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2008-05-12 14:13 * tawker decides to get Ziggy_CGI onto Wikipedia Weekly
2008-05-12 14:14 < nsh> the problem with discussion on the internet
2008-05-12 14:14 < nsh> is that you just can't talk fast enough to correct everyone in real time
2008-05-12 14:14 < nsh> :-/
2008-05-12 14:15 < White_Cat> tawker dont anger me
2008-05-12 14:15 < White_Cat> pokemon articles are fine
2008-05-12 14:15 < White_Cat> their blanking was a grave error
2008-05-12 14:15 < tawker> White_Cat: not over core subjects
2008-05-12 14:15 < White_Cat> core subjects?
2008-05-12 14:15 < White_Cat> like history?
2008-05-12 14:15 < tawker> White_Cat: there's nothing wrong w/ also having pokemon articles
2008-05-12 14:15 < tawker> yeah
2008-05-12 14:16 < White_Cat> tawker history is so old
2008-05-12 14:16 < White_Cat> * {{delete}} History-cruft --~~~~
2008-05-12 14:16 < White_Cat> hictoric cruft?
2008-05-12 14:16 < White_Cat> *histric
2008-05-12 14:16 < White_Cat> tawker right
2008-05-12 14:16 < Ziggy_CGI> ,,
2008-05-12 14:16 < Ziggy_CGI> well
2008-05-12 14:16 < White_Cat> I suppose I will permit these core articles
2008-05-12 14:16 < Ziggy_CGI> let's get to writing some articles
2008-05-12 14:16 * White_Cat permits
2008-05-12 14:16 * quanticle permits White_Cat to exist
2008-05-12 14:17 < White_Cat> Ziggy is that a Quantum leap referance?
2008-05-12 14:17 * quanticle quantum leaps through White_Cat
2008-05-12 14:17 < Ziggy_CGI> White_Cat: ...what?
2008-05-12 14:18 < White_Cat> Ziggy is the super computer in Quantum Leap
2008-05-12 14:18 < quanticle> White_Cat: ORLY?
2008-05-12 14:18 < White_Cat> orly was bombed by ASALA
2008-05-12 14:18 < quanticle> ASALA?
2008-05-12 14:18 < White_Cat> "Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia"
2008-05-12 14:19 < White_Cat> engaged in bombings and assasinations as well as extortion to illusrate a point
2008-05-12 14:19 < White_Cat> giant [[WP:POINT]] violators
2008-05-12 14:23 < Ziggy_CGI> okay
2008-05-12 14:23 < gwern> Question: why does the devil keep his deals?
2008-05-12 14:23 < Ziggy_CGI> how about we fix some stuffs
2008-05-12 14:23 < gwern> A: Because as an immortal he has an infinite time horizon of other deals he jeopardizes if he betrays any given deal. Therefore the opportun\
2008-05-12 14:23 < gwern> ity cost of any betrayal is too high.
2008-05-12 14:24 < gwern> :Q: What does that make politicians then?
2008-05-12 14:24 < gwern> :A: Lower in ethical reliability than the devil.
2008-05-12 14:32 < Ziggy_CGI> ...?
2008-05-12 14:32 < Ziggy_CGI> okay.
2008-05-12 14:33 < Ziggy_CGI> Here are all the chemical elements at start-class
2008-05-12 14:33 < White_Cat> gwern
2008-05-12 14:33 < White_Cat> not true
2008-05-12 14:33 < White_Cat> politicans are above devil
2008-05-12 14:34 < White_Cat> as they are above the law
2008-05-12 14:34 < Ziggy_CGI> Actinium, Astatine, Berkelium, Bromine, Californium, Holmium, Iridium, Lutetium, Mendelevium, Rhenium, Tantalum, Dysprosium, Fermium, Hafnium, Mendelevium, Osmium, Praseodymium, Protactinium, Tantalum, Thulium, Ununseptium
2008-05-12 14:35 < Ziggy_CGI> Which should I improve?
2008-05-12 14:35 * tawker makes an Obama comment
2008-05-12 14:36 < tawker> Obamaum
2008-05-12 14:36 < Ziggy_CGI> lol
2008-05-12 14:36 < gwern> lame
2008-05-12 14:36 < gwern> Ziggy_CGI: berkelium sounds neat
2008-05-12 14:36 < Ziggy_CGI> heh
2008-05-12 14:36 < Ziggy_CGI> perhaps
2008-05-12 14:36 < gwern> but iridium is probably more important because of asteroids and mass extinction events and that sort of thing
2008-05-12 14:37 < Ziggy_CGI> but it's just one of the man-made ones, no real application outside the labaratory
2008-05-12 14:37 < gwern> so go wi' that
2008-05-12 14:37 < Ziggy_CGI> *laboratory
2008-05-12 14:37 < Ziggy_CGI> he
2008-05-12 14:37 < Ziggy_CGI> but osmium is just cool
2008-05-12 14:39 < Ziggy_CGI> anyone else?
2008-05-12 14:39 < incog> I just got this mail: Someone from the IP address 84.24.73.65 requested that we send you a new login password for the English Wikipedia.
2008-05-12 14:40 < incog> I didnt reset my password, somebody in .nl did
2008-05-12 14:40 < incog> must be a pretty desperate spammer
2008-05-12 14:40 < Ziggy_CGI> lol
2008-05-12 14:41 < incog> they used the temp password to change the password for my acct, no idea how, maybe itseasier to brute or they know the algo
2008-05-12 14:41 < Ziggy_CGI> lol
2008-05-12 14:42 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR KATZ!
2008-05-12 14:42 < incog> so who do I have to talk to about this?
2008-05-12 14:43 < incog> I dont care about losing a free acct, I just want to make sure they know these methods are being used
2008-05-12 14:43 < Ziggy_CGI> the Happy Negro
2008-05-12 14:43 < incog> gb2/b/ fgt
2008-05-12 14:43 < Ziggy_CGI> lolno
2008-05-12 14:44 < Ziggy_CGI> er, try wikimedia-ops
2008-05-12 14:44 < Ziggy_CGI> #wikimedia-ops
2008-05-12 14:44 < Ziggy_CGI> a lot fo wikipedia sysops are in there, they would probably know who to talk to
2008-05-12 14:45 < Alkivar> http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/3522ad043c <-- HAHAHAHAHAHA
2008-05-12 14:46 < incog> 'sup Jonathan A. Cary
2008-05-12 14:46 < Ziggy_CGI> what?
2008-05-12 14:46 < incog> Alkivar
2008-05-12 14:46 < Alkivar> sup Incog?
2008-05-12 14:46 * Ziggy_CGI is bored
2008-05-12 14:46 * Ziggy_CGI doesn't feel like editing
2008-05-12 14:47 < Alkivar> incog: reading my resume again?
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> nein, the dox from gnaa
2008-05-12 14:47 < Alkivar> oh theres GNAA dox on me?
2008-05-12 14:47 < Ziggy_CGI> lol
2008-05-12 14:47 < Alkivar> please share... i'd love to see
2008-05-12 14:47 < Ziggy_CGI> link pls
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> Nick: Alkivar
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> Name: Jonathan A. Cary
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> Address: 178 College Street Apt #2
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> Location: Lewiston, Maine 04240
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> Phone: 1-207-786-8014
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> CELL: 1-207-754-6894
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> Emails: alkivar@adelphia.net
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> alkivar@alkivar.com
2008-05-12 14:47 < incog> aim: Alkivar
2008-05-12 14:47 < Alkivar> lol yep 99
2008-05-12 14:47 < Alkivar> the emails are wrong though
2008-05-12 14:48 < Ziggy_CGI> heh
2008-05-12 14:48 < Ziggy_CGI> you worked for Adelphia?
2008-05-12 14:48 < Alkivar> nah i had adelphia cable inet for a year back in 99
2008-05-12 14:48 < Alkivar> all the rest of the data is straight off my resume
2008-05-12 14:49 < Alkivar> although my Aim nick isnt posted on my resume
2008-05-12 14:49 < Ziggy_CGI> ah
2008-05-12 14:49 < incog> some nord reset my wikipedia password, its possible they know the temp password allocation algo
2008-05-12 14:49 < Alkivar> then again its posted on my slashdot page so its not hard to find
2008-05-12 14:49 < Ziggy_CGI> so Alkivar what did you do to get GNAA dox?
2008-05-12 14:49 * Ceiling_Cat just updated his userpage pic
2008-05-12 14:49 < Ceiling_Cat> the old one was getting kinda stale
2008-05-12 14:49 < Alkivar> i originally banned Timecop off wikipedia about 3 years ago
2008-05-12 14:49 < Alkivar> for Jews Did WTC nonsense
2008-05-12 14:49 < Ceiling_Cat> plus it didn't show my van dyke
2008-05-12 14:49 < Ziggy_CGI> hahaha
2008-05-12 14:49 < Ziggy_CGI> wait a sec
2008-05-12 14:50 < Ziggy_CGI> Timecop?
2008-05-12 14:50 < incog> timecop is a sellout
2008-05-12 14:50 < Ziggy_CGI> I reognize that name from somewhere
2008-05-12 14:50 < incog> gnna pres
2008-05-12 14:50 < Alkivar> Dattebayo anime most likely
2008-05-12 14:50 < Ziggy_CGI> no...
2008-05-12 14:50 < incog> he is datebayo fansubber
2008-05-12 14:50 < Ziggy_CGI> I've been on a server with him before
2008-05-12 14:50 < Ziggy_CGI> or a forum
2008-05-12 14:50 < incog> efnet
2008-05-12 14:50 < Ziggy_CGI> or something..
2008-05-12 14:50 < cimon> Raul: link?
2008-05-12 14:50 < Ziggy_CGI> where did Raul come from
2008-05-12 14:51 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Raul654.jpg
2008-05-12 14:51 < Ziggy_CGI> ...?
2008-05-12 14:51 < Ceiling_Cat> Ziggy_CGI - he's always watching
2008-05-12 14:51 < Ceiling_Cat> he's like god, only he exists...
2008-05-12 14:51 < Ziggy_CGI> Ceiling_Cat: no
2008-05-12 14:51 * Ceiling_Cat ducks
2008-05-12 14:51 < Ziggy_CGI> ...
2008-05-12 14:51 < Alkivar> incog: i suggest you update the GNAA dox
2008-05-12 14:51 < Ziggy_CGI> SHUP' FOO
2008-05-12 14:51 < Alkivar> yank the adelphia email its not valid anymore
2008-05-12 14:51 < Alkivar> haasnt been for quite a while
2008-05-12 14:51 < incog> I was gnaa vice pres against my will for a year, timecop is a huge sellout, selling tshirts of the gnaa logo, selling ops in the channel and he now sells cable decoders in japland
2008-05-12 14:51 < Ziggy_CGI> lol
2008-05-12 14:51 < incog> Alkivar, I am no longer gnaa
2008-05-12 14:51 < Alkivar> ahh ok
2008-05-12 14:52 < Ziggy_CGI> gnaa =/= existent
2008-05-12 14:52 < incog> they exist, but cease to function
2008-05-12 14:52 < Alkivar> GNAA members made death threats on my house phone after i blocked timecop
2008-05-12 14:52 < Ziggy_CGI> lol
2008-05-12 14:52 < incog> startard procedure
2008-05-12 14:52 < Alkivar> i had a fun chat with my local fbi branch about that
2008-05-12 14:52 < Ziggy_CGI> jesus christ
2008-05-12 14:52 < incog> Alkivar, and where did that lead?
2008-05-12 14:52 < incog> no arrests, no location of suspects
2008-05-12 14:52 < Ziggy_CGI> gnaa = /i/ = partyvan = new superpowah
2008-05-12 14:52 < incog> futile
2008-05-12 14:53 < Alkivar> 2 phone traces... and nothing else
2008-05-12 14:53 < Alkivar> i dont give a shit about death threats
2008-05-12 14:53 < Alkivar> i know its nonsense
2008-05-12 14:53 < jb2> Umm, someone vandalized an article, and I am unable to undo the edit
2008-05-12 14:53 < Alkivar> but they were threatening to rape my girlfriend
2008-05-12 14:53 < Alkivar> i had to take that seriously
2008-05-12 14:53 < incog> I bet that was rucas, he always fails
2008-05-12 14:53 < The359> where, jb2?
2008-05-12 14:53 < jb2> The359: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Wreath
2008-05-12 14:53 < incog> so, is this attack on my acct a known one?
2008-05-12 14:53 < Ziggy_CGI> Alkivar: don't take it too seriously
2008-05-12 14:54 < Ziggy_CGI> if you're scared, might want to buy a dog :P
2008-05-12 14:54 < The359> where's the vandalism, jb2?
2008-05-12 14:54 < Alkivar> Ziggy_CGI: i dont take attacks on myself seriously... its other people i cant be around to protect should something happen i worry for
2008-05-12 14:54 < Ziggy_CGI> heh
2008-05-12 14:54 < Alkivar> i have firearms in the house... come for me... you'll eat a few rounds of .45 acp
2008-05-12 14:54 < Ziggy_CGI> the thing is, they won't do shit
2008-05-12 14:54 < Alkivar> i know
2008-05-12 14:54 < jb2> The359: they deleted a section that was well-cited, and left in a blatantly biased description of the piece
2008-05-12 14:54 < jb2> The359: the last edit
2008-05-12 14:55 < Ziggy_CGI> their M.O. is empty threats occasionally followed by minor bellshet
2008-05-12 14:55 < Alkivar> so incog: whats wrong with your acct?
2008-05-12 14:55 < The359> well the article was tagged with POV
2008-05-12 14:55 < Alkivar> did the password get changed? or did you just get emails saying your password was changed?
2008-05-12 14:55 < incog> some nord (84.24.73.65) requested a new pass for my acct
2008-05-12 14:55 < incog> it was mailed to me
2008-05-12 14:56 < Alkivar> just ingore that
2008-05-12 14:56 < Alkivar> err ignore that
2008-05-12 14:56 < Alkivar> it happens a lot
2008-05-12 14:56 < jb2> The359: right... but look at what has happened.. .the properly cited portion is deleted, and the totally uncited, rather chilling opinion was left in
2008-05-12 14:56 < incog> i was unbale to use my old pw and unable to change using the temp
2008-05-12 14:56 < Alkivar> i used to get 30-40 of those a day when still an admin
2008-05-12 14:56 < incog> it was already used up
2008-05-12 14:56 < Ziggy_CGI> their M.O. is empty threats occasionally followed by minor bellshet
2008-05-12 14:56 < incog> I hardly used the acct, no loss to me
2008-05-12 14:56 < Alkivar> yeah, if the passwords you have for it dont work, just make a new one
2008-05-12 14:56 < Alkivar> but just because a password reset is requested doesnt mean its actually done
2008-05-12 14:56 < incog> the temp pw was already used up
2008-05-12 14:57 < The359> it looks to me like the article needs a lot of work, jb2
2008-05-12 14:57 < The359> in both sections
2008-05-12 14:57 < Ziggy_CGI> EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL YOU STILL HAVE TO STEER
2008-05-12 14:57 < The359> and valid sources
2008-05-12 14:57 < Alkivar> the best thing you can do, is reg an acct, set the password to something very very hard and at least 12 characters (write it down somewhere safe) and dont put an email acct on the wiki acct
2008-05-12 14:58 < Ziggy_CGI> lol
2008-05-12 14:58 < Alkivar> then the password cant be reset on you
2008-05-12 14:58 < jb2> The359: yes, it does, but as it stands, the only cited source has been deleted, and a bunch of fawning gibberish left in its place
2008-05-12 14:58 < Ziggy_CGI> Alkivar: a price to pay...
2008-05-12 14:58 < incog> Alkivar, that doesnt make sense... I already had a strong pw so they asked for a reset and then bruted the 7 digit temp
2008-05-12 14:58 < incog> much easier
2008-05-12 14:58 < The359> I'm not going to judge the section
2008-05-12 14:58 < Alkivar> with no email set they cant reset the password
2008-05-12 14:58 < The359> as I know nothing about the story
2008-05-12 14:58 < Alkivar> there is no reset option for an acct w/o email
2008-05-12 14:59 < Ziggy_CGI> Cream
2008-05-12 14:59 < Ziggy_CGI> my main man!
2008-05-12 14:59 < jb2> The359: Even though I disagree with what's left in, I think both should be available so that the reader can see that there are differing points of view
2008-05-12 14:59 < incog> kk
2008-05-12 14:59 < incog> bia
2008-05-12 14:59 < Alkivar> i'm afk for a bit ... bbl
2008-05-12 14:59 < The359> there can be tons of point of views
2008-05-12 15:00 < The359> that doesn't mean we include them all
2008-05-12 15:01 < Lubaf> [[WP:NEEDSMOARDRAMA]]: I see a great need for this redirect.
2008-05-12 15:01 < cimon> Ceiling_Cat: Cool beard.
2008-05-12 15:01 < Lubaf> Ceiling_Cat: Bool ceard.
2008-05-12 15:01 < jb2> The359: well, how about including the ones that come with citations from reputable university presses?
2008-05-12 15:01 < Lubaf> Bood cearl.
2008-05-12 15:01 < cimon> Ceiling_Cat: Suits you well.
2008-05-12 15:02 < The359> yes, but it should be discussed on the article talk page
2008-05-12 15:02 < The359> and from the look of it
2008-05-12 15:02 < The359> plenty of people are discussing it there
2008-05-12 15:02 < The359> or were
2008-05-12 15:02 < Ceiling_Cat> lubaf - thankee
2008-05-12 15:02 < jb2> The359: no, there are just a couple of flaming pro-Serb ethnic cleansers
2008-05-12 15:02 < Ceiling_Cat> cimon too
2008-05-12 15:03 * White_Cat shaves the Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 15:03 < cimon> Ceiling_Cat: You know Sehtant has a beard too nowadays?
2008-05-12 15:03 * White_Cat is a cat shaver
2008-05-12 15:03 < cimon> it seems wikipedians are turning to hirsuteness
2008-05-12 15:03 < Ceiling_Cat> seth has had a beard for a while
2008-05-12 15:03 < Lubaf> "Good for the Good God! Laws for the law throne!" - D&D meets Warhammer.
2008-05-12 15:03 < Ceiling_Cat> years now
2008-05-12 15:03 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat - better than a cat sodomizer, I suppose
2008-05-12 15:04 < Ceiling_Cat> speaking of which, www.lolcatse.com ;)
2008-05-12 15:04 < Ceiling_Cat> (moderately NSFW)
2008-05-12 15:04 < jb2> The359: they aren't going to respond to reasoned discussion-- surely there is someone in the wikipedia space responsible for not letting this happen??
2008-05-12 15:05 < jb2> Do we let neo-Nazis delete all the unflattering stuff about the Third Reich??
2008-05-12 15:06 < The359> Assuming they wont discuss reasonably is not a good way to approach things
2008-05-12 15:07 < jb2> I'm not assuming anything
2008-05-12 15:07 < The359> Have you discussed it on that article's talk page?
2008-05-12 15:07 < jb2> Just read what they've written... half of it is totally irrelevant to the discussion and attacks the writer
2008-05-12 15:07 < The359> I read it
2008-05-12 15:08 < The359> Have you discussed it on that article's talk page?
2008-05-12 15:08 < jb2> yes
2008-05-12 15:08 < jb2> oops
2008-05-12 15:09 < Phoenixwi> Relationships are so complicated
2008-05-12 15:10 < WilliamH_UK> true
2008-05-12 15:10 < Phoenixwi> I mean, I have fried who's the biggest ass on earth, actually he's not a firned anymore after the things he's done
2008-05-12 15:10 < Phoenixwi> firstly
2008-05-12 15:11 < Phoenixwi> I like this girl
2008-05-12 15:11 < Phoenixwi> anyway, he knows
2008-05-12 15:11 < Phoenixwi> so what does he do? Tell everyone
2008-05-12 15:11 < Phoenixwi> then, recently
2008-05-12 15:11 < Phoenixwi> when I thought I had a chance, I found out she likes me
2008-05-12 15:11 < Phoenixwi> he just makes up that I like someone...
2008-05-12 15:11 < Phoenixwi> and now she thinks I don't like her
2008-05-12 15:12 < Phoenixwi> :-(
2008-05-12 15:17 < randar> someone please proofread this: "In order to determine whether the hero should die upon incurring damage, the algorithm checks to see if the POWER value is negative, an action that creates a context in which the hero can survive with a POWER value of zero. This patch adds a check so that the hero won't survive if the POWER value is equal to zero."
2008-05-12 15:18 < WilliamH_UK> well, i gettit
2008-05-12 15:20 < Phoenixwi> what's the plural of gladius? Gladii?
2008-05-12 15:23 < randar> I think so
2008-05-12 15:24 < randar> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gladii
2008-05-12 15:26 < gwern> randar: reorder some of the clauses. 'Incurred dmanage kills the hero if his POWER is negative, but he can survive if it is 0; the patch removes this loophole.'
2008-05-12 15:27 * gwern notes that some mighty fine police writing there, Lou
2008-05-12 15:31 * gwern is astonished to note that on one torrent, I'm at a seed ratio of 73:1; apparently all the other downloaders are leeches/fags
2008-05-12 15:31 < Invisible_Cat> block them :P
2008-05-12 15:31 < randar> "Incurred damage kills the hero if the residual POWER is negative, but he can survive if the latter is zero; the patch removes this loophole."
2008-05-12 15:32 < Invisible_Cat> ddos them :P
2008-05-12 15:35 < gwern> randar: you original never mention 'residual', but that's better
2008-05-12 15:35 < gwern> is POWER like HP? in that case, 'remaining' may be better
2008-05-12 15:35 < gwern> residual has a lot of connotations remaining doesn't
2008-05-12 15:38 < randar> that's because I didn't need to mention residual in the original text. ;)
2008-05-12 15:38 < Messedrocker> quanticle, your turn on Pearl Harbor
2008-05-12 15:38 < randar> yes, it's like HP. I changed that segment to "residual POWER value"
2008-05-12 15:38 < White_Cat> Pearl Harbor?
2008-05-12 15:38 < White_Cat> Messedrocker I'll Pearl Harbor you
2008-05-12 15:38 < Aqwis> then he'll Hiroshima you?
2008-05-12 15:38 * White_Cat traps Messedrocker on the central island in Pearl Harbor
2008-05-12 15:39 < randar> by "residual" I refer to the POWER that will remain AFTER the hero takes damage
2008-05-12 15:39 < gwern> I'll naga your saki!
2008-05-12 15:40 < gwern> randar: I still think you're writing it in an odd way - saying that ' dead if (health - damage) < 0' is as true as 'dead if damage > health', but the latter is much clearer and less stateful
2008-05-12 15:41 < gwern> but it's your prose, so whatever
2008-05-12 15:41 < gwern> * <=, >=
2008-05-12 15:45 < jb2> Is there a policy on people editing their own biographies?
2008-05-12 15:46 < Aqwis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AUTOBIO
2008-05-12 15:46 < randar> the bug is that the algorithm only checks to see if the POWER value is negative, and that's why I want to emphasize that
2008-05-12 15:47 < Messedrocker> jb2: it is generally not allowed, unless they are fixing grammar, vandalism, or obvious mistakes
2008-05-12 15:47 < Aqwis> it's not "not allowed", it's "strongly discouraged"
2008-05-12 15:48 < jb2> what if they're trying to gloss over facts, deleting (non-libelous) details, replacing them with more ambiguous statements about their background
2008-05-12 15:48 < Aqwis> that's unfortunate
2008-05-12 15:49 < jb2> ah well, I guess there's not much that can be done about these things
2008-05-12 15:49 < gwern> randar: so mention 'greater-than means characters can have 0 HP; see [off-by-one errors]]. This was fixed in a patch'
2008-05-12 15:49 < Aqwis> try a noticeboard
2008-05-12 15:49 < gwern> or something
2008-05-12 15:50 < gwern> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Kevin_J._Anderson&curid=37238&diff=211938861&oldid=208535832 <-- lol
2008-05-12 15:51 < gwern> it's funny cause KJA was publishing in the '80s, see?
2008-05-12 15:52 < cimon> Hah! I just discovered where hammerspace comes from...
2008-05-12 15:53 < gwern> cimon: ooh, whe3re?
2008-05-12 15:53 < gwern> was it the american newspapwer strips like I thought?
2008-05-12 15:53 < Alkivar> man there are times i really love Digg
2008-05-12 15:53 < Alkivar> by Jenadae 21 hours ago
2008-05-12 15:53 < Alkivar> Why cant you profit from a conviction? Sounds like complete ass-covering bullshit to me...
2008-05-12 15:53 < Alkivar> by chonuts 14 hours ago
2008-05-12 15:53 < Alkivar> You can, you just have to make it rhyme and put an over-produced beat behind it.
2008-05-12 15:54 < cimon> gwern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Wukong
2008-05-12 15:54 < Mike_H> I still don't know why he got let off the hook for "I'll Be Missing You."
2008-05-12 15:54 < Alkivar> cause he paid royalties to sting and the police
2008-05-12 15:55 < gwern> cimon: I'm familiar with _Journey to the West_ (one day gods willing I will own a complete english translation)
2008-05-12 15:55 < cimon> "Wukong eventually obtained the "As-you-will Golden-banded Cudgel", known as Ruyi Jingu Bang, which he could shrink to the size of a needle and keep inside his ear. The staff could also be expanded to be as high as Heaven."
2008-05-12 15:55 < gwern> but I don't see how it had hammerspace?
2008-05-12 15:55 < gwern> his staff doesn't count
2008-05-12 15:55 < gwern> since it only changes size
2008-05-12 15:55 < cimon> hmm, fair point
2008-05-12 15:55 < randar> "To determine whether the hero should die, the algorithm checks to see if his POWER value is negative. This creates a context within which the hero can survive with a POWER value of zero; the patch fixes this loophole."
2008-05-12 15:55 < gwern> hammerspace is pulling something out of nothing
2008-05-12 15:56 < cimon> ack
2008-05-12 15:56 < gwern> randar: your second sentence is still execrable - 'creates a context withing which...' what are we discussing other dimensions or continuations here or something?
2008-05-12 15:57 < randar> I don't see what's so wrong about it
2008-05-12 15:58 * GP001 leave
2008-05-12 15:58 * Mike_H faints on Golbez
2008-05-12 15:58 < cimon> gwern: that story kind of reminds me of the central story of Blade Runner
2008-05-12 15:58 < gwern> cimon: well, he is born of stone
2008-05-12 15:58 < randar> gwern: what do you suggest for that particular sentence then?
2008-05-12 15:59 * Golbez fans mike
2008-05-12 15:59 < gwern> randar: I've already given at least two different versions
2008-05-12 15:59 < randar> your versions involve discarding more information than I'm willing to.
2008-05-12 15:59 < gwern> randar: and I've pointed you at an article which covers the entire class of programming errors this is an example of
2008-05-12 15:59 < cimon> gwern. except of course that Rutger Hauer isn't given the secrets by Tyrell corp...
2008-05-12 16:00 < gwern> cimon: the analogy has to break down somewhere! sun isn't executed at the end by the buddha either
2008-05-12 16:00 < cimon> I would still cast Ruger as Wukong
2008-05-12 16:00 < cimon> *rutger
2008-05-12 16:00 < The359> Bitch please, you're a horrible actor
2008-05-12 16:00 < The359> Mike_H
2008-05-12 16:01 < cimon> R. Hauer has that large ape thing going for him.
2008-05-12 16:02 < Mike_H> The359: I watch soaps
2008-05-12 16:02 < Mike_H> you expected Oscar-winning performances?
2008-05-12 16:02 < The359> I noticed
2008-05-12 16:02 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - see my userpage
2008-05-12 16:02 < Ceiling_Cat> and my new pic
2008-05-12 16:02 < Mike_H> Well! That picture isn't fun.
2008-05-12 16:02 < Mike_H> You're not resembling Tony Orlando as much anymore.
2008-05-12 16:03 < Ceiling_Cat> I was tired of having a 5 o'clock shadow
2008-05-12 16:03 < randar> I don't see a link to "an article [that] covers the entire class of programming errors this is an example of"
2008-05-12 16:03 < cimon> gwern: this is how I got to that article (so to speak): "The phrase "You burst out from a stone" is one of the most common excuses used by Chinese parents when answering the "where do babies come from" question."
2008-05-12 16:03 < gwern> randar: I told you you could add a link to [[Off-by-one error]]s
2008-05-12 16:03 < gwern> not my fault if you don't pay attention
2008-05-12 16:03 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: Does your dad have facial hair? It really suits you.
2008-05-12 16:04 * quanticle out for lunch
2008-05-12 16:04 < gwern> cimon: how interesting. I wonder whether it makes more sense than 'storks brought you from somewhere'?
2008-05-12 16:04 < cimon> gwern: I typed the question "Where do babies come from?" into powerset.com...
2008-05-12 16:04 < gwern> on the other hand, [[Krazy Kat]] wouldn't be nearly as good without Joe Stork
2008-05-12 16:04 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - yes, he does
2008-05-12 16:05 < Ceiling_Cat> (thanks, btw)
2008-05-12 16:05 < Messedrocker> mark has facial hair now?
2008-05-12 16:05 < cimon> gwern: powersets answers lead me to believe they still have a way to go... anything vagina related didn't appear untill the second page of results...
2008-05-12 16:06 < gwern> cimon: lol
2008-05-12 16:06 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: He's Italian.
2008-05-12 16:06 < Mike_H> Italians are supposed to have hair.
2008-05-12 16:06 < cimon> gwern: the most interesting result btw, was [[Urk]].
2008-05-12 16:06 < Ceiling_Cat> Messedrocker - check my userpage. new pic
2008-05-12 16:06 < Messedrocker> cf. the super mario brothers
2008-05-12 16:06 < Ceiling_Cat> I've had a mustache since freshman year in high school
2008-05-12 16:06 < Mike_H> except for the old ones
2008-05-12 16:06 < Mike_H> with liverspots
2008-05-12 16:06 < Demi> Where do babies come from is a broad question that isn't necessarily best answered by "from vaginas."
2008-05-12 16:06 < Mike_H> who get elected President of Italy
2008-05-12 16:06 < Ceiling_Cat> now i have a full-blown [[n dyke beard]]
2008-05-12 16:06 < Ceiling_Cat> van dyke beard*
2008-05-12 16:06 < Mike_H> there must seriously be like a law in Italy
2008-05-12 16:06 < Mike_H> "can't be elected President unless you're over 80"
2008-05-12 16:06 < randar> that's not a off-by-one error. negative values are only discerned as negative because the Carry flag is set. A check needs to be made both on c and z
2008-05-12 16:07 < Demi> i thought you meant an "n dyke beard, for some values of n"
2008-05-12 16:07 < gwern> Demi: you stole my joke!
2008-05-12 16:07 < Mike_H> snowolf: true or not true?
2008-05-12 16:07 < Demi> sorry, gwern
2008-05-12 16:07 < cimon> gwern: the dutch inhabitants of the lost island of urk (it is inside reclaimed land now), think you have to get a key from someplace, and row to a mythical island and dive to an underwater door you can open with the key...
2008-05-12 16:08 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: Are there a lot of Italians in Delaware?
2008-05-12 16:08 < gwern> cimon: that's so sad
2008-05-12 16:08 < Mike_H> I just kind of thought of it as a place where a lot of WASPs lived
2008-05-12 16:08 < cimon> and you get the baby from there, meanwhile one foot of the mother is nailed to the bed...
2008-05-12 16:09 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - yes
2008-05-12 16:09 < Mike_H> yes to which statement
2008-05-12 16:09 < Ceiling_Cat> Delaware, NJ, New York, and PA have a lot of italians
2008-05-12 16:09 < Mike_H> Well, I knew New Jersey did
2008-05-12 16:09 < Mike_H> but Delaware's so small
2008-05-12 16:10 < Demi> what, no room for the meatballs and fat aunts?
2008-05-12 16:11 < Mike_H> none.
2008-05-12 16:11 < Mike_H> there's only room for one fat lady in that state
2008-05-12 16:11 < Mike_H> and that's [[Ruth Ann Minner]]
2008-05-12 16:12 < Ceiling_Cat> Bob Barr announced he's running for pres as a libertarian
2008-05-12 16:12 < Ceiling_Cat> hopefully he'll be stealing votes from McCain
2008-05-12 16:12 * Ceiling_Cat hopes Bob Barr gets hit by a truck
2008-05-12 16:12 < Aqwis> bob WHO?
2008-05-12 16:12 < Ceiling_Cat> Aqwis - the guy who led the clinton impeachment
2008-05-12 16:12 < Aqwis> ah
2008-05-12 16:12 < Ceiling_Cat> he was also in the borat movie
2008-05-12 16:12 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: let me guess
2008-05-12 16:13 < Mike_H> and Ruth Ann Minner ate him
2008-05-12 16:13 < Ceiling_Cat> Runn Ann Minner's days are numbered
2008-05-12 16:13 < Ceiling_Cat> her political career will come to a screetching halt with the next election
2008-05-12 16:13 < Aqwis> hmz
2008-05-12 16:13 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: you can't do more than two terms in Delaware?
2008-05-12 16:13 < Aqwis> barr doesn't really seem like a "real" libertarian to me
2008-05-12 16:13 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - correct. Hence, the "great swap"
2008-05-12 16:14 < Aqwis> anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-drugs
2008-05-12 16:14 < Mike_H> Aqwis: He's from Georgia. Did you expect him to like dick?
2008-05-12 16:14 < Aqwis> no, but i didn't expect him to be in his party
2008-05-12 16:14 < Ceiling_Cat> in 1992 (I think) Mike Castle reached his term limits as governor, so he decideed to run for US Rep. The US rep at the time, Bob Carper, decided to run for governor
2008-05-12 16:14 < Ceiling_Cat> so they, in essense, swapped
2008-05-12 16:14 < Mike_H> That isn't his normal party.
2008-05-12 16:14 < Mike_H> Isn't Bob Barr normally a Republican?
2008-05-12 16:15 < Ceiling_Cat> then Carper ran in 2000 and took down Bill Roth, possibly the most powerful man in the senate
2008-05-12 16:15 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - yes, he was a republican
2008-05-12 16:15 < Ceiling_Cat> (Roth is where your Roth IRA gets its name)
2008-05-12 16:15 < Aqwis> Barr hosts a political talk radio show on Radio America called Bob Barr's Laws of the Universe[49], on which he has had guests including Trent Lott, Tom DeLay, Oliver North, and Robert Bork. His first "law of the Universe" is that "the world is full of idiots", and he features an "Idiot of the Week" on his show, along with a top ten of "Idiots of the Year" selected from the Idiots of the Week.
2008-05-12 16:15 < Demi> they're all republicans
2008-05-12 16:15 < Aqwis> what a nice guy.
2008-05-12 16:15 < Mike_H> Demi: Libertarians are just the Republicans who want to be nice to gays and allow 420.
2008-05-12 16:16 < Ceiling_Cat> 420?
2008-05-12 16:16 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: pot
2008-05-12 16:16 < Ceiling_Cat> ah
2008-05-12 16:16 < Demi> except for being nice to gays, yes
2008-05-12 16:16 < Aqwis> how the heck can he be a member of [[American Civil Liberties Union]] but still be anti-everything
2008-05-12 16:16 < Demi> maybe
2008-05-12 16:16 < Aqwis> except for the Patriot Act
2008-05-12 16:16 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - 'a bisexual is someone who reaches down your pants and is satisfied with whatever they find' -- SNL
2008-05-12 16:16 < Mike_H> Aqwis: because he's from Georgia.
2008-05-12 16:17 < Aqwis> bah
2008-05-12 16:17 < Mike_H> Aqwis: clearly you've never been to Georgia.
2008-05-12 16:17 < Aqwis> i have never been to the US ;)
2008-05-12 16:17 < The359> What if they find nothing?
2008-05-12 16:17 < Aqwis> why do the party and the union want *him* though?
2008-05-12 16:17 < Mike_H> Aqwis: Atlanta is "an island of blue surrounded by a sea of red"
2008-05-12 16:17 < Ceiling_Cat> The359 - find nothing? Like, your amputated from the torso down?
2008-05-12 16:17 < Ceiling_Cat> you're*
2008-05-12 16:17 < Mike_H> Atlanta and to a MUCH lesser extent, Savannah, are really the only Democratic strongholds in Georgia.
2008-05-12 16:17 < Aqwis> ah
2008-05-12 16:18 < Mike_H> The rest of the state, like most of the South, is overwhelmingly socially conservative.
2008-05-12 16:18 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - maveric139 called atlanta 'an island of blue in a sea of red'
2008-05-12 16:18 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: The press has even called it that
2008-05-12 16:18 < Ceiling_Cat> fortunately virginia is slowly turning blue
2008-05-12 16:18 < cimon> Mike_H: Libertarians also want to withdraw the US military from foreign entanglements, and keep it as a purely defensive force.
2008-05-12 16:18 < Ceiling_Cat> right now it's the mos purple state, but it's slowly going blue
2008-05-12 16:19 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: Well, with black voters near DC and in the Richmond area, those are always going to be blue.
2008-05-12 16:19 < Ceiling_Cat> all the young, DC suburbanites are moving to virginia
2008-05-12 16:19 < Mike_H> But the Norfolk area will not change hands from red to blue
2008-05-12 16:19 < Mike_H> and neither will the rural areas in the west and south.
2008-05-12 16:19 < cimon> Ceiling_Cat: Did you ever read the Probability Broach?
2008-05-12 16:19 < Ceiling_Cat> Cimon - by heinlein?
2008-05-12 16:19 < Ceiling_Cat> I've heard of it
2008-05-12 16:19 < cimon> close
2008-05-12 16:20 < cimon> Schulman
2008-05-12 16:20 < Mike_H> It depends on college towns like Charlottesville, and some of the black voters in the smaller cities, like Roanoke and Lynchburg and Harrisonburg and places like that.
2008-05-12 16:20 < cimon> wait no...
2008-05-12 16:20 < cimon> not Schulman
2008-05-12 16:20 < Ceiling_Cat> Cimon - I have so very, very man good scifi books on my shelf at home waiting for me to read them
2008-05-12 16:20 < Aqwis> Lynchburg
2008-05-12 16:20 < Aqwis> what a pleasant name
2008-05-12 16:21 < The359> Better than Intercourse, Pennsylvania
2008-05-12 16:21 < Mike_H> Aqwis: First settled in 1757, Lynchburg was named for its founder, John Lynch, who at the age of 17 started a ferry service at a ford across the James River to route traffic to and from New London.
2008-05-12 16:21 < nsh_> sounds like a good holiday destination (Intercourse, PA)
2008-05-12 16:21 < Aqwis> aww
2008-05-12 16:21 < Aqwis> i was hoping
2008-05-12 16:21 < cimon> http://www.powerset.com/explore/pset?q=Who+wrote+the+probability+broach%3F&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
2008-05-12 16:21 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Intercourse_Pennsylvania_Welcome_Sign_2000px.jpg
2008-05-12 16:21 < cimon> L. Neil Smith.
2008-05-12 16:21 < The359> Yes, please, welcome!
2008-05-12 16:22 < Ceiling_Cat> Aqwis - could be worse
2008-05-12 16:22 < The359> Intercourse, Pennsylvania is also close to the towns of Blue Ball
2008-05-12 16:22 < cimon> to combine libertarianism and monkeys,
2008-05-12 16:22 < The359> and the town of Paradise
2008-05-12 16:22 < Ceiling_Cat> The name 'armageddon' comes from Meggido, Israel
2008-05-12 16:22 < Aqwis> heh
2008-05-12 16:22 < randar> gwern: does this still look execrable to you: "This creates a situation where the hero can survive with a POWER value of zero;"
2008-05-12 16:22 < The359> So I guess you go from Blue Ball, to Intercourse, to Paradise
2008-05-12 16:22 < Ceiling_Cat> (Meggiddo was the scene of many, many battles in ancient times)
2008-05-12 16:22 < cimon> In that book, in the alternate history US, monkeys have civil rights.
2008-05-12 16:22 < cimon> Ceiling_Cat: four
2008-05-12 16:23 < Demi> Damn you! Damn you all to hell!
2008-05-12 16:23 < The359> "Witness" was filmed in Intercourse
2008-05-12 16:23 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: now do the relationship between Gog and Magog!
2008-05-12 16:23 < cimon> Megiddo I, Megiddo II, Megiddo III and Megiddo IV
2008-05-12 16:24 < Ceiling_Cat> my girlfriend emailed me earlier today to let me know that I may not, under any circumstances, get any idea from this cartoon: http://xkcd.com/422/
2008-05-12 16:24 * cimon used to own the Encyclopaedia of Battles.
2008-05-12 16:24 * The359 also went to college in a town next to Virginville, Pennsylvania
2008-05-12 16:24 < cimon> Sold it just a few weeks ago...
2008-05-12 16:24 < Ceiling_Cat> The359 - is that down the road from VirginKiller, PA?
2008-05-12 16:24 < The359> no
2008-05-12 16:24 < The359> Kutztown
2008-05-12 16:25 < Ceiling_Cat> Kuntztown? I heard that place always had an odor in the air
2008-05-12 16:25 < The359> Virginville does have a sex store though
2008-05-12 16:25 * Ceiling_Cat ducks
2008-05-12 16:25 * The359 has been in it a few times while at college
2008-05-12 16:25 < Ceiling_Cat> The359 - I was in LA a few years ago, driving down hollywood blvd with some friends. We saw the hustler superstore and decided to stop
2008-05-12 16:25 < Ceiling_Cat> As we pulled into the parking lot, I noted with a great deal of humor that it had handicap parking and access
2008-05-12 16:25 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: aren't you a bit old for proms?
2008-05-12 16:25 < The359> heh
2008-05-12 16:26 < The359> This was more than a store
2008-05-12 16:26 < Ceiling_Cat> gwern - yes, I am. So is she, but we do go out occasionally
2008-05-12 16:26 < The359> you could go in back and watch porn and have a wank
2008-05-12 16:26 < cimon> http://www.powerset.com/explore/pset?q=Who+wrote+the+probability+broach%3F&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
2008-05-12 16:26 < Ceiling_Cat> however, I am not one for dressing up in formal attire
2008-05-12 16:26 < The359> It was funny, we went in the sex store one time
2008-05-12 16:26 < gwern> The359: see if they have some salt stores
2008-05-12 16:26 < Ceiling_Cat> the last time I wore a suit was at a friend's wedding 2 years ago
2008-05-12 16:26 < cimon> Hmm. Wikipedia only has articles on the three most famous ones...
2008-05-12 16:26 < The359> and the guy behind the counter had a few TVs on under the desk
2008-05-12 16:26 < The359> One was showing Stargate SG-1
2008-05-12 16:26 < The359> The other was showing gay anal porn
2008-05-12 16:26 < The359> I lol'd
2008-05-12 16:26 < Ceiling_Cat> The359 - lol
2008-05-12 16:26 < cimon> oops, sorry, wrong link
2008-05-12 16:26 < gwern> interesting
2008-05-12 16:27 < cimon> http://www.powerset.com/explore/pset?q=How+many+battles+were+fought+at+Megiddo%3F&x=0&y=0
2008-05-12 16:27 < gwern> appropriate, I suppose
2008-05-12 16:27 < The359> yep
2008-05-12 16:29 < cimon> Ceiling_Cat: what is cool about the battles at megiddo, is that there is more than 34 centuries between the first recorded one, and the latest at 1918.
2008-05-12 16:29 < cimon> that is strategic staying power.
2008-05-12 16:29 < White_Cat> cimon
2008-05-12 16:29 < White_Cat> nah
2008-05-12 16:29 < White_Cat> lag time
2008-05-12 16:31 < cimon> gwern: do you read Hugo Pratt?
2008-05-12 16:32 < Ceiling_Cat> cimon - so what you're saying is, we need to have a bunch of wikipeidans go ther eand fight
2008-05-12 16:32 < Ceiling_Cat> that way, we could make it 35 centuries ;)
2008-05-12 16:33 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Battles_of_the_Isonzo#10.2C_11_or_12_Battles.3F]]
2008-05-12 16:33 < Ceiling_Cat> holy crap
2008-05-12 16:34 < Ceiling_Cat> 12 battles there in one war
2008-05-12 16:34 < gwern> cimon: who?
2008-05-12 16:35 < Ceiling_Cat> BBL
2008-05-12 16:35 < cimon> gwern: the creator of Corto Maltese...
2008-05-12 16:37 < gwern> never heard of that either
2008-05-12 16:43 < Dendodge> Avez vous un petit pois, mon adorable petits enfants?
2008-05-12 16:44 * bumm13 no parlez vous français (sic)
2008-05-12 16:45 < Dendodge> Je ne parlez pas français is the correct phrase
2008-05-12 16:47 < Demi> je ne parle pas de francais, i beleive
2008-05-12 16:48 < bumm13> yeah, sounds right
2008-05-12 16:48 < bumm13> hiya Demi
2008-05-12 16:48 < bumm13> Dendodge: ah, you speak English :-)
2008-05-12 16:48 < Dendodge> yes
2008-05-12 16:49 < Dendodge> de means 'of'
2008-05-12 16:49 < bumm13> yes, just like in Spanish
2008-05-12 16:49 < bumm13> I knew I wasn't saying it correctly :P
2008-05-12 16:49 * Dendodge has spoken English since birth
2008-05-12 16:49 < bumm13> as have I :D
2008-05-12 16:50 < bumm13> (natively :P )
2008-05-12 16:50 < Demi> yes, my mistake Dendodge
2008-05-12 16:51 < bumm13> French is a Romance language, but I find it somewhat strange compared to Spanish for some reason
2008-05-12 16:51 < Demi> Dendodge is obviously an extremely amazing and disconcertingly disturbing prodigy
2008-05-12 16:51 * Dendodge isn't
2008-05-12 16:51 < Demi> most people don't start speaking any language at birth
2008-05-12 16:51 < bumm13> heh
2008-05-12 16:52 * Dendodge must now get back to reading Shakespeare, hoping to find inspiration for is novel.
2008-05-12 16:52 < Dendodge> *his
2008-05-12 16:53 < Demi> does this novel explore the reasoning behind the second-best bed?
2008-05-12 16:53 < Dendodge> No
2008-05-12 16:53 < Dendodge> Wizards
2008-05-12 16:54 < The359> It's been done
2008-05-12 16:54 < Demi> YOU SHALL NOT PASS!
2008-05-12 16:54 < Dendodge> It's been done, but this one does it differently
2008-05-12 16:55 < The359> it's all been done
2008-05-12 16:55 < Demi> you should title it "Xizards"
2008-05-12 16:55 * Dendodge just stole the best bits from all the other fantasy stories
2008-05-12 16:55 < The359> Go for Wizardess
2008-05-12 16:55 < gwern> The359: by the wizard what done it
2008-05-12 16:55 < The359> you'll score with the feminazi crowd
2008-05-12 16:56 < Demi> that's what all fantasy stories do, now
2008-05-12 16:56 < gwern> wouldn't that be witch?
2008-05-12 16:56 < gwern> sorceror/soceress, witch/wizard, warlock/... hm
2008-05-12 16:56 < gwern> Demi: thanks to harry potter anyway
2008-05-12 16:56 < The359> witches have bad connotations though
2008-05-12 16:56 < Dendodge> They'r all called Wizards in my story
2008-05-12 16:57 < Demi> 50% Tolkien, 20% Eddings, 15% Howard, 10% Moorcock, the remainder a mix of "Chalker and shit" = all fantasy written now
2008-05-12 16:57 < Dendodge> Rowling
2008-05-12 16:57 < Dendodge> Loads of Rowling
2008-05-12 16:57 < gwern> Demi: some people follow the Mervyn Peake and Lord Dunsany traditions
2008-05-12 16:58 < Dendodge> Then Tolkien
2008-05-12 16:58 < gwern> Dendodge: rowling is honestly more of a Lewis follower than tolkien
2008-05-12 16:58 < Dendodge> Then a bit of Colfer
2008-05-12 16:59 < Dendodge> And some Wales
2008-05-12 16:59 < Dendodge> (Jimbo)
2008-05-12 16:59 < Demi> ooh, that's some good fantasy, though, the chronicles of prydain
2008-05-12 17:01 < Dendodge> Does anyone here think we ought to give Larry Sanger the 'Founder' userright?
2008-05-12 17:03 < Warpath> \o/
2008-05-12 17:07 < scorchsaber> Hey guys, can I get anything, uh, bad, on my account, for things done with an IP that my account sometimes uses?
2008-05-12 17:08 < scorchsaber> That sounds bad somehow, but it's really not.
2008-05-12 17:08 < Dendodge> An autoblock
2008-05-12 17:08 < Dendodge> [[WP:AUTOBLOCK]]
2008-05-12 17:08 < Dendodge> !link
2008-05-12 17:08 < Dendodge> They're nothing bad
2008-05-12 17:09 < scorchsaber> That would only affect me when using that IP?
2008-05-12 17:10 < Dendodge> Yes
2008-05-12 17:11 < scorchsaber> Alright.
2008-05-12 17:11 < scorchsaber> Thank you very much. :)
2008-05-12 17:12 < Dendodge> you're welcome
2008-05-12 17:18 < Ten98> hey