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2008-05-17 04:28 < kila> B-rat: its not down for me..
2008-05-17 04:29 < B-rat> hm
2008-05-17 04:31 < Gazimoff> It's being tempremental
2008-05-17 04:32 < Gazimoff> Like a five year old investigating the ballistic parabolas of percussive instruments
2008-05-17 04:58 < Rachel> any psychology undergrad
2008-05-17 04:59 < Rachel> any psychology undergrad
2008-05-17 05:00 < Gazimoff> Nope, computer engineering. And I graduated with honours :)
2008-05-17 05:00 < jip26> Can I ask a wikipedia question?
2008-05-17 05:01 < pengo> a wikipedia question
2008-05-17 05:01 < pengo> !!
2008-05-17 05:01 < morwen> jip26: that'd be off-topic
2008-05-17 05:01 < morwen> :p
2008-05-17 05:01 < Rachel> anyone wanna help my room
2008-05-17 05:01 < Rachel> for academic discussions
2008-05-17 05:01 < Rachel> lolz
2008-05-17 05:02 < jip26> I changed a page, but I forgot to log in. Is there any way I can change my ip in the history to my nick?
2008-05-17 05:02 < Duesentrieb> jip26: no.
2008-05-17 05:03 < jip26> Duesentrieb: thanks
2008-05-17 05:03 < Enok|Walker> Is there liek, a good way to search magazines to find articles on a topic
2008-05-17 05:04 < Duesentrieb> Enok|Walker: depends on topic and magazine i guess. google scholar is pretty good for scientific publications. citeulike is good for that, too
2008-05-17 05:04 < pengo> Enok|Walker: libraries
2008-05-17 05:04 < Duesentrieb> those tend to such for anything CS-related :)
2008-05-17 05:04 < Duesentrieb> *suck
2008-05-17 05:23 < master_alvaro> hello
2008-05-17 05:23 < master_alvaro> is there any expert of flash technology?
2008-05-17 05:24 < master_alvaro> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adobe_Flash&diff=211883251&oldid=211830296
2008-05-17 05:24 < master_alvaro> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adobe_Flash&diff=211948098&oldid=211883485
2008-05-17 05:25 < master_alvaro> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adobe_Flash&diff=212862118&oldid=212783035
2008-05-17 05:25 < master_alvaro> it looks like vandalism
2008-05-17 05:25 * bumm13 is no Flash expert
2008-05-17 05:25 < master_alvaro> sorry for my poor English, but it isn't my native language
2008-05-17 05:26 < bumm13> sounds decent to me :)
2008-05-17 05:26 < The359> the 2nd one is obvious vandalism
2008-05-17 05:26 < master_alvaro> can you check revisions from outloged (not logged?) users?
2008-05-17 05:27 < bumm13> yup
2008-05-17 05:27 < bumm13> those show up as IP numbers
2008-05-17 05:27 < The359> just click their IP address in the article history
2008-05-17 05:27 < master_alvaro> can you fix it?
2008-05-17 05:27 < master_alvaro> The359: ^^
2008-05-17 05:28 < The359> they already have been
2008-05-17 06:55 * eth01 waves
2008-05-17 06:56 * Juliancolton sees movement and looks around
2008-05-17 06:57 * overra cries
2008-05-17 06:59 * Juliancolton hears noise and looks around
2008-05-17 06:59 * bbot bursts into flame
2008-05-17 06:59 * Juliancolton reverts bbot to last good revision
2008-05-17 07:08 * Gazimoff is exhausted after completing a 13-page GAN review
2008-05-17 07:23 < witold> does anybody know, where can I get the full (or maybe most often used) list of english morphemes?
2008-05-17 07:27 < cornholio> hello, I have a question (the Help channel seems to be deserted)
2008-05-17 07:28 < Juliancolton> Yes?
2008-05-17 07:28 < bbot> Why, do you need TP for your bunghole?
2008-05-17 07:28 < cornholio> heh
2008-05-17 07:29 < cornholio> Q: how/where can I question the notability of an article?
2008-05-17 07:29 < Juliancolton> [[WP:N]] is where you can find guidelines
2008-05-17 07:29 < bbot> Typically, deletionists are invited to take a long walk off a short pier.
2008-05-17 07:30 < Juliancolton> cornholio: What is the article in question?
2008-05-17 07:30 < cornholio> I am only a deletionist today :)
2008-05-17 07:30 < Juliancolton> If you believe an article is not notable enough to exist, you can [[WP:AFD]] it
2008-05-17 07:31 < cornholio> it's an article about a Dutch actor who committed suicide the day before yesterday, and apparently was never notable on the English Wikipedia while alive (I am Dutch, by the way)
2008-05-17 07:31 < Juliancolton> link please?
2008-05-17 07:31 < cornholio> moment please
2008-05-17 07:31 < Juliancolton> k
2008-05-17 07:32 < cornholio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youssef_Idilbi
2008-05-17 07:33 < Juliancolton> If all of those movies are [[red link]], it's probably not *that* notable
2008-05-17 07:33 < mattbuck> not for en.wp anyway
2008-05-17 07:34 < Juliancolton> Yeah
2008-05-17 07:34 < cornholio> suicide is not a theatrical achievement, methinks
2008-05-17 07:34 < cornholio> :)
2008-05-17 07:34 < Juliancolton> I'm not a deletionist, however, and I try to keep as many articles as possible :D
2008-05-17 07:34 * Juliancolton hates deletionists
2008-05-17 07:34 < cornholio> I would certainly support that as a guideline
2008-05-17 07:35 < Juliancolton> To hate deletionists?
2008-05-17 07:35 < Juliancolton> ;)
2008-05-17 07:35 < cornholio> no, to keep many articles
2008-05-17 07:35 < Juliancolton> If an article has even a sentence or two of good, factually accurite content, it deserves to be kept
2008-05-17 07:36 < Juliancolton> It's not like we're printed on paper or anything :_
2008-05-17 07:36 < Juliancolton> *:)
2008-05-17 07:36 < cornholio> but admitting this article would mean admitting articles for any Dutch actor on en.wikipedia
2008-05-17 07:36 < Juliancolton> They can come too
2008-05-17 07:37 < Juliancolton> Until I have evidence that our servers are getting full, I don't see a reason why any legitimate article to not exist
2008-05-17 07:37 < Juliancolton> *reason for
2008-05-17 07:39 < cornholio> I would prefer some notability criterion, although I realise it's not an easy thing to apply
2008-05-17 07:39 < Juliancolton> Well, yea, there's got to be notability guidelines
2008-05-17 07:40 < Juliancolton> I mean of course I don't want articles about every last garage band and John Q. Doe in the country
2008-05-17 07:41 < cornholio> people who are interested in mediocre Dutch actors can be expected to read Dutch, so they should consult nl.wikipedia rather than en.
2008-05-17 07:42 < Juliancolton> Agreed on that part
2008-05-17 07:42 < bbot> I disagree.
2008-05-17 07:42 < cornholio> we wouldn't want to copy imdb
2008-05-17 07:45 < bbot> [[Youssef Idilbi]] is 1196 characters. Assuming a byte per character, and zero compression, that's 1.67 KiB.
2008-05-17 07:45 < bbot> Is 1.67 KiB really that precious?
2008-05-17 07:46 < cornholio> that doesn't seem to be the right kind of argument
2008-05-17 07:46 < bbot> To the contrary, it's the only one that matters, and the only one that can be quantified in any reasonable manner.
2008-05-17 07:47 < cornholio> it means that anyone who thinks it's a good idea to honour a colleague with a wikipedia article should be allowed to do so, but that's not what wikipedia is for in my opinion
2008-05-17 07:48 < bbot> Why should he not be allowed to. In what manner is it harmful, exactly?
2008-05-17 07:49 < bbot> augh, question mark.
2008-05-17 07:49 < bbot> to?*
2008-05-17 07:49 < cornholio> non-harmfulness is not enough, I would hope
2008-05-17 07:51 < cornholio> I can understand people are in shock about a suicide, but that doesn't qualify as a criterion to burden en.wikipedia with an article - nl.wikipedia may be different, although I even doubt that
2008-05-17 08:52 < ThePolecat> they should rename "citation needed" to "I disagree"
2008-05-17 08:53 < ThePolecat> Would make the institution more honest.
2008-05-17 08:57 < mattbuck> lol
2008-05-17 08:58 < ThePolecat> that bothers me much more than systemic inaccuracies.
2008-05-17 10:05 < geniice> zis may be of interest http://www.k12handhelds.com/blog/2008/05/kids-copyright-and-open-content.php
2008-05-17 10:12 < iro> hello. some time ago, my nickname "Лис" was blocked (reason: inappropriate username), but now i read here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username_policy#Non-Latin_usernames ) that using cyrillics is actually allowed. can i get my nickname back?
2008-05-17 10:12 < geniice> no en is still in denial about that
2008-05-17 10:12 < Gohan-no-Neko> iro hi
2008-05-17 10:13 < Gohan-no-Neko> I'll post it now
2008-05-17 10:13 < iro> post? what? where?
2008-05-17 10:14 < iro> geniice: the article is made it clear that even Japanese nicknames are allowed
2008-05-17 10:14 < geniice> iro heh yes "allowed"
2008-05-17 10:15 < Gohan-no-Neko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Please_unblock_User:.D0.9B.D0.B8.D1.81
2008-05-17 10:16 < iro> Oh~ thank you :)
2008-05-17 10:16 < Church_of_emacs> dewp just reached 750k article milestone :)
2008-05-17 10:17 < geniice> and pl just reached 500k
2008-05-17 10:17 < Gohan-no-Neko> ru.wiki almost made it to the top 10
2008-05-17 10:32 < Gp75motorsports> Hey AzaTht, are you AzaToth?
2008-05-17 10:35 < geniice> Baidupedia has 1,115,428 articles
2008-05-17 10:36 < ThePolecat> Shalom.
2008-05-17 10:37 < ThePolecat> How did they do it?
2008-05-17 10:37 < ThePolecat> since there are so many thought prohibitions
2008-05-17 10:37 < ThePolecat> massive import?
2008-05-17 10:37 < KingOfAll> More open criteria for inclusion?
2008-05-17 10:38 < ThePolecat> I don't think there's even a contributor base sufficiently at ease for creating over a million articles.
2008-05-17 10:39 < nuke_js> any 'crats around?
2008-05-17 10:40 < ThePolecat> and as I said, there's lots of subjects that the Chinese would rather were not discussed.
2008-05-17 10:40 < Shiroi_Neko> iro
2008-05-17 10:40 < Shiroi_Neko> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#Please_unblock_User:.D0.9B.D0.B8.D1.81
2008-05-17 10:40 < Shiroi_Neko> unblocked
2008-05-17 10:40 < KingOfAll> Yeah, but not that many.
2008-05-17 10:41 < iro> yay, thank you :)
2008-05-17 10:41 < ThePolecat> I doubt that.
2008-05-17 10:41 < JessicaTaylor> I gotta sleepy - Night night everybody
2008-05-17 10:41 < ThePolecat> But then, I dunno.
2008-05-17 10:41 < E_Wing> Guys, how can you link a wiki userpage to another userpage of a wiki in another language?
2008-05-17 10:41 < KingOfAll> I mean, exclude political subjects, some historical subjects, thta leves plenty.
2008-05-17 10:41 < geniice> the good news is that en is still growing faster than Baidupedia
2008-05-17 10:41 < KingOfAll> *that
2008-05-17 10:41 < geniice> or at least looks like it did over the last few months
2008-05-17 10:41 < E_Wing> Lets say from en to tl?
2008-05-17 10:42 < ThePolecat> "Broader sense of an encyclopedia in that some reference materials such as lyrics are kept."
2008-05-17 10:42 < ThePolecat> Oh, alright.
2008-05-17 10:42 < ThePolecat> So they're also a copyright-ignoring source repository
2008-05-17 10:42 < ThePolecat> that explains it.
2008-05-17 10:42 < KingOfAll> "The English-language Wikipedia currently contains 2,376,157 articles."
2008-05-17 10:42 * KingOfAll is impressed.
2008-05-17 10:43 < geniice> I'm not
2008-05-17 10:43 < KingOfAll> Why not?
2008-05-17 10:43 < geniice> A completeish encyclopedia have between 10 and 100 times that number of articles
2008-05-17 10:44 < ThePolecat> Point to one?
2008-05-17 10:44 < KingOfAll> It's more complete than any other encyclopedia.
2008-05-17 10:44 < ThePolecat> I think the notion of completeness is meaningless.
2008-05-17 10:45 < geniice> We can try various attack methods to produce estimates of the size of a complete encyclopedia
2008-05-17 10:46 < ThePolecat> Any notion of completeness is arbitrary.
2008-05-17 10:46 < geniice> yes and no. One attack line is to consider how many people does it take to produce an article worthly subject
2008-05-17 10:47 < ThePolecat> and then?
2008-05-17 10:47 < geniice> then consider how many such groups the average person will be in and work from there
2008-05-17 10:47 < arcimboldo_> We can define it for a defined set, like "all members of American state senates since the foundation of the US.
2008-05-17 10:47 < ThePolecat> Well, yes.
2008-05-17 10:47 < geniice> arcimboldo_ and from that we can get something like all officials elected by over 10K people
2008-05-17 10:47 < ThePolecat> but for good reason, people can't agree on notability.
2008-05-17 10:48 < ThePolecat> Poor cardinals.
2008-05-17 10:48 < geniice> arcimboldo_ so wel take number of people in democries devide by 10K then multiply by the number of such positions the average person can vote for
2008-05-17 10:48 < arcimboldo_> but that only covers the aspect "politicians"
2008-05-17 10:48 < ThePolecat> (arbitrary)
2008-05-17 10:48 < arcimboldo_> How about geography?
2008-05-17 10:49 < KingOfAll> Highest 50 mountains in a country?
2008-05-17 10:49 < arcimboldo_> And please avoid the Earthist POV!
2008-05-17 10:49 < KingOfAll> And what is the Earthist POV?
2008-05-17 10:49 < arcimboldo_> KingOfAll: Nope, on German Wikipedia "every named geographic object is notable".
2008-05-17 10:49 < ThePolecat> KingOfAll: And the 51st has special social significance.
2008-05-17 10:49 < geniice> arcimboldo_the critical factors there are about when a setliment becomes article worthy (when generations*people>n what does n have to be)
2008-05-17 10:50 < ThePolecat> I agree most strongly with that.
2008-05-17 10:50 < ThePolecat> geniice: Impossible to verify.
2008-05-17 10:50 < geniice> actualy fairly trivial
2008-05-17 10:50 < arcimboldo_> geniice: It is not about settlements only ... it is about lakes, hills, botanical areas etc.
2008-05-17 10:50 < geniice> we look at various lists of places
2008-05-17 10:50 < geniice> ans see where they cut off
2008-05-17 10:51 < arcimboldo_> We can't even properly define what a species is
2008-05-17 10:51 * ThePolecat can't see why a historically important ghost town of four remaining inhabitants should be arbitrarily cut off
2008-05-17 10:51 < arcimboldo_> Especially when we go back in history.
2008-05-17 10:52 < geniice> arcimboldo_ phyiscal feautures are more complex yes but again you could probably build an attack line by plotting the number of features with recorded names within a given area over a few centries then extrapolateing from that
2008-05-17 10:52 < ThePolecat> that's a huge work fraught with uncertainties left right and center.
2008-05-17 10:52 < geniice> ThePolecat they arn't say 1 generation but several hundread people at a point in the past is safely above n
2008-05-17 10:52 < geniice> ThePolecat sure not easy but it can be done
2008-05-17 10:53 < ThePolecat> There are new towns less than twenty years old and indubitably significant.
2008-05-17 10:53 * ThePolecat doesn't believe in hard borders for notability
2008-05-17 10:53 < ThePolecat> I believe it's only a negative criterion, if at all.
2008-05-17 10:53 < geniice> ThePolecat> yup lots of people so even a fraction of a generation would put them over n
2008-05-17 10:54 < geniice> ThePolecat n is I think somewhere around 50 looking at where UK placenames cut off
2008-05-17 10:54 < geniice> between 20 and 50
2008-05-17 10:54 < ThePolecat> you don't know the foundation date for 95% of settlements in the world.
2008-05-17 10:54 < geniice> no but I don't have to care
2008-05-17 10:54 < iro> i'm trying to create a signature at the moment, tried '[[User:Лис|Лис]] ([[User talk:Лис|talk to lis]])', the second link works, but the first is just displayed as text (no link)
2008-05-17 10:54 < iro> is this fixable?
2008-05-17 10:54 < ThePolecat> then I don't get it.
2008-05-17 10:54 < geniice> 95% of settlements will exceed n in 1 generation
2008-05-17 10:55 < ThePolecat> so we'll have to wait?
2008-05-17 10:55 < geniice> not normaly
2008-05-17 10:55 < ThePolecat> apart from the fact that things need to be handle-able for people without a science degree
2008-05-17 10:55 < geniice> but yes if someone builds 10 new houses then yes we may have to wait a bit
2008-05-17 10:55 < ThePolecat> Why?
2008-05-17 10:55 < geniice> before that becomes an article worthy setlement
2008-05-17 10:56 < ThePolecat> Our readers want to read about it now.
2008-05-17 10:56 < geniice> 10 new 1 person houses? I doubt it
2008-05-17 10:56 < ThePolecat> I don't.
2008-05-17 10:56 < geniice> problem is that initaly there would be nothing to write
2008-05-17 10:57 < geniice> but once 2 generations have been through there may well be
2008-05-17 10:57 < ThePolecat> the whole concept is completely artificial and unwieldy.
2008-05-17 10:57 * ThePolecat strongly suggests an inclusion-friendly gut approach
2008-05-17 10:58 < geniice> unwieldy yes artificial no since it ultimately falls back on how people interact
2008-05-17 10:58 < ThePolecat> I don't interact like that.
2008-05-17 10:58 < geniice> yes you do
2008-05-17 10:59 < geniice> when two houses were built near you did you tell anyone outside your imediate social circle?
2008-05-17 10:59 < ThePolecat> I don't crunch numbers before deciding something is significant.
2008-05-17 10:59 * Messedrocker appreciates how he managed to get a page to HTML 4.01 Transitional compliance from the get go
2008-05-17 10:59 < geniice> no but you don't bewfore you catch an object either
2008-05-17 11:00 < geniice> yet I can mathmaticaly model catching
2008-05-17 11:00 < geniice> As an attack line for individual articles it isn't very useful but for trying to work out how may articles wikipedia should have it is the best avialible aproach
2008-05-17 11:00 < ThePolecat> not if you want to be open to people who don't
2008-05-17 11:01 < ThePolecat> hm
2008-05-17 11:01 < ThePolecat> As I said, considering the fact that things evolve every day, the concept of completeness has no meaning at all.
2008-05-17 11:01 < ThePolecat> brb
2008-05-17 11:03 < geniice> you are however limited to 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 articles assuming that you don't want any of them to be more than 1 byte in length
2008-05-17 11:03 < KingOfAll> Why?
2008-05-17 11:04 < geniice> KingOfAll because after that you run out of particles
2008-05-17 11:04 < KingOfAll> Ah, right.
2008-05-17 11:04 < KingOfAll> Knew it was either that or a software issue.
2008-05-17 11:05 < geniice> software can be modified (I suspect the current software wouldn't allow that many articles) but editing the total number of particles in the universe is more problematical
2008-05-17 11:05 < ThePolecat> I accept that limit :-)
2008-05-17 11:06 < geniice> ThePolecat> a 1 byte article is not very useful
2008-05-17 11:06 < ThePolecat> Perhaps you can make a case that identical things aren't worth talking about.
2008-05-17 11:06 < ThePolecat> (twice, that is)
2008-05-17 11:06 < KingOfAll> By that many articles, the software will have achived transcendence and become god, anyway.
2008-05-17 11:07 < ThePolecat> Windows Buddha
2008-05-17 11:07 < geniice> ThePolecat um depending on how you define that that either sets no limit or limits us to 18 articles
2008-05-17 11:07 < ThePolecat> probably a), although fictional structures that haven't been conceived don't warrant an article
2008-05-17 11:08 < ThePolecat> I'm not suggesting restriction to the distinguishable smallest particles
2008-05-17 11:08 < ThePolecat> and events don't follow that anyway, I'm afraid
2008-05-17 11:09 < ThePolecat> there'd have to be a whole different (and more restrictive) set governing inclusion of events
2008-05-17 11:09 < geniice> Occasionally, brown dwarfs collide with each other and form a new red dwarf star which will survive for billions of years, which is the only visible light source in the universe.
2008-05-17 11:09 < ThePolecat> nobody needs a history of Jimmy Carter's sneezes.
2008-05-17 11:10 < ThePolecat> (or maybe they do and we just can't provide one)
2008-05-17 11:10 < geniice> However, one could always draw stoic comfort from the possibility that perhaps in the course of time the new vacuum would sustain, if not life as we know it, at least some structures capable of knowing joy. This possibility has now been eliminated
2008-05-17 11:11 < ThePolecat> this smacks of a reference to something, but I'm not good at sci-fi
2008-05-17 11:11 < Enok|Walker> :o
2008-05-17 11:11 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_vacuum#Vacuum_metastability_event
2008-05-17 11:11 < geniice> wikipedia articles on the final fate of the universe
2008-05-17 11:13 * ThePolecat can't relate to that
2008-05-17 11:13 < geniice> strangely relivant to working out ultra theoretical aproaches as to how complete a record of things it is posible to create inside a universe
2008-05-17 11:14 < geniice> basicaly yes you calculate number of events before things repeate then devide that by number of particles and then divide by about 1000
2008-05-17 11:14 < Phoenixwi> [16:11] <Fujisan> you guys heard this news yet amagawd
2008-05-17 11:14 < Phoenixwi> [16:12] <Fujisan> Houston has been hit with a computer bug like no other: a swarm of ants that are eating through electronics. The “Crazy Raspberry Ants” are believed to have arrived in Texas aboard a cargo ship, and are causing widespread mayhem. For some unknown reason they are attracted to electrical equipment, which is causing problems for residents in the Deep South. The ants have...
2008-05-17 11:14 < Phoenixwi> ...destroyed PCs in homes and offices
2008-05-17 11:14 < Phoenixwi> [16:12] <Fujisan> It sounds like the plot of a farfetched science fiction movie. Unfortunately for the residents of Texas, it is very much a reality: billions of tiny reddish-brown ants have arrived onshore from a cargo ship and are hell-bent on eating anything electronic
2008-05-17 11:14 < Phoenixwi> [16:12] <Fujisan> Pest control specialists say that they are inundated with calls from homes and businesses now that the warm, humid season has begun, with literally billions of the ants wreaking havoc across the state. Worse, the ants refuse to die when sprayed with over-the-counter poison. Even killing the queen of a colony doesn’t do any good, because each colony has multiple queens.
2008-05-17 11:17 < geniice> Poincaré recurrence time for the universe is about 10^10^1100 so expect a very large number of events
2008-05-17 11:34 < Phoenixwi> Shiroi_Neko
2008-05-17 11:35 < splash_wp> I want to make an updated version of [[Image:UKExpenditure.svg]], which is PD by the original author. I would like to move it to Comons (easy), but I'd also like to license me *new* version under GFDL/CCBYSA. should i make a new image for the new licensing?
2008-05-17 11:35 < splash_wp> i.e. with a new image name, or shall i just overwrite the old one and update the licensing
2008-05-17 11:41 < geniice> make new image
2008-05-17 11:42 < splash_wp> geniice, hm...Stifle says do the other way!!
2008-05-17 12:16 < patbam> expand tags are retarded. there, i said it.
2008-05-17 12:31 < gwern> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/16/funny-pictures-iz-never-dun-dis-befor/ <-- nsfw furry
2008-05-17 12:33 < bbot> gwern: hurr
2008-05-17 12:33 < Cyrius> plushie, not furry
2008-05-17 12:34 < gwern> Cyrius: plushies are pretty furry
2008-05-17 12:34 < Cyrius> the difference seems a bit important
2008-05-17 12:42 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hi all
2008-05-17 12:43 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> anyone online?
2008-05-17 12:43 < gwern> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: no. we're none of us here
2008-05-17 12:44 < gwern> and didn't you retire?
2008-05-17 12:44 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I did
2008-05-17 12:44 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> visiting
2008-05-17 12:44 < gwern> I was looking up the history of {{fact}} and was surprised to see you apparently invented it
2008-05-17 12:44 < Traveler9> I thought he did
2008-05-17 12:44 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it's true
2008-05-17 12:44 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> my work lives on
2008-05-17 12:44 < MindstormsKid> ooooh
2008-05-17 12:44 < MindstormsKid> :P
2008-05-17 12:45 < The359> so he's the one we can blame for it?
2008-05-17 12:45 < MindstormsKid> :D
2008-05-17 12:45 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> so what's been happening in the world of Wikipedia?
2008-05-17 12:45 < morwen> ello
2008-05-17 12:45 < MindstormsKid> NYB left!!!
2008-05-17 12:45 < morwen> I invented stuff too!
2008-05-17 12:45 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> heya morwen
2008-05-17 12:45 < morwen> you can blame me for image tagging
2008-05-17 12:45 < gwern> so, all these years, I've been fact-bombed because of you -_-
2008-05-17 12:45 < MindstormsKid> Newyorkbrad
2008-05-17 12:45 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> morwen... ah, but {{fact}} is so much easier to apply
2008-05-17 12:45 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> you can slap it in and you get [citation needed]
2008-05-17 12:46 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> see how much simpler that was
2008-05-17 12:46 < MindstormsKid> :D
2008-05-17 12:46 < morwen> and also i invented using templates at the bottom of articles to link articles together.
2008-05-17 12:46 < morwen> i am REALLY SORRY about that one
2008-05-17 12:46 < MindstormsKid> ooohhh
2008-05-17 12:46 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> and so you should
2008-05-17 12:46 < MindstormsKid> nice one
2008-05-17 12:46 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> for myself, I apologise for creating [[WP:AN]]
2008-05-17 12:46 < morwen> and i invented wikipedians meeting up
2008-05-17 12:46 < MindstormsKid> oooh!
2008-05-17 12:46 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> one of those "good ideas at the time" sort of things
2008-05-17 12:46 < MindstormsKid> you made NYB leave :(
2008-05-17 12:46 < gwern> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: oh, we deleted Daniel Brandt
2008-05-17 12:47 < morwen> i _invented- Daniel Brandt
2008-05-17 12:47 < morwen> also i wrote the first version of WP:AGF
2008-05-17 12:47 < MindstormsKid> :D
2008-05-17 12:47 < gwern> and a ton of fiction articles have fallen under the axe, and BLP and BADSITES are alive and well, and Erik Moeller is apparently a pedophile, and so on
2008-05-17 12:47 < morwen> it was written as a cycnical piece of advice to give your opponent Enough Rope, rather than the hippy shit that it is now
2008-05-17 12:47 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Daniel Brandt?
2008-05-17 12:47 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> ah
2008-05-17 12:48 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> so pretty much business as usual I see
2008-05-17 12:48 < MindstormsKid> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, Newyorkbrad left wikipedia :(
2008-05-17 12:48 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> why so?
2008-05-17 12:48 < Shiroi_Neko> ta_bu_shi_da_yu? :)
2008-05-17 12:48 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hey Shiroi
2008-05-17 12:48 < MindstormsKid> umm...
2008-05-17 12:48 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> actually
2008-05-17 12:48 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it's cool
2008-05-17 12:48 < Shiroi_Neko> ta_bu_shi_da_yu how are you today?
2008-05-17 12:48 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I won't ask
2008-05-17 12:48 < gwern> morwen: lol. so kind of like how NOR was originally supposed to only be used against pseudoscience cranks, then...
2008-05-17 12:48 < MindstormsKid> it had something to do with morwen..
2008-05-17 12:48 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> tired!
2008-05-17 12:48 < MindstormsKid> i think...
2008-05-17 12:48 < MindstormsKid> :P
2008-05-17 12:49 < morwen> when did he leave?
2008-05-17 12:49 < Shiroi_Neko> ta_bu_shi_da_yu NYB's real identitiy was revealed by a troll
2008-05-17 12:49 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> a few weeks ago
2008-05-17 12:49 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> yeah, that sucks
2008-05-17 12:49 < MindstormsKid> march 29
2008-05-17 12:49 < morwen> well, couldn't have been me then
2008-05-17 12:49 < MindstormsKid> you created wikipedians meeting up
2008-05-17 12:49 < Shiroi_Neko> I do not understand NYB tho
2008-05-17 12:49 < MindstormsKid> it had something to do with a meet-up
2008-05-17 12:50 < MindstormsKid> i think
2008-05-17 12:50 < Shiroi_Neko> ta_bu_shi_da_yu so how have youo been? :P
2008-05-17 12:50 < MindstormsKid> [12:46:56] <morwen> and i invented wikipedians meeting up
2008-05-17 12:50 < MindstormsKid> :P
2008-05-17 12:50 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Shiroi_Neko: great! my baby is awesome :)
2008-05-17 12:51 < Shiroi_Neko> little_shi_sa_yu?
2008-05-17 12:51 < Shiroi_Neko> little_shi_sa_yu?da
2008-05-17 12:51 < gwern> I don't understand how NYB had so much time for WP if he was a lawyer
2008-05-17 12:51 < gwern> it makes me suspicious like Essjay did
2008-05-17 12:51 < Shiroi_Neko> gah
2008-05-17 12:51 < Shiroi_Neko> little_shi_da_yu?
2008-05-17 12:51 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> MindstormsKid: I invented breathing
2008-05-17 12:51 < MindstormsKid> ooooooh
2008-05-17 12:51 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it's true
2008-05-17 12:51 < MindstormsKid> XD
2008-05-17 12:51 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> look in the history!
2008-05-17 12:51 < Traveler9> gwern, well his credentials were verified
2008-05-17 12:51 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> gwern... isn't that a bit different?
2008-05-17 12:52 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> didn't Essjay claim to be something he wasn't?
2008-05-17 12:52 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> NYB never did that... least not that I know of
2008-05-17 12:52 < Traveler9> morwen, don't tell me - you created [[Main Page]]
2008-05-17 12:52 < Shiroi_Neko> NYB claimed to be law-related
2008-05-17 12:52 < morwen> Traveler9: no of course, not, i'm new
2008-05-17 12:52 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I once deleted [[Main Page]]
2008-05-17 12:52 < Shiroi_Neko> it was revealed he was telling the truth
2008-05-17 12:52 < Traveler9> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, he never lied
2008-05-17 12:52 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> to try to do a merge of course
2008-05-17 12:52 < Shiroi_Neko> NYB hence left
2008-05-17 12:52 < Shiroi_Neko> Traveler9 NYB regularly lied, once a day to sleep
2008-05-17 12:53 < MindstormsKid> ?
2008-05-17 12:53 < Traveler9> did he now
2008-05-17 12:53 < Shiroi_Neko> lie as in lie down
2008-05-17 12:53 < Shiroi_Neko> silly
2008-05-17 12:53 < Traveler9> ok
2008-05-17 12:53 < Traveler9> that's not at all funny
2008-05-17 12:53 < Shiroi_Neko> sure it is
2008-05-17 12:53 * ta_bu_shi_da_yu laughs and laughs
2008-05-17 12:54 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> :)
2008-05-17 12:54 < Shiroi_Neko> you lack a sense of humor Traveler9
2008-05-17 12:54 < MindstormsKid> >:(
2008-05-17 12:54 < Shiroi_Neko> shame NYB went
2008-05-17 12:54 < Traveler9> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, you have a cool nick
2008-05-17 12:55 < Traveler9> mine isn't very original
2008-05-17 12:55 < Messedrocker> ooh, tabooshie is here?
2008-05-17 12:55 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> ya... the one with the obscure username is here
2008-05-17 12:55 < Messedrocker> HI CHRIS
2008-05-17 12:55 < Messedrocker> HOW IS THE WIFE
2008-05-17 12:56 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> great :)
2008-05-17 12:56 < Working_Cat> IS SHE HOT?
2008-05-17 12:56 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hey, I notice you're on my slashdot freaks list
2008-05-17 12:56 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Working_Cat: yes
2008-05-17 12:56 < Shiroi_Neko> ta_bu_shi_da_yu I am not
2008-05-17 12:56 < Messedrocker> why am i?
2008-05-17 12:56 < Shiroi_Neko> it isnt me
2008-05-17 12:56 < gwern> have you stopped beating her yet?
2008-05-17 12:56 < Working_Cat> XD
2008-05-17 12:56 < Messedrocker> i mean i have an account
2008-05-17 12:56 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Messedrocker: dunno
2008-05-17 12:56 < nsh> fpifh
2008-05-17 12:56 < Messedrocker> do i freak you out?
2008-05-17 12:56 < Working_Cat> Messedrocker: yes
2008-05-17 12:57 < nsh> pfotp
2008-05-17 12:57 < Working_Cat> gwern: lol
2008-05-17 12:57 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I think that "freak" is one level better than "fan"
2008-05-17 12:57 * Messedrocker loads Mario Kart Wii and keeps it at the title screen, because the song is so cool!
2008-05-17 12:57 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> in fact... I was somewhat suprised how many fans I had!
2008-05-17 12:57 < nsh> ehhhwpi
2008-05-17 12:57 < Messedrocker> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, so does that mean you are a freak of me or i am a freak of you?
2008-05-17 12:57 < Working_Cat> nsh: ssshh
2008-05-17 12:57 * ta_bu_shi_da_yu tried to use nsh to login to my ubuntu system
2008-05-17 12:57 < Working_Cat> Messedrocker: you are a freak of nature
2008-05-17 12:57 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Messedrocker: dunno
2008-05-17 12:57 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I could never work out the slashdot system
2008-05-17 12:57 < nsh> anngneiiism, Working_Cat
2008-05-17 12:58 < Messedrocker> man, i don't even feel like racing. i just feel like listening to this title music
2008-05-17 12:58 < Lucifer_Cat> lizzen
2008-05-17 12:58 < nsh> yn mrneip enfpt
2008-05-17 12:58 < Lucifer_Cat> suft
2008-05-17 12:59 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> http://picasaweb.google.com/ta.bu.shi.da.yu/Emily/photo#5178453440376041330
2008-05-17 12:59 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> my fav photo ever
2008-05-17 12:59 < nsh> elmusn matnor ura, bsht
2008-05-17 13:00 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> also quite like this one
2008-05-17 13:00 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> http://picasaweb.google.com/ta.bu.shi.da.yu/Emily/photo#5178455214197534930
2008-05-17 13:00 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> which one do ppl like the best?
2008-05-17 13:00 < gwern> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: oh my god, it's hideous
2008-05-17 13:00 < gwern> I keep expecting it to croak and tell me I need to go on a quest to save the world
2008-05-17 13:01 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> lol
2008-05-17 13:01 < Shiroi_Neko> ta_bu_shi_da_yu I have low bw speed right now so I wont be able to see it
2008-05-17 13:01 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it's my angry little gnome
2008-05-17 13:01 < bumm13> oh, is that your daughter?
2008-05-17 13:01 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> yeah :)
2008-05-17 13:01 < Lucifer_Cat> fat
2008-05-17 13:01 < nsh> wait
2008-05-17 13:01 < bumm13> congrats :)
2008-05-17 13:01 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> straight from the womb
2008-05-17 13:01 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> thanks bumm
2008-05-17 13:01 < nsh> i'm sure you were like twelve a few years ago, ta_bu_shi_da_yu
2008-05-17 13:01 < Shiroi_Neko> oh
2008-05-17 13:01 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> they all look funny when they first come out
2008-05-17 13:01 < Shiroi_Neko> pedophilia
2008-05-17 13:01 < Shiroi_Neko> pictures of nude children!
2008-05-17 13:01 < Lucifer_Cat> lol teeeny weeny lil thing
2008-05-17 13:01 < Shiroi_Neko> omg omg!
2008-05-17 13:01 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> nsh I grew up pretty quickly
2008-05-17 13:01 < gwern> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: the latter, because it looks like you're about to perform a post-natal abortion; or eat it as a snack, I don't quite know how to interpet that grin
2008-05-17 13:02 < nsh> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, and how!
2008-05-17 13:02 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> lol!!!!!
2008-05-17 13:02 < Lucifer_Cat> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: wait a few days - amybe a week - it will start molding ad will look like ET. esp with their necks and all
2008-05-17 13:02 < nsh> the first picture is begging for captionation
2008-05-17 13:02 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> she's 8 weeks old now
2008-05-17 13:02 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> very cute
2008-05-17 13:02 < Lucifer_Cat> awww so sweet
2008-05-17 13:02 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> and more normal looking
2008-05-17 13:03 < Lucifer_Cat> did she go through the ET phase?
2008-05-17 13:03 < nsh> ooo, i have an idea
2008-05-17 13:03 < nsh> attach a voice-activated recording device to her
2008-05-17 13:03 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> actually... when she first came out she was a little squashed up... but my wife had an emergency caesarian so she didn't have a cone head :)
2008-05-17 13:03 < nsh> and then at night while she sleeps, play everything she's heard back to her in reverse
2008-05-17 13:03 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> she's my little leb
2008-05-17 13:03 < nsh> and see what effect it has on speech aquisition
2008-05-17 13:03 < Lucifer_Cat> btw, ta_bu_shi_da_yu you are the first normal looking family i have seen on WP
2008-05-17 13:03 < gwern> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: so not quite old enough to become veal yet
2008-05-17 13:03 < nsh> this could reveal fundamental information about cognitive development
2008-05-17 13:04 < gwern> nsh: no kidding
2008-05-17 13:04 < nsh> and might be funny
2008-05-17 13:04 < Lucifer_Cat> unless your baby still looks like a freak :P
2008-05-17 13:04 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Lucifer_Cat: thanks :)
2008-05-17 13:04 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> no, that first picture is my fav because it's so unlike how she looks now...
2008-05-17 13:04 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> she looks totally unimpressed
2008-05-17 13:04 < nsh> wait
2008-05-17 13:04 < nsh> even better
2008-05-17 13:04 < nsh> raise her in a room with a sloped floor
2008-05-17 13:04 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> she's like "This is it? right - put me back in!"
2008-05-17 13:04 < nsh> so she grows up thinking that gravity works at an angle
2008-05-17 13:05 < nsh> that would be hilarious
2008-05-17 13:05 < Lucifer_Cat> whos unimpressed by what
2008-05-17 13:05 * ta_bu_shi_da_yu slaps nsh around like a piece of old trout
2008-05-17 13:05 < Lucifer_Cat> nah: cruel but totally funny
2008-05-17 13:05 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> http://picasaweb.google.com/ta.bu.shi.da.yu/Emily/photo#5178453440376041330
2008-05-17 13:05 < gwern> 'so, this is life, huh? I sort of thought I'd be doing more.'
2008-05-17 13:06 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> http://picasaweb.google.com/ta.bu.shi.da.yu/Emily/photo#5178453242807545666
2008-05-17 13:06 < nsh> ...
2008-05-17 13:06 < nsh> warning sign
2008-05-17 13:06 < nsh> that picture ends in 666
2008-05-17 13:06 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> says it all really
2008-05-17 13:06 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> DON'T CLICK
2008-05-17 13:06 < nsh> you may be raising an antichristal child
2008-05-17 13:06 * Lucifer_Cat rejoices
2008-05-17 13:07 < Lucifer_Cat> I am Lucifer, and i approve of this child.
2008-05-17 13:07 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I swear, even when they don't go through the birth canal they look funny
2008-05-17 13:07 < Phoenixwi> I am a man with a gun and I don't approve of Lucifer
2008-05-17 13:07 < bumm13> happiness is a warm gun
2008-05-17 13:07 < Lucifer_Cat> Phoenixwi: by definition, you have turned to the dark side.
2008-05-17 13:08 < Lucifer_Cat> and a wet pussy
2008-05-17 13:08 < Phoenixwi> no
2008-05-17 13:08 < Lucifer_Cat> wait,
2008-05-17 13:08 < nsh> wow
2008-05-17 13:08 < Lucifer_Cat> wet puppy
2008-05-17 13:08 < Phoenixwi> no
2008-05-17 13:08 < nsh> the lolcatbible project already has 60% of the bible translated
2008-05-17 13:08 < bumm13> :|
2008-05-17 13:08 < Lucifer_Cat> yes
2008-05-17 13:08 < nsh> wait, 61%
2008-05-17 13:08 < Phoenixwi> by what defintion?
2008-05-17 13:09 < Lucifer_Cat> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: your nick is a pain to tabcomplete
2008-05-17 13:09 < nsh> the magic "someone wrote it on the front page" definition?
2008-05-17 13:09 < Traveler9> lmao
2008-05-17 13:09 < Cyrius> tbsdy
2008-05-17 13:09 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> heya Cyrius
2008-05-17 13:09 < bumm13> tabcomplete is for wimps
2008-05-17 13:09 < Messedrocker> aka Tabooshie
2008-05-17 13:09 < Phoenixwi> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, had any ip identification problems recently?
2008-05-17 13:09 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> tabcomplete is entirely necessary
2008-05-17 13:09 < Cyrius> I prefer the initialism, it makes him sound like frozen yogurt
2008-05-17 13:09 < nsh> yeah, i type nicks with my cocys
2008-05-17 13:09 < nsh> *cocyx
2008-05-17 13:09 < nsh> whatever
2008-05-17 13:09 < bumm13> heh
2008-05-17 13:09 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Phoenixwi: how do you mean?
2008-05-17 13:09 < nsh> that would be fun though
2008-05-17 13:10 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: no, it isn't. ta<tab>
2008-05-17 13:10 * nsh considers trying
2008-05-17 13:10 < bumm13> my hometown had a TCBY once; it's gone now
2008-05-17 13:10 < nsh> maybe after another beer
2008-05-17 13:10 < gwern> or t<tab><tab>, if you have a decent tab cycling impl
2008-05-17 13:10 < Phoenixwi> remember you used an ip for a bit and someoen kept putting messages beside them saying they were you?
2008-05-17 13:10 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Cyrius, first time I've been compared to frozen yoghurt
2008-05-17 13:10 < nsh> my tab cycling impl imploded
2008-05-17 13:10 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> guess there's a first for everything
2008-05-17 13:10 < Lucifer_Cat> ta<tab> has 2 matches. and my client isnt cool enough to cycle through
2008-05-17 13:10 < Cyrius> I'm pretty sure I've done it before
2008-05-17 13:10 < nsh> oh man, a tab-cycling imp would be awesome though
2008-05-17 13:10 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> believe me, I would have remembered :)
2008-05-17 13:11 < Lucifer_Cat> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: what was the first thing the baby was compared to? raisins? ET? freak? worm?
2008-05-17 13:11 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> gnome
2008-05-17 13:11 < Lucifer_Cat> heh
2008-05-17 13:11 * Cyrius started the TCBY article
2008-05-17 13:11 < bumm13> I couldn't imagine someone comparing a newborn baby to KDE
2008-05-17 13:12 < gwern> 'My brother-in-law, cigarette in one hand and bottle of beer in the other, fell backward over a balcony railing into a garden 15 feet below and landed flat on his back. The beer and smoke were unharmed. Great save, Rob!'
2008-05-17 13:12 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-05-17 13:12 < bumm13> Cyrius: frozen yogurt is alien to us Northwest peoples, I guess
2008-05-17 13:12 < Lucifer_Cat> lol at gwern too
2008-05-17 13:12 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> my baby is not very polished, but the base architecture is well written
2008-05-17 13:12 < nsh> Proverbs 11:3 - Bukkits will not sav u on teh Caturday of raff,
2008-05-17 13:12 < nsh> but gudness delibers a kitteh from deff. Whew! Dat wuz close!
2008-05-17 13:12 < bumm13> we know what it is, but we don't usually eat it ;p
2008-05-17 13:12 < gwern> hm. perhaps the caption could be 'wait, yoda's sending me *where*?'
2008-05-17 13:12 < gwern> I mean, come on, Luke got screwed over - leia got alderaan, and he got tatooine?
2008-05-17 13:13 < Lucifer_Cat> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: cool way to say "all wrinkled, but strong bones"
2008-05-17 13:13 < nsh> but luke got half of all merchandising
2008-05-17 13:13 < Lucifer_Cat> actually even her bones are all soft atm i think
2008-05-17 13:13 < nsh> that needs to be empirically verified
2008-05-17 13:13 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> she's at the stage of sticking her tongue out
2008-05-17 13:13 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> and we get lots of smiles now
2008-05-17 13:13 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> she's a very active baby!
2008-05-17 13:13 < nsh> wait, that's supposed to be a *stage*?!?
2008-05-17 13:14 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: he could drop her and find out
2008-05-17 13:14 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> nsh absolutely
2008-05-17 13:14 < Lucifer_Cat> nsh: its a "phase"
2008-05-17 13:14 < Lucifer_Cat> also, gwern, he could just give her a bear hug
2008-05-17 13:14 < Lucifer_Cat> tight one
2008-05-17 13:14 < nsh> Cyrius, what's a TCBY?
2008-05-17 13:14 < bumm13> Cyrius: looks like the Portland-Vancouver area has 5 TCBY locations
2008-05-17 13:14 < Cyrius> frozen yogurt store
2008-05-17 13:15 < Lucifer_Cat> i like how babies are all soft and squishy... begging to be sqeezes
2008-05-17 13:15 < nsh> oh, cool
2008-05-17 13:15 < Lucifer_Cat> grr my fingers are off today
2008-05-17 13:15 < nsh> do they contain formaldehyde?
2008-05-17 13:15 < Cyrius> uh...
2008-05-17 13:15 < nsh> wait
2008-05-17 13:16 < nsh> potasium benzonate
2008-05-17 13:16 * nsh never remembers that right for some reason
2008-05-17 13:16 < Lucifer_Cat> way to mix chemicals up
2008-05-17 13:16 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hmmm... can't work out if that formaldehyde comment is meant to be a response to either a. yoghurt, b. babies, or c. amputated fingers
2008-05-17 13:16 < nsh> *potassium benzoate
2008-05-17 13:16 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> either way nsh - freaky
2008-05-17 13:17 < nsh> the second google result under wikipedia will explain the mutilated reference
2008-05-17 13:17 < Messedrocker> the frogurt has potassium benzoate
2008-05-17 13:17 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> so I think that's I've helped create a spot of pop culture
2008-05-17 13:17 < Messedrocker> (that's bad)
2008-05-17 13:18 < nsh> Messedrocker wins
2008-05-17 13:18 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> with [[exploding whale]] and {{fact}}
2008-05-17 13:18 < nsh> next beer drunk in your honour
2008-05-17 13:18 < nsh> BE PROUD MANG
2008-05-17 13:18 < Messedrocker> nsh you knew i was alluding to the simpsons?
2008-05-17 13:18 * Cyrius is dealing with an attention-hogging cat
2008-05-17 13:18 < bumm13> =^o.o^=
2008-05-17 13:18 * Lucifer_Cat huggles Cyrius
2008-05-17 13:18 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I fear that NOBODY will care about [[Btreive]]
2008-05-17 13:18 < Cyrius> he keeps trying to put his head where my hands are
2008-05-17 13:19 < Lucifer_Cat> Cyrius: typical catty behaviot
2008-05-17 13:19 < bumm13> mine just walks on my keyboard while I use IRC :P
2008-05-17 13:19 < Messedrocker> he wubs you!
2008-05-17 13:19 < Cyrius> Messedrocker: he follows me around the house
2008-05-17 13:19 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> and as for [[History of the USA PATRIOT Act]]... maybe I shouldn't have done it as a user subpage
2008-05-17 13:19 < nsh> Messedrocker, i was alluding to the simpsons, which was the cause of your cryptomnesic allusion
2008-05-17 13:19 < Lucifer_Cat> Cyrius: its asking for a nice rub
2008-05-17 13:19 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> now I'm not in that article's history at all :(
2008-05-17 13:20 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> even though I wrote almost the entire thing
2008-05-17 13:20 < Lucifer_Cat> aww :(
2008-05-17 13:20 < Messedrocker> nsh, frozen yogurt + potassium benzoate = creepy guy saying "The frogurt has potassium benzoate... that's bad."
2008-05-17 13:20 < Cyrius> he's also taken to waking me up by standing on my pillow and licking my forehead
2008-05-17 13:20 < Lucifer_Cat> go play with the kid... will make you feel better
2008-05-17 13:20 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> can't.
2008-05-17 13:20 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it's 3:20 in the morning
2008-05-17 13:20 < nsh> Messedrocker, yeah, i mentioned it because Cyrius said he'd created an article about a frozen yoghurt store