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2008-05-10 01:10 < gwern> yes, I need context for the mouse
2008-05-10 01:10 < gwern> the sushi itself needs no context - someone wants to eat some sushi
2008-05-10 01:11 < Messedrocker> who cares about the context?
2008-05-10 01:11 < Messedrocker> a mouse got onto a sushi platter
2008-05-10 01:11 < Lucifer_Cat> and looks just like the rest of it
2008-05-10 01:11 < gwern> there is a mouse on the sushi platter, but we cannot be sure it 'got onto'
2008-05-10 01:12 < gwern> what is the mouse's motive?
2008-05-10 01:12 < gwern> is it suicide by human?
2008-05-10 01:12 < gwern> or perhaps it is a practical joke?
2008-05-10 01:12 < gwern> we just don't know
2008-05-10 01:13 < gwern> we have this snapshot of a moment in time, gravid with potential, and all the surrounding moments have been slurped away by time like spaghetti
2008-05-10 01:13 < Messedrocker> or maybe a mouse found its way into the room
2008-05-10 01:13 < Messedrocker> and decided to check out the sushi
2008-05-10 01:18 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: are you drinking age?
2008-05-10 01:18 < Werdna> neskaya!
2008-05-10 01:18 * Werdna cuddles neskaya
2008-05-10 01:18 < Werdna> what brings you to this dark and evil land ;-)
2008-05-10 01:19 < neskaya> Werdna: Boredness and needing to have something to do.
2008-05-10 01:19 < Werdna> how goes, neskaya
2008-05-10 01:19 < Werdna> long time, no talk
2008-05-10 01:19 < neskaya> It goes.
2008-05-10 01:19 < Werdna> but how?
2008-05-10 01:19 < Werdna> we're not talking in french ;-)
2008-05-10 01:19 < neskaya> Don't feel like talking about that.
2008-05-10 01:19 * Lucifer_Cat gives neskaya something to do
2008-05-10 01:19 < Werdna> :(
2008-05-10 01:19 < Werdna> not so good?
2008-05-10 01:19 < neskaya> No, not so good.
2008-05-10 01:20 * Werdna hugs.
2008-05-10 01:20 < neskaya> Friend committed suicide on Sunday and it's been hard.
2008-05-10 01:20 < neskaya> thanks.
2008-05-10 01:20 < Lucifer_Cat> aww :(
2008-05-10 01:20 < Werdna> ouch.
2008-05-10 01:20 * Lucifer_Cat huggles neskaya
2008-05-10 01:20 < The359> Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig El Abderahman El Mohammed Ahmed El Abdel Karim El Mahdi <-- sweet fuck
2008-05-10 01:20 < Werdna> neskaya: when do you finish up at high school?
2008-05-10 01:20 < neskaya> Werdna: June.
2008-05-10 01:20 < Werdna> neskaya: o rly? I finish in november.
2008-05-10 01:20 * neskaya backs away from all the hugs and clings on JigmeDatse.
2008-05-10 01:21 < neskaya> That's because your summer break is at the damned wrong time of year, Werdna.
2008-05-10 01:21 < Werdna> I'm going to Britain next year for a year, but I think I'm going via aspen. Will probably come through california on the way, so I might pay you a visit.
2008-05-10 01:21 < neskaya> Neat. You should, Hollyweird is fun.
2008-05-10 01:21 < neskaya> And I'll be done with high school so I'll have some spare time.
2008-05-10 01:21 < Werdna> I came to Hollyweird already
2008-05-10 01:21 < Werdna> it was, as you suggest, weird.
2008-05-10 01:22 < Werdna> being harrassed every other step by somebody selling something :(
2008-05-10 01:22 < Werdna> and then there were the scientologists :P
2008-05-10 01:22 < neskaya> Well yeah. There's more fun in Hollyweird though.
2008-05-10 01:22 < neskaya> You didn't ge tto go stand in line for three hours at Pinks yet.
2008-05-10 01:23 < Werdna> Pinks?
2008-05-10 01:23 < Neskaya> The best hotdog stand in California.
2008-05-10 01:23 < Werdna> ah
2008-05-10 01:23 < Werdna> fun fun
2008-05-10 01:23 < Neskaya> The one where there are regular star sightings. And gigantic lines.
2008-05-10 01:23 < Werdna> oh good.
2008-05-10 01:24 < Werdna> never been a fan of that celebrity spotting etc.
2008-05-10 01:25 < Werdna> the touristy stuff is boring.
2008-05-10 01:25 < Neskaya> Yes, but the hotdogs are good.
2008-05-10 01:25 < Neskaya> And worth it.
2008-05-10 01:25 * Werdna shrugs.
2008-05-10 01:27 * Werdna is currently avoiding a rugby game that he is expected to watch
2008-05-10 01:27 < Lucifer_Cat> El 359
2008-05-10 01:28 * Werdna prefers to sit at home and relax before he heads off to see teh girlfriend.
2008-05-10 01:30 < Gracenotes_away> in the Windows Task Manager, what's "network utilization"? does anyone know?
2008-05-10 01:31 < Werdna> the amount of data sent/received on the network versus the capacity for sending/receivbing data
2008-05-10 01:31 < The359> ???
2008-05-10 01:32 < Gracenotes_away> Werdna: what could this be limited by? Packet loss or competing traffic, maybe?
2008-05-10 01:33 < Werdna> Gracenotes_away: the utilisation limited by something? or capacity?
2008-05-10 01:34 < The359> what, Lucifer_Cat?
2008-05-10 01:34 < Gracenotes_away> utilization
2008-05-10 01:34 < Werdna> Gracenotes_away: other bottlenecks in transfers, competing traffic, packet loss.
2008-05-10 01:35 < Gracenotes_away> gotcha. thanks!
2008-05-10 01:35 < Werdna> for example, if you're doing encryption and that's slower than the transfer rate, or the other side has a slower connection
2008-05-10 01:35 < Werdna> or you're using CIFS
2008-05-10 01:36 * Lady_Aleena enters and plops on the sofa while trying to catch onto the current conversation.
2008-05-10 01:37 < Mike_H> Lady_Aleena: It's '90s time.
2008-05-10 01:37 * Mike_H NP: Hanson - Where's the Love (1997)
2008-05-10 01:37 < Lady_Aleena> Mike_H: I couldn't stand most of the 90s.
2008-05-10 01:38 < Mike_H> Lady_Aleena: you need some Hanson to pep up your day.
2008-05-10 01:38 < Krimpet> Mike_H: people were blaring Hanson in the academic quad here all day...
2008-05-10 01:38 < Lady_Aleena> Mike_H: I am trying to remember who they are.
2008-05-10 01:39 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: what makes you ask if I am of drinking age?
2008-05-10 01:39 < Krimpet> apparently they were collecting donations to get people to "Stop the Bop."
2008-05-10 01:40 < The359> Hanson can DIAF
2008-05-10 01:40 < Lady_Aleena> DIAF?
2008-05-10 01:40 < Mike_H> Lady_Aleena: Hanson, you know
2008-05-10 01:40 < The359> Die in a Fire
2008-05-10 01:40 < Mike_H> three brothers
2008-05-10 01:40 < Mike_H> long blond hair
2008-05-10 01:40 < Mike_H> prettier than girls
2008-05-10 01:40 < Mike_H> maybe they were girls
2008-05-10 01:40 < Mike_H> who knows.
2008-05-10 01:40 < Lady_Aleena> Mike_H: Sorry I can't place them.
2008-05-10 01:41 < Krimpet> "mmmbop" will probably jar your memory D:
2008-05-10 01:41 < Lady_Aleena> Oh, them...okay....uck.
2008-05-10 01:42 * Mike_H NP: Hanson - This Time Around (2000)
2008-05-10 01:42 < Krimpet> uck is correct. eww would also be acceptable :)
2008-05-10 01:42 < Lady_Aleena> More kids...
2008-05-10 01:42 < Lady_Aleena> ewwuck?
2008-05-10 01:42 < Mike_H> This Time Around is probably their best song
2008-05-10 01:42 < Mike_H> probably because they were older by this point and you could tell it in their music.
2008-05-10 01:43 * I_am_Keegan puts on Toad the Wet Sprocket
2008-05-10 01:43 < Lady_Aleena> What shows like Idol needs is a drunken audience with bad owners for the judges and a safety cage for the performers. :)
2008-05-10 01:43 < Mike_H> like, by this time all three of them had hit puberty
2008-05-10 01:43 < Mike_H> and I think the oldest one was actually in his 20s.
2008-05-10 01:43 < Lady_Aleena> s/bad/bar
2008-05-10 01:44 < Lady_Aleena> Sleezy bar owners to boot. :)
2008-05-10 01:44 < Mike_H> Krimpet: I'd actually recommend This Time Around.
2008-05-10 01:45 < Lady_Aleena> Idol shows are killing the music. Too much fluff is getting produced.
2008-05-10 01:45 < Mike_H> It's not at all like the shit they became known for.
2008-05-10 01:45 < Mike_H> Krimpet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOchEMY1K3w
2008-05-10 01:45 < Mike_H> It had more rock and soul tone to it.
2008-05-10 01:46 < I_am_Keegan> psh
2008-05-10 01:46 < Lady_Aleena> If anyone likes Doctor Who, I would suggest watching this great video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnKNupdSH8g
2008-05-10 01:46 < I_am_Keegan> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yp1ZGW9MdbI
2008-05-10 01:46 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> yeah, we're definitely on summer temps already
2008-05-10 01:46 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> it's 1:44 a.m.
2008-05-10 01:46 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> and 79 degrees.
2008-05-10 01:46 < Mike_H> :(
2008-05-10 01:46 < Lady_Aleena> Keegan, what is that?
2008-05-10 01:46 < I_am_Keegan> Toad's "Something's Always Wrong" video
2008-05-10 01:46 < I_am_Keegan> one of the best of the nineties :D
2008-05-10 01:47 < Lady_Aleena> Who is Toad? Never heard of them.
2008-05-10 01:47 < I_am_Keegan> [[Toad the Wet Sprocket]]
2008-05-10 01:47 < Mike_H> One song that symbolizes the '90s to me is OMC's How Bizarre.
2008-05-10 01:47 < Mike_H> let me get that one.
2008-05-10 01:47 < I_am_Keegan> nooooooooooo
2008-05-10 01:47 * Mike_H NP: OMC - How Bizarre (1995)
2008-05-10 01:47 < Lady_Aleena> Keegan, oh, okay...heard of them, just can't remember anything that they did.
2008-05-10 01:48 < I_am_Keegan> Well, as Glen said in an interview, "I can go shopping and no one knows who I am. How many other bands have sold 5 million albums and have that luxury?"
2008-05-10 01:48 < Mike_H> I_am_Keegan: ooh baby
2008-05-10 01:48 < Mike_H> (ooh baby)
2008-05-10 01:48 < Mike_H> it's making me crazy!
2008-05-10 01:48 < Mike_H> (it's making me crazy)
2008-05-10 01:49 < Mike_H> Ooh, anyone remember The Grind on MTV?
2008-05-10 01:49 < Lady_Aleena> I just wish I had a Whovian to talk to at the moment. I am feeling the need to vent to someone who understands.
2008-05-10 01:50 < Mike_H> That dance show hosted by that douche Real Worlder which would air at like seven in the morning?
2008-05-10 01:50 < I_am_Keegan> Who would have thought that Lifehouse would still have a viable musical career?
2008-05-10 01:50 < Mike_H> Wow, Lifehouse.
2008-05-10 01:50 < Mike_H> Hello again, ninth grade!
2008-05-10 01:50 < I_am_Keegan> freshman year of college
2008-05-10 01:51 < Mike_H> I_am_Keegan: You went into college in 2000?
2008-05-10 01:51 < I_am_Keegan> Spring 2000
2008-05-10 01:51 < Mike_H> Okay.
2008-05-10 01:51 < I_am_Keegan> I took a semester off
2008-05-10 01:51 < Mike_H> I_am_Keegan: Oh, you're 26?
2008-05-10 01:51 < I_am_Keegan> aye
2008-05-10 01:51 < Mike_H> I thought you were younger.
2008-05-10 01:51 < I_am_Keegan> That's just my maturity ;)
2008-05-10 01:52 < Mike_H> Oh, I have another '90s hit!
2008-05-10 01:52 * Mike_H NP: Jennifer Paige - Crush (1997)
2008-05-10 01:52 < Mike_H> It's JUST!
2008-05-10 01:52 < Mike_H> A little CRUSH!
2008-05-10 01:52 < I_am_Keegan> You want Just?
2008-05-10 01:52 < Mike_H> If all you're offering is "a little," then yes. ;D
2008-05-10 01:52 < I_am_Keegan> http://youtube.com/watch?v=R5X7HKxpiQA
2008-05-10 01:53 < Mike_H> Jennifer Paige has this Julie Bowen quality to her face
2008-05-10 01:53 < Mike_H> I think it's the eyes
2008-05-10 01:54 * I_am_Keegan plays the Gin Blossoms
2008-05-10 01:54 < Mike_H> I_am_Keegan: Oh, the Wannadies!
2008-05-10 01:54 < Mike_H> from Romeo + Juliet!
2008-05-10 01:54 < Mike_H> Oh, that's so '90s.
2008-05-10 01:55 < I_am_Keegan> Radiohead? or the Gin Blossoms? I presume you are talking about "Talk Show Host"
2008-05-10 01:55 < I_am_Keegan> or the soundtrack? because that is so 90's
2008-05-10 01:55 < I_am_Keegan> good movie though. I own it
2008-05-10 01:56 * I_am_Keegan is a Shakespeare fan
2008-05-10 01:57 < Mike_H> I_am_Keegan: the soundtrack
2008-05-10 01:57 < Mike_H> Wannadies had a good song from that
2008-05-10 01:57 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4D5N0vqFXw
2008-05-10 01:58 * Mike_H NP: Wannadies - You and Me Song (1996)
2008-05-10 01:58 < I_am_Keegan> Yeah I remember now
2008-05-10 01:58 < I_am_Keegan> that soundtrack and Empire Records
2008-05-10 01:58 < I_am_Keegan> (which has a Toad song on it ;))
2008-05-10 01:59 * Lady_Aleena has 7 weeks more of torture waiting for the big Doctor Who reunion, 9 weeks to see if it ends happily ever after or not, so burbles and repeated herself from -en.
2008-05-10 02:08 * Mike_H NP: Soul II Soul - Back to Life (However Do You Want Me) (1989)
2008-05-10 02:08 * Mike_H dances with I_am_Keegan
2008-05-10 02:08 < I_am_Keegan> o_O
2008-05-10 02:08 < Mike_H> back to life
2008-05-10 02:08 < Mike_H> back to reality
2008-05-10 02:18 < The359> 100% 50/50?
2008-05-10 02:18 < The359> that means it's guarenteed to work half the time?
2008-05-10 02:19 < kmccoy> Mmm, tour buses: http://picasaweb.google.com/pioneercoachphotos
2008-05-10 02:23 < I_am_Keegan> The359: Maybe that should read 50:50
2008-05-10 02:39 < Gracenotes_away> does anyone know of any works of fiction in which flying is an important part of the climax/denouement?
2008-05-10 02:40 < Lady_Aleena> Natural or mechanical?
2008-05-10 02:40 < Gracenotes_away> natural, but in a mythological sense
2008-05-10 02:40 < Lady_Aleena> There is the climax of the miniseries Dinotopia.
2008-05-10 02:41 < Gracenotes_away> i.e. mammals doing so
2008-05-10 02:41 < Gracenotes_away> hm. interesting; I'm not familiar with it.
2008-05-10 02:42 < Messedrocker> "With the PS3 and the Wii taken, it leaves only one machine to represent the likely Republican candidate, John McCain. That is, of course, the Atari 2600."
2008-05-10 02:42 < Messedrocker> HAHAHAHA
2008-05-10 02:42 < V`Ger> xD
2008-05-10 02:42 < Gracenotes_away> comparing the race card and age card makes my head asplode :|
2008-05-10 02:43 < The359> PS3 and Wii are taken?
2008-05-10 02:44 < Neskaya> Goodnight folks.
2008-05-10 02:45 < Messedrocker> The359, by Clinton and Obama
2008-05-10 02:45 < Messedrocker> and so the predicted outcome would be that McCain would be called the Xbox 360
2008-05-10 02:45 < Messedrocker> except instead he's called the Atari 2600.
2008-05-10 02:46 < Messedrocker> though John McCain could easily be likened to the Xbox 360. He's obsessed with war, for example.
2008-05-10 02:46 < The359> when did they claim PS3 and Wii?
2008-05-10 02:46 < The359> Or, who claimed it for them?
2008-05-10 02:46 < Messedrocker> http://madatoms.com/2008/03/if-candidates-were-video-game-consoles.html
2008-05-10 02:48 * V`Ger is now going to bed, good night!
2008-05-10 03:09 < Auctus> am I just reading wrong, or does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyd_massacre say that the same guy who led the attack is the guy who showed up the next day to rescue them? Is this article contradictory?
2008-05-10 03:29 < skysong> hi
2008-05-10 03:31 < Gracenotes_away> good day to you, skysong
2008-05-10 03:31 < skysong> thanks, same to you:)
2008-05-10 03:32 < skysong> just wondering, well i checked the wikipedia site and for the first time i happened to come across the contribution thing
2008-05-10 03:36 < skysong> anybody mind helping?
2008-05-10 03:37 < Reedy> whats up?
2008-05-10 03:37 < skysong> just wondering if you still needed volunteers
2008-05-10 03:37 < Lady_Aleena> skysong: Please be specific.
2008-05-10 03:37 < Reedy> We always need new people!
2008-05-10 03:38 < skysong> im french-speaking so i can help with the translation and ive got some free time now:p
2008-05-10 03:38 < Lady_Aleena> We could always use fresh sets of eyeballs.
2008-05-10 03:39 < skysong> ok
2008-05-10 03:39 < Reedy> i think, theres a list of pages to be translated somewhere
2008-05-10 03:39 < skysong> then the problem is i can't really understand why you need people for
2008-05-10 03:39 < Reedy> on the french and english
2008-05-10 03:39 < Reedy> skysong, without people, how can there be any content?
2008-05-10 03:39 < skysong> sure, how do i proceed then?
2008-05-10 03:39 < Reedy> create an account
2008-05-10 03:39 < skysong> thats not what i meant Reedy, sorry..
2008-05-10 03:40 < Reedy> find a page, click edit, and make suitable changes
2008-05-10 03:41 < skysong> k
2008-05-10 03:41 < Gracenotes_away> downstream problems make me so impatient :|
2008-05-10 03:41 < Gracenotes_away> whereas upstream problems just make me annoyed >_<
2008-05-10 03:42 < Addshore> hey
2008-05-10 03:44 < skysong> ive quit complaining about my connection, it won't improve i guess:s
2008-05-10 03:45 < Gracenotes_away> well, at the moment, I'm dealing with a downstream problem
2008-05-10 03:45 < Gracenotes_away> so the connection will improve during off-peak hours
2008-05-10 03:48 < skysong> do i need an account to help the translation team?
2008-05-10 06:11 < yao_ziyuan> I suspect that people remember hard (e.g. someone's phone number) and soft (e.g. a historical fact; a famous quotation) information differently.
2008-05-10 06:18 < The359> that's not the way memory works
2008-05-10 06:27 < coldpeer> hello
2008-05-10 06:48 * isdead 퇴근함미다
2008-05-10 06:54 < ThePolecat> Wow, de.wikipedia doesn't immediately show the effect of an edit now, but waits for someone to look at the edit?
2008-05-10 06:54 < ThePolecat> how un-wiki
2008-05-10 06:54 < Aqwis> fascist.wiki *cough cough*
2008-05-10 06:56 < Flo_1> .oO(...) well. it is discussed there as well
2008-05-10 06:56 < ThePolecat> But I can see my edit, so I've no idea.
2008-05-10 06:56 * ThePolecat doesn't understand the system but feels he doesn't like it
2008-05-10 06:57 < bumm13> see what happens when you allow Germans to control something? ;)
2008-05-10 06:57 < ThePolecat> eh, it wouldn't have happened if they'd allowed me.
2008-05-10 06:57 * ThePolecat doesn't get it
2008-05-10 06:58 < ThePolecat> Am I the only one now knowing that Strom Thurmond was in fact not a senator from Mississippi?
2008-05-10 06:58 < bumm13> o.o
2008-05-10 06:59 < ThePolecat> "Standardmäßig wird beim Aufruf eines Artikels nicht sofort die neueste Version angezeigt, sondern die letzte markierte Version vorgezogen. Neuer Vandalismus ist somit nicht mehr direkt sichtbar. Administratoren können für einzelne Seiten dieses Verhalten („Seitenkonfiguration“) umstellen."
2008-05-10 06:59 < ThePolecat> It's the same thing all over again, one more time.
2008-05-10 07:00 < ThePolecat> that sounds like there's gonna be about a tenth the number of edits, presumably
2008-05-10 07:00 < Flo_1> its only if one version of a page is already marked. and those people who marked it are supposed to have that article on their watchlist
2008-05-10 07:00 < ThePolecat> people won't bother to seek admission from a hierarchy they have no stake in.
2008-05-10 07:01 < ThePolecat> Maybe Saturday is a good day to try and change it then.
2008-05-10 07:01 * Flo_1 does not like that stuff either
2008-05-10 07:01 < ThePolecat> Because there seems to be a presumption of guilt right now.
2008-05-10 07:01 < Flo_1> if it WORKS GOOD, its useful... but how do people know that it does?
2008-05-10 07:02 < ThePolecat> It just kills the atmosphere even further, imo.
2008-05-10 07:02 * ThePolecat inserts Strommie into the SC article
2008-05-10 07:03 < ThePolecat> But the politics section there is completely unsourced. And I'm afraid if I insert one more blatantly obvious fact, the whole section will be razed
2008-05-10 07:03 < ThePolecat> as if I was responsible for the lack of sources
2008-05-10 07:03 < ThePolecat> oh wait, there's one.
2008-05-10 07:07 < ThePolecat> the weird thing is that de.wiki has BOTH mandatory preview and that surveillance thing
2008-05-10 07:11 < ThePolecat> o.o someone translates "mining industry" as "Minenindustrie"... maybe surveillance is called for after all :-P
2008-05-10 07:11 < ThePolecat> brb
2008-05-10 07:14 < ThePolecat> "...eine Hierarchie von Gerichten mit dem Höchstgericht des Staates an der Spitze "
2008-05-10 07:15 < ThePolecat> I wish people would just stop translating if they don't know what they're doing
2008-05-10 07:15 < Flo_1> well we had some babelfish-crap on de.wp 9_9
2008-05-10 07:15 < Flo_1> wait...
2008-05-10 07:15 < ThePolecat> the word "Höchstgericht" is nonsensical.
2008-05-10 07:16 < ThePolecat> just like people don't seem to know the word Bergbau, or are too lazy to attempt anything but a completely literal translation
2008-05-10 07:16 < ThePolecat> morpheme-by-morpheme even
2008-05-10 07:16 < Flo_1> http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tequixquiac&diff=45548131&oldid=45547753 the stuff that is deleted in this edit for example
2008-05-10 07:17 < ThePolecat> oh, joy
2008-05-10 07:17 < ThePolecat> love the double prefix
2008-05-10 07:17 < ThePolecat> Brb.
2008-05-10 07:17 < Flo_1> well... lets translate bergbau with mountainbuilding XD
2008-05-10 07:19 < ThePolecat> but "Minenindustrie", wtf. I mean, explosions are involved, but not like that.
2008-05-10 07:19 * Flo_1 is going to get admin on en.wp and block users because of "not afterfullpullable duckfaring longerer textdowncuts" (JOKE!)
2008-05-10 07:20 < Flo_1> (but in german that block reason makes sense)
2008-05-10 07:20 < ThePolecat> love "afterfullpullable"
2008-05-10 07:21 * ThePolecat must uppull his waker, brb.
2008-05-10 07:22 < Flo_1> *lol*
2008-05-10 07:22 < ThePolecat> he is standig-stayed.
2008-05-10 07:22 < ThePolecat> *standing
2008-05-10 07:22 < Flo_1> *rofl* omg
2008-05-10 07:23 < Flo_1> thats usually called "Denglisch"
2008-05-10 07:23 < ThePolecat> I am not de-assing you.
2008-05-10 07:23 < Flo_1> in the serious reaaly not?
2008-05-10 07:23 < Flo_1> -a
2008-05-10 07:23 < ThePolecat> wait, "de-" is more like "ent-"
2008-05-10 07:23 < Flo_1> +l
2008-05-10 07:24 < ThePolecat> ver- is more like "be-"
2008-05-10 07:24 < ThePolecat> it'd be dog's-mean of me to do that.
2008-05-10 07:25 < ThePolecat> Really have to be right back.
2008-05-10 07:25 < Flo_1> yes, allthings :)
2008-05-10 07:26 < ThePolecat> eh, yea, unbethinged.
2008-05-10 07:29 < Flo_1> overings, it is not called "be right back" but "am equal again there" :DD
2008-05-10 07:30 < ThePolecat> "...ländlichen Gebiet im Norden und Westen des Unteren Halbinsels, und der Oberen Halbinsel mit Wildnis und Bergbau", well at least they got Bergbau right
2008-05-10 07:39 < yao_ziyuan> is nepal still a democratic and free country since the communist won in april?
2008-05-10 07:39 < yao_ziyuan> *s
2008-05-10 07:50 < ThePolecat> It has never been one.
2008-05-10 07:50 < ThePolecat> so that is bit of a loaded question
2008-05-10 07:51 < ThePolecat> we'll have to see.
2008-05-10 07:51 < ThePolecat> I think you can see it in the eastern states of India (WB, Orissa etc.)
2008-05-10 07:52 < ThePolecat> the communists have big stakes in government there, without it being a dictatorship
2008-05-10 08:00 < yao_ziyuan> good
2008-05-10 08:05 < Lucifer_Cat> Kerala
2008-05-10 08:09 < ThePolecat> That too.
2008-05-10 08:30 < |404NoTFounD|> any enwiki Sysops here?
2008-05-10 08:32 < Lucifer_Cat> 404: Not Found
2008-05-10 08:32 < Lucifer_Cat> The Sysops you were looking for cannot be located.
2008-05-10 08:33 < |404NoTFounD|> dammit
2008-05-10 08:33 < |404NoTFounD|> i need some help at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australian_Science_and_Mathematics_School
2008-05-10 08:37 < Lucifer_Cat> yay to osiris.
2008-05-10 08:37 < Lucifer_Cat> he fixed it. before me :P
2008-05-10 08:37 * Lucifer_Cat is slooooow :S
2008-05-10 08:39 < |404NoTFounD|> osiris is me :po
2008-05-10 08:40 < |404NoTFounD|> i need a block on those ips then
2008-05-10 08:40 < |404NoTFounD|> well the 129 one
2008-05-10 08:40 < |404NoTFounD|> its the school it self making those changes!
2008-05-10 08:40 < |404NoTFounD|> :p
2008-05-10 08:43 < Lucifer_Cat> |404NoTFounD|: no, its some student from the school
2008-05-10 08:43 < |404NoTFounD|> indeed
2008-05-10 08:43 < Lucifer_Cat> or a pissed off employee whos about to quit
2008-05-10 08:44 < Lucifer_Cat> try wikipedia-en
2008-05-10 08:44 < |404NoTFounD|> and being a student from said school, i dont like it
2008-05-10 08:44 < Lucifer_Cat> ofcourse
2008-05-10 08:45 < Lucifer_Cat> just put a note in the talk page saying you want the IP blocked and reason. also, give a link to that version of the page.
2008-05-10 08:45 < Lucifer_Cat> and ThePolecat you there?
2008-05-10 08:45 < |404NoTFounD|> already done
2008-05-10 08:46 < Lucifer_Cat> good. just try asking on #wikipedia-en
2008-05-10 08:46 < Lucifer_Cat> or asking here after it would be late enough for people wlth a life to have woken up
2008-05-10 08:46 < Lucifer_Cat> its pretty darn early atm
2008-05-10 08:47 < |404NoTFounD|> heh
2008-05-10 08:47 < |404NoTFounD|> 10:17PM here
2008-05-10 08:47 < Lucifer_Cat> i know :)
2008-05-10 08:47 < Lucifer_Cat> not even 8 here
2008-05-10 08:47 < |404NoTFounD|> how?
2008-05-10 08:47 < Lucifer_Cat> and not even 6 in cali
2008-05-10 08:47 < arcimboldo_> 9:47 pm
2008-05-10 08:48 < Lucifer_Cat> i guess since you go to that school, you must be an oz... and roughly around that time i guess
2008-05-10 08:48 < |404NoTFounD|> indeed
2008-05-10 08:48 < Lucifer_Cat> arcimboldo_: japanese?
2008-05-10 08:48 < Lucifer_Cat> or atleast stayin there?
2008-05-10 08:48 < arcimboldo_> sou desu ne
2008-05-10 08:49 < Lucifer_Cat> |404NoTFounD|: how much ahead are the kiwis?
2008-05-10 08:49 < |404NoTFounD|> like +12
2008-05-10 08:49 < Lucifer_Cat> arcimboldo_: only habla ingles
2008-05-10 08:49 < |404NoTFounD|> im at +9.30
2008-05-10 08:49 < Lucifer_Cat> no, i mean from you
2008-05-10 08:49 < arcimboldo_> mala suerte
2008-05-10 08:49 < Lucifer_Cat> ok
2008-05-10 08:50 < Lucifer_Cat> arcimboldo_: pardon?
2008-05-10 08:51 < Lucifer_Cat> NUTS Region Flag of Europe DE3
2008-05-10 08:52 < Lucifer_Cat> i lulled at that
2008-05-10 08:54 < |404NoTFounD|> indeed
2008-05-10 09:01 < Lucifer_Cat> loosifer cat is looose
2008-05-10 09:29 < yao_ziyuan> i just read an Asian Times commentary
2008-05-10 09:29 < yao_ziyuan> The Case for Invading Burma
2008-05-10 09:29 < yao_ziyuan> which says bush can save his pre-emptive war strategy's face by invading burma
2008-05-10 09:31 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-05-10 09:31 < yao_ziyuan> i'd like to see another neighbor of china turns color
2008-05-10 09:41 < bumm13>  
2008-05-10 10:02 * Werdna just went off to meet the girlfriend's family
2008-05-10 10:02 < Werdna> extended family
2008-05-10 10:17 < ThePolecat> good luck
2008-05-10 10:28 < Addshore> hmmm
2008-05-10 10:28 < Addshore> should stub tags go below categorys?
2008-05-10 10:29 < bumm13> I'd put them just above
2008-05-10 10:29 < Addshore> hmm AWB puts them below
2008-05-10 10:31 < bumm13> does it?
2008-05-10 10:31 < bumm13> it's not a major issue either way
2008-05-10 10:31 < Addshore> hmm ok
2008-05-10 10:31 < Addshore> because now when im doing general fixes whilst doing other bot tasks it keeps doing it
2008-05-10 10:31 < Addshore> i juts hope its right =]
2008-05-10 10:32 < Addshore> removing _'s from images and links e.t.c is right im sure
2008-05-10 10:32 < Addshore> changing External Links >> External links is also right i think
2008-05-10 11:01 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle|away
2008-05-10 11:04 < faDeFicar> hello
2008-05-10 11:06 * soufron hello
2008-05-10 11:08 < faDeFicar> i wondered where can i ask a question about a specific opensource project (related to develepment to an OS game)
2008-05-10 11:09 < faDeFicar> i know it's not the right place to ask, but i thought someone here can point me to a channel, or irc server
2008-05-10 11:10 < Lucifer_Cat> isnt there a channel for that game itself?
2008-05-10 11:11 < faDeFicar> well, i
2008-05-10 11:12 < faDeFicar> thought that you could point me to some specific 3d tuxracer-game-like channel or server
2008-05-10 11:15 < Lucifer_Cat> sorry, no idea... and no one else seems to be alive.
2008-05-10 11:17 < faDeFicar> ok, tnx
2008-05-10 11:39 < Aqwis> <faDeFicar> thought that you could point me to some specific 3d tuxracer-game-like channel or server
2008-05-10 11:39 < Aqwis> planet penguin racer i guess
2008-05-10 11:39 < Aqwis> i translated that game into norwegian >.<
2008-05-10 11:59 < quanticle> Aqwis: Planet Penguin Racer is the official successor to TuxRacer
2008-05-10 12:00 < Aqwis> official?
2008-05-10 12:00 < Aqwis> tuxracer was commercial, PPracer isn't
2008-05-10 12:01 < quanticle> Aqwis: Really? It was? I thought TuxRacer was always open source. I know that TuxRacer came with on one of my old Slackware systems.
2008-05-10 12:01 < Aqwis> commercial, but not proprietary afaik
2008-05-10 12:01 < quanticle> Ah. Ok.
2008-05-10 12:15 < Mike5> "... that males of the White-winged Fairy-wren carry petals of contrasting colours to attract females other than their spouses for extra-marital mating?"
2008-05-10 12:18 < bumm13> hahaha
2008-05-10 12:18 < bumm13> maybe someone from Conservapedia edited that section :P
2008-05-10 12:20 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-05-10 12:21 < Messedrocker> WE GO PLAY HOOP
2008-05-10 12:21 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Your turn on the two-player Ancient Greece map.
2008-05-10 12:22 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Your turn on the three-player Ancient Greece map.
2008-05-10 12:36 < ogrisel> Hi, do you no whether it's possible to subscribe somewhere to notifications whenever an article is edited? By notifications I mean either emails or some kind of RSS feed.
2008-05-10 12:36 < quanticle> ogrisel: Add the article to your watchlist. I believe you can get a RSS feed of that.
2008-05-10 12:37 < ogrisel> yes but I what I want notifications on any article
2008-05-10 12:38 < quanticle> ogrisel: Then tune in to the Recent Changes IRC channel.
2008-05-10 12:38 < ogrisel> I want to do some machine learning on the current semantic trend of the humanity
2008-05-10 12:38 < ogrisel> great, whats the channel id exactly?
2008-05-10 12:41 < quanticle> ogrisel: Its #en.wikipedia on irc.wikimedia.org
2008-05-10 12:41 < ogrisel> ok great, thx quanticle
2008-05-10 12:46 * Lubaf looks at the topic.
2008-05-10 12:46 < Lubaf> How about gossiping about other wikipedians in front of their face?
2008-05-10 12:47 < quanticle> Lubaf: That is 100% 50/50 acceptable
2008-05-10 12:47 < quanticle> Speaking of which,
2008-05-10 12:51 < ogrisel> quanticle, another question: how to grab diffs under a machine readable format (let say XML)? And to dowload the diffs of a large period, let say over the last 5 years?
2008-05-10 12:52 < ogrisel> I suppose web scrapping is 100% 50/50 prohibited too:)
2008-05-10 12:52 < Flo_1> slow? all wikipedias? or "just some" projects? i had that this morning :( i wanted to edit my monobook.js , searched something and didnt find it, searched, searched... until i discovered half of the page & all buttons were miising...
2008-05-10 12:52 < quanticle> ogrisel: No idea on either. I'm not sure that there is a good machine-readable format for wikipedia.
2008-05-10 12:52 < Flo_1> *missing
2008-05-10 12:53 < quanticle> ogrisel: Yeah. Web scraping is frowned upon.
2008-05-10 12:53 < quanticle> Flo_1: No. The status just describes the state of the channel, not Wikipedia.
2008-05-10 12:53 < Flo_1> oh
2008-05-10 12:53 * quanticle should really come up with a color system for that
2008-05-10 12:57 < Alkivar> suitibly random... and a color code
2008-05-10 12:57 < Alkivar> hows that
2008-05-10 12:57 < quanticle> Ooh. Nice.
2008-05-10 12:57 < quanticle> Once Ceiling_Cat shows up, I'll change the status to Caturday
2008-05-10 12:58 < Alkivar> k
2008-05-10 12:58 < Alkivar> then again isnt everyday caturday?
2008-05-10 12:59 < quanticle> Alkivar: Only in /b/. Outside the 'net slums, Caturday is only one day a week.
2008-05-10 12:59 < Alkivar> ahhh
2008-05-10 13:19 < quanticle> Huh. Apparently MSN Messenger is blocking people from sending YouTube links.
2008-05-10 13:20 < bumm13> that's really retarded
2008-05-10 13:20 < bumm13> easy enough to get around, but annoying
2008-05-10 13:21 < Messedrocker> and it reeks of throwing hissy fits
2008-05-10 13:21 < nsh> wtf
2008-05-10 13:21 < bumm13> like Ballmer himself :-)
2008-05-10 13:21 * Messedrocker throws a chair at bumm13 then threatens to Fucking Kill hin
2008-05-10 13:21 < Messedrocker> him*
2008-05-10 13:22 < bumm13> excuse me?
2008-05-10 13:22 < Messedrocker> ballmer reference
2008-05-10 13:22 < bumm13> parody, I hope ;)
2008-05-10 13:22 < Messedrocker> he threw a chair across the room once
2008-05-10 13:22 < bumm13> heh
2008-05-10 13:22 < Messedrocker> and then he threatened to Fucking Kill someone
2008-05-10 13:22 < bumm13> what a tough guy
2008-05-10 13:22 < bumm13> the chair couldn't fight back
2008-05-10 13:22 < nsh> hrmmms
2008-05-10 13:22 * Messedrocker wonders when Lucifer Cat will come online
2008-05-10 13:22 < nsh> i think the doctrine of eminent domain should be extended to intellectual property and corporate assets
2008-05-10 13:23 < nsh> and immediately applied to microsoft
2008-05-10 13:23 < nsh> (to the public, not the government, of course)
2008-05-10 13:24 < quanticle> Messedrocker: The original story was, when one of Microsoft's developers announced he was leaving, Ballmer called him in for an exit interview. At some point during the interview, the developer mentioned that he was leaving for Google. After hearing that, Ballmer shouted, "I'm going to fucking bury those guys. I've done it before and I'll do it again!" and threw a chair across the room.
2008-05-10 13:24 < bumm13> heh
2008-05-10 13:25 < quanticle> bumm13: Yeah. The end of that interview must have been... awkward.
2008-05-10 13:25 < bumm13> indeed
2008-05-10 13:25 < Messedrocker> quanticle, when he did say he was going to fucking kill someone?
2008-05-10 13:26 < quanticle> Messedrocker: He never said he was going to "fucking kill someone", he said he was going to "fucking bury those guys". It just turned into the former through repetition.
2008-05-10 13:26 < bumm13> telephone, ring ring!
2008-05-10 13:27 < bumm13> the telephony effect ;)
2008-05-10 13:27 < gwern> listen girls, I've got a big job for you this time!
2008-05-10 13:27 * Messedrocker can't wait until Lucifer Cat comes on so he can kick his ass at Risk
2008-05-10 13:27 < quanticle> bumm13: Indeed.
2008-05-10 13:27 < nsh> risk the board game, online?
2008-05-10 13:27 < quanticle> nsh: Something close to it.
2008-05-10 13:28 < nsh> fair'nuff
2008-05-10 13:28 < Messedrocker> it's a ton of fun
2008-05-10 13:28 < Messedrocker> it's MY KINDA GAME!
2008-05-10 13:29 < quanticle> Huh. Well, according to /whois, Lucifer_Cat is still here.
2008-05-10 13:29 < Messedrocker> yeah he's probably afk or something
2008-05-10 13:30 < Messedrocker> i like your comment about how this is a reprise of the trojan war :)
2008-05-10 13:30 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-05-10 13:30 < quanticle> I also remember how the Trojan War ended.
2008-05-10 13:30 < Messedrocker> :)
2008-05-10 13:30 < Messedrocker> hail cronus! hail priapus!
2008-05-10 13:31 * Messedrocker sacrifices 20 sheep to each
2008-05-10 13:31 < bumm13> hail priapism!
2008-05-10 13:32 < Lucifer_Cat> talkin about me behind my back heh
2008-05-10 13:32 < Messedrocker> lucy!!!
2008-05-10 13:33 < Lucifer_Cat> messy!!
2008-05-10 13:33 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: We weren't talking behind your back. You were logged in.
2008-05-10 13:33 < Lucifer_Cat> wtf is tangelo
2008-05-10 13:33 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: A color, obviously.
2008-05-10 13:34 * quanticle and Alkivar implemented a color code system for status
2008-05-10 13:35 * bumm13 issues a Sepia Alert
2008-05-10 13:36 < nsh> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fisk/robert-fisk-hizbollah-rules-west-beirut-in-irans-proxy-war-with-us-825430.html
2008-05-10 13:36 < Messedrocker> Lucifer_Cat, your turn on greece
2008-05-10 13:36 < nsh> There Will Be War :-/
2008-05-10 13:36 < Lucifer_Cat> THERE WILL BE <redacted>
2008-05-10 13:37 * Cream huggles everyone
2008-05-10 13:37 * quanticle is screwed in his two-player battle against Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-10 13:38 * Cream cuddles quanticle
2008-05-10 13:38 * quanticle cuddles Cream
2008-05-10 13:39 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: i screwed up actually.
2008-05-10 13:39 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: How so?
2008-05-10 13:39 < quanticle> I think you did rather well.
2008-05-10 13:39 < Lucifer_Cat> moved all my armies from macedonia to thasos... and i cant attack from there to thrace
2008-05-10 13:39 * Cream counts his edits
2008-05-10 13:40 < quanticle> Oh. Whoops
2008-05-10 13:40 < Lucifer_Cat> against a better opponent, this might have been a deadly mistake
2008-05-10 13:40 * Sasquatch edits his counts
2008-05-10 13:40 < quanticle> I didn't notice that.
2008-05-10 13:40 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Against a better opponent, you would have never taken Athens.
2008-05-10 13:41 < Cream> 3924
2008-05-10 13:42 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: not really. i saw your intentions in athens and instead of going for minor asia, i postponed it for a couple rounds and piled up in athens and pre-emptively weakened your strike force
2008-05-10 13:43 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: im mostly gonna die in the 3 player greece map. want an alliance to hold off Messedrocker?
2008-05-10 13:44 < Lucifer_Cat> i have a plan i can reveal to your advantage
2008-05-10 13:44 < Messedrocker> :(
2008-05-10 13:44 < Messedrocker> i feel just like Fast Lizard
2008-05-10 13:44 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Sure.
2008-05-10 13:45 < Messedrocker> quanticle, Lucifer_Cat, be sure to declare your union in the in-game chat
2008-05-10 13:45 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Finish our two-player Greece map.
2008-05-10 13:45 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Will-do
2008-05-10 13:46 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: check notice. and PM me.
2008-05-10 13:47 < toresbe> is there a list of articles by number of edits?
2008-05-10 13:47 < Cream> yup
2008-05-10 13:47 < Messedrocker> lucy, when are you going to make your move
2008-05-10 13:47 < toresbe> what's it called?
2008-05-10 13:48 < Cream> i forgot
2008-05-10 13:48 < Cream> but there is one
2008-05-10 13:49 * quanticle goes and reads Marginal Revolution
2008-05-10 13:49 < Lucifer_Cat> wooot blue badge
2008-05-10 13:49 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: did you get my notice?
2008-05-10 13:49 < WBOSITG> aloha
2008-05-10 13:49 * Lucifer_Cat buries WBOSITG ... old or not, im fucking burying you.
2008-05-10 13:49 < Messedrocker> blue badge of courage?
2008-05-10 13:49 < WBOSITG> ...?
2008-05-10 13:49 < WBOSITG> o...k
2008-05-10 13:50 < Demi> Welcome Back, Ozymandias, Suck In This Generation
2008-05-10 13:51 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I did, but my PM to you didn't go through, apparently. Let me try again.
2008-05-10 13:52 < Lucifer_Cat> grrr .... Messedrocker, black magic.
2008-05-10 13:52 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: blue badge of kicking ass
2008-05-10 13:52 < Lucifer_Cat> 5 games unbeaten
2008-05-10 13:52 < Messedrocker> Priapus is with us! Cronus is with us!
2008-05-10 13:52 < Messedrocker> Hail!
2008-05-10 13:53 < Messedrocker> No one seems to find it odd that I've designated my state deities as the deposed ruler of the gods and the god of penises
2008-05-10 13:53 * Lucifer_Cat grubmles something about greek gods and Hades being on vacation just when i fucking needed him
2008-05-10 13:54 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I can't seem to send you any PMs.
2008-05-10 13:54 < Demi> the real hades or the james woods hades?
2008-05-10 13:54 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: ok...
2008-05-10 13:55 < Messedrocker> james woods played Hades in a movie?
2008-05-10 13:59 < Lucifer_Cat> Rank: Private 1st Class Private 1st Class
2008-05-10 14:00 < Lucifer_Cat> take that you pedestrian privates. not to mention 5inchers :P
2008-05-10 14:00 < Alkivar> http://xo.typepad.com/blog/2008/05/video-armoured.html <-- NO WONDER WE'RE FAILING IN IRAQ!
2008-05-10 14:00 < Messedrocker> quanty, make your move
2008-05-10 14:00 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Ok. Give me a few minutes.
2008-05-10 14:01 < L0tQfL0lsx> hello
2008-05-10 14:02 < Lucifer_Cat> hi.
2008-05-10 14:02 * Lucifer_Cat watches
2008-05-10 14:03 < L0tQfL0lsx> can I get help on a poem here?
2008-05-10 14:03 < nsh> what's the name of the mountain covered in dead white guys?
2008-05-10 14:03 < L0tQfL0lsx> please
2008-05-10 14:03 < Alkivar> sure
2008-05-10 14:03 < Alkivar> what poem?
2008-05-10 14:03 < nsh> i'd just ask, L0tQfL0lsx
2008-05-10 14:03 < L0tQfL0lsx> http://www.antiromantic.com/poem_prophet.asp
2008-05-10 14:04 < L0tQfL0lsx> the prophet by Abrahm Cowley
2008-05-10 14:04 * Lucifer_Cat groans... something tells me thats not gonna be a good click
2008-05-10 14:04 < Alkivar> ok whats the question?
2008-05-10 14:04 < L0tQfL0lsx> I got to figure out the meaning of it
2008-05-10 14:05 < L0tQfL0lsx> I search for it but no annotation came up
2008-05-10 14:05 < Alkivar> to sum it up for you in a sentance
2008-05-10 14:05 < Alkivar> "you cannot teach the meaning of love, you must experience it firsthand"
2008-05-10 14:06 < Mm40> r u asking for home work help here?
2008-05-10 14:06 < Demi> assuming this is an assignment, doesn't looking up "the answer" kind of defeat the purpose?
2008-05-10 14:06 < Alkivar> demi: poetry analysis is such an idiotic assignment because there is no "correct" answer
2008-05-10 14:07 < L0tQfL0lsx> The assignment is writing a 3 page essay on that crap
2008-05-10 14:07 < Lucifer_Cat> Demi: spoken like a true middle aged parent.
2008-05-10 14:07 < Alkivar> each poem is going to mean different things to different people
2008-05-10 14:07 < Lucifer_Cat> Alkivar: the point of the assignment is to think about it yourself.
2008-05-10 14:07 < Alkivar> Lucifer_Cat: and how does my one sentance summary stop that from happening?
2008-05-10 14:08 < Lucifer_Cat> as in, yeah the poem means different thing to everyone... but its tthe process of analysis thats important
2008-05-10 14:08 < L0tQfL0lsx> I did but the teacher said my answer was "not specific enough"
2008-05-10 14:08 < Demi> Alkivar - that's why "the answer" is in quotes
2008-05-10 14:08 < Demi> Lucifer_Cat - i don't know what that's supposed to mean
2008-05-10 14:08 < Lucifer_Cat> Alkivar: i didnt say you did his assignment for him
2008-05-10 14:08 < Lucifer_Cat> Demi: which part
2008-05-10 14:08 < Alkivar> the point to poetry is to read it for pleasure... assignments to analyse it are meaningless
2008-05-10 14:09 < Demi> Lucifer_Cat - "[11:07:06] Lucifer_Cat: Demi: spoken like a true middle aged parent."
2008-05-10 14:09 < Messedrocker> and stupid, because people really easily overanalyze
2008-05-10 14:09 < Alkivar> no one can understand what the author truely meant without talking to the author
2008-05-10 14:09 < Messedrocker> i've heard all sorts of wacky analyses for things
2008-05-10 14:09 < Lucifer_Cat> Demi: its pretty self explanatory
2008-05-10 14:09 < Alkivar> and even then the meanings can change!
2008-05-10 14:09 < Demi> haha, right, there is no pleasure in analysis
2008-05-10 14:09 < Messedrocker> i mean if a dude writes a poem about his woman, who says there's any meaning behind it besides his woman?
2008-05-10 14:09 < Alkivar> who says theres any meaning to it except to the person it was written for
2008-05-10 14:10 < Alkivar> or for the one who wrote it
2008-05-10 14:10 < quanticle> nsh: Are you talking about Mount Rushmore?
2008-05-10 14:10 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: almost any poem on love without sex is taken up by nuts to be either some forbidden love, imaginary love, god and crack
2008-05-10 14:10 < Demi> the dark lady is a dude!!
2008-05-10 14:10 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Don't forget the poems about war, dude.
2008-05-10 14:10 < Messedrocker> someday, i will write a poem and ask people to analyze it
2008-05-10 14:10 < Messedrocker> and then i will embarrass them by telling thme what it is about
2008-05-10 14:11 < L0tQfL0lsx> Alkivar thanks for your help
2008-05-10 14:11 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I'm pretty sure you'll have trouble finding any "forbidden love" in "Charge of the Light Brigade"
2008-05-10 14:11 < Messedrocker> like, i will write a poem about something like Gray's Papaya
2008-05-10 14:11 < Alkivar> your welcome
2008-05-10 14:11 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: i'll print it out on a scroll with wooden rods and analize you with it
2008-05-10 14:11 < Alkivar> quite frankly i think your teacher is a moron if he says you werent specific enough