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2008-05-13 04:14 < kisbes> or is there a Template maybe?
2008-05-13 04:18 < andres> Im note sure, as this change wasnt backed out for quite some time, but does this belong to the main article: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disk_encryption_theory&diff=191454375&oldid=189878125
2008-05-13 04:25 < Warpath> heh
2008-05-13 04:28 < Werdna> ffs
2008-05-13 04:28 < Aqwis> hmz
2008-05-13 04:29 < WikiziB24> why was Troplock kicked?
2008-05-13 04:29 < Werdna> spamming joins/parts, spammed before as well, jumping proxies.
2008-05-13 04:30 * Werdna rolls eyes
2008-05-13 04:30 < Warpath> wheeeeee
2008-05-13 04:30 < WikiziB24> lol I see
2008-05-13 04:31 < Warpath> not a good ban :O
2008-05-13 04:31 < Kamping_Kaiser> :o
2008-05-13 04:31 < Werdna> Warpath: deliberately over-broad
2008-05-13 04:31 < Werdna> bans any chatzilla clients coming from an IP address, redirects to #wikimedia-ops
2008-05-13 04:31 < Warpath> yup
2008-05-13 04:32 < WikiziB24> that's not good surely
2008-05-13 04:32 * The359 goes to #wikimedia-ops to see what happens there
2008-05-13 04:33 < The359> your topic was cut off, Werdna
2008-05-13 04:33 < Werdna> I know
2008-05-13 04:35 * Werdna almost kickbanned YourEyesOnly
2008-05-13 04:35 < Gambit> XD
2008-05-13 04:35 < Werdna> then I realised it was actually a real user :P
2008-05-13 04:35 < YourEyesOnly> O.O
2008-05-13 04:36 * Werdna huggles YourEyesOnly
2008-05-13 04:36 < The359> he's clearly deserving of it anyway
2008-05-13 04:37 < chzz> Err...sorry to bother you here, but...I've been asking for help on -en-help and -en for 30 mins...can someone sort me out? \o/ help!
2008-05-13 04:37 < Werdna> chzz: we don't mind. what's up?
2008-05-13 04:38 < chzz> The article is [Eastwood, Nottinghamshire]
2008-05-13 04:38 < Werdna> uhuh?
2008-05-13 04:38 < chzz> There's a peer review going on
2008-05-13 04:38 < chzz> I've just spent *ages* tidying up the peer review page at Peer review/Eastwood, Nottinghamshire/archive1 - it was getting all confusing, so I moved stuff into sections to allow inline replies; put a notice explaining what I'd done, and all that.
2008-05-13 04:38 < Aqwis> and?
2008-05-13 04:38 < Aqwis> hmz
2008-05-13 04:38 < chzz> ...but foolishly, I moved the peer review notice doohicky, and now it all looks a bit odd in Peer review/Eastwood, Nottinghamshire/archive1
2008-05-13 04:39 < chzz> ...but I don't want to loose all my careful reorganising 'coz it was tricky to make sure I did it right, keeping all comments, etc etc
2008-05-13 04:39 < chzz> I mean, I think I've stuffed up the listing on Wikipedia:Peer_review by moving the peer review doohicky
2008-05-13 04:39 < Werdna> the doohicky?
2008-05-13 04:39 < chzz> The {{peer-review}} doodah
2008-05-13 04:40 < chzz> I now realise I shouldn't have moved it, and by doing so, I think it's stuffed the listing on the peer review list thingy
2008-05-13 04:46 < chzz> err
2008-05-13 04:46 < chzz> anyone?
2008-05-13 04:46 * Mike_H NP: Air Supply - Sweet Dreams (1982)
2008-05-13 04:47 < Werdna> trying removing the ban
2008-05-13 04:47 < chzz> oh, having IRC troubles?
2008-05-13 04:47 < JessicaTaylor> *cough* /Mode #wikipedia -b %*!n=chatzill@*.*.*.*#wikimedia-ops *cough*
2008-05-13 04:48 * Werdna NP: Something - Jim Sturgess - Across the Universe soundtrack
2008-05-13 04:48 < Werdna> JessicaTaylor: eh?
2008-05-13 04:50 < Werdna> mode is +JLcfknt
2008-05-13 04:50 < Werdna> wtf?
2008-05-13 04:50 * chzz is well confused
2008-05-13 04:50 < chzz> Is this thing on?
2008-05-13 04:50 < Werdna> why do we have +k?
2008-05-13 04:51 < Werdna> 08:30 -!- mode/#wikipedia [+tncLfJ #wikimedia-overflow 7,1]
2008-05-13 04:51 < Werdna> apparently we don't.
2008-05-13 04:52 < Gambit> werd no K heer ;p
2008-05-13 04:52 < Werdna> yeah, my client must be confused
2008-05-13 04:52 < Gambit> +tncLfJ
2008-05-13 05:02 < bbot> http://www.eurointelligence.com/article.581+M56281b9bdf3.0.html
2008-05-13 05:03 < Mike_H> Werdna: I just looked up how many Starbucks there are in town
2008-05-13 05:03 < Mike_H> and I'm really shocked
2008-05-13 05:03 < Mike_H> I didn't know we had that many
2008-05-13 05:03 < WikiziB78> how many are there
2008-05-13 05:03 < Mike_H> I live in Tampa
2008-05-13 05:03 < Mike_H> there are 50.
2008-05-13 05:03 < Mike_H> 67 in Orlando
2008-05-13 05:03 < Mike_H> 75 in Atlanta
2008-05-13 05:03 < Mike_H> and 86 in Miami.
2008-05-13 05:04 < bbot> Mike_H: Link?
2008-05-13 05:06 < Mike_H> bbot: Starbucks.com has a store locator map
2008-05-13 05:06 < WikiziB78> bbot: are you a bot?
2008-05-13 05:07 < bbot> 106 in seattle, apparently.
2008-05-13 05:07 < bbot> hah
2008-05-13 05:07 < bbot> WikiziB78: Yes, yes I am.
2008-05-13 05:07 < WikiziB78> :@
2008-05-13 05:13 * denelson83 paces back and...                     forth
2008-05-13 05:13 < STalKer-X> what did supergeek want of me? :x
2008-05-13 05:49 * Lycurgus just learned a new word: "wheelhouse".
2008-05-13 05:49 < Flo_1> bad translation of "Rathaus"? 9_9
2008-05-13 05:50 < Lycurgus> no, phonetic similarity, but no connection.
2008-05-13 05:50 < Flo_1> i know
2008-05-13 05:50 < Flo_1> therefore it would have been a *bad* translation :D
2008-05-13 05:50 < Lycurgus> (unless there is a cognate 'radhaus')
2008-05-13 05:51 < Lycurgus> a mistranslation weil Rat != Rad
2008-05-13 05:57 < chzz> I like the wictionary example: The pitch was right in his wheelhouse, and he hit a salami.
2008-05-13 06:14 < Werdna> 09:51 <@Werdnabot> #en.wikipedia RC: [[User:Werdna/blah]] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Werdna/blah&diff=212077395&oldid=212077314 * Werdna * (+0)
2008-05-13 06:14 < Werdna> 09:52 <@Werdnabot> #en.wikipedia RC: [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Pegasus * deleted "[[User:Werdna/blah]]": User-requested deletion of page in their own userspace ([[WP:CSD#U1|CSD U1]])
2008-05-13 06:14 < Werdna> that was quick
2008-05-13 06:14 < Werdna> I bet that guy's a bot
2008-05-13 06:28 < WBOSITG> Hello all.
2008-05-13 07:40 < The359> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k_31ALdBwoc lulz
2008-05-13 07:49 < StayTuned> :)
2008-05-13 08:33 < yao_ziyuan> 8-)
2008-05-13 08:34 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-05-13 08:34 < brown_cat> PEDO!!!!
2008-05-13 08:34 * brown_cat smacks yao_ziyuan up with a bat
2008-05-13 08:34 < yao_ziyuan> a bat
2008-05-13 08:35 < brown_cat> yes
2008-05-13 08:35 < brown_cat> a bat
2008-05-13 08:36 < yao_ziyuan> a bat (bat the animal: 蝙蝠; bat the racket: 球拍)
2008-05-13 08:37 < brown_cat> use your brain
2008-05-13 08:37 < brown_cat> ugh
2008-05-13 08:37 * yao_ziyuan has no brain
2008-05-13 08:38 * brown_cat sings "if only I had a brain"
2008-05-13 08:38 < yao_ziyuan> brown_cat smacks yao_ziyuan up with a [蝙蝠? 球拍?]
2008-05-13 08:44 < yao_ziyuan> this earthquake
2008-05-13 08:44 < yao_ziyuan> plus the previous snowstorm
2008-05-13 08:45 < yao_ziyuan> creates a great mindshift
2008-05-13 08:45 < yao_ziyuan> "heaven punishes china"
2008-05-13 08:45 < yao_ziyuan> for what it has done at home and abroad
2008-05-13 08:46 < yao_ziyuan> my province's capital shifted 1cm in a sudden
2008-05-13 08:47 < yao_ziyuan> *offset
2008-05-13 09:05 < chzz> If I think a user is a bot - but their page and name don't say they are - where do I report it?
2008-05-13 09:07 < Cream> is gossip banned on #wikipedia?
2008-05-13 09:08 < Kjoonlee> hi
2008-05-13 09:08 < Cream> hi Kjoonlee
2008-05-13 09:08 < Cream> <3
2008-05-13 09:10 < Lycurgus> I am beginning to IRC as a great landscape filled with burnable bridges.
2008-05-13 09:10 < Lycurgus> just torched #drupal
2008-05-13 09:10 < Cream> you wanna torch a channel
2008-05-13 09:10 < Cream> try #Uncyclopedia
2008-05-13 09:11 < Lycurgus> well after you torch you need to leave and not comeback, either for a long time or foreever
2008-05-13 09:11 < Lycurgus> I'd never even go to that one so it's pre-torched
2008-05-13 09:12 < Lycurgus> you know like the preborn
2008-05-13 09:12 < Cream> I'm banned there anyways
2008-05-13 09:12 < Cream> from too much trolling :P
2008-05-13 09:12 < Lycurgus> I dont' troll as such but I sure can ruffle some tail feathers
2008-05-13 09:13 < Lycurgus> btw, don't think it was a fox a saw the other day think maybe it was a coyote. Too big for a fox.
2008-05-13 09:27 < Lycurgus> *I
2008-05-13 09:28 * Mahlzahn waves
2008-05-13 09:28 * Lycurgus waves back
2008-05-13 09:29 < Mahlzahn> all quiet on the western front?
2008-05-13 09:31 < nsh> it doesn't matter what i'm looking at on amazon
2008-05-13 09:31 < nsh> every discussion on "related forums" is about evolution
2008-05-13 09:31 < nsh> or rather, about idiots arguing over what they don't know about what they think is evolution
2008-05-13 09:31 < Aqwis> evolution is an unamerican lie!
2008-05-13 09:31 < Aqwis> as opposed to american lies, such as intelligent design
2008-05-13 09:32 < Aqwis> which are far better
2008-05-13 09:40 < kenlyric> evolution is a *british* lie
2008-05-13 09:41 < kenlyric> damn redcoats
2008-05-13 09:41 < snowolf> ??
2008-05-13 09:42 < jayvdb> is anyone able to help me with unicode and romanisation of Chinese ?
2008-05-13 09:43 < jayvdb> see http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Sacred_Books_of_the_East_3.djvu/315 ; the Z in "Zo Kwan" is obviously wrong, but I cant find the right unicode character for it :(
2008-05-13 09:46 < bumm13> the main Chinese/CJK character range in Unicode has 20,901 characters
2008-05-13 09:46 < bumm13> so it's really tough to sift through if you aren't familiar with Chinese language
2008-05-13 09:50 < jayvdb> hi CMoreschi
2008-05-13 09:50 < CMoreschi> helloo
2008-05-13 10:08 < grobda24> What do people think of the wiki markup export plugin for OO ?
2008-05-13 10:10 < grobda24> I wonder if there should be an external edit button for text like there is for images. It would solve this WYSIWYG editor problem.
2008-05-13 10:18 < quanticle> grobda24: Wikimarkup isn't supposed to be WYSIWYG. Its still markup, just simplified.
2008-05-13 10:20 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Any plans to torch #wikipedia?
2008-05-13 10:29 < ghost> quanticle .... quanticle ... I know ! But take it out of the Wikimedia system into OO and then it _IS_ WYSIWYG in the users system. Export it back to Wikimedia and it's markup again.
2008-05-13 10:30 < ghost> ghost = grobda24 ... duh.
2008-05-13 10:30 < bumm13> huh?
2008-05-13 10:30 * ghost router is being a $%&^%% :(
2008-05-13 10:32 < Rinn> It's being a dollar sign percent sign ampersand accent percent sign percent sign, is it?
2008-05-13 10:32 < brown_cat> O_O
2008-05-13 10:32 * brown_cat cuddles Rinn
2008-05-13 10:33 * Rinn dies
2008-05-13 10:33 < brown_cat> ARGHH!!!
2008-05-13 10:33 < brown_cat> ARGHH!!!
2008-05-13 10:33 < brown_cat> ARGHH!!!
2008-05-13 10:33 < brown_cat> ARGHH!!!
2008-05-13 10:33 < brown_cat> ARGHH!!!
2008-05-13 10:33 < brown_cat> ARGHH!!!
2008-05-13 10:33 < bumm13> wah waaaaah
2008-05-13 10:33 * brown_cat dies
2008-05-13 10:33 * brown_cat brings Rinn back to life
2008-05-13 10:37 < quanticle> ghost: I guess so. I just know that most WSIWYG editors for markup languages produce horribly inefficient output.
2008-05-13 10:37 < quanticle> At some point you have to rely on the user to be not a total retard.
2008-05-13 10:44 < Mahlzahn> which is wishful thinking given the average wp editor. :)
2008-05-13 10:47 < quanticle> Mahlzahn: Well, I'm not sure about that. The average Wikipedia editor knows enough wikimarkup to change the text, and do basic things like lists and tables. Do we all need to know the intricacies of template code? I don't think so.
2008-05-13 10:47 < Mahlzahn> yes, that would be overkill.
2008-05-13 10:48 < Mahlzahn> and wouldn't stifle the penchant of linking everything (dates being the worst)
2008-05-13 10:49 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-05-13 11:02 < quanticle> Sometimes I <3 Slashdot so much. Look at the story categories for the China Earthquake - http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/13/0245240
2008-05-13 11:03 < Working_Cat> finally someone took the silliness out of the topic
2008-05-13 11:04 * Working_Cat is thankful he does not have to move again for a year
2008-05-13 11:04 < quanticle> Working_Cat: All moved in?
2008-05-13 11:04 < Working_Cat> yeah.
2008-05-13 11:05 < Working_Cat> final trip made: 2:00 AM
2008-05-13 11:06 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-05-13 11:06 < Working_Cat> showing up at work at 7:30 am after 4 hours of sleep and a whole evening of cleaning scrubbing packing and driving across town all by yourself is so much fun
2008-05-13 11:07 < Working_Cat> hey Fabexplosive
2008-05-13 11:07 < bumm13> hiya Fabexplosive
2008-05-13 11:08 < Working_Cat> bumm13: i saw what you did last night
2008-05-13 11:08 < Fabexplosive> hoi Working_Cat
2008-05-13 11:08 < Fabexplosive> hey bumm13
2008-05-13 11:10 < quanticle> Working_Cat: How's the new place?
2008-05-13 11:10 < Working_Cat> clean and empty
2008-05-13 11:10 < Working_Cat> its a major improvement over the last one.
2008-05-13 11:11 < Working_Cat> bigger, better location, closer to work, and I get to choose the furniture
2008-05-13 11:12 < Working_Cat> if i can afford it that is.
2008-05-13 11:14 < quanticle> Nice. Yeah, you just bought a new car, didn't you?
2008-05-13 11:15 < Working_Cat> yeah.
2008-05-13 11:16 < Working_Cat> well i could buy the furniture off credit ofcourse and pay it off without much difficulty, but dont wanna do that.
2008-05-13 11:16 < Working_Cat> i'll save up and buy it when i can pay up front. basically, i'll buy something every month for a few months.
2008-05-13 11:17 < quanticle> Yeah. I just got into an argument with my parents the other day about credit. They want me to get a credit card so I can build up my credit history. Of course, I'm dead set against it.
2008-05-13 11:18 < quanticle> I've managed with cash and my check card for this long. I don't really see any reason to change.
2008-05-13 11:19 < Working_Cat> quanticle: actually its a good idea to get one. a very good one.
2008-05-13 11:19 < Working_Cat> get a citibank mtv card while youre still a student
2008-05-13 11:19 < Working_Cat> and pay it off every month
2008-05-13 11:19 < Working_Cat> will help you with getting a loan.
2008-05-13 11:20 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Yeah, its just that I'm really disorganized, so I'm terrified of accidentally making a late payment and screwing my credit history for the next five years.
2008-05-13 11:20 < Working_Cat> trying to finance your car without a built up history is not fun.
2008-05-13 11:20 < Working_Cat> quanticle: welcome to online payments.
2008-05-13 11:21 < Working_Cat> in that case, you can always look for a card that offers automated payments.
2008-05-13 11:21 < Working_Cat> quanticle: also, sign up on RememberTheMilk
2008-05-13 11:21 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Yeah, this is why my car loan was in my dad's name. I didn't have enough of a credit history to get a good deal.
2008-05-13 11:21 < Working_Cat> thats how i manage without screwing up.
2008-05-13 11:21 < Working_Cat> and learn the way of the hipster pda
2008-05-13 11:23 < Fireaxe888> yello
2008-05-13 11:23 < Fireaxe888> any septics here?
2008-05-13 11:23 * Working_Cat is an antiseptic
2008-05-13 11:25 < Working_Cat> im wondering how the "its a lounge, not a living room" look will work out for my living room
2008-05-13 11:26 < Fireaxe888> cockney rhyming slang,get it
2008-05-13 11:28 < quanticle> Fireaxe888: Cockney, or piker?
2008-05-13 11:29 < Fireaxe888> i dont buy cheap goods
2008-05-13 11:32 < Working_Cat> so you just steal them?
2008-05-13 11:35 < Fireaxe888> nope
2008-05-13 11:35 < Fireaxe888> I but mid-priced goodes
2008-05-13 11:35 < Fireaxe888> goods
2008-05-13 11:37 < Working_Cat> SIGHUP
2008-05-13 11:38 < Pilotguy> sighdown
2008-05-13 11:38 < Working_Cat> SIGKILL
2008-05-13 11:38 < Working_Cat> sup Pilotguy
2008-05-13 11:41 < Fireaxe888> 69 percent of mthe software in my country is illegal
2008-05-13 11:44 < Working_Cat> just 69?
2008-05-13 11:44 < Working_Cat> must have been one hell of a country
2008-05-13 11:46 < bumm13> hiya Demi
2008-05-13 11:46 < Demi> hi bumm13
2008-05-13 11:47 < Working_Cat> Demi Gonzales
2008-05-13 11:48 < Demi> i don't feel speedy this morning
2008-05-13 11:49 < Working_Cat> whats a good brand for televisions?
2008-05-13 11:49 < Working_Cat> Demi: me neither. i was moving till very late last night. not feeling speedy at all.
2008-05-13 11:54 < Demi> same here, though i imagine our notions of late are somewhat different
2008-05-13 11:54 < Demi> i've got some chili and eggs going, though, and some coffee, so i plan to feel better soon
2008-05-13 11:58 < Working_Cat> since i have a regular job now, my very late = 2:30 am
2008-05-13 11:58 < Demi> yeah, my "very late" is more like 1:00 am
2008-05-13 11:59 < Working_Cat> im getting there XD
2008-05-13 11:59 < Demi> age, what it does to you
2008-05-13 11:59 < Working_Cat> 6 months ago, very late was 5am
2008-05-13 12:00 < Working_Cat> these days i feel sleep deprived if i am not in bed by 11:30
2008-05-13 12:01 < Working_Cat> Demi: whats a good brand for a tv?
2008-05-13 12:01 < Mahlzahn> that depends on what you want from your TV
2008-05-13 12:01 < Demi> i don't know, for tubes it was sony, i think
2008-05-13 12:01 < Demi> but i haven't been looking for a TV for a long time
2008-05-13 12:02 < Mahlzahn> for tubes I won't accept anything but a 100Hz TV any more. I'm spoiled rotten.
2008-05-13 12:03 < Working_Cat> Mahlzahn: just a screen that puts up a decent picture.
2008-05-13 12:03 < Mahlzahn> and being spoiled rotten, I intensely dislike LCD or plasma
2008-05-13 12:03 < Working_Cat> does not even have to be all that big.
2008-05-13 12:03 < Cyrius> 100Hz? where are you going to find a TV signal that refreshes that fast?
2008-05-13 12:03 < bumm13> lol
2008-05-13 12:03 < Mahlzahn> Working_Cat: any chinese thingie will give you a decent picture.
2008-05-13 12:03 < Working_Cat> the one i have atm is 6-7 years old.
2008-05-13 12:03 < Demi> aren't all you kids watching the youtube, anyways?
2008-05-13 12:04 < bumm13> with its pristine video quality
2008-05-13 12:04 < Mahlzahn> Cyrius: you are kidding, right?
2008-05-13 12:04 < Working_Cat> Demi: we need to connect our consoles to something.
2008-05-13 12:04 < Demi> oh, right
2008-05-13 12:04 < Cyrius> Mahlzahn: uh, no?
2008-05-13 12:04 < Demi> are you buying a TV just to play GTAIV?
2008-05-13 12:05 < Working_Cat> anyways, they include cable in my rent. im buying to enjoy free cable.
2008-05-13 12:05 < Cyrius> TV signals don't have a 100Hz frame rate
2008-05-13 12:05 < Mahlzahn> Cyrius: 100 Hz TVs are 100 Hz refresh, not 100 Hz frame rate.
2008-05-13 12:05 < Working_Cat> (makes perfect sense to shell out like what, 500 bucks for that)
2008-05-13 12:05 < Cyrius> Mahlzahn: same thing
2008-05-13 12:05 < Mahlzahn> nooo
2008-05-13 12:06 < Mahlzahn> even basic tvs have a "refresh" higher than frame rate.
2008-05-13 12:06 < Cyrius> even worse if you're trying to display a signal that 100 isn't an even multiple of
2008-05-13 12:06 < Cyrius> which is the case in the US
2008-05-13 12:06 < bumm13> or Japan, Canada...
2008-05-13 12:06 < Mahlzahn> thats not how it works either.
2008-05-13 12:07 < Cyrius> a "basic" tv is a CRT that runs at the NTSC or PAL refresh frequency
2008-05-13 12:07 < Mahlzahn> which is 50 or 60 Hz
2008-05-13 12:08 < Mahlzahn> no TV signal is 50 or 60 Hz
2008-05-13 12:08 < Cyrius> you're kidding, right?
2008-05-13 12:08 < Mahlzahn> nope
2008-05-13 12:08 < Cyrius> NTSC has a 60Hz frame rate
2008-05-13 12:08 < Cyrius> well
2008-05-13 12:08 < Cyrius> field rate
2008-05-13 12:08 < Mahlzahn> yep
2008-05-13 12:08 < Demi> i'm going to do some telecining, pull-down, deinterlacing and some other stuff i don't understand
2008-05-13 12:08 < bumm13> Mahlzahn: you're not confusing the picture standard with the transmission frequency, are you?
2008-05-13 12:08 < Working_Cat> heh
2008-05-13 12:09 < Mahlzahn> bumm13: no
2008-05-13 12:09 < Cyrius> there's little point to redrawing the screen faster than the fields come in
2008-05-13 12:09 < Mahlzahn> sure there is.
2008-05-13 12:09 < bumm13> ...
2008-05-13 12:09 < Working_Cat> spending energy.
2008-05-13 12:09 < Mahlzahn> or do you have your old monitor refereshing only when the screen contents changed?
2008-05-13 12:10 < Cyrius> Mahlzahn: my computer is capable of updating the screen as fast as the screen can keep up with
2008-05-13 12:10 < Cyrius> a TV signal isn't
2008-05-13 12:10 < Demi> i'm not looking forward to buying a new TV. all my internal dialogs look like this whenever i have to shop for something
2008-05-13 12:10 < Working_Cat> like the one these kids are having?
2008-05-13 12:10 < Cyrius> Demi: just make sure you don't get some wal-mart special that doesn't do digital
2008-05-13 12:11 < Working_Cat> do HDTVs do digital?
2008-05-13 12:11 < Mahlzahn> 100Hz TVs buffer fields, then create pad fields so there is no jitter between fast moving frequencies.
2008-05-13 12:11 < Cyrius> I recall hearing they still had some of those around
2008-05-13 12:11 < Mahlzahn> s/frequencies/sequences/
2008-05-13 12:11 < Darth_Oompa> Hello.
2008-05-13 12:12 < Cyrius> Working_Cat: some of the really old ones didn't, iirc
2008-05-13 12:12 < Darth_Oompa> zf
2008-05-13 12:12 < Cyrius> (really old being relative)
2008-05-13 12:12 < Working_Cat> hmmm
2008-05-13 12:12 < Working_Cat> and if that darth guy does it again, im kicking him
2008-05-13 12:12 < bumm13> go for it
2008-05-13 12:13 < Working_Cat> except that im not good with kickban regexes :S
2008-05-13 12:13 < Demi> my current TV is a Zenith that's 10-12 years old
2008-05-13 12:13 < Working_Cat> i'll end up banning mibbit :P
2008-05-13 12:13 < Vike91> Hello
2008-05-13 12:14 < Vike91> Who here can do PHP?
2008-05-13 12:14 < Working_Cat> the drug?
2008-05-13 12:14 < Mahlzahn> Cyrius: before de-flicker, but the principle still applies => http://www.avforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-20196.html
2008-05-13 12:14 < Mahlzahn> s/de-flicker/de-jitter/
2008-05-13 12:14 < Vike91> We need to fix the code saved at http://vike91.forumakers.com/programming-f4/php-help-with-numa-script-t18.htm
2008-05-13 12:14 < NonvocalScream> omg how cute
2008-05-13 12:14 < NonvocalScream> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/75903/
2008-05-13 12:15 < Cyrius> okay, I can see flicker being perceptible on a big CRT running at 50Hz
2008-05-13 12:15 < Working_Cat> ebaums world... ummm... no thanks.
2008-05-13 12:16 < Cyrius> so just get an LCD =P
2008-05-13 12:16 < bumm13> Vike91 - #php
2008-05-13 12:16 < Mahlzahn> the same applies to LCDs. But 100Hz LCDs without good de-jitter circuits suck big time.
2008-05-13 12:17 < Cyrius> I've never heard of an LCD flickering, and don't even know what the mechanism would be
2008-05-13 12:19 < Fireaxe888> anyonr here play starport galactic empires?
2008-05-13 12:19 < Fireaxe888> anyone
2008-05-13 12:24 < _Bolt_> Is anyone available to help me?
2008-05-13 12:24 < Fire> How can we help you?
2008-05-13 12:24 < Mahlzahn> What do you need help with?
2008-05-13 12:24 < _Bolt_> Well...
2008-05-13 12:24 < _Bolt_> I'm tired of being reverted on the Univision article by anon IPs
2008-05-13 12:24 < Dendodge> Join #wikipedia-en-help for a better response in future
2008-05-13 12:25 < The359> he's getting a response here
2008-05-13 12:25 < _Bolt_> I *think* those Ips are Ericthebrainiac sockpuppets, but I'm not sure
2008-05-13 12:26 < The359> have you requested for semi-protection?
2008-05-13 12:26 < _Bolt_> No, I don't know how
2008-05-13 12:26 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection
2008-05-13 12:26 < Mahlzahn> Bolt: WP:RPP
2008-05-13 12:26 < The359> follow the instructions
2008-05-13 12:26 < The359> request semi-protection
2008-05-13 12:27 < The359> because of various IPs vandalizing
2008-05-13 12:27 < _Bolt_> Thank you
2008-05-13 12:27 < Mahlzahn> Bolt: is it the 'Current Daytime Telenovelas' section you have a problem with?
2008-05-13 12:27 < _Bolt_> exactly
2008-05-13 12:27 < _Bolt_> I don't think those are necessary
2008-05-13 12:28 < Mahlzahn> Invoke WP:NOT - Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collector of information.
2008-05-13 12:28 < bumm13> supposedly
2008-05-13 12:29 * The359 hides his database pages
2008-05-13 12:29 < Mahlzahn> try reverting again, and refer to a talk section where you justify your removal.
2008-05-13 12:30 < Mahlzahn> If you still get rv'd, then you have a case of BRD breakdown for failure to discuss.
2008-05-13 12:31 < Mahlzahn> just fyi - always accompany your rvs with a comment on a talk page - if not in article talk, then on user talk.
2008-05-13 12:32 < _Bolt_> okay
2008-05-13 12:32 < Mahlzahn> by reverting without even attempting to discuss, you lower yourself to your opponent's level and are then just at fault for warring.
2008-05-13 12:33 < _Bolt_> Then there's guys called Ericthebrainiac. He even "adopted" me without asking first, and looks like he's driving crazy other users
2008-05-13 12:33 < Mahlzahn> in other words, always stick to the moral highground.
2008-05-13 12:34 < _Bolt_> hehe, Ctrl_Z is here too
2008-05-13 12:38 < Mahlzahn> well, there's your RPP
2008-05-13 12:38 < _Bolt_> yes
2008-05-13 12:40 < _Bolt_> wow, that was a quick answer
2008-05-13 12:42 < Mahlzahn> none of those IPs are in Texas, which is where Ericthebrainiac purportedly lives. The nearest IP is in Arizona.
2008-05-13 12:43 < _Bolt_> i see
2008-05-13 12:44 < _Bolt_> he used to say that Spanish was his real language
2008-05-13 12:44 < _Bolt_> Now he says its English
2008-05-13 12:44 < _Bolt_> :P
2008-05-13 12:51 < Mahlzahn> Well, I think this says a great deal about Eric: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/El_Sueno_del_Siempre
2008-05-13 12:52 < _Bolt_> yes, he makes up fictional soap operas
2008-05-13 12:53 < _Bolt_> Plus, its "Sue�o", not "Sueno"
2008-05-13 12:53 < _Bolt_> And if he wants to say "Forever's Dream", then it would be "Sue�o Interminable", no "El Sueno de Siempre"
2008-05-13 12:54 < _Bolt_> but who cares
2008-05-13 12:55 < Mahlzahn> right. WP:DGAF always rules. :)
2008-05-13 12:56 < _Bolt_> Well,
2008-05-13 12:57 < _Bolt_> thanks for all the help
2008-05-13 12:57 < _Bolt_> I'm leaving. Bye
2008-05-13 12:57 < Mahlzahn> np glad it worked out for you.
2008-05-13 13:01 < nsh> no
2008-05-13 13:07 < Mahlzahn> no?
2008-05-13 13:07 < Lobster> what do the #nnnnn placeholders in the place of a user link mean in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Everyking ?
2008-05-13 13:07 < Gracenotes> UIDs
2008-05-13 13:07 < Lobster> why are the users not shown?
2008-05-13 13:10 < Mahlzahn> contain unicode characters perhaps?
2008-05-13 13:12 < Lobster> :/
2008-05-13 13:12 < Lobster> does that happen in page histories too?
2008-05-13 13:13 < Gracenotes> no, it's related to autoblocks, and user privary
2008-05-13 13:13 < Gracenotes> acy
2008-05-13 13:13 < Working_Cat> autoblocks v/s megatrolls
2008-05-13 13:15 * Working_Cat huggles the channel mustelid
2008-05-13 13:16 * Working_Cat expects a response :|
2008-05-13 13:16 < Working_Cat> THEPOLECAT
2008-05-13 13:16 < Netsniper> my cat returned home today
2008-05-13 13:17 < ThePolecat> Sup.
2008-05-13 13:17 < Working_Cat> Netsniper: that means it has arranged for your assasination
2008-05-13 13:17 < Working_Cat> i said i huggled the channel mustelid
2008-05-13 13:17 < Netsniper> had her spayed
2008-05-13 13:17 < Working_Cat> ouch
2008-05-13 13:22 < TorstenK> hi
2008-05-13 13:23 < TorstenK> Does anybody know when will wikipedia weekly be published?
2008-05-13 13:25 < Working_Cat> hey mag
2008-05-13 13:29 < SynergeticMag> hey working_cat
2008-05-13 13:32 < SynergeticMag> i'm glad i have the day off
2008-05-13 13:44 < Working_Cat> dont rub it in SynergeticMag
2008-05-13 13:44 < SynergeticMag> man i had a long work week
2008-05-13 13:44 < SynergeticMag> i'm tired
2008-05-13 13:44 < Working_Cat> more on it later. now, back to work...
2008-05-13 13:44 < Working_Cat> SynergeticMag: hmmm... i moved to a new apartment across town yesterday.
2008-05-13 13:45 < Working_Cat> cya later.
2008-05-13 13:45 < SynergeticMag> later
2008-05-13 14:19 < Lycurgus> NP: "Junkie Tools" by Tremolo Beer Gut
2008-05-13 14:22 < quanticle> NP: Bleach - Episode 101
2008-05-13 14:25 < quanticle> Is it just me, or does Bleach have one of the best set of opening themes? I mean, the only one that I know that was obviously better was Cowboy Bebop
2008-05-13 14:26 < White_Cat> quanticle
2008-05-13 14:26 < White_Cat> omg
2008-05-13 14:26 * White_Cat traps quanticle in Hueco Mundo...
2008-05-13 14:26 * White_Cat slaps quanticle a bit with a large menos grande...
2008-05-13 14:26 * quanticle blocks with a Zanpaktou
2008-05-13 14:26 < quanticle> Tsenbonsakura, to be precise
2008-05-13 14:27 * White_Cat burries quanticle under a pile of menos grande.
2008-05-13 14:28 < bumm13> anime?
2008-05-13 14:28 < quanticle> bumm13: Indeed.
2008-05-13 14:28 < bumm13> suckage ;p
2008-05-13 14:28 * quanticle is getting caught up, now that school's out
2008-05-13 14:42 * Lycurgus is full of contempt for Drupal.
2008-05-13 14:45 < Lycurgus> but what the fuck did I expect from the best php CMS
2008-05-13 14:46 < quanticle> Zope ftw?
2008-05-13 14:46 < Lycurgus> *arguably the best
2008-05-13 14:47 < Lycurgus> Zope isn't a CMS is it?
2008-05-13 14:47 < Lycurgus> maybe I'm thinking of Zend
2008-05-13 14:47 < quanticle> Yeah. Zope is python based.
2008-05-13 14:47 < Lycurgus> yeah I see that. I hate python too.
2008-05-13 14:48 < Lycurgus> php, python, ruby, perl, they all make me wanna fucking puke.
2008-05-13 14:48 < Lycurgus> and ruby in advance since have'nt used it yet
2008-05-13 14:49 < Lycurgus> I kid. They're not that bad.
2008-05-13 14:50 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Meh. Perl and Python aren't bad. Ruby is nice, but fucking slow. And, PHP, well, PHP is the VB6 of web programming.
2008-05-13 14:52 < Lycurgus> I'll admit the (descinding) order of sophistication would be python, ruby, php/perl.
2008-05-13 14:52 < Lycurgus> *descending
2008-05-13 14:52 < quanticle> Naw. I'd put Perl above Ruby. Perl is quite sophisticated, if you can read it.
2008-05-13 14:53 < Lycurgus> well I don't know much about it so gave it a little bit of a benefit of doubt
2008-05-13 14:53 < Demi> what is "sophisticated" supposed to mean?
2008-05-13 14:53 < Lycurgus> in a computer science sense
2008-05-13 14:53 < quanticle> Demi: Sophistication == closeness to Lisp
2008-05-13 14:54 < Demi> i think context alone probably puts perl at the bottom of that list
2008-05-13 14:54 < quanticle> Nonsense. Perl has better support for lambda expressions than Python.
2008-05-13 14:54 < Lycurgus> lisp, haskell, squeak, or prolog are my choices
2008-05-13 14:54 < Demi> and ruby above python, if only for first-class anonymous functions
2008-05-13 14:54 < White_Cat> quanticle
2008-05-13 14:55 < White_Cat> you are on ep 101?
2008-05-13 14:55 < quanticle> White_Cat: ep 102 now
2008-05-13 14:55 < White_Cat> ^^
2008-05-13 14:55 * quanticle is in nearing the end of the Bount story line
2008-05-13 14:55 < White_Cat> oh the filler arc
2008-05-13 14:56 < quanticle> Its not so bad. Not nearly as bad as the Naruto filler arcs.
2008-05-13 14:56 < White_Cat> that had taken forever to end
2008-05-13 14:56 < White_Cat> Naruto fillers are not arcs
2008-05-13 14:56 < White_Cat> Naruto fillers are full of crap
2008-05-13 14:56 < White_Cat> litteraly
2008-05-13 14:56 < White_Cat> they had one episode on crap
2008-05-13 14:56 < White_Cat> I felt so insulted
2008-05-13 14:56 < quanticle> Wait what?
2008-05-13 14:57 < Demi> i think you mean carp
2008-05-13 14:57 < Demi> japanese people eat them
2008-05-13 14:57 < White_Cat> Demi naruto is not japanese
2008-05-13 14:57 < White_Cat> he is from the fire country
2008-05-13 14:57 < gwern> quit carping
2008-05-13 14:58 < White_Cat> gwern once you start, you cant stop
2008-05-13 14:58 < gwern> White_Cat: oh please. are you going to argue that naruto is set in modern times because we see tvs and stuff?
2008-05-13 14:58 < White_Cat> Naruto is set in an alternate universe
2008-05-13 14:58 < White_Cat> you need the tardis and a tough amount of luck to go between alternate universes
2008-05-13 15:00 < gwern> lol
2008-05-13 15:00 * gwern forgives White_Cat
2008-05-13 15:01 < Demi> "Molly Shannon and Selma Blair in a remake of an Australian comedy called Kath And Kim"
2008-05-13 15:01 < Demi> oh, and they're making a sequel to donnie darko
2008-05-13 15:04 < White_Cat> darko?
2008-05-13 15:06 < TorstenK> Phoenix
2008-05-13 15:06 < Phoenixwi> ...
2008-05-13 15:08 < gwern> Demi: how can they make a sequel? 'e's dead!
2008-05-13 15:08 < Demi> it's titled "S. Darko" or something, and is about his sister, i believe
2008-05-13 15:08 < gwern> oh great. can't they just leave his family alone?
2008-05-13 15:08 * gwern notes that's, what, all the kids dead now?
2008-05-13 15:10 < Demi> 'The new movie, "S. Darko," will follow Donnie's 18-year-old younger sister -- an elementary school student in the first film -- as she road-trips across country and gets into some serious scrapes. Kelly is not involved, though one distributor attached to the project said, "Donnie's not in [the new film] but there are meteorites and rabbits."'
2008-05-13 15:12 < The359> stupid
2008-05-13 15:12 < The359> should at least not be the same family
2008-05-13 15:13 < Demi> at least it's retaining the core themes and values of donnie darko: meteorites and rabbits
2008-05-13 15:14 < The359> All it needs is a small token apperance by a child actor for some odd reason
2008-05-13 15:26 < ThePolecat> "(Can't contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.0.231))"
2008-05-13 15:27 < Wizardman> is wiki down for anyone else?
2008-05-13 15:27 < Wizardman> nm
2008-05-13 15:29 < Garfieldairlines> slo=w²
2008-05-13 15:31 < Voyaging> wp down?
2008-05-13 15:31 < Demi> "This program has unexpectedly quit, because an error of type 1 occurred."
2008-05-13 15:31 < Garfieldairlines> yup
2008-05-13 15:32 < Voyaging> thanks
2008-05-13 15:32 < ThePolecat> back up every now and then, but generally down
2008-05-13 15:32 < Demi> a coworker of mine once coded a program with the error message: "Error: Something happen"
2008-05-13 15:32 < ThePolecat> Error:We get no signal.
2008-05-13 15:34 < Demi> how dated is all your base now? 8 years? 9?
2008-05-13 15:40 < cimon> you know what? 1600×1200 doesn't really look all that hot on my 17 inch tube...
2008-05-13 15:41 < cimon> there is a massive temptation to go back to 1280×1024
2008-05-13 15:42 < cimon> ...I am just worried if I do, I can't ever return...
2008-05-13 15:42 < MooingLemur> Demi: 7.3
2008-05-13 15:54 < Mahlzahn> do editors with rollback privs have a "revert" link in Special:RecentChanges?
2008-05-13 15:54 * Mike_H NP: Air Supply - Sweet Dreams (1982)
2008-05-13 15:59 < Working_Cat> meow?
2008-05-13 16:01 < Working_Cat> DerHexer has joined the building.
2008-05-13 16:01 * ThePolecat is off to spend some more time with his family
2008-05-13 16:02 < Working_Cat> ThePolecat: you mean the folks over at #uncyc?
2008-05-13 16:02 < ThePolecat> (allusion intended)
2008-05-13 16:02 < DerHexer> yeah ;)
2008-05-13 16:02 < Mahlzahn> Working_Cat: could you hex away the vandals, trolls and other undesirable species?
2008-05-13 16:02 * ThePolecat is off to spend time in the bathtub, the toaster is already there
2008-05-13 16:02 < Working_Cat> Mahlzahn: i was not announcing my arrival
2008-05-13 16:02 < Mahlzahn> erm, wrong nick, but the message presumably got through.
2008-05-13 16:03 < Working_Cat> Mah: Meh.
2008-05-13 16:04 * Mike_H dances with ThePolecat to Air Supply's "Sweet Dreams"
2008-05-13 16:04 * Sky2042 shows up.
2008-05-13 16:04 < ThePolecat> Must I, Miss Sophie?
2008-05-13 16:04 < ThePolecat> brb
2008-05-13 16:04 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: You're such a graceful dancer!
2008-05-13 16:04 < snowolf> Mike_H: how long is that song? it's been 10minutes!
2008-05-13 16:04 * Working_Cat sings SixPenceNoneTheRicher's Kiss Me
2008-05-13 16:04 < ThePolecat> o.o
2008-05-13 16:04 < Mike_H> snowolf: I'm playing it over and over again :(
2008-05-13 16:04 < Mike_H> it's five minutes long
2008-05-13 16:05 * Working_Cat thumps some skulls as if he knows what hes doing.
2008-05-13 16:08 < pakaran> hi, I was just looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:One_Ring_inscription.svg - the image claims to be GFDL, but my concern is that even a short phrase in a created language might raise some sort of copyright issues
2008-05-13 16:08 < snowolf> ?
2008-05-13 16:08 < snowolf> you sure?
2008-05-13 16:08 < pakaran> i don't know
2008-05-13 16:08 < pakaran> I thought i'd mention it in case it was problematic
2008-05-13 16:09 < Gp75motorsports> Hey!
2008-05-13 16:10 < Demi> there's also the issue that if you can't utter the Black Speech of Mordor aloud without consequences, that places additional restrictions on it, making it impossible to appropriately reuse and therefore the GFDL would be inapplicable.
2008-05-13 16:10 < Mike_H> snowolf: now I've switched to Gloria
2008-05-13 16:10 < Mike_H> by Laura Branigan
2008-05-13 16:10 < Mike_H> :DD
2008-05-13 16:10 < snowolf> Mike_H: don't bother, I dunno any of the songs you play
2008-05-13 16:11 < Mike_H> snowolf: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SdVEM5WMDo0
2008-05-13 16:11 < Mike_H> Get acquainted, mister pister!
2008-05-13 16:11 < snowolf> I know only National Anthems, Patriotic Music & Film Soundtracks XD
2008-05-13 16:12 < Sky2042> Demi: not nice :(
2008-05-13 16:14 < Demi> i read that inscription as "chuzz-a-wuzz-a-feff. chuzz-wu-wu-poopf / chuzz-a-wuzz-a-feff. wham-a-chigg-i-poopf"
2008-05-13 16:15 < Demi> i'm close, right?
2008-05-13 16:15 < pakaran> hastur hastur hastur?
2008-05-13 16:15 < TorstenK> "Ich will Dir nur ein Wort sagen. Nur ein Wort. Plastik"
2008-05-13 16:16 < gwern> 'He wasn't yet ensorcelled by the chemical, and yet with full awareness of his own agony he went through the previously unthinkable process of putting all this together. It must have been something like jumping from a plane with a strange backpack and a pamphlet entitled "Your Parachute." The hope was that his mind would be in the correct gear sometime before coming into contact with the Earth's crust.'
2008-05-13 16:16 < snowolf> Mike_H: naaaaaaaaah tried, now you try this XD http://youtube.com/watch?v=C_A7Hu0uKNw (my favourite song from them has no decent video on youtube :( )
2008-05-13 16:17 < gwern> pakaran: ia! ia! shub niggurath!
2008-05-13 16:26 < Working_Cat> lol ashfire has a cool quit msg
2008-05-13 16:26 < Demi> will more coffee improve the situation?
2008-05-13 16:27 < Working_Cat> sure
2008-05-13 16:28 < Working_Cat> coffee always helps
2008-05-13 16:28 < Working_Cat> but i like my coffee with lotsa milk and lotsa sugar
2008-05-13 16:28 < Demi> i basically do too
2008-05-13 16:29 < Working_Cat> lol a funny thing happened once in my compilers class
2008-05-13 16:29 < Working_Cat> its an 8 am class and for a grad student, thats like late night
2008-05-13 16:29 < Working_Cat> so basically, i took coffee to class
2008-05-13 16:29 < Demi> i hope this anecdote doesn't end with someone spewing coffee and exclaiming "Yacc!"
2008-05-13 16:30 < Working_Cat> Demi: lol
2008-05-13 16:30 < TorstenK> Does anybody know when will wikipedia weekly be published?
2008-05-13 16:30 < Working_Cat> anycase, moving along
2008-05-13 16:30 < Demi> right, you have your coffee
2008-05-13 16:30 < Working_Cat> so my prof asked me what was in the coffee, i said milk coffee chocolate powder and some extra flavoring
2008-05-13 16:31 < Working_Cat> hes like "milk?... you put milk in you coffee?... i bet theres more milk in that mug than coffee"
2008-05-13 16:31 < Working_Cat> and my roomie, who was also in the class was staring at him as if "how ELSE would it be like"
2008-05-13 16:32 < Working_Cat> <to put it in context, indians have like a 2 part milk: 1 part tea/coffee ratio, whereas americans seem to not like milk in their tea/coffee>
2008-05-13 16:32 < Demi> not that much, anywa5y
2008-05-13 16:33 < Messedrocker> Working_Cat, actually many americans do
2008-05-13 16:33 < Working_Cat> Messedrocker: yeah, but lot of people like black tea and coffee
2008-05-13 16:34 < Demi> i had a boss (a grandboss, actually), who used to start the day by making a super-concentrated coffee sludge from instant coffee, and then mixing that with a huge quantity of sweetened milk into a gigantic mug
2008-05-13 16:34 < Demi> and he would drink it all day
2008-05-13 16:34 < Working_Cat> if you drink black tea in india, either your family will give you nasty looks or at the least your friends will think you have rocked out of your rocker
2008-05-13 16:34 < Demi> possibly the strangest part of that story is that he felt the need to tell it, as opposed to something i observed
2008-05-13 16:34 < Working_Cat> haha
2008-05-13 16:35 * Working_Cat throttles Jetro
2008-05-13 16:35 < Jetro> throttle?
2008-05-13 16:35 < Jetro> hm.
2008-05-13 16:35 * Jetro tackles Working_Cat.
2008-05-13 16:35 < Demi> coffee drinks are kind of another thing
2008-05-13 16:36 < Working_Cat> Jetro: obscure reference to Jethro Tull
2008-05-13 16:36 < Demi> brewed coffee people usually want cream or half-and-half or some kind of creamer rather than milk, and it's usually not that much compared to the coffee volume, at least as i've observed it
2008-05-13 16:36 < Jetro> Ohw. Never heard of. ^^
2008-05-13 16:36 < Demi> :O
2008-05-13 16:36 < Jetro> Sorry, Demi. I was talking to Working_Cat ;D
2008-05-13 16:37 < Demi> Jetro - right, i'm still equally shocked you haven't heard of Jethro Tull ;)
2008-05-13 16:37 < Alkivar> got a joke for you all
2008-05-13 16:37 < Jetro> :D
2008-05-13 16:37 < Alkivar> Quendus: whats white on top and black on the bottom
2008-05-13 16:37 < Alkivar> ack Q: whats white on top and black on the bottom
2008-05-13 16:38 < Alkivar> someone must know this joke
2008-05-13 16:38 < Working_Cat> liv tyler riding samuel jackson?
2008-05-13 16:38 < Alkivar> good guess but not quite right
2008-05-13 16:38 < Working_Cat> lol
2008-05-13 16:38 < Working_Cat> then
2008-05-13 16:38 < Jetro> A black man's penis
2008-05-13 16:38 < Jetro> ?
2008-05-13 16:38 < Alkivar> the A: society, and thats the way its supposed to be :P
2008-05-13 16:38 < Demi> oprah winfrey and a 5-gallon drum of whipped cream?
2008-05-13 16:38 < Jetro> XD
2008-05-13 16:39 < denelson83> "You will be bankrupted. Frugality is futile."
2008-05-13 16:39 < Working_Cat> Alkivar: supa mean.... supa funny.
2008-05-13 16:39 < Alkivar> denelson83: reading the white house's press releases lately?
2008-05-13 16:39 < denelson83> XD
2008-05-13 16:39 < denelson83> No, was reading Exxon-Mobil's latest annual report
2008-05-13 16:40 < Alkivar> ahh "we have all your money, you have no choice, make your time
2008-05-13 16:40 < Demi> i saw mccain on tv today pandering to me and my issues as a resident of the pacific northwest