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2008-05-18 16:55 < Messedrocker> yet when i write "JUSTIN BAILEY" it immediately adds the dashes
2008-05-18 16:56 < gwern> 'According to a seemingly serious academic study reported in the Guardian in 2006, Icelanders are the happiest people on earth. (The study was lent some credibility by the finding that the Russians were the most unhappy.)'
2008-05-18 16:56 < gwern> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/18/iceland
2008-05-18 16:57 < Sky2042> LOL
2008-05-18 16:58 < Lucifer_Cat> sup
2008-05-18 16:58 < Messedrocker> LUUCIFERRRR CAAAAAAT
2008-05-18 16:58 < Messedrocker> is a WOOORKING MAAAAN
2008-05-18 16:58 < gwern> Messedrocker: that can't be true. he's a cat, not a man
2008-05-18 16:59 < gwern> unless... 2 LEGS GOOD, 4 LEGS BAD?
2008-05-18 16:59 < KingOfAll> 4 Legs good, 2 Legs better.
2008-05-18 16:59 < Alkivar> Messedrocker: you know Justin Bailey works with all - or All 0 or All 1 or All 2 or All 3 etc... right?
2008-05-18 16:59 < Messedrocker> then it must be forged
2008-05-18 16:59 < Messedrocker> i consider to mr. alkiseltzer here
2008-05-18 17:00 < Messedrocker> concede*
2008-05-18 17:01 * Lucifer_Cat is loooooooose
2008-05-18 17:01 < Ziggy_Sawdust> SNUPPERS
2008-05-18 17:01 < Ziggy_Sawdust> So
2008-05-18 17:01 < Ziggy_Sawdust> How do you pronounce common Wikipedia terms?
2008-05-18 17:01 < Lucifer_Cat> badly
2008-05-18 17:02 < Ziggy_Sawdust> [[WP:ANI]] = "Whoop-annie"
2008-05-18 17:02 < Pilotguy> -o
2008-05-18 17:02 < Ziggy_Sawdust> actually, more like "whip annie"
2008-05-18 17:02 < Messedrocker> ANI --> Anus
2008-05-18 17:02 < Ziggy_Sawdust> and of course BJAODN is buh-JOW-din
2008-05-18 17:02 < Messedrocker> ya
2008-05-18 17:03 < Ziggy_Sawdust> or wee-KEY-pee-tan
2008-05-18 17:03 < Alkivar> as i recall justin bailey works in both caps and lowercase if you use - for the bottom row
2008-05-18 17:03 < Ziggy_Sawdust> for Frenchies it would be "whigh-key-pay-tahn"
2008-05-18 17:03 < Lucifer_Cat> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0S8wBNoiv90
2008-05-18 17:04 < Messedrocker> when i told my dad about Wikipe-tan, he thought I said "Wiki-Poutain", which means "Wiki-Whore"
2008-05-18 17:04 < Alkivar> wookieepetan?
2008-05-18 17:04 < Messedrocker> Alkivar, don't give them any ideas
2008-05-18 17:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Your mom works in uppercase or lowercase, if you know what I mean
2008-05-18 17:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> XD
2008-05-18 17:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> oh shit
2008-05-18 17:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> my power just went out
2008-05-18 17:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> my router has a backup
2008-05-18 17:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> but it won't last long
2008-05-18 17:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> in the meantime.
2008-05-18 17:04 < Ziggy_Sawdust> if you don't hear from me soon, best of regards
2008-05-18 17:04 < Lucifer_Cat> FUCKOFF
2008-05-18 17:05 < Lucifer_Cat> ok
2008-05-18 17:05 < Lucifer_Cat> StayWheels: sup
2008-05-18 17:05 < Ziggy_Sawdust> O_o
2008-05-18 17:05 < Ziggy_Sawdust> apparently, the oven dictates all my electricity
2008-05-18 17:05 < Ziggy_Sawdust> when the oven is turned on, all the power works
2008-05-18 17:05 < Alkivar> in my house its the vacuum cleaner
2008-05-18 17:05 < Ziggy_Sawdust> when the oven is turned off, all the outlets stop working
2008-05-18 17:06 < Ziggy_Sawdust> xD
2008-05-18 17:06 < Alkivar> when the vacuum is on, and the overhead light in my room is on... the power in the bedroom doesnt work right
2008-05-18 17:06 < Ziggy_Sawdust> hahaa
2008-05-18 17:06 * Ziggy_Sawdust Al (as in "pal) - kuh - var (as in "varsity")
2008-05-18 17:06 < Alkivar> thank god for a 4000kva UPS :>
2008-05-18 17:07 < Lucifer_Cat> Al- kaa-viar
2008-05-18 17:07 < Messedrocker> al-kih-varr
2008-05-18 17:07 < Ziggy_Sawdust> My dad is obsessed with my bed
2008-05-18 17:07 < Ziggy_Sawdust> it's like
2008-05-18 17:07 < Ziggy_Sawdust> "IT HAS TO BE ON A BEDFRAME"
2008-05-18 17:07 < Ziggy_Sawdust> the mattress can't be on the ground
2008-05-18 17:07 < Ziggy_Sawdust> because the 4 inches of elevation make so much difference
2008-05-18 17:07 < Leslie_S> lol....
2008-05-18 17:11 < Lucifer_Cat> it duzz
2008-05-18 17:11 < Lucifer_Cat> your dad has been infested by females.
2008-05-18 17:11 < Lucifer_Cat> no uninfested male would even care
2008-05-18 17:12 < Leslie_S> Ziggy_Sawdust you should just let me perform on the bed, and then he wont say anything about the bed frame.
2008-05-18 17:13 * Leslie_S wonders how old Ziggy_Sawdust is, heh.
2008-05-18 17:13 < Ziggy_Sawdust> wait, what
2008-05-18 17:13 < Ziggy_Sawdust> O_o
2008-05-18 17:14 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: if you performed on there, the bed would be the least of ziggys problems
2008-05-18 17:15 < Lucifer_Cat> BJ Smegma
2008-05-18 17:16 < Ziggy_Sawdust> and plus
2008-05-18 17:16 < Ziggy_Sawdust> I now have a door stick
2008-05-18 17:16 < Ziggy_Sawdust> i.e. whenever someone enters my room (which happens freakishly often) they never close the door
2008-05-18 17:16 < Leslie_S> Lucifer_Cat thats why they invented towels.
2008-05-18 17:16 < Ziggy_Sawdust> so I now have a stick I use to shove the door closed
2008-05-18 17:17 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Leslie_S: #wikipedia-xxx perhaps?
2008-05-18 17:17 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-18 17:17 < Leslie_S> Ziggy_Sawdust what do you think i meant? :P
2008-05-18 17:17 < Lucifer_Cat> lol for the door stick
2008-05-18 17:17 < Sky2042> Looooooooooooool
2008-05-18 17:17 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Ah!
2008-05-18 17:17 < Ziggy_Sawdust> At last!
2008-05-18 17:17 < Enok|Walker> wat
2008-05-18 17:17 < Lucifer_Cat> i wish i was a messenger and all the news was good
2008-05-18 17:17 < Ziggy_Sawdust> He finally closed the door when he left!
2008-05-18 17:17 * Ziggy_Sawdust dances
2008-05-18 17:17 * Lucifer_Cat trips ziggy
2008-05-18 17:18 < Lucifer_Cat> how old are you btw?
2008-05-18 17:18 < Enok|Walker> This chaaaaat
2008-05-18 17:18 < Lucifer_Cat> and you live with dad uncle and gramps dont you
2008-05-18 17:18 < Lucifer_Cat> i wish i was the pedal brake you depended on
2008-05-18 17:19 < Lucifer_Cat> "Darth Smegma was a public safety instructor for the Sith Empire. A master of camouflage, she could not be seen. There was, however, one lesson which she had not learned: not to stand up. This was impressed on her during a stealth tactics demonstration on Coruscant."
2008-05-18 17:19 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-18 17:19 < Ziggy_Sawdust> lolol
2008-05-18 17:19 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ...wut?
2008-05-18 17:21 < Sky2042> why is this on wikipedia?...
2008-05-18 17:21 < Sky2042> wait, excuse, why is star wars allowed cruft? :(
2008-05-18 17:21 < Sky2042> excuse me*
2008-05-18 17:22 < Ziggy_Sawdust> So what's the defining difference between sauntering, traipsing, strutting, swaggering, waltzing, pirouetting, walking, sprinting, and trudging?
2008-05-18 17:29 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Killah Queen!
2008-05-18 17:34 * Messedrocker oscillates at an increasingly rapid velocity
2008-05-18 17:35 < Ziggy_Sawdust> :O
2008-05-18 17:36 < Ziggy_Sawdust> FREE BIRD
2008-05-18 17:39 * kylu puts Messedrocker in water and uses him to clean laundary...
2008-05-18 17:41 < Messedrocker> no kylu i rotate too fast
2008-05-18 17:42 * kylu oh, drops in ice and coffee, uses him to make frappucinos instead?
2008-05-18 17:42 < ST47> Yay for password breaches
2008-05-18 17:42 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ST47: ?
2008-05-18 17:42 < Enok|Walker> wat
2008-05-18 17:43 < Messedrocker> kylu, anything you place near me will be sucked to me through centrifugal force
2008-05-18 17:43 * Working_Cat spinz Messedrocker '
2008-05-18 17:44 < Messedrocker> i am already spinning
2008-05-18 17:44 * kylu hms, adds yeast, sugar, and flour.
2008-05-18 17:45 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Accretion disc?
2008-05-18 17:49 < kylu> actually, if anyone's got a good-sized chunk of neutronium, we could toss it in and get some close-up views of the process...
2008-05-18 17:49 < Sky2042> kylu: how close were you thinking?...
2008-05-18 17:49 < Sky2042> -_-
2008-05-18 17:50 < kylu> well, we're in the same channel as him, so "extremely"
2008-05-18 17:55 * kylu lobs it in and rides the nearest ray of light away.
2008-05-18 17:55 < Messedrocker> anyone in here with a SomethingAwful Forums account?
2008-05-18 17:56 < Leslie_S> http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk279/semi-interesting/?action=view¤t=IMG_0650.jpg
2008-05-18 17:56 < Leslie_S> wtf
2008-05-18 18:06 < Messedrocker> the gamecube has been available for 7 years and 21.74 million have shipped
2008-05-18 18:06 < Messedrocker> the wii has been out for a year and a half and 24.45 million have shippe
2008-05-18 18:06 < Messedrocker> shipped
2008-05-18 18:06 < Sky2042> Messedrocker: o_o
2008-05-18 18:07 < Messedrocker> s/7 years/6.5 years
2008-05-18 18:07 < Enok|Walker> cubes are lame anyway
2008-05-18 18:08 < Sky2042> Enok|Walker: Nintendo > All, imo
2008-05-18 18:09 < Enok|Walker> Yes that's why I have ~450 NES games :p
2008-05-18 18:22 * FastLizard4 pokes Messedrocker's +o
2008-05-18 18:22 < Messedrocker> what
2008-05-18 18:22 < Messedrocker> oh this
2008-05-18 18:25 < RadioListener841> hello everyone
2008-05-18 18:28 < Lycurgus> yello RadioListener841
2008-05-18 18:28 < Messedrocker> The console was conceived in 2001, as the Nintendo GameCube was first seeing release. According to an interview with Nintendo's game designer Shigeru Miyamoto, the concept involved focusing on a new form of player interaction. "The consensus was that power isn't everything for a console. Too many powerful consoles can't coexist. It's like having only ferocious dinosaurs. They might fight and hasten their own extinction."
2008-05-18 18:28 < Messedrocker> [[Godzilla|Spoken like a true Japanese national]]
2008-05-18 18:32 < GP001> Hey
2008-05-18 18:32 < Lycurgus> Geo n' Laura: the polyester Nicholas and Alexandra.
2008-05-18 18:32 < GP001> Sandbox isn't working.
2008-05-18 18:32 < GP001> freezes browswer window.
2008-05-18 18:33 < The359> hmmm
2008-05-18 18:33 < The359> same here
2008-05-18 18:33 < The359> I assume someone put something massive in it
2008-05-18 18:33 < The359> yep, they did
2008-05-18 18:33 < The359> couple thousand headings
2008-05-18 18:34 < Gracenotes> hm... looks like I have /. mod points. anyone want to write something mod-worthy?
2008-05-18 18:34 < The359> One second GP001
2008-05-18 18:34 < The359> I'm cleaning it out
2008-05-18 18:35 < GP001> k
2008-05-18 18:35 < The359> Try again, GP001
2008-05-18 18:35 < The359> I've cleaned it out
2008-05-18 18:35 < GP001> kk thnx
2008-05-18 18:36 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sir_Louis_Von_Dixon looks like this guy was behind it
2008-05-18 18:37 < GP001> wonderful
2008-05-18 18:38 < Messedrocker> what day of the week is January 20, 2009?
2008-05-18 18:38 < GP001> tuesday
2008-05-18 18:40 < Messedrocker> what a perfect day of the week
2008-05-18 18:40 < Alkivar> CELTICS WIN
2008-05-18 18:40 < Alkivar> first time to the Conference finals in 16 years
2008-05-18 18:41 < The359> Cel who?
2008-05-18 18:41 * Netsniper farts
2008-05-18 18:41 < Netsniper> That was a report from Fort Ass
2008-05-18 18:42 < Netsniper> General Shits is on his way
2008-05-18 18:53 < mattwj2002> wow quite room?
2008-05-18 18:53 < mattwj2002> *quiet room
2008-05-18 18:54 < mattwj2002> 209 people in the room and they all appear to be asleep :)
2008-05-18 18:54 < Netsniper> i told a joke
2008-05-18 18:54 < Netsniper> killed the convo
2008-05-18 18:54 < Netsniper> sorry
2008-05-18 18:54 < mattwj2002> dang it netsniper
2008-05-18 18:54 < Netsniper> yeah
2008-05-18 18:54 < mattwj2002> what was the joke?
2008-05-18 18:54 < Netsniper> at least i'm good at something
2008-05-18 18:54 < CrazyChemGuy> I'm not asleep, I'm sitting in awe at the amount of work [[MDMA]] is going to need to make it to GA...
2008-05-18 18:55 * Netsniper farts
2008-05-18 18:55 < Netsniper> That was a report from Fort Ass
2008-05-18 18:55 < Netsniper> General Shits is on his way
2008-05-18 18:55 < FastLizard4|busy> Netsniper: don't do that plox
2008-05-18 18:55 < FastLizard4|busy> :P
2008-05-18 18:55 < Netsniper> ok
2008-05-18 18:56 * Netsniper finds it rather hilarious
2008-05-18 18:56 < mattwj2002> crazychemguy that is quite the article
2008-05-18 18:59 < commielib> what is a wikipedia?
2008-05-18 18:59 < mattwj2002> Wikipedia the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.
2008-05-18 19:00 < Netsniper> commielib: it's a place to undo all rush limbaugh has done
2008-05-18 19:00 < commielib> huh?
2008-05-18 19:01 < nsh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQXn5ba0aT8
2008-05-18 19:01 < nsh> i want some of those
2008-05-18 19:02 < commielib> why not just get some old brake drums from a junkyard and use those
2008-05-18 19:02 < Netsniper> why not use some of grandma's walking implements
2008-05-18 19:02 < mattwj2002> I prefer this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkDBlEvfbgg
2008-05-18 19:03 < commielib> i think that's fake.. he has an mp3 recording on a computer somewhere and is playng that inthe background
2008-05-18 19:05 < commielib> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrXtmKGkSa4
2008-05-18 19:06 < commielib> so this tikipedia has something to do with them tiki masks, right?
2008-05-18 19:06 < Netsniper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKE8rCYLh00
2008-05-18 19:09 < mattwj2002> so anyone know when wikimedia-radio will be in production?
2008-05-18 19:10 < commielib1776> what kind of country is wikipedia?
2008-05-18 19:11 < mattwj2002> it isn't a country
2008-05-18 19:11 < Mike_H> mattwj2002: I'd ask brianmc
2008-05-18 19:11 < Mike_H> but he just went to sleep
2008-05-18 19:12 < Mike_H> he is in Belgium.
2008-05-18 19:12 < Mike_H> So maybe in about 12 hours or so.
2008-05-18 19:12 * TheRtHonWeasel reads Tristram Shandy with religious zeal
2008-05-18 19:12 < Mike_H> actually
2008-05-18 19:12 < Mike_H> no
2008-05-18 19:12 < Mike_H> he's still online
2008-05-18 19:12 < Mike_H> hold on
2008-05-18 19:12 < commielib1776> then, what kind of state is wikipedia?
2008-05-18 19:15 < Netsniper> this guy must be too dangerous to walk freely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQw1tsgrJOs
2008-05-18 19:16 < IndianaJonesKNA> uh huh
2008-05-18 19:18 < commielib1776> he's on a leash
2008-05-18 19:18 < Gracenotes> it would hurt to have your feet drag on the treadmill :|
2008-05-18 19:18 < IndianaJonesKNA> heh
2008-05-18 19:18 < IndianaJonesKNA> hmm
2008-05-18 19:18 < IndianaJonesKNA> :|
2008-05-18 19:19 < Netsniper> i likes this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fiMp3kC9-w
2008-05-18 19:20 < Gracenotes> Netsniper: sounds indie...
2008-05-18 19:20 < mattwj2002> better tetris music
2008-05-18 19:20 < mattwj2002> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOe0UwSh3Ds
2008-05-18 19:20 * Gracenotes looks up the band
2008-05-18 19:20 * Cream kicks Gracenotes's balls
2008-05-18 19:20 < Gracenotes> hey. I need those.
2008-05-18 19:22 < IndianaJonesKNA> :)
2008-05-18 19:22 < IndianaJonesKNA> hell no
2008-05-18 19:22 < Netsniper> blackie is in my lap asleep
2008-05-18 19:23 < Messedrocker> you have a black cat?
2008-05-18 19:23 < Netsniper> yes
2008-05-18 19:23 < Netsniper> its 9wk old
2008-05-18 19:23 < Messedrocker> niggacat!
2008-05-18 19:23 < Netsniper> yep
2008-05-18 19:23 < Messedrocker> someday he will grow up to be a big black man
2008-05-18 19:23 < Messedrocker> i love my ruckabo. he always has such a noble gaze
2008-05-18 19:24 < IndianaJonesKNA> stfu
2008-05-18 19:24 < Netsniper> it wanders the house dealing drugs, with his pants around his knees, and listening to 2pac
2008-05-18 19:24 < IndianaJonesKNA> Jiang Meng Shu gate
2008-05-18 19:25 < IndianaJonesKNA> wow using that impression to all black people, not all black people do that you know.
2008-05-18 19:25 < Netsniper> neither do all black cats
2008-05-18 19:25 < Messedrocker> i think he was being facetious, noting the absurdity of a black cat complying to the stereotypes of an urban black man
2008-05-18 19:26 < Messedrocker> or comparing the two stereotypes thereof
2008-05-18 19:26 < commielib1776> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQWc3MWQxtU
2008-05-18 19:27 < IndianaJonesKNA> but imploring that as racial terms could lead to disoreintating thoughts causing serious violence through civilzational areas especially urban areas.
2008-05-18 19:27 < Cream> o rly?
2008-05-18 19:27 < Rinn> IRC causes hate crimes!
2008-05-18 19:28 < Netsniper> irc is a hate crime
2008-05-18 19:28 < commielib1776> i feel disoriented
2008-05-18 19:28 < IndianaJonesKNA> yeah realy
2008-05-18 19:30 < commielib1776> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFtMoixH9bg&feature=related
2008-05-18 19:30 < Netsniper> my cat started purring right when the lady began screaming "I'm pressing charges"
2008-05-18 19:30 < Messedrocker> how ironic
2008-05-18 19:30 < IndianaJonesKNA> hmph
2008-05-18 19:36 < TheRtHonWeasel> I'm out.
2008-05-18 19:36 * Cream looks at usernames that can be ursuped
2008-05-18 19:36 < Cream> toodle
2008-05-18 19:36 * TheRtHonWeasel tugs on charges
2008-05-18 19:36 < Cream> oh hai Pilotguy
2008-05-18 19:36 < Cream> <3
2008-05-18 19:36 < Pilotguy> Hello reddi whip
2008-05-18 19:38 < Invisible_Cat> sup fgt
2008-05-18 19:39 < Ziggy_Sawdust> lol
2008-05-18 19:39 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Hey foo
2008-05-18 19:40 < Sky2042> was i supposed to read that as "fgt" or something else?
2008-05-18 19:42 < Gracenotes> Sky2042: it's an affectionate term
2008-05-18 19:55 < Pilotguy> MOAR CATZ
2008-05-18 19:55 < Pilotguy> I CAN HAS MOAR CATZ PLZ?!?
2008-05-18 19:56 < V`Ger> sudo Pilotguy --shut-ip
2008-05-18 19:56 < V`Ger> *sudo Pilotguy --shut-up
2008-05-18 19:56 < Pilotguy> DO NOT WANT
2008-05-18 19:56 < Pilotguy> WANT CATZ
2008-05-18 19:56 < V`Ger> SUDO SIGKILL PILOTGUY
2008-05-18 19:57 * Mike_H cuddles Pilotguy
2008-05-18 19:57 < Invisible_Cat> MOAR CATS!
2008-05-18 19:57 < Invisible_Cat> WE NEED CEILING_CAT
2008-05-18 19:57 < Pilotguy> :DD
2008-05-18 19:57 < V`Ger> omg
2008-05-18 19:57 < Invisible_Cat> seriously
2008-05-18 19:57 < V`Ger> someone dosen't know what sudo stands for o_O
2008-05-18 19:57 < Invisible_Cat> where the fuck is he
2008-05-18 19:58 < Mike_H> What the fuck is it with #wikipedia and cats?
2008-05-18 19:58 < V`Ger> Mike_H: Because cats > you
2008-05-18 19:58 < Invisible_Cat> MOAR CATS!
2008-05-18 19:58 < Invisible_Cat> CAN IT BE OWL TIME!
2008-05-18 20:04 < zocky> Mike_H, ah, but we always had furries
2008-05-18 20:04 < zocky> Mike_H, it's just that now they can all claim that it's a lolcat thing, so they can stay closeted
2008-05-18 20:06 < Gracenotes> zocky: whatchu talkin' 'bout, girl? cats are very masculine...
2008-05-18 20:06 < Mike_H> zocky: bleh.
2008-05-18 20:06 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: ...girl?
2008-05-18 20:06 < Mike_H> :D
2008-05-18 20:07 < Mike_H> I would expect that from
2008-05-18 20:07 < Mike_H> like
2008-05-18 20:07 < Mike_H> me.
2008-05-18 20:07 < Gracenotes> lol
2008-05-18 20:07 < zocky> it's either a furry thing or a cutesy-kitten-with-sad-eyes thing
2008-05-18 20:07 < zocky> disgusting either way
2008-05-18 20:07 < Mike_H> zocky: I'm a dog person.
2008-05-18 20:08 < zocky> Mike_H, that sounds somewhat furry too :)
2008-05-18 20:10 < Invisible_Cat> any bureaucrats around?
2008-05-18 20:11 < Mike_H> zocky: oh psh.
2008-05-18 20:11 * Mike_H NP: Stars on 45 - Stars on 45 Medley (1981)
2008-05-18 20:11 * Mike_H dances with zocky
2008-05-18 20:14 < zocky> Mike_H, as long as you're not wearing a dog suit :P
2008-05-18 20:16 < Mike_H> zocky: no :(
2008-05-18 20:19 < zocky> oohoohooh-oohoohoohooh
2008-05-18 20:19 < zocky> Mike_H, now you made me go listen to it
2008-05-18 20:20 < Enok|Walker> you guyssss
2008-05-18 20:20 < Lubaf> "These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and Time Travel," - Superman, JLA Classified #3.
2008-05-18 20:20 < Messedrocker> guyyyyyyyyyysssssssss
2008-05-18 20:22 < Enok|Walker> front page cannon makes me happay
2008-05-18 20:23 * The359 wishes someone would start reviewing my article for GA before I leave on a trip in a few days
2008-05-18 20:25 < Messedrocker> has MD5 ever been reverse-engineered?
2008-05-18 20:29 < zocky> Messedrocker, why would it be?
2008-05-18 20:29 < zocky> it's a public algorithm, no?
2008-05-18 20:29 < Messedrocker> well has anyone ever taken an MD5 checksum
2008-05-18 20:29 < Messedrocker> or a hash, rather
2008-05-18 20:29 < zocky> you mean, has it been broken?
2008-05-18 20:29 < Messedrocker> and then get the original input?
2008-05-18 20:29 < zocky> yes
2008-05-18 20:30 < zocky> it's quite easy to break these days
2008-05-18 20:30 < zocky> Messedrocker, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_table for some pointers
2008-05-18 20:35 < CrazyChemGuy> The people at wikipedia watch may participate in the biggest display of stupidity and time wasting I've ever seen.
2008-05-18 20:35 < Messedrocker> so MD5 is useless?
2008-05-18 20:36 < Messedrocker> CrazyChemGuy, they do make valid points from time to time, though
2008-05-18 20:36 < CrazyChemGuy> Somebody on there wrote a page about the identify of SlimVirgin's dog
2008-05-18 20:36 < Messedrocker> well that's just stupid
2008-05-18 20:36 < CrazyChemGuy> "The same SlimVirgin also holds a record of continuous editorial work lasting 26 hours, with the longest break in editing not exceeding 40 minutes. These statistics from Wikipedia's editing records suggests either a supernatural ability, or more likely that SlimVirgin is a convenient smoke screen for an entire team of specialists editing Wikipedia articles on behalf of intelligence services. "
2008-05-18 20:36 < Messedrocker> then again, so is edit warring
2008-05-18 20:36 < CrazyChemGuy> Those sentences are just... stupid.
2008-05-18 20:36 < Messedrocker> or, SlimVirgin is that much of a nerd.
2008-05-18 20:36 < CrazyChemGuy> Lies
2008-05-18 20:37 < CrazyChemGuy> It's obviously the CIA
2008-05-18 20:37 < AllyUnion> Or he's just that much of a Virgin.
2008-05-18 20:40 < The359> he's obviously a virgin
2008-05-18 20:40 < The359> What do you think he was doing during the 40 minute break?
2008-05-18 20:41 < CrazyChemGuy> Guys, wikipedia-watch apparently logs all the IRC chats, as is evidenced by me googling my username; they're obviously going to come for you if you ask too many questions :P
2008-05-18 20:41 < The359> old news
2008-05-18 20:41 < The359> we know they log
2008-05-18 20:41 < Messedrocker> SHE
2008-05-18 20:41 < CrazyChemGuy> New news to me, I didn't know that until now
2008-05-18 20:41 < Messedrocker> SlimVirgin is a lady
2008-05-18 20:42 < CrazyChemGuy> And yes, I'm fairly certain he's a she
2008-05-18 20:42 < Messedrocker> men can't be virgins anyway (in the traditional sense)
2008-05-18 20:42 < CrazyChemGuy> Sure they can
2008-05-18 20:42 < CrazyChemGuy> The word isn't talking about a hymen, it's talking about the having had of sex.
2008-05-18 20:42 < CrazyChemGuy> I don't think that was correct grammar, but you get the idea.
2008-05-18 20:43 * Mike_H NP: Diana Ross and the Supremes feat. The Temptations - I'm Gonna Make You Love Me (1968)
2008-05-18 20:43 < The359> Enough people in that one, Mike_H?
2008-05-18 20:44 < Mike_H> The359: not nearly.
2008-05-18 20:44 < zocky> Mike_H, "i'm gonna make you love me?"
2008-05-18 20:44 < Mike_H> zocky: yeah, have you heard that one?
2008-05-18 20:44 < zocky> that would get you a restraining order these days
2008-05-18 20:44 < The359> lol
2008-05-18 20:44 < Mike_H> zocky: Well, who would resist Diana Ross?
2008-05-18 20:45 * zocky np: Stevie Wonder - I'm Gonna Make you Love Me (with Diana Ross)
2008-05-18 20:45 < zocky> "before we go any further, let's say hello to this extremely talented young man"
2008-05-18 20:45 < The359> Clearly Diana Ross failed with The Temptations
2008-05-18 20:45 < Mike_H> zocky: continuing in on the duet trend
2008-05-18 20:45 < pengo> The359: you're not tempted?
2008-05-18 20:45 * Mike_H NP: Elton John and Kiki Dee - Don't Go Breaking My Heart (1976)
2008-05-18 20:45 < The359> no?
2008-05-18 20:46 < pengo> i guess they failed then
2008-05-18 20:47 < zocky> Mike_H, oh, no, not kiki dee
2008-05-18 20:47 < Mike_H> zocky: KIKI DEE :DD
2008-05-18 20:47 < Mike_H> Kiki Dee (born Pauline Matthews, March 6, 1947, Little Horton, Bradford, West Yorkshire, England[1]) is a successful singer-songwriter, with a career that has lasted over 40 years.
2008-05-18 20:47 < Mike_H> I can understand why she picked "Kiki Dee"
2008-05-18 20:47 < Mike_H> her old name was dreadful
2008-05-18 20:48 < zocky> "don't go breaking my heart" "I couldn't if I tried"
2008-05-18 20:48 < zocky> of course you couldn't, honey, he likes people with the other kind of plumbing
2008-05-18 20:48 < Mike_H> rofl
2008-05-18 20:48 < Mike_H> she hoped, though
2008-05-18 20:48 < Mike_H> this was while he was "still straight"
2008-05-18 20:49 < Mike_H> zocky: That reminded me of a That '70s Show episode, where Donna got a job at a radio station, and she proceeds to tell Jackie all the gossip
2008-05-18 20:49 < Mike_H> "And Elton John has a boyfriend!"
2008-05-18 20:49 < Mike_H> "...nuh-uh!"
2008-05-18 20:50 < zocky> he's quite obviously gay
2008-05-18 20:50 < zocky> though, he's also obviously english
2008-05-18 20:50 < zocky> and it's easy to mix up those two :)
2008-05-18 20:51 < The359> Liberace was too
2008-05-18 20:52 < Mike_H> zocky: My sister is still upset about George Michael being gay
2008-05-18 20:52 * Mike_H NP: Elton John - Mama Can't Buy You Love (1979)
2008-05-18 20:54 < Messedrocker> my attitude towards wikipedia is akin to someone who is now a father
2008-05-18 20:55 < Messedrocker> like that same person may have enjoyed certain things when he was younger, but now that he has more important things to think about he just doesn't care about the old things anymore
2008-05-18 20:55 < Messedrocker> likewise i am coding my own website now -- it is effectively my child -- and i don't even care about the latest outrage from wikipedia
2008-05-18 20:56 * Sky2042 is outraged at Messedrocker's attitude.
2008-05-18 20:57 < zocky> Messedrocker, there's a latest outrage?
2008-05-18 20:58 < zocky> DYK... that Welsh lawyer Edward Wynne was, in 1714, the first landowner to grow turnips on Anglesey?
2008-05-18 20:58 < zocky> DYK... that the ethnic population of Omaha, Nebraska, including new and first generation immigrants, comprised fifty percent of that city's population in the 1920s?
2008-05-18 20:58 < zocky> wtf is "ethnic population"?
2008-05-18 20:58 < NotASpy> Wikipedia - The free turnip anybody can make soup out of.
2008-05-18 20:59 < Cream> DYK... The Queen Of England will never go back to Quebec
2008-05-18 20:59 < Messedrocker> the queen of england wishes she had a wii
2008-05-18 20:59 < Messedrocker> true story
2008-05-18 21:03 < Mike_H> zocky: people who ain't WASPs
2008-05-18 21:03 < Mike_H> duh
2008-05-18 21:03 < zocky> Mike_H, so wasps are not "ethnic"?
2008-05-18 21:03 < Mike_H> not ethnic enough.
2008-05-18 21:04 < zocky> heh
2008-05-18 21:06 < zocky> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TNsJQWeU4w <-- quite a snake
2008-05-18 21:09 < zocky> ok, i'm not going to linkflood, but zomfg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugxPxavzRvA
2008-05-18 21:10 < cimon> For those who have not yet heard, Florence is not running for the board: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2008-May/043117.html
2008-05-18 21:12 < Messedrocker> my sister keeps sounding like she's doing coke
2008-05-18 21:13 < cimon> Messedrocker: maybe she just read soemthing really funny.
2008-05-18 21:14 < Messedrocker> no she's blowing her nose or something
2008-05-18 21:14 < Messedrocker> to a really dramatic degree methinks
2008-05-18 21:15 < Cream> [[Image:Jesuswcrissy.1.jpg]]
2008-05-18 21:15 < Cream> what a bad photoshopping
2008-05-18 21:32 < DGMurdockIII> HI
2008-05-18 21:33 < DGMurdockIII> what do you guys do to footnotes that are dead or not the write link
2008-05-18 21:35 < Mahlzahn> write link?
2008-05-18 21:36 < Lycurgus> a footnote cannot be "dead". It could be malformed or a template broken or something. A broken link ...
2008-05-18 21:36 < Lycurgus> is likely what you are trying to refer to.
2008-05-18 21:36 < Cream> G'night
2008-05-18 21:36 < Mahlzahn> ah broken url then
2008-05-18 21:36 < Mahlzahn> so {{dead link}} it.
2008-05-18 21:36 < Lycurgus> and in that case if you are capable of making an accurate finding that the link is in fact no longer good then you can remove it as a note.
2008-05-18 21:37 < Lycurgus> or replace it with a working equivalent.
2008-05-18 21:37 < Mahlzahn> that of course would be too kind, and hence unwikipedianish.
2008-05-18 21:38 < Lycurgus> well that's the way I do it
2008-05-18 21:38 * Mahlzahn gives Lycurgus a barnstar for general kindness.
2008-05-18 21:38 < Lycurgus> but I wonder how many editors are capable of distinguishing an URL that they can't reach at the moment from one that is really no longer any good?
2008-05-18 21:39 < Lycurgus> a simple majority I would hope, but I wouldn't bet on it
2008-05-18 21:39 < Mahlzahn> very few I would guess. It requires being able to read (the 404).
2008-05-18 21:40 < Lycurgus> that, judgement, the ability to see if the domain is routing, etc.
2008-05-18 21:40 < Mahlzahn> *very* few
2008-05-18 21:41 < Lycurgus> maybe, I'm overly optimistic sometimes
2008-05-18 21:41 < Mahlzahn> even fewer than the number of people who know that tracert is not really pronounced "tracert" :)
2008-05-18 21:44 < Mahlzahn> to be fair, I haven't come across a dead link more than twice, and both times the path had changed.
2008-05-18 21:45 < ST47> The plural of cannon is cannon?
2008-05-18 21:45 < Lycurgus> yes
2008-05-18 21:45 < ST47> nonsens
2008-05-18 21:45 < ST47> e
2008-05-18 21:45 * Mahlzahn is not sure
2008-05-18 21:45 * ST47 deletes main page for spelling errors
2008-05-18 21:45 < Lycurgus> whether artillery or dogma
2008-05-18 21:46 < Lycurgus> but it's not one of those cases where the pluralform is wrong
2008-05-18 21:46 < Mahlzahn> "The first cannon in Europe were probably used ..." sounds weird
2008-05-18 21:46 < ST47> OED agrees with wiki
2008-05-18 21:47 < Lycurgus> 50 cannon and 50 cannons both are acceptable
2008-05-18 21:47 < ST47> I declare OED to be bullshit, /me shoot it with 50 cannon
2008-05-18 21:47 * ST47 sound like arab man
2008-05-18 21:47 * ST47 thin plural are good
2008-05-18 21:47 < Mahlzahn> that would be correct, but I don't know why
2008-05-18 21:48 < Lycurgus> OED is as close as there is to an authority on English
2008-05-18 21:48 < Mahlzahn> "50 cannon stood on Mount Doom" sounds fine, "50 cannons stood on Mount Doom" sounds rotten.
2008-05-18 21:49 < Lycurgus> but 50 cannons were sent to mount doom works better dunnit?
2008-05-18 21:49 < V`Ger> Hehe
2008-05-18 21:49 < Mahlzahn> yes, somehow it does.
2008-05-18 21:50 < Lycurgus> there are subtle principle and parameters at play here that are of interest to noone besides a linguist
2008-05-18 21:50 < Lycurgus> *principles
2008-05-18 21:50 < Mahlzahn> so why does "The first cannon in Europe were probably used ..." feel odd?
2008-05-18 21:51 < Lycurgus> equivocation between the singular and plural ...
2008-05-18 21:51 < Lycurgus> causes cognitive dissonance.
2008-05-18 21:51 < Mahlzahn> but "cannon were among the earliest forms of gunpowder artillery" is ok!
2008-05-18 21:51 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus
2008-05-18 21:52 < Lycurgus> there's also an equivocation between pluralform and categories of artillery implicit
2008-05-18 21:52 < Lycurgus> yes, WC?
2008-05-18 21:54 < Lycurgus> also the Tolkein context calls for archaic, epic sorts of usages
2008-05-18 21:55 < Arwen> [[JPEG 2000]] <-- "however, formats like PNG will usually beat JPEG 2000 lossless in terms of overall compression ratio"
2008-05-18 21:55 < Arwen> that is Not True (TM_
2008-05-18 21:55 < Arwen> (TM)
2008-05-18 21:57 < gwern> 'Two years ago, the first press screening of "The Da Vinci Code" drew open laughter from Cannes critics, whose harsh reviews spoiled the film's premiere a day later and set the stage for a worldwide critical drubbing.'
2008-05-18 21:57 * gwern likes these cannes critics
2008-05-18 21:57 < cimon> ST47: well one might say the plural of cannon is artillery...
2008-05-18 21:57 < Lycurgus> followed by a smash success with US audiences
2008-05-18 21:57 < gwern> 'In its earliest incarnation, Lucas proposed an all-out alien flick called "Indiana Jones and the Saucer Men From Mars." Spielberg and Ford didn't like that idea, and it took more than a decade of wrangling to come up with a story all three could live with.' <-- no shit?
2008-05-18 21:57 < ST47> One could aslo say the plural of drop is gallon
2008-05-18 21:58 < gwern> Lycurgus: that's an indictment of US audiences if anything...
2008-05-18 21:58 < ST47> Or the plural of grain is beach
2008-05-18 21:58 < ST47> One would be wrong
2008-05-18 21:58 < cimon> hmm. you would say beach is an integral entity?
2008-05-18 21:59 < cimon> interesting.
2008-05-18 21:59 < ST47> A beach contains many sands
2008-05-18 21:59 < ST47> However a beach is not many sands
2008-05-18 21:59 < ST47> Nor is an artillery many cannons
2008-05-18 21:59 < ST47> An artillery is an artillery
2008-05-18 21:59 < cimon> Never really thought about that, but it is certainly to be pondered at.
2008-05-18 21:59 < gwern> what about a battery?
2008-05-18 21:59 < Lycurgus> an aggregate is not a plural
2008-05-18 22:00 < ST47> Even if one word means another, the first word's plural cannot be the second word.
2008-05-18 22:00 < cimon> heh, and an aggregate is not a battery either.
2008-05-18 22:00 < ST47> Yeah, what Lycurgus said
2008-05-18 22:00 < ST47> I think
2008-05-18 22:00 < cimon> an aggregate is a generator.
2008-05-18 22:00 < ST47> Well, not. A battery is a little roundish thing
2008-05-18 22:00 < Lycurgus> drop has a simple uniform pluralform: drops
2008-05-18 22:00 < gwern> 'You're right, George... it's hopeless. But there is one thing we can hope for - TO BE EATEN FIRST!' http://www.rubbersuitstudios.com/ptcct.htm
2008-05-18 22:00 < ST47> Cannon, cannons
2008-05-18 22:01 * gwern orders the battery to begin bombardment on ST47's vocabulary. be sure to sight in first, it's a small'un
2008-05-18 22:01 * cimon drops a subtle bilingual pun. In finland electrical generators using gasoline are called "aggregates".
2008-05-18 22:01 < gwern> cannon to the left of them, cannon to the right of them...
2008-05-18 22:01 < Lycurgus> (not to be confused with "drips")
2008-05-18 22:01 < ST47> I would imagine many things have different names in finland
2008-05-18 22:02 < ST47> They have their own lnaguage there, do they not?
2008-05-18 22:02 < Lycurgus> yeah, but everybody has to learn english
2008-05-18 22:02 < cimon> I frankly am quite clueless why somebody would call a dynamo running off an internal combustion engine an "aggregate".
2008-05-18 22:03 < Lycurgus> and another lang too IIRC
2008-05-18 22:03 < ST47> Like, finnish?
2008-05-18 22:03 < Lycurgus> no besides finnish
2008-05-18 22:03 < ST47> Swedish?
2008-05-18 22:03 < cimon> Perhaps because tehey are combining the two elements in one piece of machinery.
2008-05-18 22:05 < Mahlzahn> whats the "updated since my last visit" green stuff now in article histories?
2008-05-18 22:06 < cimon> Lycurgus: My next challenge: find a way to use the plural of "pitch drop" in a sentence.
2008-05-18 22:06 < Mahlzahn> is WP now tracking *visits* to articles?
2008-05-18 22:06 < gwern> pitch drops?
2008-05-18 22:06 < gwern> cimon: discuss the pitch drop experiments!
2008-05-18 22:06 < Lycurgus> ST47: article on finnish ed doesn't talk about it;cimon: d'oh!
2008-05-18 22:06 < cimon> gwern: not a sentence.
2008-05-18 22:07 < gwern> 'Have you heard about some of the longest running experiments? Yeah, they're tracking pitch drops and how long they take to fall. Been at it for more'n hunnerd years now. Impressive innit?'
2008-05-18 22:07 < Leslie_S> Mahlzahn omfg, 192.168.0.1 is reading [[obama]] again!
2008-05-18 22:08 < gwern> Leslie_S: liberal darky! let's string him up from the nearest tree
2008-05-18 22:08 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-05-18 22:08 < cimon> gwern: that isn't true. many much longer running experiments. There may be an impressive interval between observations, but not significantly longer than say transits of Venus...
2008-05-18 22:08 < Mahlzahn> Leslie_S: I can see this being a good way to catch socks.
2008-05-18 22:09 < Leslie_S> Mahlzahn [[User:Mahlzahn]] reads the exact same articles as [[User:Stephanie]]! Clearly he's her sock!
2008-05-18 22:09 < gwern> cimon: that's just data series, not experiments (although I'll admit I don't know if the pitch drop stuff are true experiments either)
2008-05-18 22:09 < gwern> by that logic, ice coring gets you thousands/millions year long observations of the atmosphere
2008-05-18 22:09 < The359> bah, lame
2008-05-18 22:10 < JasonBourne> is there anythin that vcan be done about wikipedias strong liberal european bias pieces?
2008-05-18 22:10 < cimon> gwern: well yes, I suppose there is an argument there...
2008-05-18 22:10 * The359 now has the oldest non-reviewed GA Nominee
2008-05-18 22:10 < bumm13> JasonBourne: example?
2008-05-18 22:10 < gwern> JasonBourne: yes. teach all those conservative africans english and get them some computers and internet connections, stat!
2008-05-18 22:10 < Messedrocker> conservative africans?
2008-05-18 22:11 < Messedrocker> astonishing! where can i find these Conservative Africans so that I may document them?
2008-05-18 22:11 < gwern> Messedrocker: you have a better opposite to 'liberal european'?
2008-05-18 22:11 < cimon> JasonBourne: Well, we still have our articles with strong european conservative bias too. Many of those from the PD edition of EB, for instance.
2008-05-18 22:11 < Lycurgus> he means conservative in the sense in which J.S. Mill referred to it in the famous quote
2008-05-18 22:11 < gwern> conservative australians? (but they're from england) conservative south americans? (actually, that's better, shares no hemisphere)
2008-05-18 22:11 < bumm13> most of those have been overwritten, I'd imagine
2008-05-18 22:11 < Lycurgus> ("not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative")
2008-05-18 22:12 < Mahlzahn> JasonBourne: yes, move to Europe... if thats where the fun is.
2008-05-18 22:13 < cimon> JasonBourne: for instance the article who put into motion Finlands eventual independence from Sweden (taking a detour via russian autonomic grand duchydom), is pretty rank Loyalist, monarchist bias crap...
2008-05-18 22:13 < Lycurgus> the ignorant and backward tend to be traditionalists, conservatives, that what it is backwardness clinging to the past and a percieved position one has in instutions grounded in it
2008-05-18 22:13 < Lycurgus> *that's
2008-05-18 22:13 < gwern> bumm13: the obscure ones have a lot of eb tone and detail left in them. the worst is gone yes, but the edits are like removing comments on how phrenology proves that africans are mongoloids
2008-05-18 22:13 < cimon> *artible on the man
2008-05-18 22:14 < Mahlzahn> "Finland's eventual independence from Sweden",... *snicker*
2008-05-18 22:15 < Enok|Walker> hay gang
2008-05-18 22:15 < Mahlzahn> gwern: its all over at Talk:Aryan now.
2008-05-18 22:16 < Lycurgus> but actually in Africa, the masses are in a inherently radicalized state, so except as one is willing to pander to and titillate and drive very diverse traditions, conservatism is likely to be a flop there
2008-05-18 22:16 < Lycurgus> s/radicalized state/radicalizing situation/
2008-05-18 22:16 < Mahlzahn> isn't that true for most of the 3rd world?
2008-05-18 22:16 < Lycurgus> the same could be said for the so-called american working class for that matter
2008-05-18 22:17 < bumm13> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080519/ap_on_re_as/korea_mass_executions <--- sad aspect of the Korean War
2008-05-18 22:17 < Mahlzahn> erm, "developing nations" I mean.
2008-05-18 22:17 < PovAddict> what is the appropriate template for a whole section that lacks citations?
2008-05-18 22:17 < PovAddict> should I just add {{fact}} at the end of the paragraph?
2008-05-18 22:17 < Lycurgus> the very expression "working class" shows where we are in history
2008-05-18 22:17 < Mahlzahn> {{unreferenced|section}}
2008-05-18 22:18 < cimon> hmm. some of the monarchist bias articles on Finlands national founding fathers have indeed swung a bit... G. M. Sprengtporten has in fact swng a bit too far into tin-foil, and romantic territory. (I confess, iam partly to blame for believing too readily the old national mythos of my own countries mythmakers... might need some pulling back...
2008-05-18 22:18 < PovAddict> Mahlzahn: thanks
2008-05-18 22:18 < Leslie_S> http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk279/semi-interesting/?action=view¤t=IMG_0650.jpg
2008-05-18 22:18 < Leslie_S> thats a hell of a billboard
2008-05-18 22:18 < Leslie_S> lmao
2008-05-18 22:19 < Alkivar> holy crap... Worst costume EVAR: http://www.made-in-england.org/692
2008-05-18 22:19 < Gracenotes> I wonder if there's any chance that the marriage issue in California could make the state go to the Republicans this general election. Kind of an idiotic idea, but... who knows.
2008-05-18 22:19 < Leslie_S> LOL Alkivar
2008-05-18 22:19 < Lycurgus> i doubt, not this year
2008-05-18 22:19 < Lycurgus> *it
2008-05-18 22:20 < PovAddict> Alkivar: want worst tatoo ever?
2008-05-18 22:20 < Leslie_S> PovAddict is it the one of the guy mowing a lawn, in the guy's bald spot?
2008-05-18 22:20 < Gracenotes> one state recognizing same-sex marriage before every general election = will be recognized in all states in 192 years
2008-05-18 22:21 < cimon> Anyone here have French?
2008-05-18 22:21 < PovAddict> Leslie_S: no
2008-05-18 22:21 < Lycurgus> FTM, I doubt the referndum for a DOMA will pass this time
2008-05-18 22:21 < cimon> What does "jeunesse dorée" mean?
2008-05-18 22:21 < PovAddict> http://mightygirl.com/2008/05/12/living-for-the-now/ (prolly NSFW)
2008-05-18 22:21 < bumm13> "DAEJEON, South Korea - Grave by mass grave, South Korea is unearthing the skeletons and buried truths of a cold-blooded slaughter from early in the Korean War, when this nation's U.S.-backed regime killed untold thousands of leftists and hapless peasants in a summer of terror in 1950."
2008-05-18 22:21 < Lycurgus> it only got 61% first time
2008-05-18 22:21 < Lycurgus> and that was some time ago
2008-05-18 22:21 < JasonBourne> whats the strongest country in the world right now
2008-05-18 22:22 < JasonBourne> militarily
2008-05-18 22:22 < gwern> some articles are kind of frustrating, from a copyright perspective; for example, [[Hacker Manifesto]] and [[This Is Just To Say]] - the original texts are short and popular, so people *keep* on trying to paste them in, despite the strongly worded comments not to
2008-05-18 22:22 < gwern> very annoying
2008-05-18 22:23 < Lycurgus> are there pointers to commons or wiktext or whatever?
2008-05-18 22:23 < gwern> Lycurgus: do you really think William Carlos Williams estate would give us a copy under the GFDL?
2008-05-18 22:24 < gwern> somewhat ironically, The Mentor did offer to license the Hacker Manifesto - for Wikipedia and wikipedia only. I had to decline :(
2008-05-18 22:25 < JasonBourne> ive heard the french has a strong military right now
2008-05-18 22:25 < JasonBourne> there ships look realy big
2008-05-18 22:25 < JasonBourne> do they have th biggest warships now?
2008-05-18 22:25 < Alkivar> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/entertainment/chi-0518_dunns-qmay18,0,327912.story <-- Comp-U-Serv still ruining lives
2008-05-18 22:25 < gwern> I would doubt it. their military has been starved for decades, and also by trying to do everything
2008-05-18 22:26 < Lubaf> I wish we had a {{nukefromorbit}} template.
2008-05-18 22:26 < gwern> jack of all trades...
2008-05-18 22:26 < Lubaf> [[Weinberg-Witten theorem]] could use it, for example.
2008-05-18 22:26 < Alkivar> remember our conversation in here the other day about people reading too much into poetry?
2008-05-18 22:26 < JasonBourne> why do french aircraft carrier look like banana's?
2008-05-18 22:26 < cimon> gwern: [[If-By-Whisky]] is likely safe though :D
2008-05-18 22:26 < JasonBourne> compared to the usa ones?
2008-05-18 22:26 < Alkivar> here's a classic example: http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/all-relig_seuss.6397186may17,0,72658.story
2008-05-18 22:27 < Alkivar> and even the widow of Seuss thinks its a crock or he'd have had more access
2008-05-18 22:27 < Alkivar> "For ''The Parables of Dr. Seuss,'' Short was again left to interpret on his own. He wasn't given permission to use any of the Seuss artwork and could only quote short passages from the stories."
2008-05-18 22:28 < gwern> cimon: hm I wonder if congressional speechs count as works of the federal govt
2008-05-18 22:28 < Messedrocker> i believe so
2008-05-18 22:30 < Alkivar> when you say congressional speeches
2008-05-18 22:30 < Alkivar> do you mean stuff in the house / senate?
2008-05-18 22:30 < Alkivar> or stuff done elsewhere?
2008-05-18 22:31 < gwern> Alkivar: good question. isn't there an official fed publication that all speeches have to go into? that might be our out
2008-05-18 22:31 < Alkivar> CSPAN/CSPAN-2
2008-05-18 22:31 < Messedrocker> also
2008-05-18 22:31 < Messedrocker> Metavid
2008-05-18 22:31 < cimon> "He undertook to seize the impregnable fortress of Sveaborg by a coup de main. " - hah, Sveaborg has ever only been impregnable in the imagination of its constructors... in practise it has been just about as impregnable as Paris HIlton...