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2008-05-20 01:26 < The359> she's female, females aren't pervy
2008-05-20 01:26 < Rinn> And its search volume has been steadily decreasing as people get more paranoid/less dumb.
2008-05-20 01:26 < Lucifer_Cat> and while you are at it though, can you find me some hot pics of that older gal in narnia?
2008-05-20 01:26 < Rinn> Its news reference volume has stayed roughly the same, though.
2008-05-20 01:27 < Rinn> With a big peak in late 2004/early 2005.
2008-05-20 01:27 < The359> how did we get started discussing which country is more perverted?
2008-05-20 01:27 < Lucifer_Cat> The359: rinn is looking for all pervy terms
2008-05-20 01:27 < Rinn> "Rape" is most often searched for in Pakistan.
2008-05-20 01:28 < Lucifer_Cat> Rinn: somehow, im not surprised
2008-05-20 01:28 < Rinn> "Rape video" also, although the gap between it and India is lowered for that.
2008-05-20 01:28 * Lucifer_Cat facepalms
2008-05-20 01:28 < Lucifer_Cat> pervy people
2008-05-20 01:30 < Rinn> "Bestiality" is most often searched for in South Africa.
2008-05-20 01:30 < Rinn> Let's see, what else is there...
2008-05-20 01:30 < Rinn> Oddly, US hasn't been in the top five for any of these.
2008-05-20 01:30 < chzz> bukkake ftw ;-) (would it be Japan, perchance?)
2008-05-20 01:31 < Lucifer_Cat> i thought last one would be brazil
2008-05-20 01:31 < Rinn> chzz: Italy, actually.
2008-05-20 01:31 < chzz> How about 2girls1cup ?
2008-05-20 01:31 < Rinn> Japan isn't even on the top ten.
2008-05-20 01:31 < chzz> !
2008-05-20 01:31 < Rinn> United States wins for 2girls1cup! Let's give them all a hand.
2008-05-20 01:31 < chzz> Yay.
2008-05-20 01:32 < The359> Probably because most people spell it Beastiality, Rinn
2008-05-20 01:32 < Rinn> I searched for that, too. Also South Africa.
2008-05-20 01:33 < Rinn> The UK searches for "scat" the most often.
2008-05-20 01:33 < chzz> lollipop ?
2008-05-20 01:33 < Lucifer_Cat> Rinn: if you /want/ to discuss porn, atleast talk about pleasant stuff like "hot lesbians" or "kissing lesbians"
2008-05-20 01:34 < chzz> lol. 2girls were kissing!
2008-05-20 01:34 < Rinn> Australia searches for "hot lesbians" the most often.
2008-05-20 01:34 < Rinn> Australia again for "kissing lesbians" along with "lesbians." They sure do love 'em.
2008-05-20 01:35 < Lucifer_Cat> hah true
2008-05-20 01:35 < The359> which country looks up tentacle sex the most?
2008-05-20 01:35 < The359> ($20 on Japan)
2008-05-20 01:35 < Rinn> Your terms - tentacle sex - do not have enough search volume to show graphs.
2008-05-20 01:35 < The359> lame
2008-05-20 01:35 < Rinn> Same for "tentacle rape" and "tentacle porn".
2008-05-20 01:35 < The359> eel sex?
2008-05-20 01:35 < Rinn> Same thing.
2008-05-20 01:36 < Lucifer_Cat> horse porn
2008-05-20 01:36 < Rinn> Norway!
2008-05-20 01:36 < Lucifer_Cat> emma watson
2008-05-20 01:36 < Rinn> Australia in close second.
2008-05-20 01:36 < Rinn> India.
2008-05-20 01:36 < Lucifer_Cat> lol really?
2008-05-20 01:36 < Rinn> Also, she apparently can't get a date.
2008-05-20 01:37 < Lucifer_Cat> lol why
2008-05-20 01:37 < Rinn> "Watson, who plays Hermione Granger in the "Potter" film series, says her career leaves her little time for romance."
2008-05-20 01:37 < Alkivar> so apparently Keifer Sutherland just got divorced
2008-05-20 01:37 < Lucifer_Cat> i can give her some tender loving
2008-05-20 01:37 < Alkivar> expect that article to get hit with attention for the next week
2008-05-20 01:37 < Lucifer_Cat> and shes totally in my date curve
2008-05-20 01:38 < Rinn> 'tis now boring.
2008-05-20 01:39 < Lucifer_Cat> search for pamela anderson
2008-05-20 01:39 < Rinn> Peru.
2008-05-20 01:39 < Lucifer_Cat> peru
2008-05-20 01:39 < Lucifer_Cat> second india
2008-05-20 01:39 < Lucifer_Cat> peru kinda unexpected
2008-05-20 01:40 < Rinn> US isn't even in the top ten.
2008-05-20 01:40 < Lucifer_Cat> heidi klum austria
2008-05-20 01:40 * Rinn sleeps
2008-05-20 01:40 < Lucifer_Cat> thats cuz shes old news now
2008-05-20 01:51 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: Heidi Klum is from Germany.
2008-05-20 01:52 < Mike_H> from Bergisch Gladbach.
2008-05-20 01:52 < Mike_H> I finally get the town right and TheWeasel isn't even here to congratulate me.
2008-05-20 01:52 < Lucifer_Cat> but austria searches more for her
2008-05-20 01:52 < Mike_H> It doesn't change the fact that she's from Germany.
2008-05-20 01:52 < Lucifer_Cat> thanks for waking me up for that
2008-05-20 01:53 < Lucifer_Cat> Mike_H: i /know/ shes from G and i /never/ said shes from austria
2008-05-20 01:53 < Alkivar> Mike did you hear the latest hollywood gossip?
2008-05-20 01:53 < Alkivar> Keifer Sutherland is single again... divorce was finalized yesterday
2008-05-20 01:54 < Mike_H> He's a little old for single, isn't he?
2008-05-20 01:54 < Alkivar> he's what mid 40s?
2008-05-20 01:55 < Mike_H> yeah, old enough to be irrelevant in Hollywood
2008-05-20 01:55 < karora> 40 is the new 30?
2008-05-20 01:55 < Mike_H> karora: Maybe in Cosmo.
2008-05-20 01:56 < Alkivar> damn Keifer is only 11 years older than me
2008-05-20 01:56 < Alkivar> i thought he was older than that
2008-05-20 02:30 < Alkivar> WASHINGTON � Federal regulators say eight former executives of AOL Time Warner fraudulently inflated the company's online advertising revenues by more than $1 billion between 2000 and 2002.
2008-05-20 02:30 < Alkivar> LOL no surprise there
2008-05-20 02:30 < Alkivar> AOL FTL
2008-05-20 02:51 < SynergeticMag> Mike_H: did they ever fix that thing in #wikipedia-brc?
2008-05-20 04:50 < Chenzw> Why is it so quiet today?
2008-05-20 04:50 < SynergeticMag> because we are all zombies
2008-05-20 04:52 < Aqwis> someone try pouring cold water on a light bulb for me please
2008-05-20 04:55 * Chenzw pours cold water on a light bulb
2008-05-20 04:56 < Aqwis> did it explode?
2008-05-20 04:56 < Chenzw> where?
2008-05-20 04:58 < Aqwis> ;|
2008-05-20 05:20 < Jacii> hey!
2008-05-20 05:21 < Jacii> i have a question
2008-05-20 05:21 < Jacii> the phrase "economy is prosperous" is that valid?
2008-05-20 05:22 < Aqwis> i'd rather say "country x is prosperous" instead of "country x's economy is prosperous"
2008-05-20 05:23 < Jacii> yeah we agree.. but it is not the economy of a country, but a industry
2008-05-20 05:23 < Aqwis> hmz
2008-05-20 06:59 < Messedrocker> sdfyukl;'
2008-05-20 07:02 < Fire> Messedrocker: o_O
2008-05-20 07:06 < WonRyong> I want to change logo
2008-05-20 07:06 < WonRyong> how to?
2008-05-20 07:06 < Chenzw> Logo of what?
2008-05-20 07:06 < WonRyong> http://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EA%B7%B8%EB%A6%BC:Wikisource-logoproposal-yoonmyeongjo.png
2008-05-20 07:07 < WonRyong> I don't know how to
2008-05-20 07:07 < Chenzw> You mean you want to upload a new one?
2008-05-20 07:07 < WonRyong> no
2008-05-20 07:07 < WonRyong> community choice it as main logo
2008-05-20 07:08 < WonRyong> I don't know how to set
2008-05-20 07:08 < Chenzw> You have to ask a developer, I think.
2008-05-20 07:08 < WonRyong> where?
2008-05-20 07:09 < Chenzw> irc://irc.freenode.net/#wikimedia-tech
2008-05-20 07:11 < WonRyong> thanks
2008-05-20 07:11 < WonRyong> :)
2008-05-20 07:20 < Jacii> can birds - like dogs - mate between races ?
2008-05-20 07:22 < JessicaTaylor> bird = dog = bog
2008-05-20 07:22 < JessicaTaylor> bird + dog = bog
2008-05-20 07:24 < Jacii> thx.. but it does not really answer my kinf of stupid question.. but it really .. dammit..
2008-05-20 07:25 < Hildanknight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mysid
2008-05-20 07:25 < JamieS93> I believe that birds to have the actual ability to inter-species mate, like many other animals, but they usually chose not to.
2008-05-20 07:29 < Jacii> but why dont thay?
2008-05-20 07:30 < Jacii> they*
2008-05-20 07:30 < Aqwis> they should choose to mate with humans
2008-05-20 07:30 < Aqwis> yes please
2008-05-20 07:31 < Jacii> haha
2008-05-20 07:31 < Jacii> btw.. thx for the answer
2008-05-20 07:59 < bbot> http://www.jive.nl/
2008-05-20 07:59 < bbot> Jive!
2008-05-20 07:59 < bbot> ha ha ha ha
2008-05-20 08:01 < bbot> That's quite the quit message.
2008-05-20 08:04 < TheRtHonWeasel> UC Berkeley uses authoritarian 30s-style political cartoons! http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/misconceps/images/misconceptions_social.gif
2008-05-20 08:26 * Lucifer_Cat induces some life into the channel
2008-05-20 08:26 < Lucifer_Cat> and just in time
2008-05-20 08:27 < Lucifer_Cat> TheRtHonWeasel: wassat?
2008-05-20 08:28 < Lucifer_Cat> TheRtHonWeasel: whats the french word for a seal?
2008-05-20 08:28 < TheRtHonWeasel> ?!
2008-05-20 08:28 < TheRtHonWeasel> I dunno
2008-05-20 08:28 < Lucifer_Cat> you are a pathetic excuse of a european
2008-05-20 08:28 < Lucifer_Cat> :P
2008-05-20 08:28 < Lucifer_Cat> for a *
2008-05-20 08:28 < TheRtHonWeasel> the animal?
2008-05-20 08:29 < Lucifer_Cat> damn.. anyways, gotta get ready
2008-05-20 08:29 < Lucifer_Cat> TheRtHonWeasel: i think so
2008-05-20 08:29 < TheRtHonWeasel> apparently "un phoque"
2008-05-20 08:29 < TheRtHonWeasel> but I had to look that up
2008-05-20 08:30 < Lucifer_Cat> fock?
2008-05-20 08:30 < Lucifer_Cat> Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
2008-05-20 08:30 < TheRtHonWeasel> *FUMP
2008-05-20 08:30 < TheRtHonWeasel> yea, "fock"
2008-05-20 08:31 < TheRtHonWeasel> Veuillez me donner un fock svp?
2008-05-20 08:31 < TheRtHonWeasel> could get you into quite a pickle
2008-05-20 08:32 * Werdna rolleyes
2008-05-20 08:34 * TheRtHonWeasel seals the deal
2008-05-20 08:34 * TheRtHonWeasel phoque l'affair
2008-05-20 08:34 < TheRtHonWeasel> *e
2008-05-20 08:39 < TheRtHonWeasel> *Dylan - I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) (1964)
2008-05-20 09:29 < pengo> stats seems to be down :(
2008-05-20 09:52 < nsh> someone please tell me the John McCain 2013 ad is a joke
2008-05-20 09:53 < pengo> sounds like the name of a sci fi movie
2008-05-20 09:59 < quanticle> Man, this place is boring in the mornings.
2008-05-20 10:00 < bbot> As a result, one of the most amazing pieces of literature to come out of the
2008-05-20 10:00 < bbot> X Consortium is the “Inter Client Communication Conventions Manual,”
2008-05-20 10:00 < bbot> more fondly known as the “ICCCM,” “Ice Cubed,” or “I39L” (short for “I,
2008-05-20 10:00 < bbot> 39 letters, L”).
2008-05-20 10:01 < cimon> quanticle: 17:00 over here, or 5 PM
2008-05-20 10:01 < nsh> i bet the person who came up with the "Ice Cubed" abbreviation felt very proud of it
2008-05-20 10:02 < quanticle> cimon: You Europeans don't count :P
2008-05-20 10:02 < cimon> heh, should call it "leol"
2008-05-20 10:03 < cimon> that would be obscure enough.
2008-05-20 10:03 < cimon> or rather "loel"
2008-05-20 10:04 < cimon> ICCCM being "1301" in reverse...
2008-05-20 10:04 < quanticle> Wait, what? How does ICCCM become 1301 in reverse?
2008-05-20 10:04 < cimon> MCCCI
2008-05-20 10:05 < quanticle> Yeah, but the zero is completely spurious.
2008-05-20 10:05 * cimon waits for the penny to drop.
2008-05-20 10:05 < quanticle> 131
2008-05-20 10:06 < bbot> cimon: That's less "obscure" and more "obfuscated"
2008-05-20 10:07 < cimon> granted
2008-05-20 10:09 < cimon> how about "intercontinental catenary claymore"?
2008-05-20 10:09 < cimon> bah poor fit. "ballistic" isn't reallly geometric...
2008-05-20 10:10 < cimon> though arguably catenary wasn't originally either, though that is the only remaining usage...
2008-05-20 10:10 < bbot> RyanTM: Quit quitting.
2008-05-20 10:11 < RyanTM> bbot: sorry
2008-05-20 10:11 < cimon> gtg, brb, supply run to the neighbourhood grocers.
2008-05-20 10:37 * Mm40 is back
2008-05-20 10:37 < quanticle> _o/
2008-05-20 10:39 < Mm40> Have u noticed that I've been gone for a few days?
2008-05-20 10:40 < Project2501> Mm40: only when the beer ran out
2008-05-20 10:41 < Mm40> lol
2008-05-20 10:41 < arcimboldo_> who is Mm40?
2008-05-20 10:41 < Mm40> me
2008-05-20 10:41 < Project2501> him
2008-05-20 10:41 < Mm40> User:Mm40
2008-05-20 10:41 < quanticle> Mm40: Well, not really, since I haven't been on #wikipedia much of late.
2008-05-20 10:41 < Mm40> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mm40
2008-05-20 10:41 < Mm40> *Sigh*
2008-05-20 10:41 < Project2501> Master Milf 40
2008-05-20 10:41 < Mm40> damn
2008-05-20 10:42 < Mm40> I haven't been vandalized yet...
2008-05-20 10:42 < quanticle> Mm40: So, in conclusion, no one noticed you're gone, confirming your sense of unimportance.
2008-05-20 10:42 < Mm40> yes
2008-05-20 10:42 < Mm40> exactly
2008-05-20 10:43 * Mm40 huggles quanticle
2008-05-20 10:43 < Mm40> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Technology&curid=29816&diff=213708882&oldid=213708610
2008-05-20 10:43 < Mm40> *Giggle*
2008-05-20 10:44 < Mm40> Is TylerPuetz around?
2008-05-20 10:46 < quanticle> Mm40: I haven't seen him in a while.
2008-05-20 10:46 < Mm40> u notice that he's been gone!
2008-05-20 10:47 < Mm40> =(
2008-05-20 10:47 < Mm40> joking
2008-05-20 10:51 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-05-20 10:51 < quanticle> Mm40: Well, to be fair, I only noticed that he was gone after you pointed it out.
2008-05-20 10:52 < Mm40> I know
2008-05-20 10:52 < quanticle> RINNNNNNNNNN!!!!
2008-05-20 10:52 < quanticle> :D
2008-05-20 10:53 < Rinn> QUANTICLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!!!!
2008-05-20 10:53 < Rinn> :D
2008-05-20 10:54 < Mm40> mM40000000000000000000000000000000000000!!!
2008-05-20 10:54 < Mm40> =DD
2008-05-20 11:00 < Mm40> grr
2008-05-20 11:00 < Mm40> My cable issued a required monthly test
2008-05-20 11:00 < Mm40> =)
2008-05-20 11:00 < quanticle> Heh. The OECD is looking at the "depletion of IPv4 addresses" - http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/OECD-Calls-For-Action-On-IP-Address-Depletion/?kc=EWKNLSTE052008FEA1
2008-05-20 11:01 < quanticle> "It's not a pretty picture. Now a long and drawn-out study on the subject from the OECD (Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development) asks many of the same questions and makes a predictable selection of suggestions, none of which will change the basic facts."
2008-05-20 11:09 < Krimpet> or, we could force companies like Halliburton to give back most of their /8's. -_-
2008-05-20 11:13 < bbot> Krimpet: There's enough unallocated ipspace that we don't need to start nationalizing private property.
2008-05-20 11:13 < bbot> http://xkcd.com/195/
2008-05-20 11:13 < Krimpet> numbers aren't private property. :p
2008-05-20 11:14 < bbot> hurf durf
2008-05-20 11:17 < bbot> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
2008-05-20 11:17 < bbot> 240-255 inclusive is "reserved for future use"
2008-05-20 11:18 < bbot> so that's 268,435,424 unallocated addresses
2008-05-20 11:32 < Species8472> how do I stripe out a line?
2008-05-20 11:32 < bbot> By bending your wrist backwards and pressing a button in the middle of your palm with your middle and ring fingers.
2008-05-20 11:33 < Species8472> thanks
2008-05-20 11:33 < bbot> No problem!
2008-05-20 11:33 < Species8472> do you have the real answer as well? The one being helpfull?
2008-05-20 11:33 < bbot> Of course not. I have no idea what you're talking about.
2008-05-20 11:34 < Species8472> well you can put a line through words, like this ----word---- <- but the line goes through the word.
2008-05-20 11:35 < IceKarma_> oh. "strikeout", for future reference. <s>foo</s>
2008-05-20 11:36 < Fire> hi
2008-05-20 11:36 < Species8472> thanks IceKarma_
2008-05-20 11:36 < IceKarma_> (if memory serves, that's not actually proper HTML, as I think the HTML tag is <strike>. I don't think I've ever used it, though, and I can't be bothered to look, so...)
2008-05-20 11:48 < quanticle> IceKarma: Well, canonically, you're not supposed to do it in HTML anymore; you're supposed to use CSS. But the HTML tag was <s>, as I recall.
2008-05-20 11:50 < Broooooooce> I have a moral dilema
2008-05-20 11:50 < Broooooooce> ethical really
2008-05-20 11:50 < Broooooooce> I've found only one source on a topic I wish to make a page for
2008-05-20 11:50 < Broooooooce> and most of me just wants to copy that text, sourced of course, into the article.
2008-05-20 11:51 < Broooooooce> I normally rewrite things and such
2008-05-20 11:51 < Broooooooce> but it's already the perfect size and relevance
2008-05-20 11:51 < Broooooooce> Should I rewrite it somehow anyway?
2008-05-20 11:51 < Werdna> WWJD?
2008-05-20 11:52 < Werdna> that's Jimmy, not Jesus
2008-05-20 11:52 < Werdna> Jesus was a whacko {{fact}}
2008-05-20 11:52 < Broooooooce> Get a divorce and never use edit summaries?
2008-05-20 11:52 < Broooooooce> *ducks*
2008-05-20 11:52 < Werdna> ooooooooh
2008-05-20 11:52 < Werdna> ouchypoo
2008-05-20 11:53 < Broooooooce> I know, I'll find a way to divide it into sections, and extract different sentences to their relevant sections and make it flow, that way it's not just some hatchet copy/paste job
2008-05-20 11:53 < Broooooooce> still sucks.
2008-05-20 11:54 < Werdna> rewrite it, dammit.
2008-05-20 11:54 < Broooooooce> I am . . .
2008-05-20 11:54 < Broooooooce> I just hate to murder the text as is
2008-05-20 11:57 < Lindberg47> hi
2008-05-20 11:57 < Lindberg47> what does 'curbside' mean?
2008-05-20 11:58 < MindstormsKid> umm...
2008-05-20 11:59 < MindstormsKid> "curbside trash pickup" is where they come get your garbage for you
2008-05-20 11:59 < Werdna> by the side of the curb.
2008-05-20 11:59 < MindstormsKid> that help?
2008-05-20 11:59 < MindstormsKid> :D
2008-05-20 12:01 < Lindberg47> 'x-ray machine area, which is located curbisde'
2008-05-20 12:02 < Lindberg47> please explain where it could be
2008-05-20 12:02 < Werdna> by the side of the curb
2008-05-20 12:02 < Lindberg47> it is in connection with an irport
2008-05-20 12:02 < MindstormsKid> O_o
2008-05-20 12:03 < Lindberg47> whar is a curb in this connection
2008-05-20 12:03 < Werdna> side of a road
2008-05-20 12:03 < Werdna> the gutter
2008-05-20 12:03 < Werdna> kerb
2008-05-20 12:03 < Werdna> whatever
2008-05-20 12:03 < regebro> Anybody know how to handle blockings/sock puppets? This guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Niall1234321 just got blocked, but evidently just created this account http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hehe12341 and continued. (See for example Democracy). It hasn't been blocked yet...
2008-05-20 12:04 < MindstormsKid> wimt_away
2008-05-20 12:04 < MindstormsKid> O_o
2008-05-20 12:04 < MindstormsKid> wimt? are you really away?
2008-05-20 12:07 < regebro> Should one put that type of guy into suspected sock puppets, or just try to block him for vandalism? It feels weird to call it "sock puppets" when all he does is write crap all over pages.
2008-05-20 12:08 < Lindberg47> what does 'far cry' mean?
2008-05-20 12:08 < haza-w> regebro: Was autoblock disabled on the original username block?
2008-05-20 12:08 < regebro> haza-w: I don't know, and I have no idea of how to figure that out. :)
2008-05-20 12:09 * Rinn cries far
2008-05-20 12:09 < Vampier> hi
2008-05-20 12:09 < Vampier> is nudity allowed on wikipedia?
2008-05-20 12:09 < haza-w> regebro: Was the original block as a result of AIV reporting?
2008-05-20 12:10 < haza-w> Vampier: Wikipedia is not censored for minors... what's the page/image you're querying?
2008-05-20 12:10 < Rinn> Vampier: [[Autofellatio]] You tell me.
2008-05-20 12:10 < Vampier> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Amy_with_dildo.jpg
2008-05-20 12:10 < Vampier> :P
2008-05-20 12:11 < haza-w> Vampier: Yes. The image is on Commons under a compatible license, and its inclusion doesn't violate any Wikipedia policies.
2008-05-20 12:12 < Vampier> true
2008-05-20 12:12 < Vampier> and it clearly displays a dildo ans it's uses
2008-05-20 12:12 < Vampier> I agree
2008-05-20 12:12 < regebro> haza-w: Yes, it was.
2008-05-20 12:12 < regebro> Should I add the new user name to the AIV page, maybe?
2008-05-20 12:13 < haza-w> regebro: What I meant was that you can check the page history to see what parameters the block was made under. The AIV helperbot flags the block parameters when each user is removed.
2008-05-20 12:14 < haza-w> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Niall1234321 suggests that autoblock was not disabled, and that the user shouldn't be able to create any new accounts... which would suggest that the second account had been created previously, or the user's IP has changed.
2008-05-20 12:15 < regebro> haza-w Ah, I see,
2008-05-20 12:16 < wimt_away> If the IP had been previously anon-only blocked, that would stop the autoblock working too.
2008-05-20 12:18 < regebro> haza-w: Ah, I see. In fact, the new account was created at 14:14, and he was blocked at 14:14, so difficult to say which. :)
2008-05-20 12:23 < regebro> Meh, this is to complicated. Somebody else get to take care of that vandal. :)
2008-05-20 12:40 < cimon> um. I am back. doon't know how to make pidgin know that though...
2008-05-20 12:43 < cimon> um, did I just turn green on others?
2008-05-20 12:44 < Broooooooce> what's the fastest way to get geo coordinates for an address?
2008-05-20 12:44 < cimon> Broooooooce: how accurate?
2008-05-20 12:45 < cimon> What instruments do you have at hand?
2008-05-20 12:45 < cimon> thet is a classic open ended question.
2008-05-20 12:46 < cimon> Fastest in general is to ask somebody who knows them...
2008-05-20 12:47 < Broooooooce> Um, I have a web browser
2008-05-20 12:47 < cimon> Usually you get an instant reply, unless they are pissed at you, or have another reason to delay or keep from responding....
2008-05-20 12:47 < Broooooooce> and need the rough coordinates for 114 Rice Street, Little rock, Arkanasas
2008-05-20 12:47 < cimon> okay, so let me help yoyu...
2008-05-20 12:50 < cimon> Broooooooce: quite likely you could have gotten this info faster via another route, but as long as you aren't dead set on the "fastest way" bit of your question....
2008-05-20 12:50 < cimon> ?
2008-05-20 12:51 < cimon> Broooooooce: I do need some sort of response here though, or I won't go forward...
2008-05-20 12:55 < Broooooooce> im sorry
2008-05-20 12:55 < Broooooooce> got called afk
2008-05-20 12:56 < Broooooooce> laundry ;D
2008-05-20 12:56 < quanticle> Broooooooce: You're on the internet - you don't need clean clothes...
2008-05-20 12:56 < Broooooooce> Is there not a website that converts addresses
2008-05-20 12:56 < Broooooooce> ?
2008-05-20 12:57 < Mahlzahn> quanticle: You're on the internet - you don't need clothes...
2008-05-20 12:58 < quanticle> Mahlzahn: True.
2008-05-20 12:58 < quanticle> Mahlzahn: On the other hand, it is a bit chilly here to be without clothes.
2008-05-20 12:58 < Mahlzahn> loser! :)
2008-05-20 12:59 * Mahlzahn basks in the warm May breeze
2008-05-20 12:59 < Mahlzahn> too warm almost
2008-05-20 12:59 * quanticle shivers in the cold May breeze
2008-05-20 12:59 < quanticle> It only got to about fifty degrees F here yesterday.
2008-05-20 13:00 < quanticle> I was running outside in shorts and a t-shirt, and I was chilled by the time I got back home.
2008-05-20 13:01 < Mahlzahn> wtf is 50 degrees F? Simple math please. :)
2008-05-20 13:01 < Mahlzahn> like Kelvin. :)
2008-05-20 13:10 < quanticle> Mahlzahn: 50 degrees Fahrenheit = 283.15 kelvin
2008-05-20 13:10 * quanticle prefers a temp of 300K even
2008-05-20 13:11 < Mahlzahn> 50 F == ~10 degrees C. Thats nippy.
2008-05-20 13:14 < quanticle> "The problem for economists is that the market for oil is so complicated that we cannot very accurately calculate what the price of oil “should be” if there is no bubble. We have to read the entrails to figure out whether the price is really reflecting market fundamentals – demand, supply, real interest rates – or has a bubble component."
2008-05-20 13:31 < Lucifer_Cat> sup
2008-05-20 13:33 < Lucifer_Cat> {{current events}}
2008-05-20 13:33 < Lindberg47> is 'Shasi ' a boys name?
2008-05-20 13:34 < Broooooooce> argh
2008-05-20 13:34 < Broooooooce> I cant get the coordinates for this location to work
2008-05-20 13:34 < Broooooooce> does anyone have a simple way to turn a google maps url into coordinates?
2008-05-20 13:35 < Lucifer_Cat> Lindberg47: Shashi is
2008-05-20 13:35 < Lucifer_Cat> and some could spell it shasi too though
2008-05-20 13:35 < quanticle> Hello Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-20 13:35 < Lucifer_Cat> also, depends what ethnicity
2008-05-20 13:36 < Lucifer_Cat> hey quant
2008-05-20 13:36 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Its your turn in our chess game
2008-05-20 13:36 < Lindberg47> ok, but sasha is a girls name?
2008-05-20 13:36 < Lucifer_Cat> Lindberg47 quanticle : yes
2008-05-20 13:37 < Lindberg47> hard to hear
2008-05-20 13:38 < Lucifer_Cat> what
2008-05-20 13:38 < Lindberg47> Elisa - girl?
2008-05-20 13:39 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah
2008-05-20 13:39 < Lucifer_Cat> dk = ?
2008-05-20 13:39 < Lucifer_Cat> denmark?
2008-05-20 13:41 < denelson83> No, dk = don't know
2008-05-20 13:41 < denelson83> :p
2008-05-20 13:44 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/blog/chicken-little-and-kooks-who-dont-know-what-theyre-talking-about
2008-05-20 13:46 < Lucifer_Cat> i thought he was an insufferable smartass desi dude before this...
2008-05-20 13:47 < Lucifer_Cat> now i think i would get along really well with this guy if i knew him in person
2008-05-20 13:48 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: i moved
2008-05-20 13:50 * Lucifer_Cat just had the best damn omlette he ever made
2008-05-20 13:52 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: are you moving in next 5 mins or should i head back to work?
2008-05-20 13:53 < gwern> I find some objections to wikipedia funny
2008-05-20 13:53 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Moved
2008-05-20 13:54 < gwern> 'I only use wikipedia for background or as a starting point; I'd never rely on it.' 'I only read playboy for the articles'
2008-05-20 13:55 < gwern> '(That reminds me of a scene in Lois McMaster Bujold's A Civil Campaign, in which a biochemist decides to rewrite the abstract to his dissertation in sonnet form. “Can you think of a word to rhyme with glyoxylate?”'
2008-05-20 13:55 < Lucifer_Cat> heh nice move. theres gonna be a lot of blodshed very soon.
2008-05-20 13:57 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: check out uncyc
2008-05-20 13:57 < Lucifer_Cat> the chan that is
2008-05-20 13:57 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat!
2008-05-20 13:57 < Shiroi_Neko> ?
2008-05-20 13:57 < Lucifer_Cat> FAT_CAT
2008-05-20 13:57 < Shiroi_Neko> Ohayo Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-20 13:58 < Lucifer_Cat> Ohio White_Cat
2008-05-20 13:58 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Raul
2008-05-20 13:58 < Ceiling_Cat> we need to talk
2008-05-20 13:58 < Lucifer_Cat> oooo
2008-05-20 13:58 < Lucifer_Cat> hes gonna break up
2008-05-20 13:58 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat okay
2008-05-20 13:58 < Ceiling_Cat> I told you that if you look at ceiling_Cat, god kills a million humans
2008-05-20 13:58 < Ceiling_Cat> you said you pre-paid in burma and china
2008-05-20 13:58 < Shiroi_Neko> yes
2008-05-20 13:58 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-20 13:58 < Ceiling_Cat> last I heard, there were only ~200,000 fatalaties
2008-05-20 13:58 < Ceiling_Cat> you owe me 800,000 dead humans
2008-05-20 13:58 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat dont worry
2008-05-20 13:58 < Lucifer_Cat> rofl
2008-05-20 13:58 < Shiroi_Neko> I had a call from the burmaniese government
2008-05-20 13:59 < Lucifer_Cat> thanks Ceiling_Cat, you made this lunch break totally worth it
2008-05-20 13:59 < Shiroi_Neko> the government assure me that they will get at least another 800,000 people killed through their incompetence
2008-05-20 13:59 < Lucifer_Cat> but Ceiling_Cat, i has a bunch invested in returns from AIDS doesnt he
2008-05-20 13:59 < Ceiling_Cat> Shiroi_Neko - I hope so, for your sake
2008-05-20 13:59 < Ceiling_Cat> the interest is ticking
2008-05-20 13:59 < Ceiling_Cat> next week, it'll be 850,000
2008-05-20 13:59 < Shiroi_Neko> I am a cat
2008-05-20 13:59 < Lucifer_Cat> he*
2008-05-20 14:00 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat bear in mind thats the anounced number of dead
2008-05-20 14:00 < Ceiling_Cat> luc- I'm glad I could make your lunch break work it :)
2008-05-20 14:00 < Shiroi_Neko> the actual number is different
2008-05-20 14:00 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat *
2008-05-20 14:00 * Lucifer_Cat haz track of all dead n00bz.
2008-05-20 14:00 < Lucifer_Cat> which is about the only ones you can count.
2008-05-20 14:00 * Dendodge is a dead noob
2008-05-20 14:01 * Ceiling_Cat huggles the body
2008-05-20 14:01 < quanticle> Lucifer_
2008-05-20 14:01 < Lucifer_Cat> the ones going upstairs have been pre-claimed by Her under an earlier arrangement.
2008-05-20 14:01 < quanticle> Cat
2008-05-20 14:01 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: you moved again didnt you
2008-05-20 14:01 < Ceiling_Cat> This channel NEEDZ MAOR DRAMA
2008-05-20 14:01 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Speaking of dead n00bs, you should look at your rook
2008-05-20 14:01 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Yes, I just moved.
2008-05-20 14:02 < Lucifer_Cat> STFU QUANTICLE
2008-05-20 14:03 < Lucifer_Cat> convert that pawn now.
2008-05-20 14:03 < Lucifer_Cat> i prefer you convert it into that older queen of narnia. so my rook can fuggle her.
2008-05-20 14:04 < Lucifer_Cat> ugh, this sucks. i /NEED/ to find some decent gals around this city. i sound like a 17 year old
2008-05-20 14:05 < Lucifer_Cat> wait, did the dircnoob just unban On`
2008-05-20 14:05 < Lucifer_Cat> Shiroi_Neko, Ceiling_Cat : i have the latest figures here, the actual dead accounted for in here - 500,000
2008-05-20 14:05 < gwern> I CAN FEEL THE BLOOD IN MY BRAIN
2008-05-20 14:06 < Lucifer_Cat> so, he only owes you 500,000
2008-05-20 14:06 * Ceiling_Cat feels gwern's brain
2008-05-20 14:06 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: i have transferred the 500K into your 401K
2008-05-20 14:06 < Lucifer_Cat> you should see them in next statement period
2008-05-20 14:06 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat for a second I thought you were going to have a geniune conversation wit me :)
2008-05-20 14:07 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - what form of currency is that? Dollars? Francs? Beads? Dead humans? Cats?
2008-05-20 14:07 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-20 14:07 < Ceiling_Cat> Shiroi_Neko - :)
2008-05-20 14:07 < Lucifer_Cat> and as for the balance, Shiroi_Neko, this would be a good time to convert some of the interest + stock options from AIDS.
2008-05-20 14:07 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: dead humans what else
2008-05-20 14:07 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Moved.
2008-05-20 14:09 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-20 14:09 < Shiroi_Neko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/75.164.189.135
2008-05-20 14:09 < Lucifer_Cat> Shiroi_Neko: you can always recoup/buy back that when the next "AIDS cure"news break out
2008-05-20 14:11 < Lucifer_Cat> ahh time to head back... its a looong commute
2008-05-20 14:11 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/68.39.174.238]]
2008-05-20 14:11 < Ceiling_Cat> O.o
2008-05-20 14:11 < Lucifer_Cat> all of 5 minutes , in which i will travel a distance of under 2 miles.
2008-05-20 14:11 < Ceiling_Cat> o.O
2008-05-20 14:13 < Lucifer_Cat> that was at the RFA or at my commute?
2008-05-20 14:13 < yao_ziyua1> VIDEO: russian opposition leader Kasparov attacked by a penis robo copter from pro-Putin youth activists
2008-05-20 14:13 < yao_ziyua1> http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/05/pro-kremlin-sup.html
2008-05-20 14:13 < Lindberg47> could you say this in correct english: She also criticizes one of the things Shasi Tharoor was dissatisfied with, namely the security staff’s body search
2008-05-20 14:14 < Lindberg47> new one: "She criticizes also one of the things Shasi Tharoor was dissatisfied with, namely the security staff’s handling of body search"
2008-05-20 14:15 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Moved
2008-05-20 14:15 < Lucifer_Cat> yao_ziyua1: awesome
2008-05-20 14:16 < Lucifer_Cat> later gator
2008-05-20 14:17 < Lucifer_Cat> "Order Confirmation - NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC" woot
2008-05-20 14:17 < Lucifer_Cat> that does it for my entertainment budget for this month.
2008-05-20 14:17 < Lucifer_Cat> cya later.
2008-05-20 14:49 < Mm40> !Admin backlog at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage
2008-05-20 14:50 < bumm13> that's nice...
2008-05-20 14:52 < Mm40> done
2008-05-20 14:53 < Mm40> nm
2008-05-20 14:53 < Mm40> wrong tab
2008-05-20 14:54 < Phoenixwi> ultimate feelgood song...
2008-05-20 14:55 < bumm13> so is this:
2008-05-20 14:55 * bumm13 NP: Silverchair - Tomorrow (1995)
2008-05-20 14:55 < bumm13> ;)
2008-05-20 14:58 < Mm40> are any admins gonna clear the backlog?
2008-05-20 14:58 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Catyou look at that checkuser thing?
2008-05-20 14:59 < jocke> "Along with the works of Leo Tolstoy, Fyodor Dostoevsky has written some most famous Russian litrature to come out of Russia." Is that _grammatically_ correct?
2008-05-20 15:00 < jocke> oops litterature, but except that.
2008-05-20 15:00 < Mm40> wat is the article?
2008-05-20 15:00 < Mm40> I think grammar-wise, it is
2008-05-20 15:01 < Dendodge> I think it sound like Tolstoy and Dostoyexsky wrote it _with_ him
2008-05-20 15:01 < gwern> jocke: no
2008-05-20 15:01 < jocke> okay
2008-05-20 15:01 < jocke> thanks
2008-05-20 15:01 < Dendodge> *Dostoyevski
2008-05-20 15:01 < jocke> yeah
2008-05-20 15:01 < gwern> the problem is, as written it sounds like 'the works of Leo Tolstory' and 'Fyodor Dostoevksy' have written russia's most famous literature
2008-05-20 15:02 < gwern> last I heard, the works of Leo Tolstoy had not acheived sentience :)
2008-05-20 15:02 < Dendodge> lol
2008-05-20 15:02 < gwern> not to mention - 'most famous Russian literature to come out of Russia'?
2008-05-20 15:03 < Iban> As apposed to the most famous Russian literature to come out of Cuba?
2008-05-20 15:03 * gwern tries to talk the works of Philip K. Dick into taking their pills
2008-05-20 15:03 < Iban> Gwern, show tits.
2008-05-20 15:03 < bumm13> hmm...."Sen. Edward Kennedy has malignant brain tumor"
2008-05-20 15:03 < gwern> Iban: well, sure, everyone's heard of, er, _The Devil and (his) Margarita_, right?
2008-05-20 15:04 < gwern> bumm13: so that's what caused the stroke thingy?
2008-05-20 15:05 * gwern ponders the cleverness of _The Devil and (his) Margarita_. not bad for such an off the cuff remark; The Devil and Magarita is one of the most famous Russian works, after all
2008-05-20 15:05 * Dendodge pokes his brother
2008-05-20 15:06 < Messedrocker> the story ends with the devil's consumption of the margarita
2008-05-20 15:06 < Messedrocker> and his subsequent intoxication
2008-05-20 15:07 < gwern> Messedrocker: I thought it as a tragedy in which the firstborn wastes away in margaritaville (looking for some sodium chloride he misplaced)
2008-05-20 15:08 < Messedrocker> i prefer francium chloride
2008-05-20 15:10 < gwern> oh sure, do you think the devil's made of money?
2008-05-20 15:10 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-05-20 15:10 < Messedrocker> literally, too
2008-05-20 15:14 < Messedrocker> can someone change my wikipedia username to ∆
2008-05-20 15:15 < bumm13> is that a Latin letter?
2008-05-20 15:19 < Shiroi_Neko> Alpha
2008-05-20 15:19 < Shiroi_Neko> no
2008-05-20 15:19 < Shiroi_Neko> delta
2008-05-20 15:19 < crazybanana> List of most populous cities
2008-05-20 15:19 < Shiroi_Neko> Lists of useless lists
2008-05-20 15:20 < Messedrocker> more like Useless lists of cities
2008-05-20 15:20 < crazybanana> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_by_population
2008-05-20 15:20 < crazybanana> Apparently it is Eurovision song contest right now on TV.
2008-05-20 15:20 < crazybanana> They have started having several semi-finals and crap?
2008-05-20 15:20 < Messedrocker> so was a song about sex with 13 year olds
2008-05-20 15:20 < Shiroi_Neko> List of Messedrockers
2008-05-20 15:21 < crazybanana> Messedrocker: Where? What?
2008-05-20 15:21 < Shiroi_Neko> sex with 13 year olds?
2008-05-20 15:21 < Shiroi_Neko> Messedrocker that is actualy legal
2008-05-20 15:21 < Shiroi_Neko> provided you are below 13
2008-05-20 15:21 < Shiroi_Neko> :P
2008-05-20 15:21 < crazybanana> What if you are 56?
2008-05-20 15:22 < Shiroi_Neko> 5+6 = 11 < 13
2008-05-20 15:22 < Shiroi_Neko> works
2008-05-20 15:22 < crazybanana> 99 = 9 + 9 = 18.
2008-05-20 15:22 < bumm13> meowf!
2008-05-20 15:22 < Shiroi_Neko> right 99 is just too old
2008-05-20 15:23 < crazybanana> So... New York City is fucking huge, huh?
2008-05-20 15:23 < Shiroi_Neko> the sum of the person screwing the child must not exeed 100
2008-05-20 15:23 < mattbuck> humm
2008-05-20 15:23 < crazybanana> NYC seems to be the place to pick if you want to limit yourself geographically.
2008-05-20 15:23 < bumm13> no, not at all
2008-05-20 15:23 < crazybanana> For a business.
2008-05-20 15:23 < mattbuck> there is a guy arguing on Talk:Wikipedia that 253 < 236
2008-05-20 15:23 < crazybanana> And get tons of business.
2008-05-20 15:23 < crazybanana> Even the most obscure shop in NYC must get tons of business.
2008-05-20 15:23 < Shiroi_Neko> crazybanana false conception
2008-05-20 15:24 < Shiroi_Neko> the business model works only if you get net profit
2008-05-20 15:24 < crazybanana> :S
2008-05-20 15:24 < Shiroi_Neko> the amount of money that goes to thugs and gangs as well as police and the government exeeds profit
2008-05-20 15:24 < Shiroi_Neko> but you cant sell your shop
2008-05-20 15:24 < crazybanana> Hmm...
2008-05-20 15:24 < crazybanana> Solving a murder must indeed be hell there.
2008-05-20 15:25 < Shiroi_Neko> actualy it isnt
2008-05-20 15:25 < crazybanana> I wonder how often two people that don't know each other see each other in NYC.
2008-05-20 15:25 < crazybanana> (With or without knowing it.)
2008-05-20 15:25 < Shiroi_Neko> crazybanana they do not see each other
2008-05-20 15:26 < Shiroi_Neko> new yorkers are all sockpuppets
2008-05-20 15:26 < bumm13> as in the entirety of the five boroughs?
2008-05-20 15:26 < crazybanana> Dunno...
2008-05-20 15:26 < Phoenixwi> mattbuck
2008-05-20 15:26 < Messedrocker> crazybanana, probably often if two people share a common route to work, for example
2008-05-20 15:26 < crazybanana> I suppose the whole thing.
2008-05-20 15:26 < Phoenixwi> you don't get it, do you?
2008-05-20 15:26 < bumm13> Messedrocker: in that case, yes
2008-05-20 15:26 < bumm13> otherwise....
2008-05-20 15:26 < bumm13> NYC itself has, what, about 10 million people? or more?
2008-05-20 15:27 < Messedrocker> 8 mil
2008-05-20 15:27 < crazybanana> 8,214,426
2008-05-20 15:27 < crazybanana> 200,000 is enough to make a decent big city ;)
2008-05-20 15:27 < crazybanana> 8 million people more is like many countries...
2008-05-20 15:27 < crazybanana> Denmark and Finland and Norway each have 5 million.
2008-05-20 15:28 < bumm13> ah yes, 8,214,426
2008-05-20 15:28 < crazybanana> Getting an apartment there must be impossible.
2008-05-20 15:28 < crazybanana> Unless you are very rich.
2008-05-20 15:29 < bumm13> Manhattan (the postal NYC and coterminous with New York County) has 1,611,581 by itself
2008-05-20 15:29 < bumm13> crazybanana: not a shitty one ;p
2008-05-20 15:29 < crazybanana> Hmm...
2008-05-20 15:30 < crazybanana> How can so many people fit in such small space?
2008-05-20 15:30 < crazybanana> They must be going bananas+
2008-05-20 15:30 < bumm13> hint: stories ;)
2008-05-20 15:30 < crazybanana> Levels, you mean
2008-05-20 15:30 < crazybanana> ?
2008-05-20 15:30 < bumm13> it's a fact that not all of the people in NYC can be at ground level at the same time
2008-05-20 15:30 < crazybanana> Well... still.
2008-05-20 15:30 < bumm13> whatever :-p
2008-05-20 15:31 < crazybanana> The streets should be packed with folks all the time :S
2008-05-20 15:31 < bumm13> they are
2008-05-20 15:31 < bumm13> (mostly)
2008-05-20 15:31 < crazybanana> Why do people wanna live there?
2008-05-20 15:31 < bumm13> I dunno, as I don't live there
2008-05-20 15:31 < crazybanana> It would be awesome to visit, but not to live permanently...
2008-05-20 15:31 < crazybanana> Seinfeld and friends seemed to have a good time, though...
2008-05-20 15:31 < bumm13> it has plenty of poorer people who really can't afford to leave if they wanted to
2008-05-20 15:32 < crazybanana> I wonder how much that series contributed to people moving there...
2008-05-20 15:32 < bumm13> and that often spans generations
2008-05-20 15:32 < bumm13> probably very little
2008-05-20 15:32 < crazybanana> Hmm...
2008-05-20 15:32 < bumm13> it already attracts enough people on its own
2008-05-20 15:33 < crazybanana> Sad when they regularly find corpses that have been sitting in a chair for 4 years...
2008-05-20 15:33 < crazybanana> With auto-paying bills...
2008-05-20 15:33 < crazybanana> And the TV on...
2008-05-20 15:33 < bumm13> heehee
2008-05-20 15:33 < bumm13> another result of good ol' unchecked capitalism ;p
2008-05-20 15:34 < crazybanana> I can't even explain why it is sad...
2008-05-20 15:34 < bumm13> and corporation-states
2008-05-20 15:34 < crazybanana> You'd think that SOMEBODY would... uh... have some sort of reason of wanting to get into the apartment.
2008-05-20 15:34 < crazybanana> Can you really be away for years unexpectedly and not have your identity... um... questioned?
2008-05-20 15:34 < bumm13> well, they're probably junky apartments to begin with
2008-05-20 15:35 < bbot> Sure a lot of.... periods in this channel.
2008-05-20 15:35 < crazybanana> Possibly...
2008-05-20 15:35 < bbot> If you know what I... mean.
2008-05-20 15:35 < bumm13> so the landlord probably sits in his apartment high on crack all day ;p
2008-05-20 15:35 < bbot> Wink wink, nudge... nudge.
2008-05-20 15:35 < crazybanana> How do such people get to be landlords anyway?
2008-05-20 15:35 < bumm13> fills a vacuum
2008-05-20 15:36 < bumm13> they are first to offer and get paid some money, so it happens
2008-05-20 15:36 < bumm13> nothing glamorous
2008-05-20 15:36 < crazybanana> Hmm...
2008-05-20 15:36 < crazybanana> First to offer? Don't they have to own the whole building?