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2008-05-11 23:14 < Lucifer_Cat> what happened here?
2008-05-11 23:14 < Rinn> I-I don't know... it just happened so suddenly...
2008-05-11 23:15 < Rinn> And now they're all gone...
2008-05-11 23:15 < FastLizard4|busy> Have you ever wanted to kick an op?
2008-05-11 23:15 < FastLizard4|busy> Join #wikimedia-ops-playground !
2008-05-11 23:15 * Rinn kicks FastLizard4|busy
2008-05-11 23:24 * Lucifer_Cat slaps Rinn
2008-05-11 23:25 < Fire> You haz nice nick
2008-05-11 23:26 * Rinn explodes
2008-05-11 23:28 < Charitwo> fire can haz matches
2008-05-11 23:29 < quanticle> Charitwo: You mean matches can has fire.
2008-05-11 23:29 < Fire> Did you see the one lolcat image where some guy proposed to his girlfriend?
2008-05-11 23:29 < quanticle> Fire: I can has wedding ring?
2008-05-11 23:32 < Fire> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/14/lol-marriage-proposal/
2008-05-11 23:32 < Fire> (no rick roll)
2008-05-11 23:35 < The359> uhh...
2008-05-11 23:35 < The359> stop that?
2008-05-11 23:36 < Charitwo> i dont think he's paying attention to this channel
2008-05-11 23:37 < quanticle> The359: Kick?
2008-05-11 23:37 < IncredibleRinn> Punch!
2008-05-11 23:37 < The359> he stopped
2008-05-11 23:38 < Krimpet> FALCON punch
2008-05-11 23:38 < Charitwo> :o
2008-05-11 23:38 < Fire> :O
2008-05-11 23:39 * quanticle Ganon punches Krimpet
2008-05-11 23:41 * quanticle is inclined to kick DrSkullthumper
2008-05-11 23:41 < FastLizard4|busy> Last call for <s>guinea pigs</s> people who want to ban wikimedia ops: #wikimedia-ops-playground
2008-05-11 23:42 < DrSkullthumper> Hello quanticle
2008-05-11 23:42 < quanticle> DrSkullthumper: Hello. Just when I thought you'd forgotten about #wikipedia.
2008-05-11 23:42 < DrSkullthumper> All I needed was a namedrop to remind me that I'm pissing off other channels by accient.
2008-05-11 23:42 < DrSkullthumper> *accident.
2008-05-11 23:42 < quanticle> DrSkullthumper: Ah ok.
2008-05-11 23:42 < DrSkullthumper> Damn /alias command! All I wanted to do was make a LaughTrack, but noooo...
2008-05-11 23:42 < quanticle> Hmmm
2008-05-11 23:43 * quanticle is not in #uncyclopedia, I notice
2008-05-11 23:43 * DrSkullthumper is in ur #uncyclopedia speakin lolcat
2008-05-11 23:49 * Lucifer_Cat is stress relieved
2008-05-11 23:50 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: All moved in?
2008-05-11 23:50 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: no.
2008-05-11 23:51 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Then you have no right to be destressed. Jack those anxiety levels up right now!! ;)
2008-05-11 23:51 < FastLizard4|busy> lolcat: Please stop changing your nick so fast
2008-05-11 23:51 < Lucifer_Cat> lol quanticle i will be tomorrow
2008-05-11 23:51 < Lucifer_Cat> got my notice?
2008-05-11 23:51 < lolcat> FastLizard4|busy: ill get off the channel then
2008-05-11 23:51 < lolcat> Christ, I thought it was conference mode for most people in here but oooooooookay
2008-05-11 23:52 < FastLizard4|busy> conference mode phails
2008-05-11 23:52 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: you are welcome.
2008-05-11 23:53 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-05-11 23:53 * quanticle wonders how to make irssi go into conference mode.
2008-05-11 23:53 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: we have a thing going on there to kick incoming newcomers the first time they enter. thanks to lizzy
2008-05-11 23:54 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I believe that's what Lizzy did in #code-snippets as well.
2008-05-11 23:54 < Lucifer_Cat> heh
2008-05-11 23:55 < Lucifer_Cat> THATS what it is
2008-05-11 23:55 < Lucifer_Cat> sabrina lloyd is more appealing thanks to all those assault weapons she carries.
2008-05-12 00:06 < Lucifer_Cat> Battlefield Earth: A Saga of the Year 3000 is a 2000 American film adaptation of the novel Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard. It was a commercial and critical disaster and has been widely criticized as one of the worst films ever made.
2008-05-12 00:06 < Lucifer_Cat> XD great thing to have as an FA
2008-05-12 00:09 < Lucifer_Cat> later
2008-05-12 00:10 < bbot> Battlefield Earth is the featured article?
2008-05-12 00:11 * Kamping_Kaiser wonders how long until wiki gets sued for that ;)
2008-05-12 00:12 < Ceiling_Cat> INSUFFECIENT PUSSY IN CHANNEL! MAOR KATZ!
2008-05-12 00:13 < Lucifer_Cat> MEOW
2008-05-12 00:13 < Lucifer_Cat> what has 9 hands and sucks?
2008-05-12 00:13 < Fire> If I haz katz I can has cheezburgr pleez?
2008-05-12 00:13 < Ceiling_Cat> no idea
2008-05-12 00:13 * Ceiling_Cat gives fire a cheezburgr
2008-05-12 00:13 < Lucifer_Cat> def leppard afaik
2008-05-12 00:13 < Fire> Sanks
2008-05-12 00:14 < Lucifer_Cat> Fire_Cat
2008-05-12 00:14 * Ceiling_Cat glues fur, whiskers, and a tail on Fire
2008-05-12 00:14 * Ceiling_Cat huggles Fire_Cat
2008-05-12 00:14 * Fire hates renaming.
2008-05-12 00:14 * ocee sits on Ceiling_Cat and breaks his ankles ;)
2008-05-12 00:14 * Ceiling_Cat calls PETA
2008-05-12 00:15 < ocee> haha
2008-05-12 00:15 * Ceiling_Cat also calls People for the Ethical Treatment of Lolcats
2008-05-12 00:15 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: you look scary when you laugh btw.
2008-05-12 00:15 * Fire calls Scientology
2008-05-12 00:15 < Lucifer_Cat> cuz then we /know/ some shits gonna go down
2008-05-12 00:16 < Ceiling_Cat> http://tubbypaws.blogspot.com/2008/03/meow-you-can-has-lolcats.html
2008-05-12 00:19 < gwern> http://reddit.com/info/6itq3/comments/c03z4bg?context=3 <-- what do y'all think of my reply?
2008-05-12 00:21 < quanticle> Sweet.
2008-05-12 00:23 * quanticle figured out how to silence joins and parts in irssi
2008-05-12 00:24 < Ceiling_Cat> gwern - not bad
2008-05-12 00:24 < Ceiling_Cat> I didn't realize Carl Hewitt edited in my area of expertise
2008-05-12 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> unfortunately, most of our computer science articles are.... not great
2008-05-12 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> a mass of inconsistent medeocrity
2008-05-12 00:26 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: hewitt was horrible to deal with, although not as bad as the bogdanoffs
2008-05-12 00:26 < quanticle> gwern: bogdanoffs?
2008-05-12 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle - DON'T ASK
2008-05-12 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> that's a 20 minute expalantion
2008-05-12 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> (minimum)
2008-05-12 00:26 * quanticle doesn't have 20 minutes
2008-05-12 00:26 < gwern> hee hee. Ceiling_Cat knows what I'm talking 'bout
2008-05-12 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle - [[Bogdanov Affair]], and do not edit it or watchlist it
2008-05-12 00:27 * quanticle is going to bed in 10, but will ask Ceiling_Cat for the whole sordid story tomorrow.
2008-05-12 00:27 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: I'm still half of the mind that hewitt has never done anything worthwhile that I've seen, but apparently scheme and prolog are distant descendants of his work?
2008-05-12 00:27 < Ceiling_Cat> gwern - I know scheme and I've heard of prolog. I've never heard of him
2008-05-12 00:27 < Ceiling_Cat> Scheme was not invented by him
2008-05-12 00:27 < Ceiling_Cat> it was invented by some dude with facial hair whose name escapes me
2008-05-12 00:28 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: well, as I understand it, scheme grew out of whomever playing around with hewitt's actor model
2008-05-12 00:28 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Gerald Jay Sussman]] and [[Guy L. Steele Jr.]]
2008-05-12 00:28 < Ceiling_Cat> I've heard the term 'actor' used to describe (parallel) programming models
2008-05-12 00:28 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Oh good lord! 8 archives for the talk page?!
2008-05-12 00:29 < Ceiling_Cat> although in generic sense only
2008-05-12 00:29 < Ceiling_Cat> I know [[Data flow]] pretty well
2008-05-12 00:29 < Ceiling_Cat> I'm not sure how closely the two are related
2008-05-12 00:29 * Ceiling_Cat *hates* programming models
2008-05-12 00:29 < Ceiling_Cat> they're icky
2008-05-12 00:30 < gwern> quanticle: 8 archives is nothing
2008-05-12 00:30 < gwern> quanticle: make sure you read the user talk pages
2008-05-12 00:30 < gwern> and admire the brutal massacres of the english language
2008-05-12 00:30 < quanticle> gwern: Example?
2008-05-12 00:31 < gwern> no, no, better you discover for yourself
2008-05-12 00:32 < Kamping_Kaiser> heh
2008-05-12 00:33 < gwern> hm. I'm a little saddened. one of the webcomics I read is drawing up to its conclusion. (last days of foxhound). I've been reading it for long enough I find it hard to imagine concluding
2008-05-12 00:34 * quanticle is reminded by gwern
2008-05-12 00:35 < quanticle> I forgot to read Schlock Mercenary today
2008-05-12 00:36 < Jetro> Dingdong
2008-05-12 00:39 < quanticle> Hello Jetro
2008-05-12 00:39 < Jetro> Gday, sup?
2008-05-12 00:39 < quanticle> Not much.
2008-05-12 00:40 < quanticle> I'm actually off to bed right about now.
2008-05-12 00:40 < Jetro> : D
2008-05-12 00:40 * Charitwo preys on Predator
2008-05-12 00:40 < Jetro> I dighted.
2008-05-12 01:05 * Charitwo pokes Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 01:57 * Lubaf stabs Charitwo.
2008-05-12 01:59 < Charitwo> I don't believe we've met.
2008-05-12 02:00 * Fire has to go to the hospit..
2008-05-12 02:02 < denelson83> o_o
2008-05-12 02:07 < snowolf> can anybody that is *damn* certain of being using utf8 write anything in utf8? (need to check my encoding)? thx :)
2008-05-12 02:07 < Werdna> yeah, one sec
2008-05-12 02:07 < Werdna> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs#Site_access
2008-05-12 02:08 < Werdna> → → → → → → → → → → → → → → →
2008-05-12 02:08 < Werdna> there
2008-05-12 02:08 < Werdna> should be a bunch of arrows
2008-05-12 02:09 < snowolf> Werdna: ok, guess it's me that have the problem then <Snowolf grab a hammer and starts hitting Irssi very hard>
2008-05-12 02:09 < Werdna> snowolf: screen -U
2008-05-12 02:11 < snowolf> Werdna: can you kindly try now?
2008-05-12 02:11 < Werdna> 05:47 < Werdna> → → → → → → → → → → → → → → →
2008-05-12 02:12 < snowolf> :(
2008-05-12 02:12 < snowolf> bah I give up, can't care less anyway
2008-05-12 02:12 < Werdna> http://anti.teamidiot.de/tags/screen
2008-05-12 02:12 < Werdna> http://anti.teamidiot.de/nei/2007/02/irssi_putty_screen_unicode_utf/
2008-05-12 02:12 < Werdna> that one
2008-05-12 02:12 < Werdna> 1. screen -u
2008-05-12 02:12 < Werdna> 2. If you're using puTTY, change encoding
2008-05-12 02:12 < Werdna> 3. /set term_charset utf-8
2008-05-12 02:13 < snowolf> Werdna: already utf8 on irssi & using konsole, already told konsole to use utf8
2008-05-12 02:14 < Werdna> sure you exited screen entirely, and re-started it with screen -U
2008-05-12 02:19 < snowolf> yup yup
2008-05-12 02:19 < snowolf> anyway, nvm, got to focus on my mouse (went TFU, got to buy another one)
2008-05-12 02:37 < Lubaf> FOR GOD'S SAKE, THERE EXISTS A PUNCTUATION MARK KNOWN AS A COMMA! USE IT! USE IT OR DIE!
2008-05-12 02:37 * Lubaf is ticked off by this fanfic he's reading.
2008-05-12 02:44 < Fire> Lubaf: Don't scream :(
2008-05-12 02:44 < Lubaf> Fire: I'm sorry, but I just had to vent.
2008-05-12 02:44 < Lubaf> It looked good, but the author didn't grasp the concept of the comma.
2008-05-12 02:44 < Lubaf> Or pacing.
2008-05-12 02:44 < Lubaf> Or logic, as it turns out.
2008-05-12 03:05 < Rinn> Lubaf: Well, it's a fanfic.
2008-05-12 03:05 < Lubaf> Rinn: That doesn't mean that being unreadable is excusable, though.
2008-05-12 03:06 < Lubaf> And this... thing, is unreadable.
2008-05-12 03:06 < Rinn> I consider it akin to criticizing a first-grader's English assignment.
2008-05-12 03:07 < Lubaf> Rinn: And I consider the thing I just read as akin to the gas chambers at Auschwitz.
2008-05-12 03:07 < Golbez> 7.5 earthquake 50 miles from Chengdu
2008-05-12 03:07 < Golbez> but y'all probably knew that. =p
2008-05-12 03:08 < Lubaf> Golbez: Never heard of Chengdu, so, no, I didn't know about that.
2008-05-12 03:08 < Golbez> a city of 11 million people in central China
2008-05-12 03:09 < Lubaf> I withdraw the line about Auschwitz. On second thought, it is merely akin to a War Crime, rather than Genocide.
2008-05-12 03:09 < Rinn> That's the thing about the internet. Age isn't an immediately identifiable factor, so you assume bad writing was written by someone who was capable, but stupid.
2008-05-12 03:15 < koavf> Is en.wp wacky for anyone else?
2008-05-12 03:15 < koavf> E.g. the stylesheets no longer exist and user scripts don't work?
2008-05-12 03:17 < koavf> Styles are working and not scripts now; anyone else?
2008-05-12 03:22 < koavf> And now one script is working and not another.
2008-05-12 03:24 < koavf> Okay, well thanks anyway.
2008-05-12 05:14 < Mike_H> zocky: Have they re-elected Milosevic's party back in Serbia?
2008-05-12 05:15 * soufron hello
2008-05-12 05:15 < Mike_H> hello soufron
2008-05-12 05:16 < Warpath> Mikey :D
2008-05-12 05:16 < Mike_H> hey
2008-05-12 05:17 < Mike_H> zocky: pm
2008-05-12 05:29 < kisbes> hi
2008-05-12 05:29 < kisbes> how can I create a link from wikiversity to hu:wikipedia?
2008-05-12 05:32 < Rinn> Very carefully.
2008-05-12 05:33 < kisbes> [[:hu:w:article]] doesn't work
2008-05-12 05:33 < kisbes> [[:w:hu:article]] nor
2008-05-12 05:33 < Rinn> You are obviously not being careful enough.
2008-05-12 05:34 < kisbes> unfortunately I don't understand you
2008-05-12 05:35 < Rinn> One rarely does.
2008-05-12 05:36 < karora> kisbes: I don't think he's trying to be helpful (I can't help, myself, either).
2008-05-12 05:37 < kisbes> I thought the same, however, thank you
2008-05-12 06:16 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_New_Orleans_Saints_season - lol
2008-05-12 06:17 < cimon> One short sentence, and boxes galore.
2008-05-12 06:17 < White_Cat> woo
2008-05-12 06:17 < White_Cat> cimon its black
2008-05-12 06:17 < brown_cat> O_O
2008-05-12 06:18 < cimon> that is just a barebones skeleton of an article.
2008-05-12 06:19 < White_Cat> yes
2008-05-12 06:19 < White_Cat> and I am toying it like dunham toys with achmed
2008-05-12 06:19 < White_Cat> :)
2008-05-12 06:25 < cimon> "Smokey's correct full name is Smokey Bear. In 1952, songwriters Steve Nelson and Jack Rollins had a hit with "Smokey The Bear". The pair said that "the" was added to Smokey’s name to keep the song's rhythm. This small change has caused confusion among Smokey fans ever since." - heh
2008-05-12 06:30 < cimon> infact:
2008-05-12 06:30 < cimon> "One of the questions to Moron Trivia was "What is Smokey the Bear's middle name?" Answer: The."
2008-05-12 06:38 < avian> does anyone know what happened to commons db dump?
2008-05-12 06:39 < avian> the status page shows the process has been stuck since April
2008-05-12 06:41 < cimon> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Smokey_the_Bear_Sutra - awesome
2008-05-12 06:44 < cimon> "Wrathful but Calm. Austere but Comic. Smokey the Bear will Illuminate those who would help him; but for those who would hinder or slander him, HE WILL PUT THEM OUT. " - haha!
2008-05-12 06:53 < FT2> morning
2008-05-12 06:53 < FT2> has anyone seen Splash around? If he/she uses this channel?
2008-05-12 07:04 < FT2> guess not here either
2008-05-12 07:19 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodsy_Owl#Old_costumes - heh.
2008-05-12 08:20 < bjelleklang> quiet in here today..
2008-05-12 08:22 < JessicaTaylor> Just like every other day
2008-05-12 08:35 * brown_cat sprays bjelleklang with pepper spray
2008-05-12 08:35 * brown_cat watches
2008-05-12 08:36 < brown_cat> Hi JessicaTaylor D:
2008-05-12 08:36 < brown_cat> * :D
2008-05-12 08:36 < JessicaTaylor> hi brown_cat
2008-05-12 08:36 < brown_cat> sup?
2008-05-12 08:36 < bjelleklang> oi!
2008-05-12 08:38 < Lycurgus> what's the point of no public logging if you can't talk about people behind thier backs?
2008-05-12 08:39 < brown_cat> Lycurgus: this channel is turning to shiyte because, everyone is being controlled by pathetic rules
2008-05-12 08:39 < Lycurgus> when was it golden?
2008-05-12 08:40 < brown_cat> just before the old new rules were put in place
2008-05-12 08:40 < brown_cat> then afew awesome users left
2008-05-12 08:41 < brown_cat> now the channel isn't as fun as it used to
2008-05-12 08:41 < Lycurgus> ah, the no logging was in place when i first joined
2008-05-12 08:41 < brown_cat> how long ago was that?
2008-05-12 08:41 < Lycurgus> 6 months or so ago?
2008-05-12 08:41 < brown_cat> hmmm, what was probably a bit before you joined
2008-05-12 08:42 * brown_cat hugs Lycurgus
2008-05-12 08:42 * Lycurgus huggles back
2008-05-12 08:43 < Lycurgus> well carry on. I feel sick today, seeya later.
2008-05-12 08:45 < brown_cat> KILA!!!! :D
2008-05-12 08:46 < Werdna> hi ali :)
2008-05-12 08:46 < kila> brown_cat:!! been looking for you for DAYS
2008-05-12 08:46 < kila> where have you been!
2008-05-12 08:47 < kila> "where on earth is brown_cat, brown_cat; where is he..."
2008-05-12 08:47 < kila> hey werdna
2008-05-12 08:47 < brown_cat> lol, hey, I have been working :p
2008-05-12 08:47 < brown_cat> how's things?
2008-05-12 08:47 < Werdna> <3 kila
2008-05-12 08:48 * brown_cat beats the crapola out of Werdna
2008-05-12 08:48 < kila> brown_cat: working?
2008-05-12 08:48 * brown_cat <3 KILA MORE
2008-05-12 08:48 < brown_cat> oops caps
2008-05-12 08:48 < brown_cat> yes, I know, I leave my computer
2008-05-12 08:48 < brown_cat> massive shock huh
2008-05-12 08:49 < kila> brown_cat: do you mean.. school or job?
2008-05-12 08:49 < brown_cat> work work
2008-05-12 08:50 < brown_cat> as in job
2008-05-12 08:53 < SynergeticMag> woot woot - crat chat woot
2008-05-12 08:59 < Werdna> SynergeticMag: link?
2008-05-12 08:59 < SynergeticMag> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_bureaucratship/Avraham_2/Bureaucrat_discussion
2008-05-12 09:00 < SynergeticMag> it just started
2008-05-12 09:00 * SynergeticMag grabs the popcorn
2008-05-12 09:09 < chomwitt> hi, i translated template:unix commands and i want to add 'diff' , any suggestions what group would be more appropriate?
2008-05-12 09:28 < SynergeticMag> Werdna: are you in the account creator list, or is that someone else?
2008-05-12 10:03 < ThePolecat> 'lo
2008-05-12 10:04 < quanticle> Hello ThePolecat
2008-05-12 10:04 < quanticle> ThePolecat: did you have a chance to read the article I linked here yesterday?
2008-05-12 10:05 < ThePolecat> no, I didn't see it.
2008-05-12 10:05 < quanticle> http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2008/05/behave_yourself_in_berlin.cfm
2008-05-12 10:06 < quanticle> Its a list of tips for travelers to Germany. I thought you might be interested at looking at the broader world's stereotypes.
2008-05-12 10:06 < quanticle> "This straightforwardness does not mean pushiness, however. Germans are consensus-oriented, and prefer to arrive at agreement through (sometimes lengthy) discussion to avoid later misunderstanding. The American and British tendency to barrel through seemingly simple business can be considered rude."
2008-05-12 10:07 < ThePolecat> haha yea
2008-05-12 10:07 < ThePolecat> we like procedure.
2008-05-12 10:08 < quanticle> This one's amusing: "According to German superstition, if you don’t look into another person's eyes when clinking glasses, seven years of bad sex will follow"
2008-05-12 10:08 < quanticle> lolwut?
2008-05-12 10:08 < ThePolecat> eh yea, my generation is to blame for that idea.
2008-05-12 10:09 < ThePolecat> people ogle into your eyes intensely
2008-05-12 10:09 < ThePolecat> I don't think anyone older does that though
2008-05-12 10:16 * ThePolecat tootles with vigour
2008-05-12 10:17 < quanticle> "To be sure, the next president — whoever he or she may be — may well extend health care coverage to more Americans. But most of the country’s economic problems won’t be solved at the voting booth. It is already too late to stop an economic downturn. Health care costs will keep rising, no matter who becomes president or which party controls Congress. China is now a bigger carbon polluter than the United States, so don’t expect a tax o
2008-05-12 10:18 < ThePolecat> I think it will make a world of difference socially.
2008-05-12 10:19 < quanticle> ThePolecat: Right. This article is an exhortation to vote on the basis of social and foreign policy, rather than economic policy, because, as Tyler Cowen argues, the president doesn't and never had much influence upon the economy.
2008-05-12 10:19 < ThePolecat> Welcome to market economics :-)
2008-05-12 10:20 < quanticle> 'We hear so many superficial messages precisely because most American voters have neither the knowledge nor the commitment to evaluate the pronouncements of politicians on economic issues. It is no accident that the most influential political science book of the last year has been “The Myth of the Rational Voter,” by Bryan Caplan.'
2008-05-12 10:20 * ThePolecat knows he can't
2008-05-12 10:21 < ThePolecat> People tell me social systems can't be sustained, I can't verify that at all
2008-05-12 10:22 < cimon> http://www.powerset.com/explore/pset?q=Where+do+babies+come+from%3F&x=0&y=0 - hehe, still some room for improvement...
2008-05-12 10:29 < nsh> http://www.xenu-directory.net/practices/r2-45.html
2008-05-12 10:29 < nsh> fun reading
2008-05-12 11:00 < Mike2> the light shines down the valley
2008-05-12 11:00 < Mike2> the wind blows up the valley
2008-05-12 11:00 < Mike2> *alley
2008-05-12 11:20 < TropLock> !
2008-05-12 11:20 < TropLock> oops
2008-05-12 12:01 < Alkivar> LOL wikitruth is down
2008-05-12 12:05 * nsh read that as wikileaks on first take
2008-05-12 12:23 < randar> if I have a file with the title "readme.txt" and a phrase being "From the readme file:" is "readme" spelled correctly here?
2008-05-12 12:23 < randar> should it be Readme? should it be nested in quotation marks?
2008-05-12 12:25 < nsh> readme is generally capitalised according to the filename
2008-05-12 12:26 < gwern> It should be README
2008-05-12 12:26 < gwern> the reason is because how shells used to or still do sorting
2008-05-12 12:26 < gwern> all caps files would show up first
2008-05-12 12:27 * nsh mumbles something about OS-provicialism
2008-05-12 12:27 < Demi> it needs to be 00README to show up before COPYING
2008-05-12 12:27 < gwern> 'The name is chosen such that even if one were not aware that there might typically be a readme file, they would be drawn to read it because of the name. It is in upper case so that on case-preserving environments using an ASCIIbetical ordering, the name will appear near the beginning of a directory listing (since upper-case letters sort before lower-case letters in ASCIIbetical ordering).'
2008-05-12 12:28 < gwern> from [[README]]
2008-05-12 12:28 < randar> there are two files in each zip archive, there's no point to all caps
2008-05-12 12:28 * gwern thinks it's perfectly sensible, even if COPY/LICENSE/INSTALL/AUTHORS would appear before README
2008-05-12 12:29 < Demi> i remember when .DOC didn't mean it would be a word document
2008-05-12 12:30 < randar> by the way, I was asking about how to 'type' "readme" in the "From the readme file:" phrase, not the filename
2008-05-12 12:32 < Demi> isn't it funny how no one is ever canadian in movies or tv shows?
2008-05-12 12:58 < Mike2> how can i add a hide feature to a sortable table?
2008-05-12 13:02 < Mike2> ah, found it
2008-05-12 13:03 < Mike2> actually, no i haven't :(
2008-05-12 13:04 < Luzer> HAGGER????
2008-05-12 13:07 < Working_Cat> i promised not to come on to #wikipedia unless i HAD to...
2008-05-12 13:07 < Working_Cat> and i just HAD to come to post this...
2008-05-12 13:07 < Working_Cat> http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/my_cat_sarah/
2008-05-12 13:10 < Working_Cat> anyone?
2008-05-12 13:10 < Working_Cat> quanticle
2008-05-12 13:10 < Working_Cat> ThePolecat
2008-05-12 13:11 * Working_Cat huggles WilliamH_Cat
2008-05-12 13:11 < WilliamH_UK> hello
2008-05-12 13:11 < WilliamH_UK> and good day to you all
2008-05-12 13:11 < Working_Cat> sup
2008-05-12 13:11 < WilliamH_UK> not much, my wikimood is not as great as earlier
2008-05-12 13:12 < Working_Cat> what happened
2008-05-12 13:12 < WilliamH_UK> im not sure if it would be appropriate to discuss here
2008-05-12 13:13 < Working_Cat> hmmm
2008-05-12 13:13 < WilliamH_UK> still a little disappointed, but it wont get me down
2008-05-12 13:13 * Working_Cat understands
2008-05-12 13:14 < WilliamH_UK> i mean it
2008-05-12 13:14 < WilliamH_UK> i will not let it get me down
2008-05-12 13:14 < Alkivar> Working_Cat: did you read the comments on that dilbert blog post?
2008-05-12 13:14 < Working_Cat> i voted on some too, yes
2008-05-12 13:14 < Alkivar> I just love cats. They are the purrfect size for my rotisserie. I recommend a good garlic butter basting. Don't try frying them. They do NOT taste like chicken.
2008-05-12 13:14 < Alkivar> i <3 that lol
2008-05-12 13:14 < Working_Cat> it was a -1
2008-05-12 13:14 < Working_Cat> i made it 0 :P
2008-05-12 13:14 < Alkivar> btw Wikitruth is down
2008-05-12 13:15 < WilliamH_UK> i believe i may have 'recruited' (for want of a better word)
2008-05-12 13:15 < Working_Cat> WilliamH_Cat: Something to cheer you: http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/my_cat_sarah/
2008-05-12 13:15 < WilliamH_UK> another editor
2008-05-12 13:15 < Working_Cat> Alkivar: now whats wikitruth again?
2008-05-12 13:15 < Working_Cat> i have trouble keeping track of all these pro, pseudo, anti and wannabe wikis
2008-05-12 13:16 * WilliamH_UK wants to go to a wikimeet
2008-05-12 13:18 * WilliamH_UK wow did i kill them convo
2008-05-12 13:18 < Aqwis> yes.
2008-05-12 13:18 * WilliamH_UK facepalms
2008-05-12 13:19 < Alkivar> lol wikitruth was the site hosting all our deleted articles
2008-05-12 13:19 < Alkivar> and anti-wikipedia rants about random topics
2008-05-12 13:20 < Working_Cat> good thing its down
2008-05-12 13:22 < Aqwis> wooh, wr next stop
2008-05-12 13:22 < Working_Cat> heh
2008-05-12 13:23 < Alkivar> wikipedia is a multiplayer
2008-05-12 13:23 < Alkivar> you need the select in the code for multiplayer
2008-05-12 13:23 < Working_Cat> heh heh heh
2008-05-12 13:23 < Aqwis> mmorpgs don't have cheat codes
2008-05-12 13:23 < Working_Cat> sez hoo
2008-05-12 13:24 < Alkivar> Diablo had gold cheats
2008-05-12 13:24 < Alkivar> and other hacks
2008-05-12 13:24 < Alkivar> so your wrong :P
2008-05-12 13:24 < Aqwis> diablo wasn't a real mmorpg
2008-05-12 13:24 * Working_Cat accquits Aqwis
2008-05-12 13:25 < Alkivar> there we go... changing the rules to exclude cases... you must be a republican
2008-05-12 13:25 < Alkivar> :P
2008-05-12 13:25 < Aqwis> hey :(
2008-05-12 13:26 < Working_Cat> wow. Alkivar, that was totally uncalled for.
2008-05-12 13:28 < Aqwis> yus, banhammer him!
2008-05-12 13:34 < WilliamH_UK> back later, toodles
2008-05-12 13:36 < Working_Cat> bbot:
2008-05-12 13:37 < gwern> 'The Bush administration on Friday urged a federal appeals court to stop meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease, but a skeptical judge questioned whether the government has that authority.' http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1738877,00.html WTF
2008-05-12 13:37 * gwern starts a debate: 'Bush administration: Evil, or incredibly malicious?'
2008-05-12 13:37 < Demi> THREAT OR MENACE?!
2008-05-12 13:38 < gwern> 'Larger meatpackers have opposed Creekstone's push to allow wider testing out of fear that consumer pressure would force them to begin testing all animals too. Increased testing would raise the price of meat by a few cents per pound.'
2008-05-12 13:39 < Demi> it's like why slackers hate the productive employee
2008-05-12 13:41 < Working_Cat> heh
2008-05-12 13:41 < Ceiling_Cat> HELLO KIDS!
2008-05-12 13:41 * Freya punts Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 13:41 * quanticle huggle Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 13:41 < Ceiling_Cat> My girlfriend just sent me the following email:
2008-05-12 13:41 < Ceiling_Cat> http://xkcd.com/422/
2008-05-12 13:41 < Ceiling_Cat> Don't get any ideas from this cartoon.
2008-05-12 13:41 * Working_Cat glues rubber tongue and wagging tail to Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 13:42 < Freya> lol....
2008-05-12 13:42 < Ceiling_Cat> :)
2008-05-12 13:42 < Freya> that picture.. cute :P
2008-05-12 13:42 * quanticle would have gone to prom if such an alternative had been offered
2008-05-12 13:42 < Ceiling_Cat> *would* have?
2008-05-12 13:42 < Ceiling_Cat> or would not have?
2008-05-12 13:42 * Working_Cat did not have prom in his country :(
2008-05-12 13:43 < Freya|Class> work hard, raul. :P
2008-05-12 13:43 < Demi> i would have gone to prom if i had had a junior or senior year of high school
2008-05-12 13:43 < Ceiling_Cat> Freya|Class - I finished my master's thesis as of this morning :)
2008-05-12 13:43 < Ceiling_Cat> the ACM *finally* got back to me
2008-05-12 13:43 < Demi> it's kind of unappealing that Ceiling_Cat's girlfriend is in high school, though
2008-05-12 13:43 < Ceiling_Cat> it only took 3 weeks, 4 email, and 3 phone calls
2008-05-12 13:43 < Ceiling_Cat> emails*
2008-05-12 13:44 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Regarding your paper?
2008-05-12 13:44 < Ceiling_Cat> Demi - she's not. She graduated college at the same time I did
2008-05-12 13:44 < Alkivar> i went to too many proms
2008-05-12 13:44 < Demi> why is she going to prom, then, Ceiling_Cat?
2008-05-12 13:44 < Alkivar> i think i went to 7 in total (not counting my own senior prom)
2008-05-12 13:44 < quanticle> Alkivar: That means you're not a true nerd. GTFO
2008-05-12 13:44 < Alkivar> i didnt go to my own senior prom as i hated everyone in the school
2008-05-12 13:44 < gwern> "Just because the Gregorian calendar doesn't have one does not mean that a SW calendar must lack one" <-- is that a quadruple negative?
2008-05-12 13:45 < quanticle> gwern: I think its a triple negative.
2008-05-12 13:45 < quanticle> gwern: So it means the opposite of what you think it does.
2008-05-12 13:45 < Reedy> doesn't, does not and lack
2008-05-12 13:45 < Reedy> triple, ya
2008-05-12 13:45 < Alkivar> instead of going to my own senior prom i drove 12 hrs to go with a friend to her junior prom at my old high school
2008-05-12 13:45 < gwern> quanticle: yeah, but the 'just because' part sometimes is idiomatically used as negation
2008-05-12 13:46 < Alkivar> i went in quite possibly the scariest tux you can imagine
2008-05-12 13:47 < Alkivar> black jacket, neon orange vest, black pants with neon orange stripes down the legs ... and i had a neon orange baseball cap on ... rock that 80s shit :P
2008-05-12 13:48 < Freya|Class> Ceiling_Cat has a g/f? I thought that the reason he's Ceiling_Cat is because he likes watching others...
2008-05-12 13:48 < Alkivar> as far as i know there are no pictures of me in that tux... and thank god for that
2008-05-12 13:48 < Working_Cat> ok
2008-05-12 13:48 < gwern> '"When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth" by Cory Doctorow. In this story we get to live the apocalyptic event as it happens. Some systme administrators are working on their servers after an emergency call and they are trapped in their building when some terrible events, nuclear, biological and human agression, occur. Felix, the main character, loses his wife and child, but tries to build a new and better world. Even though I was lost sometime in the technical la
2008-05-12 13:48 < Ceiling_Cat> Freya|Class - who says I don't like to watch others?
2008-05-12 13:48 * Ceiling_Cat always like to watch
2008-05-12 13:48 < Alkivar> you can be a voyeur and still have a gf
2008-05-12 13:48 < gwern> '"Mute" by Gene Wolfe. The story is about two children that come home and find it empty and find an empty land. I have to admit that I didn't understand this story.' <-- gene wolfe often receives that reaction :(
2008-05-12 13:48 < Freya|Class> question is... is your gf also a voyeur
2008-05-12 13:48 < Alkivar> its especially fitting if the gf is an exibitionist :P
2008-05-12 13:48 < Ceiling_Cat> Freya|Class - http://wiki-elysium.blogspot.com/2008/03/irc.html
2008-05-12 13:48 < Working_Cat> ok i have no idea what todays strip means.
2008-05-12 13:49 < Working_Cat> whats with the formally dressed lan party.
2008-05-12 13:49 < Alkivar> cause how many geeks do you know who would go to prom given the alternative ?
2008-05-12 13:49 < Working_Cat> dont people usually go to lan parties dressed like the grad students they are?
2008-05-12 13:49 < gwern> Working_Cat: it's a choice being presented
2008-05-12 13:49 * Working_Cat would :S
2008-05-12 13:49 < Demi> Working_Cat - it's "whimsical"
2008-05-12 13:49 < gwern> Working_Cat: the idea being that people's ideas of what makes a great party has changed
2008-05-12 13:50 < Working_Cat> if i had a good looking date
2008-05-12 13:50 < Ceiling_Cat> grad students make the world go round
2008-05-12 13:50 < Working_Cat> which i prolly wouldnt
2008-05-12 13:50 < Working_Cat> so... *sigh* .. yeah i'd go to the lan party too
2008-05-12 13:50 < gwern> Working_Cat: the prom is the 'old' way; the 'new' way is a lan party
2008-05-12 13:50 < gwern> you can have a prom unformally dressed, so presumably you can have a formally dressed lan party
2008-05-12 13:50 * Freya|Class would go to the prom :P
2008-05-12 13:50 * Freya|Class went to both HS junior/senior prom XD
2008-05-12 13:51 < Alkivar> AHAHAHA check out this retarded woodpecker
2008-05-12 13:51 < Alkivar> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=748_1210332748
2008-05-12 13:51 < White_Cat> Freya|Class pay attention to class
2008-05-12 13:51 * Ceiling_Cat watches tawker
2008-05-12 13:51 * White_Cat doesnt like proms
2008-05-12 13:51 < Demi> saturday a couple promgoers were playing miniature golf on their date
2008-05-12 13:51 < White_Cat> proms are for pussies
2008-05-12 13:51 * White_Cat eyes the Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 13:51 < White_Cat> prom attender!
2008-05-12 13:52 * tawker watches Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 13:52 < White_Cat> although your entire participation was from the ceiling
2008-05-12 13:52 * Working_Cat ignores Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 13:52 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat watching is like bird watching
2008-05-12 13:52 < tawker> so, did you guys listen to the latest few podcasts
2008-05-12 13:52 < tawker> on wikipediaweekly.org
2008-05-12 13:52 < Aqwis> now what the heck is a prom
2008-05-12 13:52 < Working_Cat> http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/my_cat_sarah/
2008-05-12 13:52 < White_Cat> a cover for watching girls
2008-05-12 13:52 < Aqwis> is it a ball kind of?
2008-05-12 13:52 < Working_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: read that ^
2008-05-12 13:52 < Aqwis> right.
2008-05-12 13:52 < White_Cat> tawker is a peeping tom
2008-05-12 13:53 < Ceiling_Cat> tawker , White_Cat , Working_Cat - every time you watch ceiling_cat, god kills a million humans
2008-05-12 13:53 < Ceiling_Cat> please, think of the humans
2008-05-12 13:53 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat yes
2008-05-12 13:53 < White_Cat> which is fine
2008-05-12 13:53 < White_Cat> we payed in advance
2008-05-12 13:54 * Working_Cat watches Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 13:54 < White_Cat> in burma
2008-05-12 13:54 < Working_Cat> this is so cool!
2008-05-12 13:54 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat - lol
2008-05-12 13:54 * Working_Cat watches some more
2008-05-12 13:54 < Ceiling_Cat> that's so terrible
2008-05-12 13:54 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat now in China too
2008-05-12 13:54 < White_Cat> worls most populated location...
2008-05-12 13:54 < White_Cat> populated with humans that is
2008-05-12 13:54 < Working_Cat> cool, they have a tornado coming up?
2008-05-12 13:54 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat that was dark wasnt it?
2008-05-12 13:55 * Working_Cat furiously watches Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 13:55 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat - it was hilarious
2008-05-12 13:55 < Ceiling_Cat> grrr.... this is so absurd
2008-05-12 13:55 < Ceiling_Cat> I have to pay $95 to have my thesis published open access, so it's free for others to see
2008-05-12 13:55 < White_Cat> you have to pay to make it free?
2008-05-12 13:55 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: better than not being open access
2008-05-12 13:55 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat - yes
2008-05-12 13:56 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: but you don't own the copyright?
2008-05-12 13:56 < tawker> Ceiling_Cat: why not publish on your blog
2008-05-12 13:56 < tawker> as a secondary medium
2008-05-12 13:56 < Ceiling_Cat> gwern - if it were traditional, I would get royatlies and it would cost me nothing to publish
2008-05-12 13:56 < White_Cat> so you are patyed money to restrict it?
2008-05-12 13:56 < Ceiling_Cat> so either it's unfree-and-it-pays-you, or you pay so that others don't have to
2008-05-12 13:56 < Ceiling_Cat> that a rip
2008-05-12 13:56 < Ceiling_Cat> what*
2008-05-12 13:57 < Ceiling_Cat> tawker - I do that already
2008-05-12 13:57 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat how about making it unfree until you make $95 ?
2008-05-12 13:57 < gwern> White_Cat: probably irreversible?
2008-05-12 13:57 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat - it is highly unlikely it will ever make that much in royalties
2008-05-12 13:57 < Ceiling_Cat> and it is probably irreversable
2008-05-12 13:57 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat it is always reversable
2008-05-12 13:57 < White_Cat> you are the copyright holder
2008-05-12 13:57 < White_Cat> you can do whatever you like with your work
2008-05-12 13:58 < Ceiling_Cat> White_Cat - it is reversable in theory. In practice, I have no idea if it's possible to have the publisher change it once it is publshed
2008-05-12 13:58 < White_Cat> publish the publishers dirty secrets
2008-05-12 13:58 < White_Cat> his dealings with the New Yorks maddame
2008-05-12 13:58 < gwern> White_Cat: that's what I asked
2008-05-12 13:58 < gwern> is Ceiling_Cat the copyright holder? if he is, paying for open access is pointless
2008-05-12 13:58 < gwern> just upload it to Commons or something
2008-05-12 13:59 < White_Cat> gwern thats not a scientific medium
2008-05-12 13:59 < Ceiling_Cat> gwern - that's not how science works
2008-05-12 13:59 < Ceiling_Cat> it needs to be published in a reputable source
2008-05-12 13:59 < White_Cat> he obviously isnt seeking web space
2008-05-12 13:59 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat like wikipedia?
2008-05-12 13:59 < White_Cat> xD
2008-05-12 13:59 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat will you replace NYB?
2008-05-12 13:59 < gwern> good grief! so publish a sha256sum of the published version
2008-05-12 14:00 < White_Cat> gwern $95 isnt so bad
2008-05-12 14:00 < gwern> and upload the equivalent PDF to commons
2008-05-12 14:00 < gwern> and let the publisher keep the locked up version
2008-05-12 14:00 < White_Cat> gwern he can do that
2008-05-12 14:00 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat you can pay me $95
2008-05-12 14:00 < White_Cat> and I will upload it to commons for you
2008-05-12 14:01 < White_Cat> I'll even credit you
2008-05-12 14:01 < White_Cat> for a $5 extra charge of course
2008-05-12 14:01 < nsh> what's the beef?
2008-05-12 14:02 * nsh looks around quizzically
2008-05-12 14:02 < quanticle> White_Cat: I'm not sure he gets to keep the copyright.
2008-05-12 14:02 < White_Cat> quanticle of course he does
2008-05-12 14:03 < White_Cat> you can make agreemnts to share some rights
2008-05-12 14:03 < White_Cat> but you will always own the copyright
2008-05-12 14:03 < White_Cat> reversing it may be costly tho
2008-05-12 14:03 < gwern> White_Cat: what world do you live in? copyright is very alienable
2008-05-12 14:03 < quanticle> White_Cat: The journal might require him to give up copyright as a condition of publication. An exclusivity arrangement, if you will. I know newspapers do something similar for their editorials.
2008-05-12 14:04 < White_Cat> quanticle that can happen in media
2008-05-12 14:04 < White_Cat> or in enterttainment
2008-05-12 14:04 < White_Cat> not sicentific works
2008-05-12 14:04 < quanticle> White_Cat: What world do you live in?
2008-05-12 14:04 < White_Cat> all scientific work must be resuable
2008-05-12 14:04 < White_Cat> including commercialy
2008-05-12 14:04 < White_Cat> to restrict that there is a thing called pattents
2008-05-12 14:04 < quanticle> White_Cat: Ummm. Two words: trade secrets.
2008-05-12 14:04 < gwern> quanticle: I already asked that :)
2008-05-12 14:04 < White_Cat> quanticle right
2008-05-12 14:05 < quanticle> gwern: The question bears repeating.
2008-05-12 14:05 < White_Cat> its a secret so long as it isnt leaked
2008-05-12 14:05 * gwern begins quietly to ignore White_Cat as cuckoo in the head
2008-05-12 14:05 < quanticle> White_Cat: Ok. Well, you just try to republish Ceiling_Cat's paper, and we'll see how far you go.
2008-05-12 14:05 < White_Cat> its not my paper
2008-05-12 14:05 < White_Cat> and I'd prefer not to work for a preverted cat that lives in the ceiling
2008-05-12 14:06 < White_Cat> watching ugly ass guys masturbate
2008-05-12 14:06 < White_Cat> urgh
2008-05-12 14:06 < quanticle> White_Cat: But don't scientific works have to be reusable?
2008-05-12 14:06 < quanticle> O_o
2008-05-12 14:06 < White_Cat> and you know how cats clean themselves
2008-05-12 14:06 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat is a disgusting concept
2008-05-12 14:06 < White_Cat> [2008-05-12 21:06:41] <White_Cat> all scientific work must be resuable
2008-05-12 14:06 < White_Cat> [2008-05-12 21:06:50] <White_Cat> including commercialy
2008-05-12 14:06 < White_Cat> [2008-05-12 21:07:01] <White_Cat> to restrict that there is a thing called pattents
2008-05-12 14:07 < Ziggy_CGI> sup dawgs
2008-05-12 14:07 < Ziggy_CGI> what should I do now?
2008-05-12 14:07 < White_Cat> die
2008-05-12 14:07 < White_Cat> please die
2008-05-12 14:07 < White_Cat> well?
2008-05-12 14:07 < Ziggy_CGI> ._.
2008-05-12 14:07 < Ziggy_CGI> what did I do to deserve that?
2008-05-12 14:07 < White_Cat> why are you still alive?
2008-05-12 14:07 < White_Cat> Ziggy_CGI hmm
2008-05-12 14:07 < White_Cat> I dont know
2008-05-12 14:07 < Ziggy_CGI> actually, I died a long time ago
2008-05-12 14:07 < Ziggy_CGI> (///_.)
2008-05-12 14:07 < White_Cat> using gateway/web/ajax is reason enough
2008-05-12 14:07 < Ziggy_CGI> </wrists>
2008-05-12 14:08 < Ziggy_CGI> Danel Brant?
2008-05-12 14:08 < brant> hello
2008-05-12 14:08 < brant> danel?
2008-05-12 14:08 < Ziggy_CGI> anyway
2008-05-12 14:08 < Ziggy_CGI> I finished improving [[Tungsten]]
2008-05-12 14:08 < Ziggy_CGI> what should I do now?
2008-05-12 14:08 < Ziggy_CGI> Move on to [[molybdenum] or [[bismuth]]?
2008-05-12 14:08 < quanticle> [[bismuth]] is my vote.
2008-05-12 14:08 < Fire> bismuth
2008-05-12 14:08 < Ziggy_CGI> welll
2008-05-12 14:09 < Ziggy_CGI> those aren't the only choices
2008-05-12 14:09 < Ziggy_CGI> I'm trying to pick something from the core 1000
2008-05-12 14:09 < Ziggy_CGI> WP:ORE
2008-05-12 14:09 < Ziggy_CGI> whoops
2008-05-12 14:09 < Ziggy_CGI> WP:CORE
2008-05-12 14:09 < White_Cat> work on anime related articles
2008-05-12 14:09 < tawker> umm
2008-05-12 14:10 < White_Cat> all other work do not mater
2008-05-12 14:10 < tawker> history... important stuff
2008-05-12 14:10 < tawker> no pokemon articles
2008-05-12 14:10 < Ziggy_CGI> hehe
2008-05-12 14:10 * tawker stares at Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-12 14:10 < Ziggy_CGI> it boggles my mind
2008-05-12 14:10 < Ziggy_CGI> that when [[Science]] is a stub
2008-05-12 14:10 < Ziggy_CGI> [[Blastoise]] is FA
2008-05-12 14:10 < tawker> we have our priorities really borked
2008-05-12 14:10 < Ziggy_CGI> not those articles per se, but a lot of things liek that happen
2008-05-12 14:10 < Ziggy_CGI> *like
2008-05-12 14:10 < Ziggy_CGI> We should start a movement to cleanup the core 1000
2008-05-12 14:10 < Ziggy_CGI> and focus on those
2008-05-12 14:11 < Ziggy_CGI> come to think of it, [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] has been looking rather bland lately... <hint>
2008-05-12 14:12 < Ziggy_CGI> tawker?
2008-05-12 14:13 < tawker> well
2008-05-12 14:13 < tawker> we have articles on useless stuff
2008-05-12 14:13 < tawker> and no core ones

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