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2008-05-11 13:49 < Alkivar> http://osnews.com/story/19731/The-25-Year-Old-UNIX-Bug
2008-05-11 13:53 < cimon> "The Paris Codex (Codex Peresianus) contains prophecies for tuns and katuns (see Maya Calendar), as well as a Maya zodiac, and is thus, in both respects, akin to the Books of Chilam Balam. It was found in a trashcan in a Paris library. As a result, it is in very poor condition. It is currently held in the Bibliothèque Nationale (National Library), Paris, France."
2008-05-11 13:53 < cimon> How awesome is that. They find a genuine mayan codex in a trash can...
2008-05-11 13:54 < cimon> Makes one wonder what thoughts went through the persons mind, who threw it into the trash though, doesn't it?
2008-05-11 13:55 < quanticle> Alkivar: Wow. The fact that I can read and understand most of what you've linked proves my nerdiness.
2008-05-11 13:55 < quanticle> cimon: What material is the codex recorded on? Paper?
2008-05-11 13:56 < CharlotteWebb> hey cimon you might be interested in some afds, hold on i'll find
2008-05-11 13:56 < cimon> quanticle: I am betting it is on bark
2008-05-11 13:57 < eth01> boohoo
2008-05-11 13:57 < CharlotteWebb> ah yes are you familiar with "Salatut elämät"
2008-05-11 13:58 < cimon> quanticle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amatl
2008-05-11 13:58 < cimon> CharlotteWebb: unfortunately, yes.
2008-05-11 13:58 < CharlotteWebb> several of the characters are on AFD
2008-05-11 13:59 < cimon> how unsurprising...
2008-05-11 13:59 < CharlotteWebb> so you... don't feel strongly about it
2008-05-11 14:00 < cimon> On the finnish wikipedia, that series minor characters, walk-ons have been virulent pests on our version of AFD.
2008-05-11 14:00 < CharlotteWebb> how have the results been
2008-05-11 14:00 < cimon> I think they were merged into a list.
2008-05-11 14:01 < cimon> Minor characters of Salatut Elämät or something.
2008-05-11 14:02 < piksi> #wikipedia, the last place on earth i would imagine seeing anything related to salatut el�m�t
2008-05-11 14:02 < CharlotteWebb> alright, well i was thinking these AFDs could benefit from your input, as it seems to be a very anglophonic sample of users commenting on the afd
2008-05-11 14:03 < cimon> hmm
2008-05-11 14:03 < CharlotteWebb> ergo they probably don't know wtf they are talking about
2008-05-11 14:03 < CharlotteWebb> i was hoping also that it was a show you liked
2008-05-11 14:03 < cimon> I probably won't either, though I suppose I could find out...
2008-05-11 14:03 < CharlotteWebb> so that maybe you'd get all fired up about it
2008-05-11 14:03 < CharlotteWebb> c.c
2008-05-11 14:03 < cimon> ...by reading the finnish articles...
2008-05-11 14:04 < cimon> Which they can't.
2008-05-11 14:04 < cimon> CharlotteWebb: feel free to link me.
2008-05-11 14:04 < CharlotteWebb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2008_May_10#Seppo_Taalasmaa and others following it
2008-05-11 14:04 < CharlotteWebb> on the afd list
2008-05-11 14:05 < piksi> oh it's on the list already
2008-05-11 14:05 * piksi celebrates \o/
2008-05-11 14:06 < CharlotteWebb> seems like they're all over http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Deletion_sorting/Finland too
2008-05-11 14:06 < CharlotteWebb> anyway it's each afd is almost identical except for the article title
2008-05-11 14:09 < TheWeasel> shalom aleykhem
2008-05-11 14:09 < Leslie_S> hmmmm
2008-05-11 14:12 < Leslie_S> heh, i have emo hair today
2008-05-11 14:12 < Leslie_S> :D
2008-05-11 14:14 < TheWeasel> hope you see well through your one available eye :-D
2008-05-11 14:17 < eth01> "i have emo hair today"
2008-05-11 14:17 * eth01 looks at his watch
2008-05-11 14:20 < Messedrocker> hi gustafson
2008-05-11 14:20 < Mr_Gustafson> hey
2008-05-11 14:21 < vjohnleev> hello
2008-05-11 14:22 < CharlotteWebb> i shall return
2008-05-11 14:24 < vjohnleev> heello?
2008-05-11 14:26 < Leslie_S> lol, why is there a picture of a female ass in tight jeans on the back of this truck drivers atlas
2008-05-11 14:26 < vjohnleev> can anyone hear me?
2008-05-11 14:26 < Leslie_S> and lol, the ass looks *ALMOST* as nice as mine
2008-05-11 14:28 < Leslie_S> does spui even still come here?
2008-05-11 14:28 < Messedrocker> no
2008-05-11 14:28 < Aqwis> pics
2008-05-11 14:28 < Aqwis> err, sorry
2008-05-11 14:28 < Leslie_S> why? :(
2008-05-11 14:28 < Leslie_S> Aqwis lol.
2008-05-11 14:28 < Leslie_S> Aqwis i will in a little while
2008-05-11 14:28 < vjohnleev> <vjohnleev> hello
2008-05-11 14:28 < Aqwis> hello vjohnleev
2008-05-11 14:29 < vjohnleev> did you read <johnlee> hello or just hello
2008-05-11 14:29 < Aqwis> <vjohnleev> heello?
2008-05-11 14:29 < vjohnleev> im using irc for the first time
2008-05-11 14:29 < Aqwis> <vjohnleev> can anyone hear me?
2008-05-11 14:29 < Aqwis> earlier: <vjohnleev> hello
2008-05-11 14:29 < Leslie_S> [14:28] <vjohnleev> <vjohnleev> hello
2008-05-11 14:29 < vjohnleev> oh ok
2008-05-11 14:29 < Aqwis> welcome to IRC
2008-05-11 14:30 < vjohnleev> im wondering what wikipedias stance is on translating articles is
2008-05-11 14:30 < Leslie_S> dont even attempt it unless you are EXTREMELY good with both languages.
2008-05-11 14:30 < vjohnleev> i notice that wikipedia spanish has a quite lower number of articles
2008-05-11 14:30 < Leslie_S> and dont bother unless the article is really damn good
2008-05-11 14:31 < vjohnleev> alright, and if i do translate, how about the citations?
2008-05-11 14:32 < Leslie_S> check the style guides and stuff on the target wikipedi
2008-05-11 14:32 < Leslie_S> and make sure to go through it and make sure all the information in it is accurate and sourced in the first place.
2008-05-11 14:33 < Leslie_S> 'and when you do it, mention the fact that its a translation of whatever article and where it came from, in the edit summary of your first edit
2008-05-11 14:34 * Leslie_S continues to study the atlas.
2008-05-11 14:35 < vjohnleev> alright. thank you leslie_s
2008-05-11 14:35 * TheWeasel wants to have Vista TTS read a WP article to him and doesn't manage
2008-05-11 14:36 < TheWeasel> normal tts software reads the store
2008-05-11 14:37 < Leslie_S> i wonder if theres a way to get some superglue
2008-05-11 14:37 < Leslie_S> i broke an earring :(
2008-05-11 14:38 < Leslie_S> i mean, its worth like less than a dollar, but ....its the only set i brought with
2008-05-11 14:38 < Messedrocker> my boss sounds distinctly indian over the phone...
2008-05-11 14:38 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker ive never even met my boss, or even been in the same state as him
2008-05-11 14:38 < TheWeasel> it only reads the headline for some reason :-/
2008-05-11 14:40 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Is your boss Indian?
2008-05-11 14:41 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Sounds like my boss. He telecommutes out of Utah. I met him for the first time today. Really nice dude.
2008-05-11 14:41 < Messedrocker> no quanticle, he is korean
2008-05-11 14:41 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Huh?
2008-05-11 14:41 < quanticle> That's odd.
2008-05-11 14:41 < quanticle> I've never heard a Korean accent change to an Indian one over the phone.
2008-05-11 14:42 * TheWeasel guesses a Korean accent should be similar to a Chinese one sans the tones
2008-05-11 14:42 < bumm13> vjohnleev - part of the reason Spanish WP has less articles is due to them having forked a few years back over some inane reason (mere mention of *possibly* using ads on Wikipedia, which never happened)
2008-05-11 14:45 < bumm13> (they later rejoined)
2008-05-11 14:45 < quanticle> bumm13: Spanish wikipedia and English wikipedia were integrated at one point?
2008-05-11 14:45 < vjohnleev> yes now im curious?
2008-05-11 14:45 < bumm13> no, Wikipedia as a whole
2008-05-11 14:45 < vjohnleev> forked?
2008-05-11 14:45 < bumm13> as in, Wikimedia
2008-05-11 14:45 < vjohnleev> where did the other fork go?
2008-05-11 14:45 < bumm13> it was known for a while as Enciclopedia Libre
2008-05-11 14:45 < vjohnleev> are they under the same license?
2008-05-11 14:45 < bumm13> it remerged into WP, so it "doesn't exist" now
2008-05-11 14:45 < bumm13> it split off, then rejoined
2008-05-11 14:45 < vjohnleev> oh :(
2008-05-11 14:46 < bumm13> there is no separate fork now
2008-05-11 14:46 < vjohnleev> what a shame
2008-05-11 14:46 < quanticle> bumm13: Ah. Ok.
2008-05-11 14:46 < bumm13> why?
2008-05-11 14:46 < bumm13> it was dying as a fork, really
2008-05-11 14:46 < vjohnleev> becuase it did not achieve anything, except to split the community
2008-05-11 14:46 < bumm13> well, yeah
2008-05-11 14:46 < bumm13> (for a time)
2008-05-11 14:47 < bumm13> most of the editors just edited Encyc. Libre until it rejoined Wikimedia
2008-05-11 14:47 < bumm13> but it was utterly pointless
2008-05-11 14:48 < vjohnleev> which fork proposed ad support?
2008-05-11 14:49 < bumm13> nobody actually supported ad support
2008-05-11 14:49 < bumm13> that's the thing
2008-05-11 14:49 * quanticle wouldn't mind having ad support for Wikipedia.
2008-05-11 14:49 < bumm13> it was some very minor thing casually mentioned on one of the mailing lists that was never seriously considered
2008-05-11 14:49 < bumm13> the whole forking situation was massive overreaction to what was essentially a non-issue
2008-05-11 14:51 < Cyrius> yep
2008-05-11 14:51 < quanticle> Heh. Isn't it funny when that happens? Look at Pidgin for example. That project was forked because someone didn't like the fact that the input text box wasn't resizable. Rather than accept the patch and make the new auto-resize feature optional, the core developers said that, "IM is not for sending large amounts of text," and started a flamewar.
2008-05-11 14:52 < vjohnleev> sigh, both the beauty and a travesty of open source thinking is ability to fork
2008-05-11 14:52 < quanticle> This of course, led the other group to take the code and fork it, resulting in two version of pidgin.
2008-05-11 14:52 < quanticle> vjohnleev: I agree that its a great thing to be able to fork code. However, forking over a goddamned small thing like the size of an input box? That's just crazy.
2008-05-11 14:53 < geniice> quanticle have you tried to edit wikipedia in a 200px*200px input box? you have better belive that is worth forking mediaiwki over
2008-05-11 14:53 < Rinn> How do you pluralize "cyclops?"
2008-05-11 14:53 < vjohnleev> (exactly the bad part about forking)
2008-05-11 14:54 < Rinn> "Cyclopses?" Just "cyclops?"
2008-05-11 14:54 < quanticle> geniice: Heh. I just end up copying and pasting the wikitext into a *real* text editor.
2008-05-11 14:54 < vjohnleev> i believe that is the correct plural
2008-05-11 14:55 < quanticle> Rinn: Cyclopi?
2008-05-11 14:55 < geniice> quanticle how many text editors support mediawiki markup?
2008-05-11 14:55 < Cyrius> "mono-eyed Americans"
2008-05-11 14:55 < bumm13> +s to +i? doubtful
2008-05-11 14:55 < Kofiz> hmm my dictionary says..
2008-05-11 14:55 < quanticle> geniice: I don't know.
2008-05-11 14:55 < Kofiz> "cyclopes"
2008-05-11 14:56 < bumm13> it's actually "Cyclopes"
2008-05-11 14:56 < bumm13> yeah
2008-05-11 14:56 < Rinn> Weird.
2008-05-11 14:56 < geniice> Rinn look at the cat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Cyclopses
2008-05-11 14:56 < quanticle> geniice: I know that vim and emacs both support mediawiki markup./
2008-05-11 14:56 < Kofiz> like how octopus -> octopodes :p
2008-05-11 14:56 < geniice> quanticle really support it or a close apromimation?
2008-05-11 14:57 < Rinn> My dictionary says either "cyclopses," "cyclops," or "cyclopes" are correct.
2008-05-11 14:57 < bumm13> -us != -ops
2008-05-11 14:57 < vjohnleev> wicked
2008-05-11 14:57 < bumm13> Rinn: it's probably incorrect
2008-05-11 14:57 < geniice> "Fictional cyclopses" why are we suggesting there are a significant number of real ones
2008-05-11 14:57 < vjohnleev> space love dictionaries
2008-05-11 14:57 < quanticle> geniice: I don't know. I don't use syntax highlighting in Vim when working with wikitext.
2008-05-11 14:58 < quanticle> geniice: Let me try it out and I'll tell you.
2008-05-11 14:58 < Kofiz> CYCLOPS: (1) a freshwater animal (n CYCLOPS) (2) any of a race of giants in Greek mythology with a single eye in the middle of the forehead (n CYCLOPES)
2008-05-11 14:58 < Rinn> I'm just going to use "cyclopses." "Cyclopes" sounds silly and "cyclops" has the potential to confuse.
2008-05-11 14:59 < Kofiz> That is the Scrabble dictionary but that dictionary is weird-ass sometimes
2008-05-11 14:59 < Alkivar> http://lifeandhealth.guardian.co.uk/food/story/0,,2279357,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront <--- LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
2008-05-11 14:59 < Alkivar> they american grey squirrel ......is flying off the shelves faster than hunters can shoot them, with game butchers struggling to keep up with demand
2008-05-11 15:00 < Alkivar> go UK... take that american squirrels
2008-05-11 15:00 < Kofiz> I mean it accepts superpimp and pimpmobile
2008-05-11 15:00 < geniice> quanticle standard test is to see what it does with L'''uomo''
2008-05-11 15:00 < Alkivar> Southern fried squirrel is good. And tandoori style works. It is especially tasty fricass�ed with Cornish cream and walnuts. But the one everyone seems to like is the Cornish squirrel pasty.
2008-05-11 15:01 < Alkivar> thats just wrong
2008-05-11 15:01 < Leslie_S> blh
2008-05-11 15:01 < Alkivar> serving it with walnuts
2008-05-11 15:01 < geniice> A citation from 1665 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclopia#cite_note-6 not bad
2008-05-11 15:04 < Leslie_S> i should wear my hair in emo styles more often..
2008-05-11 15:06 < quanticle> geniice: The vim plugin works pretty well.
2008-05-11 15:10 < vjohnleev> anyone have any other notes or experience translating english wiki into another language
2008-05-11 15:11 < geniice> vjohnleev try say #wikipedia-de or #wikipedia-it
2008-05-11 15:12 < Alkivar> HOLY FUCKING EXPLOSION: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S52p2AMISFk
2008-05-11 15:13 < Ziggy_Sawdust> HOLY FUCKING SHIT
2008-05-11 15:13 * Messedrocker flings pills at Alkivar
2008-05-11 15:13 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ORIGINAL CONTENT
2008-05-11 15:13 < Ziggy_Sawdust> ON 4CHAN
2008-05-11 15:13 < Alkivar> Ziggy where?!?!?!
2008-05-11 15:14 < Messedrocker> wow, dutch really does sound like english
2008-05-11 15:16 < vjohnleev> both are germanic languages
2008-05-11 15:16 < vjohnleev> makes sense
2008-05-11 15:17 < Messedrocker> dutch sounds more like english than german sounds like english
2008-05-11 15:27 < quanticle> Alkivar: You know what's an even more impressive explosion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJVOUgCm5Jk&feature=related
2008-05-11 15:28 < quanticle> I swear its not a Rick Roll.
2008-05-11 15:29 < Leslie_S> wtf is rick roll?
2008-05-11 15:29 < Aqwis> do you live in a cave in Siberia?
2008-05-11 15:29 < Moro55> hi Leslie_S
2008-05-11 15:29 < quanticle> Leslie_S: How long have you been on the Internet?
2008-05-11 15:29 < geniice> Leslie_S ask wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickroll
2008-05-11 15:30 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Rape.
2008-05-11 15:30 < Aqwis> NN DELETE.
2008-05-11 15:30 * TheWeasel downloaded a screen reader and still doesn't manage to read whole websites
2008-05-11 15:30 * quanticle wonders if TheWeasel is blind
2008-05-11 15:31 < geniice> Aqwis 40 refs I think not
2008-05-11 15:31 < TheWeasel> no, just too lazy to read from the screen
2008-05-11 15:31 < TheWeasel> but it's reading page titles and not much more
2008-05-11 15:31 < quanticle> Hmm, is there any way to list wikipedia articles by length, i.e. word count?
2008-05-11 15:32 * quanticle requires a large amount of text to test an application
2008-05-11 15:32 < Messedrocker> quanticle, try anything written by Erik Möller
2008-05-11 15:32 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Will do.
2008-05-11 15:33 < vjohnleev> what does the app do?
2008-05-11 15:33 < geniice> quanticle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:LongPages
2008-05-11 15:33 * TheWeasel wants to TTS text from the dump
2008-05-11 15:33 < TheWeasel> doesn't seem to be possible
2008-05-11 15:33 < vjohnleev> tts?
2008-05-11 15:33 < geniice> Table of United States Core Based Statistical Areas ‎[270,961 bytes]
2008-05-11 15:34 < geniice> whooo hooo
2008-05-11 15:34 < TheWeasel> text-to-speech
2008-05-11 15:34 < vjohnleev> hm
2008-05-11 15:34 < vjohnleev> you would need a xml parser
2008-05-11 15:34 < vjohnleev> seperate text first
2008-05-11 15:34 < TheWeasel> I've got commercial software for that at home, just not on this machine
2008-05-11 15:34 < TheWeasel> I thought an open-source screen reader would do
2008-05-11 15:35 < geniice> List of Barack Obama presidential campaign endorsements ‎[240,026 bytes] fascinateing stuff
2008-05-11 15:36 < Kofiz> heh list of atheists
2008-05-11 15:36 < Leslie_S> LOL
2008-05-11 15:36 < Kofiz> at least it's well referenced
2008-05-11 15:36 < geniice> List of Samurai Shodown Characters ‎[185,055 bytes]
2008-05-11 15:38 < Kofiz> somehow I thought the current war in Iraq had a more detailed name than "Iraq War" >_>
2008-05-11 15:39 < Kofiz> [[List of Asian birds]] ok that one is ridiculous
2008-05-11 15:40 < Ziggy_Sawdust> Give a give a give a give a Garmin...
2008-05-11 15:40 < Ziggy_Sawdust> You know what?
2008-05-11 15:40 < Ziggy_Sawdust> I just thought of a really funny idea for a serial vandal
2008-05-11 15:40 < Ziggy_Sawdust> going to Asia-related articles and changing all the "l"s to "r"
2008-05-11 15:41 < Ziggy_Sawdust> like "China's naturar resourses"
2008-05-11 15:42 < Messedrocker> herro shitty wok take ya orda-pree
2008-05-11 15:44 < Kofiz> I still like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Francium&oldid=43869386
2008-05-11 15:45 < TheWeasel> Freedomium?
2008-05-11 15:45 < JordanC> Hyello there, are there any people in here (who aren't in #wikibooks) who contribute towards wikibooks? The channel's inactive :O
2008-05-11 15:45 * gwern ponders [[▬]]
2008-05-11 15:46 < Kofiz> I just realized the problem with my room, it's too humid D:
2008-05-11 15:47 < TheWeasel> oh and Lutetium = Libertium (Lu)
2008-05-11 15:48 < JordanC> I have a huge Periodic Table in my room
2008-05-11 15:48 < JordanC> Got it free from GSK
2008-05-11 15:49 < JordanC> As can anyone :O
2008-05-11 15:49 < Kofiz> yay free junk
2008-05-11 15:49 < TheWeasel> Hm, apparently not.
2008-05-11 15:49 < TheWeasel> :-/
2008-05-11 15:49 < aleksanteri> me wants one!
2008-05-11 15:52 < JordanC> aleksanteri: Are you in the UK?
2008-05-11 15:52 < aleksanteri> no
2008-05-11 15:52 < gwern> 'The expression a "run bearing" also derives from this style of bearing, since failure of lubrication will lead to heat build up due to friction in the bearing, eventually leading to the white metal liquifying and literally running out of the pillow block.' <-- I'm glad computer parts don't melt
2008-05-11 15:52 * TheWeasel seriously just wants the dump to be read aloud to him, is that so much to ask for?
2008-05-11 15:52 < TheWeasel> :-/
2008-05-11 15:53 < gwern> 'When I was 19, my father gave me an Oxford English Dictionary, the 1971 compact edition with the 1987 supplement. Citations for every English word since the eighth century were crammed into three bulky volumes of minuscule print. I hallucinated before the speckled onion-skin pages until I discovered that the dictionary came with a magnifying glass.' <-- ur doing it wrong
2008-05-11 15:53 < quanticle> gwern: Heh.
2008-05-11 15:53 < JordanC> They might get one for you
2008-05-11 15:53 < quanticle> gwern: Where do you get these delightful quotes from?
2008-05-11 15:53 < JordanC> Go on the GSK education website, then e-mail asking for a periodic table poster, citing your adress and postal code
2008-05-11 15:53 < gwern> quanticle: teh internets
2008-05-11 15:53 < JordanC> They'll get you one in 10 days :)
2008-05-11 15:54 < gwern> 'The future is here, and the immortal O.E.D., the one that lives in bound pages last published micrographically in 1991, is obsolete — at least according to the folks who publish it. As of now, Oxford University Press has no official plans to publish a new print edition of the Oxford English Dictionary.' http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/magazine/11wwln-medium-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
2008-05-11 15:54 < aleksanteri> maybe i really should :>
2008-05-11 15:54 < quanticle> gwern: Heh. I'm glad I have an online subscription to the OED...
2008-05-11 15:54 < aleksanteri> but i've got to get me that user page first :P
2008-05-11 15:55 < gwern> 'After all, as book-positive as I pretend to be, I haven’t consulted the 1971 compact or the 1987 supplement in years. When I need a definition, I use the dumb dictionary that came with my Mac operating system. (“Just this once,” I tell myself as I do with guilty Wikipedia look-ups.)'
2008-05-11 15:56 < gwern> quanticle: I'm pleased with my single volume micrograph version
2008-05-11 15:56 < gwern> I learned this the hard way. While blogging about an online video for The Times in November, I wanted to use the expression “rotflmao” — an abbreviation that I thought meant “extremely funny.” To be sure I had the letters right, I consulted the Urban Dictionary, an online wordbook to which users post definitions of slang. There I found this definition for “rotflmao”: “A chat-room abbreviation used mainly by imbeciles, usually in response t
2008-05-11 15:57 < aleksanteri> hmm.
2008-05-11 15:57 < aleksanteri> "history _______s itself" whut's that word.. ?
2008-05-11 15:57 * aleksanteri can't remember
2008-05-11 15:57 < quanticle> aleksanteri: You can't remember "repeats"?
2008-05-11 15:58 < aleksanteri> dang >.<
2008-05-11 15:58 < gwern> ]As all three patients — and hundreds of others — discovered once they pinpointed the source of the noises, they had become guinea pigs in an unfolding medical mystery. Their artificial hips are made of ceramic materials that were promoted as being much more durable than older models. But for reasons not yet fully understood, their hips started to squeak, raising questions about whether the noises herald more serious malfunctions.'
2008-05-11 15:58 < gwern> beware teh squeaks!
2008-05-11 15:58 < TheWeasel> >.< still no tts for the weasel
2008-05-11 15:58 < gwern> '“It can interrupt sex when my wife starts laughing,” said one man, who discussed the matter on the condition that he not be named.'
2008-05-11 15:59 < aleksanteri> quanticle, thanks
2008-05-11 15:59 < gwern> (uh *squeak* uh *squeak* oh *squeak squeak squeak*)
2008-05-11 15:59 < quanticle> gwern: Heh.
2008-05-11 16:04 < Messedrocker> \o/
2008-05-11 16:08 < TheWeasel> G.K. Chesterton is awesome in a WIG SELECSHUN - UR DOIN IT RONG way http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:G._K._Chesterton.jpg
2008-05-11 16:09 < Messedrocker> u r doin it rong
2008-05-11 16:09 < TheWeasel> so does Chesterton.
2008-05-11 16:11 < Messedrocker> franz kefta leaped graciously out of natasha's left ear
2008-05-11 16:12 * TheWeasel wakes up from a restless sleep and finds self transformed into an enormous vermin
2008-05-11 16:12 < TheWeasel> Oh wait, I already was... nevermind.
2008-05-11 16:13 < The359> no furries
2008-05-11 16:13 < Alkivar> i just got asked an interesting question...
2008-05-11 16:13 < Alkivar> as we know your avg lcd panel is made up of rgb subpixels
2008-05-11 16:13 < Alkivar> would it be possible to make an LCD using CMYK subpixels? so as to properly render CMYK on screen?
2008-05-11 16:13 < Ziggy_Sawdust> WACKY WAVING INFLATABLE ARM-FLAILING TUBE MAN
2008-05-11 16:13 < TheWeasel> That sounds like a Donovan song
2008-05-11 16:14 < FastLizard4> Ziggy_Sawdust: Don't do that
2008-05-11 16:15 * TheWeasel also thinks RGB underrepresents many colors
2008-05-11 16:15 < Ziggy_Sawdust> llol
2008-05-11 16:18 < Messedrocker> TheWeasel, like Zrutoate
2008-05-11 16:24 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Or Tangelo
2008-05-11 16:29 * TheWeasel prefers "light mucus" anyway
2008-05-11 16:31 < TheWeasel> But orange is a pretty good example
2008-05-11 16:31 < TheWeasel> there's a deficiency in the area of non-brown, non-white hues of orange
2008-05-11 16:32 < TheWeasel> like the EURO 1992 Dutch jersey
2008-05-11 16:33 < TheWeasel> and some of the later ones
2008-05-11 16:36 < gwern> Alkivar: I'm not sure you can. I understood that pixels are an additive method, but printing/cmyk was subtractive
2008-05-11 16:37 < Leslie_S> Alkivar just buy a printing press
2008-05-11 16:37 < White_Cat> Support victims of the cyclone in Myanmar (Burma).
2008-05-11 16:37 < White_Cat> You donate, and Google will donate up to $1 million to relief efforts.
2008-05-11 16:37 < White_Cat> http://66.249.93.147/
2008-05-11 16:37 < White_Cat> really
2008-05-11 16:38 < White_Cat> they want me to donate money to a country whoes name alone is an international dispute
2008-05-11 16:38 < White_Cat> let alone everything else
2008-05-11 16:38 < The359> donate money to relief efforts
2008-05-11 16:38 < White_Cat> in adition I know the money I donate will be used to influence politics
2008-05-11 16:38 < The359> not to the Myanmar government
2008-05-11 16:38 < Leslie_S> donate money to poor truck drivers like me instead
2008-05-11 16:39 < gwern> 'As my childhood friend Brad Lehrman said to me at her funeral: “She put the mensch in dementia.”'
2008-05-11 16:39 < White_Cat> The359 the Myanmar government will not allow relief workers to work
2008-05-11 16:39 < White_Cat> they say they will deliver
2008-05-11 16:39 < The359> So far
2008-05-11 16:39 < White_Cat> menaing they get all the credit
2008-05-11 16:39 < The359> But I doubt Google is still sending the money to Myanmar
2008-05-11 16:39 < The359> they're sending it to the Red Cross and such
2008-05-11 16:39 < White_Cat> yes
2008-05-11 16:39 < White_Cat> regardless
2008-05-11 16:39 < The359> how regardless?
2008-05-11 16:39 < gwern> irregardless!
2008-05-11 16:40 < White_Cat> even if what is going there happens to be a bag of rice it will have some retarded politicans face
2008-05-11 16:40 < White_Cat> its like those hillary/obama/mccain like faces
2008-05-11 16:40 < The359> ok, isn't that true of an relief effort?
2008-05-11 16:40 < The359> Anywhere in the world?
2008-05-11 16:40 < White_Cat> no
2008-05-11 16:41 < White_Cat> they dont make relief workers wait for visas
2008-05-11 16:41 < White_Cat> for crying out loud
2008-05-11 16:41 < White_Cat> they arent tourists
2008-05-11 16:41 < White_Cat> Overall I almost wish everyone in Myanmar dies
2008-05-11 16:41 < The359> ...
2008-05-11 16:41 < White_Cat> god will be doing them a favor
2008-05-11 16:42 < gwern> White_Cat: would make life a lot easier
2008-05-11 16:42 < gwern> one less evil regime to lose sleep over
2008-05-11 16:42 < White_Cat> it wouldnt be life then
2008-05-11 16:42 < White_Cat> death
2008-05-11 16:42 < gwern> White_Cat: my life, obviously
2008-05-11 16:42 < White_Cat> yours isnt a life dear
2008-05-11 16:42 < The359> well there goes that conversation
2008-05-11 16:42 * gwern thought it was obvious I didn't care about *them*
2008-05-11 16:42 < White_Cat> you are in suspended animation
2008-05-11 16:42 * quanticle shoots White_Cat
2008-05-11 16:42 < gwern> and it's not like it'll make much difference to the population of SE asia
2008-05-11 16:43 < quanticle> White_Cat: Its not your life now either :)
2008-05-11 16:43 * White_Cat deflects the bullet, matrix style
2008-05-11 16:43 < gwern> the way those yellow scum breed
2008-05-11 16:43 < Leslie_S> wtf...
2008-05-11 16:43 < White_Cat> gwern I have no problem with asians
2008-05-11 16:43 < quanticle> Its funny because China's growth rate is actually slowing.
2008-05-11 16:43 < quanticle> Thanks to one-child policy.
2008-05-11 16:43 < White_Cat> quanticle declining
2008-05-11 16:43 < Dingaantouwtje> FLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOODFLOOD
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2008-05-11 16:43 < gwern> I have no problem with the *clean* asians; those burmese scum are decidedly not clean
2008-05-11 16:43 < White_Cat> soon there will not be any more chinese
2008-05-11 16:43 < The359> you call that a flood?
2008-05-11 16:44 < White_Cat> gwern they are clean now
2008-05-11 16:44 < gwern> two lines = fail flood
2008-05-11 16:44 < White_Cat> they have been washed clean
2008-05-11 16:44 < gwern> The359: it was a flood of fail
2008-05-11 16:44 < quanticle> The359: Heh. And he didn't even stick around for me to ban him
2008-05-11 16:44 < gwern> White_Cat: only temporarily
2008-05-11 16:44 < quanticle> Phailflood
2008-05-11 16:44 < White_Cat> letss guess the body count
2008-05-11 16:44 < White_Cat> I say 200K
2008-05-11 16:44 < Leslie_S> Heh, yay for abusing free wifi
2008-05-11 16:44 < White_Cat> or .2M
2008-05-11 16:44 * Leslie_S is downloading illegal video games
2008-05-11 16:44 < quanticle> White_Cat: I don't think so. I say .1M max.
2008-05-11 16:44 * White_Cat would download illegal porn
2008-05-11 16:45 < White_Cat> I include after typhoon deaths
2008-05-11 16:45 * quanticle would visit [[Virgin Killer]]
2008-05-11 16:45 < White_Cat> like from disease
2008-05-11 16:45 < gwern> actually, the one child policy is brilliant. they managed to avoid being wrecked by the part of the growth chart where all the chinese are getting wealthy enough to breed like rabbits like they want to, but not wealthy enough to be neutered by greed and laziness (like in proper industrialized countries)
2008-05-11 16:45 < quanticle> White_Cat: Ah. Ok. In that case, I'd say .15M deaths. I still think that the death toll from this won't exceed the death toll from the tsunami.
2008-05-11 16:46 < White_Cat> tsunami?
2008-05-11 16:46 < White_Cat> 2004 one?
2008-05-11 16:46 < White_Cat> [[2004 tsunami]]
2008-05-11 16:46 < quanticle> White_Cat: The same.
2008-05-11 16:46 < White_Cat> 229,866.
2008-05-11 16:46 < White_Cat> which is the inflated number
2008-05-11 16:47 < quanticle> Yeah. I don't think the death toll from the hurricane and the attendant diseases won't push the death toll higher than that, since, last I saw, the estimates were about 60,000 dead from the effects of the cyclone itself.
2008-05-11 16:47 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1556_Shaanxi_earthquake
2008-05-11 16:47 * gwern wonders whether [[■]] and [[○]] should be put in the same categories
2008-05-11 16:47 < quanticle> CSD?
2008-05-11 16:48 < gwern> White_Cat: now there was a disaster
2008-05-11 16:48 * quanticle wonders why gwern is looking at articles for various Unicode characters
2008-05-11 16:48 < gwern> somehow, the chinese have all the best disasters no one has ever heard of
2008-05-11 16:48 < White_Cat> 9.1
2008-05-11 16:48 < quanticle> gwern: Like the Banqiao dam thing...
2008-05-11 16:49 < gwern> even before there were chinese, that area had so many awesome disasters. like the siberian supervolcano event
2008-05-11 16:50 * quanticle should thank Ceiling_Cat for putting up [[History of Minnesota]] for our sesquicentennial.
2008-05-11 16:51 < White_Cat> gwern chinese population was controled by earthquakes
2008-05-11 16:51 < gwern> and famines and disease...
2008-05-11 16:52 < gwern> china before the modern era was like the ultimate vindication of Malthus
2008-05-11 16:52 < quanticle> gwern: But China's population never crashed back to "original" levels. The crash never managed to wipe out more than a percentage of the population.
2008-05-11 16:52 < quanticle> Er, crashes, rather.
2008-05-11 16:53 < gwern> I read one economist who remarked that the Industrial revolution was the worst thing that ever happened to macroeconomics, because Malthus described pre-revolution economies perfectly and completely
2008-05-11 16:53 * TheWeasel is playing, can you believe it, Reversi.
2008-05-11 16:53 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Now, the question is, are you winning?
2008-05-11 16:53 < gwern> quanticle: sure, but remember: populations can still organically expand with efficiency improvements and expanded cultivation, say
2008-05-11 16:53 < TheWeasel> Looks promising.
2008-05-11 16:53 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano#Known_super_eruptions
2008-05-11 16:53 < quanticle> gwern: Oh, that's true, I suppose.
2008-05-11 16:54 < TheWeasel> HOW MANY STONES DID YOU GUESS?
2008-05-11 16:54 < quanticle> gwern: Malthusian growth did describe the Inca and Maya empires pretty well.
2008-05-11 16:54 < gwern> quanticle: and then there's the issue of 'subsistence-level' that people get hung up on
2008-05-11 16:54 < White_Cat> The Lake Toba eruption plunged the Earth into a volcanic winter, eradicating an estimated 60%[5][6][7][8][9] of the human population (although humans managed to survive, even in the vicinity of the volcano[10]), and was responsible for the formation of sulfuric acid in the atmosphere.
2008-05-11 16:54 < TheWeasel> the can you believe it reference was to Ballmer.
2008-05-11 16:55 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Huh?
2008-05-11 16:55 < quanticle> TheWeasel: What reference?
2008-05-11 16:55 < TheWeasel> the "can you believe it" thing
2008-05-11 16:55 < gwern> 'The volcano you refer to isn't actually a volcano - more a massive basaltic province - the Siberian Traps. Basalt is non-explosive, able to flow hundreds of km under the right conditions. What the Siberian Traps did was to load the atmosphere with CO2 and other noxious gases, pour huge volumes of molten lava onto the surface and is considered to have impacted upon the end of the Permian extinction.'
2008-05-11 16:55 < TheWeasel> from an old Win 1.0 ad
2008-05-11 16:55 < White_Cat> gwern
2008-05-11 16:56 < White_Cat> indonesia has been the source of disaster after another
2008-05-11 16:56 < TheWeasel> where Ballmer acts with that touching exuberance he's blessed with
2008-05-11 16:56 < White_Cat> the 2004 earth quake
2008-05-11 16:56 < quanticle> gwern: Just like the Yellowstone basalt trap.
2008-05-11 16:56 < White_Cat> the 73,500BC supervolcano
2008-05-11 16:57 < White_Cat> the 2006-2008 stalking by Jack Merridew
2008-05-11 16:57 < White_Cat> this place is the source of all our problems
2008-05-11 16:57 < White_Cat> I suggest the deletion of it
2008-05-11 16:57 < gwern> quanticle: yeah. I kind of hope to be off-planet if yellowstone ever goes in a serious way, or at least not on north america
2008-05-11 16:58 < quanticle> White_Cat: Aren't you also forgetting about Tambora and Krakatoa?
2008-05-11 16:58 < White_Cat> they can stay
2008-05-11 16:59 < Yamakiri> I think I'm using an IRC channel cloak, but can anyone see my IP?
2008-05-11 16:59 < quanticle> "According to a recent survey, a majority of Russians believes that acquiring wealth requires criminal activity and political connections. Only 20% believe that talent matters. " <-- Are you really surprised?
2008-05-11 16:59 < White_Cat> Yamakiri is n=chatzill@ip70-186-217-199.hr.hr.cox.net
2008-05-11 16:59 < Charitwo> you aren't cloak Yamakiri
2008-05-11 16:59 < Charitwo> cloaked*
2008-05-11 16:59 < Yamakiri> Darn...
2008-05-11 17:00 < quanticle> Yamakiri: Have you identified to services/
2008-05-11 17:00 < quanticle> ?
2008-05-11 17:00 < White_Cat> quanticle umm
2008-05-11 17:00 < Yamakiri> I think
2008-05-11 17:00 < gwern> he;s identified
2008-05-11 17:00 < White_Cat> Only 20% of russians are worth keeping
2008-05-11 17:00 < White_Cat> I suggest sending the rest to austrian cellars
2008-05-11 17:00 < quanticle> White_Cat: Well, I'd argue that only about 5% of Russians are worth keeping, and they're already in the West.
2008-05-11 17:01 < gwern> I say we get rid of all the males except the scientists and mathematicians, but save most of the babushkas
2008-05-11 17:01 < gwern> but get rid of the old women, because old russian women... ew
2008-05-11 17:01 < White_Cat> gwern keeping so many women happy would collapse any ecconomy
2008-05-11 17:01 < Krimpet> but didn't the babushka lady kill JFK? :x
2008-05-11 17:02 < quanticle> gwern: Not the babushkas, the dyevs, you mean, right?
2008-05-11 17:02 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory
2008-05-11 17:02 < White_Cat> zinteresting
2008-05-11 17:03 < TheWeasel> Lev Harvovich Osvaldov.
2008-05-11 17:03 < gwern> quanticle: what is dyev?
2008-05-11 17:06 < TheWeasel> John Kerry wears a pretty awesome coat on the photo with John Lennon. Seems to've been a cold May
2008-05-11 17:06 < quanticle> gwern: Young nubile Russian woman if I'm reading the eXile's context correctly.
2008-05-11 17:08 < TheWeasel> brb then
2008-05-11 17:14 < CharlotteWebb> there is a user systematically removing information about Kenny's death from every single south park episode article
2008-05-11 17:15 < CharlotteWebb> must be something arbcom didn't think to restrict :S
2008-05-11 17:16 < quanticle> CharlotteWebb: What do the edit summaries say?
2008-05-11 17:16 < CharlotteWebb> usually "rm not notable"
2008-05-11 17:16 < CharlotteWebb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fighting_for_Justice
2008-05-11 17:17 < Alkivar> just block the fucker for a week as disruptive
2008-05-11 17:17 < Alkivar> if that doesnt learn him, indef
2008-05-11 17:18 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-05-11 17:19 < quanticle> I'm inclined to go with Alkivar here.
2008-05-11 17:22 < Krimpet> oh my god, they blanked kenny's deaths!
2008-05-11 17:22 * quanticle wonders when TheWeasel will return
2008-05-11 17:25 * Charitwo weasels quanticle
2008-05-11 17:25 * Phoenixwi Charitwos quatnicle
2008-05-11 17:26 * aleksanteri Phoenixwis Charitwos quanticlely
2008-05-11 17:29 * Phoenixwi aleksenteris Charitwo quanticlely
2008-05-11 17:29 * quanticle Phoenixwis aleksanteri
2008-05-11 17:30 * aleksanteri <3 pointless statements :P
2008-05-11 17:30 < quanticle> "As I pointed out in an article published in 1988, gold-standard advocates think in terms of an institution whose continued operation, once adopted, would never again be doubted. But the problem is, if you can go on a gold standard, then you can go off a gold standard. And uncertainty about if and when the latter will occur can make the system itself a very destabilizing force."
2008-05-11 17:31 * quanticle brb
2008-05-11 18:07 < Messedrocker> hmm
2008-05-11 18:07 < Messedrocker> "Nintendo" is Japanese for "Leave luck to heaven"
2008-05-11 18:07 < prattle> is the Krumpet still banned?
2008-05-11 18:09 < The359> why?
2008-05-11 18:10 < prattle> well because i heard of that awful, awful injustice from The Outer Bounds Of No Civilization Which Shall Never Be Mentioned Here
2008-05-11 18:10 < The359> what?
2008-05-11 18:10 < prattle> and the people in the Troll Kingdom decried her banning
2008-05-11 18:10 < The359> yeah, start making sense
2008-05-11 18:11 < prattle> and repudiated the assertion that she was a secret agent for...the wikipedia review
2008-05-11 18:11 < quanticle> Why on earth would Krimpet be banned? She doesn't troll.
2008-05-11 18:11 < prattle> i didn't want to have to utter that horrible, horrible! name
2008-05-11 18:11 < prattle> but i couldn't circumlocute the concept well enuff...
2008-05-11 18:12 < quanticle> prattle: What are you prattling on about anyway?
2008-05-11 18:12 < The359> he did say Krumpet
2008-05-11 18:12 < The359> whoever the hell that is
2008-05-11 18:13 < prattle> Krumpet = Krimpet
2008-05-11 18:13 < The359> Krimpet is in the room right now
2008-05-11 18:13 < prattle> i believe the legendary Jon Awbrey coined that name
2008-05-11 18:13 < quanticle> prattle: Yeah, that's what I figured.
2008-05-11 18:14 < quanticle> prattle: Seriously, what's your point?
2008-05-11 18:15 < prattle> i just wanted to get a word about the Krimpet thing from inside the hive-mind itself
2008-05-11 18:15 < The359> as far as we're aware, there is no Krimpet "thing"
2008-05-11 18:15 < The359> nor is there a hive mind
2008-05-11 18:16 < quanticle> prattle: Krimpet is a vluable member of the community, and she's never been banned from the channel, as far as I know.
2008-05-11 18:16 < prattle> no not the channel!
2008-05-11 18:16 < prattle> the projekt!!
2008-05-11 18:17 < The359> Stop using vague references
2008-05-11 18:17 < The359> and spell out what you mean
2008-05-11 18:17 < quanticle> prattle: She's never been banned from Wikipedia to my knowledge either.
2008-05-11 18:17 < prattle> i would, but i would have to link to the Wikipedia Review and then I'd be accused of being a wordbomb or a brandt or some other evil figger
2008-05-11 18:18 < prattle> i can assure you i'm none of those and that one of your people has met my ranks
2008-05-11 18:18 < prattle> oh
2008-05-11 18:18 < prattle> one of the people in your ranks has met me
2008-05-11 18:18 < The359> you're still doing it
2008-05-11 18:18 < prattle> anyways, i'd love to participate in this circle-jerk of manbiguity but i have other things to do
2008-05-11 18:18 < prattle> so, tra-la for now
2008-05-11 18:18 < The359> Like troll?
2008-05-11 18:19 < prattle> ask that feline on the top wall about me!
2008-05-11 18:19 < prattle> oh, i was thinking "ogre" myself but troll...kinda works, not really though
2008-05-11 18:19 < The359> Yes, really.
2008-05-11 18:19 < prattle> whatever you say, mr. definite article :|
2008-05-11 18:20 < The359> wtf was that
2008-05-11 18:20 < quanticle> The359: I give that troll a 4/10
2008-05-11 18:20 < The359> yeah
2008-05-11 18:20 < quanticle> He was too vague to get us really pissed at him.
2008-05-11 18:20 < The359> are they a WRer?
2008-05-11 18:20 * Krimpet didn't even deign to get involved -_-
2008-05-11 18:20 < quanticle> The359: Supposedly.
2008-05-11 18:21 * quanticle chuckles to see that Krimpet was here all along.
2008-05-11 18:21 < Krimpet> looks like they were from the University of Delaware. maybe Raul would know? :p
2008-05-11 18:21 < The359> I guess they tactic is to put us down by having hit and run obscure accusations
2008-05-11 18:21 < The359> their
2008-05-11 18:21 < quanticle> Krimpet: Well, he did mention, "One of your ranks has met me."
2008-05-11 18:21 < Krimpet> they're probably referring to that run-in I had with the OMG SCIENCE crowd last week, I guess.
2008-05-11 18:22 < quanticle> Krimpet: Perhaps he is referring to Raul when he says this.
2008-05-11 18:22 < Krimpet> yeah, probably
2008-05-11 18:22 < The359> probably makes them feel superior to have us not know what the fuck they're talking about with their obscurity
2008-05-11 18:22 < quanticle> Krimpet: Also, note the reference to the "feline on the top wall". What is the "top wall" but the ceiling.
2008-05-11 18:23 < The359> yeah, I figured that was Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-11 18:23 < quanticle> The359: Hmmm. I wonder if that was Ceiling_Cat playing a joke on us?
2008-05-11 18:24 < Krimpet> that's the annoying way Awbrey talks. I bet he's just trying to copycat -_-
2008-05-11 18:24 < The359> I'm not sure what that whole thing was supposed to "achieve"
2008-05-11 18:24 < quanticle> Krimpet: Awbrey?
2008-05-11 18:25 < quanticle> The359: I don't know, but I did find it mildly entertaining.
2008-05-11 18:25 < The359> Except make us question Krimpet
2008-05-11 18:25 < Krimpet> Jon Awbrey, annoying sockpuppeteer
2008-05-11 18:25 < quanticle> Krimpet: Ok.
2008-05-11 18:25 < Krimpet> bosom buddies with Greg Kohs
2008-05-11 18:25 < The359> which, honestly, I've questioned Krimpet from the start ;)
2008-05-11 18:27 < The359> also, quanticle, I'm surprised you didn't wipe me out of the oil fields at Pearl
2008-05-11 18:27 < Krimpet> The359: after last week, it seems I've been labeled an anti-science POV pusher, a WR troll, and having a pitiful edit count. oh dear. :p
2008-05-11 18:27 < The359> pitiful edit count?
2008-05-11 18:27 < The359> someone really wants to compare your e-penis
2008-05-11 18:28 < Krimpet> yeah, one of the trolls was mocking my edit count - I took it as a sign I was winning the argument. ^^
2008-05-11 18:31 < bbot> I've got, maybe, 20 edits
2008-05-11 18:32 < Messedrocker> ive got, maybe, 8000 edits
2008-05-11 18:32 < bbot> classy
2008-05-11 18:32 < Krimpet> Messedrocker: about as many as me :)
2008-05-11 18:33 * The359 is nearing 14000
2008-05-11 18:33 * gwern lols. my e-penii are way bigger
2008-05-11 18:34 < gwern> I think I
2008-05-11 18:34 < The359> you have more than one?
2008-05-11 18:34 < gwern> 've got 50k on one account, and about 20k on this
2008-05-11 18:34 < gwern> wait, seems I'm at 32,518 now
2008-05-11 18:36 * gwern waggles them around
2008-05-11 18:43 < Phoenixwi> So liek teh Ceiling_Cat lieks teh ppl lots and he sez 'Oh hai I givez u me only kitteh and ifs u beleevs in him u wont evr diez no moar, k? - John 3:16 Ceiling_Cat your in the bible http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=John_3
2008-05-11 18:43 < gwern> Phoenixwi: he knows
2008-05-11 18:43 < Phoenixwi> lemme guess, he wrote it?
2008-05-11 18:45 < quanticle> The359: I play conservatively. I could have wiped you out, but that would have drained my backfield.
2008-05-11 18:45 < gwern> he inspired the writers
2008-05-11 18:45 < gwern> come on, don't you know your doctrine?
2008-05-11 19:01 * Messedrocker feels like doing a reprise of the soviet union map
2008-05-11 19:03 < Kofiz> how do i get word to not do this stupid virus scan thing every time i open it :/
2008-05-11 19:03 < The359> would be fun while we wait for Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-11 19:08 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-05-11 19:17 < Messedrocker> quanticle, the359, would you like to join me in the soviet union map?
2008-05-11 19:18 < Lucifer_Cat> sure
2008-05-11 19:18 < The359> sure
2008-05-11 19:18 < Messedrocker> you too lucifer
2008-05-11 19:18 < Lucifer_Cat> no
2008-05-11 19:18 * Lucifer_Cat is busy
2008-05-11 19:20 < Messedrocker> the359, quanticle, 2419203
2008-05-11 19:20 < Messedrocker> wait
2008-05-11 19:20 < Messedrocker> never mind
2008-05-11 19:20 < Messedrocker> nuts
2008-05-11 19:20 < Messedrocker> i screwed it up
2008-05-11 19:20 < The359> ok
2008-05-11 19:20 < Prattle> don't freak out this is critical
2008-05-11 19:21 < Prattle> there is an error in one of the articles
2008-05-11 19:21 < Prattle> but because I relinquished my account (alison can tell you more), i don't feel like editing from an IP
2008-05-11 19:21 * Lycurgus freaks out.
2008-05-11 19:21 < Prattle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummus
2008-05-11 19:21 < The359> Prattle, don't continue to troll
2008-05-11 19:21 < Prattle> no i'm not kidding the359
2008-05-11 19:21 < Messedrocker> the359, jeez
2008-05-11 19:21 * The359 isn't either
2008-05-11 19:21 < quanticle> prattle: http://xkcd.com/386/
2008-05-11 19:22 < Prattle> in the description there, it says حمٌص
2008-05-11 19:22 < Prattle> this is blatantly wrong in arabic
2008-05-11 19:22 < Prattle> it should be حمّص
2008-05-11 19:23 < Prattle> quanticle, quanticle, i barely come here; how could that apply to me :(
2008-05-11 19:23 < Prattle> anyway, anyone who know a lick or two about arabic knows that this is right
2008-05-11 19:23 < Lycurgus> maybe we jumped the gun
2008-05-11 19:23 < Prattle> if one of you fine gents could make that correction i would be greatly pleased
2008-05-11 19:23 < quanticle> Prattle: You can't fix it yourself?
2008-05-11 19:23 < Lycurgus> but it's doubtful anyone here speaks or reads arabic
2008-05-11 19:24 < Prattle> [19:22:14] <quanticle> Prattle: You can't fix it yourself? <-- no, i don't want to, i don't want to contribute my contributions to Wikipedia anymore
2008-05-11 19:24 < The359> nut you're here
2008-05-11 19:24 < The359> contributing now
2008-05-11 19:24 < Lycurgus> but there should be an arablic wikipedia irc channel
2008-05-11 19:24 < The359> by proxy
2008-05-11 19:24 < The359> nut -> but
2008-05-11 19:24 < quanticle> Prattle: Then its a little bit unfair to ask others to contribute on your behalf, no?
2008-05-11 19:24 < Prattle> (i had an account since about 2003, but it's since been salted by alison)
2008-05-11 19:25 < Lycurgus> (last time I said that was wrong, lemme check)