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2008-05-19 16:43 < Rinn> No.
2008-05-19 16:45 < Alkivar> http://www.gadget4all.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00167 <-- LOL
2008-05-19 16:45 < Alkivar> i <3 the japanese
2008-05-19 16:47 < Alkivar> ps... OWWW MY BRAIN: http://www.gadget4all.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00138&dept_id=&cat_id=004
2008-05-19 16:47 < NonvocalScream> Alkivar I'm tempted to purchase it. Its so cute.
2008-05-19 16:48 < gwern> heck of a rubik's cube
2008-05-19 16:48 < quanticle> Alkivar: What the heck? Is that an R2D2 inside a bag of chips?
2008-05-19 16:49 < Messedrocker> NonvocalScream, more like a rubik's pentahedron
2008-05-19 16:49 < NonvocalScream> no...
2008-05-19 16:49 < quanticle> Whoa. Its like a Rubiks decagon
2008-05-19 16:49 < NonvocalScream> the dancing chips
2008-05-19 16:49 < NonvocalScream> The pentahedron will hurt my mind :(
2008-05-19 16:50 < NonvocalScream> For fun, I'm going to start wikifying my chat.
2008-05-19 16:50 < gwern> 'When I ask Doni Fordyce at L-1 about the embargo, she tells me, "I don't know anything about that." Asked whether she would like to find out about it and call me back, she replies, "I really don't want to comment, so there is no comment." Then she hangs up.'
2008-05-19 16:51 < gwern> hee hee
2008-05-19 16:51 * gwern writes an article on L-1
2008-05-19 16:52 < gwern> 'By next year, the Chinese internal-security market will be worth an estimated $33 billion — around the same amount Congress has allocated for reconstructing Iraq.'
2008-05-19 16:53 < gwern> '"If you walk out of this building, you will be under surveillance in five to six different ways," he says, staring at me hard. He lets the implication of his words linger in the air like an unspoken threat. "If you are a law-abiding citizen, you shouldn't be afraid," he finally adds. "The criminals are the only ones who should be afraid."'
2008-05-19 16:54 < Alkivar> must be a slow news day: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2008-05-19-computer-dog-barks_N.htm?csp=34
2008-05-19 16:55 < gwern> 'China is becoming more like us in very visible ways (Starbucks, Hooters, cellphones that are cooler than ours), and we are becoming more like China in less visible ones (torture, warrantless wiretapping, indefinite detention, though not nearly on the Chinese scale).'
2008-05-19 16:55 < quanticle> gwern: Source for the first quote?
2008-05-19 16:56 < gwern> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/20797485/chinas_allseeing_eye/print
2008-05-19 16:58 < Alkivar> oooh i cant wait for people to start using these... i'll be able to go anywhere LOL: http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/19/schlage-announces-web-enabled-z-wave-door-locks/
2008-05-19 16:59 < Alkivar> way to ruin physical security
2008-05-19 17:00 * Messedrocker throws a red shell at alkivar
2008-05-19 17:00 < gwern> I have no problem with remotely locking - since it's failsafe - but remote unlocking? yeah, that's a *great* idea...
2008-05-19 17:00 * Messedrocker throws a blue shell at Alkivar's online unlocking system
2008-05-19 17:01 * Messedrocker enters Alkivar's house and steals his albums
2008-05-19 17:04 < Alkivar> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/upgrade/4263421.html <-- NERF wars will never be the same
2008-05-19 17:04 < Messedrocker> oh god it has a belt of rounds
2008-05-19 17:05 < Messedrocker> you think video games are training for violence in real life?
2008-05-19 17:06 < Messedrocker> jackie thompson should be more interested in these nerf guns
2008-05-19 17:07 < TheRtHonWeasel> hm...on from Hutu and Tutsi to Hooter's and Tootsie
2008-05-19 17:07 < EvanCarroll> Does anyone have a link to the wikitext parser source?
2008-05-19 17:08 < EvanCarroll> or know if there was ever a movement to standardize wikitext or forge a lib for parsing it
2008-05-19 17:10 < Monobi> :-O
2008-05-19 17:11 < Messedrocker> Monobi if cops were to come from the free market would they be constitutional?
2008-05-19 17:11 < Monobi> Messedrocker, no
2008-05-19 17:11 < Monobi> Messedrocker, assuming they enter others property, no
2008-05-19 17:11 < gwern> EvanCarroll: plenty of movements
2008-05-19 17:11 < Monobi> Now, if they guard and patrol the property of the individual who's hired them, that'd be just fine
2008-05-19 17:14 < Dendodge> wtf?
2008-05-19 17:14 < bumm13> some guy's unoffensive nickname triggered autorem
2008-05-19 17:15 < quanticle> Hey Monobi, when did you get unbanned?
2008-05-19 17:16 < Ziggy_Sawdust> NANANANANANANANA KATAMARI DAMACY
2008-05-19 17:16 < Monobi> I don't know
2008-05-19 17:16 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Banned whar?
2008-05-19 17:16 < Monobi> quanticle, I haven't been on the internet since friday
2008-05-19 17:16 < Messedrocker> who remembers Antibuddha?
2008-05-19 17:16 < bumm13> _o/
2008-05-19 17:17 < bumm13> what about him?
2008-05-19 17:17 < Messedrocker> "_o/" looks like someone directing trains
2008-05-19 17:17 < Messedrocker> i just thought of him is all
2008-05-19 17:17 < bumm13> I kind of banned him from here ;p
2008-05-19 17:17 < quanticle> bumm13: What was antibuddha banned for? Generalized trolling?
2008-05-19 17:17 < bumm13> no, specific trolling actually
2008-05-19 17:17 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-05-19 17:17 < bumm13> about how bad Wikipedia obviously is
2008-05-19 17:18 < quanticle> bumm13: Oh. He was one of those.
2008-05-19 17:18 < bumm13> yeah
2008-05-19 17:18 < Messedrocker> this song is WHICKIN AWESOME
2008-05-19 17:19 < jocke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire#before-after Where is it supposed that you shall come when pressing that? I don't come anywhere. It is on all pages with a state that no longer exists and you can see what states was created after it.
2008-05-19 17:21 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ha
2008-05-19 17:24 < CrazyChemGuy> I think that instead of edit counts, wikipedians' relative worth and/or the userboxes they put all over their userpages should be judged by the number of google hits each gets for their username.
2008-05-19 17:24 < The359> Their worth isn't determined by their edit count
2008-05-19 17:25 < CrazyChemGuy> Lies, have you ever been to RfA
2008-05-19 17:25 < The359> yes
2008-05-19 17:25 < CrazyChemGuy> I almost cried, somebody lost because they didn't have enough Wikipedia Talk edits not long ago.
2008-05-19 17:25 < CrazyChemGuy> It's terrible.
2008-05-19 17:25 < CrazyChemGuy> And I was being humorous, anyway.
2008-05-19 17:27 < WBOSITG> lol
2008-05-19 17:27 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Okay.
2008-05-19 17:27 < Ziggy_Sawdust> You know what?
2008-05-19 17:27 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Manga sucks.
2008-05-19 17:27 < Ziggy_Sawdust> That's it.
2008-05-19 17:27 < Ziggy_Sawdust> It just sucks massive simian gonads
2008-05-19 17:27 < jimius> :O
2008-05-19 17:27 < Ziggy_Sawdust> and that's all that can be said
2008-05-19 17:27 < crazybanana> What should wpStarttime and wpEdittime be set to?
2008-05-19 17:27 * Ziggy_Sawdust picks up an issue of Deadpool
2008-05-19 17:27 < jimius> a whole medium sucks
2008-05-19 17:28 < Ziggy_Sawdust> crazybanana: Your mom.
2008-05-19 17:29 < CharlotteWebb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_professional_sports'_frequent_use_of_letter_Z_in_team_names
2008-05-19 17:29 < CharlotteWebb> beautiful
2008-05-19 17:30 < CharlotteWebb> articles like this are what make wikipedia special
2008-05-19 17:30 < CharlotteWebb> almost restores my faith in the project
2008-05-19 17:31 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ...
2008-05-19 17:31 < Ziggy_Sawdust> what the fuck...
2008-05-19 17:31 < Ziggy_Sawdust> XD
2008-05-19 17:35 < Ziggy_Sawdust> CREAM
2008-05-19 17:36 * quanticle going home
2008-05-19 17:36 < Cream> Ziggy_Sawdust :D
2008-05-19 17:37 * quanticle|away NP: Paul Oakenfold: Live at Creamfields
2008-05-19 17:37 < OverlordQ> wut?
2008-05-19 17:45 < matthew> In 1.12.0, the left-most link in the top/horizontal links has a div class of "selected" while the others to the right do not... Is this a bug?
2008-05-19 17:46 < matthew> examples.. http://wikidev.wsu.edu/wsuwiki
2008-05-19 17:47 < matthew> In this example, the upper left link doesn't show.. but you can highlight over it to see that it is there.. it's PAGE
2008-05-19 17:47 < matthew> The css is messed up..
2008-05-19 17:49 < Broooooooce> hooray, ED AFD closed :D
2008-05-19 17:50 < Mahlzahn> matthew: check your class="selected"
2008-05-19 17:50 < gwern> another encyclopedia dramatica afd?
2008-05-19 17:51 < bumm13> matthew: you're a student at Wash. State?
2008-05-19 17:51 < Broooooooce> gwern yes-a hilarious beast of an AFD, the longest I've EVER seen.
2008-05-19 17:51 < Soxred93> Was it keep?
2008-05-19 17:51 < Broooooooce> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Encyclopedia_Dramatica_%282nd_nomination%29
2008-05-19 17:52 < gwern> <hope not
2008-05-19 17:52 < Broooooooce> Keep
2008-05-19 17:52 < Soxred93> Damn.
2008-05-19 17:52 < bumm13> geez
2008-05-19 17:52 < Broooooooce> ha
2008-05-19 17:53 * bumm13 NP: Soul Coughing - Screenwriter's Blues (1994)
2008-05-19 17:56 < Ziggy_Sawdust> http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1951/monkeylol1oi4pw0pdna8.jpg
2008-05-19 17:59 < matthew> bumm13: not a student..
2008-05-19 18:00 < bumm13> ahh
2008-05-19 18:00 < bumm13> faculty?
2008-05-19 18:01 < matthew> Mahlzahn: the problem is that only the link on the left has class="selected" and not the other links to the right.
2008-05-19 18:01 < matthew> bumm13: staff.....
2008-05-19 18:01 < bumm13> well, ok :)
2008-05-19 18:01 < matthew> bumm13: we are a middle-breed.
2008-05-19 18:01 < bumm13> heh, yeah
2008-05-19 18:01 < matthew> bumm13: are u a wsu student?
2008-05-19 18:01 < bumm13> nope
2008-05-19 18:01 < bumm13> I was once (briefly) a CWU student though
2008-05-19 18:02 < Mahlzahn> matthew: they do if you select one of them. (eg "Discussion")
2008-05-19 18:02 < matthew> Mahlzahn: ah.. I see... that's why it's different.. ok.. not a bug.
2008-05-19 18:02 < cimon> http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/05/democrats_launc.html
2008-05-19 18:02 < matthew> bumm13: you are the apple core, then...
2008-05-19 18:03 < bumm13> several people I went to school with went to WSU, though
2008-05-19 18:03 < Enok|Walker> best day evar
2008-05-19 18:03 < bumm13> as in, between the two major apple-growing area? :)
2008-05-19 18:03 < bumm13> *areas
2008-05-19 18:04 < cimon> "McCainpedia provides the kind of transparency that John McCain would rather avoid and empowers millions of people to review McCain's inconsistencies and make up their own minds about Senator McCain."
2008-05-19 18:04 < Mahlzahn> matthew: the odd thing is... I don't see anything in your main.css that might suggest "color:white" (which is what is making it "invisible")
2008-05-19 18:05 < bumm13> cimon: McCain is teh oldz
2008-05-19 18:05 < matthew> Mahlzahn: It's there.. I found it.
2008-05-19 18:05 < Mahlzahn> k. good for you then.
2008-05-19 18:05 < cimon> bumm13: something tells me the the democrats don't quite get wikipedia. McCain pedia is read only...
2008-05-19 18:06 < cimon> copyleft, but still read only.
2008-05-19 18:06 < Messedrocker> <matthew> bumm13: you are the apple core, then... << you mean Darwin?
2008-05-19 18:06 < Mahlzahn> they prolly do in fact... having run into vandalism no doubt
2008-05-19 18:06 < bumm13> Messedrocker: ?
2008-05-19 18:06 < Mahlzahn> cimon: why shouldn't something copyleft be read-only?
2008-05-19 18:07 < Mahlzahn> they aren't mutually exclusive you know. :)
2008-05-19 18:07 < cimon> Mahlzahn: no, but something passing itself as "like wikipedia"...
2008-05-19 18:07 < Leslie_S> Wow, i came across the most stupidity i have ever seen in one day today.
2008-05-19 18:07 * Ziggy_Sawdust pees on #wikipedia
2008-05-19 18:07 < Messedrocker> bumm13, the core of the apple Mac OS X operating system is called Darwin
2008-05-19 18:07 < Mahlzahn> cimon: erm, ED is read-only too. (logged in users only)
2008-05-19 18:07 < Leslie_S> We were at a truck stop, and I was fueling the truck up
2008-05-19 18:08 < cimon> Mahlzahn: so?
2008-05-19 18:08 < Mahlzahn> cimon: and so is the 9/11 memorial (which is even WP foundation)
2008-05-19 18:08 < Leslie_S> and there was a truck at the pump next to us, and the driver was inside paying for his fuel. the truck starts rolling and hits another truck!
2008-05-19 18:08 < Leslie_S> he forgot to set his parking brakes.
2008-05-19 18:08 < cimon> Mahlzahn: not so as I recall, didn't Merkey take that?
2008-05-19 18:09 < Leslie_S> what a jackass
2008-05-19 18:09 < Mahlzahn> *shrug* dunno
2008-05-19 18:09 * Ziggy_Sawdust Conservapedia!
2008-05-19 18:10 < bumm13> Messedrocker: yes, it is
2008-05-19 18:10 < bumm13> not talking about Apple Computer :)
2008-05-19 18:13 < Mahlzahn> ok, someone please give me a youtube link to brighten my day. :)
2008-05-19 18:13 < Mahlzahn> s/link/recommendation/
2008-05-19 18:15 < CydeWeys> "Never Trust a Fart"
2008-05-19 18:19 < Messedrocker> djkjh
2008-05-19 18:22 < matthew> Messedrocker: Washington state is the "Apple" state.. Our football rivalries are between east and west and we call it the "apple cut".. central washington university is right in the middle.
2008-05-19 18:22 < bumm13> Apple Cup ;)
2008-05-19 18:23 < Ziggy_Sawdust> http://www.distendedanuscapybara.com/
2008-05-19 18:23 < Ziggy_Sawdust> O_o
2008-05-19 18:24 < Enok|Walker> I'm following that link and I don't know why
2008-05-19 18:24 < bumm13> Mahlzahn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdjE4Yywmpc
2008-05-19 18:26 < Mahlzahn> thx
2008-05-19 18:27 < Enok|Walker> no capybaras or anuses to be found :(
2008-05-19 18:27 < Mahlzahn> bumm13: my, thats a quaint spot. I even remember it.
2008-05-19 18:28 < Leslie_S> i am so scared of the road test :(
2008-05-19 18:28 < Leslie_S> its way way way harder than a car driving test.
2008-05-19 18:29 < Leslie_S> running over a curb, coasting with clutch in or in neutral for more than the length of the vehicle, or screwing up a single downshift are automatic failures
2008-05-19 18:29 < bumm13> heh
2008-05-19 18:29 < bumm13> you're old ;)
2008-05-19 18:30 < Enok|Walker> I have to take the written test sooin, I should taken it years ago :/
2008-05-19 18:31 < Leslie_S> Enok|Walker written test for what? drivers license?
2008-05-19 18:31 < Enok|Walker> yes
2008-05-19 18:31 < Leslie_S> Enok|Walker im talking about a license to drive a semi here, so its quite a lot harder :)
2008-05-19 18:31 < Enok|Walker> oh :p
2008-05-19 18:31 < Leslie_S> Not running over curbs sounds easy, but its actually kinda hard.
2008-05-19 18:33 * Ziggy_Sawdust shows his gaping anus to everyone
2008-05-19 18:34 < Leslie_S> To not run over a curb, in a lot of intersections, you have to take up the whole road to make the turn
2008-05-19 18:34 < Leslie_S> and if someones in the oncoming lane at a stop sign, you force them to back up.
2008-05-19 18:38 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Niggers.
2008-05-19 18:46 < danieltahar> i want to create a wiki site that lets peoplep upload stuff, and would like to set up some sort of default template -- that is, when someone creates a new page, it'll already have a few tags, like a place for an image etc... anyone?
2008-05-19 18:47 < Pilotguy> danieltahar: Actually have you already got the wiki up and running or are you just looking at doing it?
2008-05-19 18:48 < Pilotguy> Because come to think of it #mediawiki might actually be the better channel to go to
2008-05-19 18:48 < danieltahar> no, i got it up and running, at siteground... i should have also asked before, what's considered the best hosting solution?
2008-05-19 18:48 < danieltahar> ok, i'll ask there, thanks
2008-05-19 18:48 < Pilotguy> No problem.
2008-05-19 18:50 < Pilotguy> lolpeer
2008-05-19 18:50 < cctoide> How many of you are annoyed by people calling WP "wiki"?
2008-05-19 18:50 < The359> why would we be?
2008-05-19 18:50 < Pilotguy> cctoide: He wasn't referring to wikipedia
2008-05-19 18:50 < bumm13> I usually call it "Frank"
2008-05-19 18:50 < danieltahar> not at all
2008-05-19 18:50 < mattbuck> i can't say it bothers me
2008-05-19 18:50 < cctoide> Pilotguy: I know, I wasn't referring to him
2008-05-19 18:51 < Pilotguy> ok
2008-05-19 18:51 < cctoide> I cringe at "I read about it on wiki"
2008-05-19 18:51 < The359> why
2008-05-19 18:51 < Pilotguy> Well it is a wiki and that is the cause of its pitiful state
2008-05-19 18:53 < gwern> thing I hae about consumer lans is they all seem to top out at 10mb/s when you want to scp something
2008-05-19 19:10 < bumm13> hiya Mike_H
2008-05-19 19:11 < Mike_H> hi buff_drinkslot
2008-05-19 19:11 < Mike_H> FUCK
2008-05-19 19:11 < Mike_H> hi bumm13
2008-05-19 19:11 < Enok|Walker> yey i made a commemorative plaque to put on my wall
2008-05-19 19:11 < Mike_H> commemorating what?
2008-05-19 19:11 < bumm13> lol
2008-05-19 19:12 < Enok|Walker> first GA
2008-05-19 19:12 < bumm13> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFf1nPAltC8 <-- :I
2008-05-19 19:12 < The359> you made a plaque because you earned a GA?
2008-05-19 19:12 < denelson83> Two native men, one from the South Pacific, the other from the Arctic, were arguing over food.
2008-05-19 19:13 < Enok|Walker> well a paper plaque
2008-05-19 19:13 < denelson83> The man from the Arctic said, "please, give me Samoa."
2008-05-19 19:13 < The359> Did your parents not love you much as a child?
2008-05-19 19:13 < Mike_H> you mean, a certificate?
2008-05-19 19:13 < Enok|Walker> yes that
2008-05-19 19:13 < denelson83> The man from the South Pacific snapped back, "I'm giving you Nunavut!"
2008-05-19 19:14 < Enok|Walker> well my parents got divorced after my dad decided he was gay but that was when i was like 13
2008-05-19 19:16 < denelson83> The Arctic man pleaded, "just put some on my Tonga."
2008-05-19 19:16 < Cream> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvBSSWiXjMw
2008-05-19 19:16 < Cream> omfg
2008-05-19 19:16 < Cream> i was looking for this
2008-05-19 19:17 < Mike_H> denelson83: oh sigh.
2008-05-19 19:17 < bumm13> Mike_H - you'll like this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKYb4qNMi_U
2008-05-19 19:18 < bumm13> (the first part is....fscked up, but don't give up on it)
2008-05-19 19:18 < MessedRawker> bumm13 need KOOOOOL AID
2008-05-19 19:18 < denelson83> The South Pacific native snapped back again, "you want me to Pangnirtung?"
2008-05-19 19:19 < Messedrocker> is that some kind of sexual act?
2008-05-19 19:20 < denelson83> No, that's what you get when you eat Jalapeños
2008-05-19 19:20 < bumm13> Messedrocker - you mean like this? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBeUGqeYsQg
2008-05-19 19:20 < denelson83> A pang on your tongue
2008-05-19 19:20 < bumm13> wimp!
2008-05-19 19:23 * soufron hello
2008-05-19 19:23 < DrSkullthumper> Hello?
2008-05-19 19:24 < Mike_H> hello soufron
2008-05-19 19:25 < bumm13> a man of few words
2008-05-19 19:30 < soufron> Mike_H, ahahyo
2008-05-19 19:30 * Mike_H cuddles soufron
2008-05-19 20:21 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-05-19 20:26 < Pilotguy> DEATH TO BUMMING
2008-05-19 20:26 < Messedrocker> great
2008-05-19 20:27 < Messedrocker> now i remember kelly martin's reign of terror
2008-05-19 20:27 < Pilotguy> :P
2008-05-19 20:28 < kim_bruning> Messedrocker, eh?
2008-05-19 20:28 * bumm13 kills Pilotguy instead
2008-05-19 20:28 < bumm13> :D
2008-05-19 20:29 < Messedrocker> i am using two computers simultaneously
2008-05-19 20:29 < bumm13> zomg
2008-05-19 20:29 < bumm13> with or without a KVM switch?
2008-05-19 20:29 < Messedrocker> two laptops
2008-05-19 20:29 < bumm13> ah
2008-05-19 20:30 < gwern> how bourgeoiusely decadent
2008-05-19 20:30 < Messedrocker> regrettably
2008-05-19 20:31 < gwern> yes, that's right. I'm judging you!
2008-05-19 20:31 < Messedrocker> as i should be
2008-05-19 20:31 < TheRtHonWeasel> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_von_Zeppelin
2008-05-19 20:31 < TheRtHonWeasel> ace.
2008-05-19 20:31 * bumm13 prefers Led Zeppelin
2008-05-19 20:32 < bumm13> *kaboom* went the Hindenberg!
2008-05-19 20:32 < TheRtHonWeasel> obskure Velsh band zat nobody remembahs.
2008-05-19 20:32 < bumm13> Welsh?
2008-05-19 20:32 < TheRtHonWeasel> Hindenburg
2008-05-19 20:33 < bumm13> oh, heh
2008-05-19 20:34 < TheRtHonWeasel> odd, scratch the Welsh part
2008-05-19 20:34 < TheRtHonWeasel> I seem to confuse em.
2008-05-19 20:34 < gwern> TheRtHonWeasel: funny article
2008-05-19 20:34 * bumm13 scratches his face scraggle
2008-05-19 20:34 < gwern> 'Over the next few decades, Zeppelin made numerous attempts to create a large dirigible airship. There were many failures in the early days. No sooner had he got his rigid airship up and going then it would begin to deflate and come crashing down way too early; an embarrassing and unsatisfying result. But whenever Count Zeppelin thought of giving up, Countess Zeppelin told him that it was all okay and he should just get some rest and try again later. '
2008-05-19 20:35 * Mike_H cuddles TheRtHonWeasel
2008-05-19 20:35 < bumm13> Mike: did you watch that video clip?
2008-05-19 20:35 < TheRtHonWeasel> :-)
2008-05-19 20:35 < Mike_H> bumm13: no, I got distracted by a Marilyn McCoo clip
2008-05-19 20:35 < bumm13> :(
2008-05-19 20:35 < Mike_H> Marilyn McCoo (born September 30, 1943) is an American singer and actress, who is well known for being the lead female vocalist in the group The Fifth Dimension, as well as hosting the 1980s music countdown series Solid Gold.
2008-05-19 20:35 < Mike_H> fab <3 <3
2008-05-19 20:36 < bumm13> groceries!!!
2008-05-19 20:37 < bumm13> <bumm13> Mike_H - you'll like this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKYb4qNMi_U
2008-05-19 20:37 < bumm13> <bumm13> (the first part is....fscked up, but don't give up on it)
2008-05-19 20:37 < The359> Age of Aquarius!
2008-05-19 20:38 < bumm13> (for reference ;)
2008-05-19 20:38 < Mike_H> The359: :D
2008-05-19 20:44 * Mike_H NP: Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis, Jr. - You Don't Have to Be a Star (1976)
2008-05-19 20:44 < Species8472> is a LEGEND the correct word that fits with a graph?
2008-05-19 20:44 < The359> Legend is the explanation for the symbols on a graph
2008-05-19 20:45 < Species8472> because its not listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_%28disambiguation%29
2008-05-19 20:46 < Species8472> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend doesn't say anything about the use by a graph either
2008-05-19 20:47 < The359> odd
2008-05-19 20:47 < The359> [[Key]] has a legend for a map, but that simply links to [[Caption]]
2008-05-19 20:47 < The359> Which is another disambig
2008-05-19 20:47 < The359> which also makes no mention of maps or graphs
2008-05-19 20:55 < gwern> 'I've always wondered why womens' underwear technology is so much more advanced than mens'. 'men typically wait until a thousand years have passed and humanity has split into morlocks and eloi before disposing of perfectly good underwear'
2008-05-19 20:55 * The359 checks
2008-05-19 20:55 < The359> what underwear?
2008-05-19 21:02 < chzz> what's underwear?
2008-05-19 21:02 < Messedrocker> the kiss of my tea makes calculus gay
2008-05-19 21:06 < Rinn> I wear overwear.
2008-05-19 21:07 < Leslie_S> i wear innerwear, underwear, overwear, and outerwear!
2008-05-19 21:07 < Rinn> It must take you a long time to get dressed in the morning.
2008-05-19 21:07 < Messedrocker> i wear Leslie_S
2008-05-19 21:12 < Cream> hey Rinn and Leslie_S
2008-05-19 21:12 * Cream huggles both
2008-05-19 21:12 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-05-19 21:12 < Leslie_S> im a truck driver
2008-05-19 21:13 < Leslie_S> i sleep in my clothes
2008-05-19 21:13 < Cream> ew
2008-05-19 21:13 < Messedrocker> LESLIE S
2008-05-19 21:13 < Messedrocker> THE TRUCKIN TRUCKER
2008-05-19 21:13 < Cream> I sleep in my PJ's or nekkid
2008-05-19 21:13 < Leslie_S> Cream theres something wrong with being a truck driver?
2008-05-19 21:13 < Cream> nope
2008-05-19 21:13 < Cream> lol
2008-05-19 21:13 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker hey, wanna hear my stories for the day? I saw some damn funny things today.
2008-05-19 21:13 < Cream> sure! i do!
2008-05-19 21:13 < Cream> Leslie_S, sadly, my father is a stereotype of truckers
2008-05-19 21:14 < The359> You're not a truck driver if you hit a curb.
2008-05-19 21:14 < Leslie_S> The359 i dont hit curbs anymore, but im so scared that im gonna on that roadtest.
2008-05-19 21:14 < The359> ....that's what I meant
2008-05-19 21:14 < The359> If you hit a curb, you fail
2008-05-19 21:14 < Leslie_S> The359 also, i see truck drivers run the trailre over curbs all the time.
2008-05-19 21:14 < The359> and you're not a truck driver
2008-05-19 21:14 < Leslie_S> oh, that. heh.
2008-05-19 21:14 < Leslie_S> The359 even if i fail, im gonna take the test again and again until i pass.
2008-05-19 21:15 < Leslie_S> :)
2008-05-19 21:15 < Cream> Leslie_S, good luck driving in Quebec
2008-05-19 21:15 < Leslie_S> Cream my company doesnt go to canada
2008-05-19 21:15 < Cream> oh ok
2008-05-19 21:15 < Leslie_S> lower 48 USA only. Its kinda sad really, i'd love to drive in canada.
2008-05-19 21:15 < Cream> the road weighting stations in quebec are a bitch
2008-05-19 21:15 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S, but then you'd have to deal with Canadian Customs and their flappy heads
2008-05-19 21:15 < Leslie_S> Cream im a bit of a trucker stereotype myself...kinda like the weird al song...
2008-05-19 21:16 < Cream> what i meant
2008-05-19 21:16 < Cream> big belly
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker "its a sealed load, i dont know whats in it"
2008-05-19 21:16 < Messedrocker> cream is a supergroup featuring eric clapton
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> Cream i essentially look like a girl
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> except i have a beard and a man voice
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-05-19 21:16 < Cream> heh
2008-05-19 21:16 < Cream> my dad likes to shop at truck stops
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> when i say beard, i mean...i shave, but theres still something visible.
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> so do i.
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> truck stops are cool
2008-05-19 21:16 < Messedrocker> wait
2008-05-19 21:16 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S isn't a girl?
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker im transgender
2008-05-19 21:16 < Leslie_S> duh
2008-05-19 21:16 < Cream> I'm gay
2008-05-19 21:17 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker wait....do you even know who i am?
2008-05-19 21:17 < Messedrocker> you're Phroziac
2008-05-19 21:17 < Leslie_S> yes.
2008-05-19 21:17 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S, but i thought transgendered folks made some sort of effort to be the other sex
2008-05-19 21:17 < Leslie_S> and ive used like 4 different "real" names
2008-05-19 21:17 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker im in an awkward halfway there stage.
2008-05-19 21:17 < Messedrocker> makes sense
2008-05-19 21:17 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker i go out to nightclubs and stuff as a girl, and pass extremely well. but i have some issues that keep me from being full time.
2008-05-19 21:18 < Leslie_S> and at night clubs, you cant really *HEAR* me.
2008-05-19 21:18 < Leslie_S> and i go to the gayclub like that, where....people dont give a shit about it anyway. but they still really, truly think im a girl :P :P
2008-05-19 21:19 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker anyway, i need to work on my voice, and my job isnt really the kind of job that you want to wear heavy makeup on, so .....ill go full time after i get electrolysis mostly done.
2008-05-19 21:19 < Leslie_S> im gonna have srs in two years.
2008-05-19 21:20 < Cream> Leslie_S, I've had laser :)
2008-05-19 21:20 < Cream> I've had laser on my back and chest :)
2008-05-19 21:20 < Leslie_S> Cream i want electrolysis.
2008-05-19 21:20 < Leslie_S> :P
2008-05-19 21:20 < Cream> :p
2008-05-19 21:20 < Cream> in my family (on my father's side), we tend to have extremely hairy backs
2008-05-19 21:20 < Cream> ew
2008-05-19 21:21 < Leslie_S> ew
2008-05-19 21:21 < Cream> major turn off girl
2008-05-19 21:21 < Leslie_S> bleh.....i want some sexual fun :(
2008-05-19 21:21 < Cream> i get plenty enough :)
2008-05-19 21:21 < Leslie_S> im in detroit, theres lots of gays here
2008-05-19 21:21 < Cream> last time i had sex was saturday night :)
2008-05-19 21:21 < Cream> with a hot couple, in their car :P
2008-05-19 21:21 < Leslie_S> i MIGHT be scoring some extra extra sexy fun this weekend..
2008-05-19 21:22 < Leslie_S> last time i had sex was like two months ago
2008-05-19 21:22 < Cream> oh
2008-05-19 21:22 < Cream> :(
2008-05-19 21:22 * Cream handles Leslie_S a porn magazine
2008-05-19 21:22 < Leslie_S> not enough
2008-05-19 21:22 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-05-19 21:22 < Leslie_S> cream, wanna pm?
2008-05-19 21:22 < Cream> sure!
2008-05-19 21:22 < The359> Get a room
2008-05-19 21:23 < Leslie_S> im in a hotel room, actually. :D :D
2008-05-19 21:23 < Mike_H> Last time I had sex was nine months ago. I do not feel your pain.
2008-05-19 21:23 * Leslie_S invites Cream
2008-05-19 21:23 < Messedrocker> last time i had sex was never
2008-05-19 21:23 < Leslie_S> Mike_H that was the ONLY time too
2008-05-19 21:23 < The359> I haven't had sex in a hear, quit your bitching, homo sex fiends
2008-05-19 21:23 < The359> year
2008-05-19 21:23 < Cream> The359, how many times did you jack off
2008-05-19 21:23 < The359> when?
2008-05-19 21:24 < mattbuck> let's start with numbers lower than a googolplex
2008-05-19 21:24 < mattbuck> today
2008-05-19 21:24 < The359> why
2008-05-19 21:24 < Leslie_S> mattbuck 1.
2008-05-19 21:24 < Leslie_S> The359 gay sex is farrr better than straight sex.
2008-05-19 21:24 < The359> how would you know
2008-05-19 21:25 < The359> you've only had sex once
2008-05-19 21:25 < Leslie_S> The359 theres this neat trick where ive only had sex with one person, but it was with a guy and a girl...
2008-05-19 21:25 < Leslie_S> :p
2008-05-19 21:25 < The359> so?
2008-05-19 21:25 < Mike_H> ...
2008-05-19 21:25 < Leslie_S> The359 so ive done it both ways.
2008-05-19 21:25 < The359> I could fuck Mike_H's mother and think it was bad
2008-05-19 21:25 < The359> that doesn't mean straight sex is bad
2008-05-19 21:25 < mattbuck> <Leslie_S> The359 theres this neat trick where ive only had sex with one person, but it was with a guy and a girl...
2008-05-19 21:26 < Leslie_S> The359 straight sex is great. gay is way better.
2008-05-19 21:26 < Mike_H> The359: I thought about being offended, but why would I protect my mother's sexual honor? :/
2008-05-19 21:26 < Leslie_S> rofl
2008-05-19 21:26 < mattbuck> .... you had sex with a hermaphrodite?
2008-05-19 21:26 < Leslie_S> mattbuck no. he was an FTM, and had a strapon
2008-05-19 21:26 < Mike_H> The359: but many of my guy friends have called her a MILF
2008-05-19 21:26 < Mike_H> so
2008-05-19 21:26 < Mike_H> yeah.
2008-05-19 21:26 < The359> I called her bad
2008-05-19 21:26 < bumm13> :\
2008-05-19 21:26 < The359> that doesn't make her a milf
2008-05-19 21:26 < Cream> i know a FTM irl
2008-05-19 21:26 < Cream> and i already fucked him
2008-05-19 21:26 < Leslie_S> and im an mtf, so it was a perfect match
2008-05-19 21:26 < Leslie_S> ;p
2008-05-19 21:26 * bumm13 stabs Cream
2008-05-19 21:27 < Mike_H> The359: your penis is two inches long. It was bad for everyone involved.
2008-05-19 21:27 < Leslie_S> LOL
2008-05-19 21:27 < Cream> Leslie_S, at work, there's this 23 years old guy
2008-05-19 21:27 < The359> She didn't lose money on it
2008-05-19 21:27 < Cream> he's insanely hot
2008-05-19 21:27 * mattbuck is now confused
2008-05-19 21:27 < Mike_H> The359: 25 cents isn't exactly her going rate.
2008-05-19 21:27 < Leslie_S> Cream you know, sometimes i wonder if other people might have secrets as big as mine.
2008-05-19 21:27 < The359> it should be
2008-05-19 21:28 < mattbuck> mine's fairly dull as secrets go
2008-05-19 21:28 < Mike_H> The359: It ain't 12.5 cents an inch, dear.
2008-05-19 21:28 < Cream> heh
2008-05-19 21:28 < Leslie_S> Cream like, at my old job, i'd come to work wearing eyeliner and womens pants, but otherwise in guymode. they had their opinions on me, but what they didnt know, was that i actually go out as a girl at nightclubs...
2008-05-19 21:28 < mattbuck> and it's not very secret seeing as how it's published on my website
2008-05-19 21:28 < Leslie_S> :P
2008-05-19 21:28 < Leslie_S> I think everyone really figured me out though.
2008-05-19 21:28 < Cream> heh
2008-05-19 21:28 < The359> dressing up as a girl isn't that big of a secret
2008-05-19 21:28 < The359> Being a Wikipedo
2008-05-19 21:28 < The359> that's a big secret
2008-05-19 21:28 < Leslie_S> LOL
2008-05-19 21:30 < Cream> LOL
2008-05-19 21:30 < Cream> :P
2008-05-19 21:38 * Pilotguy wrigs Sponge on Cream
2008-05-19 21:39 < Messedrocker> I AM CIMON AVARO
2008-05-19 21:39 < Cream> Pilotguy, wanna do some vandalism?
2008-05-19 21:39 < Messedrocker> I HAVE COME TO TICKLE YOUR SEXUAL DESIRES
2008-05-19 21:39 < bumm13> :|
2008-05-19 21:40 < Cream> http://desu.unixpod.com/
2008-05-19 21:40 < Cream> feel free
2008-05-19 21:40 < Cream> go insane
2008-05-19 21:40 < Pilotguy> O_o
2008-05-19 21:41 < Leslie_S> driving trucks is fun. too bad i didnt get into this sooner... :P
2008-05-19 21:42 < cimon> http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/19/democrats-use-fake-wikipedia-to-attack-mccain/
2008-05-19 21:42 < Messedrocker> ACK
2008-05-19 21:43 < The359> Not exactly a "fake" Wikipedia
2008-05-19 21:43 < The359> it's just a Wiki
2008-05-19 21:44 < Monobi> cimon, http://www.mccainpedia.org/index.php/Minimum_Wage <--- only .56% of the population earn min. wage
2008-05-19 21:44 < Monobi> Besides, the min. wage is immoral
2008-05-19 21:44 < Monobi> You can't force a private entity to pay an employee a certain amount of money
2008-05-19 21:44 < cimon> The359: the point is that it isn't a wiki. You can't edit it.
2008-05-19 21:45 < Messedrocker> you're right, Monobi
2008-05-19 21:45 < The359> someone obviously can
2008-05-19 21:45 < Messedrocker> we should be able to claim people as property
2008-05-19 21:45 < Messedrocker> and force them to work for free
2008-05-19 21:45 < Monobi> Messedrocker, of course not, because you don't have to work for someone
2008-05-19 21:45 < Monobi> Messedrocker, fine, I demand you pay me 10 dollars an hour for screwing light bulbs into a light socket
2008-05-19 21:45 < Monobi> That's wrong, no?
2008-05-19 21:45 < Gracenotes> Monobi: either way it's social death
2008-05-19 21:46 < Gracenotes> whether you choose to work or not
2008-05-19 21:46 < The359> how's that wrong?
2008-05-19 21:46 < Arwen> Monobi, without a minimum wage, employers will band together and ensure that all of them offer the same low wage of $0.00000000001 pesos/year
2008-05-19 21:46 < Messedrocker> Monobi, if an employer wants their employee to do more, they'll give them more work and the payment of $10/hr will be worth it
2008-05-19 21:46 < Monobi> Arwen, of course not, because no one would work for them
2008-05-19 21:46 < Messedrocker> Monobi which is why they form a trust
2008-05-19 21:46 < Arwen> Monobi, they would because ALL the employers would do that
2008-05-19 21:46 < Arwen> and then what would you do?
2008-05-19 21:46 < Monobi> Arwen, of course not, that's not how supply and demand works
2008-05-19 21:47 < Gracenotes> supply and demand assumes that everyone involved acts rationally
2008-05-19 21:47 < Monobi> You'd do well to read "Somebody's Gotta Say It" by Neal Boortz
2008-05-19 21:47 < Monobi> Gracenotes, is stupidity allowed under freedom?
2008-05-19 21:47 < Arwen> Monobi, supply and demand is essentially "lolololol plz 2 price fix us"
2008-05-19 21:47 < Gracenotes> it also ignores socioeconomic factors
2008-05-19 21:47 < bumm13> buying SUVs is irrational ;)
2008-05-19 21:47 < Arwen> bumm13, it's about rPeen
2008-05-19 21:48 < Monobi> Gracenotes, is stupidity allowed under freedom?
2008-05-19 21:48 < Monobi> Until you understand the answer is yes
2008-05-19 21:48 < Gracenotes> Monobi: not stupidity. rationality within the system can be seen as stupid from a common sense perspective.
2008-05-19 21:48 < Arwen> besides, don't you want to be able to run over those pesky sports car driving teenagers?
2008-05-19 21:48 < Monobi> Gracenotes, so I can't be stupid?
2008-05-19 21:48 < Monobi> Hmm, totalitarian?
2008-05-19 21:48 < Arwen> Monobi, what's wrong with that?
2008-05-19 21:48 < Arwen> I see nothing wrong with my being an absolute dictator.
2008-05-19 21:49 < Messedrocker> stupidity is certainly allowed under freedom. why else aren't ron paul supporters in jail
2008-05-19 21:49 < Arwen> Ron Paul is OUR GOD.
2008-05-19 21:49 < bumm13> gold!
2008-05-19 21:49 < Arwen> Messedrocker, stfu about Ron Paul. I don't even know you and you're talking trash like that.
2008-05-19 21:49 < Monobi> Arwen, Gracenotes suggests we don't have freedom in the USA
2008-05-19 21:49 < Messedrocker> google ron paul
2008-05-19 21:49 < Messedrocker> you get porn
2008-05-19 21:49 < Messedrocker> I AM OUT!
2008-05-19 21:49 < Monobi> Arwen, Messedrocker is an authoritarian
2008-05-19 21:50 < Arwen> Monobi, I am too.
2008-05-19 21:50 < Monobi> Actually, we don't have much freedom in the USA
2008-05-19 21:50 < Arwen> "freedom" is an illusion
2008-05-19 21:50 < Monobi> Arwen, than you're evil
2008-05-19 21:50 < Arwen> than I'm evil?
2008-05-19 21:50 < Monobi> Yes
2008-05-19 21:50 < The359> this conversation went to shit quickly
2008-05-19 21:50 < Arwen> What you refer to as "freedom" is just an arbitrary set of privileges authority has decided to grant you in order to keep you within your sandbox.
2008-05-19 21:50 < Monobi> If you restrict basic natural rights than you're evil
2008-05-19 21:51 < Gracenotes> Monobi: what? stop lying, dude
2008-05-19 21:51 < Arwen> Things such as "natural rights" and "basic freedoms" do not exist.
2008-05-19 21:51 < Arwen> They are just propaganda.
2008-05-19 21:51 < Gracenotes> I never said that. Your psychosis somehow linked that together...
2008-05-19 21:51 < Monobi> Arwen, of course not, natural rights exist independent of any governing authority
2008-05-19 21:51 < bumm13> lol
2008-05-19 21:51 < Monobi> You'd do well to read the writings of Locke
2008-05-19 21:51 < Arwen> Monobi, then I wonder why your "rights" vary so much depending on where you are?
2008-05-19 21:51 < Arwen> Locke = LOOOOOOOL
2008-05-19 21:52 < Monobi> Arwen, they don't vary, it's just that they are disabled
2008-05-19 21:52 < Monobi> You can't enact them without immoral punishment
2008-05-19 21:52 < Monobi> They still exist.
2008-05-19 21:52 < Arwen> wqat
2008-05-19 21:52 < Arwen> wat
2008-05-19 21:52 < Gracenotes> and they would still exist after a nuclear war exterminated mankind, of course. just like supply and demand would still exist
2008-05-19 21:53 < Gracenotes> amirite
2008-05-19 21:53 < Monobi> Gracenotes, of course
2008-05-19 21:54 < Monobi> They exist regardless of the situation or circumstance
2008-05-19 21:54 < Gracenotes> .
2008-05-19 21:54 < Arwen> Monobi, they can't exist if there are no people to grant these so-called "rights" to.
2008-05-19 21:59 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/167.197.117.101 odd edit history from an IP
2008-05-19 21:59 < The359> all his edits have been changing "Due to the fact..." to "because"
2008-05-19 22:00 < Monobi> Arwen, of course they can
2008-05-19 22:00 < Monobi> They exist, they just aren't being used
2008-05-19 22:00 < Arwen> wat
2008-05-19 22:00 < Monobi> Arwen, of course they can
2008-05-19 22:00 < Monobi> They exist, they just aren't being used
2008-05-19 22:00 < Monobi> That's wat
2008-05-19 22:00 < Arwen> then if I cut off your testicles, do "they exist, they aren't being used"?
2008-05-19 22:01 < Arwen> since you insist that rights are a fundamental part of a human
2008-05-19 22:01 < Monobi> No, but my testicles are tangible
2008-05-19 22:01 < Monobi> They (my rights) don't physically manifest themselves
2008-05-19 22:01 < Arwen> Monobi, really? Because I often hear about people "exercising" and "using" and "practicing" their rights.
2008-05-19 22:02 < Arwen> And how their "rights" are "manifest and inherent".
2008-05-19 22:02 < Monobi> What? I'm going to beat you with my right to liberty?
2008-05-19 22:02 < Monobi> Uh, okay...
2008-05-19 22:02 < gwern> '"Ideas are tested by experiment. That is the core of science." And this must be true, because if you can't trust Zombie Feynman, who *can* you trust?'
2008-05-19 22:02 < Monobi> No one!
2008-05-19 22:02 < Monobi> :-O
2008-05-19 22:03 < Arwen> hammar > zombie
2008-05-19 22:03 < Arwen> speaking of zombies, how do you get rid of zombied processes in Lunix?
2008-05-19 22:03 < Monobi> pkill -9
2008-05-19 22:04 < Monobi> Works every time
2008-05-19 22:04 < Monobi> :-O
2008-05-19 22:04 * Cream humps Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-19 22:04 < cimon> gwern: the key word there is "tested". Because what they aren't, is "proven" by experiment.
2008-05-19 22:04 < Arwen> Monobi, actually it doesn't, hence the zombification.
2008-05-19 22:04 < Monobi> :-O
2008-05-19 22:04 * Lucifer_Cat recommends Narnia - The Return
2008-05-19 22:05 < Arwen> Lucifer_Cat, oh?
2008-05-19 22:05 < Arwen> Jesus propaganda?
2008-05-19 22:05 * Lucifer_Cat Monobizes Arwen
2008-05-19 22:05 < Lucifer_Cat> Arwen: lol, no LOTR clone
2008-05-19 22:05 < Arwen> :D
2008-05-19 22:05 < Lucifer_Cat> which ofcourse you cant blame on lewis... he and tolky were chums
2008-05-19 22:05 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - the movie had one huge flaw
2008-05-19 22:05 < Ceiling_Cat> INSUFFECIENT KATZ
2008-05-19 22:06 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: not enuff kats
2008-05-19 22:06 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-19 22:06 < Lucifer_Cat> i had to choose between "the older gal wasnt old enuff to fug" and "not enough cats
2008-05-19 22:06 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle|away: heh
2008-05-19 22:07 < Arwen> can anyone recommend a good hardcore man-on-man film?
2008-05-19 22:07 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - huh? The older Pensive (sp?) sister was old enough to fug
2008-05-19 22:07 < Lucifer_Cat> looked 16-
2008-05-19 22:07 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Anna Popplewell]]
2008-05-19 22:08 < Lucifer_Cat> lemme look up
2008-05-19 22:08 < Ceiling_Cat> Age 19
2008-05-19 22:08 < Lucifer_Cat> W000T!!
2008-05-19 22:08 < Lucifer_Cat> i like how summer glau is older than me... totally fuggable despite playing 16
2008-05-19 22:08 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Georgie Henley]] - the younger one
2008-05-19 22:08 < gwern> Arwen: [[12 Angry Men]]
2008-05-19 22:08 < Lucifer_Cat> ditto with page
2008-05-19 22:08 < Ceiling_Cat> only 12
2008-05-19 22:08 < Ceiling_Cat> definitely not legal
2008-05-19 22:08 < Arwen> gwern, mm, sounds hot
2008-05-19 22:09 < gwern> a bit kinky I'll admit
2008-05-19 22:09 < gwern> but it's an acknowleged classic
2008-05-19 22:10 * Ceiling_Cat fuggles Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-19 22:10 * Lucifer_Cat isnt into males
2008-05-19 22:10 < Lucifer_Cat> but apparently, a male is inside me atm :P
2008-05-19 22:10 < gwern> I hope Lucifer_Cat is of age