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2008-04-15 23:52 < Fennec> as far as I recall.
2008-04-15 23:52 < DannyLilithborne> bleh.
2008-04-15 23:52 < zocky> some places had tests for voters
2008-04-15 23:52 < DannyLilithborne> free to be a complete knucklehead!
2008-04-15 23:52 < zocky> mostly intended to keep the poor and ethnic minorities from voting
2008-04-15 23:52 < DannyLilithborne> i think i'll start calling people knuckleheads
2008-04-15 23:52 < Fennec> Jus sanguinis (law of blood, parents are american) and jus soli (law of the soil, you're born in America) are the general operating deal. or something like that.
2008-04-15 23:53 < gwern> The madness! I feel the ferment bloodening in the potroast of my cortex!
2008-04-15 23:54 < zocky> !medic
2008-04-15 23:54 < cimon> okay, I make the link...
2008-04-15 23:54 < Krimpet> the south had ridiculously hard "literacy tests," along with grandfather clauses that made white folks exempt
2008-04-15 23:54 < cimon> No need to go all channel on me. You only had to ask...
2008-04-15 23:54 < bumm13> it's always interesting when an illegal immigrant mother has a child(ren) born in the U.S.
2008-04-15 23:54 < Mike_H> zocky: funny that you mention the whole gap between what we knew and what they knew
2008-04-15 23:54 < Krimpet> "literacy" meaning e.g. "being able to recite the Constitution from memory"
2008-04-15 23:55 < Mike_H> bumm13: look at the headline of a TV Guide
2008-04-15 23:55 < Mike_H> from 1982
2008-04-15 23:55 < Mike_H> http://www.scifistore.com/ebay/t/h1698.jpg
2008-04-15 23:55 < Mike_H> er
2008-04-15 23:55 < Mike_H> zocky
2008-04-15 23:55 < Mike_H> not bumm13
2008-04-15 23:55 * bumm13 looks anyway ;)
2008-04-15 23:55 < Mike_H> bumm13: I think you've seen it before
2008-04-15 23:55 < bumm13> nope
2008-04-15 23:55 < bumm13> The Facts of Life! ;)
2008-04-15 23:55 < zocky> Mike_H, great photo :)
2008-04-15 23:55 < bumm13> "With selected cable/pay listings"
2008-04-15 23:55 < bumm13> heh
2008-04-15 23:56 < Mike_H> zocky: get a kick out of the headline
2008-04-15 23:56 < zocky> they all smile so nicely
2008-04-15 23:56 < bumm13> 1982, newness of cable zomg
2008-04-15 23:56 < zocky> Mike_H, yeah, I saw, but the shiny teeth make it hard to concentrate on text
2008-04-15 23:56 < bumm13> haha
2008-04-15 23:56 < bumm13> there's no business like show business
2008-04-15 23:56 < Mike_H> bumm13: they first added "pay TV listings" in TV Guide in 1981.
2008-04-15 23:57 < bumm13> in 1982, a person could spend a lot of money on a 12-foot satellite dish and get HBO and Showtime in the clear
2008-04-15 23:57 < bumm13> (and other such channels)
2008-04-15 23:57 < bumm13> ah
2008-04-15 23:57 < bumm13> MTV launched in 1981
2008-04-15 23:57 < bumm13> and it had (gasp!) *music videos*
2008-04-15 23:57 < zocky> we had very cheap cable in 1985
2008-04-15 23:58 < zocky> community owned
2008-04-15 23:58 < bumm13> we first got cable in 1988 (for less than a year; my stepdad was/is a cheap ass)
2008-04-15 23:58 < zocky> of course, some of the channels were pirated, but meh
2008-04-15 23:58 < DannyLilithborne> I want my MTV
2008-04-15 23:58 * Fennec doesn't have a TV >.>
2008-04-15 23:58 < bumm13> Fennec: nowadays, that's probably a good thing
2008-04-15 23:58 < bumm13> I cannot stand most programming that's on now
2008-04-15 23:58 < Fennec> save $$ and time (and sanity)
2008-04-15 23:59 < DannyLilithborne> I only tape what I like
2008-04-15 23:59 < bumm13> I don't even watch sports as much anymore
2008-04-15 23:59 < DannyLilithborne> am blissfully unaware of the rest
2008-04-15 23:59 < Krimpet> I got a TV solely to play my Wii on.
2008-04-15 23:59 < bumm13> and stopped watching local news years ago :x
2008-04-15 23:59 < bumm13> Krimpet: heh
2008-04-15 23:59 < Mike_H> The only TV shows I follow anymore are...
2008-04-15 23:59 < Mike_H> Y&R, Big Brother, and the Celebrity Fit Club
2008-04-15 23:59 < bumm13> couldn't a flat-screen monitor work with a Wii?
2008-04-15 23:59 < Mike_H> that's it
2008-04-15 23:59 < Krimpet> I also watch Colbert, though could watch him online without a TV
2008-04-15 23:59 < Fennec> I /do/ have a harp, however.
2008-04-15 23:59 < bumm13> (DVI connectors or whatever)
2008-04-16 00:00 < Fennec> 'tis rented, though. for now.
2008-04-16 00:00 < zocky> there are some good tv shows, maybe even more than ever
2008-04-16 00:00 < bumm13> a harp would be prohibitively expensive to own
2008-04-16 00:00 < zocky> the problem is the endless stream of utter crap that accompanies them
2008-04-16 00:00 < Fennec> bumm13: oh?
2008-04-16 00:00 < bumm13> zocky: the actual real-life type shows are interesting
2008-04-16 00:00 < Krimpet> bumm13: I tried hooking it up to a flatscreen monitor I've got, but gave up - it would've required a $200 adapter
2008-04-16 00:00 < bumm13> Fennec: well, just a guess
2008-04-16 00:01 < Krimpet> the TV, on the other hand, was $15 from craigslist. :)
2008-04-16 00:01 < bumm13> Krimpet - that's Big N for ya ;p
2008-04-16 00:01 < bumm13> Krimpet - oh cool
2008-04-16 00:01 < bumm13> I would have gotten the adapter then
2008-04-16 00:01 < Mike_H> bumm13: I heard Hallmark is bringing back Facts of Life though
2008-04-16 00:01 < bumm13> are they? nice
2008-04-16 00:01 < bumm13> Hallmark needs something that's not completely sappy ;p
2008-04-16 00:01 < Krimpet> bumm13: not Nintendo's fault, as much as that connecting composite video to an RGB monitor is nigh impossible
2008-04-16 00:01 < bumm13> (and that's considering that TFOL is a tad sappy)
2008-04-16 00:01 < zocky> Fennec, how much is a harp anyway?
2008-04-16 00:02 < Fennec> bumm13: a very nice quality student lever harp is about $4,000. Cheaper, slightly smaller ones (more folk-oriented than classical) are readily available around $2,500.
2008-04-16 00:02 < zocky> the random website I'm looking at sells them for 11 k$ - 50 k$
2008-04-16 00:02 < bumm13> Krimpet: the Wii only has composite (or possibly component) outputs?
2008-04-16 00:02 < Mike_H> bumm13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3zPBBDEYfQ
2008-04-16 00:02 * Krimpet plays the blues harp, which is significantly cheaper :)
2008-04-16 00:02 < Krimpet> bumm13: yeah, only composite/component
2008-04-16 00:02 < bumm13> zocky: yeah, I was thinking the large fancy ones
2008-04-16 00:02 < Fennec> A pedal harp will start at around $10,000 for a petite one with a small, straight soundboard.
2008-04-16 00:03 < bumm13> Krimpet: d'oh
2008-04-16 00:03 < Krimpet> it's basically an overclocked GameCube
2008-04-16 00:03 < bumm13> seems like flat-panel TVs would have component input
2008-04-16 00:03 < CompuHacker> Status? What's going on?
2008-04-16 00:03 < Fennec> The top-quality normalish pedal harps get up to around $25,000ish; gold harps and other special ones can easily run six figures, however.
2008-04-16 00:03 < CompuHacker> It appears Wikipedia is in read only mode...
2008-04-16 00:04 < bumm13> just be patient, it'll go back to normal
2008-04-16 00:04 < Krimpet> CompuHacker: it should work again now. :)
2008-04-16 00:04 < CompuHacker> Ok, nevermind. Scratch that. Thanks all
2008-04-16 00:04 < bumm13> try refreshing
2008-04-16 00:04 < bumm13> :)
2008-04-16 00:04 < Fennec> http://www.lyonhealy.com/lever-troubadour-vi.htm <-- student, classicalish, $4k. http://www.lyonhealy.com/lever-ogden.htm <-- folk, $2500.
2008-04-16 00:04 < bumm13> I like in one of the interludes on one of Nirvana's tracks on their Unplugged CD
2008-04-16 00:04 < Mike_H> bumm13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDffxteZXLg
2008-04-16 00:04 < Mike_H> I really miss that show
2008-04-16 00:04 < Mike_H> for real
2008-04-16 00:04 < bumm13> where Kurt Cobain says, "What is that they're tuning, a harp?"
2008-04-16 00:05 < zocky> Fennec, so, you take your harp with you to parties much? ;)
2008-04-16 00:05 < Fennec> http://www.lyonhealy.com/pedal-style-85-p.htm <-- entry level pedal, $11k. http://www.lyonhealy.com/pedal-style-23.htm <-- fancy pedal, $23k. http://www.lyonhealy.com/special-louis-xv-special-concert-grand.htm <-- absurd $179k.
2008-04-16 00:05 < Fennec> zocky: nope.
2008-04-16 00:05 < Fennec> http://www.camac-harps.com/camac-harps-eng/littlebb.html <-- electroacoustic European model, $18k. (what I'm aiming for in the middle-future).
2008-04-16 00:05 < Mike_H> zocky: Did you ever see What's Happening!!
2008-04-16 00:05 < Mike_H> one of my favorite shows ever
2008-04-16 00:06 < zocky> Mike_H, nope
2008-04-16 00:06 < Mike_H> [[What's Happening!!]]
2008-04-16 00:06 < bumm13> Mike_H: I'm not sure I've even heard of it
2008-04-16 00:06 < Mike_H> bumm13: oh sure you have
2008-04-16 00:06 < Mike_H> with Rerun
2008-04-16 00:06 < Mike_H> and Dwayne
2008-04-16 00:06 < Mike_H> Hey HEY hey
2008-04-16 00:07 < zocky> Mike_H, actually, I may have seen that on sky channel some time in the 1980s
2008-04-16 00:07 < Mike_H> Unlike Good Times, a contemporary show that also had African-American cast, What's Happening!! only rarely and mildly ventured into social commentary. TV Guide once famously referred to What's Happening!! as "a look at urban black life that manages to capture the offensiveness of Amos and Andy while avoiding that program's fun."
2008-04-16 00:07 < Mike_H> Most episodes focused on the goals of teenage males ? meeting girls, finding after school jobs, and planning for the future. Episodes sometimes featured subplots involving Mrs. Thomas, Raj's bratty sister Dee, or waitress Shirley.
2008-04-16 00:08 < bumm13> heh, it mentions Tampa Bay regarding football
2008-04-16 00:08 * bumm13 wonders if this "mini-sode" is from 1976
2008-04-16 00:08 < Mike_H> bumm13: 1977
2008-04-16 00:08 < Mike_H> it's season 2
2008-04-16 00:09 < bumm13> ah ok
2008-04-16 00:09 < bumm13> Tampa Bay won its first game *ever* in 1977
2008-04-16 00:09 < zocky> first two years of secondary school, my classes started at 12:25, which meant I had all mornings free to watch cable TV, which at that time of day consisted either of reruns on sky, or david attenborough and stuff on public tv
2008-04-16 00:09 < bumm13> (over the Saints and Archie Manning)
2008-04-16 00:09 < bumm13> they were still awful though
2008-04-16 00:12 < Mike_H> He is nicknamed "Rerun" because, due to his failures in school, "every summer he has to go to school to rerun the stuff he did all winter."
2008-04-16 00:12 < Mike_H> <3
2008-04-16 00:15 < Mike_H> that's a good episode too
2008-04-16 00:15 < Mike_H> Shirley applies for a secretary job
2008-04-16 00:15 < Mike_H> and she gets really disappointed when she finds out she only got the job because of affirmative action
2008-04-16 00:15 < Mike_H> :o
2008-04-16 00:15 < bumm13> oh geez
2008-04-16 00:15 < miranda> ? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_L_Osborne
2008-04-16 00:15 < bumm13> that wasn't as big of an issue then, was it?
2008-04-16 00:15 < gomez_> re
2008-04-16 00:15 < Mike_H> bumm13: no, not really
2008-04-16 00:15 < Ceiling_Cat> still not enough katz in channel
2008-04-16 00:16 < Mike_H> it was in its infancy in the '70s
2008-04-16 00:16 < Ceiling_Cat> INSUFFECIENT PUSSY! MAOR KATZ!
2008-04-16 00:16 < bumm13> it started getting more press in the late 80s and much of the 90s
2008-04-16 00:16 < zocky> Danica Mae McKellar (born 3 January 1975), is an American actress and mathematician. As a result of this unusual combination of interests, McKellar has an Erdős–Bacon number of 6.
2008-04-16 00:16 < Mike_H> bumm13: basically she got hired to show off that they hired a black woman
2008-04-16 00:16 < Mike_H> and she was paid to just sit there and do nothing
2008-04-16 00:18 < miranda> that's a fake bio btw
2008-04-16 00:19 < miranda> meh, I'll let you guys take care of it....
2008-04-16 00:20 < gomez_> is wikipedia purely user donation supported?
2008-04-16 00:21 < Fennec> no; there are nonusers who donate.
2008-04-16 00:21 < Fennec> including corporate entities and a trivial amount of merchandise, last I checked, but I've been out of the loop for a while
2008-04-16 00:22 < gomez_> ah, ok. thanks
2008-04-16 00:24 < zocky> there are occasional big grants or other donations
2008-04-16 00:24 < zocky> but most of the money comes from people who give small amounts, AFAIK
2008-04-16 00:25 < Mike_H> bumm13: oh shit, I just found some Gimme a Break! reruns on YouTube
2008-04-16 00:25 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2mtAYjiBA8
2008-04-16 00:26 < Alkivar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ONJfp95yoE <-- cat playing a theremin
2008-04-16 00:26 < Alkivar> its cooler
2008-04-16 00:26 < Mike_H> Alkivar: Nell Carter's the bomb, dig
2008-04-16 00:27 < gomez_> it's great to see a wonderful source of information created and governed by the people. even tho an admin blocked my account for using multiple ip addresses (i only have 2 isps that i use with my iphone and home pc). denelson83 was nice enough to unblock me last night, but for some reason on some screens it says im still blocked. probably just contridictory profile data. oh well
2008-04-16 00:28 < gwern> 'In many countries, backpacks are heavily identified with students, and are a primary means of transporting educational materials to and from school.[1] In this context they are sometimes known as bookbags or schoolbags. The purchase of a suitably fashionable, attractive, and useful backpack is a crucial back-to-school ritual for many students.[2]' <-- god I love WP writing some times
2008-04-16 00:29 < gomez_> haha .. if its on your back, who cares what it looks like? :>
2008-04-16 00:34 < BoL> later y'all!
2008-04-16 00:34 < denelson83> somebody ping me?
2008-04-16 00:34 < ggreer> gomez_: ok, you can wear the rainbow colored backpack
2008-04-16 00:34 < ggreer> and I'll wear the normal looking one
2008-04-16 00:34 < denelson83> j/k, my IRC client doesn't freak out when someone writes my nick
2008-04-16 00:35 < gomez_> hi denelson83
2008-04-16 00:35 < ggreer> today's feature article: too soon? :)
2008-04-16 00:35 < gomez_> i love rainbows, i have no difficulty with the conotations
2008-04-16 00:36 < ggreer> ok, wear one with a giant burning lower case t
2008-04-16 00:36 < gomez_> sorry, altho i try to keep up on all emerging cultural phenomena, im clueless about flaming t's?
2008-04-16 00:36 < ggreer> gomez_: burning cross
2008-04-16 00:37 < gomez_> whoa, that sounds all wound up with meaning
2008-04-16 00:37 < ggreer> yeah
2008-04-16 00:39 < gomez_> denelson83: did anyone ever guess your 20 questions answer?
2008-04-16 00:39 < Alkivar> http://www.core77.com/blog/images/00730030.jpg
2008-04-16 00:39 < ggreer> denelson83: lafayette barnes!
2008-04-16 00:44 < gwern> 'Once upon a time, there was a student who went to a math lecture. When the lecture was over, he approached one of the other students, and said, "I couldn't follow that at all. The professor was talking about rotating 8-dimensional objects! How am I supposed to visualize something rotating in 8 dimensions?"
2008-04-16 00:44 < gwern> "Easy," replied the oter student, "you visualize it rotating in N dimensions, then let Ne go to 8."'
2008-04-16 00:47 < gomez_> hehe
2008-04-16 00:54 < bumm13> hiya ggreerParsley
2008-04-16 00:54 < gwern> '
2008-04-16 00:54 < gwern> '
2008-04-16 00:54 < gwern> I bet when you woke up this morning, you didn't think that today you would be visualizing plaid patterns in N dimensions.
2008-04-16 00:54 < gwern> How little you know me.
2008-04-16 00:54 < gwern> '
2008-04-16 00:55 < gwern> http://web.archive.org/web/20010408224421/www.lileks.com/institute/interiors/bhg/chpt8/6.html <-- the goggles. Why do they do nothing?
2008-04-16 00:55 < gwern> remember, what is seen cannot be unseen!
2008-04-16 00:56 < zocky> people put strangest stuff on Youtube: LEGO Ferris Bueller's Day Off (Explicit)
2008-04-16 00:56 < cimon> gwern: tell that to Mustrum Ridcully
2008-04-16 00:57 < gwern> cimon: I tell nothing to fictional folks
2008-04-16 00:57 < Krimpet> YouTube taught me how to not pet my parrot to avoid getting it sexually aroused
2008-04-16 00:57 < cimon> well my line was fucking bad anyway, and in no way obvieates oyur point
2008-04-16 00:58 < cimon> of course unseen things can remain unseen
2008-04-16 00:58 < gwern> a seen thing is not an unseen thing; A can remain A?
2008-04-16 00:58 < cimon> it is just when they ap pear, they become a public spectalce
2008-04-16 01:00 < Ceiling_Cat> for my phd, I'm going to teach a supercomputer to love
2008-04-16 01:00 < Ceiling_Cat> :P
2008-04-16 01:01 < bumm13> I see that Germany has the first (and not last) Blue Gene/P installation
2008-04-16 01:01 < cimon> why teach them to love, they already fuck with us enough...
2008-04-16 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> bumm13 - I held one of the first bluegene/p node cards in my hand in 2006
2008-04-16 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> at SC06
2008-04-16 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> In fact, I put pixxxxxxxx in the bluegene article
2008-04-16 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> by the way, Cyclops64 (BlueGene/C) went into production this week
2008-04-16 01:02 < Ceiling_Cat> Monty signed off on it tuesday
2008-04-16 01:03 < Ceiling_Cat> at 11:59:59 PM
2008-04-16 01:03 < bumm13> cool
2008-04-16 01:03 < Ceiling_Cat> (erm, last tuesday, that is)
2008-04-16 01:03 < cimon> Ceiling_Cat, hehe, I own a still sealed 8 inch master program disk of microsoft basic.
2008-04-16 01:03 * bumm13 is somewhat saddened by the lack of computer platform diversity nowadays
2008-04-16 01:03 < Ceiling_Cat> the first three go to IBM, the government agency, and my resarch group (in that order)
2008-04-16 01:04 < bumm13> at least supercomputing adds some twists to things
2008-04-16 01:05 < Mike_H> <mycoxaflopn> sharon going tomorrow?
2008-04-16 01:05 < Mike_H> tackiest screen name ever
2008-04-16 01:06 * Ceiling_Cat snickers
2008-04-16 01:06 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - I registered 'footlongfloppy' on AIM and in freenode
2008-04-16 01:06 < bumm13> :x
2008-04-16 01:06 < Ceiling_Cat> I love that nick :P
2008-04-16 01:06 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: You have to watch Pageant Place
2008-04-16 01:06 < bumm13> a 12-inch floppy disk would be large ;)
2008-04-16 01:06 < Mike_H> it's the best show ever to be created
2008-04-16 01:07 < Ceiling_Cat> Never heard of it
2008-04-16 01:07 < Mike_H> it's a reality show
2008-04-16 01:07 < Mike_H> Miss Teen USA
2008-04-16 01:07 < Mike_H> Miss USA
2008-04-16 01:07 < Mike_H> and Miss Universe
2008-04-16 01:07 < Mike_H> all share an apartment in New York City
2008-04-16 01:07 < Krimpet> and fight to the death?
2008-04-16 01:07 < Mike_H> and then they brought back that old Miss USA who was put in a trial by media for cokewhoring
2008-04-16 01:07 < Mike_H> for the dramas
2008-04-16 01:08 < gwern> quick, what's a tree name that starts with 'Bo'?
2008-04-16 01:08 < Krimpet> that tree Buddha sat under, IIRC
2008-04-16 01:08 * bumm13 imagines reality-shows 10 years from now where people shit and eat each others feces
2008-04-16 01:09 < Krimpet> [[Bodhi tree]]
2008-04-16 01:09 < gwern> bo and bodhi are good
2008-04-16 01:09 < Ceiling_Cat> bumm13 - how long until we have live executions on TV?
2008-04-16 01:09 < Ceiling_Cat> Fox would show those in a new york second if they could
2008-04-16 01:10 < bumm13> heh, no kidding :P
2008-04-16 01:10 < Krimpet> world's CRAZIEST public executions
2008-04-16 01:10 < bumm13> oh gawd
2008-04-16 01:10 < bumm13> with that police chases show narrator
2008-04-16 01:10 < Krimpet> MOST SHOCKING?
2008-04-16 01:10 < Ceiling_Cat> in all seriousness, it is unusual that the western world doesn't have public executions
2008-04-16 01:11 < bumm13> yeah
2008-04-16 01:11 < Krimpet> my dad watches that show religiously along with COPS
2008-04-16 01:11 < Ceiling_Cat> I mean, for thousands of years, it was the norm in all parts of the world
2008-04-16 01:11 < Ceiling_Cat> until about ~40 years ago in the western world, too
2008-04-16 01:13 < bumm13> Krimpet: the chases show is constantly reruns
2008-04-16 01:13 < bumm13> do they even make new episodes of it now?
2008-04-16 01:14 < Krimpet> bumm13: I dunno
2008-04-16 01:16 < Krimpet> my father knows every episode of COPS more or less by heart, though.
2008-04-16 01:17 < Krimpet> growing up, it was the staple of our household from 8 to 9 on Saturday nights
2008-04-16 01:17 < bumm13> 1997-2002
2008-04-16 01:17 < bumm13> "World's Scariest Police Chases..."
2008-04-16 01:18 < bumm13> Krimpet: I've seen most of them probably
2008-04-16 01:18 < bumm13> especially the older ones
2008-04-16 01:18 < bumm13> I remember when it first come on the air in 1989
2008-04-16 01:18 < bumm13> (on Fox)
2008-04-16 01:18 * Krimpet remembers best the naked bloody guy in a field in Des Moines, Iowa :s
2008-04-16 01:18 < bumm13> arg
2008-04-16 01:18 < gomez_> can someone unblock me? i only have one account rafaelsfingers. someone made a tenuous connection between me and supergreenred but i dont even know this person.
2008-04-16 01:18 < Mike_H> Wednesday at 8
2008-04-16 01:18 < Mike_H> we always watched The Nanny
2008-04-16 01:18 < Mike_H> <3
2008-04-16 01:19 < gomez_> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ASuspected_sock_puppets%2FRafaelsfingers&diff=205733756&oldid=205701785
2008-04-16 01:19 < gwern> '"The state of Texas has confiscated our children on an alleged allegation that has no facts. And now they're holding our children. And we want the children back," a woman who identified herself as Kathleen told CNN's Anderson Cooper on Monday night.'
2008-04-16 01:19 < gwern> do courts allow stuff to be done on allegations of allegations?
2008-04-16 01:20 < gwern> 'Kathleen is the fifth wife of a sect member, said Carolyn Jessop, who escaped from the sect with her eight children in 2003. Jessop said that she was the fourth wife of Kathleen's husband and that Kathleen had tried to block her escape.'
2008-04-16 01:21 < gomez_> (if someone were to look at our edit history, its clear we are not the same person)
2008-04-16 01:21 < gwern> '"We have been persecuted for our religion," Kathleen said. "We are being treated like the Jews were when they were escorted to the German Nazi camps."' <-- aaaand,.... just before the article end she manages to Godwin herself
2008-04-16 01:22 < Krimpet> gomez_: hmm, come into #wikipedia-en-unblock
2008-04-16 01:22 < gomez_> ok thanks
2008-04-16 01:23 < enok|walker> hay gang wuts goin down in wikitown
2008-04-16 01:26 < enok|walker> :s
2008-04-16 01:31 < The359> Master Blaster runs Wikitown
2008-04-16 01:38 * Mike_H NP: Stars on 45 - Stars on 45 Medley (1981)
2008-04-16 01:41 < Alkivar> lol mike i have that on vinyl
2008-04-16 01:42 < mavhc> kinky
2008-04-16 01:43 < Mike_H> Alkivar: rofl
2008-04-16 01:52 < Mike_H> Alkivar: The Stars on 45
2008-04-16 01:52 < Mike_H> keep on burning in your mind
2008-04-16 01:52 * Mike_H dances
2008-04-16 01:55 < denelson83> Mike_H: But we can work it out
2008-04-16 01:55 < denelson83> Remember twist or shout
2008-04-16 01:58 < zocky> try to see it my way
2008-04-16 02:11 < Mike_H> denelson83: you still don't tell me why
2008-04-16 02:11 < Mike_H> and no reply
2008-04-16 02:11 < Mike_H> y
2008-04-16 02:11 < Mike_H> y
2008-04-16 02:11 < Mike_H> y
2008-04-16 02:13 < Krimpet> n
2008-04-16 02:13 < Krimpet> abort, retry, ignore?
2008-04-16 02:13 < Mike_H> Krimpet: whatevs
2008-04-16 02:14 * Krimpet is eating peanut butter crunch at 2 AM. one of the true perks of adulthood. :D
2008-04-16 02:15 < Ceiling_Cat> Krimpet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-04-16 02:15 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles
2008-04-16 02:15 * Krimpet crunch-a-tizes Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-16 02:18 < Ceiling_Cat> Mwahahahaha
2008-04-16 02:18 < Ceiling_Cat> I have the final data my prof asked for
2008-04-16 02:18 < Ceiling_Cat> I wasn't expecting to get it in time
2008-04-16 02:18 < Ceiling_Cat> :)))))
2008-04-16 02:18 < Ceiling_Cat> wanna see my purty curve?
2008-04-16 02:19 < Krimpet> eww... that sounds dirty
2008-04-16 02:19 * Krimpet thinks she's probably seen enough curves this week :x
2008-04-16 02:19 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mpellegr/mta_streams.xls
2008-04-16 02:20 < Ceiling_Cat> it's an excel document, so you know it's boring :P
2008-04-16 02:20 < nokmar> yeah, prof requires excel?
2008-04-16 02:20 < Ceiling_Cat> nokmar - no, I use excel to generate my graphs
2008-04-16 02:20 < Ceiling_Cat> I take screenshots, save them as .eps, and put them into latex
2008-04-16 02:21 < Ceiling_Cat> which is required
2008-04-16 02:21 < Ceiling_Cat> (latex, that is)
2008-04-16 02:21 * Krimpet knows all about the latex curves
2008-04-16 02:21 * Ceiling_Cat snickers @ Krimpet's dirty talk
2008-04-16 02:21 < nokmar> well, I have no idea how you're using excel
2008-04-16 02:21 < Ceiling_Cat> what do you mean?
2008-04-16 02:21 * Krimpet will be here all week. try the veal! :)
2008-04-16 02:21 < nokmar> super secret maths programming techniques =P
2008-04-16 02:22 < nokmar> I don't use excel, that is
2008-04-16 02:22 < Ceiling_Cat> It's a pretty simple program
2008-04-16 02:22 < Ceiling_Cat> you put numbers in, and clicky the Graph button
2008-04-16 02:22 < nokmar> it's a pretty simple proprietary program, in which I need extra libraries that your graph thing requires
2008-04-16 02:23 < Ceiling_Cat> well, not the final copy
2008-04-16 02:23 < Ceiling_Cat> (which will be in pdf format)
2008-04-16 02:23 < Ceiling_Cat> (and ps, although I don't touch that with a 10 foot pole)
2008-04-16 02:23 < nokmar> well, at least the final copy will be in latex
2008-04-16 02:23 < nokmar> which I can render =P
2008-04-16 02:23 < Ceiling_Cat> nokmar - I use latex to render pdf and ps
2008-04-16 02:24 < Ceiling_Cat> actually, I believe the exact order is LaTex -> ps -> pdf
2008-04-16 02:24 < Ceiling_Cat> so Krimpet, what do you think of my purty curves?
2008-04-16 02:24 < Ceiling_Cat> are they concave enough for you?
2008-04-16 02:25 < Krimpet> Ceiling_Cat: a bit on the short end - it comes up short of 70!
2008-04-16 02:26 < Krimpet> (oh and you can use pdflatex to generate PDFs directly without the additional steps ;)
2008-04-16 02:26 < Ceiling_Cat> Krimpet - it actually goes to 128, but I omitted the last dot because it skews the x-axis dimensions too much
2008-04-16 02:27 < Ceiling_Cat> Krimpet - meh, I just use the standard makefiles everyone in my group uses. As long as they work, I am sure as hell not going to screw with them :P
2008-04-16 02:27 < nokmar> less visible information, less complexity =P
2008-04-16 02:27 < Ceiling_Cat> I type "make clean && make" and those scripts do all the magic
2008-04-16 02:28 < Krimpet> Ceiling_Cat, ah, I usually run it from a shell
2008-04-16 02:29 < nokmar> are you running cygwin, wine, or some make script for windows?
2008-04-16 02:45 < Mark_Ryan> sfdag?
2008-04-16 03:03 < Ceiling_Cat> run, my little pretties!
2008-04-16 03:03 * Ceiling_Cat is in your login shell, watching your benchmarks
2008-04-16 03:50 < Mark_Ryan> this is a story about an ordinary teddy bear
2008-04-16 03:50 < Mark_Ryan> when he was made, they found something wrong with him, and threw him away like a piece of rubbish into an old, dark storeroom
2008-04-16 03:51 < Mark_Ryan> long story short, a camp guy with herpes flew in, gave him some LSD and they 'flew away into the clouds'
2008-04-16 03:51 < AdamBishop> what the hell
2008-04-16 03:51 < Mark_Ryan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZg74STOfig
2008-04-16 03:52 < Mark_Ryan> I'm re-exploring the television programs of my childhood
2008-04-16 03:53 < AdamBishop> is that Australian? I never saw that
2008-04-16 03:54 < Mark_Ryan> nah, British
2008-04-16 03:54 < Mark_Ryan> the Spotty Man was voiced by Jon Pertwee (The Doctor #3 from Doctor Who)
2008-04-16 03:54 < Mark_Ryan> ha! Raggy Dolls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9rXx88YsA&NR=1
2008-04-16 03:55 < Mark_Ryan> man, I am having such a bout of nostalgia
2008-04-16 03:55 < AdamBishop> wow, My Pet Monster
2008-04-16 03:55 < AdamBishop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXVL0Ca2bPY
2008-04-16 03:55 < AdamBishop> The Raccoons! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXsjzcC4Jdw&feature=related
2008-04-16 03:56 < AdamBishop> only in Canada would you have a cartoon about raccoons
2008-04-16 03:56 < AdamBishop> aw yeah, The Green Forest, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3-vnqMdjlk
2008-04-16 03:58 < Mark_Ryan> that raccoon show reminds me of Blinky Bill, an Australian one
2008-04-16 03:58 < Mark_Ryan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wreKClK3BGY
2008-04-16 03:59 < AdamBishop> I don't remember seeing any Australian shows. When I was a kid Australia meant Crocodile Dundee and Yahoo Serious
2008-04-16 03:59 < AdamBishop> that's pretty sad
2008-04-16 04:00 < Mark_Ryan> i'm surprised how much Australian TV they apparently have shown over the years in England
2008-04-16 04:00 < AdamBishop> awesome, Today's Special http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cxLfIs051c&NR=1
2008-04-16 04:08 < EmperorLOLZORZ> hi .
2008-04-16 04:16 < nokmar> hello
2008-04-16 04:34 < Mark_Ryan> I hope Green Day's next album lives up to American Idiot
2008-04-16 04:38 < AdamBishop> American Idiot was kind of boring, I thought
2008-04-16 04:39 < Mark_Ryan> i found it refreshingly different, particularly the really long tracks
2008-04-16 04:41 < Lycurgus> GD alblums seem to have at most 1 or 2 decent songs. That's normal.
2008-04-16 04:42 < Lycurgus> better than that would be excellent, which they aren't.
2008-04-16 05:03 < The_sunder_king> there is a redlink on the mainpage
2008-04-16 05:04 < The_sunder_king> !admin there is a redlink on the mainpage, or there was
2008-04-16 05:04 < The_sunder_king> Olympic torch relay
2008-04-16 05:04 * SQLDb notes that it's a bluelink
2008-04-16 05:05 < The_sunder_king> must have been restored then
2008-04-16 05:05 < SQLDb> The_sunder_king: yeah. Grawpyness http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=2008_Summer_Olympics_torch_relay
2008-04-16 05:06 < The_sunder_king> :(
2008-04-16 05:18 * Ceiling_Cat just found out something fascinating
2008-04-16 05:18 < Ceiling_Cat> You guys know Cokie Roberts, right?
2008-04-16 05:42 < Lycurgus> yes
2008-04-16 05:43 < Lycurgus> not that her father was Wade Boggs?
2008-04-16 05:46 < Lycurgus> s/Wade/Hale/
2008-04-16 06:08 < VNguyen> hello
2008-04-16 06:08 < VNguyen> where can I talk with stewards ?
2008-04-16 06:09 < VyNguyen> is there anyone here ?
2008-04-16 06:10 < VyNguyen> #Stward
2008-04-16 06:10 < VyNguyen> #Steward
2008-04-16 06:36 < kallepersson> Cheers, I need to upload an image but just recently registered
2008-04-16 06:36 < kallepersson> Could someone upload it for me?
2008-04-16 06:37 * Werdna pre-emptively stabs werdan7
2008-04-16 06:38 < werdan7> >:(
2008-04-16 06:38 < privatemusings> g'day werdna.....
2008-04-16 06:39 < privatemusings> (please don't stab me....)
2008-04-16 06:41 * Werdna hides
2008-04-16 06:41 * privatemusings seeks
2008-04-16 06:41 < Werdna> privatemusings: no luck ont he incorporation meeting, I'm out of town
2008-04-16 06:41 < privatemusings> i'm not even sure what exactly is going on.....
2008-04-16 06:42 < privatemusings> if there's a skypecast or conference call or ouiji board involved....?
2008-04-16 06:42 < kallepersson> Or at least, I'd like to be autoconfirmed
2008-04-16 06:42 < kallepersson> my account name is kallepersson
2008-04-16 06:42 < zero1328> ah, you mean that Aussie WIkimedia incorporation meeting, right?
2008-04-16 06:43 < privatemusings> that's the one!
2008-04-16 06:43 < privatemusings> we've got a chapter you know!
2008-04-16 06:43 < zero1328> Kinda odd to see not much detail on it..
2008-04-16 06:43 < zero1328> Do you follow the mailing list?
2008-04-16 06:44 < zero1328> well, either way there's not much detail I think
2008-04-16 06:44 < privatemusings> it's a little informal at the mo, I'm sensing...
2008-04-16 06:44 < zero1328> well, it is
2008-04-16 06:44 < privatemusings> (but this is someone who hasn't followed the mailing list closely enough...)
2008-04-16 06:45 < zero1328> it's not exactly a formal meeting, this is just the final finalising thing, and it'll be final
2008-04-16 06:45 < privatemusings> so nothing really needs to be said or discussed then?!
2008-04-16 06:45 < privatemusings> (that's what I'm not sure of!)
2008-04-16 06:45 < zero1328> There's an agenda..
2008-04-16 06:46 < privatemusings> I saw that.....
2008-04-16 06:46 * privatemusings goes to pull it up again.....
2008-04-16 06:46 < zero1328> but, well, I guess all we need to do is formally vote yes or no to this and that
2008-04-16 06:47 < privatemusings> my main interest is in the 'interim committee'
2008-04-16 06:47 < privatemusings> and what that means.....
2008-04-16 06:47 < zero1328> I've noted it a few times in the mailing list, doesn't seem to get to everyone
2008-04-16 06:47 < zero1328> "interim" means temporary
2008-04-16 06:47 < privatemusings> i understand that - but what's it for?
2008-04-16 06:48 < zero1328> the interim committee will act as the committee for the chapter initially, when it's just made
2008-04-16 06:48 < zero1328> we'll formally vote for the official committee afterwords
2008-04-16 06:49 < privatemusings> committee for what though?
2008-04-16 06:49 < zero1328> the chapter?
2008-04-16 06:49 < privatemusings> (sorry to be way begind the 8 ball...)
2008-04-16 06:49 < privatemusings> so that's the executive committee which has responsibility to 'run' the chapter?
2008-04-16 06:49 < zero1328> The head honchos of the group, I guess, to put it one way
2008-04-16 06:49 < zero1328> yeah
2008-04-16 06:51 < privatemusings> d'ya reckon we should support the current choices then?
2008-04-16 06:51 < kallepersson> zero1328: would you be so kind and upload an image for me? :)
2008-04-16 06:52 < zero1328> I dunno, it's your choice
2008-04-16 06:52 < kallepersson> I can't because I'm new
2008-04-16 06:52 < zero1328> kallepersson, no
2008-04-16 06:52 < privatemusings> will you be? (I only ask because I don't really understand the choice!)
2008-04-16 06:52 < zero1328> you can wait a few days, can't you?
2008-04-16 06:52 < kallepersson> The current article is wrong
2008-04-16 06:53 < kallepersson> So it would feel kinda bad
2008-04-16 06:53 < zero1328> just remove the current image for the time being or something.. with an edit summary
2008-04-16 06:53 < kallepersson> Allright
2008-04-16 06:53 < zero1328> I think, either you say, "yes, I agree, this is written fine", or "no, it's not written fine"
2008-04-16 06:54 < privatemusings> it all looks written fine to me!
2008-04-16 06:54 < zero1328> oh, that was for privatemusings
2008-04-16 06:54 < zero1328> well you gotta vote in a fancy formal way for it to work
2008-04-16 06:54 < privatemusings> are you heading along to melbourne, zero?
2008-04-16 06:54 < zero1328> no, I'm poor
2008-04-16 06:55 < privatemusings> the devil is in this detail "or another venue linked to Melbourne"
2008-04-16 06:55 < Werdna> privatemusings: can I give you proxy?
2008-04-16 06:55 < zero1328> anyway, this isn't a group of people on the internet and stuff, this is a physical real life meeting
2008-04-16 06:55 < privatemusings> i dunno really....
2008-04-16 06:55 < privatemusings> probably?
2008-04-16 06:55 < zero1328> so it's gotta be fancy and stuff
2008-04-16 06:55 < zero1328> and formal
2008-04-16 06:55 < privatemusings> not really - it just has specific rules....
2008-04-16 06:56 < nsh> whoa
2008-04-16 06:56 < privatemusings> and as I said - any venue can be 'linked' to melbourne - for example via a phone, or IRC connection.....
2008-04-16 06:56 < nsh> Intellipedia is a project of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) Intelligence Community Enterprise Services (ICES) office headquartered in Fort Meade, Maryland. It includes information on the regions, people and issues of interest to those communities. Intellipedia uses MediaWiki, the same software used by the Wikipedia free-content encyclopedia project.[2] ODNI officials say that the project will change the culture of the U.S. intelligen
2008-04-16 06:56 < privatemusings> the law doesn't define it as dar as I know.....
2008-04-16 06:56 < zero1328> IRC and Skype has a few legal problems I think, with confirming identity
2008-04-16 06:56 * nsh decides it's time to dig up those mediawiki remexp bugs again
2008-04-16 06:56 < zero1328> you have to make a local meetup, and make a conference call, connecting to the Melbourne group
2008-04-16 06:56 < privatemusings> well, the 'venue' can confirm legal identity.....
2008-04-16 06:57 < privatemusings> and how are they confirming identity anyway?
2008-04-16 06:58 < zero1328> being physically there I guess? I'm not sure, it's kinda a grey area
2008-04-16 06:58 < privatemusings> we're also back to the "another venue linked to Melbourne" issue....
2008-04-16 06:59 < privatemusings> if linked can be a phone call, then just call in, link yourself, promise that you are you, and vote away!
2008-04-16 06:59 * TheLetterE waves
2008-04-16 06:59 * privatemusings waves back
2008-04-16 07:01 < zero1328> well, if you just phone in alone I guess no one's able to confirm who you are that well
2008-04-16 07:01 < zero1328> or something
2008-04-16 07:01 < privatemusings> head to #wikimedia-au I think...
2008-04-16 07:01 < privatemusings> we might get some more info there...!
2008-04-16 07:03 * Mike_H cuddles privatemusings
2008-04-16 07:03 < privatemusings> g'day mike!
2008-04-16 07:05 * Chetblong huggles Mike
2008-04-16 07:05 < Chetblong> darn
2008-04-16 07:05 * Chetblong huggles Mike_H
2008-04-16 07:05 < Werdna> damn, the first facebook group I've liked the look of: When I was your age, there were only 150 pokemon.
2008-04-16 07:06 < OverlordQ> lol
2008-04-16 07:06 < Mike_H> :DD
2008-04-16 07:07 < bumm13> pokemon, ppft
2008-04-16 07:23 < Mike_H> From matching gems to the perfect match
2008-04-16 07:23 < Mike_H> Hacker proposes to girlfriend via casual puzzle game Bejeweled.
2008-04-16 07:23 < Mike_H> oh, and of course they're Asian
2008-04-16 07:23 < Mike_H> I'm so surprised
2008-04-16 07:37 < pvh_sa|wrk> heya... i'm trying to edit the Cholera article - and it has lots of links to horizonpress.com which is listed as a spam link - where can i find out why horizonpress.com was listed as spam?
2008-04-16 07:38 < Werdna> pvh_sa|wrk: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist/about
2008-04-16 07:40 < pvh_sa|wrk> Werdna, "this page doesn't currently exist"
2008-04-16 07:40 < Werdna> well remove /about and follow links
2008-04-16 07:42 < pvh_sa|wrk> Werdna, uhm, that's the blacklist, yes. but there are no links from there
2008-04-16 07:42 < zero1328> talk page
2008-04-16 07:42 < zero1328> go there
2008-04-16 07:42 < pvh_sa|wrk> ohhh
2008-04-16 07:43 < zero1328> ah, I don't think it's easy to find a specific reason, though.. generally it's because someone pasted the link all over Wikipedia, and that's, well, spam
2008-04-16 07:45 < pvh_sa|wrk> zero1328, yeah. this horizonpress place seems to be a scientific publisher, and the links seem to be being added to pages where one of their books is part of the "references" section
2008-04-16 07:45 < Mike_H> Cat makes desperate attempt for cake
2008-04-16 07:45 < Mike_H> for a minute I thought they were trying to say that was news
2008-04-16 07:45 < Mike_H> but it's just the newest viral video of the week
2008-04-16 07:46 < zero1328> Since it's on the blacklist, the only way to save the page you're editing would be to remove the links
2008-04-16 07:46 < pvh_sa|wrk> so... not sure if they *should* be in the spam blacklist. but this is too big an issue for me - i just wanted to remove some vandalism from the page
2008-04-16 07:46 < Lucifer_Cat> Mike_H: someone in advertising has been spending way too much time online
2008-04-16 07:48 < pvh_sa|wrk> zero1328, yeah, and that would turn this into a major edit. i mean, 3 books referenced...
2008-04-16 07:48 < zero1328> use ctrl-f
2008-04-16 07:51 < pvh_sa|wrk> zero1328, could the book reference be kept without the url to the publisher?
2008-04-16 07:51 < zero1328> hm? yeah, I guess, as long as you cite the publisher
2008-04-16 07:52 < zero1328> no need for a publisher url
2008-04-16 07:52 < zero1328> just a name
2008-04-16 07:58 < White_Cat> Magnitude 7.3 - LOYALTY ISLANDS
2008-04-16 07:58 < White_Cat> earthquake detected
2008-04-16 07:58 < White_Cat> panic
2008-04-16 07:58 < White_Cat> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2008qqa2.php
2008-04-16 08:10 < Whopper> join #freenode
2008-04-16 08:10 < Whopper> oops
2008-04-16 08:27 < Lucifer_Cat> gimme a Whopper
2008-04-16 08:41 * Lycurgus drops a burger on LC
2008-04-16 08:42 < Lycurgus> *booger
2008-04-16 09:03 < Lycurgus> hey, the Vatican has an anthem.
2008-04-16 09:03 < Lycurgus> and no, it's not "Rule and Fool, Em"
2008-04-16 09:03 < Lycurgus> *Rule Em
2008-04-16 09:15 < Cyrius> so, what's everybody doing in 2036?
2008-04-16 09:15 < Warpath> dying
2008-04-16 09:16 * Cyrius is rewriting a bit of [[99942 Apophis]]
2008-04-16 09:17 < le-coz_f> ls
2008-04-16 09:17 < le-coz_f> ping
2008-04-16 09:17 * Cyrius considers making a fake file listing
2008-04-16 09:24 < Lycurgus> you mean the Unix end year?
2008-04-16 09:25 < Lycurgus> *epochal year
2008-04-16 09:30 < Cyrius> Lycurgus: that's 2038
2008-04-16 09:30 < Cyrius> but nevermind
2008-04-16 09:31 < Cyrius> there was a story going around about this 13 year old german kid making NASA look stupid by raising the impact odds on Apophis to 1 in 450 (from 1 in 45000)
2008-04-16 09:31 < Cyrius> after some actual followup, it seems the reporters (gasp) got it wrong!
2008-04-16 09:32 < pvh_sa|wrk> Cyrius, it was from a german tabloid
2008-04-16 09:32 < pvh_sa|wrk> so yeah, nonauthorative ;)
2008-04-16 09:33 < Cyrius> AFP picked it up
2008-04-16 09:35 < Lycurgus> i saw on an article on the possibility of the CERN collider opening a black hole that seemed to set 1 in 50 million as the common probability of a sudden unexpected extinction event
2008-04-16 09:35 < Cyrius> the odds are far safer than that
2008-04-16 09:36 < Cyrius> although it depends on who you ask
2008-04-16 09:36 < Lycurgus> 1 in 50 million is based on an impact event not an mini BH or strangelet
2008-04-16 09:37 < nadis> hello Cyrius
2008-04-16 09:37 < Cyrius> oh
2008-04-16 09:37 < Cyrius> I can believe that
2008-04-16 09:37 < nadis> i'm glad to see you again here
2008-04-16 09:38 < Lycurgus> yeah, depending on how you define "unexpected" could be a lot higher (more likely)
2008-04-16 09:38 < Lycurgus> and the time frame is a year
2008-04-16 09:42 < Lycurgus> [[stranglet]] must be in the tag trolls undiscovered country, nary a tag or fact check.
2008-04-16 09:44 < Lubaf> "Lord, grant that my work increase knowledge and help other men. / "Failing that, Lord, grant that it will not lead to man’s destruction. / "Failing that, Lord, grant that my article in Brain be published before the destruction takes place."
2008-04-16 09:48 < cimon> I have just unraveled a great mystery.
2008-04-16 09:48 < Lycurgus> hmmm, Physics Letters or something would have made more sense. Mystery?
2008-04-16 09:48 < cimon> yes
2008-04-16 09:49 < cimon> I never quite got the drunkards walk idea in Heinleins Number of the Beast
2008-04-16 09:49 < Lycurgus> supposed to be somekina random walk?
2008-04-16 09:49 < cimon> I just realized the idea of grids makes it all sensible.
2008-04-16 09:50 < cimon> no, not random
2008-04-16 09:50 < White_Cat> cimon hmm
2008-04-16 09:50 < White_Cat> Beast of pie?
2008-04-16 09:50 < White_Cat> as in pi*e
2008-04-16 09:50 < Lycurgus> like SL grids?
2008-04-16 09:50 < cimon> chaotic, but with an order
2008-04-16 09:51 < White_Cat> chaotic yet orderly?
2008-04-16 09:51 < cimon> like, chess pieces will only be on 64 spots, even though geometrically there are of course an unlimited number of spots on the board.
2008-04-16 09:51 < White_Cat> oh
2008-04-16 09:51 * White_Cat puts cimon on a chess table
2008-04-16 09:52 < White_Cat> you occupy all 64 spots O_o
2008-04-16 09:52 < cimon> similarly if you make a specified kind of move on a sphere, shit, I just remembered I am full of shit...
2008-04-16 09:52 < cimon> I already figured this one out, and it was nothing like my idiotic idea now...
2008-04-16 09:53 < cimon> never mind me. I am just generally a sac full of entrails and shit.
2008-04-16 09:53 < cimon> In fact I remember reading the wikipedia article on drunkards walk before getting it..
2008-04-16 09:54 < pvh_sa|wrk> i'm wondering if http://flagspot.net/flags/xf~q.html on the history of the yellow quarantine flag and its use is an authorative source?
2008-04-16 09:54 < cimon> but of course a vague idea you get after drinking two pints of beer beats as revelation something you have read on wikpedia and forgotten...
2008-04-16 09:55 * cimon kowtows before the whole channel, and abases himself.
2008-04-16 09:56 < cimon> Though I bet there is some ideal way to grid a sphere...
2008-04-16 09:56 < cimon> And no I am not talking about fullerenes
2008-04-16 09:57 < cimon> those are bastards, with pentagrams and hexagrams intermingling
2008-04-16 09:57 < cimon> though of course their tensile strenght is nothing to sneer at
2008-04-16 09:58 < cimon> I think I am talking shit again, why won't anyone pull my arguments apart like a surgeon?
2008-04-16 09:58 < Werdna> laziness
2008-04-16 09:58 < cimon> you mean sloth, don't you?
2008-04-16 10:03 < pvh_sa|wrk> how to keep your vandalism in wikipedia: put it in the references list or somewhere else obscure. sheesh.
2008-04-16 10:13 * Werdna krimps Krimpet
2008-04-16 10:34 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-04-16 10:35 < Lubaf> How's German porn stars of the 1980s?
2008-04-16 10:40 < White_Cat> Lubaf slutty
2008-04-16 10:40 < quanticle> And possibly scary too.
2008-04-16 10:40 < quanticle> Wasn't that the skinhead era?
2008-04-16 10:41 < White_Cat> quanticle what would you know about the 80's?
2008-04-16 10:43 < Lycurgus> no, this is the skinhead era.
2008-04-16 10:44 < Lycurgus> that was just a trailer.
2008-04-16 10:48 < nadis> hi everyone
2008-04-16 10:48 < Lycurgus> yello nadis
2008-04-16 10:49 < nadis> good evening, Lycurgus
2008-04-16 10:49 < nadis> are you free now ?
2008-04-16 10:50 < nadis> i am so eager to talk to somebody
2008-04-16 10:50 < nadis> there is nothing, i just want to practice my english
2008-04-16 10:51 < Lycurgus> okie dokey, I can sympathize with that, I'm learning langs too.
2008-04-16 10:52 < nadis> where are you from then
2008-04-16 10:53 < Lycurgus> Mei Guo.
2008-04-16 10:54 < nadis> oh, really..
2008-04-16 10:54 < nadis> you are totally a Chinese, i meant