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2008-05-11 19:25 < quanticle> Prattle: I'm tired of giving to charity, will you please give your money in my stead?
2008-05-11 19:25 < Prattle> i'm not making any of you do it, i just to want to assure excellence in encyclopedic writing.
2008-05-11 19:25 < lucasbfr> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hummus&diff=211746851&oldid=211594964 no idea who's right
2008-05-11 19:25 < The359> Messedrocker, do you have a game yet?
2008-05-11 19:25 < Prattle> bah, whatever i say will fall on deaf ears :(
2008-05-11 19:26 < The359> well you were in here an hour ago insulting everyone, Prattle
2008-05-11 19:26 < Prattle> next time you meet someone who knows arabic, ask him that and he will tell you i'm right
2008-05-11 19:26 < The359> so what do you expect?
2008-05-11 19:26 < Prattle> insulting everyone? what do you mean? i heard from the review that krimpet was banned or blocked or something and I wanted to know something more about it
2008-05-11 19:26 < quanticle> Prattle: Ok. You can ask your mythical Arabic speaking friend to fix it, then.
2008-05-11 19:27 < quanticle> Prattle: The Wikipedia Review is hardly the most accurate source for news about Wikipedia.
2008-05-11 19:27 < The359> <prattle> i just wanted to get a word about the Krimpet thing from inside the hive-mind itself
2008-05-11 19:27 < The359> <prattle> anyways, i'd love to participate in this circle-jerk of manbiguity but i have other things to do
2008-05-11 19:27 < Prattle> is there something wrong with inquiry? I wanted to get both sides of the equation, one from the review and one from WP, but i never got this side's views...
2008-05-11 19:27 < Lycurgus> yep #wikipedia-ar
2008-05-11 19:27 < lucasbfr> tried to fix it, but I came out with a 3rd spelling
2008-05-11 19:28 < quanticle> Prattle: Given the portrayal of Wikipedia by the Wikipedia Review, I hardly think that you ought to be repeating their claims about Wikipedia in this channel. Its rather a bit like quoting Rush Limbaugh at the Democratic National Convention.
2008-05-11 19:29 < Messedrocker> the359 i screwed it up so unfortunately not
2008-05-11 19:29 < The359> can't start another one?
2008-05-11 19:29 < Messedrocker> i met my maximum
2008-05-11 19:29 < The359> or are you in the game already
2008-05-11 19:29 < The359> ah, ok
2008-05-11 19:29 * Lucifer_Cat has officially pwnt the Senate.
2008-05-11 19:29 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Oh. That's unfortunate.
2008-05-11 19:30 < quanticle> I have room for one more game, does anyone want in?
2008-05-11 19:30 < Messedrocker> hey, now that i have room again (on account of lucifer cat), who wants to do a... different map?
2008-05-11 19:30 * The359 shrug
2008-05-11 19:30 < The359> someone figure something out
2008-05-11 19:30 < Messedrocker> "Alexander's Empire" how about that
2008-05-11 19:30 < The359> and I'll play
2008-05-11 19:30 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-11 19:31 < Messedrocker> the359 lucifer_cat quanticle 2419255
2008-05-11 19:31 < Lucifer_Cat> if i start a game, i'll keep on playing instead of actually packing.
2008-05-11 19:31 < Messedrocker> GO GO GO GO
2008-05-11 19:31 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: i said no
2008-05-11 19:32 < The359> I think you fucked up again, Messedrocker
2008-05-11 19:33 < Lucifer_Cat> heh.
2008-05-11 19:33 < Lucifer_Cat> what did he do before?
2008-05-11 19:33 < quanticle> Messedrocker: First of all, that's a two-player game. Second of all, the other slot's taken.
2008-05-11 19:33 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-11 19:33 < The359> yeah
2008-05-11 19:33 < Lucifer_Cat> happy game Messedrocker
2008-05-11 19:34 * Lucifer_Cat cant stop XD
2008-05-11 19:34 < Lucifer_Cat> btw...
2008-05-11 19:34 < quanticle> Anyway, I still have room for one more game.
2008-05-11 19:34 * Lucifer_Cat Recommends IronMan
2008-05-11 19:34 < Prattle> thanks for your help but they don't seem too receptive either
2008-05-11 19:34 < Prattle> anyways, let's hope these go on brandt's page eventually
2008-05-11 19:34 < quanticle> Or, rather, two more games, given that Lucifer_Cat just wiped me out on the Senate map.
2008-05-11 19:35 < The359> yes, let's hope
2008-05-11 19:35 < quanticle> Anyway, who wants in? Lucifer_Cat, The359, Messedrocker, FastLizard4?
2008-05-11 19:35 < Lucifer_Cat> not me
2008-05-11 19:35 < The359> yes
2008-05-11 19:36 < The359> give me a game that finally works
2008-05-11 19:36 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Do you have room for one more game?
2008-05-11 19:36 * quanticle wants at least three players
2008-05-11 19:37 < Messedrocker> quanticle, i did fuck up
2008-05-11 19:37 < Lucifer_Cat> who won the pearl harbor
2008-05-11 19:37 < Messedrocker> i keep overlooking the number of players slot
2008-05-11 19:37 < Messedrocker> pearl harbor has not been won yet
2008-05-11 19:37 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: No one, yet, although FastLizard4 looks like he's about to win.
2008-05-11 19:38 < The359> No one, we're waiting on FastLizard4|away
2008-05-11 19:38 < Lucifer_Cat> lizzy heh
2008-05-11 19:38 < quanticle> OMG. We're talking about someone behind their backs.
2008-05-11 19:38 < The359> we're not calling him fat or anything
2008-05-11 19:38 < The359> oh, wait..
2008-05-11 19:38 * Lucifer_Cat wonders if anyone will team up with him next time :S
2008-05-11 19:39 < Lucifer_Cat> its not like we called him a FatLizard4
2008-05-11 19:39 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: It all comes down to the contingencies of the moment. If I'd gotten the massive bonus that you did, I'd have turned on my allies too.
2008-05-11 19:39 < quanticle> After all, there can only be one winner in a freestyle match.
2008-05-11 19:40 < Lucifer_Cat> i didnt turn on any allies :S
2008-05-11 19:40 < cimon> Lucifer_Cat: bay of pigs, oyster harbour,
2008-05-11 19:41 < Ziggy_Sawdust> SNUPPY PUPPY
2008-05-11 19:41 < Ziggy_Sawdust> SNUPPY PUPPY
2008-05-11 19:41 < Lucifer_Cat> i only make sure that once the alliance ends, im not in a fuggable position :P
2008-05-11 19:41 < Ceiling_Cat> MAOR KATZ!
2008-05-11 19:41 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles Ziggy_Sawdust
2008-05-11 19:41 * quanticle huggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-11 19:41 * Ziggy_Sawdust watches Rozen Maiden
2008-05-11 19:41 * Ziggy_Sawdust finishes Azumanga Daioh
2008-05-11 19:41 < cimon> Mark Pellegrini: has the US yet ever officially apologized for what they did with the zimmerman telegraph?
2008-05-11 19:42 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: i was actually pulling out of that area once i finished lizzy. you guys would have given him a 35 army bonus if he lasted one more turn.
2008-05-11 19:42 < gwern> smulatenously?
2008-05-11 19:42 < gwern> Ziggy_Sawdust: AMAZING
2008-05-11 19:42 < Ziggy_Sawdust> hahaha
2008-05-11 19:42 < Ziggy_Sawdust> no
2008-05-11 19:42 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: You remembered to make Minnesota the FA today!
2008-05-11 19:42 < Ziggy_Sawdust> I'm watching Azumaiden Daioh
2008-05-11 19:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Cimon - why would we apologize?
2008-05-11 19:42 < Ceiling_Cat> The brits intercepted it, and the german foreign minister confirmed its authenticity
2008-05-11 19:43 < cimon> Mark Pellegrini: sorry, i meant the UK apologize, you were clearly the mark who was suckered in...
2008-05-11 19:43 < Ziggy_Sawdust> whereas Chiyo-chan = Hina Ichigo, Sakaki = Suigintou, Kaorin = Kirakishou, Chihiro = Barasuishou, Tomo = Suiseiseki, Yomi = Souseiseki, etc
2008-05-11 19:43 < gwern> Ziggy_Sawdust: some sort of marimite crossover/
2008-05-11 19:43 < gwern> ?
2008-05-11 19:43 < Ceiling_Cat> cimon - why would the brits apologize?
2008-05-11 19:44 * quanticle is laying out the specs. for a Mothers Day computer
2008-05-11 19:44 < The359> so is there going to be a game or no?
2008-05-11 19:44 < cimon> Mark Pellegrini: Majestic
2008-05-11 19:44 < The359> I figure I'll go find one myself
2008-05-11 19:44 < quanticle> The359: Heh. If I can't find three players I don't think I'll bother.
2008-05-11 19:44 < Ceiling_Cat> cimon - Huh? The brits intercepted a radio telegram by enemies during a declared war
2008-05-11 19:44 < Ceiling_Cat> nothing they did was illegal or unethical
2008-05-11 19:44 < The359> ok, whatev, I'll join a random public game
2008-05-11 19:44 < The359> for practice
2008-05-11 19:45 * quanticle is in a public game right now
2008-05-11 19:45 < quanticle> The359: Chinese Checkers is a really fun map for games with a large number of players.
2008-05-11 19:47 < cimon> Mark Pellegrini: well, if you are willing to be a pawn of british interests, I don't see how I could make you feel any shame...
2008-05-11 19:48 < Ceiling_Cat> cimon - you seem to be having issues with reality.
2008-05-11 19:48 < Lucifer_Cat> lol whats wrong with intercepting enemy communicatons at war time?
2008-05-11 19:48 < Lucifer_Cat> isnt that like the whole point?
2008-05-11 19:48 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - one would except. Cimon apparently disagrees
2008-05-11 19:49 < Ceiling_Cat> expect*
2008-05-11 19:49 < cimon> nah
2008-05-11 19:49 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I bet cimon also feels that people should "play fair" in war.
2008-05-11 19:49 < cimon> getting into a fight where you are getting in under prestenses...
2008-05-11 19:49 < Lucifer_Cat> lolzors
2008-05-11 19:50 < cimon> nah at all
2008-05-11 19:50 < cimon> anything goe
2008-05-11 19:50 < Lucifer_Cat> what was that getting in under pretenses part
2008-05-11 19:50 < cimon> but be fooled, you aren't being patriotic, you are doing some othe nations bidding
2008-05-11 19:50 < Lucifer_Cat> *prestenses
2008-05-11 19:50 < quanticle> cimon: In that case, pretenses, false flags, and outright treachery are par for the course.
2008-05-11 19:51 < cimon> yes of course
2008-05-11 19:51 < quanticle> cimon: I think you'll find that, today, the British do our bidding, not the other way around.
2008-05-11 19:51 < cimon> but still
2008-05-11 19:51 < cimon> haha
2008-05-11 19:51 < Lucifer_Cat> ok so did they just snatch a telegraph or did that lead to some big shit?
2008-05-11 19:51 < cimon> the US entered the war
2008-05-11 19:51 < Lucifer_Cat> ah the mexican thing?
2008-05-11 19:51 < Lucifer_Cat> and cimon you say that it was authentic yes?
2008-05-11 19:51 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Yeah. It was the infamous telegram between the Germans and the Mexicans.
2008-05-11 19:52 < Ceiling_Cat> Cimon - except it wasn't under false pretenses. The german foreign minister confirmed the telegram's authenticity
2008-05-11 19:52 < Lucifer_Cat> as in the germans really WERE planning that
2008-05-11 19:52 < Lucifer_Cat> well, then whats wrong.
2008-05-11 19:53 < Lucifer_Cat> but cimon has a point. its not like /we/ have /ever/ led the brits into a war based on false intelligence.
2008-05-11 19:53 < cimon> okay, so only the route taken was silly
2008-05-11 19:53 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Some historians believe that the British deliberately translated the telegram to be extra inflammatory, in order to draw the US into WW1
2008-05-11 19:54 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: just like how i blow up other players threat to form alliances in a dog eat dog game
2008-05-11 19:54 < Lucifer_Cat> ?
2008-05-11 19:55 * Lucifer_Cat cant see whats wrong with that :S
2008-05-11 19:55 < Lucifer_Cat> also, from what i know, the US people were looking for an excuse too. one flimsy pretext or another, they would have joined anyways.
2008-05-11 19:56 < Lucifer_Cat> US govt*
2008-05-11 19:56 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Indeed. Hell, we almost went in after the sinking of the Lusitania.
2008-05-11 19:57 < cimon> For the record, the past US - Finland game in Canada, There is one thing Finns and Norte Americano can agree, the Russian referee sucked big time!!
2008-05-11 19:58 < quanticle> cimon: Heh.
2008-05-11 19:58 < Lucifer_Cat> what? gwyneth paltrow is just 35?? i thought she was a lot older
2008-05-11 19:59 < Cream> remember, botox helps
2008-05-11 19:59 < cimon> quanticle: I am not kidding: I doubt there is one patriotic Finn who would deny the first Finnish goal was invalid...
2008-05-11 19:59 < Lucifer_Cat> who else here thinks gwyneth paltrow is adorably cute.
2008-05-11 19:59 < Ziggy_Sawdust> what?
2008-05-11 19:59 < Ziggy_Sawdust> No.
2008-05-11 19:59 < Lucifer_Cat> Cream: its the other way round
2008-05-11 19:59 < Lucifer_Cat> it helps older people to look younger...
2008-05-11 20:00 < quanticle> cimon: Really? The goal was that blatantly unfair? So much so that even the Finns would admit to it being wrong?
2008-05-11 20:01 < cimon> absolute
2008-05-11 20:01 < cimon> quanticle: yes, but the referee was on the finnish tgeams case way way hard. just bad refereeing, not biased, just an idiot...
2008-05-11 20:02 < The359> well, I appear to finally be doing decently in a game
2008-05-11 20:02 < The359> British Isles map
2008-05-11 20:02 < cimon> quanticle: If the steering committee has any gonads at all, no way is that referee going to officiate anything.
2008-05-11 20:02 < The359> against a Sergeant and Corporal
2008-05-11 20:03 < quanticle> The359: Well, don't get too cocky this early in the game.
2008-05-11 20:03 < The359> yeah, I know
2008-05-11 20:03 < The359> I just mean we're all staying about even
2008-05-11 20:03 < The359> rather than me struggling
2008-05-11 20:04 < yao_ziyuan> i talked with russians in #wikipedia-ru yesterday
2008-05-11 20:04 < yao_ziyuan> sounds they're reasonable people
2008-05-11 20:04 < yao_ziyuan> and they love freedom
2008-05-11 20:04 < The359> you saying Brits and Americans don't?
2008-05-11 20:04 < quanticle> The359: Did you finally get a good initial army layout? I know that, in a lot of maps, they way your armies are laid out at the beginning can have a huge impact on your long term viability.
2008-05-11 20:05 < yao_ziyuan> for example, when i said putin is going to censor "extremist" information online, they said it's impossible because they've got used to online freedom.
2008-05-11 20:05 < The359> yes, and I didn't start last in the order as well
2008-05-11 20:05 < quanticle> The359: Looks like you finally caught a lucky break.
2008-05-11 20:05 < The359> we each basically had a section we dominated, and right now we're just taking each of them over
2008-05-11 20:05 < Lucifer_Cat> The359: the fucking will start in round 5
2008-05-11 20:06 < The359> I'm sure
2008-05-11 20:06 < quanticle> The359: Do you care to post the game ID?
2008-05-11 20:06 < The359> I'm about to control the most powerful section though
2008-05-11 20:06 < Kofiz2> wat
2008-05-11 20:06 < The359> 2419181
2008-05-11 20:06 < The359> South England is worth 7 armies, so that'll help
2008-05-11 20:06 < Lucifer_Cat> The359: game# if you want real time advice
2008-05-11 20:06 * The359 shrug
2008-05-11 20:06 < The359> I think I can manage on my own
2008-05-11 20:06 < The359> even if I lose, I'm improving
2008-05-11 20:07 < Kofiz2> Is this Risk or something else >_>
2008-05-11 20:07 < DrSkullthumper> Don't know what this might mean to you guys, but you've got a repeat Uncyc vandal on your channel (Cream)
2008-05-11 20:07 < The359> Cream's been here a while, DrSkullthumper
2008-05-11 20:08 < DrSkullthumper> Just lettin' you know
2008-05-11 20:08 < Ziggy_Sawdust> DrSkullthumper: what is that supposed to mean?
2008-05-11 20:08 < DrSkullthumper> Ziggy_Sawdust: It means that I happen to know this person - w00t - from vandalizing our wiki, and I figured another wiki-oriented channel ought to know, so sue me
2008-05-11 20:09 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ehe
2008-05-11 20:09 < Cream> nope
2008-05-11 20:09 < Ziggy_Sawdust> w00t =/= Cream
2008-05-11 20:09 < Cream> never did that
2008-05-11 20:09 < DrSkullthumper> Ziggy_Sawdust: How do you know?
2008-05-11 20:10 < Ziggy_Sawdust> DrSkullThumper: Well, "w00t" is spelled w-zero-zero-t, whereas "Cream" is not
2008-05-11 20:10 < Lucifer_Cat> Ziggy_Sawdust: XD
2008-05-11 20:11 < DrSkullthumper> Whatever. I've said what I needed to say, I'm not going to argue the point.
2008-05-11 20:11 < The359> How do you know Cream is w00t?
2008-05-11 20:11 < Lucifer_Cat> DrSkullthumper: how do you know it is cream
2008-05-11 20:11 < Lucifer_Cat> heh
2008-05-11 20:11 < denelson83> Cream of W00t?
2008-05-11 20:11 < DrSkullthumper> The ops on Uncyc determined it somehow some while ago
2008-05-11 20:12 < DrSkullthumper> Only reason why I noticed is because he PM'd me asking if the "fucking jews" on our channel would unban him
2008-05-11 20:12 < Lubaf> One of the more amusingly lame edit wars of the past few months has been the edit war at [[WP:GIANTDICK]].
2008-05-11 20:12 < Lubaf> Nothing in the text is touched.
2008-05-11 20:12 < Lucifer_Cat> DrSkullthumper: thanks a lot for your heads up. we will watch out for it.
2008-05-11 20:12 < Lubaf> Only what image should be used to illustrate what a "giant dick" looks like.
2008-05-11 20:13 < DrSkullthumper> No worries
2008-05-11 20:13 < Lucifer_Cat> Lubaf: WP:LAME
2008-05-11 20:13 < Lubaf> Lucifer_Cat: Already there.
2008-05-11 20:13 < Lubaf> It's still amusingly lame.
2008-05-11 20:14 < Ziggy_Sawdust> DrSkullthumper: plz stop the personal attacks
2008-05-11 20:14 < Lucifer_Cat> DrSkullthumper: he has never been more than slightly nutty here though. we'll be sure to kick him down there if he acts like that here.
2008-05-11 20:14 < DrSkullthumper> Ziggy_Sawdust: I'm honestly not trying to personally attack anyone, just give a channel fair warning about information I know and they don't.
2008-05-11 20:16 < Kofiz2> How do I say this song is popular without being all pov and stuff
2008-05-11 20:17 < Lucifer_Cat> Ziggy_Sawdust: he might be right you know.
2008-05-11 20:17 < Lucifer_Cat> Kofiz2: cite singles sales/billboard positions.
2008-05-11 20:17 < Kofiz2> OK
2008-05-11 20:18 < Ziggy_Sawdust> He may be right.
2008-05-11 20:18 < Ziggy_Sawdust> I may be crazy.
2008-05-11 20:18 < Ziggy_Sawdust> But it just may be a lunatic he's looking for.
2008-05-11 20:18 < Kofiz2> I was trying to go the other route and find a citation saying how many different artists have recorded it but nothing so far :/
2008-05-11 20:18 < The359> shit
2008-05-11 20:18 < The359> and now my game has turned sour
2008-05-11 20:19 < cimon> Lubaf: would you take an image file I sent to you?
2008-05-11 20:19 < Lubaf> cimon: Depends.
2008-05-11 20:19 < Lubaf> Is it a URL, or is it a file?
2008-05-11 20:19 * Lubaf can take a URL.
2008-05-11 20:19 * Lubaf can't take a file.
2008-05-11 20:19 < Lucifer_Cat> Ziggy_Sawdust: well, ofcourse you ARE crazy, but thats not the point here. also, hes not asking us to kick him. and he added the last part only after we asked. we should atleast take a note.
2008-05-11 20:20 < cimon> Lubaf: it is me hugging a boa constrictor, but yes, it is a file.
2008-05-11 20:20 < Lubaf> cimon: Upload it to commons.
2008-05-11 20:21 < cimon> Lubaf: what will I justify it as?
2008-05-11 20:21 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ...
2008-05-11 20:21 < Lubaf> cimon: A picture of a guy hugging a boa constrictor.
2008-05-11 20:23 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-11 20:24 < cimon> Lubaf: the problem is I don't own the snake, how do I say I have a model release for the snake?
2008-05-11 20:26 < The359> Lucifer_Cat, you were right
2008-05-11 20:26 < The359> things did get pretty heavy in Round 5
2008-05-11 20:26 * Lucifer_Cat knows his Risk shit :)
2008-05-11 20:27 < The359> But I'm still doing well, still hold two territories
2008-05-11 20:27 < cimon> Lubaf: I can Upload the snake and me hugging... I am pretty sure it's days are numbered though, if I do so...
2008-05-11 20:28 < Lubaf> cimon: I don't care anymore.
2008-05-11 20:28 < Lubaf> Upload it, don't upload it, I've seen plenty of photos of guys hugging boas before.
2008-05-11 20:29 * Messedrocker likes the general strategy he uses in games
2008-05-11 20:30 < Lucifer_Cat> who?
2008-05-11 20:30 * Mike_H pets everyone in attendance.
2008-05-11 20:30 < cimon> LUbaf: I have had too many files that are useful deleted. I am not one to "dig out blood from my own nose" as the colourful term in my nation has it.
2008-05-11 20:31 * Lucifer_Cat pets Mike_H
2008-05-11 20:31 < Mike_H> "dig out blood from my own nose"?
2008-05-11 20:31 < Mike_H> ew.
2008-05-11 20:39 * TheWeasel is frustrated by dial-up sluggishness
2008-05-11 20:39 < Cream> I understand you
2008-05-11 20:39 < Lucifer_Cat> whizzle
2008-05-11 20:39 < Lucifer_Cat> sawgrl?
2008-05-11 20:40 * TheWeasel did not see grl as planned
2008-05-11 20:40 < TheWeasel> but oh well
2008-05-11 20:41 * Ceiling_Cat nom noms Cream
2008-05-11 20:41 * Cream enjoys his ADSL+2
2008-05-11 20:41 < Cream> oh hai Ceiling_Cat <3
2008-05-11 20:42 < cimon> Mike_H: I think the English equivalent of "dig out blood from my own nose" is "borrow trouble"...
2008-05-11 20:42 < Mike_H> we borrow trouble?
2008-05-11 20:42 * TheWeasel has some excellent trouble to let
2008-05-11 20:43 < cimon> no, I am saying I don't want any of it...
2008-05-11 20:43 < cimon> Do no arm, AFG and all jat tazz
2008-05-11 20:43 < Mike_H> ah
2008-05-11 20:43 < Cream> Ceiling_Cat, what did you give your mom for mother's day?
2008-05-11 20:44 < TheWeasel> dahlin'/please don't treat me ba-had
2008-05-11 20:45 < Ziggy_Sawdust> lol wut
2008-05-11 20:46 < Hello32020> O_o
2008-05-11 20:48 < quanticle> TheWeasel: You're back!
2008-05-11 20:48 < Alkivar> nah
2008-05-11 20:48 < Alkivar> its a clone
2008-05-11 20:48 < quanticle> :)
2008-05-11 20:49 < Alkivar> it only has pre-programmed responses
2008-05-11 20:49 < Alkivar> it cant think for itself
2008-05-11 20:49 < Alkivar> i'll prove it...
2008-05-11 20:49 < Alkivar> Weasel: Obama vs Hillary ... who will win
2008-05-11 20:49 < quanticle> Alkivar: In any case, I have a question for TheWeasel's knowledge of German culture.
2008-05-11 20:49 < yao_ziyuan> i just learned some energy facts:
2008-05-11 20:50 < quanticle> Energy is always conserved?
2008-05-11 20:50 < yao_ziyuan> america has controlled the world's oil reserve, and can exploit biomass to relieve its energy needs;
2008-05-11 20:50 < Alkivar> energy = the mass times the speed of light squared?
2008-05-11 20:51 < yao_ziyuan> russia has too much oil, so it is happy to be in the first class in this energy chain
2008-05-11 20:51 < Mike_H> cimon: I wanted to link you to a good Solid Gold clip
2008-05-11 20:51 < bbot> Alkivar: yep
2008-05-11 20:51 < Mike_H> but then I remembered your connection :(
2008-05-11 20:51 < yao_ziyuan> europe and japan don't have oil, but they have many nuclear plants
2008-05-11 20:51 < yao_ziyuan> so they don't have much of a problem either
2008-05-11 20:51 < quanticle> TheWeasel: In all seriousness, can you have a look at this article? http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2008/05/behave_yourself_in_berlin.cfm
2008-05-11 20:51 < Alkivar> japan needs oil
2008-05-11 20:51 < yao_ziyuan> the third class is india and china,
2008-05-11 20:52 < Alkivar> remember oil isnt just used for vehicles
2008-05-11 20:52 < Alkivar> its also used to manufacture plastics
2008-05-11 20:52 < yao_ziyuan> who have to find resources in burma, zimbabwe, etc.
2008-05-11 20:52 < cimon> Mike_H: don't worry any longer, I fixed my you-tube problems..
2008-05-11 20:52 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: Not necessarily. India has substantial reserves of Thorium and Uranium.
2008-05-11 20:52 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: And China has substantial coal reserves.
2008-05-11 20:52 < Mike_H> cimon: oh, good!
2008-05-11 20:52 < Mike_H> cimon: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NKndO0-sFQo
2008-05-11 20:52 < cimon> Mike_H: I still won't feel amused by soaps...
2008-05-11 20:52 < Mike_H> It's Solid Gold, it's a dance/music show
2008-05-11 20:53 < Alkivar> speaking of youtube... Mike watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S52p2AMISFk
2008-05-11 20:53 < Mike_H> with Andy Gibb and Marilyn McCoo
2008-05-11 20:53 < cimon> nor skanky models
2008-05-11 20:53 < yao_ziyuan> i'm reading an article released by the chinese govt, explaining this Zimbabwe weapons shipping event
2008-05-11 20:53 < Mike_H> cimon: They weren't skanky back in 1981!
2008-05-11 20:53 < Mike_H> and they're dancers!
2008-05-11 20:53 < Alkivar> everyone was skanky in the early 80s
2008-05-11 20:54 < Alkivar> so your completely wrong mike :P
2008-05-11 20:54 < cimon> Mike_H: sorry, fail
2008-05-11 20:54 < Alkivar> the early 80s is the hookers and blow period of america culture
2008-05-11 20:54 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: The issue with China's energy "problem" is not the fact that China has insufficient energy reserves, but that China has insufficient reserves of energy that don't cause massive air quality issues.
2008-05-11 20:55 < cimon> Mike_H: it tells me to upload an update, and I won't do that...
2008-05-11 20:55 < yao_ziyuan> burma has natural gas, and china, india and south korea are competing to grab it
2008-05-11 20:55 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: Indeed. Natural gas burns a hell of a lot cleaner than coal.
2008-05-11 20:55 < yao_ziyuan> quanticle: lol, god damn china
2008-05-11 20:55 < Alkivar> china is the #1 nation in shitty air quality
2008-05-11 20:56 < yao_ziyuan> so america doesn't even bother to invade burma because it doesn't have *oil*
2008-05-11 20:56 < yao_ziyuan> america is only interested in *oil*
2008-05-11 20:56 < Alkivar> they are also the #1 polutant in regards to CFCs and other greenhouse gas effecting products
2008-05-11 20:56 < yao_ziyuan> not other kinds of natural resources
2008-05-11 20:56 < yao_ziyuan> right?
2008-05-11 20:56 < Messedrocker> alkivar, if new jersey was its own country, where would it rank relative to china?
2008-05-11 20:56 < Alkivar> Messedrocker: probably #8 or #9
2008-05-11 20:56 < quanticle> Alkivar: Which is why they're going so easy on Burma. They want Burma for the same reason the Japanese wanted it.
2008-05-11 20:56 < Alkivar> some of the former russian states are way worse
2008-05-11 20:56 < Mike_H> Alkivar: oh, no, this clip is from 1982
2008-05-11 20:57 < Mike_H> Centerfold was the #1
2008-05-11 20:57 < Alkivar> is it Azerbajan that has the oil pipeline?
2008-05-11 20:57 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: America's desire for oil is also natural, given that our infrastructure is built for gasoline and diesel burning wheeled vehicles.
2008-05-11 20:58 < quanticle> Alkivar: I think so.
2008-05-11 20:58 < Mike_H> Alkivar: but music was pretty shitty in 1982.
2008-05-11 20:58 < yao_ziyuan> quanticle: but america is also moving to oil independence
2008-05-11 20:58 < Mike_H> Air Supply AND Sheena Easton both had songs in the Top 10.
2008-05-11 20:58 < yao_ziyuan> quanticle: e.g. biofuel and electrical cars
2008-05-11 20:58 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: That's patent bullshit, and everybody knows it, but no one cares to admit it.
2008-05-11 20:58 < Alkivar> azerbajian is also horribly polluting
2008-05-11 20:59 < Alkivar> its gotta be up there with china
2008-05-11 20:59 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: Ethanol takes almost as much oil to produce as gasoline.
2008-05-11 20:59 < Alkivar> they're basically taking a 2nd (arguably 3rd) world former soviet bloc nation and turning it into a giant oil refinery
2008-05-11 20:59 < quanticle> Alkivar: Who? Azerbaijan?
2008-05-11 20:59 < Mike_H> Alkivar: Well, it would be a 2nd world country.
2008-05-11 20:59 < Alkivar> yes
2008-05-11 20:59 < Mike_H> "2nd world" is communism, which they were until the 1990s.
2008-05-11 20:59 < yao_ziyuan> quanticle: then you didn't catch recent Wired.com issues
2008-05-11 21:00 < yao_ziyuan> quanticle: technology that converts biomass to energy has matured
2008-05-11 21:00 < yao_ziyuan> quanticle: which explains why there is a worldwide rice crisis
2008-05-11 21:00 < Alkivar> Mike_H: as poorly run and as split rich vs poor... i'd argue some african nations were in better shape
2008-05-11 21:00 < Alkivar> thats why theres a decent argument to be made regarding 3rd world
2008-05-11 21:01 < Mike_H> Alkivar: Well, of course, Azerbaijan has nothing on its neighbor Armenia, and Armenia is struggling itself.
2008-05-11 21:01 < Alkivar> armenia doesnt have the natural resources
2008-05-11 21:01 < Alkivar> azerbaijan gets all the attention because of the oil in that baltic region
2008-05-11 21:02 < Alkivar> ack i dont mean baltic
2008-05-11 21:02 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: Wired and Popular Science are to science reporting what the National Enquirer is to real news. Most things you read in those two publications has to be taken with a large grain of salt. After all, Wired has been talking about fusion power since its inception, and PopSci has been talking about it for even longer, but we don't have any appreciable progress there.
2008-05-11 21:02 < Mike_H> Alkivar: Black?
2008-05-11 21:02 < Alkivar> Caspian
2008-05-11 21:02 < Alkivar> its the Caspian sea to the east
2008-05-11 21:02 < Mike_H> Oh, I thought it was the Black Sea.
2008-05-11 21:03 < Alkivar> black sea is to the west
2008-05-11 21:03 < Alkivar> i had to go check a map...
2008-05-11 21:03 < yao_ziyuan> quanticle: i also noticed wired's futuristic flavor, full of hypes
2008-05-11 21:04 < Alkivar> Azerbaijan will be mined to death guarenteed
2008-05-11 21:04 < Alkivar> they have Oil, Natural Gas, and Coal
2008-05-11 21:04 < quanticle> yao_ziyuan: Yeah. My rule of thumb is to add anywhere from 5 to 25 years onto any prediction that Wired Magazine, proportional to the amount of hype and breathlessness in the story.
2008-05-11 21:04 < Mike_H> yao_ziyuan: you live in the US, don't you?
2008-05-11 21:05 < Alkivar> as well as gold, silver, iron, copper, titanium, chromium, manganese, cobalt, molybdenum, and antimony
2008-05-11 21:05 < yao_ziyuan> Mike_H: no
2008-05-11 21:05 < Alkivar> and i believe they also have uranium as well
2008-05-11 21:05 < yao_ziyuan> Mike_H: china
2008-05-11 21:05 < Mike_H> oh, I thought you didn't live in China anymore
2008-05-11 21:05 < yao_ziyuan> Mike_H: how?
2008-05-11 21:06 < Mike_H> I thought you were in California
2008-05-11 21:06 < Mike_H> like working for the tech companies there
2008-05-11 21:06 < yao_ziyuan> Mike_H: how did you come to that tought?
2008-05-11 21:06 < yao_ziyuan> *thought
2008-05-11 21:06 < Alkivar> and Azerbaijan is 95% muslim...
2008-05-11 21:06 < Mike_H> I guess I erroneously assumed...it's no big deal, really...
2008-05-11 21:06 < yao_ziyuan> Mike_H: probably because i talked about silly valley lately
2008-05-11 21:06 < Alkivar> of which 85% are Shia and 15% Sunni
2008-05-11 21:07 < Alkivar> so dont be surprised if we invade them in 10-15 years
2008-05-11 21:07 < Mike_H> Alkivar: We don't care about Azerbaijan
2008-05-11 21:07 < Alkivar> if we arent invited in by the giant conglomerates buying up all available lad there
2008-05-11 21:07 < Mike_H> it's no Iraq!
2008-05-11 21:07 < Alkivar> Mike_H: its the most important oil producing nation on earth right now
2008-05-11 21:07 < quanticle> Alkivar: At this rate, Azerbaijan will be have an average elevation of -50 ft by 2050.
2008-05-11 21:07 < Mike_H> Alkivar: clearly we're not in it for the oil if OPEC is pissed at Bush
2008-05-11 21:08 < Alkivar> supposedly they are sitting on a larger oil field than Saudia Arabia
2008-05-11 21:08 < quanticle> Alkivar: Again, -50ft by 2050. Hell, that should be like their official motto or something.
2008-05-11 21:09 < Alkivar> Now that Western oil companies are able to tap deepwater oilfields untouched by the Soviets because of poor technology, Azerbaijan is considered one of the most important spots in the world for oil exploration and development. Proven oil reserves in the Caspian Basin, which Azerbaijan shares with Russia, Kazakhstan, and Turkmenistan, are comparable in size to the North Sea, although exploration is still in the early stages.
2008-05-11 21:09 < Alkivar> from our article on their economy
2008-05-11 21:10 < quanticle> Alkivar: Hmmm. As I recall, the North Field oil basin really didn't turn out to be as big as everyone had hoped.
2008-05-11 21:10 < quanticle> Er, North Sea, rather.
2008-05-11 21:10 < Messedrocker> what's all this jibba jabba
2008-05-11 21:10 < Messedrocker> i have to compile Darwin MYSELF?
2008-05-11 21:10 < Messedrocker> how the hell would i do that?
2008-05-11 21:10 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Indeed you do.
2008-05-11 21:11 < quanticle> Messedrocker: RTFM.
2008-05-11 21:11 < Messedrocker> i know RTFM. I was asking rhetorically
2008-05-11 21:11 < Alkivar> the scary thing is the median income in Azerbaijan is 4x that of the USA
2008-05-11 21:11 < Lycurgus> bullshit
2008-05-11 21:12 < Alkivar> their GDP grew 57% in 2007
2008-05-11 21:12 < Alkivar> currently their currency exchanges 1 of theirs for 1.38$
2008-05-11 21:12 * Mike_H watches Solid Gold Countdown '85
2008-05-11 21:12 < Lucifer_Cat> doing quite well The359
2008-05-11 21:12 < Lycurgus> per capita GDP < $7K according to wp
2008-05-11 21:14 < Alkivar> yeah thats estimated off 2005 numbers
2008-05-11 21:14 < Alkivar> their GDP has increased 114% since 2005
2008-05-11 21:14 < Lucifer_Cat> whose?
2008-05-11 21:14 < Alkivar> Azerbaijan
2008-05-11 21:14 < Lucifer_Cat> fugg
2008-05-11 21:16 < cimon> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7394384.stm - wow, shades of Steve Irwin...
2008-05-11 21:16 < quanticle> Alkivar: The median income might be higher than in the US, but what's the standard deviation in incomes? I'd be willing to wager that there's hellish amounts of income inequality there.
2008-05-11 21:16 < cimon> freak ways of getting in jurer
2008-05-11 21:17 < Alkivar> actually i just rechecked my math
2008-05-11 21:17 < Lycurgus> percapita us is $43K
2008-05-11 21:18 < Mike_H> ugh, why wasn't Thriller the top song of '83?
2008-05-11 21:18 < Alkivar> lycurgus: i said Median income... not Per Capita
2008-05-11 21:18 < Mike_H> It was only the #2 song of 1983
2008-05-11 21:18 < Lycurgus> even if theirs doubled it's still not $169K
2008-05-11 21:18 < Lycurgus> which is what it would have to be to be 4x
2008-05-11 21:18 < Lycurgus> idiot maybe meant a quarter
2008-05-11 21:19 < Alkivar> the article i read said it was around 150k usd
2008-05-11 21:19 < Alkivar> but the income inequality there is rediculous
2008-05-11 21:19 < Alkivar> you've got folks making 50mil and folks making 5,000 a year
2008-05-11 21:19 < Lycurgus> the gini cofficient is high 36
2008-05-11 21:20 < Lycurgus> but the numbers still can't work
2008-05-11 21:20 < Alkivar> wouldnt be the first time a reporter fudged numbers...
2008-05-11 21:21 < Alkivar> in any event... here's how i calculate GDP growth
2008-05-11 21:21 < Lycurgus> because if GDP doubles it would still only be about 100 billion and there are 9 million people
2008-05-11 21:21 < Lycurgus> median means the number in the middle
2008-05-11 21:21 < Lycurgus> now if were talking households
2008-05-11 21:21 < Lycurgus> that allows all kinkd of foolish miscmparisons
2008-05-11 21:21 < Alkivar> if X = 1 in 2004 then X = 2.447 in 2007
2008-05-11 21:22 < cimon> Mike_H: how do you like Say Say Say?
2008-05-11 21:22 < Alkivar> so the difference is 1.447 = 144.7% GDP growth from 2004 to 2007 based on the numbers i have
2008-05-11 21:23 < Lycurgus> well if they're pumpimg oil in large amounts, they'll get there soon
2008-05-11 21:23 < Alkivar> i said 114 i meant 144
2008-05-11 21:23 < Alkivar> with the GDP % change
2008-05-11 21:23 < Alkivar> and the official GDP growth figure for 2007 isnt out yet
2008-05-11 21:24 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2413893 <--- Lol the game ended in round 5 XD
2008-05-11 21:24 < cimon> Mike_H: I could probably get both BBc and youtoube stuff shown, but I fricking don't like them saying I have to download an updated flash player, if I don't get it updated thourhg ubuntu themselves. I don't like updating players via Firefox...
2008-05-11 21:24 < Alkivar> thats based on data from 2005, 2006 and 3/4ths of 2007
2008-05-11 21:24 < Messedrocker> it was a really short game, Lucifer_Cat, because it was a very small map
2008-05-11 21:24 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah i can see that.
2008-05-11 21:24 < Lucifer_Cat> its a nice intense map to play on a fast game
2008-05-11 21:25 < Lucifer_Cat> the ones that give you 5 mins tp play
2008-05-11 21:25 < Lucifer_Cat> its like an orgasm.
2008-05-11 21:25 < Lucifer_Cat> to whoever wins ofcourse.
2008-05-11 21:25 < cimon> Anyone here on the channel from the south of Italy?
2008-05-11 21:26 * Mike_H plays the #28 song of 1981.
2008-05-11 21:26 * Mike_H NP: Stars on 45 - Stars on 45 Medley (1981)
2008-05-11 21:27 < Lucifer_Cat> cimon: lattitude wise? i think yeah.
2008-05-11 21:28 < Lucifer_Cat> if you mean from south italy... then idk
2008-05-11 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> Dennis Farina was arrested on felony charges
2008-05-11 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> apparently he tried to board a plane with a loaded handgun
2008-05-11 21:31 < cimon> Lucifer_Cat: hmm, I just have this memory of seeing this french/or/spanish, (honestly not sure) very very camp television show, where there were these very grave looking dignitaries listening to a southern italian guy in traditional garb, white pants and shirt, with red scarf round the neck, singing...
2008-05-11 21:32 < Lucifer_Cat> dude.
2008-05-11 21:32 < Lucifer_Cat> im not from south italy.
2008-05-11 21:32 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Pussyfoot.
2008-05-11 21:32 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: is there a good reason for me to know Dennis Farina?
2008-05-11 21:33 < Lucifer_Cat> OctoPussy
2008-05-11 21:33 < cimon> Lucifer_Cat: I can't really recreate the impression it made on me in text, but it really seemed like the story of the song was one of protest against a lord, and the dignitaries listening to it were both enjoying the audacity of the performer, but yet, the performer was being very bold...
2008-05-11 21:33 < Lucifer_Cat> <now someone has to name something ending in octo>
2008-05-11 21:33 < Lucifer_Cat> cimon: i dont care really. sorry.
2008-05-11 21:34 < cimon> no porb
2008-05-11 21:34 < Lucifer_Cat> as i said, im not from anywhere close to europe :S
2008-05-11 21:34 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: You want to start a game?
2008-05-11 21:34 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: when im done moving to the new place. not atm.
2008-05-11 21:35 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Ah. Ok. You're moving?
2008-05-11 21:35 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Long distance move?
2008-05-11 21:35 < Lucifer_Cat> also starting a game on sunday night = courting monday morning blues.
2008-05-11 21:35 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Indeed.
2008-05-11 21:35 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: 12 miles.
2008-05-11 21:35 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: So in town then. Cool.
2008-05-11 21:35 < cimon> Raul: I once offered to buy a drink to a guy in an Irish Bar, who was a dead ringer for Dennis Farina... He declined, saying if I did so, I would be expecting a favor down the line...
2008-05-11 21:35 < Lucifer_Cat> im just lazy thats it. i need to clean this place out well
2008-05-11 21:36 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Do you already have TV and Internet set up at the new place, or should we expect you to be offline for a while?
2008-05-11 21:36 < Lucifer_Cat> they are supposed to have wireless internet
2008-05-11 21:36 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: That is good to hear.
2008-05-11 21:36 < Lucifer_Cat> and i am getting the cable internet too.
2008-05-11 21:36 < Lucifer_Cat> i dont like wireless
2008-05-11 21:37 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: But it can be useful when nothing else available.
2008-05-11 21:37 < Lucifer_Cat> also, im not really confident in my laptop's wireless card.
2008-05-11 21:37 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: sure it.
2008-05-11 21:37 < Lucifer_Cat> is*
2008-05-11 21:39 < Lucifer_Cat> and since they already include basic/extended cable with the rent, getting the internet add on will only cost be 35 (as compared to 59.99 otherwise)
2008-05-11 21:42 < Lucifer_Cat> http://dilbert.com/fast <--- lolxox
2008-05-11 21:45 < isdead> hi
2008-05-11 21:46 < quanticle> isdead is... alive?
2008-05-11 21:46 < quanticle> Or isdead just a zombie?
2008-05-11 21:46 < quanticle> :)
2008-05-11 21:46 < isdead> no I'm dead
2008-05-11 21:46 < isdead> =p
2008-05-11 21:46 < quanticle> isdead: IRC'ing from beyond the grave?
2008-05-11 21:47 < isdead> yup
2008-05-11 21:47 < isdead> isn't here the hell?
2008-05-11 21:47 < isdead> oops
2008-05-11 21:48 < hugyup> hi~
2008-05-11 21:49 < hugyup> isdead
2008-05-11 21:49 < isdead> yeah
2008-05-11 21:49 < hugyup> ....
2008-05-11 21:49 < hugyup> is not hanirc...
2008-05-11 21:49 < hugyup> hangul ....
2008-05-11 21:49 < hugyup> help eeeeeee
2008-05-11 21:50 < Lucifer_Cat> isdead: you mentioned hell?
2008-05-11 21:50 < Lucifer_Cat> would you like a tour?
2008-05-11 21:50 < isdead> lol
2008-05-11 21:51 < Hello32020> anyone bored wanna copyedit an article of mine
2008-05-11 21:51 * Lucifer_Cat doffs his hat to Messedrocker
2008-05-11 21:51 * Messedrocker takes Lucifer_Cat's hat away
2008-05-11 21:51 < Lucifer_Cat> fuggler
2008-05-11 21:52 * Mike_H NP: Nena - 99 Luftballons (1984)
2008-05-11 21:53 < quanticle> Mike_H: Great song
2008-05-11 21:53 < Mike_H> quanticle: I like the German version better
2008-05-11 21:53 < quanticle> Mike_H: Indeed. The German version is better.
2008-05-11 21:56 < Lucifer_Cat> linky linky
2008-05-11 21:56 < Mike_H> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ngl7U-L3YLk
2008-05-11 21:56 < quanticle> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQYQTFudrqc
2008-05-11 21:57 < Lucifer_Cat> thanks sweeties
2008-05-11 21:57 < Lucifer_Cat> ahhhhhh
2008-05-11 21:58 < Lucifer_Cat> heard this one on scrubs
2008-05-11 21:58 * Lucifer_Cat realizes that the joke was funnier than he'd realized then
2008-05-11 21:58 < Lucifer_Cat> just like i read asterix again after my vocab had greatly expanded
2008-05-11 22:01 * Lucifer_Cat starts the 99Luft Balons meme
2008-05-11 22:02 < Lucifer_Cat> except that i dont have any meme prompting talent :S
2008-05-11 22:05 < Lucifer_Cat> There are 47 people in this picture.
2008-05-11 22:06 < The359> oops
2008-05-11 22:06 < The359> during today's GP2 Series race in Istanbul, two wild dogs wandered onto the track
2008-05-11 22:07 < The359> One of which was promptly hit by a car
2008-05-11 22:07 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CStfT8gCrjM&NR=1
2008-05-11 22:10 * denelson83 's Firefox spontaneously crashes
2008-05-11 22:13 < Alkivar> http://tinyurl.com/62zxvn <-- your average wikipedia editor
2008-05-11 22:15 < Lucifer_Cat> are average wikipedia editors better or worse than average people?
2008-05-11 22:15 < Lucifer_Cat> not the median... the average
2008-05-11 22:15 < The359> we're horrible people
2008-05-11 22:16 < Yuyudevil> evil mutants
2008-05-11 22:16 < Monobi> :-O
2008-05-11 22:17 < Daniel_Bush> http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ConeTentAndCylinder/ I don't recall ever seeing or hearing about a tent before. Is this geometric shape useful for anything?
2008-05-11 22:19 < Lucifer_Cat> Daniel_Bush: camping?
2008-05-11 22:20 < The359> traps
2008-05-11 22:20 < Daniel_Bush> I can't remember any actual tents looking like that
2008-05-11 22:20 < Daniel_Bush> Oh, I guess it'd make a good...knob
2008-05-11 22:20 < Lucifer_Cat> wow.. this pizza is horribly tasteless
2008-05-11 22:22 < Daniel_Bush> Actually, I guess it'd look like a tent if the base weren't a circle, and the single edge sagged like a parabola
2008-05-11 22:22 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PJzMHObabo&NR=1 <---------------- a good WikiSkill to have
2008-05-11 22:22 < Yuyudevil> it's the next generation mathematically beautiful camping tent
2008-05-11 22:23 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM&feature=related <--------- this too
2008-05-11 22:25 < Fire> :-)
2008-05-11 22:25 < Fire> Hey Mark
2008-05-11 22:26 < Mark_Ryan> hey ronny :)
2008-05-11 22:26 < Mark_Ryan> how's life in Sunny Germany?
2008-05-11 22:26 < Fire> Can I answer you that question in a PM as I wanted to pm you anyway?
2008-05-11 22:26 * Mike_H pets Mark_Ryan
2008-05-11 22:27 < Mark_Ryan> sure, Fire
2008-05-11 22:27 < Mark_Ryan> hi mikey wikey
2008-05-11 22:29 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7zj81gOrLQ
2008-05-11 22:29 < Lucifer_Cat> wtf mike
2008-05-11 22:29 < Lucifer_Cat> i'd much rather get rick rolled
2008-05-11 22:30 < Mike_H> :<
2008-05-11 22:34 < Daniel_Bush> What is it called if you have a regular polygon like a pentagon as a base, and connect all the vertices on the base to a line drawn above it? The line would be parallel to a line that could be drawn between two vertices of the base.
2008-05-11 22:34 < Daniel_Bush> Like the tent I linked, but with a square instead of a circle
2008-05-11 22:36 < Daniel_Bush> "tent" seems to actually be a general name for any base with a single line floating above it
2008-05-11 22:37 < Daniel_Bush> I should ask elsewhere. #math didn't know and it's not like you would either
2008-05-11 22:37 < Yuyudevil> sounds like a pyramid but maybe it's not
2008-05-11 22:38 < Daniel_Bush> A pyramid is a base with a single vertex floating above it. I mean a straight line floating above it.
2008-05-11 22:39 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle
2008-05-11 22:40 < Yuyudevil> http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/irc-logs/8030347.html did someone approve this open log?
2008-05-11 22:41 < DoubleAW> http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/findchat.html the hell is this?
2008-05-11 22:41 < The359> we don't approve any open logs, Yuyudevil
2008-05-11 22:42 < Yuyudevil> The359: that's what i thought as well
2008-05-11 22:44 < Mike_H> WKRG-TV has been the CBS television station in Mobile, Alabama and Pensacola, Florida since its inception in 1955. The station was brought to the city when a radio signal tower was erected, putting WKRG-TV as well as WKRG AM and FM radio on the air.
2008-05-11 22:44 < Mike_H> crap
2008-05-11 22:44 < Mike_H> sorry!
2008-05-11 22:45 < Daniel_Bush> I've got my answer. I think you just use the name of the base if you need clarification, except in the special case of the rectangle and circle
2008-05-11 22:46 < Yuyudevil> http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/hivemind.html holy crap
2008-05-11 22:46 < Alkivar> hi and welcome to last year
2008-05-11 22:46 < Alkivar> actually welcome to 2005
2008-05-11 22:47 < DoubleAW> Alkivar: nice to see you too
2008-05-11 22:48 < Alkivar> hey i was on that list from late 2005 til early 2007
2008-05-11 22:49 < Alkivar> all brandt wanted was an honest apology for the way he was treated by some of the people on the list
2008-05-11 22:49 < Alkivar> some of them wont even begrudge the man that little token
2008-05-11 22:49 < The359> apologies for what?
2008-05-11 22:49 < The359> Existing?
2008-05-11 22:49 < Alkivar> all it took was me apologizing for acting like an ass on his AFDs
2008-05-11 22:50 < Alkivar> and poof i'm not on the list anymore
2008-05-11 22:50 < Lucifer_Cat> heh
2008-05-11 22:50 < Alkivar> i spent 2 years arguing he has to have an article... then i realized who the fuck really cares if he has an article or not
2008-05-11 22:50 < Lucifer_Cat> i find it funny and sad that people look for power and politics on projects like wikipedia
2008-05-11 22:51 < Alkivar> so i stopped opposing the deletions ... and surprise surprise brandt acted like a reasonable human... i came off the list
2008-05-11 22:52 * Lucifer_Cat goes back to watching Sabrina Lloyd
2008-05-11 22:52 < DoubleAW> what a weirdo
2008-05-11 22:53 < Lucifer_Cat> who me?
2008-05-11 23:00 < Lucifer_Cat> a lot of those pics on that list are really scary
2008-05-11 23:01 < Alkivar> a lot of wikipedians are scary looking
2008-05-11 23:01 < Alkivar> thems the facts
2008-05-11 23:03 < Lucifer_Cat> im almost tempted to start a "Jimbo Wales 101" along the lines of "Chuck Norris 101"
2008-05-11 23:09 < Lucifer_Cat> ok, choking by staring is outta Q... to starwars ish
2008-05-11 23:10 < Lucifer_Cat> "Reads out passages from Bible before delivering judgements."
2008-05-11 23:10 < Lucifer_Cat> nah, too tarantino