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2008-05-06 01:59 < Lucifer_Cat> user info box or something.
2008-05-06 01:59 < Lady_Aleena> Okay...but you don't know which item?
2008-05-06 01:59 < Lucifer_Cat> im trying to put myself to sleep so, sorry, cant look it up. too much work
2008-05-06 02:00 < Lady_Aleena> Ah.
2008-05-06 02:00 < Lucifer_Cat> also, i think it wasnt a bug at all
2008-05-06 02:01 < Lady_Aleena> Just something weird?
2008-05-06 02:03 < Lucifer_Cat> no.
2008-05-06 02:03 < Lady_Aleena> Strange?
2008-05-06 02:03 < Lucifer_Cat> i think yeah, i was trying to put a box somewhere and i didnt know how to get around your template thing
2008-05-06 02:04 < Lucifer_Cat> and i was trying and didnt get it right the first time...
2008-05-06 02:04 < Lucifer_Cat> so i thought maybe i should ask you..
2008-05-06 02:04 < Lucifer_Cat> but then after a bit of experimenting, got it right
2008-05-06 02:04 < Lady_Aleena> Okaybees.
2008-05-06 02:04 * Lady_Aleena is a template queen.
2008-05-06 02:05 < denelson83> No, you're not
2008-05-06 02:05 < denelson83> I'm the one who made the {{Coor Maidenhead}} template
2008-05-06 02:05 * Lady_Aleena pouts.
2008-05-06 02:05 < Lucifer_Cat> talking bout experimenting.... *sigh*... it was fun
2008-05-06 02:05 < Lady_Aleena> Please, may I be a template queen?
2008-05-06 02:05 < Lucifer_Cat> LA: Sure
2008-05-06 02:07 < Lady_Aleena> denelson: What does that do?
2008-05-06 02:08 < Lady_Aleena> Nevermind...though I am not surprised I don't know about it, since I am just a citizen's band radio user, not amater radio operator.
2008-05-06 02:09 < daveh3h> hello i am a amateur radio operator
2008-05-06 02:09 < daveh3h> can i help you today maam
2008-05-06 02:09 < daveh3h> also a former citizens band user
2008-05-06 02:10 * Lady_Aleena remembers skipping on her CB.
2008-05-06 02:10 < daveh3h> i used to talk on 36 lsb
2008-05-06 02:10 < Lady_Aleena> My handle on the CB is Fantasy.
2008-05-06 02:10 < daveh3h> am?
2008-05-06 02:10 < daveh3h> amplitude modulation?
2008-05-06 02:11 < bumm13> ick, CB
2008-05-06 02:11 < daveh3h> breaker breaker
2008-05-06 02:11 < Lady_Aleena> Channel 1, 19, or other channel that was clear, USB, LSB, or FM depending on the chatter.
2008-05-06 02:11 < daveh3h> any takers
2008-05-06 02:11 < bumm13> noisey as hell
2008-05-06 02:11 < daveh3h> i used to talk on 36 lsb to a guy in portland oregan and some other guys in texas
2008-05-06 02:12 < daveh3h> and 38 lsb to call cq
2008-05-06 02:12 < Lady_Aleena> Wow! Good skipping.
2008-05-06 02:12 < daveh3h> yeah
2008-05-06 02:12 < daveh3h> this was a few years back
2008-05-06 02:12 < Lady_Aleena> I never skipped that good.
2008-05-06 02:12 < daveh3h> i dunno how the skip is now
2008-05-06 02:12 < daveh3h> it comes and goes
2008-05-06 02:13 < Lady_Aleena> I don't even have my CB hooked up these days, though there are times I miss it.
2008-05-06 02:13 * Ceiling_Cat is reading bash.org
2008-05-06 02:13 < Ceiling_Cat> god I forgot how funny this is
2008-05-06 02:13 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.bash.org/?834654
2008-05-06 02:13 < daveh3h> my ham radio has all the channels so i check in to see what's going on but not much ever is
2008-05-06 02:13 < Ceiling_Cat> that's so absurd, it has to be true
2008-05-06 02:13 < daveh3h> the times when i am on, anyway
2008-05-06 02:13 < Lubaf> Zombies just want to eat flesh / Oh Zombies / They want to eat flesh...
2008-05-06 02:14 < daveh3h> mornings and evenings used to be a lot of propagation on the band about four years ago or so
2008-05-06 02:14 < Lubaf> Zombies / They wanna eat / Zombies / They wanna eat flesh / Zombies / Wanna eat...
2008-05-06 02:16 < daveh3h> y u wanna eat zombies lol
2008-05-06 02:16 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.bash.org/?803904
2008-05-06 02:16 < Ceiling_Cat> lulz
2008-05-06 02:16 < Lady_Aleena> We don't even have a base station set up, though there is a scanner around here somewhere.
2008-05-06 02:17 * Lucifer_Cat watches Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-06 02:18 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.bash.org/?587801
2008-05-06 02:18 < Ceiling_Cat> LOL
2008-05-06 02:19 < daveh3h> Lady_Aleena: how long has it been since you operated?
2008-05-06 02:19 < daveh3h> on cb
2008-05-06 02:19 < Lady_Aleena> Years...I haven't had one in this car yet, since I can't seem to find a place to put it.
2008-05-06 02:20 < Lucifer_Cat> lolwtf
2008-05-06 02:20 < Lady_Aleena> The last car I had one in, the the wires were messed up and my fiance never got around to fixing them.
2008-05-06 02:20 < The359> why would you CB while driving? Shouldn't you be, you know, paying attention to driving?
2008-05-06 02:20 < Lady_Aleena> The CB kept me awake while driving home one night. Without it, I may have fallen asleep at the wheel.
2008-05-06 02:21 < Lady_Aleena> Actually, that happened twice.
2008-05-06 02:21 < The359> well you shouldn't really be driving in that condition in the first place ;)
2008-05-06 02:21 < Lady_Aleena> Having someone, even a stranger, to talk to on a nearly empty road in the wee hours of the morning helps.
2008-05-06 02:21 < Lady_Aleena> I wasn't in that condition when I started the trips.
2008-05-06 02:22 < Lady_Aleena> It is called road hypnosis.
2008-05-06 02:22 < Lady_Aleena> or some such.
2008-05-06 02:23 < daveh3h> at night it's pretty easy to get distracted
2008-05-06 02:24 < Lady_Aleena> It was just seeing only a small patch of the road in front of my car that was in the headlight beams.
2008-05-06 02:24 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.bash.org/?764876
2008-05-06 02:25 < Lucifer_Cat> read that. and think its a lie.
2008-05-06 02:26 < Lucifer_Cat> or incredibly gay if true.
2008-05-06 02:26 < Ceiling_Cat> ROFL
2008-05-06 02:26 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.bash.org/?823214
2008-05-06 02:26 < The359> ...gay?
2008-05-06 02:26 < Ceiling_Cat> omg
2008-05-06 02:26 < JT> it's perfectly safe to use a cb whilst driving
2008-05-06 02:26 < JT> it's half duplex and you don't need to hold up the speaker to your face
2008-05-06 02:27 < The359> still can be a distraction
2008-05-06 02:27 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.bash.org/?3599
2008-05-06 02:27 < JT> it's not even half the distraction that a cellphone is
2008-05-06 02:27 < daveh3h> true
2008-05-06 02:27 < The359> I didn't say it was
2008-05-06 02:27 < The359> but even hands free cellphones are distracting
2008-05-06 02:27 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: lolz at that one
2008-05-06 02:28 < Lucifer_Cat> and i realize that i have read tooooo much QDB... i have read /all/ of those before
2008-05-06 02:28 < JT> and it's not half as distracting as a hands free cellphone :)
2008-05-06 02:28 < The359> it'd be just as distracting
2008-05-06 02:28 < The359> because you're paying attention to what they're saying and thinking of responses
2008-05-06 02:28 < JT> no
2008-05-06 02:28 < JT> i've used them all
2008-05-06 02:28 < JT> and it's not
2008-05-06 02:29 < The359> Just because you say so doesn't mean it isn't distracting
2008-05-06 02:29 < Lucifer_Cat> JT: you dont notice that cuz ure distracted
2008-05-06 02:29 < JT> not to the same degree
2008-05-06 02:29 < The359> how would it be any different
2008-05-06 02:29 < The359> it's the same basic setup
2008-05-06 02:29 < JT> on radio it's ok to leave a fair gap between bits of conversation
2008-05-06 02:30 < The359> that can just as easily happen on a phone
2008-05-06 02:30 < JT> if you stop responding for more than a second or two on the phone, the other end will be saying "hello??? hello??"
2008-05-06 02:30 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.bash.org/?454203
2008-05-06 02:30 < The359> Not really?
2008-05-06 02:30 < JT> i love it how people who've never used a 2 way radio whilst driving always try to convince me that it is as bad as using a phone whilst driving
2008-05-06 02:30 < JT> with no practical experience of such
2008-05-06 02:31 < The359> because those people aren't considering hands free phones?
2008-05-06 02:31 < JT> even compared with hands free
2008-05-06 02:31 < The359> even having a conversation with someone in a car can be distracting
2008-05-06 02:31 < JT> sure
2008-05-06 02:31 < The359> so don't give me this "degrees" bullshit
2008-05-06 02:32 < The359> it's distracting, period
2008-05-06 02:32 < JT> a pretty girl walking down the street can be distracting
2008-05-06 02:32 < JT> life isn't black and white, news flash
2008-05-06 02:32 < piksi> there have been actual studies that it's the distraction of conversation, not actually holding a phone on your ear
2008-05-06 02:32 < Ceiling_Cat> <Alanna> Saying that Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders
2008-05-06 02:32 < piksi> when people try to concentrate on what the other party in the phone is saying and driving
2008-05-06 02:32 * Ceiling_Cat LULZ
2008-05-06 02:32 < daveh3h> no good conversation ever takes place on a cb
2008-05-06 02:32 < The359> yes, like I said, you're concentrating too much on what the person is saying
2008-05-06 02:32 < The359> as well as what to say in response
2008-05-06 02:33 < piksi> Ceiling_Cat: ancient
2008-05-06 02:33 < piksi> ;-)
2008-05-06 02:33 < JT> radio conversations are much more disjointed than phone
2008-05-06 02:33 < piksi> Ceiling_Cat: but still awesome
2008-05-06 02:33 < The359> what difference does it make?
2008-05-06 02:33 < JT> daveh3h: yeah i just use commercial radios :)
2008-05-06 02:33 < The359> It's still a distraction
2008-05-06 02:33 < The359> it still takes your mind away
2008-05-06 02:33 < JT> everything is a distraction
2008-05-06 02:33 < The359> YOU were the one who said it wasn't a distraction
2008-05-06 02:33 < JT> no
2008-05-06 02:33 < daveh3h> jt: true
2008-05-06 02:33 < JT> i never said that
2008-05-06 02:33 < JT> i said it wasn't as much of a distraction
2008-05-06 02:34 < The359> well considering you can't have the same telephone call every time
2008-05-06 02:34 < The359> and you can't have the same CB conversation every time
2008-05-06 02:34 < piksi> saying "everything is a distraction" is quite pointless
2008-05-06 02:34 < The359> that's not an accurate comparison
2008-05-06 02:34 < The359> They both require you to listen to what someone is saying, and require you to think of responses
2008-05-06 02:34 < The359> period
2008-05-06 02:35 < The359> I don't care how long the break between sentences might be
2008-05-06 02:35 < JT> you like the word "period", don't you?
2008-05-06 02:35 < piksi> period
2008-05-06 02:35 < JT> you know it doesn't increase your authority
2008-05-06 02:35 < The359> every sentence still requires hearing it and thinking of a possible response
2008-05-06 02:35 < The359> Nitpicking words hardly helps your arguement, JT
2008-05-06 02:35 < JT> period
2008-05-06 02:35 < piksi> quadrupleperiod
2008-05-06 02:37 < piksi> i've stumbled upon some studies quoted in newspapers and also on eurekalert and iirc all were stating that the effort of concentrating in understanding the flow of conversation and the sentences and responses (whether it was talking with someone in the car or phone) is a major distraction
2008-05-06 02:37 < piksi> the actual device didn't matter all that much
2008-05-06 02:38 < piksi> but this is only iirc :-)
2008-05-06 02:38 < The359> using a hand to hold a phone usually wont slow your reaction time with braking, steering, or accelerating, since most people can handle driving one handed anyway
2008-05-06 02:38 < The359> Unless you have a manual transmission, then holding a phone is just stupid
2008-05-06 02:39 < JT> there are a lot of reports saying a lot of things, but i know when i've used hand held mobile phones whilst driving i've felt pretty unsafe and had a couple of dangerous situations, yet with the 2 way radio running, it's not much different to listening to music whilst driving
2008-05-06 02:39 < The359> bravo, you must be a fucking expert
2008-05-06 02:39 < The359> go write a study
2008-05-06 02:39 < JT> i use both hands when driving an auto too
2008-05-06 02:40 < piksi> and perhaps it's your subjective feeling of things not based on any real facts?
2008-05-06 02:40 < JT> piksi: perhaps it's called real world experience
2008-05-06 02:40 < The359> oh yeah
2008-05-06 02:40 < The359> because those reports are clearly not based on anyone's real world experiences
2008-05-06 02:40 < piksi> yes, a percentage of it is experience
2008-05-06 02:40 < piksi> but a bigger one is just a gut-feeling
2008-05-06 02:40 < piksi> world would be a frightening place if people could argue with only their feeling on things :-)
2008-05-06 02:41 < The359> Listening to music is not the same as listening to a CB, unless you're intentionally trying to listen to lyrics or something
2008-05-06 02:41 < The359> Nor are you thinking of a response or in reaction to what you hear
2008-05-06 02:41 < JT> here it is illegal to driving whilst using a handheld mobile phone, yet not to use a 2 way radio, do you think the lawmakers were guided by some feelings too?
2008-05-06 02:41 < The359> ...
2008-05-06 02:41 < The359> except we were discussing hands free
2008-05-06 02:41 < The359> since it is more similar
2008-05-06 02:42 < The359> Hands free isn't illegal
2008-05-06 02:42 < The359> we already established well before that hands free is less of a distraction
2008-05-06 02:42 < The359> but a distraction none the less
2008-05-06 02:42 < Mike_H> I never get used to hands free
2008-05-06 02:42 < piksi> simply because where you live it's not illegal doesn't mean it was based on well studied facts
2008-05-06 02:42 < Mike_H> or at least watching it
2008-05-06 02:42 < Mike_H> because it looks like the person is talking to themselves.
2008-05-06 02:42 < JT> i think earpiece based handsfree is more dangerous than a car kit
2008-05-06 02:42 < piksi> yeah
2008-05-06 02:43 < piksi> Mike_H: i often think people talk to me when they use hf, then i feel stupid as heck when i turn to them and start talking back :-)
2008-05-06 02:43 < piksi> JT: "i think" :-)
2008-05-06 02:43 < JT> piksi: ok? are we not allowed to have thoughts anymore?
2008-05-06 02:43 < JT> think logically about it
2008-05-06 02:44 < Mike_H> piksi: heh, I just give them weird looks, and then I see the thing in their ear, and I'm all, "ohhh..."
2008-05-06 02:44 < piksi> JT: i have thought and i have reinforced my thoughts with various independent studies and also my own experience of talking with someone in the car & talking to phone
2008-05-06 02:45 < piksi> you can't classify radio conversations and phone conversations as something completely different, you can have intense conversations on the radio and lazy conversations on the phone and vice versa
2008-05-06 02:46 < piksi> so it's the issue of using the conversation center in the brain, not the actual device/means
2008-05-06 02:46 < piksi> (of course if the device was super complex then it would add even more trouble in concentrating to driving)
2008-05-06 02:47 < piksi> Mike_H: back in the good old days it was easier just to classify them all as lunatics ;-)
2008-05-06 02:53 < Mike_H> piksi: heh
2008-05-06 02:53 * Mike_H NP: Mariah Carey - Honey (1997)
2008-05-06 02:53 < The359> Honey, you ain't got nothin on Mariah
2008-05-06 02:53 < daveh3h> mariah carey huh
2008-05-06 02:53 < Techman_16> how weird, registration for this server requires no e-mail addres
2008-05-06 02:53 < Mike_H> The359: You mean Mariah ain't got nothin' on me :DD
2008-05-06 02:53 < Techman_16> interesting
2008-05-06 02:53 < The359> hell no, bitch
2008-05-06 02:54 < Techman_16> no hostserv on this server?
2008-05-06 02:55 < The359> #freenode might help you, Techman_16
2008-05-06 02:55 < Techman_16> heh... if i need to get an oper to set me a vhost
2008-05-06 02:55 < Techman_16> i may as well not get one
2008-05-06 02:55 < The359> I meant for your questions
2008-05-06 02:55 < Wile_E_Coyote> Techman_16: : it's very easy to get one, just ask.
2008-05-06 02:55 * Techman_16 is lazy
2008-05-06 02:55 < Wile_E_Coyote> but it will be just unaffiliated/nickname
2008-05-06 02:56 * Techman_16 also has to finish his lab report
2008-05-06 02:56 < daveh3h> your teacher is probably drunk
2008-05-06 02:57 < Techman_16> mine?
2008-05-06 02:57 < Mike_H> The359: but as I've brought up before
2008-05-06 02:57 < Mike_H> the "Honey" music video is a good one.
2008-05-06 02:57 < daveh3h> yes
2008-05-06 02:57 < Mike_H> It's back when Mariah had her old boobs.
2008-05-06 02:57 < Techman_16> why is my teach drunk?
2008-05-06 02:58 < Techman_16> if anything, they'd be retarded
2008-05-06 02:58 < The359> I wouldn't know, Mike H
2008-05-06 02:58 < daveh3h> any teacher that comes near a lab is an alcoholic
2008-05-06 02:58 < The359> I don't watch Mariah Carey videos
2008-05-06 02:58 < The359> because I'm not gay ;)
2008-05-06 02:58 < daveh3h> it is a scientifically proven fact
2008-05-06 02:58 < daveh3h> I've never been gay. And under no circumstances could I imagine ever being gay in the future. It's not a choice I would make. Why would anyone? It's unnatural and almost beyond reasonable comprehension.
2008-05-06 02:58 < The359> .....wtf?
2008-05-06 02:58 < piksi> wtf
2008-05-06 02:58 < Techman_16> ...
2008-05-06 02:58 < daveh3h> I know there have been certain rumors floating about regarding my sexual orientation. Let me take this opportunity to say once and for all that I am not gay. Now, this does not mean I have something against gay people. It's fine with me if that's what you're into - it's just not what I'm into.
2008-05-06 02:59 < piksi> don't floodtroll ;-)
2008-05-06 02:59 < The359> explain, daveh3h?
2008-05-06 02:59 < daveh3h> I have several gay friends and they are nice people. Maybe the way I chat makes it seem more plausible or something but it is not true. I would also apreciate it if the people spreading this rumor would stop. Thank you.
2008-05-06 02:59 < Techman_16> i'm so surprised wiki has an IRC chan
2008-05-06 02:59 < Mike_H> daveh3h: rofl, wut
2008-05-06 02:59 < daveh3h> I am not a faggot myself, but lots of my friends are cocksuckers.
2008-05-06 02:59 < The359> .....
2008-05-06 02:59 < Mike_H> wait
2008-05-06 02:59 < Mike_H> what?
2008-05-06 03:00 < daveh3h> im drunk
2008-05-06 03:00 < The359> daveh3h, what the fuck is that?
2008-05-06 03:00 < Lady_Aleena> Techman_16: Don't be... :)
2008-05-06 03:00 < Techman_16> by the transitive property, that makes you a cocksucker ?
2008-05-06 03:00 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> I am not a faggot myself, but lots of my friends are cocksuckers.
2008-05-06 03:00 < daveh3h> lol
2008-05-06 03:00 < Mike_H> The359: I have such bitchface on right now
2008-05-06 03:00 < daveh3h> im sorry
2008-05-06 03:00 < Mike_H> if I took a picture, it'd be so priceless
2008-05-06 03:00 < The359> That doesn't look drunk to me
2008-05-06 03:00 < The359> It looks like copypasta
2008-05-06 03:01 < daveh3h> yeah it is
2008-05-06 03:01 < The359> ok, so why did you do it
2008-05-06 03:01 < daveh3h> i programmed it into my mirc about 2 years ago
2008-05-06 03:01 < Mike_H> what's that I smell?
2008-05-06 03:01 < Mike_H> was that fail?
2008-05-06 03:01 < daveh3h> actually 1
2008-05-06 03:01 < daveh3h> am i getting wikipedia trolled
2008-05-06 03:01 < piksi> eeww mIRC
2008-05-06 03:01 < The359> what, anytime someone says gay?
2008-05-06 03:01 < daveh3h> no i just type /notgay
2008-05-06 03:01 < daveh3h> and it says
2008-05-06 03:01 < daveh3h> I've never been gay. And under no circumstances could I imagine ever being gay in the future. It's not a choice I would make. Why would anyone? It's unnatural and almost beyond reasonable comprehension.
2008-05-06 03:01 < The359> don't
2008-05-06 03:02 < The359> ...
2008-05-06 03:02 < Mike_H> The359: oh, I wish I had a camera near me
2008-05-06 03:02 < Mike_H> my face
2008-05-06 03:02 < Mike_H> wow.
2008-05-06 03:02 < daveh3h> it's in my scripts
2008-05-06 03:02 < The359> well don't activate it
2008-05-06 03:02 < daveh3h> i've got a lot
2008-05-06 03:02 < bumm13> daveh3h: then stop using your scripts here
2008-05-06 03:02 < Mike_H> my only script is /age
2008-05-06 03:02 < Mike_H> I am 709469251 seconds old. (22.482204 years old) - DOB 11-11-1985 @ 15:15
2008-05-06 03:02 < daveh3h> oh i will
2008-05-06 03:02 < daveh3h> do any of you know dkey
2008-05-06 03:02 < daveh3h> here's one about dkey
2008-05-06 03:02 < daveh3h> Look jerkoff, if you're going to be merely running around poorly imitating dkey, then you are more of a loser than he is. You need to masturbate or something little kid.
2008-05-06 03:03 < daveh3h> he's on another network
2008-05-06 03:03 < The359> yeah, you just said you'd stop
2008-05-06 03:03 < Mike_H> bumm13: oh, honey
2008-05-06 03:03 < Mike_H> my face
2008-05-06 03:03 < Mike_H> it's like a mix between :o
2008-05-06 03:03 < Mike_H> and :*
2008-05-06 03:03 < The359> I was waiting for Mike_H to do that
2008-05-06 03:03 < Techman_16> ....
2008-05-06 03:03 < Techman_16> he fuck
2008-05-06 03:03 < Mike_H> The359: Oh, I was waiting for it to get truly unbearable
2008-05-06 03:03 < Techman_16> chnserv ?
2008-05-06 03:03 < Techman_16> *chanserv
2008-05-06 03:03 < Mike_H> I was fine being shocked
2008-05-06 03:03 < Techman_16> haven't seen that shit since ETG
2008-05-06 03:05 < Techman_16> ���Feel My Power��� I'm an OP in [20] channels and a HOP in [1] channel of the [33] channels on [6] servers i'm in, i own [681] people .��UPP��.
2008-05-06 03:05 < bumm13> ?
2008-05-06 03:06 < Techman_16> yay for UPP scripts
2008-05-06 03:07 * The359 doesn't see anything to yay about
2008-05-06 03:07 < Techman_16> you're right
2008-05-06 03:07 < Techman_16> i should own more people
2008-05-06 03:07 < The359> that's not really the direction I was going
2008-05-06 03:08 < Techman_16> my highest was 952 at one point
2008-05-06 03:08 < The359> and?
2008-05-06 03:08 < Techman_16> it's for e-penis bragging rights
2008-05-06 03:09 < The359> I noticed
2008-05-06 03:10 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> hey man
2008-05-06 03:10 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> what
2008-05-06 03:10 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> hey fella
2008-05-06 03:10 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> i think we're good friends right
2008-05-06 03:10 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> can you put in a good word for an unban
2008-05-06 03:10 < Mike_H> there
2008-05-06 03:10 < Mike_H> good word put in.
2008-05-06 03:10 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> for i am a thoughtful chatter and this ban is erreounous
2008-05-06 03:11 < The359> he called me bro
2008-05-06 03:11 < Mike_H> at least he's mixing it up.
2008-05-06 03:11 < Techman_16> should he PM bumm13 for unbanning?
2008-05-06 03:12 < Techman_16> and not Mike_H
2008-05-06 03:12 < The359> <daveh3h> hey bro
2008-05-06 03:12 < The359> <The359> don't call me bro
2008-05-06 03:12 < The359> <daveh3h> ok homeboy
2008-05-06 03:12 < The359> <daveh3h> i thought we were bros
2008-05-06 03:12 < The359> <daveh3h> im sorry
2008-05-06 03:12 < zocky> /join #mediawiki
2008-05-06 03:12 < zocky> beh
2008-05-06 03:12 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> thx
2008-05-06 03:12 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> i plan on sending you 1 million dollars if this unban comes through
2008-05-06 03:12 < Mike_H> <daveh3h> btw
2008-05-06 03:12 < Mike_H> ugh.
2008-05-06 03:15 * Techman_16 yawns
2008-05-06 03:15 < Techman_16> all-nighters suck
2008-05-06 03:16 < bumm13> daveh3h can take a break from this channel, it'll do him good :-)
2008-05-06 03:16 < Mike_H> bumm13: I totally sold you out
2008-05-06 03:16 < Mike_H> he asked me who to message
2008-05-06 03:16 < Mike_H> and I said you, because you banned him
2008-05-06 03:16 < bumm13> that's fine
2008-05-06 03:17 < Techman_16> wouldn't it be kinda obvious to PM an oper for unbanning purposes?
2008-05-06 03:17 * bumm13 NP: Monster from a Prehistoric Planet (1967)
2008-05-06 03:18 < Mike_H> bumm13: I sent him to #wikimedia-ops
2008-05-06 03:18 < Mike_H> someone else can turn him down
2008-05-06 03:18 < Mike_H> bleh.
2008-05-06 03:18 < bumm13> yeah, works for me
2008-05-06 03:19 * bumm13 wonders what compelled the Japanese to make cheapo movies with monsters destroying cities
2008-05-06 03:19 < The359> we don't do much better, bumm13
2008-05-06 03:20 < The359> Ever seen some of the movies made by the Sci-Fi Channel?
2008-05-06 03:20 < bumm13> at 2.5/10, it just misses being in the IMDb Bottom 100 list
2008-05-06 03:20 < Mike_H> The359: I liked Dark Shadows.
2008-05-06 03:20 < Mike_H> But they stopped airing that.
2008-05-06 03:21 < The359> isn't that a 70's vampire soap opera?
2008-05-06 03:21 < bumm13> (2.4 is the current threshold for list entry)
2008-05-06 03:22 < bumm13> I still fail to see how a movie like this is worse than one with Larry the Cable Guy in it ;p
2008-05-06 03:22 < bumm13> (or the Spice Girls)
2008-05-06 03:22 < The359> too many diehard fans voting it higher
2008-05-06 03:23 < Mike_H> The359: yeah
2008-05-06 03:23 < Mike_H> well, '60s/'70s
2008-05-06 03:23 < Mike_H> Sci-Fi aired it for years.
2008-05-06 03:23 < The359> ok, but I said movies made by Sci-Fi
2008-05-06 03:23 < The359> not soap operas aired by Sci-Fi
2008-05-06 03:25 < Techman_16> if i may be so forward as to ask
2008-05-06 03:25 < Techman_16> does anyone know the average age of people that idle here?
2008-05-06 03:26 < AdamBishop> it's hard to ask them if they are always idling
2008-05-06 03:26 < Techman_16> well... i refer to "idling" as people that come here and occasionally talk
2008-05-06 03:26 < Techman_16> i'm sure every one here at said some phrase before
2008-05-06 03:27 < The359> I doubt anyone keeps track
2008-05-06 03:27 < The359> nor do I doubt many here discuss their age
2008-05-06 03:27 < bumm13> I wouldn't count on that, actually
2008-05-06 03:28 < Techman_16> well... it's just this channel especially would have an interesting age gradient
2008-05-06 03:28 < Techman_16> since i know the ages of the channels i usually hang out in
2008-05-06 03:30 < AdamBishop> the people who do talk are usually teenagers, apparently
2008-05-06 03:30 * The359 wouldn't say that
2008-05-06 03:31 < The359> I'd say more college
2008-05-06 03:31 < The359> 20s
2008-05-06 03:32 < Techman_16> nice
2008-05-06 03:32 < Techman_16> i fit right in then
2008-05-06 03:32 < The359> you say that like it's a good thing
2008-05-06 03:33 < Techman_16> will all the bullshit i get, having small victories mean something
2008-05-06 03:33 < Mike_H> The359: you're such a crabby bitch
2008-05-06 03:33 < bumm13> oh wow, this one's looking really low-quality...
2008-05-06 03:34 < Techman_16> heh
2008-05-06 03:34 < Techman_16> naw, i''m just surprised to see a wiki channel
2008-05-06 03:34 < The359> No, I'm a sarcastic bitch
2008-05-06 03:34 < The359> This is mostly a help channel, Techman
2008-05-06 03:35 < The359> There are actually a couple dozen Wiki related chat rooms here
2008-05-06 03:35 < The359> all for help purposes
2008-05-06 03:35 < The359> but this one is the most leisurely and is more like a general, all topic chat room
2008-05-06 03:35 < Techman_16> cool
2008-05-06 03:37 < drkralle> Hello any Germans here ? I need help at me Wiki Projkt
2008-05-06 03:37 < Flo_1> drkralle: hm?
2008-05-06 03:37 < The359> For the German Wikipedia, drkralle?
2008-05-06 03:42 < drkralle> hi
2008-05-06 03:43 < drkralle> no for my own wiki project
2008-05-06 03:43 < The359> Is your WikiProject on the English or German Wikipedia?
2008-05-06 03:44 < drkralle> its my own project
2008-05-06 03:44 < drkralle> with the wikimedia technic
2008-05-06 03:44 < The359> ok
2008-05-06 03:44 < The359> well, you might have better luck finding Germans in #wikipedia-de
2008-05-06 04:14 < Mike_H> It's when Mariah had her old boobs, she'd lean in, squish her arms closer to her body, and move her shoulders, like she actually had a bigger rack or something.
2008-05-06 04:14 * Mike_H does Mariah's boob dance.
2008-05-06 04:14 * denelson83 yawns in Technicolor
2008-05-06 04:14 < denelson83> 144!
2008-05-06 04:23 < paza> hi, how is there some tutorial howto create infobox template ?
2008-05-06 04:27 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Infobox
2008-05-06 04:28 < Warpath> Mike_H, yeah it was worth looking then :(
2008-05-06 05:10 < mib_4mu729yo> Does anyone here speak Ukrainian? Are all months in Ukrainian masculine? How can I see that on a page at the Ukrainian Wiktionary (keyword)?
2008-05-06 05:10 * denelson83 is Uk-0, sorry
2008-05-06 05:11 < denelson83> #wikipedia-uk, maybe?
2008-05-06 05:11 < denelson83> Nah, that doesn't exist
2008-05-06 05:12 < Mike_H> Tvdm: I was going there to get you help
2008-05-06 05:12 < Tvdm> Oh, thanks! :P
2008-05-06 05:12 < Tvdm> :)
2008-05-06 05:13 * denelson83 smirks and shrugs
2008-05-06 05:13 < denelson83> Well, GIYF
2008-05-06 05:13 < AdamBishop> http://www.local6.com/news/16169506/detail.html
2008-05-06 05:14 < denelson83> AdamBishop: Nice Rickroll link there
2008-05-06 05:14 < AdamBishop> what?
2008-05-06 05:14 < AdamBishop> I was actually going to make fun of Mike for being from Florida
2008-05-06 05:15 < Mike_H> I don't make fun of you for being from Canada! :(
2008-05-06 05:15 < denelson83> How come so many wacky things happen in Florida?
2008-05-06 05:15 < AdamBishop> that's because no one gets accused of being a wizard in Canada!
2008-05-06 05:16 < Mike_H> :<
2008-05-06 05:16 < denelson83> wizard: When many cattle urinate at the same time
2008-05-06 05:18 < denelson83> http://serack.org/iamacanadian.mpeg
2008-05-06 05:19 < Tvdm> I've just Googled it, but I can't find it. The major problem is: what is the keyword to recognize a masculine word at, for example, http://uk.wiktionary.org/wiki/липень? Cause if I know the keyword, I can do the rest myself... ;)
2008-05-06 05:20 < AdamBishop> you mean what is the grammatical clue for the masculine?
2008-05-06 05:21 < Tvdm> Yes, what's the Ukrainian word for 'masculine'.
2008-05-06 05:21 < Mike_H> denelson83: ew, you all really pronounce 'couch' as 'coach'?
2008-05-06 05:22 < denelson83> No
2008-05-06 05:22 < denelson83> Heck, we say "chesterfield" up here
2008-05-06 05:22 < Tvdm> Cause I really am UK-0... ;)
2008-05-06 05:23 < Rinn> Mmm, those masculine Ukrainian months.
2008-05-06 05:23 < denelson83> Tvdm: You're not British?
2008-05-06 05:23 < denelson83> ;)
2008-05-06 05:23 < Mike_H> denelson83: but the commercial had
2008-05-06 05:23 < Mike_H> "a Chesterfield is a couch"
2008-05-06 05:23 < Tvdm> No, I'm Dutch....
2008-05-06 05:23 < Mike_H> and he said it like "coach"
2008-05-06 05:24 < Tvdm> I'm UK-0 and NL-5 ;)
2008-05-06 05:24 < denelson83> oh
2008-05-06 05:24 < AdamBishop> that's [[Canadian raising]]
2008-05-06 05:24 < Mike_H> It sounds retarded.
2008-05-06 05:24 < Mike_H> or, retorded.
2008-05-06 05:24 < denelson83> You mean retorded, right?
2008-05-06 05:24 < Mike_H> <33
2008-05-06 05:24 < denelson83> XD
2008-05-06 05:24 < denelson83> ROTFL
2008-05-06 05:25 < Mike_H> My grandfather apparently had a bad hick Canadian accent.
2008-05-06 05:25 * denelson83 hics
2008-05-06 05:25 < AdamBishop> only old people say chesterfield
2008-05-06 05:25 < Mike_H> He was from Manitoba
2008-05-06 05:25 < Mike_H> and grew up a lot of his later childhood years in North Dakota.
2008-05-06 05:26 < denelson83> No, he said "couch"
2008-05-06 05:26 < Mike_H> it sounded like coach to me
2008-05-06 05:26 < Mike_H> I'll listen to it again
2008-05-06 05:26 < denelson83> More like cuh-och
2008-05-06 05:27 < Mike_H> denelson83: you're right
2008-05-06 05:27 < Mike_H> he did say couch, but it was like
2008-05-06 05:27 < Mike_H> cow-och
2008-05-06 05:27 < Mike_H> it was definitely a Canadian accent at least.
2008-05-06 05:27 < denelson83> The background noise is just a little loud when he says it
2008-05-06 05:28 < Mike_H> you can just tell he's Canadian
2008-05-06 05:28 < Mike_H> apart from the whole Canada rant
2008-05-06 05:28 < Mike_H> his accent just sounds Canadian to me
2008-05-06 05:28 < Mike_H> it's like, you know an American didn't do it
2008-05-06 05:29 < Mike_H> especially how he says "not"
2008-05-06 05:29 < Mike_H> just the intonation, Americans wouldn't say it like that
2008-05-06 05:29 < denelson83> Almost like "gnat"
2008-05-06 05:29 < denelson83> oh
2008-05-06 05:29 < Mike_H> like, he says it like
2008-05-06 05:29 < Mike_H> "noht"
2008-05-06 05:29 < Mike_H> and we say "nawt"
2008-05-06 05:29 < denelson83> note?
2008-05-06 05:29 < Mike_H> yes, note
2008-05-06 05:30 < Mike_H> denelson83: usually Americans can tell where the Canadians are by some vowel combinations
2008-05-06 05:30 < Mike_H> or as I like to call it
2008-05-06 05:30 < Mike_H> "sorry dollar"
2008-05-06 05:31 < Mike_H> we pronounce the "o" in those words differently.
2008-05-06 05:31 < denelson83> ?
2008-05-06 05:31 < denelson83> oh
2008-05-06 05:31 < Mike_H> not like "soh-ree"
2008-05-06 05:31 < Mike_H> but "sah-ree"
2008-05-06 05:31 < denelson83> I getcha
2008-05-06 05:32 < AdamBishop> there is a Brock University here, which is generally seen as crappy, so we say "if you can walk and talk you can go to Brock"
2008-05-06 05:32 < AdamBishop> an American friend of mine was confused because none of those words rhymed for him
2008-05-06 05:32 < Mike_H> rofl
2008-05-06 05:32 < Mike_H> AdamBishop: it must be dialectical
2008-05-06 05:32 < Mike_H> they all rhyme to me
2008-05-06 05:32 < AdamBishop> I think he was from Chicago
2008-05-06 05:32 < Mike_H> oh, yeah, it wouldn't there.
2008-05-06 05:33 < denelson83> or Creston, IA?
2008-05-06 05:33 < Mike_H> Shi-cooooooaw-go
2008-05-06 05:34 < Mike_H> AdamBishop: I learned one thing from Canada's Next Top Model
2008-05-06 05:34 < Mike_H> actually, two
2008-05-06 05:34 < Mike_H> 1) Canadians talk funny
2008-05-06 05:34 < Mike_H> 2) Canada has really ugly women.
2008-05-06 05:35 < denelson83> o_o
2008-05-06 05:35 < Mike_H> denelson83: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwSKc_ISe6s
2008-05-06 05:35 < Mike_H> proof.
2008-05-06 05:35 < Mike_H> I remembered watching
2008-05-06 05:35 < Mike_H> and thinking
2008-05-06 05:35 < Mike_H> "Wow, these are the ten best they could get in Canada?"
2008-05-06 05:36 < Mike_H> and let's not even bring up Jeanne Beker as a guest judge.
2008-05-06 05:36 < Mike_H> She looks like the grandma from Dinosaurs.
2008-05-06 05:36 < denelson83> O_O
2008-05-06 05:36 < Mike_H> not guest judge, permanent judge
2008-05-06 05:36 < Mike_H> bah.
2008-05-06 05:38 < Mike_H> denelson83: omg
2008-05-06 05:39 < Mike_H> this picture is totally full of win
2008-05-06 05:39 < Mike_H> http://fourfour.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/06/cntm2_1_25.jpg
2008-05-06 05:39 < denelson83> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-05-06 05:39 < Werdna> I WOULD watch top model, but then I'd realise it's top model.
2008-05-06 05:39 < Mike_H> And if you think Jeanne Beker was on such a bent about fashion and youth
2008-05-06 05:39 < Mike_H> she'd get a damn face lift.
2008-05-06 05:40 < Mike_H> and that's not even bringing up Canadian top model Stacey McKenzie
2008-05-06 05:40 < Mike_H> who's totally a girl (totally srs)
2008-05-06 05:40 < Mike_H> http://fourfour.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/06/cntm2_1_6.jpg
2008-05-06 05:40 < denelson83> Mike_H: That's the love child of Seal and Sade
2008-05-06 05:41 < Mike_H> rofl
2008-05-06 05:41 < Mike_H> Smooth from a Rose?
2008-05-06 05:41 < Mike_H> or Kiss from an Operator?
2008-05-06 05:41 < denelson83> You took the words right off of my keyboard
2008-05-06 05:42 < Mike_H> If an operator offered me that
2008-05-06 05:42 < Mike_H> I'd hang up the phone.
2008-05-06 05:42 < denelson83> She could only kiss the mouthpiece of her headset
2008-05-06 05:42 < denelson83> And spread cooties all over the office
2008-05-06 05:42 < AdamBishop> well, none of the American ones are attractive either
2008-05-06 05:43 < denelson83> What about Germany?
2008-05-06 05:43 < Mike_H> AdamBishop: Hey, some of them are.
2008-05-06 05:43 < Mike_H> Name me one of those Canada girls who's attractive.
2008-05-06 05:43 < denelson83> Jillian Barberie?
2008-05-06 05:43 < Mike_H> http://fourfour.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/05/cntm2_1_29.jpg
2008-05-06 05:43 < Mike_H> denelson83: I meant from the Top Models.
2008-05-06 05:43 < denelson83> oh
2008-05-06 05:43 < denelson83> I don't even know who any of those men are
2008-05-06 05:44 < denelson83> What a drag
2008-05-06 05:44 < Mike_H> denelson83: Stop taking Stacey McKenzie's name in vain!
2008-05-06 05:44 < denelson83> Stacey McWho?
2008-05-06 05:44 < Mike_H> denelson83: the damn drag queen
2008-05-06 05:44 < Mike_H> smooth operator
2008-05-06 05:44 < Mike_H> remember
2008-05-06 05:45 < denelson83> Oh, I thought you meant RuPaul
2008-05-06 05:48 < denelson83> chatkill
2008-05-06 05:49 < Werdna> hi Anthere
2008-05-06 05:49 < denelson83> Well here they are, A&W, togerther again
2008-05-06 05:49 < Anthere> lo
2008-05-06 05:50 < Anthere> can someone summarize me in 5 lines what the CAMERA incident is ?
2008-05-06 05:50 < denelson83> Yeah, some guy photocopying his ass
2008-05-06 05:50 < Anthere> how is that unusual ?
2008-05-06 05:51 < denelson83> it ain't
2008-05-06 05:51 * The359 has no clue what anthere is talking about
2008-05-06 05:51 < denelson83> Oh, hey Wolf
2008-05-06 05:52 < Anthere> well, I heard talking about it several times in the past few days
2008-05-06 05:52 < Anthere> on the OTRS
2008-05-06 05:52 < Anthere> and then from coolcat on the lists today
2008-05-06 05:53 < Werdna> Anthere: oh, that.
2008-05-06 05:53 < denelson83> What happened?
2008-05-06 05:53 < Anthere> ah :-)
2008-05-06 05:53 < Werdna> Anthere: there's a summary linked to from the COMCOM site.
2008-05-06 05:53 < Werdna> let me see if I can find it
2008-05-06 05:53 < denelson83> comcom?
2008-05-06 05:53 < Werdna> communications committee
2008-05-06 05:53 < Anthere> the comcom site ?
2008-05-06 05:54 < denelson83> Oh, I thought that stood for "computer combat"
2008-05-06 05:54 < Anthere> I thought it was closed....
2008-05-06 05:54 < zocky> Anthere, there's the http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/US_Dept._of_Justice_IP_address_blocked_after_%27vandalism%27_edits_to_Wikipedia story
2008-05-06 05:54 < Werdna> Anthere: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents/Wikilobby_campaign
2008-05-06 05:54 < denelson83> ah
2008-05-06 05:54 < Werdna> Anthere: and the original statement: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents/Statement_re_Wikilobby_campaign
2008-05-06 05:54 < Werdna> Anthere: original statement is more useful, has no discussion
2008-05-06 05:54 < Anthere> you mean the otrs wiki ?
2008-05-06 05:54 < denelson83> Commons: Like 4chan, but with a purpose
2008-05-06 05:55 < Werdna> Anthere: short short summary here: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents/Statement_re_Wikilobby_campaign#Summary_of_evaluation_and_conclusions
2008-05-06 05:55 < Anthere> good, thanks. I go read
2008-05-06 05:59 < Anthere> I fail to understand how we could become aware of the emails of that google group
2008-05-06 06:00 < AAA^> can someone ban this guy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/172.162.41.33
2008-05-06 06:00 < AAA^> as a sockpuppet
2008-05-06 06:01 < AAA^> and he's currently active
2008-05-06 06:01 < denelson83> Done
2008-05-06 06:01 < AAA^> uhh
2008-05-06 06:01 < piksi> sockpuppet for what?
2008-05-06 06:01 < AAA^> IPs can't be blocked indefinitely
2008-05-06 06:02 < Warpath> hehe
2008-05-06 06:02 < AAA^> denelson83: and it's AOL too
2008-05-06 06:02 < AAA^> try blocking for 1-2 days
2008-05-06 06:02 < Warpath> AOL proxies can be banned for 1 year min
2008-05-06 06:02 < denelson83> done
2008-05-06 06:02 < AAA^> yeah, but there's no point
2008-05-06 06:02 < AAA^> heh, i finally did it
2008-05-06 06:03 < AAA^> managed to get the bugger blocked while he was active
2008-05-06 06:03 < piksi> he/she made 3 random uninteresting edits, how do you define a sockpuppet?
2008-05-06 06:03 < AAA^> he's a known vandal i watch
2008-05-06 06:04 < piksi> hmm, isn't sockpuppet someone who deliberately represents himself as something he isn't?
2008-05-06 06:04 < denelson83> yip
2008-05-06 06:04 < AAA^> no
2008-05-06 06:04 < AAA^> it's just an alternate account of someone
2008-05-06 06:04 < denelson83> Stupid a-hole-smell...
2008-05-06 06:04 < piksi> ah
2008-05-06 06:04 < AAA^> in this case, ban evasion
2008-05-06 06:04 < AAA^> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_UPN_Vandal
2008-05-06 06:04 < The359> well, a sockpuppet does pretend to be someone new
2008-05-06 06:04 < AAA^> i keep forgetting to write an LTA page
2008-05-06 06:04 < denelson83> LTA?
2008-05-06 06:04 < piksi> aah, so like clone accounts with fake ids
2008-05-06 06:04 < The359> hence they represent someone they aren't
2008-05-06 06:04 < AAA^> yah
2008-05-06 06:04 < The359> yes
2008-05-06 06:05 < AAA^> look at all the 172's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_The_UPN_Vandal