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2008-05-05 07:13 < Moro55> hi!
2008-05-05 07:19 < grobda24> HELLOOOO !!!!!
2008-05-05 07:20 < RambutanWP> !admin Active vandal needing blocking urgently http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&curid=1952670&diff=210299633&oldid=210299353
2008-05-05 08:11 < Werdna> jeez, wjbscribe is fast
2008-05-05 08:12 < Gambit> O_O
2008-05-05 08:12 < Gambit> what did he do? O_O
2008-05-05 10:21 < quanticle> Chirp.
2008-05-05 10:46 < Lubaf> 11:15: Rise Up And Kill: Mesmerizing audio-visual assault on the senses specifically designed to compel viewers to perpetrate violent atrocities. This week: re-enactments of medieval executions intercut with hardcore pornography and accompanied by organ music and sinister subliminal whisperings. (Producer Louis Cypher - Strobing Subtitles)
2008-05-05 10:50 < quanticle> Lubaf: Sound excellent :P.
2008-05-05 10:50 < quanticle> Er, Sounds, rather.
2008-05-05 10:50 < NoPegs> sign me up!
2008-05-05 10:51 * Lubaf is going through TVGoHome.com's archives; that's one of the better items.
2008-05-05 10:51 < NoPegs> link?
2008-05-05 10:52 < Lubaf> NoPegs: tvgohome.com; be warned, while it's text, a lot of it is very NSFW.
2008-05-05 10:54 < Lubaf> Ah. There we are.
2008-05-05 10:54 * Lubaf was looking for the Tetris: The movie bit.
2008-05-05 10:59 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-05-05 10:59 < Lubaf> What's new?
2008-05-05 11:00 < quanticle> Not much. I've got a day off today.
2008-05-05 11:05 < quanticle> EULA Must Die - When you buy a book, you can resell it on Amazon to make a couple of bucks. You can't do the same thing with most software. How about the right to resell tech products you have purchased?
2008-05-05 11:11 < TheWeasel> erev tov.
2008-05-05 11:11 < TheWeasel> Is "one of the only" good English?
2008-05-05 11:12 < TheWeasel> Shouldn't it be "one of the few"?
2008-05-05 11:12 < kenlyric> context
2008-05-05 11:12 < TheWeasel> it was something like "the zoo keeps one of the only surviving specimens of the species"
2008-05-05 11:13 < kenlyric> few
2008-05-05 11:13 < TheWeasel> or "last"
2008-05-05 11:13 < TheWeasel> maybe the confusion stems from the fact that there is a relative use of "last"
2008-05-05 11:13 < kenlyric> they're all fairly interchangeable in common usage.
2008-05-05 11:14 < TheWeasel> but none of "only", to my knowledge
2008-05-05 11:14 < kenlyric> few is the least vague.
2008-05-05 11:14 < TheWeasel> I was wondering whether to correct it
2008-05-05 11:15 * Mike_H pets TheWeasel
2008-05-05 11:15 < TheWeasel> then decided not to
2008-05-05 11:15 * TheWeasel is one of the only mustelids currently being petted
2008-05-05 11:15 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-05-05 11:16 < TheWeasel> But I need something to drink, fridge's empty, so bbl.
2008-05-05 11:18 < quanticle> TheWeasel: In that context "one of the only" is probably correct, but "one of the only surviving" would probably be better.
2008-05-05 11:18 < TheWeasel> so there is a relative use of "only" after all
2008-05-05 11:19 < quanticle> TheWeasel: I guess so, I'm not an English grammar expert. I just pick up writing style by reading lots of good books.
2008-05-05 11:19 < TheWeasel> the funny thing is that German slang sometimes constructs a superlative of "only"
2008-05-05 11:19 < TheWeasel> "das einzigste Tier"
2008-05-05 11:20 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Onliest?
2008-05-05 11:20 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-05-05 11:20 < TheWeasel> ;.D
2008-05-05 11:20 < quanticle> So onliest or "most only" would be equivalent to our "last"?
2008-05-05 11:20 < TheWeasel> it's erroneous use
2008-05-05 11:21 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Heh. Most slang is.
2008-05-05 11:21 < TheWeasel> it's usually beaten out of children at school with the phrase "nothing is singler than single"
2008-05-05 11:21 < TheWeasel> "nichts ist einziger als einzig"
2008-05-05 11:22 < TheWeasel> it's more like the comparative of "unique" maybe
2008-05-05 11:22 < TheWeasel> "which makes this a more unique experience"
2008-05-05 11:22 < TheWeasel> which if you have a strict notion of "unique", is nonsense
2008-05-05 11:22 < quanticle> Ah. Heh. That doesn't make any sense either, since uniqueness is a binary quality.
2008-05-05 11:23 < TheWeasel> unique is used to mean "remarkable" nowadays
2008-05-05 11:23 < quanticle> Its like saying that woman is "more pregnant".
2008-05-05 11:23 < gwern> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/05/funny-pictures-fly-u-foolz/ <-- gandolf kitteh gives good advise
2008-05-05 11:23 < TheWeasel> yep
2008-05-05 11:23 < kenlyric> or as emphasis on unique
2008-05-05 11:23 < TheWeasel> slightly dead
2008-05-05 11:24 < kenlyric> And she's not only merely dead She's really most sincerely dead
2008-05-05 11:24 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-05-05 11:24 < TheWeasel> kenlyric: Expired and gone to meet its maker.
2008-05-05 11:24 < TheWeasel> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/funny-pictures-hippo-salad-thrown.jpg
2008-05-05 11:24 < gwern> quanticle: what if one woman is preggers with octuplets, and another with a single fetus? wouldn't the former be more pregnant?
2008-05-05 11:24 < gwern> eight times more pregnant?
2008-05-05 11:24 < quanticle> gwern: I like this one: "You killed a man? I jus' scratched sofa..." http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/05/funny-pictures-i-jus-scratch-sofa/
2008-05-05 11:24 < TheWeasel> "more richly pregnant" maybe
2008-05-05 11:25 < quanticle> gwern: Perhaps.
2008-05-05 11:25 < gwern> quanticle: did he scratch a sofa in reno just to watch it rip?
2008-05-05 11:25 < kenlyric> you could also use it as a function of time
2008-05-05 11:25 < kenlyric> more pregnant = further along in pregnancy
2008-05-05 11:25 < TheWeasel> it's more the modifiers making it smaller
2008-05-05 11:25 < TheWeasel> that are the problem
2008-05-05 11:25 < TheWeasel> "quite pregnant"
2008-05-05 11:25 < Mike_H> "Daria said Mystik Spiral sounds like a Doors cover band that'd play at brew pubs."
2008-05-05 11:25 < Mike_H> "Maybe you're right. Would it help if we spell Mystik with two y's?"
2008-05-05 11:25 < Mike_H> "And I'll spell my name D-A-R-Y-A, and be crowned Miss America."
2008-05-05 11:25 < Mike_H> <3
2008-05-05 11:25 < kenlyric> very pregnant is commonly used to mean very close to delivery
2008-05-05 11:26 < TheWeasel> LaMystyqua
2008-05-05 11:26 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: that's so true, though
2008-05-05 11:26 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: It sounds like the abandoned child of Frank Zappa
2008-05-05 11:26 < Mike_H> "Darya" would be a total Miss America name
2008-05-05 11:26 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: In the late '80s or early '90s
2008-05-05 11:26 < Fabexplosive> hey Mike_H, TheWeasel
2008-05-05 11:26 < TheWeasel> Amur-Darya or Syr-Darya?
2008-05-05 11:27 < Mike_H> there was a winner named "Debbye"
2008-05-05 11:27 < Mike_H> and then one named "Kellye"
2008-05-05 11:27 < TheWeasel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amu_Darya or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syr_Darya ?
2008-05-05 11:27 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-05-05 11:27 < TheWeasel> hint: both are equally unappealing
2008-05-05 11:27 < TheWeasel> oh
2008-05-05 11:27 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: oh psh
2008-05-05 11:27 < Mike_H> Debbye Turner (born September 19, 1965 in Honolulu, Hawaii) is an American veterinarian, talk show host, and former beauty queen. Turner was Miss America 1990.
2008-05-05 11:27 * TheWeasel should name self Weasele
2008-05-05 11:28 < Mike_H> Kellye Cash from Memphis, Tennessee, was Miss America 1987.
2008-05-05 11:28 < TheWeasel> that sounds vaguely Swabian
2008-05-05 11:28 < TheWeasel> pronounced KELL-yah?
2008-05-05 11:28 < Mike_H> No
2008-05-05 11:28 < Mike_H> pronounced "Kelly"
2008-05-05 11:28 < TheWeasel> SILENT E IS PEOPLE!
2008-05-05 11:28 < quanticle> Hehe - "Unexpected fractal result in Schroedinger experiment":http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/05/02/funny-pictures-schrodinger-xperimint/
2008-05-05 11:28 < Sfan00> Hi Weasel
2008-05-05 11:28 < Sfan00> ;)
2008-05-05 11:28 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: "Debbye" is also pronounced like "Debbie"
2008-05-05 11:28 < TheWeasel> from Justine to Kellye
2008-05-05 11:29 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: you just made a shitty musical sound like a hot porn!
2008-05-05 11:29 < TheWeasel> not to be confused with the tennis commedy "from Justine to Kimmie"
2008-05-05 11:29 < TheWeasel> -m
2008-05-05 11:29 < TheWeasel> (in "comedy")
2008-05-05 11:29 < Sfan00> qunricle: At least it wasn't a cat-astrophic failure ;)
2008-05-05 11:29 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: the sad thing is I know who you were talking about in tennis
2008-05-05 11:29 < Mike_H> aren't they both Belgian?
2008-05-05 11:29 * TheWeasel nods
2008-05-05 11:29 < TheWeasel> they are.
2008-05-05 11:30 < Mike_H> Justine Henin-Hardenne
2008-05-05 11:30 < Mike_H> and Kim Clijsters
2008-05-05 11:30 < TheWeasel> I don't think her name is Hardenne any more
2008-05-05 11:30 < TheWeasel> but I'm not sure
2008-05-05 11:30 < Mike_H> oh no?
2008-05-05 11:30 < TheWeasel> I have no idea really.
2008-05-05 11:30 < TheWeasel> I thought I heard such a thing
2008-05-05 11:30 < TheWeasel> "Justine Henin ((listen (help·info)) (previously Justine Henin-Hardenne), (born June 1, 1982 in Liège) is a Belgian professional tennis player. She is currently ranked World No. 1."
2008-05-05 11:30 < TheWeasel> there
2008-05-05 11:31 < quanticle> Sfan: Heh.
2008-05-05 11:31 < TheWeasel> her backhand is the best in the game, male or female, imho.
2008-05-05 11:31 < TheWeasel> "...which John McEnroe has described as the best single-handed backhand in the women's or men's game"
2008-05-05 11:31 < TheWeasel> or looka there
2008-05-05 11:31 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Really? Justine Henin is still ranked number one?
2008-05-05 11:31 < TheWeasel> seems so
2008-05-05 11:31 < quanticle> I thought she'd quit tennis for a while due to some personal issues.
2008-05-05 11:31 < Mike_H> How long has she been ranked #1?
2008-05-05 11:32 < Mike_H> it seems like forever
2008-05-05 11:32 < Mike_H> since like 1998 or something
2008-05-05 11:32 < TheWeasel> http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/rankings/singles_numeric.asp
2008-05-05 11:32 < TheWeasel> oh, there've been other No. 1s in between
2008-05-05 11:32 < quanticle> Serena Williams was ranked #1 at one point.
2008-05-05 11:32 < TheWeasel> Sharapova/Williams and such
2008-05-05 11:33 < Mike_H> Serena is such a tranny
2008-05-05 11:33 < Mike_H> she was totally not born a chick
2008-05-05 11:33 < TheWeasel> Mauresmo too.
2008-05-05 11:33 < TheWeasel> argh
2008-05-05 11:33 < TheWeasel> bad context
2008-05-05 11:33 < TheWeasel> not "born a man"
2008-05-05 11:33 < TheWeasel> but No. 1
2008-05-05 11:33 < TheWeasel> that was terrible timing
2008-05-05 11:33 < quanticle> TheWeasel: No, the context was fine.
2008-05-05 11:33 < Mike_H> <3
2008-05-05 11:33 < TheWeasel> :-/
2008-05-05 11:33 < Mike_H> quanticle: what is the masculine form of Amelie anyway?
2008-05-05 11:33 < quanticle> TheWeasel: The first thing I said when I saw Mauresmo was, "That's no chick."
2008-05-05 11:34 < TheWeasel> There is none.
2008-05-05 11:34 < TheWeasel> Amelie is a made-up name?
2008-05-05 11:34 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Fine, she is now Andre.
2008-05-05 11:34 < TheWeasel> think it is
2008-05-05 11:34 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Well, its the French form of Amelia, so I guess so.
2008-05-05 11:34 < TheWeasel> "améliorer" means "to improve"
2008-05-05 11:34 < TheWeasel> it might be constructed from that
2008-05-05 11:35 < TheWeasel> okay, brb
2008-05-05 11:35 < Mike_H> She's not improving against Justine Henin
2008-05-05 11:35 < TheWeasel> Justine pwns.
2008-05-05 11:35 < Gazimoff> 'lo
2008-05-05 11:36 < TheWeasel> Sharapova may be the most leered-after, but Henin clearly plays the best game
2008-05-05 11:36 < Mike_H> Isn't Sharapova known for not knowing much about tennis?
2008-05-05 11:36 < quanticle> Heh. Was I the only one disappointed in the women's Wimbledon matchup last year?
2008-05-05 11:36 < Mike_H> No, wait
2008-05-05 11:36 < Mike_H> that's Anna Kournikova
2008-05-05 11:36 < TheWeasel> Sharapova is mostly known for being one of the least liked players of all times.
2008-05-05 11:36 < quanticle> Mike_H: Yeah. Anna Kournikova never won a championship, though.
2008-05-05 11:36 < TheWeasel> she takes "rude" to entirely new levels
2008-05-05 11:37 < TheWeasel> Kournikova is entirely a media product
2008-05-05 11:37 < Mike_H> Anna Kournikova is the one more known for her cameltoe under her short tennis skirt than her actual play.
2008-05-05 11:37 < TheWeasel> I think her best position in the world was No. 5
2008-05-05 11:37 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Not to mention the 120Db scream every time she hits the ball.
2008-05-05 11:37 < cimon> TheWeasel: Sharapova isn't the most leered-after anymore. She used to be. There is one who can both play, and is easy on the eyes now. I don't recall her name though.
2008-05-05 11:37 < TheWeasel> Sharapova is good, just rude as fuck.
2008-05-05 11:37 < TheWeasel> sense of entitlement out of the roof.
2008-05-05 11:38 < TheWeasel> really annoying girl
2008-05-05 11:38 < cimon> I wouldn't say sharapova is rude, but a bit vain, that she is.
2008-05-05 11:38 < quanticle> And what's more annoying, she actually wins.
2008-05-05 11:38 < TheWeasel> I've always loved down-to-earth players like Sanchez-Vicario.
2008-05-05 11:39 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Christ, how do you spell her first name?
2008-05-05 11:39 < Mike_H> let me try
2008-05-05 11:39 < Mike_H> Aranxa?
2008-05-05 11:39 < TheWeasel> those aren't awfully common now nouveaux-riches have taken over the sport
2008-05-05 11:39 < TheWeasel> Arantxa
2008-05-05 11:39 < Mike_H> oh, I missed a t
2008-05-05 11:39 < cimon> Someone who is that good, can afford to be a bit vain. Kournikova tried to be a diva, but she didn't have the skill to back it up.
2008-05-05 11:39 < TheWeasel> (it's Catalan)
2008-05-05 11:39 < TheWeasel> Yea, I just don't like the attitude.
2008-05-05 11:39 < TheWeasel> it repulses me.
2008-05-05 11:39 < Mike_H> Anna Kournikova sported some massive cameltoe
2008-05-05 11:39 < Mike_H> that's what she was known for in the US
2008-05-05 11:39 < Mike_H> lots of cameltoe
2008-05-05 11:40 < quanticle> Mike_H: That and her utter and complete lack of skill.
2008-05-05 11:40 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: That was the most memorable thing about her career as far as I'm concerned.
2008-05-05 11:40 < TheWeasel> I think it's the nouveau riche culture that is creeping into tennis
2008-05-05 11:41 < TheWeasel> that does great harm
2008-05-05 11:41 < TheWeasel> to the culture
2008-05-05 11:41 < TheWeasel> people who are massively sponsored without the character to be graceful about it
2008-05-05 11:42 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: that sounds like models
2008-05-05 11:42 < TheWeasel> I mean you had to be feeling for Jenny Capriati I guess... those poor people ain't the problem, the problem is the culture of princesses.
2008-05-05 11:43 < TheWeasel> gigantic egoes and senses of entitlement
2008-05-05 11:44 < Mike_H> Daria Werbowy (born November 19, 1983) is a Ukrainian-Canadian supermodel.
2008-05-05 11:44 < Mike_H> she thinks she's hot shit
2008-05-05 11:44 < Mike_H> although her looks are fading as we speak, at least in model terms
2008-05-05 11:44 < quanticle> TheWeasel: To be honest, I think the last somewhat humble tennis player is Justine Henin. Well, the last humble player in the top ten at any rate.
2008-05-05 11:44 < TheWeasel> she's about my age
2008-05-05 11:44 < TheWeasel> that's sad
2008-05-05 11:44 < TheWeasel> yep.
2008-05-05 11:44 * TheWeasel is a massive Henin fan as one may have gathered
2008-05-05 11:45 < TheWeasel> while there are a few pretty good guys on the ATP tour
2008-05-05 11:45 < quanticle> Mike_H: Indeed.
2008-05-05 11:45 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Gisele is still the #1 supermodel in the world
2008-05-05 11:45 < Mike_H> in terms of pay
2008-05-05 11:45 < Mike_H> Kate Moss is second
2008-05-05 11:45 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-05-05 11:45 < Mike_H> Gisele is a right bitch. She made the news for smarting off to paparazzi. It was not graceful.
2008-05-05 11:45 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Federer got rocked in the Austrailian, didn't he?
2008-05-05 11:46 < TheWeasel> he did
2008-05-05 11:46 < TheWeasel> exciting new people, Tsongas, then Tipsarevic who's one of the coming guys for sure.
2008-05-05 11:46 < TheWeasel> who Roger struggled against
2008-05-05 11:46 < Mike_H> Although raised as a Roman Catholic,[42] Bundchen did not agree with statements regarding condom use made by Pope Benedict XVI during his official visit to Brazil [43]. Bundchen was quoted with saying, "To prohibit condoms is ridiculous, just think of all the diseases transmitted without them," and asking, "How is it possible to not want people to use condoms and also not have abortions? It's impossible, I'm sorry."[44]
2008-05-05 11:47 < TheWeasel> GO TO HELL, GISELE!
2008-05-05 11:47 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Not to mention James Blake...
2008-05-05 11:48 < TheWeasel> yea, he's never quite the great he could be, but pretty close
2008-05-05 11:48 < quanticle> I see Blake as the next hope for American tennis, after the utter fail that was Andy Roddick's career.
2008-05-05 11:48 < TheWeasel> and then of course Murray if he'd get his act together
2008-05-05 11:48 < TheWeasel> good lad.
2008-05-05 11:49 * Mike_H NP: Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing (1979)
2008-05-05 11:49 < Mike_H> I haven't listened to this song in nearly a day!
2008-05-05 11:49 * Mike_H dances
2008-05-05 11:49 < isdead> cool
2008-05-05 11:49 < isdead> I like that song
2008-05-05 11:49 < TheWeasel> my least favorite top player is that Cypriot guy with the clueless fans
2008-05-05 11:49 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Who?
2008-05-05 11:50 < TheWeasel> Baghdatis
2008-05-05 11:50 < TheWeasel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_Baghdatis#2008_Australian_Open_controversy
2008-05-05 11:50 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: is that the guy who hit himself with the racket?
2008-05-05 11:51 < TheWeasel> his rabid fans couldn't for the life of them tell good tennis from bad
2008-05-05 11:51 < TheWeasel> I don't know?
2008-05-05 11:51 * TheWeasel used to throw rackets regularly when he was active
2008-05-05 11:52 < Mike_H> On April 1st, Youzhny became the talk of the tennis world: While playing a match against Nicolas Almagro of Spain, Youzhny first hit a relatively easy return into the net, and after gesturing angrily towards his own temple, he proceeded to hit his head with the side of his tennis racket 3 times, drawing blood.
2008-05-05 11:52 * TheWeasel got cautioned more times than he can count
2008-05-05 11:52 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Really? You don't come across as the sort of fellow who would do that.
2008-05-05 11:52 * TheWeasel was never good at this decorum thing :-D
2008-05-05 11:52 < TheWeasel> I was 13 or so.
2008-05-05 11:52 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: The McEnroe thing is so 1981
2008-05-05 11:52 < Mike_H> get with it!
2008-05-05 11:52 < TheWeasel> it doesn't much matter in my case.
2008-05-05 11:53 * quanticle doesn't throw rackets, because that tends to increase his anger, leading to worse play
2008-05-05 11:53 < Mike_H> I don't play tennis
2008-05-05 11:53 < Mike_H> because
2008-05-05 11:53 < Mike_H> let's be real
2008-05-05 11:53 < TheWeasel> Mike_H: Well yea, the new thing is shouting abuse at the ump (which I never did)
2008-05-05 11:53 < Mike_H> fat people just don't wear white.
2008-05-05 11:53 < TheWeasel> I only shouted abuse at myself which I was cautioned for as well.
2008-05-05 11:53 < quanticle> Mike_H: Heh. Don't want the "beluga" appelation?
2008-05-05 11:53 < Mike_H> not really, no
2008-05-05 11:53 < TheWeasel> you don't need to wear white any more
2008-05-05 11:54 < TheWeasel> not for the last ten years
2008-05-05 11:54 < quanticle> Mike_H: Yeah, if you look at the pro-tour, very few players these days actually wear white.
2008-05-05 11:54 < TheWeasel> I never wore white because the way I played, that was red at the end.
2008-05-05 11:55 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Wimbledon might have some kind of rule about that though, since players always wear white at Wimbledon.
2008-05-05 11:55 < TheWeasel> yea, I think it's still required there.
2008-05-05 11:55 * quanticle shortens Looooooooong_Cat
2008-05-05 11:56 < TheWeasel> if you're Boris Becker, you'll still end up being red on clay.
2008-05-05 11:56 < Short_Cat> bitch
2008-05-05 11:56 < Short_Cat> lol
2008-05-05 11:56 < Short_Cat> <3
2008-05-05 11:59 < MidasWS> I'm trying to upload a file on da.wikipedia.org but it tells me this is only possible for registered users and administrators. I have registered and confirmed registration through email. What now?
2008-05-05 11:59 < quanticle> MidasWS: Have you logged in?
2008-05-05 11:59 < MidasWS> yes
2008-05-05 12:00 < Mike_H> Which one is da?
2008-05-05 12:00 < MidasWS> Danish
2008-05-05 12:00 < Mike_H> Oh, Danish, that's hot
2008-05-05 12:00 * Mike_H pets cimon
2008-05-05 12:01 < Mike_H> I heard yesterday it was 21 C in Finland
2008-05-05 12:01 < Mike_H> that must be hot for this time of year
2008-05-05 12:01 < quanticle> MidasSW: So, you don't see a link to "upload an new version of this file" at the bottom of the page?
2008-05-05 12:02 < MidasWS> nah, nevermind they just told me in #wikipedia-da to wait 4 days
2008-05-05 12:04 * Cream pets Mike2
2008-05-05 12:04 * Cream pets Mike_H
2008-05-05 12:04 < quanticle> Wait, having an account on en Wikipedia doesn't automatically grant you a Commons account?
2008-05-05 12:04 * Mike_H pets Crazytales
2008-05-05 12:04 * Mike_H pets Cream
2008-05-05 12:20 < Mike_H> turn around, bright eyes!
2008-05-05 12:21 < ClaireQuilty_> You know on radio broadcasts when they have people sitting in a remote studio that they interview or talk to etc.? How is this done? Not by telephone, because the quality is too good.
2008-05-05 12:21 * Cream is now playing : Eban Schletter - Party Girl 1:07 128kbit/s
2008-05-05 12:21 < Mike_H> Some of them are done by telephone. And you can tell on those segments, because the quality is reduced.
2008-05-05 12:22 < ClaireQuilty_> But those I am talking about are not.
2008-05-05 12:22 < ClaireQuilty_> It's the same sound quality as if they were sitting in the same studio.
2008-05-05 12:22 < pengo> ClaireQuilty_: ISDN
2008-05-05 12:22 < pengo> or something
2008-05-05 12:23 < ClaireQuilty_> :S
2008-05-05 12:23 * Cream is now playing : Proyecto Uno - El Tiburon (English Version) 5:01 128kbit/s
2008-05-05 12:23 < ClaireQuilty_> Are those scripts allowed?
2008-05-05 12:23 < pengo> ClaireQuilty_: i hope not
2008-05-05 12:23 < GDonato> Cream: no "now playing scripts"
2008-05-05 12:23 < quanticle> ClaireQuilty: Its probably some kind of dedicated high throughput link.
2008-05-05 12:23 < GDonato> > #wikipedia-social
2008-05-05 12:23 < pengo> ClaireQuilty_: 'ISDN is commonly used in radio broadcasting. Since ISDN provides a high quality connection this assists in delivering good quality audio for transmission in radio. Most radio studios are equipped with ISDN lines as their main form of communication with other studios or standard phone lines."
2008-05-05 12:24 < Mike_H> GDonato: we've been doing "now playing scripts" for a long time.
2008-05-05 12:24 < ClaireQuilty_> Hmm...
2008-05-05 12:24 < Mike_H> And that social channel is way outdated.
2008-05-05 12:24 < ClaireQuilty_> I thought ISDN was just two dial-up modems in one...
2008-05-05 12:24 < GDonato> Mike_H: we have?
2008-05-05 12:24 * pengo shrugs
2008-05-05 12:24 < Mike_H> GDonato: Yeah, for probably a year, at least
2008-05-05 12:24 < ClaireQuilty_> "some kind of dedicated high throughput link" <-- Well... that is not very precise. ;)
2008-05-05 12:26 < pengo> ClaireQuilty_: the other trick is to record the conversation on both sides and then put together the high quality records afterwards
2008-05-05 12:26 < GDonato> Mike_H: yeah, i know it's outdated
2008-05-05 12:26 < ClaireQuilty_> pengo: Yes, but live...
2008-05-05 12:26 < Mike_H> GDonato: They can be annoying to some people, yeah, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they shouldn't happen at all
2008-05-05 12:26 < pengo> ClaireQuilty_: yah, isdn then
2008-05-05 12:27 < Mike_H> I do mine maybe ten times a day.
2008-05-05 12:27 < Mike_H> like, par exemple.
2008-05-05 12:27 * Mike_H NP: Huey Lewis and the News - Power of Love (1985)
2008-05-05 12:27 < pengo> Mike_H: and it's pretty annoying
2008-05-05 12:27 < Mike_H> pengo: you can suck one of my disgusting extremities!
2008-05-05 12:28 < pengo> Mike_H: you wish
2008-05-05 12:28 < Mike_H> I was debating whether or not I really would wish, and after careful thought, I realized I really wouldn't.
2008-05-05 12:28 < pengo> you say that now
2008-05-05 12:28 < Mike_H> pengo: okay, fine, if I haven't gotten any in two more months, I'll come back
2008-05-05 12:29 < pengo> :/
2008-05-05 12:29 < pengo> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pengo-au/2468070684/sizes/l/
2008-05-05 12:29 < Mike_H> pengo: be careful what you say! muwahahaha
2008-05-05 12:30 < pengo> shot that today
2008-05-05 12:31 < Mike_H> pengo: I didn't know you knew my ex-boyfriend!
2008-05-05 12:31 < quanticle> Whee! Netsplit!
2008-05-05 12:31 < pengo> Mike_H: i hope you're not insulting my mantis :/
2008-05-05 12:31 < Mike_H> pengo: no, dear, I was insulting my ex-boyfriend
2008-05-05 12:32 < pengo> by comparing him to my mantis :/
2008-05-05 12:33 < Working_Cat> moo!
2008-05-05 12:34 < pengo> moo.
2008-05-05 12:36 < Working_Cat> spork
2008-05-05 12:36 < quanticle> WTF. Miley Cyrus is writing her memoirs...
2008-05-05 12:36 < Working_Cat> >_<
2008-05-05 12:36 * quanticle wonders what she has to write about...
2008-05-05 12:36 < Working_Cat> quanticle: you dont wanna know
2008-05-05 12:37 < Working_Cat> another sign that shes going the britney way
2008-05-05 12:37 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Indeed. Or, to be more apropos, like Lindsay Lohan.
2008-05-05 12:38 < Working_Cat> quanticle: did you leave me feedback yet?
2008-05-05 12:38 < Working_Cat> yeah i was thinking lohan would be a better parallel
2008-05-05 12:38 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Nyet. Will do that now.
2008-05-05 12:40 < quanticle> Working_Cat: How exactly do you leave feedback?
2008-05-05 12:41 < Working_Cat> go to the game, it will say something like "Lucifer_Cat won" ... "Leave feedback for: <everyones names>"
2008-05-05 12:41 < Working_Cat> click on the name
2008-05-05 12:42 < cimon> Mike_H: btw, I noticed you did one Wikipedia weekly thing by phone, and an other one via skype. was there a specific reason for using each, at that specific time?
2008-05-05 12:42 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Done.
2008-05-05 12:42 < Working_Cat> can you copy paste it please :)
2008-05-05 12:42 < Working_Cat> in PM if you want
2008-05-05 12:44 < quanticle> Working_Cat: It just says, "Well played Lucifer_Cat. Well played..."
2008-05-05 12:44 < Working_Cat> sounds ominous
2008-05-05 12:45 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Heh. More like a challenge.
2008-05-05 12:47 < Working_Cat> well you are doing well in the middle east afaik
2008-05-05 12:47 < quanticle> Have y'all seen today's XKCD?
2008-05-05 12:48 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Thanks, but I'm not sure I'll be able to hold all that territory.
2008-05-05 12:48 < Working_Cat> quanticle: you only need to hold it long enough to deny the other person some bonuses
2008-05-05 12:49 < quanticle> Working_Cat: I know you're at work, but its your turn on the MidEast map.
2008-05-05 12:49 < Working_Cat> quanticle: yeah. thats why i said spork before.
2008-05-05 12:49 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Heh. It makes more sense now!
2008-05-05 12:50 < Working_Cat> quanticle: i know, its my turn on russia too, but both of them after work.
2008-05-05 12:50 < Working_Cat> i'll also be cutting down on irc
2008-05-05 12:50 < Working_Cat> Lucifer_Cat will ofcourse be at it as usual
2008-05-05 12:50 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-05-05 12:50 < quanticle> GBTW, Working_Cat.
2008-05-05 12:51 < Working_Cat> what
2008-05-05 12:51 < Working_Cat> oh yeah im on lunch break
2008-05-05 12:52 < Working_Cat> for 20 more minutes :D
2008-05-05 12:52 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-05-05 12:53 < quanticle> http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/files/227/the%20voices.jpg
2008-05-05 12:54 < Working_Cat> they tell you to keel them?
2008-05-05 12:55 * Cream huggles Working_Cat
2008-05-05 12:55 * Working_Cat spreads Cream
2008-05-05 12:55 * Cream melts
2008-05-05 12:55 < Working_Cat> awww
2008-05-05 12:56 * Cream farts loudly
2008-05-05 12:57 < quanticle> This one is also pretty epic: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c173/AlyssaRochelle/Cats/1155412575152ln7.jpg
2008-05-05 12:57 < Working_Cat> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001110.html
2008-05-05 12:57 < Cream> awwwww
2008-05-05 12:57 < Working_Cat> im pretty sure photobucket will be blocked
2008-05-05 12:57 < Cream> oh christ
2008-05-05 12:57 < Cream> a lion
2008-05-05 12:57 < Cream> >:3
2008-05-05 12:58 * Working_Cat Creams Loooooooooong_Cat
2008-05-05 13:00 < quanticle> Hey, the Minneapolis Public Transit system made it onto the front page of TheDailyWTF: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Please-yoyo-the-rrm.aspx
2008-05-05 13:01 < Cream> lolz
2008-05-05 13:01 < Cream> quanticle, tell me
2008-05-05 13:01 < Working_Cat> im not about to have any url with a wtf in it in my history.
2008-05-05 13:01 < Cream> do you use public transportation
2008-05-05 13:02 * Working_Cat used to use public transport
2008-05-05 13:02 < Working_Cat> Can_Cream, do you?
2008-05-05 13:03 < ggreer> I use public transport. it's called roads
2008-05-05 13:03 < Working_Cat> ggreer: he means vehicles.
2008-05-05 13:04 < ggreer> actually I ride a motorcycle that gets 70mpg, so I'm doing my part :P
2008-05-05 13:04 < Working_Cat> ggreer: what model and how much did it cosr
2008-05-05 13:04 < Working_Cat> cost*
2008-05-05 13:04 < ggreer> ninja 250. it was just oven $3k
2008-05-05 13:04 < ggreer> new
2008-05-05 13:04 < Working_Cat> im thinking of buying one next year or in 18 months
2008-05-05 13:04 < ggreer> *over
2008-05-05 13:04 < Cream> Yep
2008-05-05 13:05 < ggreer> the 2008 model is better
2008-05-05 13:05 < Cream> I use pubic transportation
2008-05-05 13:05 < Cream> i take the train or bus
2008-05-05 13:05 < Cream> it all depends
2008-05-05 13:05 < ggreer> Working_Cat: it's a great beginner bike. I bought it in february, although I'll probably upgrade to something bigger in a year
2008-05-05 13:05 < quanticle> Cream: I used to, before I got an internship. The bus system here is great if you're going to downtown at the beginning of the working day (5am to 8am) and returning home at the end of the day (3pm to 6pm). However, for going between suburbs, and commuting at midday, you're not likely to find a route that's less than two hours long.
2008-05-05 13:05 < Working_Cat> i actually didnt buy a car in college. the public transit was free and awesome.
2008-05-05 13:05 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Where?
2008-05-05 13:06 < ggreer> you can find used ninja 250s for 1-2k, depending on mileage and age
2008-05-05 13:06 * quanticle purchased a car so he could go to his internship
2008-05-05 13:06 < ggreer> although any used one has probably been dropped a couple times
2008-05-05 13:06 < Working_Cat> quanticle: Clemson. I think theres a CAt Bus article on WP as well
2008-05-05 13:06 < Cream> the subway is 2.75$ while the bus in my area is 3.75$
2008-05-05 13:06 < Cream> one pass
2008-05-05 13:06 < Working_Cat> and i also used the metro a lot in DC
2008-05-05 13:07 < Working_Cat> me too, i prolly would not have bought a car yet if i were in DC with access to Metro
2008-05-05 13:07 < ggreer> Working_Cat: also the bike isn't exactly slow. for example I caught going 76 in a 30 (mph) zone on saturday
2008-05-05 13:07 < quanticle> Ah. Ok. Yeah. Out here in the Midwest, you're lucky to see a public transit system that's better than "nonexistent".
2008-05-05 13:08 < Working_Cat> ggreer: does dropping a bike really affect it a lot?
2008-05-05 13:08 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Dropping?
2008-05-05 13:08 < ggreer> Working_Cat: if it's at 0mph, no. at low speeds it can scratch stuff
2008-05-05 13:08 < ggreer> almost all the time it's only cosmetic
2008-05-05 13:08 < Working_Cat> i know friends who banged and dropped their bikes more than once without really affecting the performance. back in india
2008-05-05 13:08 < Working_Cat> ah ok
2008-05-05 13:09 < ggreer> sport bike fairings can be cracked by dropping them though
2008-05-05 13:09 < quanticle> ggreer: Eh, I wouldn't say that dropping it at 0mph does "nothing". Depending on the bike, it can be heavy enough to break components by falling over onto its side.
2008-05-05 13:09 < Cream> here in montreal, the subway is centered to downtown
2008-05-05 13:09 < ggreer> and those are expensive
2008-05-05 13:09 < ggreer> quanticle: on a slightly different shaped road I would have cracked the fairing on my ninja when I dropped it at 0mph
2008-05-05 13:09 < ggreer> also you can break off the clutch or brake levers
2008-05-05 13:09 < Working_Cat> ggreer: im not a big fan of speeding as it is. i just dont like taking out a car when im the only one driving - in bearable weather and without carrying any stuff
2008-05-05 13:10 < quanticle> ggreer: Yeah, my friend makes a good side business out of repairing bike fairings.
2008-05-05 13:10 < ggreer> Working_Cat: well if you're looking for a beginner bike that can go on the highway without any trouble, the ninja 250 is not bad at all
2008-05-05 13:10 * Working_Cat broke off a clutch lever on his 2 wheeler once
2008-05-05 13:10 < ggreer> heh
2008-05-05 13:10 * Working_Cat is ashamed to say which one :P
2008-05-05 13:11 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Was it a scooter?
2008-05-05 13:11 * Cream used a big wheel
2008-05-05 13:11 * gwern appreciates the latest XKCD
2008-05-05 13:11 < Working_Cat> ggreer, quanticle : http://www.vespinoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/bajaj-chetakhtm_txt_06-silver-chetak.gif
2008-05-05 13:12 < Working_Cat> not the same model.. but looks close
2008-05-05 13:12 < gwern> unfortunately, I don't think he's quite thought his fork/spoon continuum out right - you'd have to make sporks fractal to get a continuum up to the three tines of a fork
2008-05-05 13:12 < quanticle> Working_Cat: My uncle in India drives something approximating that.
2008-05-05 13:13 < quanticle> gwern: Three tines implies chaos?
2008-05-05 13:13 < Working_Cat> yeah... its the middle aged transport vehicle so to say.
2008-05-05 13:14 < gwern> quanticle: well, the issue is that xkcd wants to postulate a countable infinity of sporks that lie between spoons and forks
2008-05-05 13:14 * gwern points at http://xkcd.com/
2008-05-05 13:15 < gwern> but the thing is, if you indefinitely add more tines to a spoon, at some point there is no more space between tines, no? and then you've created a longer spoon
2008-05-05 13:15 < Working_Cat> but it was stable and gave me 50 kms/liter.
2008-05-05 13:16 < Working_Cat> ok im doing something wrong... it tells me i used to get 120/gallon
2008-05-05 13:16 < ggreer> aww, scooters. I guess I desire too much acceleration from my vehicles
2008-05-05 13:16 < Working_Cat> wow, i was not wrong. my old scooter actually gave me 120/gallon
2008-05-05 13:17 < Working_Cat> though it wasnt all that "old" and also, i died on me a lot of times in the end
2008-05-05 13:17 < Working_Cat> anyways, you cant really take a scooter on the highway
2008-05-05 13:17 < quanticle> gwern: Heh. I was making a pun on one of the seminal papers in chaos theory, "Period 3 Implies Chaos?", which showed that certain biological systems could indeed behave chaotically.
2008-05-05 13:18 < quanticle> Working_Cat: Not surprising. Heck, even large motorcycles will give you 70 to 100 mpg.
2008-05-05 13:18 < gwern> ah. I'm not terribly familiar with chaos theory, so I guess that's why I missed it
2008-05-05 13:19 < Working_Cat> gwern: i think its more about cutting out tines from a slightly longer spoon than to /add/ tines to a regular spoon
2008-05-05 13:19 < Working_Cat> also, i cant believe we are debating /that/.
2008-05-05 13:19 * Working_Cat gets back to work.
2008-05-05 13:20 * gwern is saddened by Working_Cat. so be i
2008-05-05 13:21 < gwern> *it
2008-05-05 13:21 < quanticle> This is #wikipedia. We are writing a freakin' encyclopedia for God's sake! What else would we debate?
2008-05-05 13:21 < quanticle> This isn't #politics or #worldaffairs
2008-05-05 13:22 < gwern> quanticle: we could debate the ethics of turning off computers in a pan-conscious philosophical framework
2008-05-05 13:24 < quanticle> gwern: Heh. That'd be for #ai, or perhaps #posthumanism or #singularity
2008-05-05 14:17 < quanticle> Chirp.
2008-05-05 14:18 < Leslie_S> sigh
2008-05-05 14:18 < Leslie_S> im supposed to be in detroit right now.
2008-05-05 14:18 < Leslie_S> and im on the other side of the fucking state
2008-05-05 14:21 < quanticle> """ Somewhere into our third year of the Pages project—developing a full-blown, commercial object-oriented document processor—I was sitting in my office, rereading The Mythical Man-Month by Frederick P. Brooks. Dave Krich, our director of quality, wandered by, looked in, and quipped, “Isn’t it a little late for that?”
2008-05-05 14:21 < quanticle> It was indeed. We were approaching our originally announced release date, and we knew we weren’t going to make it. But Dave’s comment and Brooks’ book set me to thinking about all that I wished I had known when I blithely started the Pages development effort some years earlier. I started making a list—mentally at first, and then on paper—of the pits we had fallen into along the way. I added those we had skirted and those we had av
2008-05-05 14:21 < quanticle> """
2008-05-05 14:22 < quanticle> Heh. You know you're in trouble when an upper-level executive says its too late for MMM to help.
2008-05-05 14:31 < The359> http://www.uploadthis.co.uk/uploads/Ktulu/volcanosplode_chile.jpg
2008-05-05 14:31 < The359> Lightining striking an erupting volcano
2008-05-05 14:31 < The359> erm, Lightning
2008-05-05 14:32 < Ningyou> hey, would anyone happend to know how to correctly write "Belayev" in cyrillic russian? :D
2008-05-05 14:40 < NoPegs> there's a backwards R instead of the Y
2008-05-05 14:40 < IceKarma> uh, no
2008-05-05 14:41 < NoPegs> maybe I pronounce it wrong?
2008-05-05 14:41 < IceKarma> Белаев
2008-05-05 14:41 < IceKarma> maybe Бэлаев
2008-05-05 14:41 < NoPegs> I'm idiot savant in cyrillic, I can read a word out loud, make sno sense to me, but I can pronounce most of the russian alphabet... :P
2008-05-05 14:42 < IceKarma> yeah, so you know the Cyrillic=>something else mapping
2008-05-05 14:42 < IceKarma> apparently, not the inverse
2008-05-05 14:42 < NoPegs> IceKarma: correct. :)
2008-05-05 14:48 < NoPegs> IceKarma: I worked with a man named Stannislav who came over from Russia at age 14 (now he's like 30 something?) for like 2 years, a little rubbed off on me. Last I checked he does document translation and interpretation for non classified stuff it the CIA.
2008-05-05 14:48 < Ningyou> hmm
2008-05-05 14:51 < Dingaantouwtje> So.. silent..
2008-05-05 14:56 < gwern> LOUD_CAT: LONG TIME NO SEE
2008-05-05 14:57 < gwern> ANYTHING INTERESTING HAPPEN IN THE FA AREA?
2008-05-05 14:57 * NoPegs toggles gwern's caps-lock key..
2008-05-05 14:58 * gwern senses NoPegs is not familiar with LOUD_CAT
2008-05-05 14:58 < The359> the children must be out of school for the day
2008-05-05 14:58 < NoPegs> be bold is being loud
2008-05-05 14:59 < gwern> school's out - for summer \ school's out - for ever!
2008-05-05 14:59 < NoPegs> THIS IS JUST CRAZY> :P
2008-05-05 14:59 < The359> BE EXTRA BOLD
2008-05-05 14:59 < The359> <b> </b>
2008-05-05 14:59 * LOUD_CAT HUGGLES NOPEGS
2008-05-05 14:59 < quanticle> HELLO LOUD_CAT
2008-05-05 15:00 < LOUD_CAT> HELLO QUANTICLE
2008-05-05 15:00 * NoPegs preens the kitty...
2008-05-05 15:00 * quanticle HUGGLES LOUD_CAT
2008-05-05 15:00 < LOUD_CAT> NOPEGS - I
2008-05-05 15:00 < LOUD_CAT> I'M SORRY, BUT I CAN'T HEAR YOU
2008-05-05 15:00 < LOUD_CAT> MY HEARING ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE
2008-05-05 15:00 < The359> Z0MG IT'S LOUD CAT
2008-05-05 15:00 < NoPegs> semaphore?
2008-05-05 15:01 < gwern> LOUD_CAT: HAVE YOU CONSIDERED HEARING AIDS? THEY CAN BE QUITE SMALL THESE DAYS
2008-05-05 15:02 < Cyrius> hearing aids? zomg, it's transmitted by sound now!?
2008-05-05 15:02 * The359 beams AIDS into Cyrius
2008-05-05 15:02 < Cyrius> nooo
2008-05-05 15:02 < LOUD_CAT> OH NOES! FIRST BUTTSECKS AIDS, NOW HEARING AIDS?
2008-05-05 15:03 < gwern> LOUD_CAT: ALAS I FEAR HEARING AIDS ARE NOT AS AWESOME AS THEY COULD: VIZ> I KNOW OF NO WAY TO HOOK A CELLPHONE OR IPOD STRAIGHT INTO ANY HEARING AIDS< WHICH YOU WILL READILY CONCEDE DETRACTS FROM THEIR AWESOMENESS
2008-05-05 15:03 * NoPegs checks the kitty's ears for mites...
2008-05-05 15:04 < LOUD_CAT> GWERN - BUT I THOUGHT AIDS WAS CREATED BY THE MAN TO DESTROY THE BLACK COMMUNITY. REVERED JERIAMIAH WRIGHT SAID SO
2008-05-05 15:04 < NoPegs> Might have a big mite-poop nugget blocking the ear-canal. :)
2008-05-05 15:04 < Ceiling_Cat> :P
2008-05-05 15:04 < gwern> LOUD_CAT: NO< HE MEANT "AIDS" I"M TALKING "BOUT HEARING *AIDS*< DIG?
2008-05-05 15:04 * NoPegs places Ceiling_Cat in an Escher painting and watches the freakout happen...
2008-05-05 15:04 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat hello
2008-05-05 15:05 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat you any good with robotics?
2008-05-05 15:05 < NoPegs> mechano-neko?
2008-05-05 15:05 < NoPegs> didn't the guy from mythbusters make robo-zombie-cat?
2008-05-05 15:05 < Ceiling_Cat> Shiroi_Neko - not really
2008-05-05 15:06 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat how about electronics?
2008-05-05 15:06 * gwern orders Shiroi_Neko to fetch the gorillas
2008-05-05 15:06 < Shiroi_Neko> I am looking for some leads on how to make a robbuts remote controled car basicaly
2008-05-05 15:06 * Shiroi_Neko fetches bumm13
2008-05-05 15:06 < Shiroi_Neko> gwern here you go
2008-05-05 15:07 < NoPegs> Shiroi_Neko: you mean like AI control? autonomous?
2008-05-05 15:07 < Shiroi_Neko> NoPegs it will get its commands via a serial cable connection
2008-05-05 15:07 * gwern order the gorillas to make me a nice cheese fajita
2008-05-05 15:07 < Ceiling_Cat> Shiroi_Neko - my knowledge of analog circuits is very weak. I had an extremely poor circuits teacher
2008-05-05 15:07 < gwern> http://www.chrisyates.net/reprographics/index.php?page=666 <-- hee hee. Scott McCloud, overrated? I met him once, nice guy
2008-05-05 15:07 < NoPegs> ohhh... start with the lego kits. :) and serial is so 1998, its all USB now. :)
2008-05-05 15:07 < gwern> although his last name isn't really 'McCloud'
2008-05-05 15:07 < Ceiling_Cat> I'm good with digital circuits
2008-05-05 15:07 < Shiroi_Neko> Ceiling_Cat I see
2008-05-05 15:08 < Shiroi_Neko> I want to make a 4 wheeled robot with two engines
2008-05-05 15:08 < Shiroi_Neko> which should idealy run using USB power
2008-05-05 15:09 < gwern> it's a little known fact, but Scott McCloud's last name is really 'McLeod'!
2008-05-05 15:09 < NoPegs> lego mindstorms is a good place to start.. I'm not kidding... The technical schools around here have them in first year robotics courses. :)
2008-05-05 15:14 < Messedrocker> McLeod?
2008-05-05 15:14 < Messedrocker> wow!
2008-05-05 15:17 < Ceiling_Cat> HELLO ANTHERE!!
2008-05-05 15:19 < Mike_H> Paula Ackerman (nee Paula Herskovitz, December 7, 1893 ? January 12, 1989) was the first woman to perform rabbinical functions in the United States (leading congregations from 1950 to 1954 and from 1962 to 1967). She also led the National Committee on Religious Schools for the National Federation of Temple Sisterhoods.
2008-05-05 15:20 < Mike_H> the MORE you KNOW
2008-05-05 15:20 < The359> the LESS I CARE
2008-05-05 15:20 < cimon> Mark Pellegrini: Florence didn't just join us, a second client of hers did.
2008-05-05 15:21 < Mike_H> The359: the things you care about bore the shit out of me too
2008-05-05 15:21 < Mike_H> so, we're even
2008-05-05 15:21 < cimon> We have Anthere2 and Anthere3 here.
2008-05-05 15:21 < Messedrocker> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen: Why did you refer to him as that?
2008-05-05 15:21 < Mike_H> James Hare: Because he felt the need to be expressive today.
2008-05-05 15:21 < cimon> Messedrocker: Pidgin does that.
2008-05-05 15:22 < cimon> Messedrocker: I have aliased Rauls nicks as his real name, so that is what autocomplete and comment attributiong goes by.
2008-05-05 15:22 < Anthere3> I am here, but not here
2008-05-05 15:22 * Mike_H hugs Anthere3
2008-05-05 15:22 < Messedrocker> ok
2008-05-05 15:22 < Mike_H> Anthere3: bises!
2008-05-05 15:23 < cimon> Messedrocker: so for me it is safer to refer to Raul now by his real name, because I don't know which of his actual many nicks he is using presently...
2008-05-05 15:24 < Messedrocker> k
2008-05-05 15:25 < cimon> easier at least than guessing or checking the list of nicks in the room using info.
2008-05-05 15:25 < cimon> appears right now he is Ceiling_Cat, but just a moment ago, I think he was something else.
2008-05-05 15:28 < cimon> I wonder what happened to Profoss. He used to be a regular on this channel.
2008-05-05 15:28 < Shiroi_Neko> Protoss
2008-05-05 15:29 < cimon> wow. Switzerland is plying impressively...
2008-05-05 15:29 < Mike_H> cimon: Oh, Eurovision time again?
2008-05-05 15:29 < cimon> an upset win over Byelorussia.
2008-05-05 15:30 < Mike_H> "Byelorussia"?
2008-05-05 15:30 < Mike_H> That's an awfully 1917 name to call it
2008-05-05 15:30 < cimon> Mike_H: Ice Hockey World Champs.
2008-05-05 15:30 < cimon> What would you call it?
2008-05-05 15:30 < Mike_H> "Belarus"
2008-05-05 15:30 < cimon> hmm
2008-05-05 15:31 < cimon> English appropriation of spellings.
2008-05-05 15:31 < Mike_H> Is it "Byelorussia" in Finnish?
2008-05-05 15:31 < cimon> no
2008-05-05 15:31 < cimon> Valkovenäjä (White Russia)
2008-05-05 15:31 < cimon> translating the "bielo"
2008-05-05 15:32 * cimon wonders where Sternorussia is ;)
2008-05-05 15:33 < amidaniel> Any CS types about? Anyone know of an iterative sorting algorithm with constant memory complexity and time complexity of <= n log(n) ?
2008-05-05 15:35 < Ceiling_Cat> hrm
2008-05-05 15:35 < Ceiling_Cat> average, worst case, or best case?
2008-05-05 15:36 < Ceiling_Cat> (time complexity?)
2008-05-05 15:36 < amidaniel> For time complexity, average will do
2008-05-05 15:36 < amidaniel> Speed is not most important, but n^2 is too much
2008-05-05 15:36 < Ceiling_Cat> According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorting_algorithms
2008-05-05 15:36 * amidaniel is sorting a biiiiig biiiiiig list of data
2008-05-05 15:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Comb sort
2008-05-05 15:36 < Ceiling_Cat> In-place merge sort
2008-05-05 15:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Heapsort
2008-05-05 15:36 < amidaniel> Ooh .. didn't think of comb sort
2008-05-05 15:37 < amidaniel> Awesome, that'll workl