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2008-05-01 20:46 < Filll> I am not going to tell you here
2008-05-01 20:46 < TheWeaselEsq> You're on different continents?
2008-05-01 20:46 < Filll> Just take it from me...we do not want him on Skype
2008-05-01 20:46 < Filll> we can have him on POTS (plain old telephone service)
2008-05-01 20:47 < Filll> He is too dangerous
2008-05-01 20:48 < Lucifer_Cat> who we talkin bout?
2008-05-01 20:48 < TheWeaselEsq> Dan Brandt I think.
2008-05-01 20:49 < Filll> Ok Messedrocker: Why do you want Brandt anyway? What is your reasoning?
2008-05-01 20:49 < Messedrocker> he'd be interesting to have on a podcast
2008-05-01 20:49 < gwern> it's kind of pathetic brandt is still at it, even when we caved and deleted his article
2008-05-01 20:50 * gwern is tempted to send a snarky email to wikien-l
2008-05-01 20:53 * Lucifer_Cat huggles Mike_H
2008-05-01 20:54 < TheWeaselEsq> Why are 70s soundtracks so invariably cheesy?
2008-05-01 20:54 < Messedrocker> is the 70s
2008-05-01 20:54 < Messedrocker> is why
2008-05-01 20:54 < TheWeaselEsq> fine...
2008-05-01 21:00 * Lucifer_Cat fines TheWeaselEsq for asking cheesy questions.
2008-05-01 21:01 * TheWeaselEsq promises to ask a sausagy one later
2008-05-01 21:01 < Lucifer_Cat> hehe
2008-05-01 21:01 < Lucifer_Cat> can be tomatoey too
2008-05-01 21:01 * Looooooooong_Cat asks Lucifer_Cat silly questions
2008-05-01 21:01 < flyingpcp> skype spike sent
2008-05-01 21:01 < flyingpcp> try saying that 10 times fast
2008-05-01 21:01 * Lucifer_Cat gives Looooooooong_Cat some putty to play with
2008-05-01 21:02 * Looooooooong_Cat shapes it into a phallic shape
2008-05-01 21:02 * Lucifer_Cat is hardly surprised
2008-05-01 21:02 * Looooooooong_Cat does Rule 34 on it
2008-05-01 21:04 * TheWeaselEsq filibusters the Rule 34
2008-05-01 21:04 < Lucifer_Cat> flyingpcp: skenp skite kais kais kent
2008-05-01 21:04 < Lucifer_Cat> thats the closest representation i could do
2008-05-01 21:04 < gwern> buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo
2008-05-01 21:05 * TheWeaselEsq buffalos the room
2008-05-01 21:06 < Looooooooong_Cat> Beef curtains?
2008-05-01 21:07 < Lucifer_Cat> http://youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4 <-- lolzors
2008-05-01 21:10 * Lucifer_Cat orders an inquiry about where did he start using the term 'lolzors'
2008-05-01 21:12 < Looooooooong_Cat> lolzorz
2008-05-01 21:16 * gwern looks shiftily around and calls in the black wafflecoptors
2008-05-01 21:18 < Lucifer_Cat> WAFFLES!
2008-05-01 21:18 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_uuN5kuq74&feature=related
2008-05-01 21:18 * TheWeaselEsq has "a dent in his waffle"
2008-05-01 21:19 * Lucifer_Cat has a grid of them
2008-05-01 21:19 < gwern> so I was reading a book today
2008-05-01 21:19 < gwern> 'The Discovery of France'
2008-05-01 21:20 < gwern> it mentions that travel in france was atrocious right up to the 20th century
2008-05-01 21:20 < gwern> and it quotes a phrasebook for french travellers in the french interior
2008-05-01 21:20 < gwern> one of the phrases was: "I believe the wheels are on fire. Please check and see."
2008-05-01 21:21 < Lucifer_Cat> hahahaha
2008-05-01 21:21 < TheWeaselEsq> Heh... I think I know that phrasebook, it's hilarious
2008-05-01 21:21 < Lucifer_Cat> phrases like these are a good indication that you should not be going down there
2008-05-01 21:21 < TheWeaselEsq> "Do you wish some foot powder, kind sir?" "No, but would you mind terribly to apply some moustache wax?"
2008-05-01 21:22 < gwern> 'Bring some clean sheets, and be assured I will inspect them closely.'
2008-05-01 21:23 < gwern> 'I have sheets of my own, but I always ask for sheets to put on top of the mattress'
2008-05-01 21:23 < gwern> 'Postilion, I would like to alight and go on the ferry on foot.' 'Please do not attempt to dissuade me, my mind is firm.'
2008-05-01 21:24 < gwern> 'Postilion, a man just climbed on back.'
2008-05-01 21:24 < TheWeaselEsq> I know the second one.
2008-05-01 21:24 < TheWeaselEsq> It also told you how to ask for fish and chips
2008-05-01 21:24 < TheWeaselEsq> (in France [!])
2008-05-01 21:25 < gwern> TheWeaselEsq: don't be surprised. the english practically invaded as tourists
2008-05-01 21:26 < gwern> they did as much to promote the idea of a french nation as anyone else did, simply because they wanted a france to visit
2008-05-01 21:27 < gwern> the author notes that if you lived in, say, Champagne and wanted fine wine, you were better off heading north and finding an english enclave
2008-05-01 21:27 < debian> Hello
2008-05-01 21:27 < gwern> apparently the french of the winemaking regions preferred to drink water strained through the mashed grapes than actual fine wine
2008-05-01 21:27 < debian> no?
2008-05-01 21:28 < gwern> greetings fellow human
2008-05-01 21:28 < gwern> did the debian project finally acheieve sapience?
2008-05-01 21:28 < debian> gwern: No, just artificiall intelegence.
2008-05-01 21:29 < gwern> acheiving strong ai is usually taken to mean constructing something with full sapience, btw
2008-05-01 21:30 < debian> Then that is what we have done.
2008-05-01 21:38 < edsu> anyone know if it's possible to subscribe to the recent changes rss or atom? http://en.wikipedia.org//w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=rss
2008-05-01 21:38 < edsu> i'm getting Access Denied page
2008-05-01 21:40 < Inc> any problem with me parsing wikipedia?
2008-05-01 21:43 < Lucifer_Cat> Inc: everyone parses WP all the time. it depends on how you wanna do it and for what
2008-05-01 21:44 < Inc> Lucifer_Cat: thinking of making a medication software for paramedics
2008-05-01 21:44 < Inc> that lists pictures / information of meds
2008-05-01 21:44 < Cyrius> Inc: Wikipedia's reliability is not guaranteed, especially for life and death situations
2008-05-01 21:44 < Inc> true
2008-05-01 21:45 < Lucifer_Cat> 1. WP might not be the best source for that
2008-05-01 21:45 < Inc> not sure there's really a better source...
2008-05-01 21:45 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, what Cyrius said
2008-05-01 21:45 < Sarahndipity> Viagra vandals?
2008-05-01 21:45 < Lucifer_Cat> Inc: their own manuals/whatever it is they have
2008-05-01 21:45 < Inc> Lucifer_Cat: eh, we don't have anything all that great
2008-05-01 21:46 < Inc> especially not in software form
2008-05-01 21:46 < Lucifer_Cat> well ofcourse
2008-05-01 21:46 < Inc> also I like that wikipedia is fairly up to date on lawsuits / problems etc
2008-05-01 21:47 < Lucifer_Cat> well, as long as yu dont sue wiki for some screw-up and dont make money otherwise at wikipedias expense, you can do what you want i guess.
2008-05-01 21:47 < Lucifer_Cat> but ask someone else too
2008-05-01 21:48 < Inc> maybe rxlist
2008-05-01 21:50 < Lucifer_Cat> i mean some other WPian about using WP
2008-05-01 21:54 < Inc> yeah
2008-05-01 21:55 < Looooooooong_Cat> hey FastLizard4 :)
2008-05-01 21:56 < FastLizard4> Hi Looooooooong_Cat
2008-05-01 21:56 < FastLizard4> Oh dear, 8 Firefox add-ons updates 9_9
2008-05-01 22:02 * TheWeaselEsq plays online Mornington Crescent
2008-05-01 22:05 < TheWeaselEsq> *Bob Dylan - Good As I Been To You (1992)
2008-05-01 22:12 < Lucifer_Cat> Whizzle has a good taste in music
2008-05-01 22:13 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is-dYTY7P0A&NR=1
2008-05-01 22:17 < Messedrocker> kittens!
2008-05-01 22:20 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PJQCXvBqrQ&feature=related
2008-05-01 22:21 < FastLizard4> I think mibbit got k-lined again
2008-05-01 22:22 < FastLizard4> hmm, it isn't, but why am I getting ``Could not connect: Terminated'' errors?
2008-05-01 22:23 < Demi> it means every time you connect, someone is getting killed.
2008-05-01 22:24 < FastLizard4> :O
2008-05-01 22:27 < gwern> 'Each boot consists of a foot-plate with snowboard type bindings, rubber foot pad which is also commonly called a hoof, and a fibreglass leaf spring. Using only their weight, and few movements, the user is generally able to jump 3–5 ft (1–1.5 meters) off the ground and run up to 20 mph (32 km/h). They also give the ability to take up to 9 foot strides.'
2008-05-01 22:27 < gwern> cool
2008-05-01 22:28 < gwern> 'Forget bikram yoga, boxercise and circus acrobatics: the latest way to get fit is to strap on a pair of Powerisers and start leaping down the street.
2008-05-01 22:28 < gwern> Powerisers are spring-loaded boots (imagine a cross between stilts and pogo sticks). They strap on to normal shoes and give users almost superhuman powers — enabling them to jump up to six feet in the air, take nine-foot strides and run at more than 20mph. '
2008-05-01 22:29 < gwern> 'Gingerly, I stand up. It's an extraordinary sensation - in my Powerisers I'm a dizzying 7ft 4in and the springs are making me bounce with every step.
2008-05-01 22:29 < gwern> I'm terrified I'm going to fall over. It seems I'm a terrifying sight, too - a toddler points at me and bursts into tears. '
2008-05-01 22:31 < Monobi> gwern, 'nough
2008-05-01 22:31 * gwern pities da foo' who dislikes my style
2008-05-01 22:36 < Lucifer_Cat> no wonder gwern is 1 on wordcount
2008-05-01 22:37 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: I never claimed to be a paragon of prolixity or bombast
2008-05-01 22:37 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: i never said you did
2008-05-01 22:38 < Lucifer_Cat> btw did you copy paste this or did you write it yerself?
2008-05-01 22:38 < gwern> -_- I wrote it all myself. the quotes are an affectation
2008-05-01 22:38 < Messedrocker> i am thinking
2008-05-01 22:38 < Messedrocker> do you think it is possible that a dog's bark and a cat's meow serve different purposes?
2008-05-01 22:38 < Lucifer_Cat> nice writing
2008-05-01 22:39 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah
2008-05-01 22:39 < Messedrocker> a dog's bark to me is about intimidation and summoning reinforcement
2008-05-01 22:39 * gwern puts on a fake mole, and contemplates my perm. oh, I say phinneaus, the christmas ball will be a dee-light!
2008-05-01 22:39 < Messedrocker> a meow is way too mild to be intimidating
2008-05-01 22:39 * gwern simpers a little for good measure
2008-05-01 22:39 < gwern> Messedrocker: I'd say the vocalizations of dogs and cats are too diverse to be so simply categorized
2008-05-01 22:41 * Lucifer_Cat didnt know we were having a 'state the darn obvious' competition
2008-05-01 22:41 < gwern> was my response that devastating? o.0
2008-05-01 22:42 < Cyrius> often is!
2008-05-01 22:43 < gwern> 'Their anger at Bush is now expressed in far stronger and more coherent terms than the original off-the-cuff comment. "We were told the official White House quote on our ordeal," Maines recalls. "I thought it was going to be something empowering about the first amendment and our rights as American citizens. I don't know why I thought such an educated thing could have come out of there. Instead it was, 'Their fans have spoken.'"'
2008-05-01 22:43 < gwern> (this is re: dixie chicks)
2008-05-01 22:52 < gwern> http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Popularpages <-- conservapaedia, the most comprehensive encyclopedia on homosexuality there is
2008-05-01 22:52 < gwern> KNOW YOUR ENEMY
2008-05-01 22:52 < Cyrius> =)
2008-05-01 22:53 < Cyrius> it makes you wonder =)
2008-05-01 23:01 < cimon> Lol. I just visited the hebrew wikipedia for the first time...
2008-05-01 23:02 < cimon> I nearly spat my coffee through my nose.
2008-05-01 23:02 < cimon> They have their logo on the right side of the page...
2008-05-01 23:02 < Charitwo> cimon: sounds normal
2008-05-01 23:03 < cimon> yes, but the viscereal impact was also normal
2008-05-01 23:03 < The359> all the languages that read right to left are that way, cimon
2008-05-01 23:03 < cimon> one can understand something intellecually as much as one likes, but ones body still reacts from the gut.
2008-05-01 23:04 < Gracenotes> I doubt anyone would be terribly shocked looking at a hebrew book
2008-05-01 23:05 < cimon> Gracenotes: well, I was mighty puzzled by some manga... even though translated, those are still read from back to front...
2008-05-01 23:06 < cimon> Of course one understands that, the compositon of adjoining pages etc.
2008-05-01 23:07 < Gracenotes> confused, yeah. coffee-snarfing unlikely.
2008-05-01 23:07 < cimon> but again that is just intellectually
2008-05-01 23:07 < cimon> Gracenotes: well, obviuosly you and I have different thresholds.
2008-05-01 23:08 < Bardamu> Hello
2008-05-01 23:10 < cimon> It appears that one of the wikipedians who got me finally and irrevocably hooked on wikipedia editing is now a member of the board of Wikimedia Israel. Rotem Danzig.
2008-05-01 23:11 < cimon> We had a fine old time building up the framework of wikipedias coverage of logical fallacies.
2008-05-01 23:11 < cimon> Though very little of my original contributions remains...
2008-05-01 23:12 < cimon> [[Overwhelming exception]] has some text I phrased.
2008-05-01 23:14 * Lucifer_Cat huggles cimon
2008-05-01 23:14 < Gracenotes> before I started editing I recall being impressed by Wikipedia's coverage of logical fallacies.
2008-05-01 23:16 < Lucifer_Cat> Gracenotes: one wonders how they have such deep knowledge of logical fallacies ;)
2008-05-01 23:16 < Lucifer_Cat> cuz afaik, NTWW wasnt on at that time :P
2008-05-01 23:16 < TheWeaselEsq> When I'd started editing, I was impressed by how well Wikipedia contributers applied logical fallacies.
2008-05-01 23:16 < Lucifer_Cat> no well, that joke should have been aimed at privatemusings
2008-05-01 23:17 < Lucifer_Cat> TheWeaselEsq: thats just being a smartass
2008-05-01 23:17 < Lucifer_Cat> what do they call a smartass in german?
2008-05-01 23:17 < TheWeaselEsq> It's no less truthful.
2008-05-01 23:17 < TheWeaselEsq> um...
2008-05-01 23:17 < TheWeaselEsq> Klugscheißer
2008-05-01 23:17 < Lucifer_Cat> nothing cooler sounding?
2008-05-01 23:17 < TheWeaselEsq> You may suggest something.
2008-05-01 23:17 < TheWeaselEsq> but hey, it has an ß
2008-05-01 23:18 < Lucifer_Cat> nah, i just want a coolsounding insult
2008-05-01 23:18 < TheWeaselEsq> that makes it cool by definition
2008-05-01 23:18 < TheWeaselEsq> It sounds quite pleasant
2008-05-01 23:18 < Lucifer_Cat> lol yeah that character /IS/ awesome
2008-05-01 23:18 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Fallacy - I fear this article is not long of wikipedia...
2008-05-01 23:18 * Lucifer_Cat is missing quantickle. why did that confused cat have to drive him off.
2008-05-01 23:19 < cimon> I get sceißer, but what is "klug"?
2008-05-01 23:19 < Lucifer_Cat> im frankly surprised that theres no [[Wikipeida fallacy]]
2008-05-01 23:20 < TheWeaselEsq> klug = smart
2008-05-01 23:20 < Lucifer_Cat> "kkk linux users group"
2008-05-01 23:20 < cimon> hehe
2008-05-01 23:20 < Lucifer_Cat> "klu klug klan"
2008-05-01 23:20 < The359> kill it, cimon
2008-05-01 23:21 < Lucifer_Cat> kill what
2008-05-01 23:21 < cimon> the koogle fallacy?
2008-05-01 23:21 < The359> Kill that article
2008-05-01 23:21 < Lucifer_Cat> im proposing creating a [[wikipedia fallacy]] and a circular reference
2008-05-01 23:21 < Lucifer_Cat> i mean reference to a circular reference
2008-05-01 23:21 < TheWeaselEsq> with loads of Wikipedia citations.
2008-05-01 23:22 < Lucifer_Cat> TheWeaselEsq: tee hee hee
2008-05-01 23:22 < cimon> The359: I am mightily tempted, but I suspect it will be excreted in the normal course of things, without my intercession...
2008-05-01 23:23 < Lucifer_Cat> no but seriously, we could say something about how people say "wiki it" and "its on wikipedia" and the kind of thinking that "its on WP so its true" which might not always be, depending on when the subject checked the article
2008-05-01 23:24 < cimon> you can always quote colbert
2008-05-01 23:24 < Lucifer_Cat> and refer to the slashdot article as an example of how people /try/ to create circular references. and also stuff like wikiality and truthiness
2008-05-01 23:24 < Lucifer_Cat> heh cimon beat me to it :P
2008-05-01 23:24 < TheWeaselEsq> bad .... hair .... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Silkwood_imp.jpg
2008-05-01 23:25 < Gracenotes> Lucifer_Cat: as someone at that Slashdot article said, Web 2.0 is chock full with circular references :)
2008-05-01 23:25 < Lucifer_Cat> bad bad bad females
2008-05-01 23:25 < Lucifer_Cat> Gracenotes: too true :)
2008-05-01 23:25 < TheWeaselEsq> just incredibly awful hairdos
2008-05-01 23:25 < Lucifer_Cat> i meant in that movie btw
2008-05-01 23:26 < Gracenotes> the hope is that most of them reference facts
2008-05-01 23:26 * Lucifer_Cat is reminded of one story arc in Dilbert
2008-05-01 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> where how some product was supposed to be "everyone would want one"
2008-05-01 23:27 < Lucifer_Cat> but turned out it was "Avery Wong would want one"
2008-05-01 23:27 < cimon> There is a classic moment in that movie, where Streep flashes her boob. I suppose it was done to increase the poignancy of the movie, but it didn't work for me. I just thought. "What, they flash a boob in this movie, why the fuck?"
2008-05-01 23:27 < Lucifer_Cat> and that too was made up.
2008-05-01 23:28 < Lucifer_Cat> cimon: why? what was the movie about?
2008-05-01 23:28 < Lucifer_Cat> also who would want to see streepnipple
2008-05-01 23:28 < cimon> it's about industrial malfeasance, I think it was a nuke plant
2008-05-01 23:28 < Lucifer_Cat> chertit... maybe...
2008-05-01 23:29 < cimon> Lucifer_Cat: hey, her boob was okay... her face not so much...
2008-05-01 23:29 < Lucifer_Cat> ah and then, she might not have been 80 at that time
2008-05-01 23:30 * Gracenotes finds the music video for Move Along excessively disorienting
2008-05-01 23:32 < Lucifer_Cat> Gracenotes: linky love
2008-05-01 23:32 < Lucifer_Cat> i mean linkkit
2008-05-01 23:33 < cimon> Personally in the poignancy departmen, Will Smith leaving for El Toro in Independence Day was far better, than the flashing boob of Streep, even though that movie had plenty of scenes that *didn't* work.
2008-05-01 23:33 < Gracenotes> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSbGur1dz9k
2008-05-01 23:35 < Lucifer_Cat> ok 45 seconds. i already started hating it. im not watching any more of it.
2008-05-01 23:35 < Lucifer_Cat> does not look like it will get any less sad/depressing
2008-05-01 23:37 < Gracenotes> at least it's not creepy, like Michael Jackson's Black or White music video
2008-05-01 23:37 * Lucifer_Cat does not remember B/W as being creepy...
2008-05-01 23:37 < cimon> Gracenotes: Is that the one with Macca?
2008-05-01 23:37 < Gracenotes> with the nightmare-inducing face blending at the end...
2008-05-01 23:37 < Lucifer_Cat> but maybe i was too young to remember
2008-05-01 23:38 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI9OYMRwN1Q
2008-05-01 23:39 < Gracenotes> cimon: Culkin? yeah
2008-05-01 23:39 < Gracenotes> if that's who you mean
2008-05-01 23:39 < cimon> nah
2008-05-01 23:39 < cimon> Cartney
2008-05-01 23:40 * Lucifer_Cat remembers now
2008-05-01 23:40 < Gracenotes> oh no, I feel so culturally illiterate. >_>
2008-05-01 23:40 < Lucifer_Cat> is that the one where all the faces morph?
2008-05-01 23:40 < Lucifer_Cat> Gracenotes: no it is Culkin. cimon is just fugging with you
2008-05-01 23:42 < cimon> wow! you weren't kidding, that one has Caulking
2008-05-01 23:42 < cimon> I am sincerely astonished.
2008-05-01 23:42 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-05-01 23:43 < Lucifer_Cat> its not a bad song really... for its time.
2008-05-01 23:44 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Say_Say - this is the one I was thinking of, with the *other* Macca.
2008-05-01 23:45 < Lucifer_Cat> lol the face morphing... thoguh cool, is very disturbing indeed.
2008-05-01 23:45 < Lucifer_Cat> though
2008-05-01 23:46 < cimon> "This song was also covered in a duet by Ska band Reel Big Fish and punk band Zolof the Rock & Roll Destroyer in the album 'Duet all night long.' With Reel big fish backing singer and trumpet player Scott Klopfenstein singing the lead vocals along with Zolof the rock n roll destroyers lead singer Rachel Minton." - you can't beat that for an encyclopaedic paragraph...
2008-05-01 23:47 < cimon> nothing at all funny there but the names of all involved.
2008-05-01 23:47 < Lucifer_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Song that one was the highes requested song on the indian version of TRL for ages.
2008-05-01 23:47 < Lucifer_Cat> atleast till i stopped watching
2008-05-01 23:50 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, that vid is even more relevant today than it was when it came out
2008-05-01 23:50 < Gracenotes> We are the World, on the other hand, was probably never relevant...
2008-05-01 23:52 * Lucifer_Cat never really liked that song much
2008-05-01 23:52 < TheWeaselEsq> Michael Jackson has always been a pompous arse with a tenuous grasp on what he was for or against.
2008-05-01 23:53 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvWMLAWrEjU&feature=related
2008-05-01 23:54 < Lucifer_Cat> is it just me or does anyone else think that MJ did /have/ a point
2008-05-01 23:54 < Lucifer_Cat> still has
2008-05-01 23:55 < Gracenotes> oh look, he's wearing a blue collar in the video. :|
2008-05-01 23:56 < Ral315> Gracenotes, but "We are the world" led to the greatest parody ever.
2008-05-01 23:56 < Ral315> "We are the Old" -- http://youtube.com/watch?v=YzF0oPFtiOg
2008-05-01 23:58 < Lucifer_Cat> "we are the old... we got arthritis"
2008-05-01 23:59 < Gracenotes> I don't recall a V 6/4 -> V anywhere in the original song :|
2008-05-02 00:00 < Ral315> There are so many great artists there -- John Sebastian, Peter Noone, Spencer Davis, Richie Havens, Robbie Krieger
2008-05-02 00:00 < Gracenotes> it's actually more of the dominant's suspended 4th resolving on the 3rd
2008-05-02 00:01 * Gracenotes is not impressed <_<
2008-05-02 00:01 < Lucifer_Cat> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nej4xJe4Tdg
2008-05-02 00:02 < Gracenotes> Lucifer_Cat: almost expected a plot line there...
2008-05-02 00:03 < Gracenotes> and "harmonica solo" isn't a palindrome :P
2008-05-02 00:03 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-05-02 00:04 < Lucifer_Cat> that cool thing is that it is /*SO*/ Dylanish
2008-05-02 00:04 < Lucifer_Cat> my fave al song though is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-gi4Nt_xxg&NR=1
2008-05-02 00:05 < Lucifer_Cat> "their responses didnt thrill us... they locked the door and tried to kill us"
2008-05-02 00:11 * Ceiling_Cat huggles Lucifer_Cat
2008-05-02 00:11 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycgegp0KdE4 :(
2008-05-02 00:12 * Lucifer_Cat huggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-05-02 00:12 < Gracenotes> hm, my JS file is 32 KB at this point.
2008-05-02 00:12 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - I already know what most of it means
2008-05-02 00:12 < Ceiling_Cat> at least hte traditional interpreation
2008-05-02 00:12 < Lucifer_Cat> i know it too
2008-05-02 00:12 < Lucifer_Cat> i just wanted the song
2008-05-02 00:12 < Ceiling_Cat> the girl who sang the blues = Janis Joplin
2008-05-02 00:12 < Ceiling_Cat> the devil = mic jagger
2008-05-02 00:13 < Ceiling_Cat> the king = elvis
2008-05-02 00:13 < Ceiling_Cat> the jester = bob dylan
2008-05-02 00:13 < Ceiling_Cat> helter skelter = reference to the beatles and the manson family
2008-05-02 00:14 < Ceiling_Cat> 8 miles high = a novel of the time
2008-05-02 00:15 < Lucifer_Cat> i always thought it was "lenin read a book on marx" though ofcourse it was anachronastic
2008-05-02 00:17 < strobedream> hey does amidanial still hang out around here?
2008-05-02 00:18 < Gracenotes> from time to time... he was last on about a day ago
2008-05-02 00:18 < strobedream> Gracenotes: ok cool.
2008-05-02 00:18 < Gracenotes> well, 23 hours 51 minutes...
2008-05-02 00:19 < Lucifer_Cat> too many stalkers on here these days :P
2008-05-02 00:19 < strobedream> So is wikipedia doing anything about some of the zealots running around?
2008-05-02 00:19 < strobedream> yeah I talked to him today after class.
2008-05-02 00:24 < Ceiling_Cat> Are there any newbies around?
2008-05-02 00:24 * Ceiling_Cat needs feeding
2008-05-02 00:24 < Lucifer_Cat> lol Ceiling_Cat i just had a very disturbing image
2008-05-02 00:25 < Lucifer_Cat> i wont share it with you. but had something to do with "feeding"
2008-05-02 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Wikipedia:Newcomers are delicious, so go ahead and bite them]]?
2008-05-02 00:25 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: bite my shiny metal ass
2008-05-02 00:25 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: i could use some newb work on some articles over the weekend.
2008-05-02 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> See also: [[Image:William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) - Dante And Virgil In Hell (1850).jpg]]
2008-05-02 00:27 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, co-incidentally, i am reading Inferno these days
2008-05-02 00:30 < Lucifer_Cat> [[Songs that refer to lots of events]] or something like that
2008-05-02 00:30 < Charitwo> why is wikipedia irc folks obsessed with cats
2008-05-02 00:31 < FastLizard4|Food> Charitwo: #wikipedia in joke
2008-05-02 00:31 < Charitwo> enough to use ____Cat as a primary nick ?
2008-05-02 00:31 < Ceiling_Cat> Charitwo - I suppose I bear some responsibility for that
2008-05-02 00:32 < Ceiling_Cat> : )
2008-05-02 00:32 * TheWeaselEsq finds a dick joke of his still included in Uncyc
2008-05-02 00:32 < FastLizard4|Food> Charitwo: Besides, why does it matter? This is #wikipedia
2008-05-02 00:32 < FastLizard4|Food> Dammit, dircbot removed my ban :|
2008-05-02 00:32 < Charitwo> FastLizard4|Food: so?
2008-05-02 00:32 < FastLizard4|Food> Charitwo: Does it even matter why?
2008-05-02 00:33 < Charitwo> FastLizard4|Food: because I was curious, is that not good enough reason to not be badgered?
2008-05-02 00:33 < Ceiling_Cat> FastLizard4|Food - because this is the internet
2008-05-02 00:33 < Ceiling_Cat> It's serious fucking buisness
2008-05-02 00:33 < FastLizard4|Food> Ceiling_Cat: hehe
2008-05-02 00:33 < Ceiling_Cat> (Sorry, I could not resist)
2008-05-02 00:33 < FastLizard4|Food> Charitwo: Ask Ceiling_Cat, he started it all
2008-05-02 00:34 * Ceiling_Cat has turned this channel mildly cat crazy
2008-05-02 00:34 < FastLizard4|Food> Ceiling_Cat: Was it the viagra_cat joke?
2008-05-02 00:34 < Ceiling_Cat> FastLizard4|Food - that was a good one; I'm also partial to LOUD_CAT
2008-05-02 00:35 < Ceiling_Cat> (which is funny if used in moderation)
2008-05-02 00:35 < Lucifer_Cat> MOAR KATZ!!! <preferably female and shaved>
2008-05-02 00:35 < FastLizard4|Food> XD
2008-05-02 00:35 < Ceiling_Cat> See also: http://xkcd.com/262/
2008-05-02 00:35 < witt> #wikia
2008-05-02 00:35 < Lucifer_Cat> thats about inanity of statement?
2008-05-02 00:35 < Charitwo> I know, every time i see Ceiling_Cat i'm reminded of the DerHexer is watching you image
2008-05-02 00:35 < Ceiling_Cat> Charitwo - link plz
2008-05-02 00:35 < Lucifer_Cat> Charitwo: linkkit
2008-05-02 00:35 < Charitwo> trying to find it
2008-05-02 00:37 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat, Charitwo , FastLizard4|Food : http://www.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=10757077
2008-05-02 00:37 < Charitwo> ahhhh, d[^_^]b... where was it ?
2008-05-02 00:37 < FastLizard4|Food> Lucifer_Cat: HA!
2008-05-02 00:38 < Lucifer_Cat> what?
2008-05-02 00:38 < FastLizard4|Food> Lucifer_Cat: Oh, sorry, wrong cat
2008-05-02 00:38 * Ceiling_Cat clicks
2008-05-02 00:38 < FastLizard4|Food> Ceiling_Cat: HA!
2008-05-02 00:38 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-05-02 00:38 < Ceiling_Cat> ...I don't understand
2008-05-02 00:39 < Lucifer_Cat> isnt he just cute
2008-05-02 00:39 < Lucifer_Cat> and adoptable
2008-05-02 00:39 < enok|walker> Am I right in thinking this is original research: [[Rip_Slyme#Rip_Slyme:_J-Pop_or_Hip-Hop.3F]]
2008-05-02 00:40 < FastLizard4|Food> Ceiling_Cat: the xkcd link
2008-05-02 00:40 < FastLizard4|Food> Lucifer_Cat: yup
2008-05-02 00:41 < minerale> what language do they speak in Malaysia?
2008-05-02 00:41 < FastLizard4|Food> minerale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia
2008-05-02 00:41 < Ral315> Ceiling_Cat, I saw a woman with that XKCD pic posted in their cubicle.
2008-05-02 00:41 < enok|walker> malay?
2008-05-02 00:41 < FastLizard4|Food> Malay I think it's called
2008-05-02 00:41 < FastLizard4|Food> yeah
2008-05-02 00:41 < minerale> trying to figure out why we have an article about a Malay tv show.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akademi_Fantasia
2008-05-02 00:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Ral315 - I have *so many* xkcd pics posted on my office door
2008-05-02 00:42 < minerale> complete with all the episodes..
2008-05-02 00:42 < FastLizard4|Food> {{csd-a7}}!
2008-05-02 00:42 < Ceiling_Cat> I think I have space for *maybe* one more, and I think the cat captions pic might be the one
2008-05-02 00:43 < minerale> maybe a portion of Malsya speaks english?
2008-05-02 00:43 < minerale> something like in Canada's french speaking regions.
2008-05-02 00:43 < Ral315> http://xkcd.com/410/
2008-05-02 00:44 < Lucifer_Cat> tee ee heee
2008-05-02 00:44 < Lucifer_Cat> http://xkcd.com/ lol
2008-05-02 00:45 < FastLizard4|Food> http://xkcd.com/224/
2008-05-02 00:45 < FastLizard4|Food> XD
2008-05-02 00:46 < Ral315> http://xkcd.com/376/
2008-05-02 00:46 < Fennec> /c/c
2008-05-02 00:48 < FastLizard4|Food> hehe
2008-05-02 00:56 * FastLizard4|Food is now going to bed, good night!
2008-05-02 00:56 < Charitwo> wait, what..
2008-05-02 00:58 < FastLizard4|Food> Charitwo: ?
2008-05-02 00:58 < d[^_^]b> Charitwo, O_O
2008-05-02 00:59 < Ceiling_Cat> goodnight folks - see you sunday
2008-05-02 00:59 < Charitwo> d[^_^]b: where is the pic of DerHexer upside down from a ceiling title
2008-05-02 00:59 < Ceiling_Cat> please make sure the place doesn't burn down in my absence
2008-05-02 00:59 < FastLizard4|Food> Ceiling_Cat: Don't worry
2008-05-02 01:00 < d[^_^]b> hehe, look in Gurch's logs
2008-05-02 01:00 < Charitwo> talk page logs? im lazy
2008-05-02 01:02 < d[^_^]b> aww deleted
2008-05-02 01:02 < Charitwo> D:
2008-05-02 01:02 < Charitwo> entirely or moved to commons?
2008-05-02 01:03 < d[^_^]b> commons
2008-05-02 01:04 < Charitwo> whar
2008-05-02 01:04 < d[^_^]b> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Ceilingderhexer-en.jpg
2008-05-02 01:06 < d[^_^]b> O_O
2008-05-02 01:10 < c> argh
2008-05-02 01:10 < c> i blame d[^_^]b
2008-05-02 01:12 < amidaniel> Are there any physicists around? :)
2008-05-02 01:12 < d[^_^]b> amidaniel, Einstein died :(
2008-05-02 01:13 * amidaniel will gladly settle for a lesser physicist ;)
2008-05-02 01:13 < enok|walker> liek Planck
2008-05-02 01:15 < enok|walker> Hey [[Max Planck]] links to an article I created forever ago :D
2008-05-02 01:15 < amidaniel> Bahhh ... I misread the problem. No physicist needed for the time being :)
2008-05-02 01:24 < Alkivar> AHAHAHAHA THE MUSIC IN THIS IS PRICELESS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wprr4TTlsY
2008-05-02 01:24 < Alkivar> hillary clinton failing to use a coffee machine at a gas station
2008-05-02 01:27 < enok|walker> man I am so lazy I need to edit this article and I can't
2008-05-02 01:29 < enok|walker> motivation ploz
2008-05-02 01:32 < bbot> enok|walker: I disagree.
2008-05-02 01:33 < enok|walker> ok
2008-05-02 01:33 < enok|walker> heh I just checked Wikipedia for two articles, and they were both already deleted through AFD
2008-05-02 01:35 < enok|walker> wate disagree about plancky?
2008-05-02 01:52 < UnkEdit> hello
2008-05-02 01:52 < UnkEdit> where can i report vandalism?
2008-05-02 01:54 < bbot> UnkEdit: To someone who cares, generally.
2008-05-02 01:55 < UnkEdit> D:
2008-05-02 01:55 < UnkEdit> i read somewhere that there is an irc channel dedicated to it
2008-05-02 01:55 < UnkEdit> idk.
2008-05-02 02:09 < daveh3h> i wanna discuss hehe
2008-05-02 02:10 < Sarahndipity> We only discuss haha here, sorry.
2008-05-02 02:10 < The359> fucking useless Sony piece of shit
2008-05-02 02:11 < Sarahndipity> Preach it!
2008-05-02 02:14 < daveh3h> i would like to discuss h0h0 as well
2008-05-02 02:15 < Sarahndipity> We definitely don't talk about THAT here.
2008-05-02 02:15 < I_am_Keegan> Fucking useless Sony piece of shit, eh
2008-05-02 02:16 < daveh3h> would u like 2 square dance lol
2008-05-02 02:16 < bbot> I've been hearing good things about the Sony Reader
2008-05-02 02:16 < rafaEl113> que es una chepa
2008-05-02 02:17 < Sarahndipity> Spanish has always had some inherent humor to it for me.
2008-05-02 02:17 < Sarahndipity> And I don't know why.
2008-05-02 02:19 < rafaEl113> it happended to me too with inglish
2008-05-02 02:19 < The359> from what I'm seeing of the PS forums
2008-05-02 02:19 < rafaEl113> and i dont really care why
2008-05-02 02:20 < The359> apparently something in Grand Theft Auto IV is causing the Blu-Ray drives of PS3s to fail
2008-05-02 02:20 < rafaEl113> really
2008-05-02 02:20 < rafaEl113> to fail my goD
2008-05-02 02:25 < Sarahndipity> Now, see, if he had said that in Spanish, I would've been chuckling.
2008-05-02 02:42 < enok|walker> how comes I am never here when people are talking
2008-05-02 02:43 < Cyrius> couldn't tell you
2008-05-02 02:43 < enok|walker> ok
2008-05-02 02:46 < StayTuned> hello
2008-05-02 02:47 < privatemusings> hello
2008-05-02 02:47 < StayTuned> :)
2008-05-02 02:54 < StayTuned> hey there
2008-05-02 02:54 < StayTuned> been a while since I've seen Olipro
2008-05-02 02:55 < StayTuned> Olipro - what do you make of the MSFT / Yahoo takeover stuff?
2008-05-02 02:56 < StayTuned> And Yahoo possibly getting Google into it?
2008-05-02 02:57 < StayTuned> May 2, 2008
2008-05-02 02:57 < StayTuned> Microsoft was leaning toward going hostile in its pursuit of Yahoo, with an announcement likely on Friday. Price will be a key factor if Microsoft takes a hostile approach as major Yahoo shareholders have signaled they want a price in the range of $35 to $37 a share. <=== WSJ News
2008-05-02 02:59 < StayTuned> Separately, Yahoo could announce a deal to carry search ads from Google within a week. <=== WSJ News
2008-05-02 03:02 < cimon> that is a big deal, no matter which way it finally turns out.
2008-05-02 03:03 < StayTuned> I think it would be cool to see Google slug it out with MSFT again
2008-05-02 03:05 < StayTuned> This is so funny man - Rice Futures upset the fabric of reality...news at 11
2008-05-02 03:06 < StayTuned> I just did a search on Rice Panic
2008-05-02 03:06 < StayTuned> I can't believe they are relating it to Oil Shortages
2008-05-02 03:07 < StayTuned> in the "Blogozone..."
2008-05-02 03:10 < StayTuned> Wow - someone is listening!
2008-05-02 03:11 < StayTuned> L390 Million for Food Aid
2008-05-02 03:11 < StayTuned> that's actually noble in comparison with Trillions spent on Arms
2008-05-02 03:13 < StayTuned> I wonder how many tanks it will take to deliver the food...
2008-05-02 03:19 < cimon> StayTuned: Personally I would have though M$ woujld have gotten the hint from MSNBC already.
2008-05-02 03:20 < StayTuned> cimon - you mean by trying to swallow an already bloated corp?
2008-05-02 03:21 < StayTuned> yeah - I'd like to see how the Y! Music / URGE thing works out. Sounds like a real mess...
2008-05-02 03:21 < StayTuned> two different sets of DRM Crap to contend with
2008-05-02 03:22 < cimon> Adam Smith had the right idea.
2008-05-02 03:22 < cimon> distribution of labor
2008-05-02 03:23 < cimon> There is a Finnish saying: The cobbler should stay with his last.
2008-05-02 03:23 < StayTuned> If approved by Congress, the funds would become available on October 1, and would bring overall support for global food security to $2.66 billion for 2009.
2008-05-02 03:23 < StayTuned> ---- Reuters
2008-05-02 03:23 < cimon> I don't know if there is an equivalent english proverb.
2008-05-02 03:24 < StayTuned> cimon - Distribution of Labor is a cool idea - in theory
2008-05-02 03:24 < StayTuned> provided that people are interested in the type of Labor presented
2008-05-02 03:26 < StayTuned> that Finnish saying translates I think to The Shoemaker should stay with his last (indicating his creations?)
2008-05-02 03:26 < cimon> indicating staying with what one knows
2008-05-02 03:26 < StayTuned> ah
2008-05-02 03:27 < StayTuned> In my opinion - Yahoo has always been bad business - because it is another layer of dumbing the public down
2008-05-02 03:27 < cimon> okay, stupid question du jour: Does the worlds largest BDSM dungeon/hotel deserve a wikipedia article?
2008-05-02 03:28 < StayTuned> Oh don't even make me go there....
2008-05-02 03:29 < Sarahndipity> Heehee, dungeon/hotel.
2008-05-02 03:29 < StayTuned> I don't even want to know the country of origin of that one.
2008-05-02 03:30 < cimon> it isn't that hard to guesss
2008-05-02 03:30 < AdamBishop> is it Finland?
2008-05-02 03:30 < cimon> nope
2008-05-02 03:30 < cimon> lol
2008-05-02 03:30 < AdamBishop> note that I have no idea what you are referring to
2008-05-02 03:31 < StayTuned> its probably America - and that is so sad to me...what a death of society.
2008-05-02 03:31 < cimon> http://www.catonium.com/
2008-05-02 03:31 < cimon> StayTuned: nope.
2008-05-02 03:32 < cimon> It is in Hamburg, Germany.
2008-05-02 03:32 < cimon> 1200 square meters.
2008-05-02 03:32 < cimon> five storeys
2008-05-02 03:33 < Sarahndipity> Above ground?
2008-05-02 03:33 < StayTuned> well - did someone propose an article to you - or did they just create one?
2008-05-02 03:34 < AdamBishop> the German language should have given it away
2008-05-02 03:35 < cimon> No, I just bought this *cough* magazine, that has all this information about it...
2008-05-02 03:36 < cimon> I am doing an internal debate... If I write the article, is there going to be an instant prod...
2008-05-02 03:36 < Lycurgus> and well there should be
2008-05-02 03:37 < AdamBishop> yeah, that is non-notable
2008-05-02 03:38 < Lady_Aleena> Curiosity has taken hold, what is non-notable?
2008-05-02 03:38 < Lycurgus> http://www.catonium.com/
2008-05-02 03:38 < AdamBishop> YOU!
2008-05-02 03:38 < AdamBishop> and that.
2008-05-02 03:39 < Lady_Aleena> What is catonium about?
2008-05-02 03:39 < AdamBishop> it's an element found only in cats
2008-05-02 03:39 < StayTuned> WikiNews Feeds are actually beating the tar out of conventional news
2008-05-02 03:41 < bbot> http://www.fusor.net/board/getfile.php/fusor_construction/4606/plasma-focus-sharp-small.jpg
2008-05-02 03:42 < Lady_Aleena> Does anyone know how to set up mIRC to autoidentify?
2008-05-02 03:42 < bbot> Man, that is pretty cool.
2008-05-02 03:42 < bbot> Lady_Aleena: You can tell it to send a msg to nickserv on connect
2008-05-02 03:42 < Lady_Aleena> bbot: Where do I do that?
2008-05-02 03:42 < cimon> maybe a section in some existing BDSM related article... not its own article. Would that be reasonable?
2008-05-02 03:42 < bbot> Lady_Aleena: Under "Perform" in the options
2008-05-02 03:43 < bbot> iirc, I haven't used mirc for going on four years now
2008-05-02 03:43 < Lady_Aleena> cimon: What aspect of BDSM are you talking about?
2008-05-02 03:44 < Lady_Aleena> bbot: Thanks!
2008-05-02 03:44 < zocky> the worlds largest BDSM dungeon/hotel
2008-05-02 03:44 < cimon> Lady_Aleena: they apprently just built the worlds largest BDSM dungeon/restaurant/hotel/aparmentos rental establishment in Hamburg Germany
2008-05-02 03:45 < zocky> cimon, i say it needs its own article, but deletionists seem to have the upper hand lately
2008-05-02 03:45 < Lady_Aleena> Is there an article or list about BDSM establishments?
2008-05-02 03:46 < AdamBishop> deletionists never have the upper hand
2008-05-02 03:46 < AdamBishop> there are like 3 million articles
2008-05-02 03:46 < bbot> Fie upon the deletionists!
2008-05-02 03:46 < bbot> Forward the legions!
2008-05-02 03:46 * Lady_Aleena is a mergist/inclusionist.
2008-05-02 03:47 * Lady_Aleena is also a eventualist.
2008-05-02 03:47 * Netsniper is a catoniumist
2008-05-02 03:47 < cimon> zocky: well, it can be spun off, as it grows big enough to stand on its own.
2008-05-02 03:48 < cimon> curiously, I recognize some masonic symbolism in the architecture of the place.
2008-05-02 03:54 < cimon> AdamBishop: Aye, deletionism is like trying to extinguish mosquitoes by clapping them between ones hands.
2008-05-02 03:55 < cimon> ...more of a pastime than anything that will have a real effect.
2008-05-02 03:56 < Mark_Ryan> are you a freemason, cimon?
2008-05-02 03:58 < Mark_Ryan> I'll take that as a yes.
2008-05-02 03:58 < cimon> Mark_Ryan: I think I have answered that. No I am not a member, though my uncle is.
2008-05-02 03:58 < Mark_Ryan> do you know what goes on behind the closed doors?
2008-05-02 03:59 < cimon> they point swords at a point in the floor
2008-05-02 03:59 < Mark_Ryan> sounds rather strange
2008-05-02 03:59 < Mark_Ryan> reminds me of those people who do mediaeval jousting etc
2008-05-02 04:00 < cimon> and i gather one silly ritual is they have somebody elected to be the cairperson of that assemblage, and always come to order when he bangs the gavel, but immediately start clowning around agein, until such time as he again bangs the gavel and they come to order again temporarily...
2008-05-02 04:00 < Mark_Ryan> sounds like Parliament
2008-05-02 04:01 < Mark_Ryan> my dad and grandfather are/were freemasons
2008-05-02 04:01 < Mark_Ryan> they don't go any more
2008-05-02 04:02 < cimon> And I suppose one thing is at the end of the rituals they bang the floor with their feet in unison...
2008-05-02 04:02 < Mark_Ryan> so no naked dancing or slaughter of animals?
2008-05-02 04:03 < Mark_Ryan> how disappointing
2008-05-02 04:03 < cimon> I think you are mean the Bohemian Grove...
2008-05-02 04:03 < cimon> and even there they only sacrifice the effigy of "Care".
2008-05-02 04:07 < Mark_Ryan> that sounds interesting
2008-05-02 04:08 < cimon> hmm. Catonium just had their one year anniversary day before yesterday.
2008-05-02 04:15 < cimon> It appears the closest to an independent article on a SM/dungeon is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_(New_York_nightclub)
2008-05-02 04:16 < cimon> But that seems to have notability well distinct from the BDSM part. In that it is mentioned in television shows with the expectation that the viewership will know it.
2008-05-02 04:18 < Lycurgus> what is the common underlying development disorder/trauma that leads to BDSM?
2008-05-02 04:18 * nsh frowns
2008-05-02 04:18 < Lycurgus> just sick societal attitudes about sex or what?
2008-05-02 04:18 < nsh> that's like asking what the underlying developmental disoder/trauma that leads to taste for pizza is
2008-05-02 04:19 < Lycurgus> well mutatis mutandis it would be "what are the common underlying pernicious attitudes about food/nutrition"
2008-05-02 04:20 < nsh> it's not considered good form to use terms like "mutatis mutandis" while asking stupid questions
2008-05-02 04:20 < Lycurgus> pernicious, unhealthy, etc.
2008-05-02 04:20 < nsh> we try to reserve such terms for intelligent thought-through conversation
2008-05-02 04:20 < nsh> it keeps them unsullied
2008-05-02 04:20 < Lycurgus> i hate you
2008-05-02 04:20 < Lycurgus> is that what you wanted?
2008-05-02 04:21 < nsh> well, hopefully that hate will eventually turn inward
2008-05-02 04:21 < nsh> and there will be some positive results
2008-05-02 04:21 < nsh> nah, i'm just kiddin'. i'm sure you're a super person
2008-05-02 04:22 < KiloRinn> Super duper, no doubt!
2008-05-02 04:22 < Lycurgus> i wasn't, however such feelings are transitory. The enduring part will be the objective assessment of you as a person. I presume you area conservative.
2008-05-02 04:22 < Lycurgus> *are a
2008-05-02 04:23 < AdamBishop> seems pretty liberal if he is defending bdsm
2008-05-02 04:23 < Lycurgus> au contraire
2008-05-02 04:23 < Lycurgus> most bdsm are rightist
2008-05-02 04:23 < Lycurgus> naturlich
2008-05-02 04:24 < Lycurgus> it's of one piece with the character defect that is conservatism
2008-05-02 04:24 < Lycurgus> recidivism, backwardness, anti-social attitudes, etc.
2008-05-02 04:24 < AdamBishop> he doesn't necessarily practise it though
2008-05-02 04:25 < Lady_Aleena> I really should have cleaned up my watchlist on a regular basis.
2008-05-02 04:31 < Lycurgus> after all, rightist political elements (e.g. Nazi paraphenalia) are common BDSM props themes
2008-05-02 04:31 < Lycurgus> surely you see that
2008-05-02 04:32 < Lycurgus> the toleration of such a thing is leftist but it is in essence rightist
2008-05-02 04:33 < Lycurgus> tolarance, humaneness, nuturing: left;intolerance, domination, exploitation: right.
2008-05-02 04:39 < AdamBishop> if I may quote Gary Coleman, "that's a rather glib interpretation"
2008-05-02 04:39 < privatemusings> actually you can't quote gary coleman...
2008-05-02 04:40 < privatemusings> and now I'm afraid I'll have to ask you to leave.......
2008-05-02 04:40 < privatemusings> we had a memo last wekk.
2008-05-02 04:40 < privatemusings> we also now have to call wekks wekks.
2008-05-02 04:41 < privatemusings> two 'e's next to each other are also no longer allowed.
2008-05-02 04:41 < dungodung> indedd
2008-05-02 04:41 < privatemusings> I hope you se what I mean
2008-05-02 04:42 < Lycurgus> not per s
2008-05-02 04:42 < Lycurgus> e
2008-05-02 04:42 < privatemusings> it's part of our new strapline...
2008-05-02 04:42 < privatemusings> which apparently will feature heavily in wikipedia's half time ad in the next superbowl....
2008-05-02 04:43 < privatemusings> "there's no ee in wikipeedia"
2008-05-02 04:43 < Lycurgus> well how bout ee uu as in los estados unidos?
2008-05-02 04:44 < privatemusings> how bout it?
2008-05-02 04:44 < Lycurgus> is it just uu ahora?
2008-05-02 04:46 < privatemusings> it's actually spelt uu ahuura
2008-05-02 04:46 < privatemusings> or maybe uu ahuuruu
2008-05-02 04:46 < Lycurgus> Acknuuledged.
2008-05-02 04:47 < privatemusings> wu must rumumbur thut vuwuls uru uvurutud.
2008-05-02 04:47 * bumm13 would like to buy a vowel
2008-05-02 04:47 < dungodung> we're all out of vowels today, ma'am
2008-05-02 04:48 < bumm13> ma'am? :o
2008-05-02 04:48 < dungodung> may I offer a towel instead?
2008-05-02 04:48 < privatemusings> u'vu gut u fuw us
2008-05-02 04:48 * bumm13 buys a trowel
2008-05-02 04:48 < AdamBishop> w cld stp wrtng vwls, lk rbic
2008-05-02 04:48 < dungodung> rbc, you mean?
2008-05-02 04:49 < AdamBishop> blast! Yes
2008-05-02 04:49 < privatemusings> umpustur!
2008-05-02 04:49 < privatemusings> udum us uvul!
2008-05-02 04:49 < privatemusings> burn hum!
2008-05-02 04:49 < AdamBishop> although they do write long vowels
2008-05-02 04:49 < AdamBishop> and the first A in Arabic is actually a consonant
2008-05-02 04:49 < bumm13> nice
2008-05-02 04:50 < bumm13> Arabic writing seems especially difficult to decipher
2008-05-02 04:50 < AdamBishop> nah, the alphabet is the easy part
2008-05-02 04:50 < bumm13> well, I don't mean the notion behind it ;)
2008-05-02 04:50 < AdamBishop> oh
2008-05-02 04:50 < bumm13> it just all kind of flows uninterrupted
2008-05-02 04:51 < AdamBishop> oh, well, it's still pretty easy to read once you get used to it. The hard part is the bits that are totally bizarre from an English point of view
2008-05-02 04:52 < bumm13> sounds reasonable