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2008-05-02 11:24 < Wiredtape> lol
2008-05-02 11:24 < ral315> That sounds fair to me, honestly.
2008-05-02 11:24 * ThePolecat makes that Weasel's Law
2008-05-02 11:25 < ral315> One can disagree about what the age of consent should be.
2008-05-02 11:25 < Phoenixwi> and what should happen when both are minors...
2008-05-02 11:25 < ral315> But she was not able to consent to sex, technically.
2008-05-02 11:25 * ThePolecat lives in what is possibly the most liberal country in the world in that respect
2008-05-02 11:25 < Sfan00> The age of consent shoudl be the same as marrige age and voting age
2008-05-02 11:25 < Wiredtape> ral315 : age of consent applies to sexual intercourse and not *any* type of sex.. atleast from what i know..
2008-05-02 11:25 * ThePolecat disagrees
2008-05-02 11:25 < Phoenixwi> ThePolecat, you German?
2008-05-02 11:25 < ThePolecat> I am.
2008-05-02 11:25 < ral315> See, in Michigan, the age of consent is actually under marriage and voting age
2008-05-02 11:26 < Phoenixwi> Sfan00, hundreds of minors have sex without ever being found out
2008-05-02 11:26 < ThePolecat> And we haven't died yet.
2008-05-02 11:26 < ral315> In most areas of the U.S., age of consent applies to any sexual act between two or more people.
2008-05-02 11:26 < ThePolecat> And we don't obsess about it.
2008-05-02 11:26 < ral315> Right or wrong, that's the way it's worded.
2008-05-02 11:26 < Phoenixwi> Germany actually has a population decrease
2008-05-02 11:26 < ThePolecat> haha
2008-05-02 11:27 < ThePolecat> and negligible teen pregnancy in the scheme of things
2008-05-02 11:27 < Phoenixwi> yes
2008-05-02 11:27 < Wiredtape> ral315 : in michigan the age of majority is 18, and that makes me wonder whether emancipation enables you to consent to a sex act..
2008-05-02 11:27 < ThePolecat> Consent is a crutch, because people are different anyway.
2008-05-02 11:27 < ral315> In Michigan the age of consent is 16, so I believe that's a moot point.
2008-05-02 11:27 < Phoenixwi> funny how that is, France has a very low age at which one can buy alcohol, and have one of the lowest number of binge drinkers in Europe
2008-05-02 11:27 < ral315> In Michigan, this is the law (rather specific sexual terms here, if anyone's offended)
2008-05-02 11:27 < ral315> ""Sexual penetration" means sexual intercourse, cunnilingus, fellatio, anal intercourse, or any other intrusion, however slight, of any part of a person's body or of any object into the genital or anal openings of another person's body, but emission of semen is not required."
2008-05-02 11:28 < Wiredtape> ral315 - I meant if emancipation of a minor (not at the legal age)...
2008-05-02 11:28 < ThePolecat> Okay, that topic is getting old, I'll bbl.
2008-05-02 11:28 < Wiredtape> hmm... ral315 mind sharing the link please?
2008-05-02 11:28 < minerale> why is essjay's user page and talk page protected?
2008-05-02 11:28 < Phoenixwi> cos he left
2008-05-02 11:28 < ral315> http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(y2brbwrefiwyo5uqotbulcmt))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-750-520a
2008-05-02 11:29 < Phoenixwi> and didn't want them edited
2008-05-02 11:29 < Phoenixwi> minerale
2008-05-02 11:29 < Wiredtape> ral315, thanks..
2008-05-02 11:29 < ral315> That section isn't really about age of consent, but the definition of sexual intercourse I believe is the same throughout the law.
2008-05-02 11:29 < ral315> No problem.
2008-05-02 11:30 < Sfan00> On the subject of sex-laws, there's a noticable absence in the 'extreme porn' rules...
2008-05-02 11:30 < Wiredtape> though this is probably the stupidist joke i've ever thought of.. I think it's funny that the header for that link is: "THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE"
2008-05-02 11:30 < Sfan00> the United Kingsom is bringing in
2008-05-02 11:30 < ThePolecat> haha... sounds like penile... haha.
2008-05-02 11:31 < ThePolecat> Sfan00: Freedom of speech.
2008-05-02 11:31 < ThePolecat> European law hasn't got that notion to that extent.
2008-05-02 11:31 < ral315> I just find it humorous that my state legislature took the time and money to hammer out a full definition of "sexual intercourse"
2008-05-02 11:31 < Wiredtape> Is speech also considered visual presentation?
2008-05-02 11:31 < ThePolecat> Yep.
2008-05-02 11:31 < ral315> Depends.
2008-05-02 11:31 < ral315> Usually.
2008-05-02 11:32 < ral315> There are obvious exceptions, but flag burning, for example, has been interpreted as "free speech".
2008-05-02 11:32 < minerale> Ral, I think there's massive anti-kosovo pov in: [[Kosovo]] -- "Kosovo is a disputed territory", they've been recognized as a state by the US and many other countries.. WHy don't we change Taiwan's [[Republic of China]] to say it's a disputed territory as well
2008-05-02 11:32 < ThePolecat> I think it does say that few countries recognise Taiwan
2008-05-02 11:32 < ral315> I don't know -- I don't try to venture into those nationalistic disputes.
2008-05-02 11:32 < Aqwis> before the UN recognises it it is disputed territory
2008-05-02 11:32 < Sfan00> ThePolecat: the noticable absence is in the nature of material it de-facto bans
2008-05-02 11:32 < minerale> Due to Russa and China's influence Kosovo won't gain UN, just like due to China Taiwan has not gaine UN membership..
2008-05-02 11:32 < Wiredtape> ral315: iirc, it is also constitutional to question the government.. and therefore maybe flag burning is considered under that?
2008-05-02 11:32 < ThePolecat> But our Serb nationalist friends seem to be on top right now.
2008-05-02 11:33 < minerale> aqwis: Taiwan is not recognized by the UN either
2008-05-02 11:33 < Aqwis> minerale, yes
2008-05-02 11:33 < ThePolecat> Maybe there's some more general rule for that.
2008-05-02 11:33 < Aqwis> taiwan is disputed territory
2008-05-02 11:33 < ral315> I don't believe political speech is granted any more exceptions than general speech.
2008-05-02 11:33 < ThePolecat> It is here.
2008-05-02 11:33 < minerale> aqwis: I welcome you to add that to Taiwan's article
2008-05-02 11:33 < Aqwis> minerale, i don't edit that kind of articles.
2008-05-02 11:33 < ThePolecat> but the other kind goes much further in the US, so idk.
2008-05-02 11:34 < minerale> aqwis: sure, so should I change it from: [Taiwan is a state in East Asia] to [Taiwan is a disputed territory in East Asia] ?
2008-05-02 11:34 * Mike_H pets minerale
2008-05-02 11:34 < Aqwis> minerale, state and disputed territory probably
2008-05-02 11:35 < minerale> Come on, they have their own established government, just like Kosovo, you don't call them disputed territory
2008-05-02 11:35 < Aqwis> so is kosovo
2008-05-02 11:35 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: I've met minerale irl, btw. I grabbed his butt when I was drunk.
2008-05-02 11:35 < ThePolecat> State is defined as follows.
2008-05-02 11:35 < ral315> United States v. O'Brien ruled that burning draft cards could be prohibited
2008-05-02 11:35 < ThePolecat> Oh, congratulations
2008-05-02 11:35 < ThePolecat> State is defined as follows:
2008-05-02 11:35 < Mike_H> I know, it was a nice one. Thank you.
2008-05-02 11:35 < ThePolecat> A people, a territory, a force.
2008-05-02 11:35 < minerale> mike_h: hah
2008-05-02 11:35 < Sfan00> ral315: Well that destrcution of Govt documents...
2008-05-02 11:35 < ThePolecat> Therefore, both Kosovo and Taiwan are states.
2008-05-02 11:35 < Aqwis> yes, but they're still disputed
2008-05-02 11:35 < ral315> Because there was a significant government interest in regulating the draft.
2008-05-02 11:35 < Aqwis> so they're both states and disputed territories at the same time
2008-05-02 11:36 < ral315> So I don't think political speech gets much more, if any more, consideration.
2008-05-02 11:36 * minerale does not have the clout to be able to edit Kosovo, a long fight is ahead
2008-05-02 11:36 < Mike_H> minerale: Aren't you Albanian?
2008-05-02 11:36 < Lycurgus> PC: is euronews effectively run by the EU Commission now?
2008-05-02 11:36 < ThePolecat> They're states whose legitimacy is disputed.
2008-05-02 11:36 < zocky> they're states, which isn't disputed
2008-05-02 11:36 < ThePolecat> Amen.
2008-05-02 11:36 < zocky> whether they're independent countries is disputed
2008-05-02 11:36 < Aqwis> yes.
2008-05-02 11:36 < zocky> actually, it's not really disputed for taiwan
2008-05-02 11:36 < Phoenixwi> euronews is just played by channels late at night and early in the morning to make up time when they don't want to put on other stuff
2008-05-02 11:36 < zocky> since nobody claims taiwan is independent
2008-05-02 11:37 < Sfan00> zocky: Doesn't the Tiwainese Govt?
2008-05-02 11:37 < zocky> Sfan00, no
2008-05-02 11:37 < minerale> mike_h: I've been trying to contact the CIA, the only way to do so is via a web form: https://www.cia.gov/cgi-bin/comment_form.cgi -- but for weeks now the form does not function, it's broken
2008-05-02 11:37 < Aqwis> taiwan disputes that the PR is independent :P
2008-05-02 11:37 < Sfan00> What does it claim then?
2008-05-02 11:37 < zocky> both PRC and ROC governments claim to be governments of all china
2008-05-02 11:37 < Mike_H> minerale: The CIA? About what?
2008-05-02 11:37 < zocky> PRC has a slightly better hand
2008-05-02 11:37 < Sfan00> zocky: Including Tibet?
2008-05-02 11:37 < Sfan00> ;)
2008-05-02 11:37 < zocky> yes
2008-05-02 11:38 < minerale> mike_h: trying to send this email: http://pastebin.ca/1005074
2008-05-02 11:38 < minerale> according to the State Dept, albania is mostly secular, but according to the factbook it's 70% muslim, which is laughable
2008-05-02 11:39 < ThePolecat> the religion of Albania is Albanianism.
2008-05-02 11:39 < ThePolecat> (Enver Hoxha)
2008-05-02 11:39 < zocky> minerale, it's not that simple
2008-05-02 11:39 < zocky> those are not the figures about the same thing
2008-05-02 11:39 < ThePolecat> Yup.
2008-05-02 11:39 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: Bunkerism
2008-05-02 11:39 < Mike_H> :D
2008-05-02 11:39 < Aqwis> members of the church vs actual christians?
2008-05-02 11:39 < Aqwis> we have the same situation in norway
2008-05-02 11:40 < minerale> zocky: well the factbook is giving me trouble, people use it to pump up their numbers of "islamic contrues" and "islamic territories"
2008-05-02 11:40 < Mike_H> See, don't people go on and on about Norway being so liberal
2008-05-02 11:40 < Aqwis> no, we have a state church
2008-05-02 11:40 < minerale> I can't convince them that Albania is secular, and has been so since Enver Hoxha outlawed organized religion in the 50s
2008-05-02 11:40 < Mike_H> but isn't that the same country that got into a tizzy about the Crown Prince marrying a single mom?
2008-05-02 11:40 < Aqwis> and like 70% are members of it
2008-05-02 11:40 < ThePolecat> My parents are both baptised, but my mum left the Church in the 1970s and my dad doesn't enter churches except to take photos
2008-05-02 11:40 < Aqwis> Mike_H, not anymore
2008-05-02 11:40 < Mike_H> Aqwis: That was only like
2008-05-02 11:40 < Mike_H> 7 or 8 years ago
2008-05-02 11:40 < Aqwis> but only 25% identify as christians afaik
2008-05-02 11:40 < Aqwis> yes
2008-05-02 11:41 < zocky> minerale, tell them that you'll start calling UK a christian country
2008-05-02 11:41 < minerale> mike_h: no one cared about that, just the western media, we don't see him as crown prince, he was placed here by foreigners
2008-05-02 11:41 < Mike_H> zocky: Anglican
2008-05-02 11:41 < Mike_H> be specific
2008-05-02 11:41 < zocky> minerale, what did the census say?
2008-05-02 11:41 < ThePolecat> the Baltic states are probably the most religionless in Europe
2008-05-02 11:41 < Mike_H> minerale: Oh, no, honey
2008-05-02 11:41 < Mike_H> I was talking about the Crown Prince of Norway
2008-05-02 11:41 < Mike_H> to Aqwis
2008-05-02 11:41 < ThePolecat> Albania notwithstanding
2008-05-02 11:41 < Mike_H> marrying that Mette-Marit woman
2008-05-02 11:41 < Mike_H> she had a long name
2008-05-02 11:41 < Mike_H> I can't remember the rest of it
2008-05-02 11:41 < minerale> zocky: albanian censuses agree with Dept of State, people claim to have Muslim heritage, but no one pracices
2008-05-02 11:41 < Aqwis> *shrug*
2008-05-02 11:41 < ThePolecat> "on a warm summer's evening/on a train bound for Norway/"
2008-05-02 11:42 < ThePolecat> Uh...
2008-05-02 11:42 < ThePolecat> Nowhere, nowhere.
2008-05-02 11:42 < zocky> 58% of slovenians say they're catholics in the census, but weekly church attendance is somewhere in single-digit-percentages
2008-05-02 11:42 < minerale> mike_h: I thought you were talking about [[Leka, Crown Prince of Albania]]
2008-05-02 11:42 < Mike_H> minerale: oh, no, I was talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mette-Marit%2C_Crown_Princess_of_Norway
2008-05-02 11:42 < zocky> ThePolecat, yeah, baltic states, czechia and slovenia
2008-05-02 11:42 * ThePolecat found the confession industry in Rome impressive
2008-05-02 11:43 < ThePolecat> they have gigantic rows of confession booths
2008-05-02 11:43 < ThePolecat> with the languages on the outside
2008-05-02 11:43 < Mike_H> btw, Mette-Marit looks like The Daughter of Twiggy
2008-05-02 11:43 < Working_Cat> ThePolecat: with racks and iron maidens?
2008-05-02 11:43 < Mike_H> it's kind of scary
2008-05-02 11:43 < Aqwis> Mike_H, probably why the germans love(d) her
2008-05-02 11:43 < ThePolecat> No racks... or Iron maidens, the priests are all men.
2008-05-02 11:44 < ThePolecat> I did not love her.
2008-05-02 11:44 < ThePolecat> I don't even know her
2008-05-02 11:44 < Aqwis> hurr
2008-05-02 11:44 < Mike_H> Aqwis: rofl
2008-05-02 11:44 < Mike_H> She looks like either
2008-05-02 11:44 < Working_Cat> ThePolecat: with black masks and whips and cat 'o nine tails?
2008-05-02 11:44 < Mike_H> The Daughter of Twiggy
2008-05-02 11:44 < Mike_H> or The Daughter of Agnetha
2008-05-02 11:44 < Mike_H> that hair is just way too blonde to be real
2008-05-02 11:44 < ThePolecat> no, I dunno if you get groped in there though.
2008-05-02 11:45 < Lycurgus> what use is it then
2008-05-02 11:45 < zocky> Mike_H, in 20 years, she'll look like the mother from family ties
2008-05-02 11:45 * ThePolecat is not a Catholic
2008-05-02 11:45 < Working_Cat> ThePolecat: that has to be the most boring confession booth ever.
2008-05-02 11:45 < Mike_H> zocky: Elyse!
2008-05-02 11:45 < Mike_H> I didn't even see that
2008-05-02 11:45 < Mike_H> she so would.
2008-05-02 11:45 < ThePolecat> Well, it's St Peter's Basilica after all.
2008-05-02 11:45 < Working_Cat> i mean what kind of confession booth lets people confess what they /actually/ did... i mean thats like waayyyy TMI
2008-05-02 11:46 < Working_Cat> also without the use of 'techniques' its all voluntary
2008-05-02 11:46 < zocky> Working_Cat, I think you're confusing confession booths with turkish prisons
2008-05-02 11:46 * ThePolecat was tempted to make up shit, to be sure.
2008-05-02 11:46 < ThePolecat> zocky: lmao.
2008-05-02 11:47 < Working_Cat> the only cool kind of confession booths are where they confess to what /you/ convince them to confess
2008-05-02 11:47 < Wiredtape> heh
2008-05-02 11:47 < ThePolecat> "said if you wanna play the Gameboy/you gotta know how to play it well
2008-05-02 11:48 < Wiredtape> i oppose that :) If I want to play Gameboy, I just play..
2008-05-02 11:48 < zocky> ThePolecat, you know the joke about the new priest who didn't know what he should do when a woman confessed to him that she gave head?
2008-05-02 11:48 < ThePolecat> no
2008-05-02 11:48 < zocky> he asks the altar boy, "what did the old priest give for fellatio"
2008-05-02 11:48 < zocky> "a coke and a mars bar"
2008-05-02 11:48 < Working_Cat> zocky: no i am very much talking about the holy catholic ritual of confessions
2008-05-02 11:49 < ThePolecat> aha
2008-05-02 11:49 < Working_Cat> >_<
2008-05-02 11:49 * ThePolecat reads about Brandenburg's mighty colonies
2008-05-02 11:50 < ThePolecat> Gross Friedrichsburg (today Accra)
2008-05-02 11:51 < Lycurgus> ThePolecat: do you watch EuroNews?
2008-05-02 11:51 < ThePolecat> not on a regular basis
2008-05-02 11:51 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: no one does
2008-05-02 11:52 < ThePolecat> only if I'm desperate about not being able to sleep.
2008-05-02 11:52 < Working_Cat> i havent even watched Euro Trip, forget Euro News
2008-05-02 11:52 < ThePolecat> Stick to Euro News in that case.
2008-05-02 11:53 < Lycurgus> what region are you in Working_Cat?
2008-05-02 11:54 < Working_Cat> now is there some way i can create an alias and store/save it on the irc server - as in, it would be associated with my nick/cloak
2008-05-02 11:54 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: southern
2008-05-02 11:54 < Lycurgus> southern europe?
2008-05-02 11:55 < Working_Cat> basically, i want to to be accessible from anywhere as long as im recognized
2008-05-02 11:55 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: southern US
2008-05-02 11:55 < Working_Cat> XD
2008-05-02 11:55 < Demi> Working_Cat - you mean a linked nick?
2008-05-02 11:55 < Working_Cat> Demi: I basically log in from work and home
2008-05-02 11:56 < Lycurgus> <- gonna be watching Euronews All The Time.
2008-05-02 11:56 < Working_Cat> so is there a way where i can create an alias once and use it from both places
2008-05-02 11:56 < Demi> maybe i don't understand what you mean
2008-05-02 11:56 < Working_Cat> ok lemme be specific
2008-05-02 11:57 < Working_Cat> now i have a command alias "/opme" which will give me ops on this chan without typing out everything
2008-05-02 11:57 < Working_Cat> but its client specific
2008-05-02 11:57 < zocky> that will work from any nick, since you don't have to include the nick
2008-05-02 11:57 < Working_Cat> is there a way to separate it from the client?
2008-05-02 11:57 < zocky> /cs op #wikipedia will work regardless of your nick, if your nicks are linked
2008-05-02 11:58 < zocky> Working_Cat, ah, you mean irc command aliases on both clients
2008-05-02 11:58 < Working_Cat> zocky: i know... but i dont wanna type all that out... so i just type /opme
2008-05-02 11:58 < Working_Cat> ahh yes, now you get me
2008-05-02 11:58 < zocky> probably not
2008-05-02 11:58 < zocky> i mean certainly not
2008-05-02 11:58 < zocky> you need to set it up separately
2008-05-02 11:58 < Working_Cat> ok. suspected so.
2008-05-02 11:58 < zocky> or copy the setting files manually
2008-05-02 11:59 < Working_Cat> they should have a thing for small commands dont you think.
2008-05-02 11:59 < zocky> Working_Cat, you could have a nonspeaking bot for that, but it would need to follow you around
2008-05-02 11:59 < Working_Cat> yeah.
2008-05-02 11:59 < Working_Cat> or just be hosted from somewhere
2008-05-02 11:59 < zocky> how mayn do you need anyway?
2008-05-02 12:00 < Working_Cat> how many what
2008-05-02 12:00 < zocky> the only really useful one I have is /reg for registering, and even that only because I'm too lazy to bother with making it work automatically
2008-05-02 12:00 < Wiredtape> Working_Cat : -> that depends on the client..
2008-05-02 12:00 < zocky> ʅnɟəsn ʎʅʅɐəɹ ʇou sɪ sɪɥʇ
2008-05-02 12:01 < zocky> неитхер ис тхис
2008-05-02 12:01 < Working_Cat> Wiredtape: thats the point.. i want it to be separate from the client.
2008-05-02 12:01 < Working_Cat> i just wanted to know... for knowledge sake
2008-05-02 12:02 * Working_Cat often has problems with people thinking he really wants to do something since he is asking about it
2008-05-02 12:02 < Wiredtape> Working_Cat : then no... irc scripts and their implementations vary from client to client.. you could "supposedly" use the raw (i think it was RC3975) code and make yourself a non-client script..
2008-05-02 12:02 < Working_Cat> Wiredtape: i just wanted to know if the command could be stored on the server. the answer to which is no.
2008-05-02 12:03 < Wiredtape> right..
2008-05-02 12:05 < ThePolecat> heh, Iraq Hussein Osama is slightly behind in the polls.
2008-05-02 12:06 < zocky> ThePolecat, media reactions look like the start of the grand smear campaign
2008-05-02 12:07 < ThePolecat> Hm... like against Edwards in '04
2008-05-02 12:07 < ThePolecat> the only guy they were seriously afraid of.
2008-05-02 12:08 < Working_Cat> someone need to bomb the republican election centre. and faux news.
2008-05-02 12:08 * Shiroi_Neko smears zocky a bit with a large trout
2008-05-02 12:08 < zocky> does hillary have any realistic chance against mccain after all this?
2008-05-02 12:08 * Shiroi_Neko thinks zocky is quite fishy
2008-05-02 12:08 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky sure
2008-05-02 12:08 < Shiroi_Neko> she could divorce clinton and marry him
2008-05-02 12:09 < Shiroi_Neko> and have a love affair
2008-05-02 12:09 < zocky> i know if I was american i'd get off my ass and vote just to get rid of republicans
2008-05-02 12:09 < Shiroi_Neko> causing mccain to resign
2008-05-02 12:09 * Working_Cat seconds zocky
2008-05-02 12:09 < zocky> but voting for hillary would require some mighry nosepegs
2008-05-02 12:09 < Shiroi_Neko> you can be an american before the election zocky
2008-05-02 12:10 < zocky> Shiroi_Neko, if only I had any desire to
2008-05-02 12:10 * ThePolecat has never met anyone who publicly admitted to support Hillary
2008-05-02 12:10 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky you only need to vote and then you can resign it :P
2008-05-02 12:10 < Working_Cat> lol
2008-05-02 12:10 * Working_Cat has
2008-05-02 12:10 < Shiroi_Neko> ThePolecat I met such a person once
2008-05-02 12:10 * Working_Cat knows 4 :S
2008-05-02 12:10 < Working_Cat> thankfully, none of them can vote :D
2008-05-02 12:11 < Shiroi_Neko> Working_Cat they are an endangered species
2008-05-02 12:11 < zocky> my problem with hillary is that I don't believe a word she says
2008-05-02 12:11 < Shiroi_Neko> Working_Cat people want to vote for hillary because she was cheated on
2008-05-02 12:11 < zocky> she looks totally fake all the time
2008-05-02 12:11 < Shiroi_Neko> people dont realise how dangerous it is for bill to return to the whitehouse
2008-05-02 12:11 * Working_Cat wishes republicans were an endangered species in no need of being saved
2008-05-02 12:11 < Shiroi_Neko> and this time he would be entirely free
2008-05-02 12:11 < zocky> Shiroi_Neko, to screw more interns?
2008-05-02 12:11 < ThePolecat> Hillary is the Bob Dylan of politics.
2008-05-02 12:11 < Working_Cat> Shiroi_Neko: i'd rather like to have him back in whiute house
2008-05-02 12:12 < ThePolecat> Too many things are interpreted into her.
2008-05-02 12:12 < Working_Cat> white even
2008-05-02 12:12 < Shiroi_Neko> Working_Cat and have more monicas?
2008-05-02 12:12 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky interns only go to the white house to get screwed :)
2008-05-02 12:12 < Working_Cat> Shiroi_Neko: sure. good governance AND entertainment
2008-05-02 12:12 < Shiroi_Neko> Working_Cat naw
2008-05-02 12:12 < Shiroi_Neko> its /18 entertainment you cant watch
2008-05-02 12:12 < Shiroi_Neko> +
2008-05-02 12:13 * Working_Cat is adult enough
2008-05-02 12:13 < zocky> ThePolecat, dunno, she certainly seems to have no moral qualms about making stuff up to suit her story of the moment
2008-05-02 12:13 < Shiroi_Neko> Working_Cat oh it is horrifying
2008-05-02 12:13 < Working_Cat> though yes, the original scandal led to quite a few uncomfortable moments with my parents
2008-05-02 12:13 < ThePolecat> Or blowing things up anyway.
2008-05-02 12:13 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky hillary has a lot of money from lobbies
2008-05-02 12:13 < zocky> they all do
2008-05-02 12:14 < Working_Cat> zocky: not unlike GOPpers
2008-05-02 12:14 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky not as much as hillaary
2008-05-02 12:15 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky I dont think America is ready for a sex offender male as the first lady
2008-05-02 12:16 < Shiroi_Neko> do you have any idea how unconfortable the next G8 summit would be?
2008-05-02 12:16 < zocky> anyway, I don't really know what obama would do with foreign policy, and I'm pretty sure that hillary would just do the same as bush, only with a bit more charm
2008-05-02 12:16 < Shiroi_Neko> I'd imagine leaders would make their wifes wear charsity belts
2008-05-02 12:16 < Shiroi_Neko> well
2008-05-02 12:16 < Shiroi_Neko> merkel is an odd ball
2008-05-02 12:16 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky please dont use "charm" and "hillary" in the same sentecne ever again
2008-05-02 12:17 < Shiroi_Neko> she is OLD
2008-05-02 12:17 < zocky> do any of the G8 chiefs have hot wives?
2008-05-02 12:17 < ThePolecat> Hillary is very popular in Germany.
2008-05-02 12:17 < ThePolecat> (for some reason)
2008-05-02 12:17 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky I dont think bill cares
2008-05-02 12:17 < zocky> then again, bill doesn't necessarily go for hot
2008-05-02 12:17 < Shiroi_Neko> monica was haardly hot
2008-05-02 12:17 < ThePolecat> Merkel is popular too, while doing nothing.
2008-05-02 12:17 < zocky> maybe the lighting was very bad in the oval office?
2008-05-02 12:17 < ThePolecat> Maybe that's what a politician must do to stay popular.
2008-05-02 12:17 < Working_Cat> ThePolecat: thats just a manifestation of their sub-conscious love for hitler
2008-05-02 12:17 < ThePolecat> How?
2008-05-02 12:17 < Shiroi_Neko> ThePolecat I mean germanies "first lady" is a guy
2008-05-02 12:18 < ThePolecat> he isn't hot either, Joachim
2008-05-02 12:18 < Shiroi_Neko> right
2008-05-02 12:18 < Shiroi_Neko> but he is safe from bill
2008-05-02 12:18 < Working_Cat> lol
2008-05-02 12:18 < ThePolecat> Who knows.
2008-05-02 12:18 < zocky> Shiroi_Neko, you never know with them liberals
2008-05-02 12:18 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky hmm
2008-05-02 12:18 < ThePolecat> lib'ruls.
2008-05-02 12:18 < Working_Cat> lib'rules
2008-05-02 12:19 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky I really do not want to think about it.
2008-05-02 12:19 < ThePolecat> Brb.
2008-05-02 12:19 < zocky> those damn libruls and their libraries
2008-05-02 12:19 < Shiroi_Neko> I guess merkel will make him wear a charsity belt
2008-05-02 12:19 < Working_Cat> nevermind.
2008-05-02 12:19 < Working_Cat> lets shut up for 30 mins now.
2008-05-02 12:19 < ThePolecat> zocky: The terrorists hate our civil libraries!
2008-05-02 12:20 < zocky> ThePolecat, the tarotists!
2008-05-02 12:20 < Shiroi_Neko> zocky one terrorist a day keeps the doctor away
2008-05-02 12:20 < ThePolecat> while a terroirist is someone who surveys wine regions.
2008-05-02 12:20 < ThePolecat> brb.
2008-05-02 12:21 < Working_Cat> Looooooooong_Cat is rather short
2008-05-02 12:21 < smallfoot-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Context_menu_windows.png <-- is non-free image, but the article it is used on 'Context menu' already have a free image
2008-05-02 12:21 < ThePolecat> Ron Paul should run on the Librarian ticket.
2008-05-02 12:21 < zocky> them terarists are also suspect
2008-05-02 12:21 < Working_Cat> ThePolecat: with a policy of not lending books
2008-05-02 12:21 < ThePolecat> to poor people
2008-05-02 12:21 < Working_Cat> or with a policy of no fines for late charges
2008-05-02 12:22 < zocky> smallfoot-, there's no rule that says that if you have one free image in an article you can't have any non-free images
2008-05-02 12:22 < Looooooooong_Cat> hi Working_Cat <3
2008-05-02 12:25 < smallfoot-> zocky, i thought non-free images could only be used when there were no free alternatives
2008-05-02 12:25 < zocky> smallfoot-, is there a free alternative for a windows context menu?
2008-05-02 12:25 < enok|walker> hay gang
2008-05-02 12:26 < zocky> you can't take a free picture of windows UI
2008-05-02 12:26 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> tell me how I'm s'pose to breathe
2008-05-02 12:26 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> with no airrr
2008-05-02 12:26 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> airrr
2008-05-02 12:28 < smallfoot-> zocky, no
2008-05-02 12:28 < smallfoot-> zocky, but Linux demonstrates the same concept
2008-05-02 12:29 < Aqwis> you can't illustrate [[Windows XP]] with a picture of a Linux UI :<
2008-05-02 12:29 < zocky> smallfoot-, windows is by far the most widespread OS, and not showing it would be an omission, IMO
2008-05-02 12:30 < Mike_H> If I should die before I wake
2008-05-02 12:30 < Mike_H> It's 'cause you took my breath away
2008-05-02 12:30 < Mike_H> Losing you is like living in a world
2008-05-02 12:30 < Mike_H> with no airrr
2008-05-02 12:30 < Mike_H> ohhhh
2008-05-02 12:31 < smallfoot-> Aqwis, true. But you can illustrate a 'context menu' with a picture from a GNOME context menu on Linux
2008-05-02 12:32 < Looooooooong_Cat> hey Mike_H
2008-05-02 12:33 < Working_Cat> "Kids do have to learn that life is a humiliating charade of endless disappointment and tragedy, ultimately culminating in pain, decay, and death. My parents used to sing me to sleep with that one."
2008-05-02 12:33 < Mike_H> Mariah Carey and actor Nick Cannon allegedly tie the knot in the Bahamas. �� Publicity stunt?
2008-05-02 12:34 < Mike_H> She just wants to twist the knife in deeper. Wasn't "Honey" enough?
2008-05-02 12:35 < smallfoot-> who cares about Mariah Carey or Nick Cannon
2008-05-02 12:35 < smallfoot-> lol
2008-05-02 12:35 < Mike_H> Mariah is only one step below goddess.
2008-05-02 12:35 < smallfoot-> I have better thing todo than to read or care about celebrity gossip
2008-05-02 12:35 < Mike_H> Nick Cannon can die in a fire.
2008-05-02 12:35 < smallfoot-> Mariah has ugly boobs
2008-05-02 12:36 < smallfoot-> its not (.)(.) its like (.) (.)
2008-05-02 12:36 < smallfoot-> huge space
2008-05-02 12:36 < smallfoot-> LOL
2008-05-02 12:36 < Looooooooong_Cat> she's a fuckin' diva
2008-05-02 12:36 < Mike_H> That's what bad plastic surgery will get ya
2008-05-02 12:36 < Lycurgus> any vista users here?
2008-05-02 12:37 * Shiroi_Neko applies plastic surgery to Mike_H
2008-05-02 12:37 * Shiroi_Neko thinks Mike_H can now open doors by using nose
2008-05-02 12:37 < Mike_H> Shiroi_Neko: :<
2008-05-02 12:37 * Lycurgus pets Mike_H
2008-05-02 12:38 * Mike_H pets Lycurgus
2008-05-02 12:38 * ThePolecat is back in
2008-05-02 12:38 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: Mariah got married!
2008-05-02 12:38 < Mike_H> I am so distraught.
2008-05-02 12:38 * Looooooooong_Cat pets ThePolecat
2008-05-02 12:38 * Looooooooong_Cat pets Mike_H
2008-05-02 12:38 * Looooooooong_Cat pets Lycurgus
2008-05-02 12:38 < Mike_H> :>
2008-05-02 12:38 < ThePolecat> I have no idea why I should care.
2008-05-02 12:38 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: It's Mariah. The whole world should care.
2008-05-02 12:39 < Looooooooong_Cat> Pete Doherty has been relased from jail
2008-05-02 12:39 < ThePolecat> Oh.
2008-05-02 12:39 < ThePolecat> Now, there's something I care about.
2008-05-02 12:39 < Looooooooong_Cat> well, it going to be relased from jail
2008-05-02 12:39 < Looooooooong_Cat> or Jason Biggs is going to be marired
2008-05-02 12:40 < Mike_H> smallfoot-: Watch the "Honey" video
2008-05-02 12:40 < Mike_H> it was Mariah pre-plastic surgery
2008-05-02 12:40 < ThePolecat> Mum, those people keep talking abut people I know nothing about.
2008-05-02 12:40 < Mike_H> her boobs aren't big but at least they're natural
2008-05-02 12:40 < Shiroi_Neko> Mike_H marrige is for weaklings
2008-05-02 12:40 < Lycurgus> hmm, so no Vista users, guess it really is a flop
2008-05-02 12:40 * ThePolecat uses Vister
2008-05-02 12:40 < Shiroi_Neko> Lycurgus I consider vista to be a deadly sin
2008-05-02 12:40 < Shiroi_Neko> I purge vista users from space/time
2008-05-02 12:41 < Lycurgus> ThePolecat: have you considered going back to XP?
2008-05-02 12:41 < ThePolecat> I've got XP on another machine and switch when I can
2008-05-02 12:41 < ThePolecat> :-)
2008-05-02 12:41 < Lycurgus> ah
2008-05-02 12:42 < Looooooooong_Cat> I run OSX and XP on the same machine
2008-05-02 12:42 < Lycurgus> does a lot of stuff not run on vista?
2008-05-02 12:42 < ThePolecat> Mostly when you haven't got enough RAM left, I daresay.
2008-05-02 12:42 < Working_Cat> i know for a fact that the doftware im working on does not
2008-05-02 12:42 < Working_Cat> software even
2008-05-02 12:42 * Working_Cat is trying to fixxit
2008-05-02 12:43 < Lycurgus> well I guess I'll wait till the next windows, if vista is as big of a turd as it seems, they'll prolly roll something else out next year
2008-05-02 12:44 < Lycurgus> s/turd/dud/
2008-05-02 12:45 < Looooooooong_Cat> you mean Windows 7?
2008-05-02 12:45 < Looooooooong_Cat> tested it
2008-05-02 12:45 < Lycurgus> i can wait to find out if i do
2008-05-02 12:46 < Looooooooong_Cat> It's much better than Vista
2008-05-02 12:47 * Shiroi_Neko thinks winddows should be abolished
2008-05-02 12:47 < Shiroi_Neko> everyone should use dos
2008-05-02 12:48 < Shiroi_Neko> Once you go black, you cant go back
2008-05-02 12:48 < Shiroi_Neko> Dos is black
2008-05-02 12:48 < Wiredtape> hehe
2008-05-02 12:48 < Wiredtape> Shiroi_Neko: stop being an infidel
2008-05-02 12:48 < Wiredtape> Sfan00, may i pm you?
2008-05-02 12:49 < Looooooooong_Cat> There is ineed a small HTTP server
2008-05-02 12:49 < Shiroi_Neko> Wiredtape i will not allow that
2008-05-02 12:49 < ThePolecat> If you're in the US, being a Fidel isn't so great either.
2008-05-02 12:49 < Wiredtape> hehe
2008-05-02 12:49 < Sfan00> Wiredtape: Whats the issue?
2008-05-02 12:50 < ThePolecat> Fidel Castro = Fiddle Case
2008-05-02 12:50 < Wiredtape> about a project of mine, uk law, now wikipedia related..
2008-05-02 12:50 < Wiredtape> Sfan00^^
2008-05-02 12:50 < Wiredtape> *not wikipedia realted
2008-05-02 12:50 * Wiredtape wonders what's going on with his typing
2008-05-02 12:51 * ThePolecat 's head hurts
2008-05-02 12:52 < Leslie_S> wtf is a continental breakfast?
2008-05-02 12:52 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: Have some Mariah
2008-05-02 12:52 * Mike_H NP: Mariah Carey - Honey (1997)
2008-05-02 12:52 * ThePolecat 's head asplode
2008-05-02 12:53 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: But you only had a taste
2008-05-02 12:53 < Mike_H> of her
2008-05-02 12:53 < Mike_H> honaaaaaay
2008-05-02 12:53 < enok|walker> Did I get kicked :s
2008-05-02 12:54 < Mike_H> * enok|walker has left #wikipedia ("Leaving")
2008-05-02 12:55 < kemalist> heil oh
2008-05-02 12:55 < ThePolecat> Yu-Gi-Oh?
2008-05-02 12:55 * Shiroi_Neko tosses kemalist out of the nearest airlock...
2008-05-02 12:56 < Shiroi_Neko> ThePolecat what do you know of anime?
2008-05-02 12:56 < ThePolecat> Nothing.
2008-05-02 12:56 < ThePolecat> I read that in TV guides.
2008-05-02 12:56 * Shiroi_Neko goes "Laughing man" on ThePolecat
2008-05-02 12:56 < Lycurgus> Wiredtape: your keyboard driver could be corrupted.
2008-05-02 12:56 < ThePolecat> I figured "Yu-Gi" might be a first name
2008-05-02 12:56 < atomicpotato> wtf, You-Gay-Hoe?
2008-05-02 12:57 < ThePolecat> You mean his keyboard driver accepts immoral contributions?
2008-05-02 12:57 < Shiroi_Neko> or
2008-05-02 12:57 < Shiroi_Neko> Wiredtape's keyboard was wiretapped
2008-05-02 12:58 < kemalist> may i ask something?
2008-05-02 12:58 < Wiredtape> Lycurgus: :) it might be my fingers..
2008-05-02 12:58 < Shiroi_Neko> kemalist yes
2008-05-02 12:58 < Shiroi_Neko> please do
2008-05-02 12:58 < kemalist> how do you handle stuffs like "genocides"
2008-05-02 12:58 < kemalist> in wikipedia?
2008-05-02 12:58 < kemalist> i mean, for example armenian genocide is disputed
2008-05-02 12:58 < ThePolecat> That smells like nationalistic infighting.
2008-05-02 12:58 < kemalist> ya no i'm not turk
2008-05-02 12:58 < ThePolecat> It *is* nationalistic infighting...
2008-05-02 12:58 < Aqwis> kemalist, you kick the turks in their nuts
2008-05-02 12:58 < Lycurgus> i thought you meant the grammar
2008-05-02 12:58 < Aqwis> and then you stab them
2008-05-02 12:59 < ThePolecat> And spread mean rumours.
2008-05-02 12:59 < Lycurgus> (english doesn't normally pluralize genocide)
2008-05-02 12:59 < Shiroi_Neko> kemalist well
2008-05-02 12:59 < ThePolecat> Multiple genocides are conceivable
2008-05-02 12:59 < Shiroi_Neko> articles are written based on sources
2008-05-02 12:59 < Shiroi_Neko> and neutral point of view
2008-05-02 12:59 < Shiroi_Neko> anyone can edit any articl
2008-05-02 12:59 < Shiroi_Neko> e
2008-05-02 13:00 < Lycurgus> "genocides" in English would have the default meaning of the range of concepts of genocides, not real world instances
2008-05-02 13:00 < Lycurgus> *genocide
2008-05-02 13:00 < Shiroi_Neko> "armenian genocide" article is a problematic article
2008-05-02 13:00 < ThePolecat> "the attempted genocides in Kosovo, Darfur and ..."
2008-05-02 13:00 < Shiroi_Neko> it lacks a stable version
2008-05-02 13:00 < Orbixx> Lycurgus: I would argue that it would depend entirely on the context in which the word is used.
2008-05-02 13:00 < Demi> i think most users would mean something like this genocide plus that genocide equals many genocides
2008-05-02 13:00 < Shiroi_Neko> and is in need of lots of work
2008-05-02 13:00 < Orbixx> For example.
2008-05-02 13:01 < Orbixx> "There have been multiple genocides worldwide."
2008-05-02 13:01 < Orbixx> and
2008-05-02 13:01 < Orbixx> "There are many different various genocides."
2008-05-02 13:01 < Shiroi_Neko> kemalist controversial articles are the hardlest kind to write
2008-05-02 13:01 < ral315> Yeah, "genocide" refers to one movement
2008-05-02 13:01 * ThePolecat once read the sentence "abortion is homocide", and I thought well, why do they oppose it then.
2008-05-02 13:01 < Lycurgus> for example the kind the US inlicts on Iraq vs. that Germany attempted on Jews, et. al would be considered two distinct genocides, and in fact the former is termed "sociacide" by some
2008-05-02 13:02 < ral315> One could have multiple genocides in the same country, but the Holocaust is collectively called a "genocide", because they're all part of the same movement.
2008-05-02 13:02 < kemalist> Shiroi_Neko, well, but "Armenian genocide" do exist
2008-05-02 13:02 < kemalist> *does
2008-05-02 13:02 < atomicpotato> kemalist, ITS A LIE
2008-05-02 13:02 < Shiroi_Neko> kemalist so you claim
2008-05-02 13:02 < kemalist> i mean, the page
2008-05-02 13:02 < ThePolecat> THEY! want to... never mind.
2008-05-02 13:02 < Lycurgus> no it's an attatrap!
2008-05-02 13:02 < Shiroi_Neko> but there are views that disagrees
2008-05-02 13:03 < Wiredtape> Lycurgus, *without entering into a major argumenet/debate* - i find those two distinct genocides completely different ...
2008-05-02 13:03 < Aqwis> are there any non-turks who don't believe the genocide happened?
2008-05-02 13:03 < ThePolecat> the ones I saw aren't awfully convincing, and I'm a big fan of Turkey as a country
2008-05-02 13:04 < Shiroi_Neko> Aqwis sure
2008-05-02 13:04 < Shiroi_Neko> most people dont care
2008-05-02 13:04 < Aqwis> well yes
2008-05-02 13:04 < Aqwis> "who believe the genocide didn't happen"
2008-05-02 13:04 < Aqwis> ;)
2008-05-02 13:04 < Shiroi_Neko> Aqwis most people only care about it for political reasons
2008-05-02 13:04 < Shiroi_Neko> Aqwis you are aslking like who doesnt believe nuking of japan wasnt a genocide
2008-05-02 13:04 < ThePolecat> Well, you can't blame people for "caring"
2008-05-02 13:04 < Shiroi_Neko> accepting as such will hurt your relations with the US
2008-05-02 13:05 * Mike_H NP: Tracey Ullman - Breakaway (1983)
2008-05-02 13:05 < Aqwis> Shiroi_Neko, i am not talking about governments
2008-05-02 13:05 < ThePolecat> Hiroshima wasn't genocide
2008-05-02 13:05 < kemalist> Aqwis, me
2008-05-02 13:05 < ThePolecat> the mens rea was missing.
2008-05-02 13:05 < kemalist> and i'm not turk
2008-05-02 13:05 < kemalist> and it's not about "who believe the genocide didn't happen"
2008-05-02 13:05 < Shiroi_Neko> Aqwis you mean historias?
2008-05-02 13:05 < ThePolecat> kemalist: Your nickname doesn't make you appear very NPOV.
2008-05-02 13:05 < ral315> Mike_H: I had Gloria Gaynor come up out of nowhere yesterday on a shuffled playlist, but you weren't here to celebrate it!
2008-05-02 13:06 < Aqwis> Shiroi_Neko, yes, are there any non-turk historians who believe there was never an armenian genocide
2008-05-02 13:06 < kemalist> it's rather like "was it genocide?"
2008-05-02 13:06 < Shiroi_Neko> Aqwis you have to understand
2008-05-02 13:06 < Shiroi_Neko> genocide is a legal clasification
2008-05-02 13:06 < ThePolecat> as in "let's give it a fluffier name, or make the definition of genocide absurdly narrow"
2008-05-02 13:06 < Shiroi_Neko> IIRC Justin McCarthy is one such historian
2008-05-02 13:07 < Shiroi_Neko> Aqwis it actualy is very complicated
2008-05-02 13:07 < Mike_H> ral315: no, I wasn't here!
2008-05-02 13:07 < Mike_H> :(
2008-05-02 13:07 < ral315> I think you're the only other person on this channel who doesn't abhor disco music.
2008-05-02 13:07 < ThePolecat> it's a battle over semantics afaics.
2008-05-02 13:07 < Shiroi_Neko> you see, historians who believed that it wasnt a genocide were often bombed by ASALA
2008-05-02 13:07 < Shiroi_Neko> so it is hard to know what people think
2008-05-02 13:07 * ThePolecat likes some disco tracks but abhors the majority
2008-05-02 13:08 < Mike_H> oh, I have a good '70s track
2008-05-02 13:08 < Mike_H> I wouldn't classify it as disco though
2008-05-02 13:08 < Mike_H> but it could be perhaps.
2008-05-02 13:08 < Shiroi_Neko> researching the "Armenian Genocide" is dangerous business
2008-05-02 13:08 < kemalist> Shiroi_Neko, how?
2008-05-02 13:08 < ThePolecat> oh, don't construct a "victimized scientist" image
2008-05-02 13:08 * Mike_H NP: Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing (1979)
2008-05-02 13:08 < Shiroi_Neko> kemalist a while ago I was reeding about the activities of ASALA
2008-05-02 13:08 < ThePolecat> that's a revisionist hobby nobody should indulge in.
2008-05-02 13:09 < Shiroi_Neko> the planted bombs at various targets
2008-05-02 13:09 < Shiroi_Neko> and mailed threats
2008-05-02 13:09 < Demi> ThePolecat - i was really pissed off yesterday, i went to the movies and they were showing that stupid ben stein creationism propaganda film
2008-05-02 13:09 < kemalist> what's ASALA?
2008-05-02 13:09 < ThePolecat> oh...
2008-05-02 13:09 < ThePolecat> I don't know about it.
2008-05-02 13:09 < Working_Cat> Mike_H: savin it up for friday night?
2008-05-02 13:09 < ThePolecat> Anyway, few things get on my nerves more than people saying "they become a victim for exposing the truth"
2008-05-02 13:09 < Demi> ThePolecat - "Scientific creationists who seriously study intelligent design are being denied tenure, publication and drummed out of reseach establishments, blah blah blah"
2008-05-02 13:10 < ThePolecat> Yea, precisely.
2008-05-02 13:10 < Shiroi_Neko> Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA) was an armed militant organisation in the 70's and 80's
2008-05-02 13:10 < Working_Cat> Demi: isnt that kinda what they deserve?
2008-05-02 13:10 < Demi> ThePolecat - it's no more credible than those youtube videos about how oprah is the priest of the end-times religion and obama is the antichrist, etc.
2008-05-02 13:10 < Demi> Working_Cat - of course
2008-05-02 13:10 < Shiroi_Neko> they had involved in many terrorist activites incuing the assasination of diplomats, bombing of various targets
2008-05-02 13:10 < Mike_H> Working_Cat: I'm going down
2008-05-02 13:10 < Mike_H> to Londontown.
2008-05-02 13:10 < ThePolecat> Yea, I just hate the self-victimization people use to rally others around a flag.
2008-05-02 13:10 < Demi> it irritates me very much for someone to even be taking it seriously enough to book the movie in their theater
2008-05-02 13:10 < ThePolecat> Mike_H: Good song.
2008-05-02 13:11 < Shiroi_Neko> group lost public support after the Orly airport bombing
2008-05-02 13:11 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: It was a hit here as well back in '79.
2008-05-02 13:11 < Mike_H> It may have been a #1, I can't remember.
2008-05-02 13:11 * ThePolecat nods
2008-05-02 13:11 < ThePolecat> brb
2008-05-02 13:11 < Demi> ThePolecat - i have a friend who keeps sending me these links about "all the scientists who don't believe in global warming" and how, i guess, the man is keeping them down
2008-05-02 13:11 < Mike_H> It entered the American music pop charts in early-1979. Unusually, the success of this single release came more than six months after the relatively unheralded release of the band's debut album in October of 1978; the song reached the top 10 in both the UK and the U.S., and helped drive sales of the album, which also became a hit.
2008-05-02 13:11 < ral315> Mike_H: Just a Top 10 in US/UK, according to our article.
2008-05-02 13:11 < ThePolecat> Yep.
2008-05-02 13:12 < Demi> Mike_H - Lady_Aleena here was looking for digital copies of the Disco Star Wars theme...
2008-05-02 13:12 < Mike_H> Demi: oh my.
2008-05-02 13:12 < Demi> i immediately thought of bill murray's SNL sketch, though I know the song she's talking about
2008-05-02 13:12 < ral315> I think my dad denies global warming, but knows nothing about the science behind it.
2008-05-02 13:13 < Mike_H> ThePolecat: I do know that "Sultans of Swing" was the #27 most-popular song in the US in 1979, based on airplay and record sales
2008-05-02 13:13 < Mike_H> Solid Gold taught me that.
2008-05-02 13:13 < ral315> My grandpa believes in global warming, but only because "the summers seem warmer"
2008-05-02 13:13 < Shiroi_Neko> Global warming is insignificat
2008-05-02 13:13 < Shiroi_Neko> the problem is climate change
2008-05-02 13:13 < Shiroi_Neko> natural or artificial it needs to be adressed
2008-05-02 13:13 < ral315> Well, the two go hand-in-hand.
2008-05-02 13:13 < Mike_H> The #1 song for 1979 was "Da Ya Think I'm Sexy?" by Rod Stewart.
2008-05-02 13:13 < Mike_H> Yeah, totally gross.
2008-05-02 13:13 < Demi> hehe
2008-05-02 13:13 * ThePolecat decides to listen to what he considers the second-best record of the decade
2008-05-02 13:13 < Shiroi_Neko> Mike_H I do not believe guys would find you sexy
2008-05-02 13:13 < Shiroi_Neko> gays might
2008-05-02 13:14 < ThePolecat> Mark Knopfler's "Sailing To Philadelphia"