazy to get off my ass and burn the dvds
2008-05-22 03:47 < StayTuned> that's a lot - I have only 2 - and I'm burning only 1
2008-05-22 03:47 < Alkivar> i'll probably spend all day sunday burning
2008-05-22 03:48 < StayTuned> and its taking forever
2008-05-22 03:48 < Alkivar> 24x DVD+R :D
2008-05-22 03:48 < StayTuned> I am duplicating our CD
2008-05-22 03:48 < Alkivar> I <3 SATA plextor burners
2008-05-22 03:48 < Alkivar> plextor... perfect burns since before you heard of a cd-rom
2008-05-22 03:48 < StayTuned> I actually have 2 PC's going at it at the moment
2008-05-22 03:50 * AdamBishop thinks about buying a Mac
2008-05-22 03:50 < Alkivar> AdamBishop: laptop or tower?
2008-05-22 03:50 * Hildanknight also thinks about buying a Mac.
2008-05-22 03:50 < AdamBishop> tower probably
2008-05-22 03:50 < Hildanknight> If an Apple a day keeps the doctor away, we should all boycott Microsoft. :P
2008-05-22 03:50 < StayTuned> I am using the slowest burner known to man
2008-05-22 03:50 < StayTuned> Windows Media Player 9
2008-05-22 03:50 < Alkivar> the new MacPro's are great... word of advice... get as little ram as possible when you buy it
2008-05-22 03:51 * AdamBishop also thinks about how all his money goes to food and mortgage
2008-05-22 03:51 < Alkivar> its 3x cheaper to buy ram elsewhere
2008-05-22 03:51 * StayTuned no longer has mac lust
2008-05-22 03:52 < StayTuned> I want a decent AMD64 PC Capable of OpenSolaris
2008-05-22 03:52 < Alkivar> why opensolaris?
2008-05-22 03:52 < Alkivar> it has horrible support
2008-05-22 03:52 < StayTuned> genunix kernel
2008-05-22 03:52 < Alkivar> and very little app developer base
2008-05-22 03:52 < AdamBishop> well all I ever use on the PC is Word and Firefox
2008-05-22 03:52 < AdamBishop> and I can use both of those on a Mac!
2008-05-22 03:53 < StayTuned> Alkivar - and the 64 bit version is lightning fast
2008-05-22 03:53 < bumm13> hiya AdamBishop
2008-05-22 03:54 < AdamBishop> hey
2008-05-22 03:54 < Alkivar> meh i'd still rather run OSX Server than OpenSolaris
2008-05-22 04:03 < bumm13> :#
2008-05-22 04:03 < bumm13> Sdalmonte: fixed your connection?
2008-05-22 04:03 < Sdalmonte> bumm13: apparently, thanks :)
2008-05-22 04:12 < AdamBishop> "Yikes. Aren't other sites available for this stuff? Is every movie going to have a page on Wikipedia?"
2008-05-22 04:13 < AdamBishop> ah, comments from 2004.
2008-05-22 04:14 < Sdalmonte> OK, question: not sure what to say to the user "Tiffren or Angel624". Her (their?) account is only a few weeks old, and their edits are basically all sad fannish whining about "Lilo & Stitch".
2008-05-22 04:14 < Sdalmonte> How is this normally dealt with?
2008-05-22 04:17 < Lady_Aleena> Sdalmonte: Are the edits to articles or to talk pages?
2008-05-22 04:17 < bumm13> AdamBishop: heh