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2008-05-11 11:42 < eth01> (sarcasm)
2008-05-11 11:42 < quanticle> eth01: What does that have to do with anything?
2008-05-11 11:42 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-05-11 11:42 < Lucifer_Cat> its </sarcasm>
2008-05-11 11:43 < eth01> i know it is.
2008-05-11 11:43 < quanticle> "Researchers have found H. pylori in the saliva of some infected people, so the bacteria may also spread through mouth-to-mouth contact such as kissing." <-- Kissing people leaves you at risk for stomach ulcers? Well, another advantage of being a nerd, I guess.
2008-05-11 11:43 < eth01> quanticle: what i meant to say is.. i have a MBChB, MRCGP et cetera - so i'm quite aware of what it is.
2008-05-11 11:43 < Tejgad> Bonjour le chan :)
2008-05-11 11:44 < Lucifer_Cat> mibbit...
2008-05-11 11:44 < Tejgad> Oh, I'm sorry...
2008-05-11 11:44 < quanticle> Tejgad: Hola
2008-05-11 11:44 < Lucifer_Cat> Tejgad: Holler!
2008-05-11 11:44 < Tejgad> I wanted ton join #wikipedia-fr :D
2008-05-11 11:44 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Ebonics isn't a language.
2008-05-11 11:44 < Tejgad> -n
2008-05-11 11:44 < Lucifer_Cat> hehe
2008-05-11 11:45 < eth01> quanticle: they said something like that about Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome
2008-05-11 11:45 * Lucifer_Cat is just back from an assignment at Elbonia
2008-05-11 11:45 < Tejgad> Good bye ;)
2008-05-11 11:46 < Lucifer_Cat> sure. lets pick out every misjudgement researchers ever made. that should really help with helping people part.
2008-05-11 11:46 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Elbonia?
2008-05-11 11:47 < Lucifer_Cat> not trained in the way of the wally are you? hmmm
2008-05-11 11:47 < eth01> you really do have an attitude problem Lucifer_Cat, and I haven't known you for very long - but already, you're quite irritating.
2008-05-11 11:47 < quanticle> Graborvakriskfur: Long enough nickname?
2008-05-11 11:47 * eth01 doesn't get irritated much really..
2008-05-11 11:47 < Lucifer_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbonia
2008-05-11 11:48 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I'm familiar with Elbonia. Did you wipe the mud off your boots?
2008-05-11 11:48 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: honestly, do i have an attitude problem?
2008-05-11 11:48 < eth01> personality trait in all fairness.
2008-05-11 11:48 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: i had the twerps over at kneebonia do it at a stopover there.
2008-05-11 11:48 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: No more than the rest of the Internet.
2008-05-11 11:49 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: being called a "jerk" and "asshole" and having sarcasm measured in miliSats are not new to me.
2008-05-11 11:49 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I'm *shocked*. How *dare* you take advantage of 3rd world labor like that </sarcasm> :)
2008-05-11 11:49 < eth01> Lucifier_Cat: neither are offensive?
2008-05-11 11:49 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Wait, sarcasm can be measured?
2008-05-11 11:49 < quanticle> ORLY
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> though i would say eth01, that you do beat me in the first 2 categories. you suck at sarcasm though.
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: only relatively
2008-05-11 11:50 < eth01> that was relative sarcasm to the context, Lucifer_Cat ...
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> sriram: its official, ive nearly exhausted all stumble videos
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> sriram. life is busy.
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> Satyam: lol
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> advantages of being a grad student i guess
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> sriram: totally
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> Sent at 10:46 AM on Sunday
2008-05-11 11:50 < Lucifer_Cat> oops... real names
2008-05-11 11:51 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Meh. They're generic enough to be nonidentifying.
2008-05-11 11:51 < Lucifer_Cat> but what the hell
2008-05-11 11:51 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: Satyam is by no mean generic. K.
2008-05-11 11:51 * eth01 has his name on show. and really isn't that bothered..
2008-05-11 11:51 < eth01> lulcat: how many more combinations can you create?
2008-05-11 11:52 < Lucifer_Cat> but i like how hes stumbled all the vids...and says life is busy
2008-05-11 11:52 < eth01> ah, i gave him attention. he'll do it more now.
2008-05-11 11:52 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Its generic enough in India, isn't it?
2008-05-11 11:53 < eth01> Satyam sounds like some indian restaurant in the UK lol
2008-05-11 11:53 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: south, yes, unfortunately. and my last name is south-sounding... so people assume im from down south
2008-05-11 11:53 < eth01> as does sriram ;)
2008-05-11 11:53 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: indeed would.
2008-05-11 11:53 < eth01> woo, we agreed on something :)
2008-05-11 11:53 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: to top it off, i was in a south-managed convent all life long, so i had picked up an accent too
2008-05-11 11:54 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: we do agree on the fact that im a jerk, and that im better at sarcasm.
2008-05-11 11:54 < eth01> Lucifer_Cat: should i go and find one with that exact name, which i'm pretty sure does actually exist and photograph it just for you? :P haha
2008-05-11 11:54 < Lucifer_Cat> what we dont agree on is whether you are more of a jerk ;)
2008-05-11 11:54 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: sure. i can tell my friends it was named after me.
2008-05-11 11:54 < eth01> maybe not, i'm busy..
2008-05-11 11:55 < Lucifer_Cat> just like one of indias top 5 IT companies.
2008-05-11 11:55 < eth01> s/it companies/call centres
2008-05-11 11:55 < quanticle> eth01: Is there a difference? ;)
2008-05-11 11:56 < Lucifer_Cat> IT companies = better paying call centres where you dont have to put up a false accent.
2008-05-11 11:56 < eth01> "welcome to dell tech-ni-cal supoourt, my name is abdullah patel. how may i hulp you? sir, i can not hear you? hello, dell technical support speaking?"
2008-05-11 11:56 < Lucifer_Cat> also, they wont try to sell you credit cards every time you call.
2008-05-11 11:56 < eth01> quite, quanitcle ;)
2008-05-11 11:56 < eth01> quanticle, even
2008-05-11 11:57 < Lucifer_Cat> abdullah patel. thats one improbable combo.
2008-05-11 11:57 < eth01> of course.
2008-05-11 11:57 < eth01> retarded like the religion.
2008-05-11 11:57 < Lucifer_Cat> some muslims /do/ have a patel last name... b
2008-05-11 11:57 < Lucifer_Cat> but they dont have names like abdullah typically
2008-05-11 11:58 < Lucifer_Cat> when will MuzzledRocker be back?
2008-05-11 11:58 < eth01> fortunately for me, i now have my own office at work. no more sharing free time with Dr Patels!
2008-05-11 11:58 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, im better off. never had to do that.
2008-05-11 11:58 < Thehelpfulone2> quanticle: you there?
2008-05-11 11:59 < eth01> although, i imagine when i leave. it'll be given to one. heh.
2008-05-11 11:59 < Thehelpfulone2> teh quanticle cabal?
2008-05-11 11:59 < eth01> no more "Dr T.B.M", just "Mr Patel, Cardiology Surgeon"
2008-05-11 12:00 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: you gonna get like 46-50 armies next round.
2008-05-11 12:00 < Lucifer_Cat> sorry, 51-55
2008-05-11 12:00 < Lucifer_Cat> theres a quanticle cabal?
2008-05-11 12:01 < Thehelpfulone2> Lucifer_Cat: no lol
2008-05-11 12:01 < Lucifer_Cat> Thehelpfulone2Three4Five: then?
2008-05-11 12:01 < Thehelpfulone2> Lucifer_Cat: nm
2008-05-11 12:01 < Taza> Jesus Christ.
2008-05-11 12:01 < quanticle> Thehelpfulone2: Cabal? I'd hardly consider two nicknames to be cabal.
2008-05-11 12:02 < Taza> What's up with Wikipedia and the anti-science movement in science articles?
2008-05-11 12:02 < Lucifer_Cat> whats this cabal talking about
2008-05-11 12:02 < Lucifer_Cat> ok Taza .. what exactly
2008-05-11 12:02 < Taza> It seems like most of the people editing wikipedia science articles don't have a clue about science.
2008-05-11 12:02 < Thehelpfulone2> forget about the cabal talk ! :P
2008-05-11 12:02 < Taza> Lucifer_Cat: Well I've been in an argument over Age of the Universe.
2008-05-11 12:02 < Lucifer_Cat> ok talk to quanticle about it.
2008-05-11 12:02 < eth01> Taza: i couldn't agree.
2008-05-11 12:03 < eth01> oh, i could actually.
2008-05-11 12:03 < Taza> Where everyone is pushing forward a certain viewpoint as a fact because "there is a consensus" there is no proof over. ;_;
2008-05-11 12:03 < eth01> it's disgraceful, to be honest.
2008-05-11 12:03 < quanticle> Taza: What article, specifically?
2008-05-11 12:03 < Leslie_S> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urination#Urination_techniques
2008-05-11 12:03 < Leslie_S> what the fuck?
2008-05-11 12:03 < Taza> quanticle: Age of the Universe
2008-05-11 12:03 < Taza> I'm attempting to stop the article into filtering into *other* articles.
2008-05-11 12:04 < Messedrocker> 15 billion years or so. Next question?
2008-05-11 12:04 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: please. its still morning in this part of the world
2008-05-11 12:04 < eth01> Leslie_S: haha. how convienent. that's wrong too. sigh.
2008-05-11 12:04 < Krimpet> "Some females prefer to not sit all the way down on a toilet seat, to avoid contact with the toilet. This technique is known as hovering or squatting. These alternative choices are sometimes made because of perceived or actual unsanitary conditions. However, the resultant loss of accuracy often increases the presence of urine on the toilet seat and leads to a positive feedback loop. This approach could even be considered an example of the trag
2008-05-11 12:04 < Krimpet> edy of the commons."
2008-05-11 12:04 < Krimpet> bah, what cowards. <_<
2008-05-11 12:04 < eth01> "Extant foreskin (acropostheon) may block the direct path of the outgoing stream by causing turbulence" haha.
2008-05-11 12:04 * eth01 sighs
2008-05-11 12:04 < quanticle> Krimpet: Its not a tragedy of the commons. Its a positive feedback loop.
2008-05-11 12:04 < Lucifer_Cat> grr Krimpet ... TMI Too Early In the Morning, Too Early In The Week
2008-05-11 12:04 < eth01> turbulence, umm, no? hypertension.
2008-05-11 12:05 < Leslie_S> Lucifer_Cat im not allowed to be here in the morning?
2008-05-11 12:05 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: lol no
2008-05-11 12:05 < Messedrocker> do people actually like get hepatitis from sitting on toilet seats?
2008-05-11 12:05 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: 1. it was more of a joke. and 2. it was at the urination techniques
2008-05-11 12:05 < quanticle> Oh good lord.
2008-05-11 12:05 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: no.
2008-05-11 12:05 < Taza> Messedrocker: Age of the Universe is one of those things we don't have half enough proof about.
2008-05-11 12:05 < eth01> Messedrocker: not really.
2008-05-11 12:06 < Taza> So I see idiots including it in *religion* articles.
2008-05-11 12:06 * quanticle looked at the discussion page for [[Age of the Universe]]
2008-05-11 12:06 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: according to House MD :P
2008-05-11 12:06 * eth01 slaps Lucifer_Cat :)
2008-05-11 12:06 < Messedrocker> last i checked, no infection-prone orifices actually touch the toilet seat
2008-05-11 12:06 * Lucifer_Cat dunks eth01 in some salt brine and throws Windows ME at him.
2008-05-11 12:07 < Taza> And the best example? Black dwarf. Which at a time went "there are no black dwarves because the age of the universe is too young which is in part determined by the age of the oldest white dwarves". Nevermind that a black dwarf would be dark matter.
2008-05-11 12:07 < Taza> Jesus. Science, logic, proof, all these things have no place in Wikipedia. Science by the popularity contest.
2008-05-11 12:07 < Lucifer_Cat> unwarranted violence != cool | appreciated
2008-05-11 12:07 < quanticle> Taza: Well. No. A black dwarf would not be dark matter, since it would be composed of baryons, whereas there's strong evidence that dark matter is nonbaryonic.
2008-05-11 12:07 < Taza> Stabbite
2008-05-11 12:08 < Krimpet> a black dwarf, like [[Beetlejuice (entertainer)]]? :o
2008-05-11 12:08 < Taza> quanticle: Dark matter as in matter we cannot see.
2008-05-11 12:08 < eth01> Messedrocker: it's possible to get Calymmatobacterium granulomats
2008-05-11 12:08 < Leslie_S> Lucifer_Cat oh. heh.
2008-05-11 12:08 < eth01> Calymmatobacterium granulomatis, even
2008-05-11 12:08 < Lucifer_Cat> This article focuses on modern scientific research on the age of the universe. For religious beliefs about the age of the universe, see creation myth.
2008-05-11 12:08 < Lucifer_Cat> XD
2008-05-11 12:08 < Taza> The real problem?
2008-05-11 12:08 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-05-11 12:08 < Taza> I've seen references into that article in *XENU*
2008-05-11 12:08 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: you are ofcourse always welcome.
2008-05-11 12:08 < Messedrocker> HAIL XENU!
2008-05-11 12:09 < eth01> Treponema pallidum, is another...
2008-05-11 12:09 < quanticle> Taza: We could see black dwarves. They'd reflect light and interact with other matter in predictable ways. Dark matter does not interact with regular matter, except through gravity.
2008-05-11 12:09 < Lucifer_Cat> how did you end up in that article btw? looking for golden showers?
2008-05-11 12:09 < Taza> quanticle: I have an older definition then
2008-05-11 12:09 < Krimpet> ooh, we've got a lovely illustration of that granulomatis. <_<
2008-05-11 12:09 < Leslie_S> Lucifer_Cat wouldnt you like to know
2008-05-11 12:09 < eth01> Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, hospital prone.
2008-05-11 12:09 < quanticle> Taza: Lets put it this way. You can crash a space ship into a black dwarf. You can't crash a spaceship into dark matter.
2008-05-11 12:09 < eth01> (MRSA)
2008-05-11 12:09 < Lucifer_Cat> actually, i wouldnt >_<
2008-05-11 12:10 < quanticle> Yeah. MRSA is bad stuff.
2008-05-11 12:10 < Taza> quanticle: Old definition of dark matter was merely the matter we couldn't see except for gravitational anomalies
2008-05-11 12:10 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: move on senate
2008-05-11 12:10 < Lucifer_Cat> oh
2008-05-11 12:10 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: move on Senate
2008-05-11 12:10 < eth01> MRSA is treatable, not so bad.
2008-05-11 12:10 < Taza> quanticle: In fact, that definition is also in the "dark matter" article
2008-05-11 12:11 < quanticle> Taza: Well, that's just it. We would be able to see a black dwarf, since it would reflect light.
2008-05-11 12:11 < Leslie_S> Lucifer_Cat THEN IM GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW
2008-05-11 12:11 < Taza> Not as of now we couldn't
2008-05-11 12:11 < eth01> but it does delay patient recovery et cetera
2008-05-11 12:11 < Messedrocker> SUICIDE MACHINES!
2008-05-11 12:11 < eth01> which of course, is not ideal in some cases. especially if they only have X days/weeks/months to live.
2008-05-11 12:11 < quanticle> Taza: The difficult thing about dark matter is that no one knows precisely what it is, only that there's enough of it to affect the spin of galaxies.
2008-05-11 12:12 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: GO AHEAD I DARE YOU. I DARE YOU, I DOUBLE DARE YOU MUTHAFUCKA, SAY WHAT ONE MORE GODDAMN TIME.
2008-05-11 12:12 < Taza> quanticle: And some of this is stuff that is just normal matter that happens to be dark. "dark matter" may have been redefined but some is out there.
2008-05-11 12:12 < quanticle> Taza: So it could be anything from black dwarves (its a possibility) to clouds of non-baryonic particles left over from the creation of the universe.
2008-05-11 12:12 < Lucifer_Cat> oops, wrong rant
2008-05-11 12:12 < Taza> quanticle: Now that's something we're not disagreeing upon
2008-05-11 12:12 * eth01 gets some popcorn
2008-05-11 12:12 < quanticle> Taza: Indeed.
2008-05-11 12:12 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: move on Senate
2008-05-11 12:13 < Leslie_S> Urine of persons who are ill, or regularly take medication, should generally not be consumed. In special cases (e.g. chronic illness of the partner), a medical doctor should be consulted to clarify whether the urine of the chronically ill or medicated person may be consumed without endangering one's health, or not.[citation needed]
2008-05-11 12:13 < eth01> "sit back, relax and enjoy and oh please remember to switch your mobiles off :)"
2008-05-11 12:13 < Leslie_S> do people seriously discuss this with their doctor?
2008-05-11 12:13 < eth01> Leslie_S: aye.
2008-05-11 12:13 < Taza> But I see "just because we haven't seen it it cannot exist"
2008-05-11 12:13 < Taza> Leslie_S: Drinking urine is a semi-common fetish
2008-05-11 12:13 < quanticle> Taza: Now that's obviously wrong.
2008-05-11 12:13 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: who says there arent any pervy docs
2008-05-11 12:13 < Taza> quanticle: Yeah.
2008-05-11 12:13 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S, they also get hepatitis innoculation prior to engaging in coprophagy
2008-05-11 12:13 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-05-11 12:13 < eth01> i've been asked if it's safe to "swallow" semen before.
2008-05-11 12:14 < Leslie_S> im not saying theirs anything wrong with drinking piss. but....talking to a doctor about it? :o sounds embarrasing
2008-05-11 12:14 < Lucifer_Cat> is it?
2008-05-11 12:14 < Taza> But Wikipedia isn't really a good place for science.
2008-05-11 12:14 < eth01> vaginal fluids, was another.
2008-05-11 12:14 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: and what were the answers?
2008-05-11 12:14 < quanticle> Taza: The reason I don't get involved with physics is that I don't know enough terminology to back up my statements.
2008-05-11 12:14 < Taza> Leslie_S: You can get high drinking urine if the person has eaten some fly agaric
2008-05-11 12:14 < quanticle> Er, physics on Wikipedia, rather.
2008-05-11 12:14 < eth01> it's fine. it's healthy too. it contains a lot of protein.
2008-05-11 12:14 < Leslie_S> oh well, i went with my roommate once to walmart so he could get some lube. here i am, a gay appearing guy and another guy, with a guy buying lube. and my roommate asks someone where it is :/
2008-05-11 12:14 < Leslie_S> i started laughing
2008-05-11 12:14 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-05-11 12:15 < eth01> technically, you're recycling it so-to-speak.
2008-05-11 12:15 < Messedrocker> Ah yes, Apple's corporate offices, just right off the exit on i5
2008-05-11 12:15 < Taza> quanticle: Well, don't get me started on the "time" and "curved space" arguments.
2008-05-11 12:15 < Taza> If I began those on Wikipedia I'd get shouted down so fast for actually voicing something that is scientific.
2008-05-11 12:15 < quanticle> Taza: Not to mention wormholes.
2008-05-11 12:16 < Messedrocker> TiMe Is A HuMaN CONsTrUcT
2008-05-11 12:16 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: move on Senate
2008-05-11 12:16 < eth01> Lucifier_Cat: above.
2008-05-11 12:16 < Taza> Time doesn't exist.
2008-05-11 12:16 < eth01> read the above, even
2008-05-11 12:16 < Taza> We don't have ANY proof of time.
2008-05-11 12:16 < Lucifer_Cat> SoIsCamelCase
2008-05-11 12:16 < Leslie_S> Taza neato.
2008-05-11 12:16 < Leslie_S> Taza ive never drank someones urine before though.
2008-05-11 12:16 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: read it. now i can go down on my gf. and get her to go down on me more importantly.
2008-05-11 12:16 < quanticle> Taza: Yes we do. Entropy.
2008-05-11 12:17 < Leslie_S> and for the record, the lube was not used in a way that involved me.
2008-05-11 12:17 < Taza> quanticle: Which isn't even remotedly proof of time.
2008-05-11 12:17 < eth01> Lucifer_Cat: it's the revolting taste, which is off-putting.
2008-05-11 12:17 < quanticle> Taza: Entropy is time dependent.
2008-05-11 12:17 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: awww :(
2008-05-11 12:17 < Leslie_S> Lucifer_Cat my roommates boyfriend is also my roommate, so ...
2008-05-11 12:17 < Taza> No, entropy is change-dependant
2008-05-11 12:17 < eth01> Leslie_S: wouldn't you be apprehensive about that?
2008-05-11 12:17 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: also, does it taste like what u've eaten?
2008-05-11 12:17 < JoeVector> Hey guys!
2008-05-11 12:17 < eth01> Lucifer_Cat: how do you mean?
2008-05-11 12:17 < Taza> Lucifer_Cat: Semen's change is greatly changed by fruit juice and some acids.
2008-05-11 12:18 < Lucifer_Cat> hey vector
2008-05-11 12:18 < Leslie_S> semen is yummy
2008-05-11 12:18 < Taza> s/change/taste/
2008-05-11 12:18 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: what Taza said.
2008-05-11 12:18 < JoeVector> I'm taking a plane today and...
2008-05-11 12:18 < JoeVector> Is it okay to take a pen with me?
2008-05-11 12:18 < Taza> Oh hi JoeVector. Welcome to #wikipedia
2008-05-11 12:18 < Krimpet> revolting taste? different strokes for different folks, I suppose. :)
2008-05-11 12:18 < eth01> Lucifer_Cat: eh?
2008-05-11 12:18 < Messedrocker> Krimpet, now when you say different STROKES...
2008-05-11 12:18 < Leslie_S> JoeVector youre better off stealing one from the airport after you get past security. i dont think they would say anything, but you cant beat free pens.
2008-05-11 12:18 < eth01> it's revolting if you live have a crap diet.
2008-05-11 12:19 < JoeVector> Uhm... but we don't have free stuff in third world countries. :o
2008-05-11 12:19 < eth01> live/have *
2008-05-11 12:19 < Taza> Leslie_S: Now, now. You're free to detail how to steal a pen but not advocate it.
2008-05-11 12:19 < Messedrocker> krimpet: do ya get it?
2008-05-11 12:19 < Krimpet> very punny, Messedrocker :p
2008-05-11 12:19 < Leslie_S> Taza sorry.
2008-05-11 12:20 < JoeVector> Taza: isn't detailing worse than advocating?
2008-05-11 12:20 < Leslie_S> heh, i accidentally stole a pen from the government once
2008-05-11 12:20 < Taza> quanticle: Entropy isn't dependant on time as time actually existing. Merely that the present changes. I mean time doesn't exist as a dimension.
2008-05-11 12:20 < Leslie_S> it said SECRETARY OF STATE on it and had the michigan secretary of state logo on it. pretty cool.
2008-05-11 12:20 < Leslie_S> but then someone stole it from me. what a jerk
2008-05-11 12:20 < Taza> JoeVector: Not on Wikipedia.
2008-05-11 12:21 < eth01> Leslie_S: steal it back.
2008-05-11 12:22 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: why did you go there for?
2008-05-11 12:22 < quanticle> Taza: Well, I guess it depends on what you mean as far as dimension. Yes, I don't think time exists as a dimension in the physical sense, i.e. you can't move back and forth in time. However, time is necessary to describe the motion of a particle, so in that sense it exists as a dimension.
2008-05-11 12:22 < Taza> quanticle: Or change is required, which includes redefining time as the ability for our dimension to change.
2008-05-11 12:22 * eth01 looks at Krimpet
2008-05-11 12:22 * Messedrocker suddenly finds he has 30 lives and 3 continues
2008-05-11 12:22 < JoeVector> Mmm... okay, the TSA website doesn't mention pens at all.
2008-05-11 12:23 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: MOVE ON SENATE DAMNIT. people being wrong on the internet arent going anywhere
2008-05-11 12:23 < Taza> quanticle: Now try explaining that to your average wikipedian.
2008-05-11 12:23 < Krimpet> someone wanted me to change the status back to Up. :)
2008-05-11 12:23 < JoeVector> Well, bye-bye.
2008-05-11 12:23 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: sounds like Contra
2008-05-11 12:23 < Taza> quanticle: What you get is "huh??????? no einstein said your wrong now imma get a admin to ban u"
2008-05-11 12:23 < Messedrocker> Lucifer_Cat, up up down down left right left right b a
2008-05-11 12:24 < Taza> And most of the time they can find an admin stupid enough.
2008-05-11 12:24 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: 30 lives and 3 continues
2008-05-11 12:24 < Taza> Krimpet: You forgot Select.
2008-05-11 12:24 < eth01> right
2008-05-11 12:24 < Krimpet> hmm, Start you mean
2008-05-11 12:24 * Lucifer_Cat never had a gaming console of his own.
2008-05-11 12:24 < Taza> No, Select.
2008-05-11 12:24 < Messedrocker> Taza: Select is irrelevant to the Konami Code
2008-05-11 12:24 < Krimpet> it's Start. :p
2008-05-11 12:24 < Messedrocker> Taza: "Select" is so you can switch to the co-op mode. You can do it before or after entering the Code
2008-05-11 12:24 < Taza> No, it has no Start. :P
2008-05-11 12:24 < Taza> Messedrocker: Point
2008-05-11 12:25 < eth01> how about, down, down, down, down, down, down, unplug everything.
2008-05-11 12:25 < Messedrocker> "Start" is to start the game
2008-05-11 12:25 < Lucifer_Cat> eth01: feel free to try that on your modem.
2008-05-11 12:25 < White_Cat> down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, dow
2008-05-11 12:25 < eth01> which modem in question?
2008-05-11 12:25 < Taza> White_Cat: stab stab stab stab.
2008-05-11 12:25 < Thehelpfulone2> White_Cat: ?
2008-05-11 12:26 < White_Cat> Thehelpfulone I am feeling down
2008-05-11 12:26 < Taza> He's an old troll
2008-05-11 12:26 * Thehelpfulone2 noticed
2008-05-11 12:26 * eth01 prescribes White_Cat a psychostimulant
2008-05-11 12:26 * Messedrocker picks up White_Cat
2008-05-11 12:27 * Mike_H pets Thehelpfulone2
2008-05-11 12:27 * Taza prescribes White_Cat some LSD-25
2008-05-11 12:27 < Taza> It works better than any other antidepressant imo
2008-05-11 12:27 * Lucifer_Cat kicks White_Cat
2008-05-11 12:27 < Lucifer_Cat> Taza: a cat on friggin ACID?
2008-05-11 12:27 < White_Cat> I dont do drugs
2008-05-11 12:28 < eth01> Taza: some antidepressants are effective, most aren't.
2008-05-11 12:28 < White_Cat> I do not touch antidepressant
2008-05-11 12:28 < Krimpet> sertraline is nice. :)
2008-05-11 12:28 < White_Cat> when you are in a pilots cokpit there is always ways to cure it w/o antidepressant
2008-05-11 12:28 < Mike_H> I've never taken pills.
2008-05-11 12:28 < Taza> Krimpet: Ever tried LSD-25 for depression?
2008-05-11 12:28 < Mike_H> Except for Tylenol :DD
2008-05-11 12:29 * denelson83 is listening to "John Fogerty - The Old Man Down The Road" (3:32 - 128kbps - 44kHz - Stereo)
2008-05-11 12:29 < White_Cat> the problem is when you are not in the cockpit
2008-05-11 12:29 * Mike_H NP: Hanson - This Time Around (2000)
2008-05-11 12:29 < Taza> Mike_H: Not even an antibiotic?
2008-05-11 12:29 < Krimpet> Taza: no? :)
2008-05-11 12:29 < eth01> and the most commonly prescribed are SSRI's like paroxetine, citalopram et cetera
2008-05-11 12:29 < Mike_H> Taza: I meant the anti-nutter pills
2008-05-11 12:29 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: your turn on senate.
2008-05-11 12:29 < Taza> Krimpet: 'xactly
2008-05-11 12:29 < eth01> LSD won't help with depression btw
2008-05-11 12:29 * White_Cat presses zee buttons randomly
2008-05-11 12:29 < denelson83> citalowhat?
2008-05-11 12:29 < Taza> Citalopram
2008-05-11 12:29 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I'm moving.
2008-05-11 12:29 < White_Cat> oh look at the conversation I started
2008-05-11 12:29 < Mike_H> denelson83: pram. you know, what British people shove babies down the street in.
2008-05-11 12:29 < denelson83> Taza: You must be a marpolatic
2008-05-11 12:30 * Lucifer_Cat spray pains White_Cat
2008-05-11 12:30 * Taza spays White_Cat
2008-05-11 12:30 < eth01> sorry, i'm from the UK. hence the trade names.
2008-05-11 12:30 < denelson83> spray pains?
2008-05-11 12:30 < White_Cat> wikipedians are all depressed :)
2008-05-11 12:30 < Mike_H> Or is pram like a crib.
2008-05-11 12:30 < Mike_H> I never know the difference.
2008-05-11 12:30 < eth01> pram.
2008-05-11 12:30 < Krimpet> Mike_H: no, you're right
2008-05-11 12:30 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah its like a crib
2008-05-11 12:30 < eth01> it's pram..
2008-05-11 12:30 < Krimpet> it's a stroller
2008-05-11 12:30 < Messedrocker> DUCKS IN A PRAM
2008-05-11 12:30 < denelson83> marpolatic is citalopram spelled backwards, ICYW
2008-05-11 12:30 < White_Cat> Mike_H is always right, especialy when he isnt.
2008-05-11 12:30 < Mike_H> Krimpet: they also say push-chair
2008-05-11 12:30 < Mike_H> so I was confused
2008-05-11 12:30 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: i thought there were babies in a pram
2008-05-11 12:30 < eth01> rarely mike_h
2008-05-11 12:31 < White_Cat> prom babies
2008-05-11 12:31 < eth01> cocaine is good for depression, obviously due to it's legality blah :)
2008-05-11 12:31 < Mike_H> White_Cat: That happened to more than a few girls at my high school!
2008-05-11 12:31 < White_Cat> and not to boys?
2008-05-11 12:31 < Mike_H> White_Cat: boys can't get pregnant, silly
2008-05-11 12:31 < White_Cat> Mike_H right
2008-05-11 12:31 < White_Cat> but they can have babies
2008-05-11 12:32 < White_Cat> they need a female proxy
2008-05-11 12:32 < Taza> Nah
2008-05-11 12:32 * denelson83 is listening to "Her Space Holiday - Sleepy Tigers" (3:27 - 290kbps - 44kHz - Stereo)
2008-05-11 12:32 < Taza> Men can get pregnant
2008-05-11 12:32 < Mike_H> Taza: I don't read the National Enquirer.
2008-05-11 12:32 < Messedrocker> Taza, only if they're transmen with intact reproductive systems
2008-05-11 12:32 < Taza> Nope
2008-05-11 12:32 < eth01> Taza: wrong.
2008-05-11 12:32 < Taza> They cannot produce eggs but they can get pregnant
2008-05-11 12:32 < Krimpet> of course they can, like in that documentary starring Arnold Schwarzenegger
2008-05-11 12:32 < Taza> (they do need to be artificially inseminated though)
2008-05-11 12:32 < eth01> non-fictional, of course.
2008-05-11 12:33 * denelson83 replaces Messedrocker's transman with a eunuch
2008-05-11 12:33 < Lucifer_Cat> see. perfect calculation.
2008-05-11 12:34 < Taza> It is possible to transform a part of a man's stomach into a womb surgically.
2008-05-11 12:34 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Your turn on Senate.
2008-05-11 12:34 < Lucifer_Cat> i know
2008-05-11 12:34 < White_Cat> http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/05/11/myanmar.aid/index.html
2008-05-11 12:35 < White_Cat> can we nominate myanmar for deletion?
2008-05-11 12:35 < denelson83> An amrub?
2008-05-11 12:36 < Messedrocker> Burmymanar
2008-05-11 12:37 < White_Cat> myanma
2008-05-11 12:37 < denelson83> Burning Man?
2008-05-11 12:37 < Messedrocker> BPjM can go fuck itself
2008-05-11 12:38 < Krimpet> who in the what now?
2008-05-11 12:38 < denelson83> You shot who in the what now?
2008-05-11 12:38 < Alkivar> holy christ... this woman needs to learn its a vagina not a clown car: http://www.peculiarosities.com/2008/05/10/woman-in-us-pregnant-with-her-18th-child/
2008-05-11 12:39 < Krimpet> "All the children — whose names start with the letter J — are home-schooled."
2008-05-11 12:39 < denelson83> You shot who in the what now?
2008-05-11 12:39 < denelson83> Damn
2008-05-11 12:39 < Krimpet> god damn, these are the sorts of people that shouldn't be having kids. :/
2008-05-11 12:39 < denelson83> I did it again
2008-05-11 12:40 < Krimpet> unsurprisingly, the father's name is "Jim Bob" -_-
2008-05-11 12:41 < Alkivar> i hope this baby comes breech so the bitch cant have any more kids
2008-05-11 12:41 < Mike_H> Krimpet: I don't understand why he hasn't made her change her name to Jichelle.
2008-05-11 12:41 < Mike_H> You know, to keep with the trend and all.
2008-05-11 12:42 < Alkivar> The Duggars are followers of the evangelical Christian movement called Quiverful
2008-05-11 12:42 < Mike_H> Well, something's quivering if she got knocked up with 18 kids.
2008-05-11 12:42 < Alkivar> all the more reason this shit has to stop
2008-05-11 12:42 < Messedrocker> Mike_H, or JaTwAnikka
2008-05-11 12:42 < Krimpet> Mike_H: apparently they have a daugher "Jinger." D:
2008-05-11 12:42 < Alkivar> http://duggarfamily.com/
2008-05-11 12:42 < Mike_H> Krimpet: Well, they couldn't have spelled it right
2008-05-11 12:42 < Mike_H> G is no J.
2008-05-11 12:42 < Krimpet> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bob_Duggar
2008-05-11 12:42 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: move on senate
2008-05-11 12:43 < Alkivar> The Duggars married in 1984, when Michelle was 17 and Jim Bob was 19. They held off on having kids for four years before Michelle ceased taking birth control pills to have their first child.
2008-05-11 12:43 < Taza> Jesus F Christ.
2008-05-11 12:43 < Mike_H> If only Jim Bob could give birth to one kid.
2008-05-11 12:43 < Taza> The kind of parents who shouldn't be having children at all are having 18.
2008-05-11 12:43 < Mike_H> He wouldn't be so quick to make her shove out 18
2008-05-11 12:43 < Krimpet> why don't they have a kid named "Jesus"? :/
2008-05-11 12:44 < Mike_H> although by now I'm sure she just breaks her water and it just falls out
2008-05-11 12:44 < quanticle> Alkivar: Its stories like this that make me wonder about enforcing a "one-child" policy like in China.
2008-05-11 12:44 < denelson83> China is not a country
2008-05-11 12:44 < Alkivar> no fucking joke
2008-05-11 12:44 < Mike_H> quanticle: well, feel good in the fact that none of these kids are ever going to actually leave Arkansas
2008-05-11 12:44 < quanticle> denelson83: ORLY
2008-05-11 12:44 * Lucifer_Cat muzzles MessedRocker
2008-05-11 12:44 < Krimpet> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Duggar_Family_2007-1.jpg eww, promotional
2008-05-11 12:44 < Mike_H> except for maybe taping special episodes of their TLC freakshow
2008-05-11 12:44 < Messedrocker> now Alkivar what's exactly so damnable about her using her vagina as a clown car?
2008-05-11 12:44 < denelson83> Alkivar: Exactly. No fucking joke
2008-05-11 12:45 < quanticle> Mike_H: Yeah. I certainly hope not. I don't want them contaminating the wider gene pool.
2008-05-11 12:45 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuwcREwKWnM
2008-05-11 12:45 < denelson83> Mike_H: Nice rickroll
2008-05-11 12:45 < Mike_H> denelson83: I know
2008-05-11 12:45 < Mike_H> it's hot
2008-05-11 12:45 < Lucifer_Cat> the one second from right doesnt suck,
2008-05-11 12:46 < Alkivar> Michelle and Jim Bob decided to pray for as many children as God would give them.
2008-05-11 12:46 < Mike_H> denelson83: because we have to be equal and all
2008-05-11 12:46 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWRyx-VN9Lw
2008-05-11 12:46 < Lycurgus> China has been a country since the Qin Shi Huang
2008-05-11 12:46 < Lycurgus> s/the//
2008-05-11 12:46 < Alkivar> dont be surprised if they have 25 kids in a couple years
2008-05-11 12:46 < Lycurgus> i.e. for roughly 2200 years.
2008-05-11 12:46 < Mike_H> Alkivar: her uterus is gonna fall out before then
2008-05-11 12:46 < Lucifer_Cat> Alkivar: poor excuse not to use condoms?
2008-05-11 12:47 < Lucifer_Cat> thanks for the imagery Mike_H
2008-05-11 12:47 < Krimpet> judging from the picture, I take it they're the type that don't let their women wear pants, either
2008-05-11 12:47 < Messedrocker> Do Discordians swear their oath on a copy of the Voynich Manuscript?
2008-05-11 12:47 < Mike_H> Krimpet: at least they can wear normal clothing and stuff
2008-05-11 12:47 < quanticle> What I don't get is, how do they expect to pay for raising all these kids. I mean, America has child labor laws, so its not like they can just send them off to the factories.
2008-05-11 12:47 < Mike_H> not like those freaky Mormons from that compound who wear Amish dresses
2008-05-11 12:47 < Krimpet> IMO, homeschooling should be outlawed. <_<
2008-05-11 12:48 < Krimpet> Mike_H: true
2008-05-11 12:48 < denelson83> Lycurgus: China ceased being a country when the communists seized it
2008-05-11 12:48 < quanticle> Mike_H: Their proscription on the color red made me think of "The Village".
2008-05-11 12:48 < Messedrocker> denelson83, so then China's existence transferred to Taiwan?
2008-05-11 12:48 < denelson83> Exactly
2008-05-11 12:48 < denelson83> Taiwan is more free
2008-05-11 12:48 < Alkivar> Michelle has been pregnant for 135 months of her life, with an average of 18 months between births. The family estimates it has used 90,000 diapers and launders 200 loads of clothes each month in a row
2008-05-11 12:48 < Krimpet> The Duggars say they live debt-free,[10][11] which Mr. Duggar has said is “the fruit of a financial freedom seminar” he attended years ago.
2008-05-11 12:49 < quanticle> denelson83: So, umm, y'know those one and a half billion people on the mainland, what are they, if not China?
2008-05-11 12:49 < Alkivar> lol yeah
2008-05-11 12:49 < Mike_H> denelson83: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZc1XShOTY
2008-05-11 12:49 < Alkivar> they're Dave Ramsey customers
2008-05-11 12:49 < Mike_H> Computer graphics in its infancy on TV
2008-05-11 12:49 < Mike_H> :D
2008-05-11 12:49 < Lycurgus> fool, Taiwan will shortly be reincorporated into China
2008-05-11 12:49 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, in that jim bob pic, the last 2 seem decent... the rest look intermittently inborn
2008-05-11 12:49 < Alkivar> i've heard Jim Bob on Dave Ramsey's show before
2008-05-11 12:49 < Alkivar> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24537885/
2008-05-11 12:49 < Alkivar> much better article
2008-05-11 12:49 < Alkivar> Each child learns to play both violin and piano.
2008-05-11 12:49 < denelson83> Lycurgus: I will not tolerate more people getting oppressed and repressed
2008-05-11 12:50 * quanticle hands denelson83 a rifle and a boat to China.
2008-05-11 12:50 < Alkivar> Even though they go through three loaves of bread per day, they claim to feed their family for less than $2,000 a month. Transportation is facilitated by nine vehicles, led by a 21-passenger bus.
2008-05-11 12:50 < denelson83> quanticle: Rifles are how oppression and repression get perpetuated
2008-05-11 12:50 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: move on Senate
2008-05-11 12:50 < Krimpet> 21-passenger bus _and_ nine vehicles? is every trip to the store a sideshow or something?
2008-05-11 12:50 * quanticle takes away denelson83's rifle.
2008-05-11 12:50 < Lycurgus> human breeding shouldn't be that much more expensive than some other livestock
2008-05-11 12:51 < denelson83> Thank you
2008-05-11 12:51 < Lycurgus> and they do have some apparent economies of scale in their favor
2008-05-11 12:51 < denelson83> And it wasn't mine in the first place
2008-05-11 12:51 < quanticle> denelson83: The boat to China is still available, though :)
2008-05-11 12:51 * denelson83 sinks it
2008-05-11 12:51 < Krimpet> What should the Duggars name baby #18? Cast your vote.
2008-05-11 12:51 < Lucifer_Cat> also, guys would love to be a part of that project.
2008-05-11 12:51 < Lucifer_Cat> till they realize women look like cows soon after their first baby
2008-05-11 12:52 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Done.
2008-05-11 12:52 < Lycurgus> in one sense you are right though. The state than Zheng created was an empire which normatively must include at least two countries.
2008-05-11 12:52 < Alkivar> RICK
2008-05-11 12:52 < quanticle> ROLL
2008-05-11 12:52 < Alkivar> they need to name the 18th one Rick
2008-05-11 12:53 < CharlotteWebb> ah the joy of editing http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=At_Seventeen&diff=211684499&oldid=162122220
2008-05-11 12:53 < Alkivar> or Astley if its a girl
2008-05-11 12:53 < Alkivar> we should totally rick roll them
2008-05-11 12:53 < Krimpet> Alkivar: needs to start with "J," disappointingly. :/
2008-05-11 12:53 * CharlotteWebb wishes she'd heard the song when she was 17
2008-05-11 12:53 < Zouavman> Greetings, Wikipedians
2008-05-11 12:53 < Alkivar> oh lame
2008-05-11 12:53 < Alkivar> Jerick
2008-05-11 12:53 < Lycurgus> the linguistic unification of china for example is really only oncurring just now
2008-05-11 12:53 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Your turn on Senate
2008-05-11 12:53 < Alkivar> Jastley?
2008-05-11 12:53 < CharlotteWebb> if somebody can help this not get deleted, i'd be happy
2008-05-11 12:53 < Lucifer_Cat> i know
2008-05-11 12:53 < Lycurgus> *ocurring
2008-05-11 12:54 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Indeed. China only really got unified linguistically after Mao created simplified Chinese and imposed it on the populace.
2008-05-11 12:54 < Krimpet> CharlotteWebb: if someone drive-by tags it for speedy, they should be whacked on the head
2008-05-11 12:54 < CharlotteWebb> beans, krimpet
2008-05-11 12:54 < cimon> Anyone here from the board of trustees voting administration group?
2008-05-11 12:54 < Mike_H> Computerised graphics have been popular since BBC Two introduced the world's first computer-generated television identification in the summer of 1979. Less than three months later, American broadcaster NBC introduced their first computerised graphics.
2008-05-11 12:55 < quanticle> Mike_H: Was that the famous peacock logo?
2008-05-11 12:55 * Krimpet says nothing as a pinto bean falls out of her left nostril
2008-05-11 12:55 < Mike_H> quanticle: It was when they switched from the N to the peacock with the N, yes.
2008-05-11 12:55 < CharlotteWebb> we all know that WP:ITSGOTREFS is an "argument to avoid in deletion discussions"
2008-05-11 12:55 < CharlotteWebb> or if not, it will be
2008-05-11 12:55 < Mike_H> quanticle: example
2008-05-11 12:55 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qZc1XShOTY
2008-05-11 12:55 < Lycurgus> well it became possible 1) when a single spoken dialect became preeminent and 2) when mass communications and travel brought speakers of the common script into direct contact
2008-05-11 12:55 < denelson83> Mike_H: The "Proud N"
2008-05-11 12:56 < CharlotteWebb> oh shit i forgot to mention that she performed this song
2008-05-11 12:56 < Mike_H> denelson83: Proud as a Peacock!
2008-05-11 12:56 < denelson83> NBC got sued over that N, you know
2008-05-11 12:56 < CharlotteWebb> on the first episode of SNL
2008-05-11 12:56 < Lycurgus> chines tv is prolly unique in that it's the norm for programs to be subtitled in chinese
2008-05-11 12:56 < CharlotteWebb> the very first
2008-05-11 12:56 < Mike_H> denelson83: Why did they keep it if they were sued over it (didn't they lose that lawsuit too?)
2008-05-11 12:56 < denelson83> They got to keep it after helping the plaintiff get a new logo
2008-05-11 12:56 < Mike_H> ah
2008-05-11 12:57 < denelson83> The plaintiff in this case was Nebraska Educational Television
2008-05-11 12:57 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Well, Indian TV often has subtitles too.
2008-05-11 12:57 < denelson83> So does British television, on page 888
2008-05-11 12:57 < quanticle> denelson83: British television is normally subtitled?
2008-05-11 12:57 < Lycurgus> quanticle: thanks, in english or hindi or what?
2008-05-11 12:58 < denelson83> quanticle: On page 888, yes
2008-05-11 12:58 < Mike_H> denelson83: Do you know what year it was when the networks first started captioning regular TV programs?
2008-05-11 12:58 < denelson83> Ceefax FTW
2008-05-11 12:58 < denelson83> Mike_H: dunno
2008-05-11 12:58 < Mike_H> I know in the US a law was passed ruling that all TVs made in the US had to be equipped with captioning by 1993.
2008-05-11 12:58 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Hmmm. Its usually subtitled in Hindi, if the program's dialogue is in a regional language.
2008-05-11 12:58 < Lycurgus> Acknowledged, that's what I would have expected.
2008-05-11 12:58 < quanticle> Mike_H: Do you know how captioning works?
2008-05-11 12:59 < Mike_H> quanticle: no, and would it be rude of me to say I don't really want to know?
2008-05-11 12:59 < quanticle> Mike_H: Not at all.
2008-05-11 12:59 < Mike_H> at least not right now anyway
2008-05-11 12:59 < Lycurgus> it's an encoding most receivers hanve
2008-05-11 12:59 < Lycurgus> *have
2008-05-11 13:00 < Lycurgus> in their on-screen setup menus
2008-05-11 13:00 < denelson83> EIA-708?
2008-05-11 13:00 < Mike_H> denelson83: I know stereo sound started in 1984
2008-05-11 13:00 < quanticle> "Automatic computer speech recognition now works well when trained to recognize a single voice, and so since 2003 the BBC does live subtitling by having someone re-speak what is being broadcast." <-- Hmmm. So that's how they do it.
2008-05-11 13:00 < Mike_H> and each network started doing stereo sound one year after the other
2008-05-11 13:00 < Mike_H> NBC in 1985
2008-05-11 13:00 < Mike_H> ABC in 1986
2008-05-11 13:00 < Mike_H> and CBS in 1987.
2008-05-11 13:01 < Lycurgus> [[Closed captioning]]
2008-05-11 13:01 < Mike_H> Sporadic network transmission of stereo audio began on NBC on July 26, 1984, with the The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, although at the time, only the NBC station in New York City had stereo broadcast capability;[1] regular stereo transmission of NBC programs began in 1985. ABC and CBS followed suit in 1986 and 1987, respectively.
2008-05-11 13:01 < CharlotteWebb> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=At_Seventeen&diff=211685985&oldid=211684499 prima facie
2008-05-11 13:02 < quanticle> CharlotteWebb: Prima fascie what?
2008-05-11 13:02 < CharlotteWebb> evidence of "notability"
2008-05-11 13:02 < Mike_H> denelson83: and then color TV was introduced to Canada later, right?
2008-05-11 13:02 < Mike_H> later than the US at least
2008-05-11 13:02 < quanticle> CharlotteWebb: Ah. Ok.
2008-05-11 13:03 < Mike_H> we started our color tests in the '50s
2008-05-11 13:03 < Mike_H> and Canada didn't start their tests until 1966, I believe
2008-05-11 13:03 < Mike_H> and then the CBC went fully color in 1974
2008-05-11 13:04 < cimon> Mike_H: do you still remember b&w television?
2008-05-11 13:04 < denelson83> Colour TV started on CBC in 1966
2008-05-11 13:04 < Mike_H> cimon: I was born in 1985, of course I don't. But my mom did and she tells me stories :)
2008-05-11 13:04 < denelson83> That's when the Butterfly logo appeared
2008-05-11 13:04 < Krimpet> luuuuuuucy, you've got some 'splainin to do!
2008-05-11 13:04 < Mike_H> denelson83: it was just tests in 1966, right?
2008-05-11 13:04 < Mike_H> I saw a CBC news clip from 1970
2008-05-11 13:05 < denelson83> Then a phase-in
2008-05-11 13:05 < Mike_H> and it was in black and white
2008-05-11 13:05 < denelson83> Only after the last B&W program aired did CBC switch to the expanding "C" logo
2008-05-11 13:05 < Mike_H> oh, okay
2008-05-11 13:05 < Mike_H> and that was in 1974.
2008-05-11 13:05 < denelson83> yes, December
2008-05-11 13:05 < cimon> Mike_H: you know the requirement for ice hockey teams to have two jerseys, one dark one light coloured is because of b&w tellys
2008-05-11 13:05 < Mike_H> denelson83: In the US, the networks switched to full color schedules by year, one after the other
2008-05-11 13:06 < Mike_H> NBC in '64, CBS in '65 and ABC in '66
2008-05-11 13:06 < denelson83> CBS was the last network to start broadcasting in colour
2008-05-11 13:06 < Mike_H> but NBC had broadcast many color programs every week long before 1964
2008-05-11 13:06 < Mike_H> denelson83: no, ABC was.
2008-05-11 13:06 < Mike_H> CBS switched second.
2008-05-11 13:06 < denelson83> CBS had a bad taste in its mouth after the failure of its own colour TV system
2008-05-11 13:06 < Messedrocker> ah right, CBS actually made hardware at some point didn't they
2008-05-11 13:07 < Mike_H> yeah, they did.
2008-05-11 13:07 < Messedrocker> like, the CBS ColecoVision or something like that
2008-05-11 13:07 < Mike_H> When CBS switched to color in '65 it was with NBC technology, and it was a loss for the network in terms of profits
2008-05-11 13:08 < CharlotteWebb> i bet it gets AFD'd
2008-05-11 13:08 < Mike_H> denelson83: the last black and white weekly programs stopped airing in '66 in the US, but they continued "in color" notices at the start of broadcasts until 1972.
2008-05-11 13:08 < Mike_H> 1972 was the first year the majority of US households had color sets.
2008-05-11 13:09 < Mike_H> denelson83: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6C-R0lxHZA
2008-05-11 13:09 < Mike_H> that was from '65 to '72
2008-05-11 13:09 < Lucifer_Cat> india got cable tv in '92
2008-05-11 13:09 < Lucifer_Cat> I on the other hand, got it in 2000
2008-05-11 13:09 < denelson83> Mike_H: Okay, I got it
2008-05-11 13:10 < Mike_H> denelson83: but daytime was a different story
2008-05-11 13:10 < Mike_H> they were a bit behind
2008-05-11 13:10 < Mike_H> they didn't transition until...'67 or '68
2008-05-11 13:10 < Mike_H> I think the last soap opera to move to color was in '68.
2008-05-11 13:12 < Mike_H> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_television#Color_television
2008-05-11 13:16 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Your turn on Senate
2008-05-11 13:22 < Alkivar> Mike thats inaccurate
2008-05-11 13:22 < Alkivar> there was a local station up here in Maine that was still broadcasting in B&W til 1981
2008-05-11 13:23 < Alkivar> but it was a PBS station no one really watched lol
2008-05-11 13:24 < Lucifer_Cat> be back later
2008-05-11 13:24 < quanticle> Ok Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-11 13:41 < eth01> Alkivar: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_television&action=edit
2008-05-11 13:44 < Daemones[xi]_> please give me cloak
2008-05-11 13:44 < quanticle> Daemones[xi]_: Have you asked for one?
2008-05-11 13:45 < Daemones[xi]_> where?