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2008-04-20 14:54 < CDN_Bobby> I'm an American, so I guess acting like one would come naturally to me
2008-04-20 14:54 < Wuju> I would like america better if they could actually conquer nations.
2008-04-20 14:54 < Wuju> they failed vietnam, failed china, failed many things
2008-04-20 14:54 < Wuju> now failing iraqi
2008-04-20 14:54 < CDN_Bobby> didn't fail Puerto Rico
2008-04-20 14:55 < Wuju> lol who gives a sh** about puerto rico?
2008-04-20 14:55 < CDN_Bobby> the Puerto Ricans probably do
2008-04-20 14:55 < Monobi> Wuju, lol
2008-04-20 14:55 < Wuju> America should conquer africa seriously
2008-04-20 14:55 < Wuju> and unite it into one african nation
2008-04-20 14:55 < Cyrius> that wouldn't be a stupid idea at all!
2008-04-20 14:55 < Aqwis> after they've killed them all
2008-04-20 14:55 < Monobi> Wuju, they tried that
2008-04-20 14:55 < Aqwis> right?
2008-04-20 14:56 < Monobi> The colonization of Africa
2008-04-20 14:56 < Wuju> so everyone from all ethnic groups can share peaceful purpose and let a civilized nation with freedom.
2008-04-20 14:56 < Wuju> With real freedom , not like iraq crap, oil crap
2008-04-20 14:56 < Monobi> They moved boundaries to include rival groups in the same region
2008-04-20 14:56 < Wuju> "Under All Heaven"
2008-04-20 14:57 < Wuju> Africa has many parts, its not so pleasent now.
2008-04-20 14:57 < Wuju> China has so many ethnic groups. Much much less racist than america
2008-04-20 14:58 < Wuju> #politics is full of trolls now, : )(
2008-04-20 14:58 < Wuju> thats why im chatting elsewhere lolz
2008-04-20 14:58 < Martinp23> ##politics tends to be nicer :)
2008-04-20 14:58 < Phoenix-wiki> ##politics
2008-04-20 14:58 < Wuju> ok
2008-04-20 14:59 < Cyrius> hooray
2008-04-20 15:02 < Lycurgus> hmmm, trolling appears to be self-limiting in a lot of cases; the basic no feeding rule seems to have been confirmed.
2008-04-20 15:02 < Lycurgus> as soon as the fuel is gone, they flame-out.
2008-04-20 15:03 < Isadore> you gotta watch out for pairs still
2008-04-20 15:03 < Isadore> they can feed off each other for quite a while.
2008-04-20 15:04 < Lycurgus> well what you can do is have automated audio moderation;in such a case the initial banjo solo from deliverance would play as the pair got going.
2008-04-20 15:05 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-04-20 15:09 < Axeman> lol nwut
2008-04-20 15:10 < Axeman> Lycurgus: excuse me wtf are you doing
2008-04-20 15:10 < Axeman> okay
2008-04-20 15:10 < Axeman> I am seriously frisky
2008-04-20 15:10 < Axeman> got to do something
2008-04-20 15:10 < Axeman> before my energy releases itself in a vastly destructive way
2008-04-20 15:10 < Axeman> ...
2008-04-20 15:10 * Axeman flees
2008-04-20 15:19 < Lycurgus> Axeman: nuttin. wtf r u doin?
2008-04-20 15:19 * Cream pokes Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-20 15:21 * Cream needs a oversight
2008-04-20 15:22 < Wuju> ## politics are full of idiots
2008-04-20 15:22 < Wuju> and trolls
2008-04-20 15:22 < Cream> true
2008-04-20 15:22 < Ceiling_Cat> CREAM!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-04-20 15:22 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles
2008-04-20 15:22 * Cream cuddles Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-20 15:22 < Wuju> cream, not to be rude, i think of you as semen.
2008-04-20 15:22 < Fennec> Wuju: including yourself?
2008-04-20 15:22 < Axeman> aaargghhhh
2008-04-20 15:23 < Axeman> wait
2008-04-20 15:23 < Axeman> lol wut
2008-04-20 15:23 < Ceiling_Cat> why did you +b him?
2008-04-20 15:23 < nokmar> oh hey it's wuju
2008-04-20 15:23 < Monobi> Wuju, like me right
2008-04-20 15:23 < Axeman> Cyrius to be quite honest, I think you may have gone a bit overboard on that one
2008-04-20 15:23 < nokmar> he's a half-troll
2008-04-20 15:23 < Cyrius> he had been previously trolling
2008-04-20 15:23 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, because they disagree with him
2008-04-20 15:23 < Axeman> oh huzzah
2008-04-20 15:24 < Cyrius> last straw
2008-04-20 15:24 < Axeman> let's label people incontrovertibly based on a few of their actions
2008-04-20 15:24 * Axeman slow clap
2008-04-20 15:24 < Axeman> anyway, I'm pissed enough as it is
2008-04-20 15:24 < Axeman> asstards in my house
2008-04-20 15:24 * Cream cuddles Cyrius
2008-04-20 15:24 < Phoenix-wiki> Axeman, you're a nicampoop cos you like labeling :-p XD
2008-04-20 15:24 < Axeman> disturbing every semblance of order I have
2008-04-20 15:25 < Axeman> it's just...
2008-04-20 15:25 * Phoenix-wiki apologises
2008-04-20 15:25 < Axeman> a week ago I had two toolboxes and they were both organized and everything was great
2008-04-20 15:25 * Cream hugs Phoenix-wiki
2008-04-20 15:25 < Axeman> and I had at least 7 bits for a ratchet driver
2008-04-20 15:25 < Axeman> and now everything's a complete cluster fuck
2008-04-20 15:25 < Axeman> and I have *no* bits
2008-04-20 15:25 * Axeman sigh
2008-04-20 15:25 < quanticle> Monobi: Its not that. Its that wuju doesn't have any other point. Every time he comes in here he starts to raise controversy about the tibet thing.
2008-04-20 15:25 < Phoenix-wiki> what happened to them?
2008-04-20 15:25 * Axeman puts drill bits in a locked box
2008-04-20 15:26 < Axeman> dunno, lol
2008-04-20 15:26 < Axeman> nobody seems to know
2008-04-20 15:26 < Ceiling_Cat> ok, time to go cook
2008-04-20 15:26 < Axeman> tbqh I was partially to blame
2008-04-20 15:26 * Ceiling_Cat ambles off to make some spicy chilli
2008-04-20 15:26 < quanticle> Monobi: If he ever talked about something else, I think Cyrius would be more tolerant.
2008-04-20 15:26 < Axeman> but people moving everything around every 2 weeks for no apparent reason doesn't help
2008-04-20 15:26 < Axeman> it's like...
2008-04-20 15:26 < Axeman> all my tools went from my old house to my new house
2008-04-20 15:26 < Axeman> and then someone decided to put them in the basement
2008-04-20 15:26 < Axeman> all hell broke loose
2008-04-20 15:27 < Axeman> and I can't find jack shit now
2008-04-20 15:27 < Phoenix-wiki> frustrating...
2008-04-20 15:27 < quanticle> Axeman: Yeah. That sucks.
2008-04-20 15:27 < Axeman> absolutely the *last* time I let Mike borrow anything of mine relating to woodworking
2008-04-20 15:27 < Axeman> I had this brand-new set of drillbits
2008-04-20 15:27 < Axeman> he says "HEY CAN I USE THEM OMGZ"
2008-04-20 15:27 < Axeman> so I'm like "sure, whatever"
2008-04-20 15:28 < Axeman> today I go to use the drill, the set is missing 5 bits
2008-04-20 15:28 < Axeman> and the rest are in no particular order
2008-04-20 15:28 < Cream> i <3 shopping
2008-04-20 15:28 < Axeman> shoved in upside-down and whatnot
2008-04-20 15:28 < Phoenix-wiki> Cream you just spammed that into 3 chanels lol XD
2008-04-20 15:28 < Axeman> seriously wtf
2008-04-20 15:28 < Axeman> is it that hard to put bits in the way you foud then?
2008-04-20 15:28 < Axeman> *found them
2008-04-20 15:28 < Cream> lulz <3
2008-04-20 15:28 < Axeman> and I'm not El Perfecto myself
2008-04-20 15:29 < Axeman> I have a hard enough time keeping track of shit without 2 people making it worse
2008-04-20 15:29 < Axeman> </rant>
2008-04-20 15:31 < Monobi> Axeman, o hai flame
2008-04-20 15:32 < Cream> omigosh, at the pet store
2008-04-20 15:32 < Cream> i saw the cutest dog ever
2008-04-20 15:32 < Phoenix-wiki> cool
2008-04-20 15:32 < Phoenix-wiki> what did it look like?
2008-04-20 15:33 < Cream> a baby pinscher dog
2008-04-20 15:34 < libertaire> as a preface, this is only in the name of free speech...but
2008-04-20 15:34 < libertaire> cream, not to be rude, i think of you as semen. Still if you want to ban me over a name that sounds like sperm. I would love it
2008-04-20 15:34 < Cream> !op
2008-04-20 15:35 < Monobi> Cream, ?
2008-04-20 15:35 < wimt_away> libertaire, evading bans is a quick way to lose a cloak.
2008-04-20 15:35 < Monobi> :O
2008-04-20 15:35 < Cream> trust me
2008-04-20 15:35 < Cream> it is ;)
2008-04-20 15:35 < Martinp23> hehe
2008-04-20 15:35 < Monobi> Now use Mibbits
2008-04-20 15:35 < Monobi> haha
2008-04-20 15:36 < Thehelpfulone2> Monobi: :|
2008-04-20 15:36 < Cyrius> still think I was too hasty the first time?
2008-04-20 15:44 < quanticle> Heh. I guess he was a troll after all.
2008-04-20 15:47 * denelson83 is back: gone 08h35m42s
2008-04-20 15:50 < bumm13> zomg denelson83!
2008-04-20 15:55 < quanticle> Heh. Welcome back denelson83
2008-04-20 16:21 < enok|walker> Hmm I found another article created as a school project :/
2008-04-20 16:21 < enok|walker> [[Pushing the Bear]] at least that's what the edit summary suggests
2008-04-20 16:24 < Axeman> AASARGGhsjgf
2008-04-20 16:24 < Axeman> People are fucking morons.
2008-04-20 16:24 < enok|walker> well duh
2008-04-20 16:24 < Aqwis> what has People done now?
2008-04-20 16:25 < White_Cat> Aqwis this is what you get
2008-04-20 16:25 < White_Cat> normal
2008-04-20 16:25 < White_Cat> they electect "you" as the person of the year
2008-04-20 16:27 < Aqwis> heh
2008-04-20 16:27 < quanticle> Axeman: Still pissed over the drill bits?
2008-04-20 16:29 < Lucifer_Cat> whats the whole 420 thing?
2008-04-20 16:29 * The359 would think we have an article on it
2008-04-20 16:30 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Hitler's Birthday?
2008-04-20 16:30 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28cannabis_culture%29
2008-04-20 16:30 < Lucifer_Cat> and whats the whole deal about getting high?
2008-04-20 16:30 < Lucifer_Cat> ahh see The359 has something relevant
2008-04-20 16:31 < The359> basically some potheads decided to meet somewhere at 4:20
2008-04-20 16:31 < lunakeet> Hello
2008-04-20 16:31 < Lucifer_Cat> idk how it is here, but in India, the number 420 is associated with tricksters, scammers and con-men
2008-04-20 16:31 < The359> and somehow it spread to other potheads
2008-04-20 16:31 < The359> and they somehow managed to ACTUALLY REMEMBER THE NUMBER
2008-04-20 16:31 < Lucifer_Cat> hey keet
2008-04-20 16:31 < Lucifer_Cat> lol@ The359
2008-04-20 16:31 < The359> God damn hippies!
2008-04-20 16:33 < Lucifer_Cat> I HATE HIPPIES!!!!
2008-04-20 16:35 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: i like how the wiki article on hitler has no mention of him being a horrible mass murder, and scum in general.
2008-04-20 16:35 < Lucifer_Cat> must have been written by a holoucast denier
2008-04-20 16:35 < Arwen> Hitler was a great man
2008-04-20 16:35 < Arwen> he saved the German economy
2008-04-20 16:35 < Lucifer_Cat> and expanded by neo-nazis
2008-04-20 16:36 < Lucifer_Cat> Arwen: yeah, very true. also, Mussolini made trains run on thyme.
2008-04-20 16:36 < Cyrius> '...does such an action really need a great big "AND PS IT WAS BAD!"?'
2008-04-20 16:37 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Are you sure it'd be in line with NPOV to cast moral judgements on Hitler? Also, like Cyrius said, don't Hitler's actions speak for themselves?
2008-04-20 16:41 < Working_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: gtfo
2008-04-20 16:41 < Working_Cat> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1811809
2008-04-20 16:43 < Working_Cat> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1778958
2008-04-20 16:43 < Monobi> :O
2008-04-20 16:45 < Working_Cat> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1747610
2008-04-20 16:45 < Working_Cat> last one
2008-04-20 16:47 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-04-20 16:47 < Ceiling_Cat> chilli sauce is cooking on the stove
2008-04-20 16:47 < Ceiling_Cat> the rice is in the oven
2008-04-20 16:47 < Ceiling_Cat> Mmmmm mmmm good
2008-04-20 16:48 < quanticle> Sounds yummy.
2008-04-20 16:50 < Working_Cat> and the CAT, is /in/ the BAG!!
2008-04-20 16:50 * Working_Cat tears out of the bag and leaps on Ceiling_Cat ... in slo-mo ofcourse
2008-04-20 16:50 < Working_Cat> whats the command to kill a goddamn stubborn nick?
2008-04-20 16:51 * Ceiling_Cat fuggles Working_Cat
2008-04-20 16:52 * Working_Cat adds Sabrina Lloyd to his list of tappable milfs
2008-04-20 16:53 < Working_Cat> i know its redundant, but atleast it sounds cool
2008-04-20 16:53 < Working_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: DIE goddamnit!
2008-04-20 17:05 < Working_Cat> heh, gone
2008-04-20 17:06 < Lucifer_Cat> yay
2008-04-20 17:08 < falkenjeff> hay guys
2008-04-20 17:09 < falkenjeff> anyone here know Channel_R?
2008-04-20 17:09 < Monobi> No
2008-04-20 17:10 < falkenjeff> what about TheProf07
2008-04-20 17:10 < falkenjeff> ?
2008-04-20 17:11 < FastLizard4> falkenjeff: What are you talking about?
2008-04-20 17:16 < Lucifer_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: i sense a disturbance in the force.
2008-04-20 17:17 < falkenjeff> user pages
2008-04-20 17:19 < falkenjeff> enterprise cat isnt even here Lucifer_Cat
2008-04-20 17:20 < Lycurgus> was there a clinton-obama debate yesterday?
2008-04-20 17:20 < Ceiling_Cat> this channel needs more pussy
2008-04-20 17:20 < Ceiling_Cat> MAOR KATZ!
2008-04-20 17:20 * Lucifer_Cat shaves himself pre-emptively
2008-04-20 17:20 * Ceiling_Cat snickers
2008-04-20 17:21 < Lucifer_Cat> falkenjeff: his spirit is here. Much like obi wan
2008-04-20 17:22 < Lucifer_Cat> http://darkmonkey.org.uk/4/1/spank.jpg <-------SFL/SFW
2008-04-20 17:22 < Ceiling_Cat> SFL?
2008-04-20 17:22 < Lycurgus> library
2008-04-20 17:22 < Ceiling_Cat> ah
2008-04-20 17:23 < Lycurgus> though I've no idea where in the world at this momemnt people would tend to be at either
2008-04-20 17:23 * FastLizard4 's watchlist scares himself
2008-04-20 17:23 < falkenjeff> i wonder if my entire IP range is blocked
2008-04-20 17:23 < Ceiling_Cat> [[used condom fetish]]? [[Penis fencing]]? [[Bugchasing]]?
2008-04-20 17:23 < falkenjeff> i havent tried my 209s yet
2008-04-20 17:23 * Chetblong got pinged
2008-04-20 17:24 * Lucifer_Cat wonders if it was cuz of [[penis fencing]] or [[used condom fetish]]
2008-04-20 17:24 < yao_ziyuan> penis fencing
2008-04-20 17:24 < Chetblong> the penis part
2008-04-20 17:24 < Lucifer_Cat> Lycurgus: at universities and places which are about to lay-off
2008-04-20 17:24 < yao_ziyuan> i saw this metaphor before
2008-04-20 17:24 < Lucifer_Cat> O.o
2008-04-20 17:24 * Chetblong slaps yao_ziyuan and Lucifer_Cat and Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-20 17:25 < Chetblong> that's for teh pinging
2008-04-20 17:25 < Chetblong> XD
2008-04-20 17:25 < Lycurgus> yes, I forgot uni's in session would be open till midnite
2008-04-20 17:25 < Lycurgus> i.e. their libraries
2008-04-20 17:25 * Ceiling_Cat wonders if chetblong has set his IRC client to beep every time someone talks about penis fencing
2008-04-20 17:26 < Ceiling_Cat> or maybe it was used condom fetish or bugchasing that caused him to ping
2008-04-20 17:26 < Ceiling_Cat> which one was it?
2008-04-20 17:26 < Lycurgus> issat in the Frottage category yet?
2008-04-20 17:26 < Ceiling_Cat> Lycurgus - penis fencing != frottage
2008-04-20 17:26 * Chetblong slaps Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-20 17:26 < Ceiling_Cat> (read the article)
2008-04-20 17:27 < Lycurgus> no
2008-04-20 17:27 < Krimpet> I suppose penis fencing is an all-male sport. sexism, I say! <_<
2008-04-20 17:27 < Ceiling_Cat> Krimpet - uh, it's a "sport" engaged in by hermaphrodites
2008-04-20 17:27 < Ceiling_Cat> (hermaphrodictic flatworms, to be precise)
2008-04-20 17:27 * yao_ziyuan is peeking the demography of people in this room
2008-04-20 17:27 < Ceiling_Cat> to see which one gets pregnant
2008-04-20 17:28 < Ceiling_Cat> so don't feel left out ;)
2008-04-20 17:28 < falkenjeff> so, i have a question
2008-04-20 17:28 < Krimpet> Ceiling_Cat, bonobos too
2008-04-20 17:28 < Lucifer_Cat> Krimpet: im sure you can play yoo
2008-04-20 17:28 < Lucifer_Cat> *too
2008-04-20 17:28 < falkenjeff> if i am an IP
2008-04-20 17:28 < falkenjeff> and i have a user talk page
2008-04-20 17:28 < falkenjeff> and i completely clear it
2008-04-20 17:28 < falkenjeff> why is that vandalism?
2008-04-20 17:28 < FastLizard4> falkenjeff: Because it clears the list of warnings
2008-04-20 17:28 < falkenjeff> but it is MY user talk page
2008-04-20 17:29 < falkenjeff> it even says I am free to edit it
2008-04-20 17:29 < FastLizard4> falkenjeff: but it still clears the list of warnings you have received
2008-04-20 17:29 < Krimpet> falkenjeff, how old are the warnings?
2008-04-20 17:29 < falkenjeff> I dunno, it was at my university
2008-04-20 17:29 < FastLizard4> If you want to clear it, it is *recommended* that you archive it instead (note the usage of recommended)
2008-04-20 17:29 < falkenjeff> some were new, some were months old
2008-04-20 17:29 < Krimpet> falkenjeff: did you explain anywhere what you were doing?
2008-04-20 17:30 < Krimpet> and/or leave a shared-IP template on 'em?
2008-04-20 17:30 < falkenjeff> no, but i did lose editing rights for the IP completely
2008-04-20 17:30 < falkenjeff> because of it
2008-04-20 17:30 * yao_ziyuan is catching non-native english speakers now
2008-04-20 17:31 < yao_ziyuan> by examining their english usage
2008-04-20 17:31 < falkenjeff> are you talking about me?
2008-04-20 17:31 < falkenjeff> Because I only speak English
2008-04-20 17:31 < falkenjeff> nothing else
2008-04-20 17:31 < bumm13> IP users are not "real" users as far as clearing comments from IP talk pages
2008-04-20 17:31 < Lucifer_Cat> yao_ziyuan: whaddya mean non-native
2008-04-20 17:31 < bumm13> *pages is concerned
2008-04-20 17:32 < falkenjeff> they should specify that then
2008-04-20 17:32 < Lucifer_Cat> or should you be rather looking for people who do not /think/ in english
2008-04-20 17:32 < falkenjeff> English is the SI language of science
2008-04-20 17:32 < yao_ziyuan> Lucifer_Cat: how is english logic different from other logics?
2008-04-20 17:32 < falkenjeff> therefore everyone thinks in English
2008-04-20 17:32 * Lucifer_Cat smacjs yao_ziyuan
2008-04-20 17:33 * falkenjeff slaps yao_ziyuan around a bit with a large trout
2008-04-20 17:33 < Lucifer_Cat> not logic, doofus ;)
2008-04-20 17:33 < yao_ziyuan> i'm starting to guess maybe this trout thing has something to do with the penguin
2008-04-20 17:33 < Lucifer_Cat> falkenjeff: no unwarranted violence unless you are a '_Cat'
2008-04-20 17:34 < yao_ziyuan> in tux games such as TuxKart, there are trouts that slow down a racer
2008-04-20 17:34 < falkenjeff> the trout is in the MIRC irc client
2008-04-20 17:34 < Lucifer_Cat> yao_ziyuan: when you see something, or think about something, or talk to yourself, you tend to do it in a language
2008-04-20 17:34 * falkenjeff slaps Lucifer_Cat around a bit with a large trout
2008-04-20 17:35 < yao_ziyuan> Lucifer_Cat: the subconscious language comes first, which is above all natural languages
2008-04-20 17:35 * Lucifer_Cat kicks falkenjeff in the nuts. consider yourself warned.
2008-04-20 17:35 < bumm13> uh, let's be civil please, thanks
2008-04-20 17:35 < Lucifer_Cat> yao_ziyuan: yes at the base. what is one step over it.
2008-04-20 17:36 < yao_ziyuan> in looking at a geometry problem,
2008-04-20 17:36 < Lucifer_Cat> when you are trying to solve a problem that has not much to do with maths or some terms which are language specific
2008-04-20 17:36 < yao_ziyuan> we don't use language to observe it
2008-04-20 17:36 < Monobi> hallo, truth ( wahrheit )
2008-04-20 17:36 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, got that in before ya :D
2008-04-20 17:37 < wahrheit> hey Monobi :)
2008-04-20 17:37 < Lucifer_Cat> yao_ziyuan: try to think of non mathematical or non technology things.
2008-04-20 17:37 < yao_ziyuan> language is just for recording and replaying conscious
2008-04-20 17:37 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah. people tend to prefer one language to do that
2008-04-20 17:38 < Lucifer_Cat> thats the language people 'think' in
2008-04-20 17:38 < falkenjeff> will i really get +b because im not a cat?
2008-04-20 17:38 * falkenjeff slaps Lucifer_Cat around a bit with a large trout
2008-04-20 17:39 < Lucifer_Cat> no, but you will soon get it if you keep this behavior up.
2008-04-20 17:39 < yao_ziyuan> but language/logic is damn useful in reasoning
2008-04-20 17:39 < falkenjeff> yao_ziyuan
2008-04-20 17:39 < gwern> a language is low-level when it requires you to pay attention to useless things...
2008-04-20 17:39 < falkenjeff> some philosophers see it the other way
2008-04-20 17:39 < falkenjeff> Some philosophers think that language holds us back when it comes to our understanding of things
2008-04-20 17:40 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: we are talking natural languages here.
2008-04-20 17:40 < falkenjeff> because once we need a word to describe a phenomenon, we can't understand that phenomonon without that word
2008-04-20 17:40 < falkenjeff> and it also means that the word must play back in our head when we think of such a phenomonon
2008-04-20 17:41 < falkenjeff> instead of just thinking of the phenomonon itself
2008-04-20 17:41 < falkenjeff> slowing down mental thought
2008-04-20 17:41 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: I believe it is applicable to natural languages as well
2008-04-20 17:42 < falkenjeff> the only reason language is useful is because we need to communicate with others
2008-04-20 17:42 < falkenjeff> if you were a hermit born up in the mountains, with no human contact, your brain would run much more efficiently without a language
2008-04-20 17:42 < gwern> grammatical gender being a good example
2008-04-20 17:42 < yao_ziyuan> animals...
2008-04-20 17:42 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: agreed.
2008-04-20 17:42 < falkenjeff> also, penis, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/penis
2008-04-20 17:43 < Lucifer_Cat> yao_ziyuan: not a good thing to call hermits animals :P
2008-04-20 17:43 < mavhc> don't worry, they're not going to hear about it
2008-04-20 17:43 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-04-20 17:43 < yao_ziyuan> no i refer to animals, literally
2008-04-20 17:43 < gwern> let's blame the mimes. they won't talk
2008-04-20 17:43 < yao_ziyuan> animals don't use language
2008-04-20 17:43 < mavhc> when I grow up I want to be king of the hermits
2008-04-20 17:43 < Lucifer_Cat> just like the deaf wont hear us calling them communists?
2008-04-20 17:44 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: don't be so sure. they can lipread
2008-04-20 17:44 * Lucifer_Cat adds 'behind their backs' behind the back of his sentence
2008-04-20 17:46 < Lucifer_Cat> yao_ziyuan: what falkenjeff says is true, but if theres no language and hence no communication, every single human ever born will simply re-invent the wheel, bootstrapping up from the primal basics
2008-04-20 17:47 * falkenjeff slaps Lucifer_Cat around a bit with a large trout
2008-04-20 17:47 < Lucifer_Cat> all of human progress is possible only because of the reuse of knowledge, because we often learn in one semester as facts, what people spent their whole life researching.
2008-04-20 17:47 < Lucifer_Cat> falkenjeff: the reason for that fishy flash?
2008-04-20 17:47 < falkenjeff> because it is a simple right click
2008-04-20 17:48 < falkenjeff> right click, slap
2008-04-20 17:48 < falkenjeff> bbl study
2008-04-20 17:48 < lunakeet> bye falkenjeff
2008-04-20 17:49 < lunakeet> bye nazgjunk
2008-04-20 17:49 < Lucifer_Cat> meh, /op is broken
2008-04-20 17:49 < lunakeet> what're everyone's scores on the wikipediaholic test?
2008-04-20 17:49 < lunakeet> mine is 15__
2008-04-20 17:50 < Mm40> 3668 or something
2008-04-20 17:50 < lunakeet> i was 15th highest
2008-04-20 17:50 < lunakeet> now i'm in the 10,000s
2008-04-20 17:50 < lunakeet> because i translated something into klingon
2008-04-20 17:51 < lunakeet> I can just sense everyone backing away slowly.
2008-04-20 17:51 < lunakeet> Some people have been on literally all day.
2008-04-20 17:52 < lunakeet> I'm talking to myself.
2008-04-20 17:52 < lunakeet> I;m going to make a TARDIS.
2008-04-20 17:52 < lunakeet> :) 8)
2008-04-20 17:52 < lunakeet> 8) TARDIS
2008-04-20 17:52 < lunakeet> :)
2008-04-20 17:52 < lunakeet> :)
2008-04-20 17:52 < lunakeet> :) :)
2008-04-20 17:53 < lunakeet> Hey? Anyone here?
2008-04-20 17:53 < lunakeet> Just say yes.
2008-04-20 17:53 < lunakeet> Or no.
2008-04-20 17:53 < Lucifer_Cat> no
2008-04-20 17:53 < Mm40> no
2008-04-20 17:53 < lunakeet> But if you're here, you can't say no else you wouldn't be here and you can't ''not'' be here else you wouldn't be talking -- it's a paradox!
2008-04-20 17:54 < lunakeet> Paradoxes hurt my brain.
2008-04-20 17:54 < lunakeet> Hi Pichu0102. Welcome to the Wikipedia IRC chat room.
2008-04-20 17:54 < lunakeet> Bye lagann
2008-04-20 17:55 < lunakeet> Everyone press cntl+V or apple+V and see what you get.
2008-04-20 17:55 < lunakeet> Every conversation with you just goes mental.. There's no one else I can talk to. I've seen all that stuff up there, the size of it, and I can't say a word. Aliens and Spaceships and things and... I'm the only person on planet Earth who knows they exist...
2008-04-20 17:55 < Lucifer_Cat> lunakeet: are you saying bye *after* they quit?
2008-04-20 17:55 < lunakeet> bye francogg
2008-04-20 17:55 < lunakeet> Yes.
2008-04-20 17:55 < Lucifer_Cat> http://darkmonkey.org.uk/4/1/spank.jpg
2008-04-20 17:55 < lunakeet> It's redundant and pointless, I know.
2008-04-20 17:55 < Fennec> control-V? I get a V in inverse video ... V
2008-04-20 17:55 < lunakeet> Um...OK, weird pic..
2008-04-20 17:55 < Lucifer_Cat> lunakeet: you are lunateek
2008-04-20 17:55 < Fennec> it even turns on inverse video
2008-04-20 17:56 < lunakeet> Oh, cool!
2008-04-20 17:56 < lunakeet> Actually teekanul.
2008-04-20 17:56 * Fennec idly wonders whether it's filtered out with the colors
2008-04-20 17:56 < lunakeet> probably has
2008-04-20 17:56 < Lucifer_Cat> foxen
2008-04-20 17:56 < lunakeet> hi bennity2
2008-04-20 17:56 * Fennec
2008-04-20 17:56 < lunakeet> hi dungodung
2008-04-20 17:57 < dungodung> hi lunakeet :)
2008-04-20 17:57 < lunakeet> Did you all know there's an IRC buddy barnstar?
2008-04-20 17:57 < Fennec> stab it
2008-04-20 17:57 < Cyrius> with fire
2008-04-20 17:57 < lunakeet> OK.
2008-04-20 17:57 < Fennec> stab it with a hammer until it drowns
2008-04-20 17:57 < lunakeet> BWL
2008-04-20 17:57 * Lucifer_Cat stabs Fennec with fire
2008-04-20 17:58 < lunakeet> Oh no! Fennec! Are you OK?
2008-04-20 17:59 < lunakeet> welcome back FroncoGG
2008-04-20 17:59 < lunakeet> FrancoGG. sorry.
2008-04-20 17:59 < lunakeet> Be right back, have to feed my parakeet Luna.
2008-04-20 17:59 < lunakeet> The inspiration for my username.
2008-04-20 18:00 < Lucifer_Cat> it would be sweet if i werent against caging birds which would be hunted down and devoured brutally if they were let out.
2008-04-20 18:00 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-20 18:01 < White_Cat> so what if someone writes a book titled: "Wikipedia:The free encyclopedia"
2008-04-20 18:01 < White_Cat> how would we create an article for it?
2008-04-20 18:01 < Cream> easy
2008-04-20 18:01 < Cream> make it disambig
2008-04-20 18:01 < Cream> then (book)
2008-04-20 18:01 < White_Cat> in project namespace?
2008-04-20 18:02 < Fennec> technical limitation article name tag
2008-04-20 18:02 < Fennec> + redirect in project namespace
2008-04-20 18:02 < White_Cat> Fennec what if the book is titled "Wikipedia:Neutral point of view"
2008-04-20 18:02 < White_Cat> say the book is covering our principles
2008-04-20 18:02 < Fennec> we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
2008-04-20 18:03 < Cream> I'll wathc the fucking hockey game tonight
2008-04-20 18:03 < White_Cat> Fennec well
2008-04-20 18:03 < Lucifer_Cat> you guys almost tempt me to write something like that
2008-04-20 18:03 < White_Cat> what if the book is "User:Jimmy Wales" :D
2008-04-20 18:03 < Fennec> yeah, good luck with the notability on that :P
2008-04-20 18:03 < White_Cat> Fennec assume it is notable
2008-04-20 18:04 < Fennec> let's not. >.>
2008-04-20 18:04 < Aqwis> i'll write an autobiography in 10 years called "User:Aqwis"
2008-04-20 18:04 < Aqwis> srsly
2008-04-20 18:04 < Aqwis> that's a great title
2008-04-20 18:08 < White_Cat> hmm
2008-04-20 18:08 < White_Cat> how about
2008-04-20 18:08 < White_Cat> "Mediawiki:Common.css"
2008-04-20 18:09 < White_Cat> A book titled "Special:Allpages"
2008-04-20 18:09 < White_Cat> :D
2008-04-20 18:10 < FastLizard4> White_Cat: What about "Main Page"?
2008-04-20 18:10 < White_Cat> you can easily move the main page
2008-04-20 18:12 < Fennec> FastLizard4: [[Main Page (book)]]
2008-04-20 18:12 < FastLizard4> heh
2008-04-20 18:15 < White_Cat> or a book titled
2008-04-20 18:15 < White_Cat> Commons:The free image repository
2008-04-20 18:16 < White_Cat> it would interwii link to a gallery on commons titled The free image repository
2008-04-20 18:19 < Cyrius> White_Cat: Commons:Coffee table book
2008-04-20 18:21 < Krimpet> about coffee tables?
2008-04-20 18:21 < gwern> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiquote/en/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf <-- I love Baghdad Bob
2008-04-20 18:21 < gwern> *
2008-04-20 18:21 < gwern> o
2008-04-20 18:21 < gwern> * "I speak better English than this villain Bush."
2008-04-20 18:21 < gwern> "I can say, and I am responsible for what I am saying, that they have started to commit suicide under the walls of Baghdad. We will encourage them to commit more suicides quickly."
2008-04-20 18:22 < Krimpet> hehe, I remember his 15 minutes of fame
2008-04-20 18:22 < Duesentrieb> what, comical ali?
2008-04-20 18:22 < mavhc> I already did the thing about him still doing that, but now he works for the bush administration
2008-04-20 18:22 < gwern> "Our initial assessment is that they will all die."
2008-04-20 18:23 < nsh> Krimpet
2008-04-20 18:24 < Krimpet> pong
2008-04-20 18:24 < White_Cat> Good morning, you have been selected as our next victim for a suicide attack. Call now and we will deliver death all the way to your door for a bargin price of $27.95
2008-04-20 18:24 < nsh> Krimpet, can you try and liberate some learning for me?
2008-04-20 18:24 < gwern> "The midget Bush and that Rumsfield deserve only to be beaten with shoes by freedom-loving people everywhere." <-- no! not shoes!
2008-04-20 18:24 < nsh> from the villainous-clutches of elsevier/PEP-web
2008-04-20 18:25 < mavhc> in soviet russia shoes beat you
2008-04-20 18:25 < gwern> "Those Iraqi fighters are slapping those gangsters on the face, and then when they flee, they will kick their backsides." if they return, we shall mock them a second time
2008-04-20 18:25 < quanticle> White_Cat: But how much of that money goes to the suicide bomber?
2008-04-20 18:25 < White_Cat> quanticle all of it
2008-04-20 18:25 < Krimpet> nsh: sorry, not on the network atm :/
2008-04-20 18:25 < mavhc> new rule, if you vote for a guy who turns out to be an idiot you don't get to vote again
2008-04-20 18:25 < nsh> Krimpet, ah, no worries
2008-04-20 18:26 < White_Cat> they get to spend it before going to work
2008-04-20 18:26 < White_Cat> its the shipping fee
2008-04-20 18:26 * nsh goes back to trying to collapse visual space
2008-04-20 18:26 < gwern> "In an age of spin, al-Sahaf offers feeling and authenticity. His message is consistent -- unshakeable, in fact, no matter the evidence -- but he commands daily attention by his on-the-spot, invective-rich variations on the theme. His lunatic counterfactual art is more appealing than the banal awfulness of the Reliable Sources. He is a Method actor in a production that will close in a couple of days. He stands superior to truth." - ...
2008-04-20 18:26 < quanticle> gwern: But are those Iraqi gangsters saying that Bush's mother smells like elderberries?
2008-04-20 18:26 < gwern> ... Jean-Pierre McGarrigle from Welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com
2008-04-20 18:26 < gwern> nsh: may I suggest LSD?
2008-04-20 18:26 < gwern> quanticle: silly. how would iraqis know what elderberries smell like?
2008-04-20 18:26 < nsh> gwern, i'd rather you offered it
2008-04-20 18:27 < quanticle> gwern: Camel dung, then...
2008-04-20 18:27 < nsh> nah, i'm going for endogenous neurotransmittor flood
2008-04-20 18:27 < gwern> nsh: no way hombre; my private stash is for me!
2008-04-20 18:27 < nsh> fairy fluff
2008-04-20 18:27 < quanticle> mavhc: I don't agree with that... everybody has the right to make one bad electoral decision.
2008-04-20 18:27 < White_Cat> "They are trapped in Umm Qasr. They are trapped near Basra. They are trapped near Nasiriyah. They are trapped near Najaf. They are trapped everywhere."
2008-04-20 18:27 < White_Cat> assesment is correct
2008-04-20 18:28 < White_Cat> US troops are trapped everywhere
2008-04-20 18:28 < Monobi> quanticle, what do you make of Obama's bitter comments?
2008-04-20 18:28 < nsh> fffs
2008-04-20 18:28 < nsh> listen
2008-04-20 18:28 < nsh> america
2008-04-20 18:28 < nsh> there are fucking issues
2008-04-20 18:29 < nsh> would you all please grow the fuck up and stop talking about stupid irrelevancies
2008-04-20 18:29 < Monobi> what are you talking about
2008-04-20 18:29 < mavhc> issues are hard</barbie>
2008-04-20 18:29 < gwern> 'fffs'? for 'fucking fuck's sake'?
2008-04-20 18:29 * nsh nods
2008-04-20 18:29 < Monobi> nsh, what's the issues, then
2008-04-20 18:30 < quanticle> Monobi: Meh. I think they're overblown. I'm sure that other politicians in the past have made comments that are as bad or worse, but, without the Internet echo chamber magnifying every word and action, those comments were never emphasized or made an issue of.
2008-04-20 18:30 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: who did you vote for :P
2008-04-20 18:30 < gwern> Monobi: how about the economic stagnation of lower and middle-class americans? that's a major issue
2008-04-20 18:30 < Lucifer_Cat> mavhc: did you just call Hillary 'barbie'??
2008-04-20 18:30 < mavhc> no, all americans
2008-04-20 18:30 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I haven't voted yet. The las time I voted was for the Democrats in the 2006 general election.
2008-04-20 18:31 < Monobi> gwern, that's not an issue anyone can deal with. Those people have to deal with it. The rich keep doing what makes them rich. The poor keep doing what makes them poor.
2008-04-20 18:31 < Monobi> quanticle, thank you for the 3.50 gas prices
2008-04-20 18:31 < White_Cat> Monobi I think next us pres will be obama
2008-04-20 18:31 < White_Cat> republicans are unloved
2008-04-20 18:31 < Lucifer_Cat> Monobi: who did you vote for?
2008-04-20 18:31 < quanticle> Monobi: How about the issue of America being the laggard among developing nations in regards to global warming.
2008-04-20 18:31 < White_Cat> and hillary cannot win statisticaly
2008-04-20 18:31 < Monobi> quanticle, non-issue.
2008-04-20 18:31 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: shhh i was gonna blow that in his face
2008-04-20 18:32 < Lucifer_Cat> you stole my thunder
2008-04-20 18:32 < Luna-San> I'm just happy because quanticle said America is a lager.
2008-04-20 18:32 < gwern> Monobi: so it's the poors' fault they are poor?
2008-04-20 18:32 < Monobi> Lucifer_Cat, ja, no one.
2008-04-20 18:32 < mavhc> doesn't matter if we fuck up this earth, we have a spare, right?
2008-04-20 18:32 < Monobi> gwern, indeed.
2008-04-20 18:32 < quanticle> Monobi: You do realize that the rest of the world gets by just fine with nearly 5 to 6 dollars per gallon gas.
2008-04-20 18:32 < Krimpet> White_Cat: the PA race should be interesting though
2008-04-20 18:32 < White_Cat> PA?
2008-04-20 18:32 < Monobi> Krimpet, Hillary will win.
2008-04-20 18:32 < Krimpet> the Pennsylvania primary
2008-04-20 18:32 < Monobi> Mhmm
2008-04-20 18:32 < White_Cat> Unless hillary gets raped by obama I do not believe she has much of a choice
2008-04-20 18:32 < mavhc> $8 here, but weak dollar
2008-04-20 18:32 < White_Cat> she may only extend the inevitable
2008-04-20 18:33 < Ceiling_Cat> Hillary will win in PA, but it's all for naught
2008-04-20 18:33 < mavhc> do quoted USA gas prices include sales tax?
2008-04-20 18:33 < Krimpet> Monobi: yes, she has surprisingly high support in PA
2008-04-20 18:33 < Ceiling_Cat> it's more-or-less mathematically impossible for her to win
2008-04-20 18:33 < quanticle> Krimpet: I think Hillary will win, but I also think that the win will be too little, too late.
2008-04-20 18:33 < White_Cat> for the past 20 freaking years we either had a bush or clinton in office
2008-04-20 18:33 < Monobi> Krimpet, she would have the support of Rush if you could vote for the opposing party
2008-04-20 18:33 < White_Cat> that is why I do NOT want to see another clinton
2008-04-20 18:33 < Monobi> White_Cat, I don't want to see Obama much either
2008-04-20 18:33 < Monobi> Actually, at all.
2008-04-20 18:33 < White_Cat> Monobi I can easily sever your eyes for you
2008-04-20 18:33 < Ceiling_Cat> unless pics surface of Obama sitting in a cave plotting the 9/11 attacks while wearing an "I <heart> Bin Laden", he cannot lose this primary
2008-04-20 18:34 < Luna-San> mavhc: I believe the quoted price includes all taxes, but maybe I should check a receipt to be sure. >.>
2008-04-20 18:34 < Ceiling_Cat> T-shirt*
2008-04-20 18:34 < White_Cat> Ceiling_Cat how about
2008-04-20 18:34 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: hope ure right.
2008-04-20 18:34 < White_Cat> pics surface of Obama sitting in a cave plotting the 9/11 attacks while wearing an "I <heart> Bin Laden" while banging hillary?
2008-04-20 18:34 < Krimpet> White_Cat, that's how I felt too, but politics here really is the choice of the lesser of two evils
2008-04-20 18:34 < gwern> White_Cat: I agree. another clinton would be an embarassment. one of the best things about obama is his lack of ties to the WASP elite that GWB was raised in and the Clintons have been furiously trying to assimilate into
2008-04-20 18:34 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, nah. Clinton has a good chance of getting the delegates.
2008-04-20 18:34 < quanticle> White_Cat: Heh. I don't mind Clinton's policies, but her behavior after Super Tuesday is that of a small child who thinks that he or she can get the pony just by wishing hard enough.
2008-04-20 18:34 < mavhc> everyone knows obama is a secret muslim, and that's why he should win, having a muslim in charge would be great
2008-04-20 18:34 < Monobi> gwern, of course Obama is a friend to the Black Muslims
2008-04-20 18:34 < Ceiling_Cat> Monobi - no, she doesn't. After the primary is over, do you really think they are going to try to overturn the popular result of the election?
2008-04-20 18:35 < Ceiling_Cat> it would rip the democratic party apart
2008-04-20 18:35 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, yes.
2008-04-20 18:35 < Monobi> mavhc, you are on crack
2008-04-20 18:35 < White_Cat> I just want to see a new face in office
2008-04-20 18:35 < quanticle> Monobi: And why is Obama's friendship with Muslims such a bad thing?
2008-04-20 18:35 < White_Cat> A young face
2008-04-20 18:35 < Monobi> quanticle, because Obama is a radical
2008-04-20 18:35 < Ceiling_Cat> Monobi2 - there's a very good reason why he gains superdelegates every day and she loses them
2008-04-20 18:35 < Krimpet> Ceiling_Cat, indeed - this isn't the Republican party c. 2000. :)
2008-04-20 18:35 < quanticle> Monobi: Really? Then you don't know what a radical is.
2008-04-20 18:35 < Monobi> quanticle, obama is the most liberal senator in congress
2008-04-20 18:35 < Krimpet> overturning the popular vote is soooo 8 years ago :p
2008-04-20 18:36 < Fennec> Obama! Since you don't have /any idea/ how he'll fuck up the country!
2008-04-20 18:36 * Ceiling_Cat huggles Krimpet
2008-04-20 18:36 < quanticle> Monobi: Obama has been repeatedly excoriated inside his own community for not being liberal enough.
2008-04-20 18:36 < Monobi> Krimpet, actually giving the people the right to vote in the federal elections is fsked
2008-04-20 18:36 < mavhc> damn those liberals, always freeing our slaves and letting women vote
2008-04-20 18:36 < White_Cat> I feel sorry for McCain
2008-04-20 18:36 < mavhc> they've ruined the country
2008-04-20 18:36 < Monobi> quanticle, then those people must be terrorists
2008-04-20 18:36 < Fennec> mavhc: True, true!
2008-04-20 18:36 < Fennec> >.>
2008-04-20 18:36 < Krimpet> Monobi: um, are you familiar with the composition of the senate?
2008-04-20 18:36 < White_Cat> he failed to be an Admiral only because he was taken POW by vietnam
2008-04-20 18:36 < quanticle> Fennec: Heh. Sometimes the devil you don't know is better because you don't see how he could be worse than the devils you do know.
2008-04-20 18:37 < Krimpet> [[Bernie Sanders]]
2008-04-20 18:37 < Monobi> Krimpet, I understand that years ago the state reps. voted for the federal gov't
2008-04-20 18:37 < Krimpet> Sanders is actually a self-described socialist
2008-04-20 18:37 < Monobi> Now the senate is bulletproof
2008-04-20 18:37 < Fennec> what I'd like to see is Hilary take the White House, but the Democrats lose Congress
2008-04-20 18:37 < Ceiling_Cat> Fennec - insanity
2008-04-20 18:37 < White_Cat> Fennec you want bill clinton to be the first lady?
2008-04-20 18:37 < Monobi> I'd like to see the republicans and democrats implode
2008-04-20 18:37 < Monobi> They both suck
2008-04-20 18:37 < Krimpet> ewwww, we don't need another republican congress.
2008-04-20 18:38 < quanticle> Fennec: That'd be pretty ideal. It'd be like Bill's second term - complete and utter gridlock.
2008-04-20 18:38 < Fennec> this whole one-party Prez+congress deal isn't such a good deal.
2008-04-20 18:38 < Ceiling_Cat> the democrats need unfettered control of all parts of government, to undo the massive damage done by the last 15 years of republican idiocy
2008-04-20 18:38 < White_Cat> what do you think will happen on the first G-8 meeting where the presidents and their wifes seperate in two circles
2008-04-20 18:38 < mavhc> president ~= king, so old fashioned
2008-04-20 18:38 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat, the democrats are full of crap
2008-04-20 18:38 < Ceiling_Cat> well, not "unfettered", per se
2008-04-20 18:38 < Monobi> They are socialistic morons
2008-04-20 18:38 < White_Cat> clinton would orgy
2008-04-20 18:38 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: I dunno. The second term of Bill Clinton was pretty nice.
2008-04-20 18:38 < Ceiling_Cat> mavhc - that's what John Yoo would say
2008-04-20 18:38 < Fennec> Ceiling_Cat: just like the Republicans who needed unfettered control to undo the massive damage done by Democrat idiocy? Yeah, that's what they promised me too.
2008-04-20 18:38 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: I rather enjoyed that gridlock.
2008-04-20 18:38 < Fennec> I'm not thrilled with how it worked out
2008-04-20 18:38 < Monobi> They believe in destroying individual rights
2008-04-20 18:38 < MikaelLindmark> In svwp I have 2 new users reporting that they can't confirm their e-mail addresses. Where and how should I report?
2008-04-20 18:39 < Fennec> Oh, wait, that's because it didn't.
2008-04-20 18:39 < White_Cat> Monobi yeah they drafted the patirot act
2008-04-20 18:39 < Ceiling_Cat> Fennec - yes, the same Democratic idiocy that brought you social security, civil rights protection, the EPA, OSHA, a government that didn't spy on you, etc
2008-04-20 18:39 < Monobi> White_Cat, I never said I supported the patriot act, did I ?
2008-04-20 18:39 < Ceiling_Cat> OHSA*
2008-04-20 18:39 < quanticle> Monobi: I fail to see how either the Democrats or the Republicans have preserved individual rights.
2008-04-20 18:39 < White_Cat> Monobi no
2008-04-20 18:39 < White_Cat> but it is a republican invention
2008-04-20 18:39 < Monobi> I'm off to work to support the lazy assholes on welfare
2008-04-20 18:39 < Fennec> Ceiling_Cat: Social Security was how many decades ago?
2008-04-20 18:39 < Monobi> quanticle, I never said I liked either
2008-04-20 18:39 < Ceiling_Cat> 7
2008-04-20 18:39 < Krimpet> Monobi, individual rights like personal privacy, reproductive rights, freedom from religion... riiiight
2008-04-20 18:40 < mavhc> Monobi: so you're running for office?
2008-04-20 18:40 < Monobi> mavhc, no
2008-04-20 18:40 < White_Cat> I think green party should run the senate
2008-04-20 18:40 < Monobi> Krimpet, I never said I liked the republicans
2008-04-20 18:40 < Fennec> Ceiling_Cat: I don't think anyone can judge a political party by what it did 50+ years ago.