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2008-05-09 20:04 < Alkivar> they were insane when living... so that fails
2008-05-09 20:05 < quanticle> Anyway
2008-05-09 20:05 * quanticle off for dinner
2008-05-09 20:05 * Mike_H NP: Henry Gross - Shannon (1976)
2008-05-09 20:05 < Mike_H> fun fact: "Shannon" was written for the artist's dead dog.
2008-05-09 20:05 < SynergeticMag> man, whats up with your music taste Mike_H?
2008-05-09 20:06 < Gracenotes> I wish I had some philosophical truths to ponder about being left-handed.
2008-05-09 20:06 < Mike_H> SynergeticMag: I love '70s :<
2008-05-09 20:07 < Gracenotes> the social ramifications. the stereotypes.
2008-05-09 20:07 < SynergeticMag> yeah i'm more into the 80's i guess
2008-05-09 20:07 < Gracenotes> but none really exist to ruminate :(
2008-05-09 20:07 < Mike_H> He produced a single, "Shannon", a song written about the passing of Beach Boy Carl Wilson's Samoyed (dog) of the same name. The single went gold and became a worldwide hit, reaching #6 on the USA charts in 1976.
2008-05-09 20:07 < Mike_H> sorry, it was for Carl Wilson's dog.
2008-05-09 20:07 < Mike_H> carry on.
2008-05-09 20:07 < SynergeticMag> Gracenotes: metaphorical left hand or "your right hand"?
2008-05-09 20:08 < SynergeticMag> brb
2008-05-09 20:08 < Alkivar> WONKA: A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.
2008-05-09 20:08 < Alkivar> Bartlett's Quotations lists this as Anonymous, but suggests a possible source in:
2008-05-09 20:08 < Alkivar> Letter to Sir Horace Mann, 1774
2008-05-09 20:08 < Alkivar> by Horace Walpole [1717-1797]
2008-05-09 20:08 < Alkivar> A careless song, with a little nonsense in it now and then,
2008-05-09 20:08 < Alkivar> does not misbecome a monarch.
2008-05-09 20:09 < Gracenotes> SynergeticMag: I literally pen words using the extremity attached to my left arm.
2008-05-09 20:09 < Mike_H> Alkivar: hm, this is weird, do you remember this?
2008-05-09 20:09 < SynergeticMag> uh
2008-05-09 20:09 < Mike_H> "Shannon" is remembered for being the subject of a profanity-laced tirade by American Top 40 radio show host Casey Kasem while recording an episode of the show in 1985. A listener had requested "Shannon" as a "Long Distance Dedication" (a regular feature of the show) to his own recently-deceased dog.
2008-05-09 20:09 < SynergeticMag> ok
2008-05-09 20:09 < SynergeticMag> :0
2008-05-09 20:09 < Alkivar> Also compare:
2008-05-09 20:09 < Alkivar> Carmina (IV, 12, 27)
2008-05-09 20:09 < Alkivar> by Horace (Quintus Horatius Flaccus) [65-8 B.C.]
2008-05-09 20:09 < Alkivar> Misce stultitiam consiliis brevem: Dulce est desipere in loco.
2008-05-09 20:09 < Alkivar> (Translation: Mingle a little folly with your wisdom; a little nonsense now and then is pleasant.)
2008-05-09 20:09 < Mike_H> Kasem was upset that the show's producers had placed the dedication immediately following the Pointer Sisters' hit "Dare Me", an up-tempo song that Kasem considered a poor lead-in to a sad song like "Shannon".
2008-05-09 20:09 < Alkivar> so it goes back to ancient Rome
2008-05-09 20:09 < Alkivar> how's that for little known facts :P
2008-05-09 20:09 < Gracenotes> Mike_H, continuing in his goal to eventually copy all of Wikipedia into IRC :)
2008-05-09 20:10 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: nice beard!
2008-05-09 20:10 < Mike_H> HOOT!
2008-05-09 20:10 * SynergeticMag can't wait for his ice cream to get here
2008-05-09 20:11 < SynergeticMag> cotton candy ice cream!
2008-05-09 20:11 < NoPegs> I always questioned the logic of bubble gum flavored ice cream...
2008-05-09 20:11 < SynergeticMag> as long as it tastes good :)
2008-05-09 20:11 < SynergeticMag> i haven't had ice cream in weeks
2008-05-09 20:12 < NoPegs> I thought, why not take it further... Think like chocolate chip cookie dough... put pieces of bubble gum in it...
2008-05-09 20:12 < Tesfan> um
2008-05-09 20:12 < Tesfan> eww
2008-05-09 20:12 < Tesfan> lol
2008-05-09 20:12 < NoPegs> See!
2008-05-09 20:14 * SynergeticMag NP: Pink Floyd - Wish you were here
2008-05-09 20:15 < Alkivar> i go even further
2008-05-09 20:15 < Alkivar> how about maple bacon flavored ice cream
2008-05-09 20:15 < Alkivar> with little bacon chips
2008-05-09 20:15 < Alkivar> yuuuuummm
2008-05-09 20:15 < Cream> yes Alkivar?
2008-05-09 20:15 < SynergeticMag> bacon....
2008-05-09 20:15 < SynergeticMag> Cream: don't look
2008-05-09 20:15 < Alkivar> vanilla ice cream with a maple syrup swirl and little bacon bits...
2008-05-09 20:15 < Cream> lol
2008-05-09 20:15 < Alkivar> you know that shit would be fucking awesome
2008-05-09 20:16 < NoPegs> I never enjoyed maple flavor in a meat product though...
2008-05-09 20:16 < SynergeticMag> i'll stick to my cotton candy ice cream
2008-05-09 20:16 < Cream> *sigh*
2008-05-09 20:16 < Invisible_Cat> there
2008-05-09 20:16 < Invisible_Cat> no more pointless pinging
2008-05-09 20:26 < Mike_H> Pregnant with number 18
2008-05-09 20:26 < Mike_H> Michelle Duggar, 41, is expecting her 18th child on New Year's Day.
2008-05-09 20:26 < Mike_H> God, can't they sew her shut or something?
2008-05-09 20:28 < Invisible_Cat> Thank god!
2008-05-09 20:28 < Invisible_Cat> i'm less worried now
2008-05-09 20:29 < White_Cat> Mike_H or
2008-05-09 20:29 < White_Cat> send her to austria
2008-05-09 20:29 < White_Cat> I am sure she would like it
2008-05-09 20:29 < White_Cat> (41-20)/18 = 1.166667
2008-05-09 20:30 < White_Cat> about 1 child per year
2008-05-09 20:30 < Tesfan> wow
2008-05-09 20:32 < Gracenotes> probably some where twins or more
2008-05-09 20:32 < bumm13> Mike_H: she probably looks more like 61 ;p
2008-05-09 20:33 < bumm13> haha, from the San Francisco Chronicle website:
2008-05-09 20:33 < Gracenotes> *were. argh, what's with my spelling tonight
2008-05-09 20:33 < bumm13> "God Does Not Want 16 Kids --- Arkansas mom gives birth to a whole freakin' baseball team. How deeply should you cringe?"
2008-05-09 20:34 < Tesfan> xD
2008-05-09 20:34 < Alkivar> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1210379232058.jpg <-- FUCK I WISH THAT WAS MINE
2008-05-09 20:34 < bumm13> (from two years ago)
2008-05-09 20:34 < Mike_H> bumm13: TLC eats that shit up
2008-05-09 20:35 < Mike_H> first it's the mixed family with the sextuplets
2008-05-09 20:35 < Mike_H> then it's the midgets
2008-05-09 20:35 < Mike_H> and then it's the Duggars and their litter.
2008-05-09 20:35 < Tesfan> daaaaaaaamn, that is FINE
2008-05-09 20:38 < bumm13> "Note to Michelle Duggar: If God wanted you to have a massive pile of children, she'd have given your uterus a hydraulic pump and a revolving door. Stop it now."
2008-05-09 20:40 < Mike_H> rofl
2008-05-09 20:40 < Mike_H> one of these days, her uterus is just gonna fall out with her last crotch dropping.
2008-05-09 20:40 < bumm13> I get tired of saying "it was God's will" just because God didn't prevent something stupid from happening ;p
2008-05-09 20:40 < bumm13> Mike_H: she won't *need* a hysterectomy ;p
2008-05-09 20:40 < bumm13> it'll just fall into her drawers one day :x
2008-05-09 20:41 < bumm13> (sorry for bad mental image)
2008-05-09 20:41 < FastLizard4> Accountcreator dosen't by chance allow you to create accounts like admins can, does it?
2008-05-09 20:41 < Demi> if 18 is too many, what is the permissible limit?
2008-05-09 20:41 < FastLizard4> I'm approving a surprising number of accounts submitted to ACC
2008-05-09 20:41 < bumm13> 7 x 7 to the seventh power
2008-05-09 20:41 < bumm13> from the sevenfold spirit of baby-blessings
2008-05-09 20:42 < bumm13> the "1" on the baby odometer should have no other digits than 0
2008-05-09 20:42 < bumm13> (that's a good absolute max limit)
2008-05-09 20:42 < bumm13> *"1" gear
2008-05-09 20:43 < Demi> you're saying double digits is too many?
2008-05-09 20:43 < bumm13> (tens place)
2008-05-09 20:43 < denelson83> bumm13: 5,764,801
2008-05-09 20:43 < bumm13> 01 would've been fine but it's too late for those people
2008-05-09 20:43 < bumm13> thanks denelson83
2008-05-09 20:43 < Demi> maybe they were using hexadecimal
2008-05-09 20:43 < bumm13> heh
2008-05-09 20:43 < bumm13> FF? :x
2008-05-09 20:44 < denelson83> bumm13: 57F6C1
2008-05-09 20:44 < bumm13> those people in Texas don't even have 255 kids ;p
2008-05-09 20:45 < bumm13> I think my great-grandmother had 17 childbirths (maybe), but they didn't all live even past 2
2008-05-09 20:45 < Messedrocker> EVERYONE
2008-05-09 20:45 < denelson83> What about your great-grandfather? :s
2008-05-09 20:45 < bumm13> or maybe "just" 17 pregnancies
2008-05-09 20:46 < Messedrocker> Go to your graphing calculators and plot y = sinx^x
2008-05-09 20:46 < Messedrocker> you will be AMAZED
2008-05-09 20:46 < bumm13> he never got pregnant, to my knowledge
2008-05-09 20:46 * Mike_H NP: Hanson - Where's the Love (1997)
2008-05-09 20:46 < Mike_H> yeah, bitches
2008-05-09 20:46 < Mike_H> I went there
2008-05-09 20:46 < Mike_H> what.
2008-05-09 20:46 < denelson83> (sin x)^x or sin (x^x)?
2008-05-09 20:46 < Messedrocker> y = sinx^x
2008-05-09 20:46 < Messedrocker> just that
2008-05-09 20:46 < denelson83> ambiguous
2008-05-09 20:46 < bumm13> you have (sin d) against the Lord!
2008-05-09 20:46 < Mike_H> haw haw.
2008-05-09 20:47 < denelson83> (sin x)^x or sin (x^x)?!
2008-05-09 20:47 < Messedrocker> i think (sin x)^x
2008-05-09 20:48 < denelson83> equally unimpressive
2008-05-09 20:48 < denelson83> FAIL
2008-05-09 20:48 < Messedrocker> just do
2008-05-09 20:48 < Messedrocker> y=sinx^x
2008-05-09 20:48 < denelson83> Messedrocker: EPIC FAIL
2008-05-09 20:49 < denelson83> Next: plot y = u ^ s ^ u*c*k
2008-05-09 20:49 < Messedrocker> you can't just put y="sinx^x" into your graphing calculator?
2008-05-09 20:49 < Not_the_NSA> someone most likely American: doubt it but see if you can figure out the song from a text based tune :D ....classic rock song.... naaaa naa nanana nanananananana nanana
2008-05-09 20:49 < Not_the_NSA> Messedrocker: perhaps ^
2008-05-09 20:49 < Messedrocker> no
2008-05-09 20:50 < Messedrocker> someone create a monster equation for me to enter into this graphing calculator
2008-05-09 20:50 < denelson83> Messedrocker: Now find a way to plot the Mandelbrot Set on your graphing calculator
2008-05-09 20:50 < Not_the_NSA> Messedrocker: what calc model?
2008-05-09 20:51 < Messedrocker> Not_the_NSA, I am actually using "Grapher"
2008-05-09 20:51 < Messedrocker> which comes with Mac OS X
2008-05-09 20:51 < Not_the_NSA> o_o
2008-05-09 20:51 < Messedrocker> though in my backpack i have a TI 89 Titanium
2008-05-09 20:51 * Not_the_NSA has the TI-83+
2008-05-09 20:51 * denelson83 has a TI-89 Titanium
2008-05-09 20:51 < Demi> In [[Quiverfull]], "See also: [[Antifeminism]]"
2008-05-09 20:52 < Demi> also, that article is really ugly
2008-05-09 20:52 < NoPegs> {{sofixit}} ?
2008-05-09 20:53 < White_Cat> Demi you are antiantifeminist?
2008-05-09 20:53 < Demi> NoPegs - can't be arsed
2008-05-09 20:53 < Messedrocker> denelson83, don't you agree that the TI-89 Titanium is the master of all graphing calculators?
2008-05-09 20:53 < Demi> White_Cat - maybe
2008-05-09 20:53 < White_Cat> or maybe
2008-05-09 20:53 < denelson83> I also like the HP-50g+
2008-05-09 20:53 < White_Cat> You are antiantiantiantifeminist?
2008-05-09 20:53 < NoPegs> Slide rule > transistor based calculator!
2008-05-09 20:53 < denelson83> But I don't have one of those, so TI-89 Titanium it is
2008-05-09 20:54 < denelson83> NoPegs: Circular slide rule > slide rule
2008-05-09 20:54 < Demi> HP means Reverse Pollock Bollockery
2008-05-09 20:54 < denelson83> No: Reverth Polith Lithp
2008-05-09 20:54 < White_Cat> denelson83 you any good with .css?
2008-05-09 20:54 < denelson83> Maybe a bit - try me
2008-05-09 20:55 < Demi> reverse lisp would be kind of weird
2008-05-09 20:55 < Demi> like the german of lisp dialects
2008-05-09 20:55 < NoPegs> Germany invaded poland... :)
2008-05-09 20:55 < denelson83> That's the language HP graphing calculators use - Reverse Polish Lisp
2008-05-09 20:55 < denelson83> I shit you not
2008-05-09 20:55 < Demi> do they have reverse cons and stuff?
2008-05-09 20:55 < NoPegs> The german state may have a claim to polish notation now...
2008-05-09 20:55 < denelson83> In Soviet Russia, notation Polish you!
2008-05-09 20:56 < Messedrocker> y = (x / ((x/x root of x)^x)^x
2008-05-09 20:56 < Messedrocker> try that
2008-05-09 20:56 < Messedrocker> it's interesting looking
2008-05-09 20:57 < Demi> my graphic calculator has no batteries
2008-05-09 20:57 < denelson83> = (x / ((x / x^1/x)^x)^x
2008-05-09 20:57 < denelson83> = (x / ((x / x^1/x)^x^2
2008-05-09 20:58 * denelson83 is trying to simplify
2008-05-09 20:58 * denelson83 opens MathType
2008-05-09 20:58 * denelson83 fails
2008-05-09 20:58 < Leslie_S> so how hard is it to get a hazmat endorsement on my commercial drivers license anyway?
2008-05-09 20:59 < denelson83> impossible
2008-05-09 20:59 < Leslie_S> i know it takes all sorts of bullshitty homeland security nonsense
2008-05-09 20:59 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S, why do you want a hazmat endorsement
2008-05-09 20:59 < denelson83> You have to talk to the law office of Rothschild and Rockefeller
2008-05-09 20:59 < bumm13> ...
2008-05-09 20:59 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker so i could make more money :P
2008-05-09 20:59 < Gracenotes> well that was a delicious bunch of smoked almonds
2008-05-09 21:00 * denelson83 bunches Gracenotes' almond
2008-05-09 21:00 < bumm13> Leslie_S - I know a fairly stupid person who has hazmat certification (I think)
2008-05-09 21:00 < bumm13> if he can do it, you can
2008-05-09 21:00 < Leslie_S> bumm13 the test is easy as hell. the problem is the homeland security bull
2008-05-09 21:00 < bumm13> what does that entail?
2008-05-09 21:00 < quanticle|away> Messedrocker: Its obviously because she's a terr'rist and want to crash a large tanker full of hazardous chemicals in to the White House :P
2008-05-09 21:00 < Leslie_S> hell, even the tests just to be able to drive an 80,000lb deathtrap is easy as hell
2008-05-09 21:01 < Demi> Leslie_S - are those practical tests?
2008-05-09 21:01 < bumm13> Washington, DC is as close to me as London is to Bucharest, roughly
2008-05-09 21:01 < denelson83> Leslie_S: 36 tonnes
2008-05-09 21:01 < Leslie_S> Demi im talking about the written tests. to be honest, the driving tests are a little less of a joke, but still silly.
2008-05-09 21:01 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S, you could run your own business!
2008-05-09 21:01 < bumm13> (separated by many mountains and gigantic corn fields)
2008-05-09 21:01 < Messedrocker> "Leslie S's Haz-Mat Transport Services"
2008-05-09 21:01 < Messedrocker> "Based outta New Jersey!"
2008-05-09 21:01 < bumm13> bada-bing bada-boom!
2008-05-09 21:01 < quanticle> Messedrocker: And go out of business in the same day due to high fuel prices.
2008-05-09 21:01 < Leslie_S> denelson83 i refuse to use tons or tonnes on irc because of dipshits that think metric and american tons are the same thing, thereby having no clue what im talking about.
2008-05-09 21:01 < Demi> the written tests are probably like "When are you supposed to stop at scales?" and "Taking crack? Circle yes or no."
2008-05-09 21:02 < Leslie_S> i prefer to use thousands of pounds.
2008-05-09 21:02 < denelson83> Leslie_S: Pounds are illegal
2008-05-09 21:02 < Leslie_S> ...
2008-05-09 21:02 < denelson83> Then use megagrams
2008-05-09 21:02 < bumm13> megagrams, roffle
2008-05-09 21:02 < Leslie_S> denelson83 how about i use pounds?
2008-05-09 21:02 < Leslie_S> im american, ill use standard if i want to.
2008-05-09 21:02 * denelson83 pounds Leslie_S on the head with an anvil
2008-05-09 21:02 * bumm13 prefers megatron
2008-05-09 21:03 * Leslie_S runs over denelson83's car with an 80,000lb deathtrap
2008-05-09 21:03 < Demi> europeans are congenitally bad at math, thus the need to simplify to powers of ten
2008-05-09 21:03 * denelson83 escaped. Meep! Meep!
2008-05-09 21:03 < quanticle> bumm13: Is Megatron really 10^6 times worse than Tron?
2008-05-09 21:03 < Leslie_S> I like metric, but when people are going to insist that i use it, im not going to.
2008-05-09 21:03 < Demi> quanticle - it's a million times tron-ier
2008-05-09 21:03 < White_Cat> denelson83
2008-05-09 21:03 < denelson83> What?
2008-05-09 21:03 < Leslie_S> and i refuse to use tons on irc because of the idiots that think all tons are the same.
2008-05-09 21:03 < quanticle> Demi: Really? Megatron?
2008-05-09 21:03 < White_Cat> I am trying to copy the hide/show mechanism to commons
2008-05-09 21:03 < denelson83> "tons" is just "snot" spelled backwards
2008-05-09 21:03 < LOUD_CAT> White_Cat - LOUDER!!!
2008-05-09 21:04 < Leslie_S> denelson83 true.
2008-05-09 21:04 < Demi> you have to distinguish between short, long and unsigned tons
2008-05-09 21:04 < Leslie_S> Demi and tonnes
2008-05-09 21:04 * LOUD_CAT TURNS THE VOLUME UP TO 11
2008-05-09 21:04 < White_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Episodes_and_characters_2/Evidence#Validity_of_such_comparisons
2008-05-09 21:04 * denelson83 plonks LOUD_CAT
2008-05-09 21:04 < quanticle> Demi: Not to mention the IEEE standard floating point tonnes.
2008-05-09 21:04 < White_Cat> denelson83 like the one used there
2008-05-09 21:04 < White_Cat> it isnt working
2008-05-09 21:04 < White_Cat> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:All_Gizah_Pyramids.jpg
2008-05-09 21:04 < White_Cat> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Featured_picture_mul/com/POTD
2008-05-09 21:04 < White_Cat> I'd like to know why
2008-05-09 21:04 < Demi> quanticle - those are only valid for floats, that is, barge loads
2008-05-09 21:04 < LOUD_CAT> DENELSON83 - I'M SORRY SON, YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP. I CAN ONLY HEAR LOUD SOUNDS
2008-05-09 21:04 < denelson83> Perhaps commons hasn't implemented it yet
2008-05-09 21:04 < Leslie_S> Demi i have a funny example of a stupid question on the test, but it uses a bit of jargon, and itd just sound dumb after i explain the jargon.
2008-05-09 21:05 < quanticle> Demi: Indeed. They're also useful for cargo ships.
2008-05-09 21:05 < White_Cat> denelson83 I coppied the code from common.css and common.js
2008-05-09 21:05 < White_Cat> what am I forgetting?
2008-05-09 21:05 < denelson83> *copied
2008-05-09 21:05 < Demi> Leslie_S - is pissing in a bottle and throwing it out the window on the test somewhere?
2008-05-09 21:05 < denelson83> No clue
2008-05-09 21:05 < Leslie_S> but, "When parking trailers that dont have spring brakes, how often should you chock the wheels?", correct answer is always.
2008-05-09 21:05 * denelson83 chocks Leslie_S
2008-05-09 21:05 < Demi> yeah, questions structured like that are always funny
2008-05-09 21:05 < Leslie_S> Demi no. and theres a law that says that you cant do it. the proper method is to pour it out the window when a convertible is passing you.
2008-05-09 21:05 * quanticle chokes denelson83
2008-05-09 21:06 < Demi> driving tests have questions like that about when you should stop for a school bus
2008-05-09 21:06 < quanticle> er, chocks, rather
2008-05-09 21:06 * denelson83 suffocates
2008-05-09 21:06 < Demi> Leslie_S - you have to check for someone flashing boobs at you first
2008-05-09 21:06 < LOUD_CAT> http://www.mattround.freeserve.co.uk/files/killerquiz.swf
2008-05-09 21:06 < Leslie_S> anyway, spring brakes are parking brakes that use springs, and not air pressure.
2008-05-09 21:06 < LOUD_CAT> LULZ
2008-05-09 21:06 < LOUD_CAT> EVERYONE TAKE THAT QUIZ
2008-05-09 21:06 < Leslie_S> air parking brakes will lose air pressure and the trailer will roll on its own. :P
2008-05-09 21:07 < NoPegs> Air brakes require pressure to RELEASE
2008-05-09 21:07 < quanticle> Leslie_S: If the brakes lose pressure over time, then why are they called parking brakes?
2008-05-09 21:07 < NoPegs> they'r efail-safe.
2008-05-09 21:07 < Leslie_S> NoPegs uhm, thats incredibly untrue.
2008-05-09 21:07 * LOUD_CAT got 8 out of 10
2008-05-09 21:07 < denelson83> NoPegs: efail-safe? As in epic-fail-safe?
2008-05-09 21:07 < NoPegs> Leslie_S: Not in the US.
2008-05-09 21:07 < Messedrocker> I got 8 out of 10 too, and I winged it
2008-05-09 21:07 < Leslie_S> NoPegs im in the us.
2008-05-09 21:07 < Leslie_S> NoPegs only spring brakes use pressure to release. if it doesnt have fucking spring brakes, then ...
2008-05-09 21:07 < LOUD_CAT> Messedrocker - I know of all the programming languages mentioned, but I wouldn't have recognized any of their inventors if I passed them on the street
2008-05-09 21:08 < LOUD_CAT> (know/recognize)
2008-05-09 21:08 < denelson83> That's the eastern US, Leslie_S
2008-05-09 21:08 < Leslie_S> NoPegs the main brakes use pressure to activate. read the commercial drivers licensing manual.
2008-05-09 21:08 < LOUD_CAT> I might recognize K&R
2008-05-09 21:08 < Leslie_S> denelson83 theyre all the same.
2008-05-09 21:08 < LOUD_CAT> on a good day
2008-05-09 21:08 < Leslie_S> and spring brakes have been required on all new trailers since 1975
2008-05-09 21:08 < Demi> this reminds me that my mechanic did not actually call be back about how much my new rotors will cost
2008-05-09 21:08 < quanticle> LOUD_CAT: Really? You've seek pictures of Kernighan an Ritchie?
2008-05-09 21:09 < Messedrocker> trucks should be a priority for fuel cell / hybrid engine
2008-05-09 21:09 < Leslie_S> NoPegs anyway, the government has decided that i know enough about air brakes to drive a truck using them, so i think i know what im talking about.
2008-05-09 21:09 < quanticle> Messedrocker: The diesel engines that trucks use are already pretty efficient. And besides, its only due to a quirk of history that we even use trucks to haul cargo. It'd be much more efficient, fuel wise, to use trains.
2008-05-09 21:10 < Leslie_S> what a fucking idiot.
2008-05-09 21:10 < denelson83> Leslie_S: Who's a fucking idiot?
2008-05-09 21:10 < Demi> a totally purposeful "quirk"
2008-05-09 21:10 < quanticle> Demi: Indeed.
2008-05-09 21:10 * denelson83 sneezes
2008-05-09 21:10 < Leslie_S> NoPegs, the person who says that air brakes require pressure to release, which isnt true.
2008-05-09 21:10 < Demi> trains are hybrids already
2008-05-09 21:11 < Leslie_S> well, its partially true, but completely untrue for the type of trailer i was talking about.
2008-05-09 21:11 < LOUD_CAT> quanticle - yes
2008-05-09 21:11 < quanticle> Demi: Sorta, in the sense that there's no batteries to "help" with the load.
2008-05-09 21:11 < Leslie_S> denelson83 and erm, the last line was directed to you, about nopegs. heheh.
2008-05-09 21:11 < LOUD_CAT> http://www.old-computers.com/history/images/Timeline_0578_Kern_Richie.jpg
2008-05-09 21:11 < Demi> yeah, there's no stored power, but there have been hybrid auto designs without that either
2008-05-09 21:11 < denelson83> oops
2008-05-09 21:11 < LOUD_CAT> Your computer FU is proprtional to the amount of facial hair you have
2008-05-09 21:11 < bumm13> trains can't squeeze into tight urban locations for the purpose of off-loading cargo
2008-05-09 21:12 < LOUD_CAT> at least insofar as creating new programming languages
2008-05-09 21:12 < Demi> somewhere there was a study that greenhouse gas wise hybrids (automotive ones, that is) are worse than efficient gas engine-based cars, because of manufacturing energy and some other things
2008-05-09 21:12 < Demi> anyone remember that?
2008-05-09 21:12 < LOUD_CAT> There are a few computer gurus who lack facial hair -- [[Image:Burton J Smith.JPG]]
2008-05-09 21:12 < LOUD_CAT> But they are few and far between
2008-05-09 21:12 < quanticle> Demi: Hmmm, actually, they might not be hybrid. After all, the diesel engines don't directly drive the wheels at all in trains. The engines act a generators for the engines. This is unlike hybrid cars which use a complicated transmission to share the power between the electric motor and the gasoline engine.
2008-05-09 21:13 < Leslie_S> but i love how people on irc think they know everything about everything.
2008-05-09 21:14 < Demi> quanticle - i don't think that's true about every hybrid, but fair enough
2008-05-09 21:14 < quanticle> Demi: I know its true of the Prius, at least. Not sure about the rest.
2008-05-09 21:15 < quanticle> Demi: In any case, my point is that diesel engines are pure electric drive, rather than hybrid.
2008-05-09 21:16 < quanticle> Krimpet!!!!
2008-05-09 21:16 * quanticle flying huggles Krimpet
2008-05-09 21:16 < LOUD_CAT> on the bright side
2008-05-09 21:16 < LOUD_CAT> we finally got a pic of [[Gene Amdahl]]
2008-05-09 21:16 * LOUD_CAT as afraid he was going to die before we got one
2008-05-09 21:16 * CatServ` identifies LOUD_CAT to Kitty Services
2008-05-09 21:16 * Krimpet ducks :o
2008-05-09 21:16 < LOUD_CAT> (he's like 90)
2008-05-09 21:17 < LOUD_CAT> ([[Image:Leslie Lamport.jpg]] <-- invented LaTEx. Notice the amount of facial hair)
2008-05-09 21:18 < Grawp> you fuckers can't fuckin' block me!
2008-05-09 21:18 < bumm13> buh bye
2008-05-09 21:18 * Invisible_Cat cuddles Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-09 21:18 < Demi> quanticle - it looks like what they call "hybrid trains" are those with stored power of some kind
2008-05-09 21:19 * CatServ` fixes Ceiling_Cat's ban
2008-05-09 21:20 < quanticle> Demi: Huh. I didn't realize they had those. Also, I wonder if it's possible to have a 3-way hybrid train - diesel, overhead catenaries, and stored power?
2008-05-09 21:21 < Krimpet> hmm. 66.230.230.230 is a tor node
2008-05-09 21:21 < Krimpet> he'll probably be back
2008-05-09 21:21 < CatServ`> Krimpet: That's why we have multiple ops :P
2008-05-09 21:21 < Ceiling_Cat> Back in the bathhouse, when the moaning stopped, the young man rolled over on his back for a cigarette. Gaëtan Dugas reached up for the lights, turning up the rheostat slowly so his partner's eyes would have time to
2008-05-09 21:21 < Ceiling_Cat> adjust. He then made a point of eyeing the purple lesions on his chest. "Gay cancer", he said, almost as if he were talking to himself. "Maybe you'll get it too." -- Randy Shilts. And the Band Played On, page 198
2008-05-09 21:21 < Gracenotes> to what
2008-05-09 21:21 < bumm13> wtf?
2008-05-09 21:22 < Demi> quanticle - i'd think so, i think in all of these designs the tractor motors are electric
2008-05-09 21:22 < Ceiling_Cat> -- [[Gaëtan Dugas]]
2008-05-09 21:22 < Tesfan> hey he shares my last name, lol =P
2008-05-09 21:22 < CatServ`> Krimpet: {#wikipedia-en} [18:19:16] <Grawp> Another round is coming
2008-05-09 21:22 < bumm13> oh noes!
2008-05-09 21:22 < Gracenotes> and so Ceiling_Cat finds AIDS proliferation quote-worthy. Loverly.
2008-05-09 21:22 < CatServ`> HA!
2008-05-09 21:22 < CatServ`> Krimpet: I knew you were going to do that!
2008-05-09 21:23 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles Gracenotes
2008-05-09 21:23 < Ceiling_Cat> KRIMPET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
2008-05-09 21:23 * Ceiling_Cat unlatches from Gracenotes, latches onto Krimpet
2008-05-09 21:23 < zocky> Estimated World Population to Pass 6,666,666,666 Today
2008-05-09 21:23 < Tesfan> lol
2008-05-09 21:23 * Krimpet unbans grawp so he can move Ceiling_Cat to User:HAGGER?????????????
2008-05-09 21:24 < CatServ`> How many ops does it take to ban a Mibbit troll?
2008-05-09 21:24 < CatServ`> One to kick ban the troll, another to fix the ban, and a third to actually make a smart preventative ban :P
2008-05-09 21:24 * gwern tries to remember the fictional series Grawp is from. harry potter?
2008-05-09 21:24 * Ceiling_Cat gives gwern a gold star
2008-05-09 21:24 < Gracenotes> zocky: in about two hours, it should be
2008-05-09 21:24 * Ceiling_Cat goes back to facehuggles Krimpet
2008-05-09 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> facehuggling*
2008-05-09 21:24 < quanticle> CatServ`: Don't forget the rogue op who undoes the ban, and the final op who bans both the rogue op and reinstates the original ban.
2008-05-09 21:24 < Krimpet> why do legit users use mibbit now? D:
2008-05-09 21:25 < CatServ`> quanticle: XD
2008-05-09 21:25 < Messedrocker> krimpet, my school didn't block mibbit
2008-05-09 21:25 < Messedrocker> :D
2008-05-09 21:25 < Demi> quanticle - when i was living in san francisco (which is networked with overhead lines for electric buses) i always thought it would be awesome to have a robot arm that could reach up for contact, and then retract when not used and run on batteries the other times
2008-05-09 21:25 < Gracenotes> my school blocked mibbit the day after I started using it.
2008-05-09 21:25 * CatServ` hacked his schools firewall
2008-05-09 21:25 < Gracenotes> of course they never said why.
2008-05-09 21:25 < Ceiling_Cat> [[A Lap Dance Is So Much Better When The Stripper Is Crying]] <--- how can we not have this article?
2008-05-09 21:25 < Gracenotes> mibbit is very noisy, though, in terms of network activity
2008-05-09 21:26 < quanticle> Demi: That would have been awesome. It'd have been like a streetcar, but better.
2008-05-09 21:26 < Gracenotes> one XHR after another, constantly opening and closing sockets
2008-05-09 21:26 < CatServ`> So, by some odd coincidense, whenever I use the computer, I magically bypass the content management :P
2008-05-09 21:26 < CatServ`> *conincidence
2008-05-09 21:26 < Gracenotes> CatServ`: novell?
2008-05-09 21:26 < quanticle> Messedrocker: This is why you ssh into your home box, and then run irc from there.
2008-05-09 21:26 < Krimpet> the leet way to bypass your school's firewall would be to http-tunnel out. :p
2008-05-09 21:26 < Gracenotes> CatServ`: does this involve proxies or do you directly connect?
2008-05-09 21:26 < CatServ`> Gracenotes: Direct connect
2008-05-09 21:26 < quanticle> Krimpet: Like I did?
2008-05-09 21:26 < Messedrocker> quanticle, like my school laptop has an SSH client on it. or even permission for me to do windows-r
2008-05-09 21:26 * quanticle ran ssh over port 80
2008-05-09 21:26 < Gracenotes> Krimpet: which heaven knows is so easy to do with IE
2008-05-09 21:27 < Krimpet> quanticle: sort of. :)
2008-05-09 21:27 < CatServ`> /After/ sending a dataflood to http://127.0.0.19:15738
2008-05-09 21:27 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Can't you get PuTTY?
2008-05-09 21:27 < Messedrocker> no!
2008-05-09 21:27 < Messedrocker> no student is trusted with anything
2008-05-09 21:27 < Krimpet> though, many LAN proxy servers would get all confuzzled by non-HTTP data going over port 80, 443 would be better
2008-05-09 21:27 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Its a laptop, right?
2008-05-09 21:28 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-05-09 21:28 < quanticle> Messedrocker: three words: Linux Live CD
2008-05-09 21:28 < Messedrocker> no CD drive
2008-05-09 21:28 < Krimpet> Messedrocker: is it your laptop?
2008-05-09 21:28 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Linux thumb drive
2008-05-09 21:28 < Gracenotes> quanticle: internet is through the novell LAN
2008-05-09 21:28 < Messedrocker> school laptop
2008-05-09 21:28 < Gracenotes> in my school
2008-05-09 21:28 < Messedrocker> quanticle, booting from USB may have been disabled in the BIOS
2008-05-09 21:28 < Messedrocker> which is password protecte
2008-05-09 21:28 < Messedrocker> protected
2008-05-09 21:28 < Krimpet> your school gives you a laptop? fancy :p
2008-05-09 21:28 < Messedrocker> THOUGH I SHALL TRY IT!
2008-05-09 21:28 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Flip it over and reset the damn password.
2008-05-09 21:28 * Invisible_Cat cuddles Krimpet <3
2008-05-09 21:29 * Krimpet had to walk uphill both ways in the snow to use the internet in high school
2008-05-09 21:29 < quanticle> Krimpet: Indeed. In retrospect, SSH over port 443 would have been better.
2008-05-09 21:29 < Invisible_Cat> Krimpet, question
2008-05-09 21:29 * Krimpet is shocked by the phantom feline
2008-05-09 21:29 < Invisible_Cat> what was your first ISP?
2008-05-09 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> Every time you huggle Krimpet, an angel gets his wings
2008-05-09 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> topic #wikipedia
2008-05-09 21:30 < Krimpet> Invisible_Cat: AOL. :/
2008-05-09 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> doh
2008-05-09 21:30 * quanticle huggles Krimpet
2008-05-09 21:30 < CatServ`> I simply installed Ubuntu on a school computer :P
2008-05-09 21:30 < Invisible_Cat> me too
2008-05-09 21:30 < Gracenotes> lol
2008-05-09 21:30 < Invisible_Cat> lol
2008-05-09 21:30 < Gracenotes> Q: How do you bypass school blocks and firewalls?
2008-05-09 21:30 < Gracenotes> A: kill all teachers. simple.
2008-05-09 21:30 < CatServ`> :O
2008-05-09 21:30 < Gracenotes> oh, the internet is a wonderful place. :|
2008-05-09 21:30 * Krimpet hides
2008-05-09 21:30 * CatServ` huggles Krimpet
2008-05-09 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> She's hiding behind the curtains!
2008-05-09 21:30 * Ceiling_Cat points from above
2008-05-09 21:31 * Krimpet puts on a suit with poison tipped barbs
2008-05-09 21:31 * CatServ` beams suit off Krimpet
2008-05-09 21:31 < Gracenotes> my school even blocks the Web Archive and google cache :|
2008-05-09 21:31 * CatServ` huggles Krimpet
2008-05-09 21:31 < Gracenotes> er, for items that are already blocked
2008-05-09 21:32 < Gracenotes> and my school's version of 8e6 can block https by IP
2008-05-09 21:32 < Krimpet> my HS had a tremendously crappy filter everyone knew how to get around
2008-05-09 21:33 < CatServ`> omgtopicwarring
2008-05-09 21:33 < quanticle> Thank you Ceiling_Cat.
2008-05-09 21:33 < Gracenotes> only male angels getting wings?
2008-05-09 21:33 < CatServ`> Gracenotes: I got by that limitation by using IPv6 Toledo tunneling
2008-05-09 21:34 < quanticle> Gracenotes: Oooooh, right, I'll change that
2008-05-09 21:34 < Gracenotes> ooh. good idea.
2008-05-09 21:34 < Krimpet> not cleveland tunneling?
2008-05-09 21:34 < CatServ`> Gracenotes: So, it sees an IPv6 address and is like ``WTF is this?'' and simply lets the datapackets through while it tries to figure out what to do with itself
2008-05-09 21:34 < CatServ`> omgtopicwarring
2008-05-09 21:35 < Gracenotes> and what about Wikipedians that don't have backs?
2008-05-09 21:35 < CatServ`> ...
2008-05-09 21:35 < quanticle> CatServ`: Just making the topic a little more politically correct
2008-05-09 21:35 < CatServ`> quanticle: XD
2008-05-09 21:35 * Ceiling_Cat wraps CatServ` in latex
2008-05-09 21:35 * Ceiling_Cat dunks CatServ` in warm butter
2008-05-09 21:35 < Gracenotes> :|
2008-05-09 21:35 * Ceiling_Cat rolls CatServ` around in flour, then throws him at Gracenotes
2008-05-09 21:36 < CatServ`> :O
2008-05-09 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> it's a kitty buritto
2008-05-09 21:36 < Gracenotes> that would be hot if everyone weren't coughing all over the place
2008-05-09 21:36 * Krimpet has already had her horns for quite sometime, though.
2008-05-09 21:36 < CatServ`> :O
2008-05-09 21:36 * quanticle catches CatServ`, and deep fries him
2008-05-09 21:36 < CatServ`> :O :O
2008-05-09 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Mmm mmm good
2008-05-09 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> full of vitamins and essential amino acids
2008-05-09 21:36 < Gracenotes> CatServ`: so how do you convert IPv6 to IPv4 on the end of the school computer?
2008-05-09 21:36 * Messedrocker attempts to climb an infinite set of stairs
2008-05-09 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> have you had your cat today?
2008-05-09 21:36 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Its a CatServ` chalupa.
2008-05-09 21:37 < CatServ`> Gracenotes: Install the Microsoft IPv6 developer utility
2008-05-09 21:37 < CatServ`> Then connect to the internet via IPv6
2008-05-09 21:37 < CatServ`> How it's done differs from system to system
2008-05-09 21:37 < Gracenotes> hm. i see
2008-05-09 21:38 < Gracenotes> my school doesn't even allow the use of command line :|
2008-05-09 21:38 < Gracenotes> maybe if I made a .bat file and double clicked it...
2008-05-09 21:38 < Gracenotes> eh. I dunno.
2008-05-09 21:38 < CatServ`> Gracenotes: I have a bat file
2008-05-09 21:38 < CatServ`> Want me to DCC it to you?
2008-05-09 21:38 < Gracenotes> sharing is caring :)
2008-05-09 21:38 < Gracenotes> yeah
2008-05-09 21:38 < quanticle> So, here's my proposed scale for #wikipedia statuses sane < not sane < craaaaazy < nuts
2008-05-09 21:38 < Gracenotes> lemme doublecheck my client
2008-05-09 21:39 < Gracenotes> okay. enabled.
2008-05-09 21:39 < Invisible_Cat> removing a current event
2008-05-09 21:39 < Krimpet> Gracenotes: when I was in HS, I copied cmd.exe (I think) and regedit.exe and hex-edited them - they simply checked for a certain registry key
2008-05-09 21:40 < CatServ`> Gracenotes: DCC request sent
2008-05-09 21:40 * ThePolecat eats a spoon of wasabi on the basis of "how bad can it be anyway"?
2008-05-09 21:40 < bumm13> they'd use a different OS if they truly wanted it locked down ;p
2008-05-09 21:40 < Gracenotes> yep
2008-05-09 21:40 < ThePolecat> the answer is "very"
2008-05-09 21:40 < Gracenotes> and in Java, Runtime.exec isn't prohibited
2008-05-09 21:40 * ThePolecat now has a headache
2008-05-09 21:40 < bumm13> very "hot rush up one's nose" ;)
2008-05-09 21:40 < Gracenotes> CatServ`: oh noes, DCC failed
2008-05-09 21:40 < CatServ`> D:
2008-05-09 21:40 < ThePolecat> yep, far up.
2008-05-09 21:41 < bumm13> 'tis not German food
2008-05-09 21:41 < quanticle> Gracenotes: So you mean that you could have essentially written a Java batch file?
2008-05-09 21:41 < CatServ`> Gracenotes: Sent again
2008-05-09 21:41 < arcimboldo_> a spoonful is a bit heavy for a first try ...
2008-05-09 21:41 < bumm13> heehee, true
2008-05-09 21:41 < ThePolecat> not a first try
2008-05-09 21:41 < uberpenguin> hey bumm13
2008-05-09 21:41 < ThePolecat> I was just trying to gauge my limits
2008-05-09 21:41 < bumm13> hiya uberpenguin
2008-05-09 21:41 < Gracenotes> quanticle: yes. Except some processes might not be allowed.
2008-05-09 21:41 < uberpenguin> how's life?
2008-05-09 21:41 < Krimpet> some of the teachers that ran my school's lab were bastards, though. they had this thing called "SynchronEyes" that they'd use to monitor and control everyone's computer
2008-05-09 21:41 < asdfasdfe234> hello
2008-05-09 21:41 < Gracenotes> cmd.exe, iirc, has been hacked
2008-05-09 21:41 < CatServ`> Krimpet: I know
2008-05-09 21:41 < CatServ`> Hello asdfasdfe234
2008-05-09 21:41 < asdfasdfe234> what does this poem mean
2008-05-09 21:42 < bumm13> my "hot limit" seems to be Sriracha sauce (not mixed into something)
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> Teach me to Love? go teach thy self more wit;
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> I am chief Professor of it.
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> Teach craft to Scots, and thrift to Jews,
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> Teach boldness to the Stews;
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> In tyrants courts teach supple flattery,
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> Teach Jesuits, that have traveled far, to Lye.
2008-05-09 21:42 < CatServ`> asdfasdfe234: Please don't paste it here
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> Teach fire to burn and Winds to blow.
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> Teach restless Fountains how to flow,
2008-05-09 21:42 < CatServ`> asdfasdfe234: stop
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> Teach the dull earth, fixt, to abide,
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> Teach Woman-kind inconstancy and Pride.
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> See if your diligence here will useful prove;
2008-05-09 21:42 < asdfasdfe234> But, pr'ithee, teach not me to love.
2008-05-09 21:42 < bumm13> moron, I see
2008-05-09 21:42 < Krimpet> if this one guy caught _anyone_ playing a game, he locked _everyone's_ computer up until that one person agreed to stop playing. -_-
2008-05-09 21:42 < bumm13> Krimpet: revolt!
2008-05-09 21:43 < Krimpet> bumm13: thankfully this was 5 years ago. :)
2008-05-09 21:43 < uberpenguin> bumm13: how are things going for you?
2008-05-09 21:43 < bumm13> was he a teacher?
2008-05-09 21:43 < Krimpet> yep
2008-05-09 21:43 < bumm13> you should have all just told the kid to "keep playing!"
2008-05-09 21:43 < Messedrocker> http://youtube.com/watch?v=mbBJzUwhYrY&feature=related << for the win
2008-05-09 21:43 < bumm13> uberpenguin: tiring
2008-05-09 21:43 < quanticle> Krimpet: Hmmm. It almost sounds like a he was using a back door. I would have tried to get access to this SynchronEyes thing so that I could have locked other people's machines.
2008-05-09 21:44 < bumm13> I just unloaded and put away grocery items :-p
2008-05-09 21:44 < Krimpet> was a catholic school, all "proper" and such. :/
2008-05-09 21:44 < Messedrocker> i was at a catholic school today
2008-05-09 21:44 < bumm13> oh gawd, catholic school
2008-05-09 21:44 < Messedrocker> what kind of pushy moron begins a play with an OPENING PRAYER
2008-05-09 21:44 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Catholic school morons?
2008-05-09 21:44 < Krimpet> quanticle: well, it was a back door, just an officially sanctioned one - with some obscure protocol I couldn't decipher. :p
2008-05-09 21:44 * Invisible_Cat rubs Ceiling_Cat's shoulders
2008-05-09 21:45 < uberpenguin> bumm13: what do you think of my new site layout? http://mattb.alwayssleeping.com/
2008-05-09 21:45 * bumm13 looks
2008-05-09 21:45 < uberpenguin> bumm13: web2.pretentious enough? :P
2008-05-09 21:45 < quanticle> Krimpet: Heh. My friend cracked the schools Win2000 admin passwords by grabbing the hashes and hitting them with JackTheRipper combined with a rainbow table.
2008-05-09 21:45 < bumm13> snazzy :-)
2008-05-09 21:45 < bumm13> uberpenguin: I've been watching many old sci-fi B-movies :x
2008-05-09 21:46 < bumm13> I like how prominent "RCA" is one that one tube
2008-05-09 21:46 < uberpenguin> neat, I have this copy of "20 Million Miles from Earth" that I've been meaning to see
2008-05-09 21:46 < uberpenguin> guess who manufactured it? :3
2008-05-09 21:46 < bumm13> there's so many to see :)
2008-05-09 21:46 < quanticle> bumm13: Heh. MAOR AJAX
2008-05-09 21:46 < bumm13> uh...... RCA?
2008-05-09 21:46 < uberpenguin> bingo
2008-05-09 21:46 < Krimpet> going to Catholic school was, for me, the definitive reason for losing any religious beliefs :p
2008-05-09 21:46 < bumm13> w00t
2008-05-09 21:46 < bumm13> Krimpet: I hear that a lot ;p
2008-05-09 21:46 < Yamakiri> Does anyone else have a problem with .ogg files here? They make Firefox crash 95% of the time I try to open them.
2008-05-09 21:47 < bumm13> open them with what program?
2008-05-09 21:47 < quanticle> Yamakiri: Nope. No problems here. Then again, I'm on Linux.
2008-05-09 21:47 < PHMan> hello
2008-05-09 21:47 < bumm13> what does Linux have to do with anything?
2008-05-09 21:47 < bumm13> hi
2008-05-09 21:47 < Yamakiri> I use Win XP
2008-05-09 21:48 < quanticle> bumm13: Most Linux distros have ogg support baked in.
2008-05-09 21:48 < bumm13> Yamakiri: what program do you use to open the .ogg files?
2008-05-09 21:48 < bumm13> quanticle: that's nice
2008-05-09 21:48 < Yamakiri> um...
2008-05-09 21:48 < Yamakiri> You mean Firefox can't?
2008-05-09 21:48 < bumm13> I have no trouble with them in win2k (once it's setup properly for them)
2008-05-09 21:48 < uberpenguin> quanticle: I've never seen a stable media plugin for firefox/linux
2008-05-09 21:48 < quanticle> Yamakiri: I recommend Winamp or VLC for OGG files.
2008-05-09 21:48 < bumm13> I don't know, I've never tried using a browser for that purpose
2008-05-09 21:48 < uberpenguin> all the gstreamer ones are wonky, the mplayer one is wonky, the xine one is ultrawonky
2008-05-09 21:48 < bumm13> what quanticle said
2008-05-09 21:48 < quanticle> uberpenguin: MPlayerplug-in works just fine on my Fedora 7 box.
2008-05-09 21:49 < Yamakiri> are those Firefox addons? I'm kinda technology impaired
2008-05-09 21:49 < bumm13> nope
2008-05-09 21:49 < uberpenguin> just wait, it'll crash on you at an inopportune moment
2008-05-09 21:49 < bumm13> separate programs
2008-05-09 21:49 < Messedrocker> BROWNOUT!
2008-05-09 21:49 < Krimpet> GNOME's built in media support works fine for me
2008-05-09 21:49 < quanticle> Yamakiri: No they're stand-alone programs
2008-05-09 21:49 < bumm13> I imagine XMMS handles .ogg fine
2008-05-09 21:49 * Messedrocker now has his computer unplugged
2008-05-09 21:49 < bumm13> (on *NIX)
2008-05-09 21:49 < CatServ`> Gracenotes: sent
2008-05-09 21:49 < Yamakiri> So... I just download a programme and it should work?
2008-05-09 21:49 < Krimpet> it only falls apart when I try to use something like Flash Player or Skype that doesn't play along well :p
2008-05-09 21:50 < bumm13> Yamakiri: yeah, pretty much
2008-05-09 21:50 < quanticle> Yamakiri: It should work, yes.
2008-05-09 21:50 * Gracenotes huggles CatServ` gratefully
2008-05-09 21:50 < quanticle> Krimpet: Are you on 64-bit Linux?
2008-05-09 21:50 < Krimpet> Yamakiri: yeah, you need to do some setup, we have a tutorial at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OGG :)
2008-05-09 21:50 < Yamakiri> thanks!
2008-05-09 21:50 < Krimpet> quanticle: no, 32-bit