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2008-05-09 14:04 < PJasper> wat
2008-05-09 14:05 < bumm13> my sister's springer spaniel had puppies a few months ago
2008-05-09 14:05 < Demi> one of the contestants on that food network competition show couldn't pronounce "cotija cheese"
2008-05-09 14:05 < Fireaxe888> we have to give him his vaccines
2008-05-09 14:05 < bumm13> how *do* you pronounce that?
2008-05-09 14:05 < Mike_H> Demi: coh-tee-yuh?
2008-05-09 14:05 < Fireaxe888> and then wait two weeks
2008-05-09 14:05 < Demi> -huh
2008-05-09 14:05 < Mike_H> huh.
2008-05-09 14:05 < Mike_H> okay.
2008-05-09 14:05 < bumm13> Fireaxe888: yeah; for like kennel cough and parvo?
2008-05-09 14:06 < Mike_H> Demi: The Top Model girls fell over a lot of words
2008-05-09 14:06 < Mike_H> first was "technicolor"
2008-05-09 14:06 < Fireaxe888> what?
2008-05-09 14:06 < Mike_H> then "magenta"
2008-05-09 14:06 < Demi> i've had my own run-ins with "La Jolla" and "Jicama"
2008-05-09 14:06 < Mike_H> "Christian Lacroix"
2008-05-09 14:06 < Mike_H> "Hermes"
2008-05-09 14:06 < Demi> and "Jojoba"
2008-05-09 14:06 < bumm13> Fireaxe888: the vaccines
2008-05-09 14:06 < quanticle> Kirotopher: The pattern on one of your cats is quite striking
2008-05-09 14:06 < Fireaxe888> don't know
2008-05-09 14:06 < Mike_H> oh, and one girl fell on "(looks to the left)"
2008-05-09 14:06 < Fireaxe888> he has one already
2008-05-09 14:06 < Fireaxe888> one more and we can walk him
2008-05-09 14:06 < Fireaxe888> than theres a third one for rabies
2008-05-09 14:06 < Demi> people have a lot of problems with "chipotle"
2008-05-09 14:06 < Mike_H> then they stumbled on "Gisele Bundchen," "Karolina Kurkova," and "Au revoir!"
2008-05-09 14:07 < Mike_H> oh, and "chic"
2008-05-09 14:07 < Mike_H> and "francais."
2008-05-09 14:07 < bumm13> Fireaxe888 - http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?articleid=960 has a list of some of the diseases puppies are vaccinated for
2008-05-09 14:07 < zocky> bbl
2008-05-09 14:07 < Fireaxe888> interesting
2008-05-09 14:07 < Fireaxe888> he now hates the vet
2008-05-09 14:07 < bumm13> Demi: chipotle isn't a Spanish word, I don't think
2008-05-09 14:07 < bumm13> aww
2008-05-09 14:08 < White_Cat> Mike_H officialy turkey isnt a muslim country btw :P
2008-05-09 14:08 < Mike_H> yes, we know, secularism
2008-05-09 14:08 < White_Cat> half of the country would be beheaded if they lived in Saudi Arabia
2008-05-09 14:08 < Fireaxe888> He has a cough and we had to give him injections
2008-05-09 14:08 < Fireaxe888> before the vaccine
2008-05-09 14:08 < bumm13> ah
2008-05-09 14:08 < Fireaxe888> but hes ok now
2008-05-09 14:08 < Demi> i don't know if there's a different word they use for smoked jalapeños in mexico; but people always want to say "chipolte" instead of "chipotle"
2008-05-09 14:08 < bumm13> cool :)
2008-05-09 14:08 < White_Cat> then again living in saudi arabia isnt realy living
2008-05-09 14:08 < White_Cat> imagine, no porn
2008-05-09 14:08 < Mike_H> Demi: One of the dumb girls mispronounced "chic" as "clit"
2008-05-09 14:09 < Mike_H> and they actually made it to air.
2008-05-09 14:09 < bumm13> o.o
2008-05-09 14:09 < Demi> haha
2008-05-09 14:09 < Demi> that's sweet
2008-05-09 14:10 < Mike_H> Demi: usually there was only one girl each to pronounce a given "hard" word right
2008-05-09 14:10 < Mike_H> except for (looks to the left)
2008-05-09 14:10 < Mike_H> that only tripped one girl.
2008-05-09 14:10 < Mike_H> because when it says
2008-05-09 14:11 < Mike_H> (looks to the left)
2008-05-09 14:11 < Mike_H> what do you do?
2008-05-09 14:11 < Mike_H> Yes, you keep silent!
2008-05-09 14:12 < Mike_H> okay, I'm going to check to see if my paycheck is here
2008-05-09 14:12 < Mike_H> bai
2008-05-09 14:12 < quanticle> Bye
2008-05-09 14:16 * quanticle wonders whether to change the status to a "Troll Threat Level" (TTL).
2008-05-09 14:16 < Demi> or "Troll Treat Level"
2008-05-09 14:17 < quanticle> or "Time To Live"
2008-05-09 14:17 < Demi> "Troll Treat Level: Chocolate", which is also a color
2008-05-09 14:17 < quanticle> Strawberry and vanilla are colors too.
2008-05-09 14:17 < Fireaxe888_> sorry,lost internet
2008-05-09 14:17 < Fireaxe888_> what?
2008-05-09 14:18 < quanticle> Fireaxe888: No context for you!
2008-05-09 14:18 < sasquatch> Troll Threat Level: Delicious
2008-05-09 14:18 < Fireaxe888_> why cant i turn my usernameback
2008-05-09 14:18 < Fireaxe888_> i now have two
2008-05-09 14:19 < sasquatch> Fireaxe888_: are you registered in freenode?
2008-05-09 14:19 < Fireaxe888_> nope
2008-05-09 14:19 < sasquatch> it just appears you have a ghost
2008-05-09 14:19 < Fireaxe888_> i cant seem to logout of my other name
2008-05-09 14:19 < quanticle> Fireaxe888: If you were register, you could take care of this problem.
2008-05-09 14:19 * soufron hello
2008-05-09 14:19 * quanticle hello's soufron
2008-05-09 14:19 < Fireaxe888_> I lost internet for a moment
2008-05-09 14:19 < sasquatch> you can't. it's a ghost. it'll time out eventually
2008-05-09 14:20 < quanticle> Sasquatch: If he were registered, he could force the ghost off with a /ns GHOST
2008-05-09 14:20 < bumm13> ghostbusters!
2008-05-09 14:20 < sasquatch> quanticle: yes, i'm aware of this.. which is why i asked him if he was registered
2008-05-09 14:20 < sasquatch> assuming it's a he
2008-05-09 14:21 < Demi> i just noticed sasquatch was here, long time no c
2008-05-09 14:21 < The359> he has a C
2008-05-09 14:21 < sasquatch> yea, school's out for the summer =D
2008-05-09 14:22 < sasquatch> time to nurture my wiki-addiction for the next four months
2008-05-09 14:22 < PJasper> woot
2008-05-09 14:23 < Demi> i'm going to write a scholarly paper one day: "Is Chewbacca A Sasquatch?!
2008-05-09 14:23 < bumm13> heh
2008-05-09 14:23 < Demi> this topic comes up often in our household
2008-05-09 14:23 < The359> what is a Sasquatch though?
2008-05-09 14:23 < quanticle> Say, does Wikihow have any drawing tutorials?
2008-05-09 14:23 < sasquatch> i have a feeling that i'm a direct decedent of a wookie
2008-05-09 14:23 < bumm13> Seattle might not have Squatch in 2009 :(
2008-05-09 14:23 < sasquatch> bumm13: what?!?!
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> how can they do that?
2008-05-09 14:24 < Demi> last night my son says to me, "Let's pretend you're Chewbacca giving Luke Skywalker a foot rub."
2008-05-09 14:24 < quanticle> bumm13: Squatch?
2008-05-09 14:24 < bumm13> the Seattle Sonics mascot
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> yea
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> they better not move
2008-05-09 14:24 < quanticle> Demi: That's... creepy.
2008-05-09 14:24 < bumm13> well, if the Sonics move :P
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> yea
2008-05-09 14:24 < Demi> it's a little strange
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> i love the sonics
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> haha
2008-05-09 14:24 < bumm13> the lease is through 2010
2008-05-09 14:24 < Demi> not the weirdest thing he's wanted to pretend Chewbacca (me) was doing for Luke Skywalker (him)
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> oh well
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> there's still the Sasquatch music festival
2008-05-09 14:24 < quanticle> bumm13: What are the penalties for breaking the leaseA?
2008-05-09 14:24 < Fireaxe888_> I used to live in seattle
2008-05-09 14:24 < sasquatch> my namesake shall live on
2008-05-09 14:25 < Fireaxe888_> before i moved to bulgaria]
2008-05-09 14:25 < bumm13> quanticle: that's being dealt with in court
2008-05-09 14:25 < Demi> around where i live there's a bigfoot trap for catching sasquatches.
2008-05-09 14:25 < bumm13> if they rule in favor of the OKC ownership group, they can break the lease
2008-05-09 14:25 < quanticle> Demi: Is it like a bear trap but bigger?
2008-05-09 14:25 < bumm13> (which is bullshit)
2008-05-09 14:25 < bumm13> if not, then 2010
2008-05-09 14:25 < Demi> it's more like a jail cell with a falling door
2008-05-09 14:25 < Fireaxe888_> /ns GHOST Fireaxe888 dany645
2008-05-09 14:25 < bumm13> oops
2008-05-09 14:25 < bumm13> change thy password
2008-05-09 14:26 < sasquatch> well, to be fair
2008-05-09 14:26 < Demi> quanticle - we actually have an article on [[Bigfoot trap]]
2008-05-09 14:26 < sasquatch> the sonic's stadium is shit
2008-05-09 14:26 < The359> you have to register under your original name first, Fireaxe888
2008-05-09 14:26 < quanticle> Demi: Huh. Is the trap in your area maintained?
2008-05-09 14:26 < bumm13> it's not shit, it's just not super-fancy
2008-05-09 14:26 < Demi> no, it's disabled
2008-05-09 14:27 < bumm13> but the taxpayers shouldn't have to buy new arenas for the rich
2008-05-09 14:27 < Demi> the door is welded or bolted in place
2008-05-09 14:27 < Fireaxe888_> damn
2008-05-09 14:27 < Fireaxe888_> how do i change my password
2008-05-09 14:27 < sasquatch> to IRC or wikipedia?
2008-05-09 14:27 < bumm13> Seattle Center Coliseum was renovated in 1995 (and became KeyArena)
2008-05-09 14:27 < bumm13> IRC
2008-05-09 14:27 < Fireaxe888_> the one i just said
2008-05-09 14:28 < quanticle> Demi: that's unfortunate. How are you supposed to catch bigfeet if the traps are disabled? :P
2008-05-09 14:28 < The359> ./msg Nickserv Help
2008-05-09 14:28 < Demi> exactly
2008-05-09 14:28 < Fireaxe888_> ./msg Nickserv Help
2008-05-09 14:28 < Demi> it is maintained, in the sense that it was badly damaged but has been repaired
2008-05-09 14:28 < quanticle> Fireaxe888_: No dot
2008-05-09 14:28 < The359> ...
2008-05-09 14:28 < The359> without the period
2008-05-09 14:28 < Cream> hi quanticle
2008-05-09 14:28 < Cream> <3
2008-05-09 14:29 * Cream is worried about a friend
2008-05-09 14:29 < quanticle> Hello Loooooooong_Cat
2008-05-09 14:29 < sasquatch> just go /msg nickerv set password <newpass>
2008-05-09 14:29 < quanticle> Why're you worried, Cream?
2008-05-09 14:29 < sasquatch> where you replace <newpass> with your new password
2008-05-09 14:29 < Fireaxe888_> /msg NickServ HELP SET
2008-05-09 14:29 < Cream> oh
2008-05-09 14:29 < Cream> he's in quarantine atm
2008-05-09 14:29 < bumm13> quarantine? for what?
2008-05-09 14:30 < Demi> Fireaxe888_ - what client are you using?
2008-05-09 14:30 < sasquatch> /msg
2008-05-09 14:30 < Cream> well, he was getting back from Vancouver on a train
2008-05-09 14:30 < quanticle> Fireaxe: The slash has to be the first character of your message, otherwise its not recognized
2008-05-09 14:30 < sasquatch> yea
2008-05-09 14:30 < Fireaxe888_> ok,changed my pass
2008-05-09 14:30 < sasquatch> no spaces
2008-05-09 14:30 < Demi> Fireaxe888_ - okay
2008-05-09 14:30 < Cream> on that train, a woman died of a unknown disease
2008-05-09 14:30 < bumm13> :x
2008-05-09 14:30 < sasquatch> Fireaxe888_: now you need to link Fireaxe888 to your current account
2008-05-09 14:30 < Cream> symptoms that are similar to the flu
2008-05-09 14:30 < quanticle> Cream: So everyone from the train is under quarantine?
2008-05-09 14:30 < Cream> yup
2008-05-09 14:30 < Cream> everyone
2008-05-09 14:30 < bumm13> yikes
2008-05-09 14:30 < Cream> so per precautions the train has been frozen
2008-05-09 14:30 < Fireaxe888_> how
2008-05-09 14:31 < Demi> Cream - when was this?
2008-05-09 14:31 < Cream> earlier this morning
2008-05-09 14:31 < Demi> cream - what is the destination?
2008-05-09 14:31 < Cream> Toronto
2008-05-09 14:31 < quanticle> Cream: Heh. Flu-like symptoms can describe everything from a bad head cold to the beginning stages of Ebola.
2008-05-09 14:31 < Demi> oh okay
2008-05-09 14:32 < sasquatch> Fireaxe888_: I guess you need to wait for your other account to unghost first
2008-05-09 14:32 < quanticle> Demi: Its SARS v2, isn't it?! :P
2008-05-09 14:32 < sasquatch> hmm, maybe a dev can help
2008-05-09 14:32 < Cream> lol
2008-05-09 14:32 < Demi> quanticle - who knows? like you said, these things are kind of nonspecific until there's a pattern
2008-05-09 14:32 < Cream> I am looking at the article
2008-05-09 14:32 < Cream> of that town
2008-05-09 14:32 < Demi> some weirdy flu has been going around the west this year
2008-05-09 14:32 * Cream removes vandalism
2008-05-09 14:32 < bumm13> I think I already had it
2008-05-09 14:32 < sasquatch> hey, who knows if any freenode devs are on...
2008-05-09 14:33 < sasquatch> and/or how to contact them
2008-05-09 14:33 < Fireaxe888> Nickserv/identify Dannyboy1
2008-05-09 14:33 < bumm13> :(
2008-05-09 14:33 < Demi> so i thought there used to be a rail link from vancouver to seattle, but the train these days stops and seattle and amtrak provides a bus to vancouver
2008-05-09 14:33 < Fireaxe888> fuck
2008-05-09 14:33 < bumm13> slash *before* the identify part
2008-05-09 14:33 * Cream adds the current tag
2008-05-09 14:33 < sasquatch> you might want to change your password
2008-05-09 14:33 < sasquatch> haha
2008-05-09 14:33 < Demi> bumm13 - did you have a backache? persistent cough? a long sore throat?
2008-05-09 14:33 < bumm13> no backache
2008-05-09 14:33 < bumm13> but otherwise yes
2008-05-09 14:33 < Fireaxe888> nickserv/ set
2008-05-09 14:33 < Demi> yeah, i lost my voice
2008-05-09 14:34 < bumm13> !!!
2008-05-09 14:34 < Demi> which i think is the first time that happened
2008-05-09 14:34 < bumm13> Fireaxe: /nickserv , not nickserv/
2008-05-09 14:34 < Demi> and my wife and i have had a sore throat for days and days
2008-05-09 14:34 < bumm13> Demi: it took forever to shake it off
2008-05-09 14:34 < sasquatch> all IRC commands being with a /
2008-05-09 14:34 < Demi> a lot of people are getting the backache, too
2008-05-09 14:34 * Cream gets the news
2008-05-09 14:34 < Cream> http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=8ad78a10-61da-4ae0-83dd-68da89156fb1
2008-05-09 14:34 < bumm13> Demi: oh, you just got these symptoms?
2008-05-09 14:34 < Demi> bumm13 - no, i started having them when i was at disneyland
2008-05-09 14:34 < Demi> i got better, my wife is still sick
2008-05-09 14:34 < bumm13> :(((
2008-05-09 14:35 < bumm13> was it in two stages?
2008-05-09 14:35 < bumm13> (so to speak)
2008-05-09 14:35 < Fireaxe888> ok i changed my password again
2008-05-09 14:35 < Demi> she's on the tail end of it, but her allergies are starting and she has a heart condition, the combination of which yesterday resulted in a trip to the ER
2008-05-09 14:35 < Demi> bumm13 - yeah, more or less
2008-05-09 14:35 < bumm13> :( :( :(
2008-05-09 14:35 < bumm13> it took about a month for me to notice the symptoms fading completely
2008-05-09 14:35 < quanticle> It just occurred to me. "Flu like symptoms" = "we don't have a goddamn clue as to what the actual symptoms are"
2008-05-09 14:35 < Demi> her sore throat's gone on longer but was less intense than mine
2008-05-09 14:36 < Demi> i wonder if it's because i still have tonsils
2008-05-09 14:36 < bumm13> perhaps
2008-05-09 14:36 < bumm13> but I do as well
2008-05-09 14:36 < Demi> "flu like symptoms" = "sick"
2008-05-09 14:36 < sasquatch> you're all good Fireaxe888
2008-05-09 14:36 < Fireaxe888> finally
2008-05-09 14:36 < sasquatch> next time you get ghosted type /nickserv ghost <yourpassword>
2008-05-09 14:36 < Fireaxe888> ok
2008-05-09 14:36 < sasquatch> and it'll kick that ghost off for you
2008-05-09 14:36 < quanticle> Demi: Or perhaps, "flu-like symptoms" = "we don't quite know what's wrong with you"
2008-05-09 14:37 < Fireaxe888> at least no one knows my pass anymore
2008-05-09 14:37 < sasquatch> secure passwords are always good
2008-05-09 14:37 * Mike_H watches old Solid Gold 87 clips
2008-05-09 14:37 < sasquatch> man, i remember back when the GNAA used to troll freenode 24/7
2008-05-09 14:37 < Mike_H> the pretty golden dancers are gyrating in a ball of confusion and Aqua Net.
2008-05-09 14:37 < quanticle> Well, IRC is hardly a secure protocol.
2008-05-09 14:38 < sasquatch> well, secure passwords as in one that no one else knows
2008-05-09 14:38 < sasquatch> and didn't get spewed all over #wikipedia
2008-05-09 14:40 < Demi> Imperial_Star_De - your nick is truncated, therefore your presence is not imposing
2008-05-09 14:40 < Imperial_Star_De> Hello.
2008-05-09 14:40 < Imperial_Star_De> And?
2008-05-09 14:41 * ThePolecat 's sentences are tru
2008-05-09 14:42 < quanticle> ThePolecat: Heh. More like your sentences are fa
2008-05-09 14:43 < ThePolecat> I deny that strenu
2008-05-09 14:44 < gwern> ah, I haven't seen GNAA for months
2008-05-09 14:44 < gwern> I guess deleting their WP article did help after all
2008-05-09 14:45 < atomicpotato> gwern, I'm a regular in #gnaa. It's just that the GNAA has disbanded.
2008-05-09 14:46 < atomicpotato> Most of them became obsessed with jap cartoons and left. The rest spend all their time on FAILchan.org
2008-05-09 14:46 < PJasper> wat
2008-05-09 14:46 < gwern> atomicpotato: oh noes, the animu strike again
2008-05-09 14:47 < quanticle> gwern: Animu? Is that some variant of the Mu, from rahXephon?
2008-05-09 14:48 < quanticle> Martinp23: Heh. You joined IdleRPG too?
2008-05-09 14:48 < Martinp23> yep :p
2008-05-09 14:48 * Martinp23 is good at being idle
2008-05-09 14:48 < bumm13> IdleRPG shows what happens when a concept is taken to weird extremes ;p
2008-05-09 14:50 < Fireaxe888> Wikipedia is a Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game (MMORPG) in which participants play editors of a hypothetical online encyclopedia, where they try to insert misinformation that they are randomly assigned when they create their accounts, while preventing contrary information from being entered by others. Players with similar misinformation to promote will generally form "guilds"...
2008-05-09 14:50 < Fireaxe888> ...in order to aid each other.
2008-05-09 14:50 < Martinp23> heheh
2008-05-09 14:50 < Martinp23> so true :(
2008-05-09 14:51 < gwern> quanticle: yes. animulians seek to take over the world of normals
2008-05-09 14:51 < Fireaxe888> As Wikipedia players progress, they gain more authority, with "Administrator" and "Double-O Licensed" allowing them access to game processes not available to other players. While the rules for winning the game are a tightly kept secret, it is believed that the winner gets to buttfuck Wikipedia creator master wikipedo Jimbo Wales and make him squeal like a pig.
2008-05-09 14:51 < Fireaxe888> I DIDNT MAKE THIS UP
2008-05-09 14:51 < Fireaxe888> ITS FROM ENCYCLOPEDIA DRAMATICA
2008-05-09 14:51 < The359> didn't make what up?
2008-05-09 14:52 < The359> so?
2008-05-09 14:52 < Fireaxe888> so dont flame me
2008-05-09 14:52 < quanticle> Fireaxe888: You'll get flamed for just mentioning ED.
2008-05-09 14:52 < The359> If you don't want to be flamed, don't post it?
2008-05-09 14:52 < Fireaxe888> i didnt read the second part before i posted it
2008-05-09 14:53 < quanticle> Fireaxe888: Perhaps you should have. It is ED, after all.
2008-05-09 14:53 < Demi> TV is gooder than reading
2008-05-09 14:53 < Fireaxe888> I only found out about it today
2008-05-09 14:53 < gwern> eh. I've seen better treatments of the MMORPG-wikipedia concept
2008-05-09 14:53 < Fireaxe888> maybe its a bit more civil than uncyclopedia.......
2008-05-09 14:53 < quanticle> Fireaxe888: More civil? ED? Hah!
2008-05-09 14:54 < The359> maybe you're playing dumb
2008-05-09 14:54 < Fireaxe888> maybe you are playing dumb
2008-05-09 14:54 < quanticle> Fireaxe888: I'm surprised you haven't come across the blatant goatses yet.
2008-05-09 14:54 < Gracenotes> goatse's incivil?
2008-05-09 14:54 < Fireaxe888> as stated above
2008-05-09 14:54 < Fireaxe888> i only found about it today
2008-05-09 14:54 < Mike_H> Survivor: Fans vs. Favorites is down to four
2008-05-09 14:54 < quanticle> Gracenotes: I'd certainly consider a man's stretched anus to be uncivil.
2008-05-09 14:54 < Mike_H> all of them girls, and only one "fan" left among the four
2008-05-09 14:55 < quanticle> Fireaxe888: Someone is trying to rape your mind indirectly by sending you to ED.
2008-05-09 14:55 < PJasper> Oh that reminds me I was searching for pics for a powerpoint presentation my mom was doing and I saw a kid's drawing that totally looked like goatse I want to find it again :/
2008-05-09 14:55 < Gracenotes> to the contrary, ED is a suitable resource for those looking to get off to images of men's distended anuses...
2008-05-09 14:57 < Fireaxe888> im no that kind of guy
2008-05-09 14:57 < The359> then why are you on ED
2008-05-09 14:57 < gwern> 2'DONGGUAN, CHINA -- Liu Keli couldn't tell you much about South Carolina, not even where it is in the United States. It's as obscure to him as his home region, Shanxi province, is to most Americans.
2008-05-09 14:57 < gwern> But Liu is investing $10 million in the Palmetto State, building a printing-plate factory that will open this fall and hire 120 workers. His main aim is to tap the large American market, but when his finance staff penciled out the costs, he was stunned to learn how they compared with those in China.'
2008-05-09 14:57 < Fireaxe888> im not that kind of guy
2008-05-09 14:57 < gwern> 'They don't want to miss this opportunity to bottom-fish in the U.S.," said Mei Xinyu, an economist at China's Ministry of Commerce, referring to the depressed asset prices in a sluggish American economy.'
2008-05-09 14:58 < Gracenotes> shock images are inconveniencing perhaps, perhaps, or disgusting. "uncivil" implies that a sort of standard of civility exists. Seriously, it's the internet...
2008-05-09 14:58 < quanticle> gwern: Heh. More proof that America is becoming a third world country.
2008-05-09 14:58 < Fireaxe888> ave never seen a shock image
2008-05-09 14:58 < bumm13> sure.....
2008-05-09 14:58 < Fireaxe888> not that i will anytime soon
2008-05-09 14:58 < Fireaxe888> i swear
2008-05-09 14:59 < quanticle> Gracenotes: That's true. However, I'd argue that the fact that you can identify them as shock images is a mark of their incivility. The Internet has a standard of civility, its just variable, and very very low in most places.
2008-05-09 14:59 < gwern> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fi-chinainvest5-2008may05,0,5344367,full.story
2008-05-09 14:59 < Gracenotes> it would be incivil to post a shock image on a newspaper's comment section (if they would be stupid enough to allow images)
2008-05-09 15:00 < Gracenotes> goatses mixed in with content on ED is just their... uh... MO
2008-05-09 15:00 < Fireaxe888> # Wikipedia is not a weapon of mass destruction
2008-05-09 15:00 < Fireaxe888> Wikipedia is not a place for happy people
2008-05-09 15:01 < Fireaxe888> Wikipedia is not 1337. Not in the least
2008-05-09 15:01 < Gracenotes> yada yada copypasta
2008-05-09 15:01 < Fireaxe888> i love copy pasty
2008-05-09 15:01 < bumm13> Fireaxe888: o rly?
2008-05-09 15:01 < Fireaxe888> were would we be without it?
2008-05-09 15:02 < Fireaxe888> where
2008-05-09 15:02 < Fireaxe888> okay cya later
2008-05-09 15:02 < Fireaxe888> gotta sleep
2008-05-09 15:03 < Demi> i think cornishmen invented the copy pasty
2008-05-09 15:05 < PJasper> from corneria?
2008-05-09 15:05 < Gracenotes> latency seems to much lower on this Chinese site now than in the evening
2008-05-09 15:05 < Gracenotes> be
2008-05-09 15:23 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zach_Feinstein&action=history hmmm
2008-05-09 15:24 < The359> looks like Sockpuppet problem
2008-05-09 15:24 < The359> Check out the editing history of Moses Guthrie, Bluebelljoy, Karueter, and Djjohu
2008-05-09 15:32 < Mike_H> After Hager was granted permission by President Bush to marry Jenna, Hager proposed to her on Cadillac Mountain in Acadia National Park in Maine.[27] [28][29][30]
2008-05-09 15:32 < Mike_H> I love that
2008-05-09 15:32 < Mike_H> like we're in 1832
2008-05-09 15:32 < Mike_H> and Henry Hager needed to get Jenna's dowry
2008-05-09 15:32 < Mike_H> or something.
2008-05-09 15:32 < gwern> looks like Jenna's starting a new political dynasty
2008-05-09 15:32 < gwern> the bush women breed, the men run
2008-05-09 15:33 < Mike_H> rofl
2008-05-09 15:33 < Mike_H> Proposed to her on a mountain
2008-05-09 15:33 < The359> How drunk will she be on the honeymoon?
2008-05-09 15:33 < Mike_H> it's fuckin' Jenna Bush
2008-05-09 15:33 < Mike_H> he probably proposed to her ass at a Whataburger.
2008-05-09 15:33 < gwern> the bush twins don't get drunk; they get high on meds
2008-05-09 15:33 < gwern> (while drunk)
2008-05-09 15:34 < The359> Jenna Welch Bush (born November 25, 1981 in Dallas, Texas)[1] is an author
2008-05-09 15:34 < The359> AUTHOR?!
2008-05-09 15:34 < gwern> sure
2008-05-09 15:34 < gwern> barbra bush was a librarian and author, iirc
2008-05-09 15:34 < Mike_H> The359: You can be an author now if you just tell the ghostwriter what to say.
2008-05-09 15:34 < Mike_H> See, you don't even need to know how to write to be an author anymore.
2008-05-09 15:34 < gwern> author doesn't say much when we live in a world where peeps like madonna can sell well
2008-05-09 15:35 < The359> So why isn't Barbara getting married
2008-05-09 15:35 < The359> No one want her?
2008-05-09 15:35 < Mike_H> because she isn't a slut
2008-05-09 15:38 < The359> how many times has the article on Henry Hager been deleted so far?
2008-05-09 15:39 < kingturtle> rehi
2008-05-09 15:41 < bumm13> Mike_H: lol, Whataburger
2008-05-09 15:41 < bumm13> do those exist in Florida?
2008-05-09 15:41 < The359> It was clearly a Jack In The Box
2008-05-09 15:47 < Aqwis> wow
2008-05-09 15:47 < Aqwis> [[Tokyo]] is horrible
2008-05-09 15:51 < Mike_H> BAGHDAD - Shiite militants launched rockets toward the fortified Green Zone on Friday, taking advantage of a sandstorm that gave cover from attacks by U.S. aircraft. Some rockets fell short, including one that damaged the British Broadcasting Corp. bureau.
2008-05-09 15:51 < Mike_H> Crazy-ass bitches.
2008-05-09 15:51 < Mike_H> I really just want to let them fight it out amongst themselves.
2008-05-09 15:51 * Gracenotes applauds Mike_H's correct hyphenation
2008-05-09 15:51 < Mike_H> Clearly they don't give a rat's ass about freedom so let the strongest win and subjugate the rest.
2008-05-09 15:52 < Gracenotes> Mike_H: conflicts between groups is very advantageous for those seeking to control the groups
2008-05-09 15:52 < Mike_H> YANGON, Myanmar - Myanmar's military leaders seized aid shipments headed for cyclone survivors and told the top U.S. diplomat there Friday that they're not ready to let in American aid workers despite warnings the country is on the verge of a medical catastrophe.
2008-05-09 15:52 < Mike_H> Oh, and this pisses me off, too!
2008-05-09 15:53 < Gracenotes> it's been used very frequently in history. If the Iraqis unify they'll surely kick us out.
2008-05-09 15:53 < bumm13> gee, nobody saw that coming ;p
2008-05-09 15:54 < Gracenotes> the Hutus and Tutsis wouldn't hate eachother as much as they did if it wasn't for the British...
2008-05-09 15:55 < Gracenotes> *Belgians, apologies
2008-05-09 15:55 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: I think you have it right, actually, the first time
2008-05-09 15:55 < Mike_H> weren't the Hutus and the Tutsis in Rwanda?
2008-05-09 15:55 < Mike_H> That was British, not Belgian.
2008-05-09 15:56 < Gracenotes> eh. either way the Belgians also have other extraordinary contributions to world history, like the subtropical rubber plantations.
2008-05-09 15:56 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: you were mixing up the former Zaire and Rwanda
2008-05-09 15:56 < bumm13> yeah
2008-05-09 15:56 < Mike_H> they've both had hard times but they're quite separate
2008-05-09 15:56 < Mike_H> ;)
2008-05-09 15:56 < Mike_H> Independence from Belgium
2008-05-09 15:56 < Mike_H> - Date July 1, 1962
2008-05-09 15:56 < Mike_H> oh
2008-05-09 15:56 < Mike_H> I didn't know Rwanda was Belgian
2008-05-09 15:56 < Mike_H> :o
2008-05-09 15:57 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: sry
2008-05-09 15:57 < Gracenotes> I didn't know either. I hope Wikipedia's correct :<
2008-05-09 15:57 < Mike_H> Gracenotes: For things like that, they usually are.
2008-05-09 15:57 < Mike_H> bumm13: then was it Uganda?
2008-05-09 15:57 < Mike_H> that was British?
2008-05-09 15:58 < Mike_H> Independence from the United Kingdom
2008-05-09 15:58 < Mike_H> - Republic October 9, 1962
2008-05-09 15:58 < Mike_H> yay, I finally win
2008-05-09 15:58 < bumm13> must be :)
2008-05-09 16:08 < The359> Mike_H, regarding Myanmar
2008-05-09 16:08 < The359> I heard the US was considering saying "Fuck the government" and dropping aid to the people directly
2008-05-09 16:11 < atomicpotato> <The359> I heard the US was considering saying "Fuck the government" and dropping aid to the people directly <-- genius. Starting civil wars under the pretense of humanitarian activities.
2008-05-09 16:11 < The359> I wouldn't think civil war
2008-05-09 16:11 < The359> but more civilians being shot for accepting the aid
2008-05-09 16:11 < Aqwis> it *needs* civil wars
2008-05-09 16:12 < Demi> there's a reason those crates and bags are marked "USA"
2008-05-09 16:12 < Rayhou> does anyone consider him/herself advanced at wikicode? I need some help.
2008-05-09 16:12 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR KATZ!
2008-05-09 16:24 < Rayhou> anyone? I have a redirect that doesn't automatically redirect me.
2008-05-09 16:25 < The359> where?
2008-05-09 16:25 < Ceiling_Cat> link?
2008-05-09 16:25 < Rayhou> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rayhou/today
2008-05-09 16:26 < Rayhou> here, I tried to make a link that automatically shows the Holidays of the current date
2008-05-09 16:27 < cimon> Mark Pellegrini: you know of any way to get skype working on a non BSD copyleft platform?
2008-05-09 16:27 < Ceiling_Cat> cimon - no
2008-05-09 16:27 < Ceiling_Cat> as far as I am aware skype is windows only
2008-05-09 16:28 < cimon> windows, mac and freeBSD
2008-05-09 16:28 < cimon> At the very least.
2008-05-09 16:28 < bumm13> why just FreeBSD?
2008-05-09 16:28 < cimon> FREEbsd very recent.
2008-05-09 16:28 < bumm13> is it a binary-only deal?
2008-05-09 16:28 < Ceiling_Cat> Rayhou - you may not be able to do it
2008-05-09 16:29 < Monobi> BSD = ):
2008-05-09 16:29 < cimon> bumm13: brain damage at skype?
2008-05-09 16:29 < Ceiling_Cat> thus is the nature of wiki-syntax
2008-05-09 16:29 < Monobi> linux = :D
2008-05-09 16:29 < bumm13> ?
2008-05-09 16:29 < Monobi> windows = :\
2008-05-09 16:29 < Monobi> Mac = ):
2008-05-09 16:29 < Rayhou> I see... :(
2008-05-09 16:29 < Monobi> ?
2008-05-09 16:30 < Demi> it may be technical, or skype may use freebsd internally so they already had it laying around
2008-05-09 16:30 < Lycurgus> skype is not I think windows only but people who use it tend also to use Windows
2008-05-09 16:30 < bumm13> I don't see a FreeBSD version on their website, but I do see some sort of Linux version
2008-05-09 16:31 < bumm13> (requires Qt 4.2.1+, which is what KDE uses)
2008-05-09 16:31 < Lycurgus> and there's prolly a mac version (which is a BSD)
2008-05-09 16:32 < cimon> bumm13: all I know is what [[Skype]] says...
2008-05-09 16:32 < cimon> Maybe the wikipedia article is full of crap :)
2008-05-09 16:32 < bumm13> it must be then
2008-05-09 16:33 < bumm13> FreeBSD requires running the Linux version under the Linux compability layer, from what I'm reading
2008-05-09 16:34 < bumm13> the en: article on Skype also states this
2008-05-09 16:35 < Ceiling_Cat> hehe
2008-05-09 16:35 < Ceiling_Cat> another staunch republican family man is resigning today
2008-05-09 16:35 < Ceiling_Cat> this one was arrested for drunk driving on the way to see his mistress and the secret daughter he had out-of-wedlock with her
2008-05-09 16:35 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Vito Fossella]]
2008-05-09 16:36 < bumm13> fun fun fun
2008-05-09 16:36 < bumm13> well, he *was* going to see his daughter ;)
2008-05-09 16:36 < Ceiling_Cat> "pro-family conservative republican" is quickly becoming a synonym for 'hiding a terrible secret'
2008-05-09 16:37 < bumm13> haha
2008-05-09 16:37 < Ceiling_Cat> closet homosexual? Has a mistress? Like prostitutes?
2008-05-09 16:38 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, "democrat" is quickly becoming a synonym for 'anti-individualist socialistic freedom-hating tax-loving big-government idiot'
2008-05-09 16:39 < Lycurgus> so this is Monobi
2008-05-09 16:39 < Monobi> Lycurgus, ?
2008-05-09 16:39 < Ceiling_Cat> Monobi - the democrats are the party of big, fiscally solvent government. The republicans are the party of even bigger, fiscally insolvent government.
2008-05-09 16:39 < Lycurgus> you being discussed earlier as a right wing troll, I said I couldn't remember you as such but you've just confirmed it.
2008-05-09 16:39 < Lycurgus> *you were
2008-05-09 16:39 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, yes, in practice
2008-05-09 16:40 < Ceiling_Cat> Yes, reality has a way of doing its own thing
2008-05-09 16:40 < ybit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNP_array - anyone know where the estimate of 5-10 million SNPs in the human genome comes from?
2008-05-09 16:40 < Monobi> Lycurgus, I'm only right wing on taxes and guns. If those fall into place, everything else is perfect
2008-05-09 16:40 < Lycurgus> unlikely
2008-05-09 16:40 < bumm13> the U.S. government hasn't been fiscally solvent in what, almost 30 years?
2008-05-09 16:40 < Ceiling_Cat> bumm13 - uh, it was fiscally solvent under clinton
2008-05-09 16:41 < Ceiling_Cat> he balanced the budget, over tremendous republican opposition
2008-05-09 16:41 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, yes, but it accomplished that via immoral means
2008-05-09 16:41 < Ceiling_Cat> they said his budget would ruin the economy
2008-05-09 16:41 < Monobi> s/it/he/
2008-05-09 16:42 < Ceiling_Cat> once the republicans took power, they made sure to eliminate dangerous things like budget surplus and civil liberties
2008-05-09 16:42 < Demi> revenue was already going down under clinton
2008-05-09 16:42 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, as do democrats
2008-05-09 16:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Monobi - How many people did clinton imprison without trial?
2008-05-09 16:42 < Demi> i think a lot of things would have been better had gore been elected in 2000, but i doubt the economy would have really been one of them
2008-05-09 16:42 < Ceiling_Cat> With bush, there's at least ~600 that we know about
2008-05-09 16:43 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, how many guns did he grab from lawful citizens?
2008-05-09 16:43 < Monobi> The answer: too many
2008-05-09 16:43 < Ceiling_Cat> Monobi - You do not have an individual right to own a gun.
2008-05-09 16:43 < Ceiling_Cat> You have a right to use them as part of a militia
2008-05-09 16:43 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, that is were you are wrong
2008-05-09 16:43 < cimon> Mark Pellegrini: have you ever been worried about your involvement with [[Gay bathhouse] ?
2008-05-09 16:43 < Demi> what's a "lawful citizen"? someone who takes responsibility for the crimes committed with his firearm? show me someone who does that, Monobi.
2008-05-09 16:43 < Ceiling_Cat> You do have a right to a fair, speedy trail
2008-05-09 16:43 < Lycurgus> my position on taxes ought to please you unless you think society is supposed to exist without someone paying for it. I would have 3 tax rates. 0 for people making say less than $200K, 30% for 200K to $1 million and progressively more to 90% for the rest.
2008-05-09 16:43 < Ceiling_Cat> trial*
2008-05-09 16:44 < Demi> but that's a side issue anyway, the "gun control" advocated by democrats is weak sauce, it has nothing to do with anything. no one is going to take your precious guns away.
2008-05-09 16:44 < Monobi> Demi, it's the principle that counts... the government has no right to limit what you can and can't own
2008-05-09 16:44 < Demi> Monobi - that's an absurd statement.
2008-05-09 16:44 < Ceiling_Cat> Monobi - if that were true, where's my atom bomb?
2008-05-09 16:44 < Ceiling_Cat> I need it to hunt some beavers in my back yard
2008-05-09 16:45 < Demi> and it's one that wouldn't be agreed with by any political party or candidate, so it's not relevant, either.
2008-05-09 16:45 < Monobi> Demi, of course not. You should be allowed to own an RPG if you want. What you do with that is a different story. The populace is suppose to be well armed and be equipped to overthrow the government.
2008-05-09 16:45 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, you can do so as long as you cause no harm to anyone else
2008-05-09 16:46 < cimon> Mark Pellegrini: You might invest in the Loompanics Press book by Erwin "Filthy Pierre" Strauss, on basement nukes... I used to own that for a long time, and know the writer intimately...
2008-05-09 16:47 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, you can do whatever you want to do, as long as you cause no harm to another.
2008-05-09 16:48 < Demi> like i said, show me one gun owner who actually wants to be *responsible* for what is done with his precious guns, and i might change my opinion.
2008-05-09 16:49 < Monobi> Demi, doesn't matter if they want to be responsible or not
2008-05-09 16:49 < Monobi> They can still own a gun
2008-05-09 16:49 < Monobi> Unlike you I refuse to comply with an abusive government like the United States
2008-05-09 16:49 < Demi> Monobi - "unlike you"? you don't know anything about me.
2008-05-09 16:49 < Lycurgus> i prefer the right to bear arms to be preserved in societies without an inherent socialist bias
2008-05-09 16:49 < Lycurgus> like say the netherlands
2008-05-09 16:50 < Monobi> Lycurgus, gun ownership and socialism are incompatible
2008-05-09 16:50 < Lycurgus> if it's gonna be dog eat dog you want to be armed
2008-05-09 16:51 < Lycurgus> the original intent that an armed population would be resistant to tyranny is now completely moot
2008-05-09 16:51 < Monobi> Demi, of course I do, you've given your opinion on the government
2008-05-09 16:51 < Monobi> Lycurgus, it's not moot, just unfeasible, and that's because the gov't has oppressed us enough to that point
2008-05-09 16:52 < Demi> Monobi - actually, i haven't, i've told you that your little fantasy about gun ownership is politically irrelevant
2008-05-09 16:52 < Monobi> Demi, then inform me of your thoughts
2008-05-09 16:52 < Demi> Monobi - to what end?
2008-05-09 16:52 < Lycurgus> gun ownership and socialism are incompatible, but not in the sense in which they are in state capitalism which is probably what you are referring to.
2008-05-09 16:53 < Lycurgus> actually I take that back
2008-05-09 16:54 < Lycurgus> gun ownership in NOT incompatible with, just unnecessary for the purpose of defense from other human beings in socialism
2008-05-09 16:54 < Monobi> Lycurgus, of course not, because in Socialism the government controls the people
2008-05-09 16:55 < Lycurgus> so in real socialism such as existed in the israeli kubbutz or late spanish republic I expect you not only could but in fact in order to defend the revolution were encouraged to be armed
2008-05-09 16:56 < Monobi> Lycurgus, in practice, the first thing a ruling, totalitarian government does is disarm the populce
2008-05-09 16:56 < Monobi> *populace
2008-05-09 16:56 < Monobi> This is where the USA is headed, fast... towards totalitarians
2008-05-09 16:56 < Monobi> *totalitarianism
2008-05-09 16:57 < Lycurgus> pretty sure the revolutionary masses in Venezuela and other countries now moving to socialism in south america are armed
2008-05-09 16:58 < Lycurgus> *is
2008-05-09 17:00 < Monobi> Lycurgus, yes, but, the individuals don't comply with the government
2008-05-09 17:01 < Monobi> Lycurgus, and the gov't is unable to disarm the citizens
2008-05-09 17:02 < Lycurgus> it's revolutionary socialism idiot, the people are the government
2008-05-09 17:03 < patbam> can anyone point me to that tool that tells you what the most actively edited pages are?
2008-05-09 17:04 < Lycurgus> until they cede power to your political philosophy at which point they become the victims of government instituted to serve thier class enemies
2008-05-09 17:08 < Gracenotes> ..
2008-05-09 17:15 < Golbez> The Sun reporting Myanmar death toll could surpass tsunami once over.
2008-05-09 17:18 < Monobi> Oh well
2008-05-09 17:19 < Golbez> "THE death toll in cyclone-ravaged Burma could hit 500,000 – more than TWICE the total killed by the Boxing Day Tsunami."
2008-05-09 17:20 < gwern> isn't it incredible how the toll keeps going up?
2008-05-09 17:20 < gwern> I remember the early reports were in the few hundreds, and now we're at half a million?
2008-05-09 17:20 < Golbez> gwern- in this case, I think the later 350,000 are being added to the toll solely by disease and famine
2008-05-09 17:20 < Golbez> because at least with the tsunami, none of the counties were bitches about aid
2008-05-09 17:21 < gwern> that's true, but it still seems improbable the end result will be that high
2008-05-09 17:21 < Monobi> They don't need government aid
2008-05-09 17:21 < Golbez> also, numbers are slow in coming out due to the nature of the regime
2008-05-09 17:21 < Monobi> Some charities can donate
2008-05-09 17:21 * gwern is saddened there's no prediction market I can go to and sell short the half million estimate
2008-05-09 17:21 < Golbez> in the tsunami, the Burmese government heavily short-sold their number of casualties
2008-05-09 17:21 < Golbez> if they're doing that this time, the true numbers must be staggering
2008-05-09 17:22 < bumm13> yeah
2008-05-09 17:22 < Golbez> yeah, the government reported only 1/10th the generally accepted casualty figure
2008-05-09 17:22 < gwern> they could as easily be exaggerating
2008-05-09 17:22 < gwern> if they truly felt desparate, why would they turn US aid down?
2008-05-09 17:22 < Golbez> that would make sense if they were begging for aid, but they aren't
2008-05-09 17:23 < Golbez> Ban Ki Moon said their stance was absolutely unprecedented in modern history
2008-05-09 17:23 < Monobi> ..
2008-05-09 17:23 < gwern> yeah, because north korea never tried to pretend famines weren't happening?
2008-05-09 17:24 < Golbez> but that's different
2008-05-09 17:24 < Golbez> that doesn't have the same external impact
2008-05-09 17:24 < Golbez> you can'
2008-05-09 17:24 < Golbez> you can't look at a country from outside and just say, "yep, famine"
2008-05-09 17:24 < Golbez> but everyone in the world saw a category 4 destroy a city of six million people
2008-05-09 17:24 < Golbez> that gets noticed
2008-05-09 17:25 < Golbez> The Burmese government can't very well say, "nothing happening here, carry on"
2008-05-09 17:25 < Golbez> also, the fact that a few journalists have snuck in to the country and reported on conditions; that's harder to do in North Korea.
2008-05-09 17:25 < Monobi> Golbez, you can't compare this with New Orleans
2008-05-09 17:25 < Monobi> Not even comparable
2008-05-09 17:25 < Golbez> I wasn't.
2008-05-09 17:25 * gwern chortles. I bought a bunch of reps-win-presidency at 48 cents a share, and now they're at 59 cents. I sell at 60
2008-05-09 17:25 < Golbez> I never said I was.
2008-05-09 17:25 < ybit> how do you get a reference comment to like to the reference at the bottoom?
2008-05-09 17:26 < gwern> I'm almost done liquidating my IEM account. soon I shall decamp for the greener pastures of intrade
2008-05-09 17:26 < Monobi> Golbez, good, because the people of NO were given warnings many days in advance. It is their fault they didn't leave
2008-05-09 17:26 < Golbez> Where did I compare this with New Orleans? The two are superficially similar but that wasn't at all my point.
2008-05-09 17:26 < Golbez> the people of Rangoon and Irrawaddy received, so far as we know, little warning, and their government is certainly not being effective at disaster management
2008-05-09 17:27 < ybit> for instance, ... the U.S. article has "july 4, 1776" linked to a ref at the bottom of the page
2008-05-09 17:27 < gwern> wasn't barbra bush saying the burmese only knew when foreign agencies started reporting?
2008-05-09 17:27 < Golbez> ybit- one second
2008-05-09 17:27 < ybit> OKI
2008-05-09 17:28 < Golbez> well in that case
2008-05-09 17:28 < Golbez> you add a <ref>reference goes here</ref> to the part of text you want referenced
2008-05-09 17:28 < Golbez> then at the end of the article, add <references /> or just {{reflist}} and it will automatically display all of the references
2008-05-09 17:28 < Golbez> See this for some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Referencing_for_beginners
2008-05-09 17:30 < ybit> didn't see that, but i will look at it, and YAY! i ref'd correctly: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/SNP_array
2008-05-09 17:31 < gwern> looks broken to me
2008-05-09 17:31 < gwern> the ref doesn't go anywhere
2008-05-09 17:31 < Golbez> you added the ref, but it's invisible until you add a <references /> to the article
2008-05-09 17:31 < gwern> that's better
2008-05-09 17:32 < gwern> ybit: incidentally, how exactly are you using that long list of items?
2008-05-09 17:32 < gwern> ==Further Reading== might be better
2008-05-09 17:33 < ybit> my change was an actual reference to the estimated SNPs... and actually it's not estimated, they have been counted so i changed estimated to counted
2008-05-09 17:34 < Sfan00> Right
2008-05-09 17:34 < Leslie_S> bleh
2008-05-09 17:34 < Leslie_S> I got my commercial drivers permit today :)
2008-05-09 17:34 < Sfan00> Leslie_S: OK
2008-05-09 17:34 < Sfan00> So now you can't drink booze?
2008-05-09 17:35 < Leslie_S> Sfan00 not for two months.
2008-05-09 17:35 < [twisti]> hi, i have a rather complicated problem with wiki markup syntax. i am using mediawiki, but i believe the syntax is the same. would here be the right place to ask ?
2008-05-09 17:35 < Sfan00> O eat Poppy Seed Bagels :(
2008-05-09 17:35 < Leslie_S> Sfan00 no, they do real drug tests. i can eat purim cookies if i want.
2008-05-09 17:35 < Sfan00> [twist]: #mediawiki
2008-05-09 17:35 < [twisti]> nobody there could help me
2008-05-09 17:35 < Sfan00> Try the help section
2008-05-09 17:35 < [twisti]> so i figured, if its the same syntax, id try here
2008-05-09 17:36 < Sfan00> OK
2008-05-09 17:36 < Monobi> [twisti], ask the question
2008-05-09 17:36 < Leslie_S> Sfan00 but i can drive damn near the biggest thing allowed to be on the road!
2008-05-09 17:36 < [twisti]> its too complicated to be covered by that im afraid
2008-05-09 17:36 < ybit> ah, my first wikipedia edit as an official user ^^
2008-05-09 17:36 < [twisti]> alright
2008-05-09 17:36 < Sfan00> ybit: Hi