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2008-04-15 21:05 < TheWeasel> just would require too many glyphs
2008-04-15 21:05 < quanticle> TheWeasel: How is it so much worse than the 26 glyphs of the Latin alphabet?
2008-04-15 21:05 < denelson83> Just use different symbols for different place values
2008-04-15 21:05 < quanticle> denelson83: How would that help?
2008-04-15 21:05 < denelson83> and duplicate the symbols for different face values
2008-04-15 21:05 < TheWeasel> it's more than twice as much
2008-04-15 21:06 < electrostatic> The only reason base10 makes so much sence to us is because of fingerses
2008-04-15 21:06 < electrostatic> and thumbses
2008-04-15 21:06 < denelson83> fingerses?
2008-04-15 21:06 < denelson83> Hey, you can count to over a thousand just on your ten fingers
2008-04-15 21:06 < electrostatic> Use them like an abicus?
2008-04-15 21:06 < denelson83> No
2008-04-15 21:06 < denelson83> [[finger binary]]
2008-04-15 21:06 < goshzilla^> hah, there's a rude joke I won't make...
2008-04-15 21:07 < electrostatic> ah, binary, yes
2008-04-15 21:07 < denelson83> I'll cuss your ab
2008-04-15 21:07 < TheWeasel> Base twelve is fine.
2008-04-15 21:07 < electrostatic> 0-1024
2008-04-15 21:07 < goshzilla^> base 11 :)
2008-04-15 21:07 < denelson83> no, 0 to 1023
2008-04-15 21:07 < electrostatic> doh, ya
2008-04-15 21:07 < electrostatic> -1023
2008-04-15 21:07 < TheWeasel> I remember Leibniz or someone like that wanting to implement it
2008-04-15 21:07 < denelson83> you'd only use as many symbols as the base value
2008-04-15 21:07 < electrostatic> base pi
2008-04-15 21:07 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Yeah. Base 12 is nice, because 12 can be divided into fourths, thirds, halves and sixths.
2008-04-15 21:07 < TheWeasel> Base eleven would be monumentally useless.
2008-04-15 21:07 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-04-15 21:07 < denelson83> You only need as many glyphs as there are places in the number
2008-04-15 21:07 < goshzilla^> how do you do base π?
2008-04-15 21:07 < TheWeasel> most prime bases save 2 are.
2008-04-15 21:07 < quanticle> electrostatic: I think you can only have whole numbers as your base.
2008-04-15 21:08 < electrostatic> base 11pi would be worse
2008-04-15 21:08 < electrostatic> quanticle: WHo says?
2008-04-15 21:08 < denelson83> I've heard of base golden ratio
2008-04-15 21:08 < electrostatic> radians are base pi
2008-04-15 21:08 < goshzilla^> we got that as a quizbowl question
2008-04-15 21:08 < TheWeasel> base pi?
2008-04-15 21:08 < goshzilla^> oh....
2008-04-15 21:08 < quanticle> electrostatic: Oh that's true, I guess.
2008-04-15 21:08 < TheWeasel> what would the integers of base pi be?
2008-04-15 21:08 < electrostatic> (effectively, at least)
2008-04-15 21:08 < denelson83> [[Golden ratio base]]
2008-04-15 21:08 < TheWeasel> don't bases have to be whole numbers by definition?
2008-04-15 21:08 < quanticle> TheWeasel: It'd work a bit like the radian system, I guess.
2008-04-15 21:09 < electrostatic> I use base 0 to measure non existant multiverses
2008-04-15 21:09 < TheWeasel> because they'd have to be expressed in a single glyph
2008-04-15 21:09 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Yes, for the most part. However, I do think there is a mathematical system for fractional bases, but its a theoretical oddity.
2008-04-15 21:09 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-04-15 21:09 < denelson83> Ah yes... The "ace" rule of numbers
2008-04-15 21:10 < TheWeasel> yay for Arabic numbers
2008-04-15 21:10 < denelson83> numerical glyphs are defined by base value, place value and face value
2008-04-15 21:10 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-04-15 21:10 < electrostatic> Oh, ya, that reminds me...
2008-04-15 21:10 * quanticle out
2008-04-15 21:10 < fale_> on it.wiki there is a guy that is freaking out, but there are no admin online... what I'm supposed to do?
2008-04-15 21:10 < denelson83> Type the ops trigger
2008-04-15 21:10 < electrostatic> People always ask "How the heck could they have used base 60 math back then???"
2008-04-15 21:10 < fale_> the admin arrived :)
2008-04-15 21:10 < Chris_G> what's happening
2008-04-15 21:11 < electrostatic> And I have to remind them, You still do.. dip^*&#
2008-04-15 21:11 < denelson83> heh
2008-04-15 21:11 < electrostatic> It's called a CLOCK
2008-04-15 21:11 < TheWeasel> Before 1973, English people even used combined base 12 and base 20
2008-04-15 21:12 < electrostatic> TheWeasel: lol, they had to... Have you ever seen their currency system back when?
2008-04-15 21:12 < TheWeasel> "costs six and six"
2008-04-15 21:15 < denelson83> SendQ exceeded?
2008-04-15 21:15 < electrostatic> I mean seriously, Britain took over the entire world with nothing more than the cunning use of flags and the ability to rekon chane in twelve dimensions.
2008-04-15 21:16 < denelson83> chane?
2008-04-15 21:16 < electrostatic> change
2008-04-15 21:16 < denelson83> oh
2008-04-15 21:17 < TheWeasel> the vexing vexillogists!
2008-04-15 21:17 < bumm13> hiya Weasel
2008-04-15 21:17 < TheWeasel> oi
2008-04-15 21:17 < denelson83> "vexillology" is an illegal word; it mixes Latin and Greek roots
2008-04-15 21:18 < TheWeasel> fixin'a'go
2008-04-15 21:18 < denelson83> The correct word would be "semaiology"
2008-04-15 21:18 < TheWeasel> Since when is that illegal?
2008-04-15 21:18 < electrostatic> mmm, automobile
2008-04-15 21:18 * TheWeasel gets arrested for breaking the Source Language Uncleanliness Act
2008-04-15 21:18 < bumm13> heh
2008-04-15 21:19 < denelson83> That would be "unimobile"
2008-04-15 21:19 < electrostatic> Double Plus Ungood Word Making.
2008-04-15 21:19 * denelson83 beats electrostatic one thousand nine hundred eighty-four times with the cluestick
2008-04-15 21:19 < SonicAD> so, for a hypothetical
2008-04-15 21:19 < Lucifer_Cat> denelson83: XD
2008-04-15 21:20 < SonicAD> if there ended up being a famous show on Broadway called Help: The Musical
2008-04-15 21:20 < SonicAD> how would it be placed on Wikipedia?
2008-04-15 21:20 < denelson83> hehe
2008-04-15 21:20 < denelson83> Or Wikipedia: The Musical
2008-04-15 21:20 < denelson83> Or User: The Musical
2008-04-15 21:20 < SonicAD> yeah, but Help is slightly more likely :P
2008-04-15 21:20 < denelson83> pleh
2008-04-15 21:20 < SonicAD> though I would be amused to see a Wikipedia musical
2008-04-15 21:21 < Lucifer_Cat> SonicAD: it wouldnt be amusing
2008-04-15 21:21 < Lucifer_Cat> not in the least bit
2008-04-15 21:21 < electrostatic> The troll chorus would rock
2008-04-15 21:21 < SonicAD> "He's Jimbo! (Jimbo!) The creator of alllllllllllll!"
2008-04-15 21:21 < electrostatic> And the vandal invasions
2008-04-15 21:21 < denelson83> ugh
2008-04-15 21:22 < SonicAD> that's it, we need to write a Wikipedia musical
2008-04-15 21:22 < Messedrocker> "?request=get-pdf&file=10.1371_journal.pbio.0060074-L.pdf" << i want to take this statement, and i want what's between "file=" and "_journal" to be a wildcard, and i want what's between "pbio." and ".pdf" to be a wildcard
2008-04-15 21:23 < denelson83> "Some say that he's an eight-bit video game character, and that he once single-handedly salvaged a ship from the Mariana Trench."
2008-04-15 21:23 < electrostatic> And then halfway thorugh act 2 you would have to have everything on stage go "Poof!" and disappear, only to then have a disgruntaled admin come on stage and give a 15 minute diatride on the correct use of multi ethinic linguistic roots before grudgingly unblanking the play.
2008-04-15 21:24 < electrostatic> ... or somthin
2008-04-15 21:25 < denelson83> "All we know is, he's called THE STIG."
2008-04-15 21:29 < electrostatic> I hate it when I am sent impossibly incoherent surfaces and I'm supossed to model them into something that isn't impossibly incoherent
2008-04-15 21:32 < denelson83> And if you've never heard of Top Gear, you don't know who I'm talking about
2008-04-15 21:38 < geniice> electrostatic shere can't go wrong with a sphere
2008-04-15 21:39 < electrostatic> geniice: heh, unfortunatlely these are loft controlled surfaces for an airplane
2008-04-15 21:39 < denelson83> shere?
2008-04-15 21:39 < geniice> ah that can be more problematical
2008-04-15 21:40 < electrostatic> The original release was in 1982, so the data was originally in a point cloud (which I do not have access to), which was late turned into an igs surface (which is dirty as heck)
2008-04-15 21:41 < electrostatic> I get paid to bring it into the 21st century within a few thousnads of an inch.
2008-04-15 21:41 < electrostatic> (It's a nic job)
2008-04-15 21:41 < electrostatic> *nice
2008-04-15 21:43 < electrostatic> But I have to admit I've seen some pretty epic fails along the way.
2008-04-15 21:44 < Lucifer_Cat> Fennec: where are the stats?
2008-04-15 21:49 < quanticle|away> SonicAD: The musical could be written collaboratively, on wiki!
2008-04-15 21:50 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: believe me, bad idea.
2008-04-15 21:50 < quanticle> Lucifer_
2008-04-15 21:50 < quanticle> Cat: Why?
2008-04-15 21:50 < Lucifer_Cat> "A Musical anyone could compose!"
2008-04-15 21:51 < Lucifer_Cat> can*
2008-04-15 21:52 < Lucifer_Cat> i dunno, im just thinking about fights over what tune to use, and then some vandals inserting the rickroll music everywhere
2008-04-15 21:52 < Lucifer_Cat> and an endless discussion over whether chocolate rain and caramelldansen are notable enough to be in the wiki
2008-04-15 21:53 < Lucifer_Cat> and what are we gonna call it? WikiOpera?
2008-04-15 21:53 < Lucifer_Cat> WikiDrama?
2008-04-15 21:53 < Veinor> WikiDrama.
2008-04-15 21:53 < Veinor> Definitely.
2008-04-15 21:53 < Lucifer_Cat> Wikiago?
2008-04-15 21:53 < Lucifer_Cat> AHH WikiCatz!!!
2008-04-15 21:53 < FastLizard4> Wiki Categoriez?
2008-04-15 21:54 * Lucifer_Cat huggles Kif
2008-04-15 21:54 < electrostatic> How about Wiki(THe Name of The Rest of This Work is Disputed.)
2008-04-15 21:55 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, not to mention all the [Plotline Needed] tags
2008-04-15 21:55 * zocky curser sir walter reighly who was such a stupid get
2008-04-15 21:55 < zocky> *curses
2008-04-15 21:55 < Lucifer_Cat> and then someone would want to tag twists as [Deus Ex Weaselia]
2008-04-15 21:55 < electrostatic> And the "Zionist Conspiracy" Act.
2008-04-15 21:56 < quanticle> electrostatic: Heh.
2008-04-15 21:56 < electrostatic> Which will be removed from the final version by Zionist Conspirators... (I mean, it was obviously them, who else would want to get rid of that act???)
2008-04-15 21:56 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: iirc, you are #4 or #5 on the mostactive users stats
2008-04-15 21:56 < quanticle> electrostatic: Don't forget the goatse and tubgirl acts sponsored by the GNAA.
2008-04-15 21:56 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: For what?
2008-04-15 21:57 < Lucifer_Cat> talking in the channel
2008-04-15 21:57 < electrostatic> quanticle: Gah.. BAD visual
2008-04-15 21:57 < Lucifer_Cat> im #3 AND #6 :D
2008-04-15 21:57 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: You keep stats on that?
2008-04-15 21:57 < Lucifer_Cat> Fennec has the link. i cant remember where
2008-04-15 21:57 < quanticle> electrostatic: Its a testament to how long I've been on the internet, that I can see the word goatse without cringing.
2008-04-15 21:57 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: agreed that i dont have a life or friends, but im not THAT jobless
2008-04-15 21:58 < Messedrocker> quanticle, i can stare deep into the rectum of goatse without cringing
2008-04-15 21:58 < Messedrocker> and i was always able to.
2008-04-15 21:58 < Messedrocker> it's like i'm a doctor
2008-04-15 21:58 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: messed up
2008-04-15 21:58 < quanticle> Messedrocker: My friend is inured enought to notice that the goatse guy is wearing a wedding ring.
2008-04-15 21:58 < Lucifer_Cat> we should put that stat link in the topic.
2008-04-15 21:58 < quanticle> Yeah.
2008-04-15 21:58 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: lol
2008-04-15 21:59 < Lucifer_Cat> also, the stat inferred that HumbertHumbert guy was dumb
2008-04-15 21:59 < Lucifer_Cat> and that Ceiling_Cat was much hated
2008-04-15 22:00 < Lucifer_Cat> plus a whole bunch of others
2008-04-15 22:01 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: How do you infer that from stats on how often people talk?
2008-04-15 22:01 < Fennec> stats.fennecfoxen.org/freenode/somethignsomethiong?
2008-04-15 22:01 < Lucifer_Cat> thats not clickable Fennec
2008-04-15 22:01 < Fennec> http://stats.fennecfoxen.org/freenode/wikipedia.html
2008-04-15 22:01 < Lucifer_Cat> \o/ thanks
2008-04-15 22:01 * Lucifer_Cat huggles Fennec without claws
2008-04-15 22:02 < Fennec> my stats are working again, but not automatically, so it's not all done
2008-04-15 22:02 < Lucifer_Cat> ok im #2 AND #6
2008-04-15 22:02 < Fennec> I'll have to see about setting up spiffier thingies... oh, probably Thursday
2008-04-15 22:03 < Fennec> Wednesday morning I drive in to work earlier-than-usual so I can leave earlier-than-usual for a harp lesson
2008-04-15 22:03 < Lucifer_Cat> Lucifer_Cat can't control his/her aggressions, either. He/She picked on others 4 times.
2008-04-15 22:03 < Fennec> gasp! 4 times!
2008-04-15 22:03 < Lucifer_Cat> Poor Ceiling_Cat, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 5 times.
2008-04-15 22:03 < Lucifer_Cat> Fennec: its in the name :D
2008-04-15 22:04 < Lucifer_Cat> bestquote: "I am Cyrius Cat, this is cyrius channel"
2008-04-15 22:04 < Golbez> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W63WG-KuoqE rofl, this is amazing (not a rickroll; it's the WoW version of the famous Bravia "throwing 250,000 rubber balls at San Francisco" advertisement)
2008-04-15 22:05 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern spoke a total of 29109 words!
2008-04-15 22:05 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern's faithful follower, Lucifer_Cat, didn't speak so much: 18660 words.
2008-04-15 22:05 < Lucifer_Cat> heh heh i like how im featured twice in most stats
2008-04-15 22:08 < Lucifer_Cat> Fennec: keep some stat on how many times someone is a chatkill
2008-04-15 22:08 < Golbez> So the world changed today. what was perversion yesterday is accepted mainstream today.
2008-04-15 22:08 < Golbez> I speak of course of the 18th birthday of one Emma Watson.
2008-04-15 22:08 < Golbez> oshi am i gonna be labelled a wikipedo now
2008-04-15 22:09 < Lucifer_Cat> Golbez: ooooo hot. lets tap that ass.
2008-04-15 22:09 < Golbez> (since 2002, someone on SA has had her photo with the brightly flashing words "APRIL 15 2008" as their avatar; it was drilled into my head for years, so it's not MY fault i notice these things. :P )
2008-04-15 22:09 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-04-15 22:09 < goshzilla^> SA?
2008-04-15 22:09 < Golbez> somethingawful
2008-04-15 22:09 < goshzilla^> ah
2008-04-15 22:10 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle is the most often intentionally referenced nick
2008-04-15 22:10 < Lucifer_Cat> oh DAMN i missed by TWO
2008-04-15 22:10 < Lucifer_Cat> ofcourse Lucifer_Cat + Working_Cat would be a winner :P
2008-04-15 22:12 < goshzilla^> Lucifer_Cat: are you now tied?
2008-04-15 22:12 < Lucifer_Cat> tied?
2008-04-15 22:12 < goshzilla^> if... you were down by 2
2008-04-15 22:12 < Lucifer_Cat> oh well, no i dont think it updated every seconf.
2008-04-15 22:12 < goshzilla^> or is this for the past
2008-04-15 22:12 < goshzilla^> ok
2008-04-15 22:12 < goshzilla^> :)
2008-04-15 22:12 < Lucifer_Cat> also, im not aiming for a win :F
2008-04-15 22:13 < Lucifer_Cat> :D
2008-04-15 22:13 < Lucifer_Cat> if my employer sees those stats, hes gonna kill me ;)
2008-04-15 22:13 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: You're number 2 on the list of most active users.
2008-04-15 22:13 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I'm number 3
2008-04-15 22:13 < Lucifer_Cat> and my alter ego is 6th
2008-04-15 22:14 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: theres other categories where are are like neck to neck
2008-04-15 22:14 < Lucifer_Cat> *where we are
2008-04-15 22:14 < Lucifer_Cat> i need food. brb.
2008-04-15 22:16 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Heh. We're also 2 and 3 on most referenced nicks.
2008-04-15 22:18 < Krimpet> hmm, I need to make it my goal to reach #1 for percentage of foul language
2008-04-15 22:19 < Lucifer_Cat> Krimpet: talk dirty
2008-04-15 22:19 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: actually, #1 and #2
2008-04-15 22:20 < Lucifer_Cat> SynergeticMag talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 35 times!
2008-04-15 22:20 < Lucifer_Cat> 35! wtf
2008-04-15 22:20 < Fennec> sounds like pastespam
2008-04-15 22:20 < zocky> damn, I'm always in top 20, but never mentioned otherwise
2008-04-15 22:20 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I guess Have doesn't count, does it.
2008-04-15 22:20 < zocky> that makes me SOOO average
2008-04-15 22:20 < Lucifer_Cat> nope
2008-04-15 22:21 < zocky> vaguerant used to be the constant winner in that category
2008-04-15 22:22 < zocky> but he hasn't been around much since last year's channel putsch
2008-04-15 22:22 < quanticle> zocky: Which category?
2008-04-15 22:22 < Krimpet> I'm disappointed, though, that goatse isn't in the most referenced urls anymore <_<
2008-04-15 22:22 < zocky> "talks to himself a lot"
2008-04-15 22:22 < Lucifer_Cat> putsch?
2008-04-15 22:22 < Lucifer_Cat> ok
2008-04-15 22:22 < quanticle> zocky: Channel putsch?
2008-04-15 22:23 < Lucifer_Cat> it ignored my 50 line rant
2008-04-15 22:23 < quanticle> zocky: Did he try to lead a revolt or something?
2008-04-15 22:24 < zocky> quanticle, no, we had a thing last year when mark was away for a time, and some people thought they have the mandate to boss everybody else around
2008-04-15 22:24 < Mike> alguém aqui fala minha língua ?
2008-04-15 22:25 < Lucifer_Cat> mark?
2008-04-15 22:25 < zocky> Mike, #wikipedia-pt
2008-04-15 22:25 < zocky> mark ryan, the daddy of the channel
2008-04-15 22:25 < Mike> grato!
2008-04-15 22:25 < Lucifer_Cat> ok
2008-04-15 22:26 < Lucifer_Cat> just making sure :P
2008-04-15 22:26 < quanticle> zocky: So this vaguerant was an op?
2008-04-15 22:26 < Ceiling_Cat> MAOR KATZ?
2008-04-15 22:27 < zocky> dunno, possibly
2008-04-15 22:28 < zocky> quanticle, the "new administration" purged the op list, and I never really followed who's an op and who isn't before that
2008-04-15 22:28 < bumm13> Vague Rant was never an op
2008-04-15 22:28 < zocky> good thing we have bumm. he knows everything :)
2008-04-15 22:28 < Mike_H> zocky: I don't think he was an op
2008-04-15 22:29 < Mike_H> I miss vaguerant
2008-04-15 22:29 < zocky> anyway, anybody seen him lately?
2008-04-15 22:29 < zocky> yeah, he was fun
2008-04-15 22:29 < bumm13> nope
2008-04-15 22:29 < Mike_H> zocky: He was on IRC a month ago
2008-04-15 22:29 < Mike_H> for like
2008-04-15 22:29 < Mike_H> five minutes
2008-04-15 22:29 < Mike_H> and left again
2008-04-15 22:29 < bumm13> really?
2008-04-15 22:29 < Mike_H> yeah, I got here too late
2008-04-15 22:29 < Veinor> man I missed a lot of stuff I guess
2008-04-15 22:29 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: http://stats.fennecfoxen.org/freenode/wikipedia.html
2008-04-15 22:30 < bumm13> "last seen 51 weeks 3 days"
2008-04-15 22:30 < Mike_H> bumm13: he was here
2008-04-15 22:30 < Mike_H> I told you.
2008-04-15 22:30 < bumm13> (under that nick)
2008-04-15 22:30 < Lucifer_Cat> yay almost a year!
2008-04-15 22:30 < Mike_H> maybe it was vague_rant
2008-04-15 22:30 < bumm13> IRC is case-insensitive
2008-04-15 22:30 < Mike_H> _
2008-04-15 22:30 < Mike_H> ?
2008-04-15 22:30 * bumm13 added the underscore :)
2008-04-15 22:30 < Mike_H> then IRC is stupid
2008-04-15 22:30 < bumm13> heh
2008-04-15 22:30 < Mike_H> try vaguerant
2008-04-15 22:31 < bumm13> okie
2008-04-15 22:31 < Lucifer_Cat> ironically, people on IRC are insensitive
2008-04-15 22:31 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: shut up
2008-04-15 22:31 < Fennec> brains are largely case-insensitive so it makes sense for IRC, a brain-oriented medium, to be that way too
2008-04-15 22:31 < bumm13> that worked
2008-04-15 22:31 < Lucifer_Cat> :(
2008-04-15 22:31 < bumm13> "2 days (13h 36m 39s) ago"
2008-04-15 22:31 < Mike_H> oh, then it wasn't even a month ago
2008-04-15 22:31 * Mike_H pets Lucifer_Cat
2008-04-15 22:31 < zocky> maybe he just ignores this channel
2008-04-15 22:31 < bumm13> days, months, it's almost a blur to me anymore
2008-04-15 22:31 * Lucifer_Cat purrrs
2008-04-15 22:32 * Ceiling_Cat shaves Lucifer_Cat, cuddles him
2008-04-15 22:32 < Mike_H> Anyone know what Westwood One is here?
2008-04-15 22:32 < bumm13> a radio network
2008-04-15 22:32 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: waxing would work better
2008-04-15 22:32 < bumm13> owned by NBC, IIRC
2008-04-15 22:32 < Mike_H> bumm13: and I'm working for them now :DDDDD
2008-04-15 22:32 < bumm13> cool :)
2008-04-15 22:33 < Mike_H> bumm13: they aren't owned by anyone anymore
2008-04-15 22:33 < Mike_H> but when they were
2008-04-15 22:33 < Messedrocker> when one does "> somefile" with multiple commands, does that annotate to the file or not?
2008-04-15 22:33 < Mike_H> it was CBS
2008-04-15 22:33 < bumm13> ah, ok
2008-04-15 22:33 < bumm13> but yes, radio network
2008-04-15 22:33 < zocky> Messedrocker, are you sure you asked that right?
2008-04-15 22:33 < Leslie_S> TRACTOR PROTECTION VALVE - PULL OFF
2008-04-15 22:33 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-04-15 22:33 < Mike_H> bumm13: I work for them :D
2008-04-15 22:33 < Mike_H> or, I will be
2008-04-15 22:33 < Mike_H> after I talk over my experience and my resume with the guy who wants to hire me
2008-04-15 22:33 < bumm13> congrats
2008-04-15 22:34 < zocky> Messedrocker, you mean "foo; bar; baz >somefile" in unix?
2008-04-15 22:34 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-04-15 22:34 < Messedrocker> and when you do that with multiple commands, will somefile be added to?
2008-04-15 22:34 < Messedrocker> or will there be a new somefile each time?
2008-04-15 22:34 < zocky> Messedrocker, ah, new file each time
2008-04-15 22:34 < zocky> Messedrocker, you want >>
2008-04-15 22:35 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-pictures-sarcastic-hairless-cat.jpg
2008-04-15 22:35 < Messedrocker> >> lumps them by each other in the same file?
2008-04-15 22:35 < zocky> Messedrocker, IIRC
2008-04-15 22:35 < Lucifer_Cat> rofl
2008-04-15 22:35 < Messedrocker> does it do a newline between entries, zocky?
2008-04-15 22:35 < Lucifer_Cat> im kinda like that. but black and with fangs
2008-04-15 22:35 * Lucifer_Cat huggles Ceiling_Cat with his claws
2008-04-15 22:35 < Messedrocker> Lucifer is a black cat? My cat Lucky finds such a statement to be racist.
2008-04-15 22:36 < zocky> Messedrocker, dunno, probably not.
2008-04-15 22:36 < Lucifer_Cat> Messedrocker: ask your Lucky to go pug himself
2008-04-15 22:36 * Ceiling_Cat enjoys a good cuddle
2008-04-15 22:37 < zocky> Messedrocker, so, you want " foo >log.txt; bar >>log.txt; baz >>log.txt"
2008-04-15 22:38 < Lucifer_Cat> whats a good blog to read?
2008-04-15 22:41 < Messedrocker> Voice of Resolution
2008-04-15 22:47 * denelson83 's Firefox crashes again
2008-04-15 22:47 < bumm13> arg
2008-04-15 22:47 < Lucifer_Cat> denelson83: the trick is in setting it to keep the tabs and restarting it often
2008-04-15 22:48 < ijustam> i never liked that restart with tabs
2008-04-15 22:52 < Leslie_S> you know what bugs me?
2008-04-15 22:52 < Leslie_S> firefox on windows is awesome. firefox on linux tends to suck
2008-04-15 22:52 < Leslie_S> total opposite of everything ;/
2008-04-15 22:52 < Lucifer_Cat> ijustam: yeah, it has the murphy's certainity of popping up embarassing tabs when someones looking
2008-04-15 22:55 < ijustam> firefox + linux = suck?
2008-04-15 22:55 < ijustam> explain yourself
2008-04-15 22:55 < Lucifer_Cat> ijustam: she has a point
2008-04-15 22:55 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Really? How does Firefox on Linux suck anymore than Firefox on Windows?
2008-04-15 22:56 < Krimpet> firefox works fine for me on ubuntu
2008-04-15 22:56 < quanticle> Yeah. I have no issues with Firefox on Fedora.
2008-04-15 22:56 < ijustam> i too am on ubuntu and it's fine
2008-04-15 22:56 < Lucifer_Cat> buzzkills both of you
2008-04-15 22:57 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: You mean all three of us. Krimpet and ijustam are with me.
2008-04-15 22:57 < Krimpet> the only problem I've found is that it sometimes freezes up if I switch GNOME themes, but I don't do that very often. :)
2008-04-15 22:57 < zocky> it does seem generally slower for me on linux
2008-04-15 22:57 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: there was a chance atleast that we could have messed with him
2008-04-15 22:57 < zocky> might be because of firebug
2008-04-15 22:57 < quanticle> zocky: Firebug does tend to slow things down.
2008-04-15 22:58 < ijustam> beats opera
2008-04-15 22:58 < ijustam> opera has its own set of funky widgets
2008-04-15 22:58 < zocky> also, it freezes more often on linux than on windows in my experience
2008-04-15 22:58 < quanticle> ijustam: I could never get flash to work properly in Opera on Linux.
2008-04-15 22:58 < zocky> but meh, windows sucks in so many other ways
2008-04-15 22:58 < ijustam> i doubt i did either
2008-04-15 22:58 < ijustam> i just used it for CSS testing
2008-04-15 22:58 < ijustam> then i realized i hate CSS
2008-04-15 22:58 < quanticle> ijustam: MPlayerplug-in doesn't work in Opera either.
2008-04-15 22:59 < bumm13> I've had good luck running Firefox on Win32
2008-04-15 22:59 < ijustam> mplayer works funny for me on firefox
2008-04-15 22:59 * bumm13 is one of those weirdo Opera fans
2008-04-15 22:59 < ijustam> so i just copy the source and wget
2008-04-15 22:59 < quanticle> ijustam: Funny how?
2008-04-15 22:59 < ijustam> sometimes it doesn't work
2008-04-15 22:59 < Mark_Ryan> bumm13, I like Opera too.
2008-04-15 22:59 < quanticle> ijustam: Ah. I get that too.
2008-04-15 22:59 < ijustam> i stopped caring
2008-04-15 23:00 < ijustam> instead i prefer flash video
2008-04-15 23:00 < ijustam> also i never got java working
2008-04-15 23:00 < ijustam> but i consider that a blessing
2008-04-15 23:00 < quanticle> ijustam: I just copy the source and play it with the command line.
2008-04-15 23:00 < ijustam> quanticle: same
2008-04-15 23:00 < quanticle> ijustam: What distro?
2008-04-15 23:00 < ijustam> ubuntu gutsy
2008-04-15 23:00 < Krimpet> Java works fine for me on gutsy
2008-04-15 23:00 < Lucifer_Cat> heh heh, i started using Opera as an IE/Netscape alternative so that my porn sites would not show up in url history.. constant clearing of history would ofcourse have raised suspictions
2008-04-15 23:01 < ijustam> java as a runtime environment is fine
2008-04-15 23:01 < ijustam> but the browser plugin doesnt work
2008-04-15 23:01 < ijustam> but i cant stand java applets
2008-04-15 23:01 < Krimpet> the key is to rip out the crappy GNU JVM and install Sun's
2008-04-15 23:01 < ijustam> yeah, i think i did that
2008-04-15 23:01 < quanticle> ijustam: Sudo update-alternative --java didn't work?
2008-04-15 23:01 < ijustam> <ijustam> but i cant stand java applets
2008-04-15 23:01 < ijustam> hence me not wanting to fix it :p
2008-04-15 23:02 < quanticle> Ah. Ok.
2008-04-15 23:02 < ijustam> if i need a java applet, i go to my windows computer (dun dun dun)
2008-04-15 23:03 < quanticle> ijustam: Now is probably not a good time to mention that I do Java programming for a living, is it? :)
2008-04-15 23:03 < ijustam> dont remind me about java programming
2008-04-15 23:03 < ijustam> thats going to be my life next semester
2008-04-15 23:03 < ijustam> :/
2008-04-15 23:04 < quanticle> ijustam: Taking a course in software engineering or something?
2008-04-15 23:04 < ijustam> intro to cs :/
2008-04-15 23:04 < ijustam> which is taught with java
2008-04-15 23:04 < quanticle> ijustam: Ah. That's also a likely class for Java.
2008-04-15 23:05 < zocky> "None of this explains how the human eye could just 'evolve' on its own by accident. No one has attempted to explain this (or if they have then I've made no effort to read about it)."
2008-04-15 23:06 < ijustam> :/
2008-04-15 23:06 < quanticle> zocky: Except for the fact that they have.
2008-04-15 23:06 < quanticle> zocky: Lots of animals have primitive eye-like photosensitive structures.
2008-04-15 23:06 < zocky> quanticle, read the whole sentence. the guy was being sarcastic.
2008-04-15 23:06 < ijustam> some fish just have little cells that see light
2008-04-15 23:06 < ijustam> no detail
2008-04-15 23:06 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-04-15 23:07 < Leslie_S> uhm
2008-04-15 23:07 < quanticle> zocky: Reading comprehension is for losers! :)
2008-04-15 23:07 < Leslie_S> Fish dont have eyes?
2008-04-15 23:07 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Cave fish don't.
2008-04-15 23:07 < Leslie_S> oh.
2008-04-15 23:07 < Lucifer_Cat> Leslie_S: "some"
2008-04-15 23:07 < Leslie_S> Because like, i just had a fish that died, and was blind before it died.
2008-04-15 23:07 < Leslie_S> and .....its pretty obvious when theyre blind. :o
2008-04-15 23:07 < Lucifer_Cat> it died :(
2008-04-15 23:07 < Leslie_S> it would have been kind of cool if it lived though, and i had a blind fish
2008-04-15 23:07 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Don't fish mainly find food by scent?
2008-04-15 23:07 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-04-15 23:07 < zocky> Leslie_S, it's also obvious when they have eyes :)
2008-04-15 23:07 < Leslie_S> quanticle Not goldfish.
2008-04-15 23:08 < Leslie_S> zocky it had eyes, just didnt work
2008-04-15 23:08 < Leslie_S> quanticle look, i even quarantined it, mostly to give it a chance to be able to eat (the other fish can obviously find food faster)
2008-04-15 23:08 < Leslie_S> it wouldnt eat until the food hit it in the face.
2008-04-15 23:09 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Ah. Ok.
2008-04-15 23:09 * quanticle is not an expert on fish biology
2008-04-15 23:09 < bumm13> >(,')
2008-04-15 23:09 < Leslie_S> quanticle me either, but i own an aquarium.
2008-04-15 23:09 < bumm13> >(, ) <--- cave and deep ocean
2008-04-15 23:09 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Me too. :)
2008-04-15 23:09 < quanticle> bumm13: Heh.
2008-04-15 23:09 < Leslie_S> quanticle and my fish food sure does stink.
2008-04-15 23:10 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Really? I don't notice much of a scent from mine. What kind of fish do you keep?
2008-04-15 23:11 < Leslie_S> quanticle right now, one calico fantail and one tiger barb....im going to buy a school of tiger barbs soon though, so they leave the goldfish alone
2008-04-15 23:11 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-04-15 23:11 < Leslie_S> i didnt realize they were schooling fish when i bought it
2008-04-15 23:11 < Leslie_S> and i use tetramin tropical flakes, and i used to use wardley goldfish floating pellets, but theyre too big for the tigerbarbs mouth..
2008-04-15 23:12 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Ah. Ok. I just have two goldfish and a black moor.
2008-04-15 23:12 < quanticle> Leslie_S: They get along just fine with one another.
2008-04-15 23:12 < quanticle> I use goldfish flakes.
2008-04-15 23:14 < Leslie_S> quanticle black moors are a type of goldfish, by the way.
2008-04-15 23:15 < zocky> hehe, during the dover evolution trial: "In May 2005, the publisher of Of Pandas and People, the Foundation for Thought and Ethics (FTE), filed a motion seeking to intervene in the case. FTE argued that a ruling that "intelligent design" was religious would have severe financial consequences, citing possible losses of approximately half a million dollars."
2008-04-15 23:15 < Leslie_S> quanticle i had two black moors, theyre cool, but they both died. one got killed by a deer and one got popeye, which wasnt noticed until soon before it died, because of the way their eyes are (theyre huge anyway)
2008-04-15 23:16 < zocky> so, if a legal ruling that what I'm claiming is bollocks will have severe financial consequences for me, i have the right to object?
2008-04-15 23:16 < Leslie_S> zocky thats what appeals are for
2008-04-15 23:17 < zocky> "your honour, you can't make this ruling, because if you rule that diana wasn't murdered by MI5, my book will stop selling."
2008-04-15 23:19 < quanticle> Leslie_S: How did a deer kill your black moor?
2008-04-15 23:21 < Ceiling_Cat> ok, I have a stupid question
2008-04-15 23:21 < Ceiling_Cat> 37:42.84 <-- this is 37 minutes and 42.84 seconds, right?
2008-04-15 23:21 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: There are no stupid questions. Only stupid users.
2008-04-15 23:21 < quanticle> Yep.
2008-04-15 23:21 < cimon> what other kind do you have :D
2008-04-15 23:21 < quanticle> cimon: Dead users.
2008-04-15 23:22 < cimon> 42 sixtieths of a minute and 84 6000ths of a minute
2008-04-15 23:23 < quanticle> Is it just me or is our handling of time entirely screwed up? Time is one of the few quantities that has multiple base measurement systems still in effect.
2008-04-15 23:23 < cimon> quanticle, you need to accelerate the earth and the moon to get them metric...
2008-04-15 23:24 < Veinor> quanticle: what do you mean?
2008-04-15 23:25 < Pilotguy> Lucifer_Cat: What's your wikipedia username?
2008-04-15 23:25 < quanticle> We use base ten for units of less than one second, base sixty for seconds, and minutes, base twelve for hours, base thirty for days, and base twelve again for months.
2008-04-15 23:25 < cimon> quanticle, you get up with the sun, or you look very ridiculous conducting regular business during the night, very quick.
2008-04-15 23:25 < quanticle> cimon: Stupid diurnal cycle :)
2008-04-15 23:25 < Lucifer_Cat> Pilotguy: what did i do now?
2008-04-15 23:25 < Lucifer_Cat> LuciferTiger
2008-04-15 23:25 < Pilotguy> ok
2008-04-15 23:25 < Leslie_S> quanticle the fish was in the car when i almost hit a deer
2008-04-15 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> Pilotguy: whatever it is, i didnt do it
2008-04-15 23:26 < Leslie_S> WTF? In australia, semis can be up to 175 feet long
2008-04-15 23:26 < Pilotguy> ok :)
2008-04-15 23:26 < Leslie_S> god damn.
2008-04-15 23:26 < Leslie_S> I knew about road trains, but 175 feet?
2008-04-15 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> Theyre LYING! THEYRE TRYING TO FRAME ME.
2008-04-15 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> Pilotguy: the noodle incident was not my fault
2008-04-15 23:26 * Pilotguy nods
2008-04-15 23:27 * Pilotguy waits for thedj to play him a song
2008-04-15 23:29 * Mike_H plays Pilotguy "Music" by Madonna
2008-04-15 23:29 < Mike_H> Hey, Mr. DJ
2008-04-15 23:29 < Mike_H> put a record on
2008-04-15 23:29 < Mike_H> I wanna dance with my baby
2008-04-15 23:29 < cimon> Turn the music up.
2008-04-15 23:30 < cimon> Pon de replay
2008-04-15 23:30 < cimon> When the sun comes up on Santa Monica Boulevard.
2008-04-15 23:31 < cimon> There was a house In New Orleans
2008-04-15 23:31 < cimon> Don't take your guns to town.
2008-04-15 23:31 < Mike_H> cimon: Gotta find my baby, gonna hold her tight, gonna grab some afternoon delight
2008-04-15 23:32 < cimon> Going to Jackson.
2008-04-15 23:32 < Mike_H> If you change your MIND...I'm the first IN LINE
2008-04-15 23:32 < cimon> lol
2008-04-15 23:32 < Mike_H> I win :DD
2008-04-15 23:33 < Lucifer_Cat> how?
2008-04-15 23:33 < cimon> got a responce
2008-04-15 23:33 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: that song lyric made him lawl
2008-04-15 23:33 < Lucifer_Cat> lol ok
2008-04-15 23:33 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: Do you even know what song that's from?
2008-04-15 23:33 < Mike_H> and from whom?
2008-04-15 23:33 < Lucifer_Cat> :S
2008-04-15 23:33 < zocky> honey I'm still free
2008-04-15 23:34 < Lucifer_Cat> no
2008-04-15 23:34 < ijustam> i beat crisis core earlier
2008-04-15 23:34 < ijustam> it was sad
2008-04-15 23:34 < ijustam> :/
2008-04-15 23:34 < Mike_H> zocky: ____ _ ______ __ __
2008-04-15 23:34 < zocky> gonna do my very best and it ain't no lie
2008-04-15 23:35 < zocky> that was probably one of the biggest hits of the 70s
2008-04-15 23:35 < Mike_H> zocky: It was the biggest single they had in the US, even though it wasn't their highest-charting.
2008-04-15 23:35 < cimon> Mike_H, you most likely don't know what made me lol, but that is for the best, I think...
2008-04-15 23:35 < Mike_H> cimon: :(
2008-04-15 23:35 < bumm13> whose single?
2008-04-15 23:35 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuB8xWeA59I
2008-04-15 23:35 < Mike_H> bumm13: ^^
2008-04-15 23:35 < cimon> Mike_H: seriously, there is some deep shite behind that...
2008-04-15 23:36 < Mike_H> zocky: Take a Chance on Me sold more copies than Dancing Queen
2008-04-15 23:36 < cimon> Mike_H: I can link you to the source in PM, but don't say I didn't warn you...
2008-04-15 23:36 < Mike_H> despite ranking lower on the charts
2008-04-15 23:36 < bumm13> (oh, ABBA)
2008-04-15 23:36 < zocky> man, agnetha was so damn cute
2008-04-15 23:36 * Lucifer_Cat facepalms...wow i heard that one a long time ago
2008-04-15 23:36 < Mike_H> (#3 as opposed to #1)
2008-04-15 23:37 < Mike_H> zocky: Why did she have to marry the ugly one?
2008-04-15 23:37 < Mike_H> That's what I never got
2008-04-15 23:37 < Mike_H> Agnetha was the pretty one
2008-04-15 23:37 < Mike_H> but she was stuck with the ugly guy
2008-04-15 23:37 * Lucifer_Cat thanks Mike_H for the music, for bringing it to him
2008-04-15 23:37 < Rinn> "Agnetha?"
2008-04-15 23:37 < zocky> Mike_H, women don't mind ugly
2008-04-15 23:37 * zocky knocks on wood
2008-04-15 23:37 < Mike_H> Rinn: They were Swedish.
2008-04-15 23:37 < cimon> Mike_H, I would have shagged either of the ABBA women, but only with a bag over their heads...
2008-04-15 23:38 < cimon> Nice bodies though.
2008-04-15 23:38 < zocky> nah, they both had nice enough faces
2008-04-15 23:38 < zocky> they just tended to have awful hair, especially frida
2008-04-15 23:38 < Lucifer_Cat> cimon: Does your mother know that ure perv?
2008-04-15 23:39 < Mike_H> zocky: Oh, God, Frida rocked the perm before it was popular
2008-04-15 23:39 < cimon> Lucifer_Cat, yes, my mom once asked a British Boyfriend of his, if he would like to borrow some of my toys...
2008-04-15 23:39 < Lucifer_Cat> >_<
2008-04-15 23:40 < Mike_H> zocky: You know who Agnetha kind of reminded me of?
2008-04-15 23:40 < Mike_H> A blonde Kate Jackson
2008-04-15 23:41 < zocky> was kate jackson in anything I'm likely to have seen?
2008-04-15 23:41 < Mike_H> zocky: She was Sabrina
2008-04-15 23:41 < Mike_H> in Charlie's Angels
2008-04-15 23:41 < zocky> i see she was in charlie's angels, but I never watched that
2008-04-15 23:42 < zocky> i don't think it was ever shown here
2008-04-15 23:42 < Ceiling_Cat> LOL
2008-04-15 23:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Stephen Colbert was at the liberty bell
2008-04-15 23:42 < Lucifer_Cat> heh, Mellisa Joan Hart... i wonder what shes doing these days
2008-04-15 23:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Can I lick it?
2008-04-15 23:42 < Ceiling_Cat> No
2008-04-15 23:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Please?
2008-04-15 23:42 < Ceiling_Cat> No
2008-04-15 23:42 < Mike_H> zocky: How much Western programming was even shown during Tito's Yugoslavia anyway?
2008-04-15 23:42 < zocky> Mike_H, a lot
2008-04-15 23:43 < Ceiling_Cat> "From one patriot to another, I'm asking you - let me tongue the crack of liberty"
2008-04-15 23:43 < Mike_H> zocky: like what?
2008-04-15 23:43 < Ceiling_Cat> Uh.... no
2008-04-15 23:43 * Krimpet touched the liberty bell before - it can't be long ago that they stopped letting people touch it
2008-04-15 23:43 < zocky> Mike_H, everything, from movies and documentaries to dynasty
2008-04-15 23:43 < Lucifer_Cat> Krimpet: hes talkin bout licking
2008-04-15 23:43 * Ceiling_Cat cuddles with Krimpet
2008-04-15 23:43 < Fennec> Colbert is a nutcase
2008-04-15 23:43 < Fennec> >.>
2008-04-15 23:43 < Lucifer_Cat> unless you touch everything bt tongue
2008-04-15 23:43 < Mike_H> zocky: I keep forgetting that Yugoslavia was probably the most progressive of the Eastern Bloc
2008-04-15 23:44 < Mike_H> and we don't need to get into another discussion about how Yugoslavia was technically not the Eastern Bloc
2008-04-15 23:44 < Mike_H> it's just an American way of saying "communist country in that part of Europe"
2008-04-15 23:44 < Lucifer_Cat> Mike_H: if what i;ve heard is right, TIto was a nice guy
2008-04-15 23:44 < Fennec> who's being technical? >.>
2008-04-15 23:44 < zocky> Mike_H, one of the first movies I remember seeing on TV was rollerball
2008-04-15 23:44 < Fennec> zocky: my condolences
2008-04-15 23:44 < Lucifer_Cat> wasnt Tito one of the non-aligned guys?
2008-04-15 23:44 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: After a certain time period, yes
2008-04-15 23:44 < zocky> Lucifer_Cat, yeah
2008-04-15 23:45 < zocky> Fennec, it's not THAT bad :)
2008-04-15 23:45 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: Yugoslavia was probably one of the countries we heard the least about during the Cold War
2008-04-15 23:45 * Ceiling_Cat is running benchmarks
2008-04-15 23:45 < Mike_H> only marginally ahead of Albania
2008-04-15 23:45 < Mike_H> which was the biggest secret.
2008-04-15 23:45 * Ceiling_Cat is in ur supercomputer, benchmarking ur programs
2008-04-15 23:45 < zocky> albania was seriously fucked up
2008-04-15 23:45 < zocky> still is, for different reasons
2008-04-15 23:45 < bumm13> Albania seems to have it rough
2008-04-15 23:46 < zocky> anyway, they had more bunkers than people
2008-04-15 23:46 < Mike_H> zocky: Well, as I said before, unless you were East Germany or the Soviet Union, America didn't hear a lot about the other countries unless there was bloodshed or a crushed uprising
2008-04-15 23:46 < zocky> their government was seriously paranoid
2008-04-15 23:47 < Mike_H> My European History teacher mistakenly taught me that Austria was in the Eastern Bloc.
2008-04-15 23:47 < Mike_H> That's how sketchy we are on "those other countries."
2008-04-15 23:47 < bumm13> arg
2008-04-15 23:47 < zocky> Mike_H, yeah, even russians who know live in US tell me they were much better informed about the west than the west was informed about russia
2008-04-15 23:47 < zocky> *now
2008-04-15 23:47 < NedScott> I'm trying to brain storm some ideas for a to-do list template
2008-04-15 23:48 < NedScott> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ned_Scott/sandbox5
2008-04-15 23:48 < NedScott> but I think I might be trying to reinvent the wheel
2008-04-15 23:48 < NedScott> as in, someone else has probably had the same ideas
2008-04-15 23:48 < DannyLilithborne> other countries' propaganda = misinformation
2008-04-15 23:48 < DannyLilithborne> American propaganda = no information
2008-04-15 23:49 < cimon> Fennec, Admit it, Colbert has made you chuckle at least once.
2008-04-15 23:49 < Fennec> cimon: true. however, he is still a nut.
2008-04-15 23:49 < zocky> at least here, and at least since the 1960s, there wasn't much misinformation
2008-04-15 23:50 < Fennec> that is, of course, why his show is so successful
2008-04-15 23:50 < zocky> it was more about how things were explained
2008-04-15 23:50 < NedScott> if only there was a way to make the todo list check and uncheck in a more intuitive manner
2008-04-15 23:50 < zocky> i.e. presumptions about intentions
2008-04-15 23:50 < DannyLilithborne> I love nuts
2008-04-15 23:50 < cimon> Fennec, right, a nut that has not cracked himself.
2008-04-15 23:51 < DannyLilithborne> zocky: here in America?
2008-04-15 23:51 < DannyLilithborne> yes, there's not too much misinformation. problem is most people don't care :(
2008-04-15 23:51 < zocky> DannyLilithborne, here, slovenia, then yugoslavia
2008-04-15 23:52 < zocky> NedScott, mediawiki needs some new features
2008-04-15 23:52 < DannyLilithborne> wasn't there a time when you were required to know a certain amount of information to be a citizen?
2008-04-15 23:52 < DannyLilithborne> or is that only immigrants now?
2008-04-15 23:52 < Fennec> it was always only-immigrants