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2008-04-13 02:07 < White_Cat> denelson83 yes
2008-04-13 02:07 < notagerbil> is it vanity to include myself as a prop
2008-04-13 02:07 < White_Cat> that is another issue bots cant deal with
2008-04-13 02:08 < notagerbil> in a photo I use on wikipedia?
2008-04-13 02:08 < White_Cat> denelson83 are the edits manually done or via a bot?
2008-04-13 02:08 < denelson83> Manually
2008-04-13 02:09 < White_Cat> k
2008-04-13 02:09 < denelson83> But "blitz edit" means changes to all articles are saved *at the same time*
2008-04-13 02:09 < White_Cat> ah
2008-04-13 02:09 < White_Cat> ok
2008-04-13 02:09 < notagerbil> What constitutes vanity in terms of photo use?
2008-04-13 02:10 < denelson83> It appears the CommonsDelinker declaration has been nullified
2008-04-13 02:11 < denelson83> I am unable to remove six remaining links to Resilient-silver.png
2008-04-13 02:11 < denelson83> "The spam filter blocked your page save because it detected a blacklisted hyperlink. You may have added it yourself, the link may have been added by another editor before it was blacklisted, or you may be infected by spyware that adds links to wiki pages. You will need to remove all instances of the blacklisted URL before you can save. If you are attempting a section edit, note that this block may even be due to spam links in ot
2008-04-13 02:12 < denelson83> Surreal_barnstar.png does not appear to be in use on en.wiki
2008-04-13 02:13 < White_Cat> denelson83 okay
2008-04-13 02:13 < White_Cat> now others
2008-04-13 02:13 < White_Cat> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php?i=Barnstar-minor.png&w=_100000#end
2008-04-13 02:13 < OverlordQ> Wow
2008-04-13 02:13 < White_Cat> Barnstar-minor.png -> Minor_Barnstar.png
2008-04-13 02:14 < OverlordQ> I think maine wins for stupid legislation
2008-04-13 02:14 < OverlordQ> http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080406/NEWS/804060343/-1/NEWS01
2008-04-13 02:14 < denelson83> White_Cat: Will put that in work
2008-04-13 02:14 < denelson83> Stand by...
2008-04-13 02:14 * White_Cat always thought of GDI computer eva when someone says "Stand by..."
2008-04-13 02:19 < denelson83> Blitz edit complete
2008-04-13 02:19 < denelson83> 83% of instances delinked
2008-04-13 02:20 < White_Cat> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php?i=Barnstar3.png&w=_100000#end
2008-04-13 02:20 < denelson83> destination filename please
2008-04-13 02:21 < White_Cat> sure
2008-04-13 02:21 < White_Cat> Barnstar_of_Diligence.png
2008-04-13 02:21 < denelson83> Warning: "Barnstar3.png" linked from at least 50 articles
2008-04-13 02:22 < denelson83> Stand by...
2008-04-13 02:22 < Ningyou> tool that fixes picture names?
2008-04-13 02:23 < denelson83> manual.
2008-04-13 02:23 * Mike_H NP: Edison Lighthouse - Love Grows Where My Rosemary Goes (1970)
2008-04-13 02:24 < Ningyou> :/
2008-04-13 02:24 < Fennec> that's a good one
2008-04-13 02:25 < denelson83> Some of these references are behind transclusion cloaks
2008-04-13 02:27 < White_Cat> denelson83 possibly yes
2008-04-13 02:27 * Mike_H NP: The Delfonics - Didn't I (Blow Your Mind This Time?) (1970)
2008-04-13 02:27 < White_Cat> some are behind <includeonly>'s
2008-04-13 02:29 * Mike_H NP: Bobby Darin - Things (1962)
2008-04-13 02:30 < Lubaf> I AM IRON MAN!
2008-04-13 02:30 < Lubaf> Dun dun dun dun dun dun, dun na na na na na na nun nuh nah nah!
2008-04-13 02:30 < Golbez> has he lost his mind?
2008-04-13 02:30 < Golbez> can he see or is he blind?
2008-04-13 02:30 < White_Cat> he never had a mind
2008-04-13 02:31 < Lubaf> White_Cat: You could've quoted the song, if you wanted to be negative.
2008-04-13 02:31 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-04-13 02:31 < White_Cat> I wasnt negatve
2008-04-13 02:31 < White_Cat> I was complimenting
2008-04-13 02:31 < White_Cat> :P
2008-04-13 02:31 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-04-13 02:31 < denelson83> typo - "negat[i]ve"
2008-04-13 02:31 < denelson83> Spam filter conflicts encountered
2008-04-13 02:32 < White_Cat> denelson83 okay
2008-04-13 02:32 < denelson83> Not all references can be changed
2008-04-13 02:32 < White_Cat> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php?i=Barnstar2.png&w=_100000#end
2008-04-13 02:32 < Lubaf> typo - typ[o].
2008-04-13 02:33 < Lubaf> typewronger.
2008-04-13 02:33 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-04-13 02:33 < White_Cat> Editors_Barnstar.png
2008-04-13 02:33 * Mike_H NP: Linda Ronstadt - You're No Good (1974)
2008-04-13 02:33 < Lubaf> How's the Value Subtracted Tax?
2008-04-13 02:33 < Lubaf> Mike_H: NP: Porn music.
2008-04-13 02:33 < Mike_H> you would.
2008-04-13 02:34 < Golbez> bow chicka wow wow
2008-04-13 02:34 < White_Cat> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php?i=Barnstar-rotating.gif&w=_100000#end
2008-04-13 02:34 < White_Cat> Tireless_Contributor_Barnstar.gif
2008-04-13 02:34 < denelson83> I haven't finished with Barnstar3.png
2008-04-13 02:34 < denelson83> Task queue full
2008-04-13 02:34 < denelson83> And my browser needs restarting
2008-04-13 02:34 < White_Cat> denelson83 oh I am postin them all fo you :)
2008-04-13 02:34 < denelson83> Well, they're gonna scroll off my screen
2008-04-13 02:34 < denelson83> put them in privmsgs
2008-04-13 02:35 < White_Cat> http://tools.wikimedia.de/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php?i=WMBarnstar.png&w=_100000#end
2008-04-13 02:35 < White_Cat> Working_Man's_Barnstar.png
2008-04-13 02:35 < White_Cat> ok
2008-04-13 02:35 < denelson83> privmsgs, please, otherwise they'll scroll off my screen
2008-04-13 02:35 < denelson83> Bah... Spam filter again
2008-04-13 02:36 < denelson83> Lemme turn that off...
2008-04-13 02:36 < White_Cat> denelson83 lol
2008-04-13 02:36 < Mike_H> denelson83: I got really excited
2008-04-13 02:36 < denelson83> Try again - /msg
2008-04-13 02:36 < Mike_H> because I thought "privmsgs" was a shortened form of "privatemusings"
2008-04-13 02:36 < White_Cat> denelson83 msged
2008-04-13 02:36 < Mike_H> and I always cuddle privatemusings
2008-04-13 02:36 < Mike_H> but alas
2008-04-13 02:36 < Mike_H> he is not here
2008-04-13 02:36 < White_Cat> did you get it?
2008-04-13 02:36 < denelson83> bah
2008-04-13 02:36 < denelson83> No, blocked by spam filter
2008-04-13 02:36 < denelson83> try again
2008-04-13 02:36 < White_Cat> and now?
2008-04-13 02:37 < denelson83> ty
2008-04-13 02:37 < bumm13> hiya denelson83
2008-04-13 02:40 < denelson83> yo, bummie
2008-04-13 02:40 < denelson83> Gosh... A dual-layer transclusion cloak
2008-04-13 02:44 * Mike_H NP: DeBarge - Who's Holding Donna Now (1985)
2008-04-13 02:45 < kmccoylogger> Hey, bumm13. :)
2008-04-13 02:45 < bumm13> hiya kmccoy
2008-04-13 02:45 < bumm13> are you on the road?
2008-04-13 02:45 < kmccoy> Yep. In Fayetteville, NC.
2008-04-13 02:45 < kmccoy> For a rare couple of days off.
2008-04-13 02:46 < denelson83> I'm getting beaten to the punch
2008-04-13 02:53 < Mike_H> kmccoy: ugh, of all the places you could be.
2008-04-13 02:54 < kmccoy> Mike_H, such is life on the road. I don't pick where I spend my time, the people in New York do that.
2008-04-13 02:54 < Mike_H> tell them to pick a bigger, less hick city
2008-04-13 02:55 < kmccoy> I'm keeping my fingers crossed for something much bigger coming down the line, though -- the guy who hired me for this tour is going to work on a Broadway first national tour...
2008-04-13 02:55 < kmccoy> I don't tell booking which cities to pick.
2008-04-13 02:57 < Mike_H> you should!
2008-04-13 02:57 < Mike_H> you should be like
2008-04-13 02:57 < denelson83> Barnstar-rotating.gif is entrenched on en.wiki
2008-04-13 02:57 < Mike_H> "perform in Atlanta and Charlotte maybe. but never in Grand Rapids, Minnesota."
2008-04-13 02:57 < kmccoy> I played in Atlanta already.
2008-04-13 02:57 < Mike_H> do it again.
2008-04-13 02:57 < Mike_H> encore!
2008-04-13 03:02 < denelson83> [23:36:38] <Mike_H> but alas
2008-04-13 03:02 < denelson83> [23:36:40] <Mike_H> he is not here
2008-04-13 03:02 < denelson83> Now he is
2008-04-13 03:11 < Mike_H> oh shit
2008-04-13 03:11 * Mike_H cuddles privatemusings
2008-04-13 03:11 < privatemusings> g'day Mike!
2008-04-13 03:12 * privatemusings isn't really here though....
2008-04-13 03:12 < privatemusings> disappearing now......
2008-04-13 03:12 < Mike_H> :<
2008-04-13 03:12 < denelson83> whoops
2008-04-13 03:15 < White_Cat> denelson83 progress?
2008-04-13 03:18 < denelson83> barnstar2.png purged
2008-04-13 03:19 < White_Cat> heh
2008-04-13 03:19 < White_Cat> deletionism barnstar is purged :)
2008-04-13 03:42 < theINC> sigh, conservapedia is still at it
2008-04-13 03:43 < theINC> one of their front page news items is about a kid who takes a phone call in class from his dad who's serving in Iraq
2008-04-13 03:44 < White_Cat> theINC ah
2008-04-13 03:45 < White_Cat> kid has way too much free time
2008-04-13 03:45 < White_Cat> why isnt the kid in iraq with dad?
2008-04-13 03:45 < theINC> the kid is suspended and it made national news!
2008-04-13 03:45 < theINC> haha
2008-04-13 03:45 < White_Cat> iraq is safe right?
2008-04-13 03:45 < theINC> if you were trusting conservatives then it would be!
2008-04-13 03:46 < White_Cat> I devoted my entire life to them
2008-04-13 03:46 < White_Cat> I spend half of my day worshiping them
2008-04-13 03:46 < White_Cat> the other half cursing democrats
2008-04-13 03:47 < theINC> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348869,00.html - another Fox News conservatie story, a British pro-life group sues Google because Google wouldn't place their anti-abortion ad
2008-04-13 03:49 < theINC> Google's terms and conditions state they have the right to reject any ads.
2008-04-13 03:49 < arcimboldo_> http://www.conservapedia.com/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom is just so next to reality ...
2008-04-13 03:51 < White_Cat> arcimboldo_ Iraq is Freer now
2008-04-13 03:51 < arcimboldo_> not much safer though ...
2008-04-13 03:52 < arcimboldo_> and not the kind of model democracy that had been intended ...
2008-04-13 03:52 < arcimboldo_> and a playground for terrorists ...
2008-04-13 03:52 < White_Cat> its freer!
2008-04-13 03:52 < arcimboldo_> etc etc.
2008-04-13 03:52 < theINC> White_Cat: My sarcasm detector is blowing
2008-04-13 03:52 < White_Cat> FFA!
2008-04-13 03:52 < White_Cat> its a free for all
2008-04-13 03:52 < White_Cat> no laws
2008-04-13 03:52 < White_Cat> no rules
2008-04-13 03:53 < White_Cat> its definately freer
2008-04-13 03:53 < arcimboldo_> You mean it's Ron Paul country?
2008-04-13 03:53 < White_Cat> I wasnt being sarcastic
2008-04-13 03:53 < White_Cat> arcimboldo_ no it isnt
2008-04-13 03:53 < White_Cat> its less orderly
2008-04-13 03:53 < White_Cat> it is the oposite of orderly
2008-04-13 03:54 < Starnestommy> disorderly?
2008-04-13 03:54 < theINC> http://www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia epic lols
2008-04-13 03:55 < theINC> the article has next to nothing about the encyclopedia's history, just how liberal and horrible it is
2008-04-13 03:55 < White_Cat> it is liberal and horrible
2008-04-13 03:55 < arcimboldo_> White_Cat: I hadn't heard of many other wars over democracy ...
2008-04-13 03:55 < White_Cat> arcimboldo_ the american civil war?
2008-04-13 03:55 < arcimboldo_> You could free Burma or Darfur at a much lower cost ...
2008-04-13 03:55 < White_Cat> french revolution?
2008-04-13 03:56 < White_Cat> birth of George W. Bush
2008-04-13 03:56 < arcimboldo_> I'm talking about the present ...
2008-04-13 03:56 < theINC> Wikipedia allows hundreds of thousands of obscure and offensive entries, such as unsuccessful punk rock groups and silly television shows.
2008-04-13 03:56 < White_Cat> his mothers birth pains lead to an entire world war
2008-04-13 03:56 < theINC> arcimboldo_: or tibet!
2008-04-13 03:56 < theINC> define "silly"
2008-04-13 03:56 < theINC> is The Simpsons silly?
2008-04-13 03:56 < theINC> South Bark?
2008-04-13 03:56 < theINC> The Mighty Boosh?
2008-04-13 03:56 < theINC> Doctor Who?
2008-04-13 03:56 < White_Cat> Who
2008-04-13 03:56 < White_Cat> ?
2008-04-13 03:56 < arcimboldo_> theINC: Well ... I wouldn't want to imagine a war between US and China ...
2008-04-13 03:57 < theINC> that would be the end of the world.
2008-04-13 03:57 < White_Cat> A war between US and China would be US soldiers and Chineese ones throwing each other spondgebod plastic figurines
2008-04-13 03:57 < White_Cat> bullets would be useless
2008-04-13 03:58 < arcimboldo_> China already has enough power to make the US financial system break ...
2008-04-13 03:58 < White_Cat> no
2008-04-13 03:58 < arcimboldo_> Basically, they financed all the trade deficit in recent years ...
2008-04-13 03:58 < White_Cat> china and US are tied to each other
2008-04-13 03:59 < White_Cat> if one dies other one comes down with it
2008-04-13 03:59 < White_Cat> http://www.conservapedia.com/Image:Wikipedia_scandals.jpg
2008-04-13 03:59 < theINC> I think every Conservapedia article should have a line saying "All living [article title]s evolved from 2 members of the [article title] kind."
2008-04-13 04:01 < White_Cat> http://www.conservapedia.com/Wikipedia#Michael_Moore
2008-04-13 04:01 < White_Cat> I thought everything Moore said was a lie
2008-04-13 04:03 < theINC> So Michael Moore was unhappy with an edit, so he links to the wikipedia article and the user who made it? And that's the editor/Wikipedia's bad, not Michael's?!
2008-04-13 04:04 < rafterman> conservapedias a lot more fun to read than wikipedia
2008-04-13 04:04 < rafterman> i will give them that
2008-04-13 04:04 < theINC> i didn't think they were going for fun
2008-04-13 04:04 < rafterman> they have over 20 articles with homosexuality in the title
2008-04-13 04:05 * Mike_H NP: Styx - Don't Let It End (1984)
2008-04-13 04:05 < theINC> they were going for what they believe is fact, which is clearly fiction to anyone outside the conservative bubble
2008-04-13 04:05 < rafterman> clearly enough where it is fun
2008-04-13 04:05 < rafterman> hold on, let me pull up some keepers
2008-04-13 04:06 < theINC> http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/how-did-animals-spread conservative lolz
2008-04-13 04:06 < theINC> Skeptics often claim, “The Bible is not a science textbook.” This, of course, is true—because science textbooks change every year, whereas the Bible is the unchanging Word of God—the God who cannot lie.
2008-04-13 04:07 < theINC> they act like everything in science isnt a hard fact, when most of the stuff in textbooks stays the same - the stuff like theory of gravity, the laws of motion, and the theory of evolution
2008-04-13 04:08 < rafterman> yeah they exploit the hell out of the definition of theory
2008-04-13 04:09 < theINC> that gets me too, pretty much everything in science is a theory...
2008-04-13 04:09 < rafterman> scientists are willing to admit they might be wrong. even on things like gravity. therefore they are certainly less credible than conservapedia, who is right 100% of the time
2008-04-13 04:09 < theINC> gravity is a theory... but just a theory, I believe in Intelligent Pulling of the Earth.
2008-04-13 04:09 < theINC> I believe the earth pulls everything down because a Divine Creator does.
2008-04-13 04:10 < rafterman> every solution leads to another why, usually many whys, but i imagine it all ends with one why. so i don't see much difference between diehard christians and diehard scientists
2008-04-13 04:10 < rafterman> one is perhaps just more industrious than the other
2008-04-13 04:11 < theINC> apparently it's the Liberal Style to assume that we know more today than we did 2000 years ago, when the collected bible started showing up
2008-04-13 04:11 < rafterman> when we've reached the final why, that is when god springs up
2008-04-13 04:12 < Mike_H> http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=6290798&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
2008-04-13 04:12 < Mike_H> yay
2008-04-13 04:12 < Mike_H> Dr. Phil is so classy.
2008-04-13 04:12 < rafterman> oh hah that
2008-04-13 04:13 < theINC> rafterman: I think it's such that the early man wondered where we came from and why we are here, and didn't know enough to not immediately jump to god
2008-04-13 04:13 < rafterman> yeah i love dr phil. he is absolutely unapologetic about his douchiness
2008-04-13 04:14 < rafterman> i like to think all questions can be answered, I might say I almost believe that. but as a child will show you, there is always room for one more why
2008-04-13 04:15 < rafterman> one can only see the whole picture by narrowing their field of vision to a slice of it
2008-04-13 04:17 < theINC> rafterman: haha children can DEFINITELY show us that. they never stop asking questions!
2008-04-13 04:17 < Ceiling_Cat> shit, my brain is turning to mush
2008-04-13 04:17 < Ceiling_Cat> and this thing is due in 4 hours
2008-04-13 04:17 < theINC> rafterman: I agree with you to an extent, but that it's waaay too early to jump to god if we're waiting for the very final why
2008-04-13 04:20 < rafterman> exactly, that is why I am still very interested in scientific pursuits. But I do not fault religious fundamentalists, perhaps they are betting on the limited nature of man's mind, and do not find it logical to attempt to understand all with an naturally finite mind.
2008-04-13 04:21 < rafterman> But I do fault people who appear to lack a natural curiosity towards the world around them.
2008-04-13 04:22 < rafterman> Learning for learning's sake will never be a futile endeavor.
2008-04-13 04:23 < theINC> you're very right
2008-04-13 04:24 < Rinn> If anything, it's fun.
2008-04-13 04:24 * denelson83 manages to crash Shareaza
2008-04-13 04:24 < denelson83> douchiness, or douchebaggery?
2008-04-13 04:24 < theINC> douchebagginess?
2008-04-13 04:25 < theINC> Douchebag Quotient?
2008-04-13 04:25 < theINC> that sounds like a movie ala The Davinci Code
2008-04-13 04:25 < rafterman> I think it depends on the situation.
2008-04-13 04:25 < denelson83> heh
2008-04-13 04:25 < rafterman> Douchiness seems like a character trait, while douchebaggery seems like the temporary practice of douchiness.
2008-04-13 04:26 < rafterman> Or vice versa.
2008-04-13 04:26 < rafterman> Definitely worth thinking about, though.
2008-04-13 04:26 < theINC> kind of like Walt Mossberg's fanwankery versus a display of his fanwankiness?
2008-04-13 04:27 < rafterman> Hah. Yes we all are ruled by suffixes.
2008-04-13 04:28 < theINC> I've used that term in sentences regarding Walt Mossberg
2008-04-13 04:28 < theINC> "I am a Mac user, but even I can't stomach Walt Mossber's fanwankery"
2008-04-13 04:29 < rafterman> Fanwankery as referring to macfags?
2008-04-13 04:29 < rafterman> (Not derogatory)
2008-04-13 04:30 < theINC> yes. I am a MacFag but Walt is just such a douchebag about it
2008-04-13 04:30 < rafterman> Ah, hah well he's not alone.
2008-04-13 04:30 < rafterman> But Linuxfags.
2008-04-13 04:30 < rafterman> Windowsfags.
2008-04-13 04:30 < rafterman> All the same.
2008-04-13 04:31 < theINC> every other user in the world complained about iMovie '08 - it turned it from a fairly competent movie maker to a library of your movies with practically no editing skillz, even David Pogue got angry, and he's never angry at apple
2008-04-13 04:31 < theINC> and Walt was like 'oh, it's still good, because you can just keep using the old iMovie! no problems!"
2008-04-13 04:31 < theINC> BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIKED THE OLD ONE AND WANTED AN UPGRADE OF THE OLD ONE!?!?
2008-04-13 04:31 < rafterman> oldversion.com
2008-04-13 04:31 < rafterman> My savior.
2008-04-13 04:32 < Rinn> Demonoid's back.
2008-04-13 04:32 < theINC> rafterman: the new install keeps the old version on your computer, but still
2008-04-13 04:32 < rafterman> I never upgrade my hardware, so involuntary software updates are not my idea of a good time.
2008-04-13 04:32 < theINC> haha indeed
2008-04-13 04:33 < rafterman> Recently "upgraded" from Windows CE 3.00 to Palm OS 5.2.1.
2008-04-13 04:33 < rafterman> Movin into the new millenium!
2008-04-13 04:33 < theINC> SHOCK AND HORROR
2008-04-13 04:34 < theINC> if I was gonna be a douchebag I'd tell you to get an iphone but I won't
2008-04-13 04:34 < theINC> because you probably don't have itunes and I don't expect you to
2008-04-13 04:34 < mavhc> noone could ever describe palmos as being in the new millennium
2008-04-13 04:34 < rafterman> Eh, I know I should. I think I'm addicted to stuff that needs my interference to work.
2008-04-13 04:35 < rafterman> Well written software makes me feel incompetant.
2008-04-13 04:35 < mavhc> is that why so many people use windows?
2008-04-13 04:36 < theINC> mavhc: Linux needs my interference to work.
2008-04-13 04:36 < theINC> that's why I don't use it.
2008-04-13 04:36 < theINC> I use both a Mac and PC
2008-04-13 04:37 < theINC> that PC has Vista on it.
2008-04-13 04:40 < tobago> Anyone own a juicer?
2008-04-13 04:42 * denelson83 juices tobago
2008-04-13 04:43 < tobago> My broker said I needed to liquify my assets!
2008-04-13 04:44 < tobago> So a few of those floridagirls are probably going to jail, eh?
2008-04-13 04:45 < tobago> Not bad, Florida, not half bad.
2008-04-13 04:45 * theINC will now cry himself to sleep knowing that Rick Astley did not write Never Gonna Give You Up
2008-04-13 04:45 < tobago> As Made Famous By!
2008-04-13 04:45 < tobago> my favorite phrase
2008-04-13 04:46 < theINC> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=LC-jtF3JQ68 he can play guitar!
2008-04-13 04:47 < theINC> (that video is a Rickroll technically, but i'm using it to demonstrate my purpose so it doesn't count)
2008-04-13 04:53 < The359> what Florida girls?
2008-04-13 04:53 < theINC> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Astley -the article is broked. I'm reverting
2008-04-13 04:54 < Ceiling_Cat> omg
2008-04-13 04:54 < Ceiling_Cat> I think it'sdone
2008-04-13 04:54 < denelson83> børked, eh?
2008-04-13 04:54 * Ceiling_Cat is draaaaaaaaaaaiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnned
2008-04-13 04:55 < theINC> i think it's really borked, even a few revisions back it's all broken
2008-04-13 04:55 < Ceiling_Cat> 14 straight hours of hell
2008-04-13 04:56 < theINC> did anyone look at [[rick astley]]?
2008-04-13 04:57 < Ceiling_Cat> quick easy linux question
2008-04-13 04:57 < Ceiling_Cat> how do I list all the printers?
2008-04-13 04:57 < Ceiling_Cat> I need to do an lpr -P<printer name> file.pdf <-- I need a list of valid printers
2008-04-13 05:08 < denelson83> Rearrange the letters in "Rick Astley" and you get "tricky sale"
2008-04-13 05:08 < theINC> denelson83: well, it was a one hit wonder really
2008-04-13 05:08 < theINC> well, he had Together Forever too
2008-04-13 05:08 < denelson83> Two hits
2008-04-13 05:09 < Lubaf> "The system kept crashing when any volunteer would log in to it. It worked fine for the developer, though. We discovered their system stored a unique value for each user containing the PC name concatenated with the username. The database field for that value was only 15 characters. Our PC names were 12 characters. The developer’s name was Bob."
2008-04-13 05:10 * Lubaf wonders where that cut out.
2008-04-13 05:10 < denelson83> Rearrange the letters in "Ceiling Cat" and you get "angelic tic"
2008-04-13 05:11 < theINC> its true denelson83
2008-04-13 05:23 < White_Cat> denelson83 status?
2008-04-13 05:24 < denelson83> taking break
2008-04-13 06:02 < denelson83> [[Image:Barnstar.png]] is way too entrenched on en.wiki
2008-04-13 06:02 < denelson83> If only there was a [[User:RenameBot]]
2008-04-13 06:06 < denelson83> Frankly, White_Cat, I think you're asking for the Moon and the stars on that one
2008-04-13 06:50 < Lycurgus> /win 10
2008-04-13 06:51 < str4nd> You fail
2008-04-13 06:52 < Lycurgus> sorry.
2008-04-13 06:53 < Lycurgus> are you any relation to robert strand?
2008-04-13 06:53 < Lycurgus> AKA "beach"
2008-04-13 06:55 < str4nd> Noup
2008-04-13 06:55 < str4nd> My last name is Strand
2008-04-13 07:30 < Antibuddha> hi
2008-04-13 07:31 < Antibuddha> i got a new video card 3 days ago and it came with this game that was like a ripofff of those super mario books where you choose your own adventure
2008-04-13 07:31 < Antibuddha> and the adventure i finally chose was to uninstall the game
2008-04-13 07:32 < Antibuddha> now i am having trouble deciding if it was a good game or a bad game because i didn't uninstall it because it was boring, but because i decided the moral choices my hero had to make wasn't worth it so i killed him permanently
2008-04-13 07:32 < Cyrius> you should have stopped on the last statement
2008-04-13 07:32 < Antibuddha> you should try to make sense
2008-04-13 07:32 < Cyrius> part of humor is knowing when to stop telling the joke
2008-04-13 07:33 < Antibuddha> its not a joke
2008-04-13 07:33 < Cyrius> sure it was
2008-04-13 07:33 < Antibuddha> i am contemplating how great games are made
2008-04-13 07:33 < Cyrius> it had a setup and a punchline
2008-04-13 07:34 < Antibuddha> right now im playing dreamfall and i don't much like how the main character is suffering from midlife crisis
2008-04-13 07:35 < Antibuddha> but when i tried to enter the road with traffic in it i couldnt, so dreamfall is a bad game in my book
2008-04-13 07:35 < Antibuddha> so there goes two games which are no longer possibly "great" because they don't offer the option of suicide
2008-04-13 07:35 < Antibuddha> except by uninstallation methods
2008-04-13 07:37 < Antibuddha> when i had a decade old video card, playing games at 10fps and regular freezes was integral
2008-04-13 07:37 < Antibuddha> now i can't enjoy civ4 or warcraft because i lose with ease and i can't blame poor computer performance no more
2008-04-13 07:37 < Antibuddha> can wikipedia offer me game buying advice
2008-04-13 07:38 < Antibuddha> oh god, do i have to buy WoW
2008-04-13 07:53 < JessicaTaylor> Hi sleepyheads
2008-04-13 07:53 < JessicaTaylor> aww no one home
2008-04-13 07:56 < Antibuddha> guys i figured out how to make the game that came with my video card a great game for me
2008-04-13 07:56 < Antibuddha> by choosing a language installation i dont understand
2008-04-13 07:56 < Antibuddha> then i dont feel bad about the decisions i make because i dont know what im saying
2008-04-13 07:57 < Antibuddha> and i play from beginning to end and murder a lot of pixels to satisfy the drive for violence inside me
2008-04-13 07:57 < Antibuddha> hurray!
2008-04-13 07:59 < JessicaTaylor> Hey! I'm buddhist lol
2008-04-13 08:01 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-04-13 08:01 < Lubaf> How's Flubber?
2008-04-13 08:06 < Antibuddha> no hable espanol
2008-04-13 08:06 < Antibuddha> no hable mucho jugar
2008-04-13 08:07 < Lycurgus> Spanische Torrheiten
2008-04-13 08:07 < arcimboldo_> No se sabe
2008-04-13 08:15 < JessicaTaylor> Well I speak English
2008-04-13 08:35 < JessicaTaylor> Night night everyone
2008-04-13 08:57 < White_Cat> denelson83 what?
2008-04-13 08:57 < White_Cat> [2008-04-13 13:06:39] <denelson83> Frankly, White_Cat, I think you're asking for the Moon and the stars on that one
2008-04-13 08:57 < White_Cat> oh I see
2008-04-13 09:01 < White_Cat> denelson83 Barnstar.png is annoying
2008-04-13 09:01 < White_Cat> thats leftovers mind you
2008-04-13 10:05 < rocketmaster000> Thanks!
2008-04-13 10:06 < rocketmaster000> Please don't delete [[WillowTalk]].
2008-04-13 10:07 < rocketmaster000> I used it, and it was good.
2008-04-13 10:44 < TheWeasel> 'lo.
2008-04-13 10:45 * TheWeasel reviews national park articles
2008-04-13 11:16 < Antibuddha> salir del juego
2008-04-13 11:33 < HumbertHumbert> Why does http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_In%2C_Garbage_Out have different content from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_In,_Garbage_Out ? Compare the two pages and you will see a noticeable difference in the first paragraph.
2008-04-13 11:35 < White_Cat> I see same content
2008-04-13 11:35 < White_Cat> clear your chache
2008-04-13 11:35 < White_Cat> refresh both pages with ctrl f5
2008-04-13 11:36 < HumbertHumbert> Uh...
2008-04-13 11:36 < HumbertHumbert> That is very strange.
2008-04-13 11:37 < Lycurgus> what cache SNAFU?
2008-04-13 11:37 < HumbertHumbert> ?
2008-04-13 11:37 < Lycurgus> or the users that love it.
2008-04-13 11:37 < Lycurgus> s/./?/
2008-04-13 11:37 < HumbertHumbert> ?
2008-04-13 11:57 < Messedrocker> is a CD low-quality if i was able to bend it to the point of snapping with my non-dominant hand?
2008-04-13 12:02 < bumm13> :x
2008-04-13 12:02 * Aqwis2 tries
2008-04-13 12:20 < Messedrocker> alright!
2008-04-13 12:20 < Messedrocker> ubuntu installation, take 3!
2008-04-13 12:21 * Messedrocker is installing linux on a computer which he will use to develop a website
2008-04-13 12:21 < dungodung> a new ubuntu is coming in just more than a week
2008-04-13 12:22 < dungodung> why not wait for the release?
2008-04-13 12:22 < Messedrocker> fuck that
2008-04-13 12:22 < dungodung> well, yeah, you can easily upgrade later
2008-04-13 12:22 < Messedrocker> exactly!
2008-04-13 12:23 * TheWeasel was going to do something but forgot just what
2008-04-13 12:24 < Mm40> Hate it when that happens
2008-04-13 12:24 < TheWeasel> Oh, I remember.
2008-04-13 12:24 < TheWeasel> \0/
2008-04-13 12:26 < bumm13> hiya Weasel
2008-04-13 12:26 < TheWeasel> hey
2008-04-13 12:27 < bumm13> I stumbled across one of the most German-sounding last names I think I've ever seen
2008-04-13 12:27 < Mm40> what?
2008-04-13 12:27 < bumm13> Schlachtenhaufen
2008-04-13 12:27 < TheWeasel> Someone's called that?
2008-04-13 12:27 < TheWeasel> that's horrible
2008-04-13 12:28 < bumm13> well, a former mayor of Seattle had that for his last name at birth
2008-04-13 12:28 < bumm13> he went by "Schell" instead :P
2008-04-13 12:28 < TheWeasel> I mean the actual meaning is "battle group" or something, but "schlachten" also means to butcher and Haufen also means "heap" as in "dungheap"
2008-04-13 12:28 < bumm13> yikes
2008-04-13 12:28 < TheWeasel> so it's not an awfully elegant name
2008-04-13 12:28 < silsor> yeah that's pretty german all right
2008-04-13 12:28 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-04-13 12:29 < TheWeasel> Schell is Hungarian
2008-04-13 12:29 < TheWeasel> Szell
2008-04-13 12:29 < bumm13> how appopriate, given he was the mayor of Seattle during the WTO protests in 1999
2008-04-13 12:29 < Messedrocker> you think amerikkkans can tell the difference?
2008-04-13 12:29 < TheWeasel> hehe
2008-04-13 12:29 * TheWeasel threatens to go all Teutonic on your ass
2008-04-13 12:30 < TheWeasel> on your Arschenklappen
2008-04-13 12:30 < TheWeasel> (mock-German)
2008-04-13 12:30 < Messedrocker> TheWeasel, is Erik Möller representative of your people?
2008-04-13 12:30 < bumm13> haha
2008-04-13 12:30 < TheWeasel> I've never had any close contact with any of his actions
2008-04-13 12:30 < Messedrocker> or would you consider him a weirdo as well?
2008-04-13 12:30 < bumm13> Erik is in idealist dreamer, one might say
2008-04-13 12:30 < TheWeasel> I've no idea.
2008-04-13 12:30 < Messedrocker> he's a power-grubby weirdo
2008-04-13 12:31 < TheWeasel> Oh, a) is certainly a German feature, b) only a behavioral pattern that German politicians have displayed
2008-04-13 12:31 < Messedrocker> so erik is a typical german politician
2008-04-13 12:31 < Messedrocker> which is exactly what he is
2008-04-13 12:31 < TheWeasel> Germans have a highly abstract mind
2008-04-13 12:32 < TheWeasel> they like to make up shit
2008-04-13 12:32 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-04-13 12:32 < bumm13> he certainly wouldn't be mistaken for an American ;)
2008-04-13 12:32 < Messedrocker> his name has a gosh darn UMLAUT in it
2008-04-13 12:32 < TheWeasel> Yea, it's funny
2008-04-13 12:32 < bumm13> that can be anglicized ;)
2008-04-13 12:33 < TheWeasel> when Motörhead toured Germany, the German fans thought they were supposed to pronounce the ö as ö
2008-04-13 12:33 < bumm13> 4e=]
2008-04-13 12:33 < TheWeasel> Möller is Danish for Miller
2008-04-13 12:33 < Messedrocker> mo-oterhead
2008-04-13 12:33 * bumm13 sprays water at his cat
2008-04-13 12:33 < TheWeasel> more liked "moteurhead"
2008-04-13 12:33 < Messedrocker> but what is it German for?
2008-04-13 12:33 < TheWeasel> Miller, in northern dialects
2008-04-13 12:33 < TheWeasel> Müller in more southern ones
2008-04-13 12:33 < bumm13> Jutlandia!
2008-04-13 12:34 < TheWeasel> there's a vowel shift from Low to High German
2008-04-13 12:34 < Messedrocker> so he's prussian?
2008-04-13 12:34 < TheWeasel> I have no clue.
2008-04-13 12:34 < bumm13> probably not
2008-04-13 12:34 < TheWeasel> Prussia doesn't only contain Low German territory, just mostly
2008-04-13 12:35 < Messedrocker> danny says he is prussian
2008-04-13 12:35 < TheWeasel> It's likely, because Prussia covered the biggest part of northern Germany
2008-04-13 12:35 < TheWeasel> with exceptions such as Oldenburg, Brunswick etc.
2008-04-13 12:36 < Messedrocker> holy moller
2008-04-13 12:36 < Messedrocker> there are 206 updates available
2008-04-13 12:36 < notagerbil> Do please tell this to Erik, the one thing about him I think is clearly German is his sense of humour...
2008-04-13 12:37 < bumm13> yeah, quite likely
2008-04-13 12:37 < notagerbil> And I don't mean that in a bad way.
2008-04-13 12:37 < Messedrocker> he once ran out of a building with his fist protruding
2008-04-13 12:37 < notagerbil> Just one of those things.
2008-04-13 12:37 * TheWeasel has met many Germans with a fantastic sense of humor
2008-04-13 12:37 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-04-13 12:37 < TheWeasel> oh, right
2008-04-13 12:37 < Messedrocker> he was (jokingly?) going to punch me in the face
2008-04-13 12:37 < TheWeasel> Well, I'd have to go if only I could find my steel helmet.
2008-04-13 12:37 < notagerbil> It is just a particular characteristic. No two countries can have the same sense of humour.
2008-04-13 12:38 < bumm13> Canada has made great contributions in that area
2008-04-13 12:38 < Messedrocker> yeah
2008-04-13 12:38 < Messedrocker> every comedian and actor is canadian
2008-04-13 12:38 < notagerbil> For instance for me Seinfeld is not funny, just simply not funny.
2008-04-13 12:38 < Messedrocker> it's the law or something
2008-04-13 12:38 < bumm13> everyday Americans are too "rigid", or something
2008-04-13 12:38 < Messedrocker> we are a rigid people
2008-04-13 12:39 < Messedrocker> our national identity was established by religious revivals for crying out loud
2008-04-13 12:39 < notagerbil> German humour is to me like a blunt object. Direct but not necessarily pointed.
2008-04-13 12:39 < Messedrocker> "What did Heinrich say to the plumber?"
2008-04-13 12:39 < Messedrocker> "Go fuck your mother!"
2008-04-13 12:40 < bumm13> :x
2008-04-13 12:40 < TheWeasel> A man walks into the bar and shoots everyone. The end.
2008-04-13 12:40 < Messedrocker> i found that funny
2008-04-13 12:40 < Messedrocker> am i german?
2008-04-13 12:40 < TheWeasel> Woohoo
2008-04-13 12:40 * Messedrocker has a dry sense of humor. it runs in the family
2008-04-13 12:40 < TheWeasel> most people would struggle to come up with one name in German comedy.
2008-04-13 12:41 < TheWeasel> Billy Wilder has caught some of it in One Two Three.
2008-04-13 12:41 < notagerbil> British humour is sort of like a waterpistol with acid inside. When you feel the sting, not everyone will understand why you cringe so much.
2008-04-13 12:41 * TheWeasel processes that simile
2008-04-13 12:41 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-04-13 12:42 < TheWeasel> a very good example of very German comedy is a guy called Loriot
2008-04-13 12:42 < notagerbil> But all the british will know, and share in the joke.
2008-04-13 12:42 < TheWeasel> he's magnificent, just difficult to follow unless you've lived here
2008-04-13 12:43 < TheWeasel> the UK comedians have a very grateful audience.
2008-04-13 12:43 < TheWeasel> sometimes it's enough to namedrop funny words to make them burst with laughter.
2008-04-13 12:43 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-04-13 12:43 < Messedrocker> comedy isn't dirty words
2008-04-13 12:43 < Messedrocker> it's words that SOUND dirty
2008-04-13 12:44 < Messedrocker> like MUCKLUCK!
2008-04-13 12:44 < TheWeasel> Thrapston.
2008-04-13 12:44 < Messedrocker> Walla-Walla!
2008-04-13 12:44 < Messedrocker> Keokuk!
2008-04-13 12:44 < Messedrocker> Cucamunga!
2008-04-13 12:44 < Messedrocker> Seattle!
2008-04-13 12:45 < bumm13> Seattle?
2008-04-13 12:45 < Messedrocker> i was naming funny place names
2008-04-13 12:45 < notagerbil> Finnish humor is like setting invisible ants in your pants. No one, not even other finns will know what is happening.
2008-04-13 12:45 < bumm13> two of those place names were used frequently in Warner Bros. cartoons
2008-04-13 12:45 * TheWeasel the other day came past a place near the town of Brunswick called Groß Schwülper
2008-04-13 12:45 < TheWeasel> that's just phonetically pleasing
2008-04-13 12:46 < bumm13> heh
2008-04-13 12:46 < TheWeasel> it resembles the sound your stomach makes when you're hungry.
2008-04-13 12:46 < mavhc> belgium
2008-04-13 12:46 < TheWeasel> *schwülp* *schwüllllllllp*
2008-04-13 12:47 * TheWeasel used to be fascinated by the town of Ipswich in Suffolk.
2008-04-13 12:47 < notagerbil> French humour is very pure, primitive. I could well imagine many of the things that french humour deals with, amused Adam And Eve.
2008-04-13 12:47 < Messedrocker> is Angela Merkel a good President?
2008-04-13 12:47 < Messedrocker> or is she like our President?
2008-04-13 12:47 < mavhc> then you went there?
2008-04-13 12:47 < TheWeasel> she's kind of like your president, just not quite as strong
2008-04-13 12:48 < Aqwis2> is that a rhetorical question?
2008-04-13 12:48 < TheWeasel> she's well-liked by most people, but she doesn't seem to be doing much
2008-04-13 12:48 < Messedrocker> TheWeasel, I mean, does she have a 20% approval rating?
2008-04-13 12:48 < TheWeasel> (which isn't the worst of things)
2008-04-13 12:48 < TheWeasel> no
2008-04-13 12:48 < notagerbil> How many people here have seen the French television comedy series Venus & Apollo?
2008-04-13 12:48 < TheWeasel> she's pretty well approved-of.
2008-04-13 12:48 * TheWeasel hasn't
2008-04-13 12:48 < toresbe> TheWeasel: huh!?
2008-04-13 12:48 < Messedrocker> if our president were to run for re-election right now, the opponent would win in a landslide
2008-04-13 12:48 < toresbe> Merckel is a very active presiden.
2008-04-13 12:48 < toresbe> t.
2008-04-13 12:48 < notagerbil> It abso-fucking brilliant.
2008-04-13 12:48 < TheWeasel> Yea, she's never home.
2008-04-13 12:48 < Aqwis2> are you french, Messedrocker?
2008-04-13 12:49 < Messedrocker> United Statesian
2008-04-13 12:49 < Aqwis2> oh.
2008-04-13 12:49 < TheWeasel> P.S.: she's a chancelloress, not a president.
2008-04-13 12:49 < magical_wimt> Messedrocker: a land-slide?
2008-04-13 12:49 < magical_wimt> that's an understatement
2008-04-13 12:49 < Messedrocker> ah right, Chancellor
2008-04-13 12:49 < magical_wimt> I think unanimous is better Messedrocker
2008-04-13 12:49 < notagerbil> Likewise Le Visiteurs
2008-04-13 12:49 * White_Cat slides some land on Messedrocker
2008-04-13 12:49 < Messedrocker> magical_wimt, nah, there's still three people who like Bush
2008-04-13 12:49 < magical_wimt> Messedrocker: XD
2008-04-13 12:49 < TheWeasel> the president is more like the Queen of England.
2008-04-13 12:49 < magical_wimt> Messedrocker: who
2008-04-13 12:49 < notagerbil> (the original movie that is, not the american remake)
2008-04-13 12:49 < TheWeasel> just elected
2008-04-13 12:49 < White_Cat> Messedrocker yes
2008-04-13 12:49 < White_Cat> one is dick cheney
2008-04-13 12:50 < White_Cat> other is the head of fox news
2008-04-13 12:50 < White_Cat> and lastly ms rice
2008-04-13 12:50 * magical_wimt proposes taking down the 2 term rule.....and placing Hillary vs. Bush on the ballot
2008-04-13 12:50 < magical_wimt> Hillary vs. Bush vs. wimt
2008-04-13 12:50 < White_Cat> magical_wimt bush would win
2008-04-13 12:50 < TheWeasel> vs. Cthulhu
2008-04-13 12:50 < White_Cat> both wimt and hillary are terible
2008-04-13 12:50 < magical_wimt> White_Cat: XD
2008-04-13 12:50 < wimt> :-o
2008-04-13 12:50 < Fennec> wimt is just there to steal the hillary vote!!!zomg
2008-04-13 12:51 < magical_wimt> O_o
2008-04-13 12:51 < White_Cat> I say walter for prez
2008-04-13 12:51 < TheWeasel> Hillary and Cthulhu fighting over the evil vote.
2008-04-13 12:51 < magical_wimt> hmm...the PA primary must be pretty soon
2008-04-13 12:51 < magical_wimt> maybe this tuesday OO
2008-04-13 12:51 * magical_wimt checks
2008-04-13 12:51 * TheWeasel seriously has no idea who votes for Hillary, ever since I've been interested in politics I've only ever met opponents of hers.
2008-04-13 12:51 < Messedrocker> What is American humor like?
2008-04-13 12:51 < White_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8--lrON9yzs
2008-04-13 12:52 < magical_wimt> still 0 ?O_O
2008-04-13 12:52 < magical_wimt> Messedrocker: O_O?
2008-04-13 12:52 * magical_wimt notes Messedrocker is American
2008-04-13 12:52 * magical_wimt is confused
2008-04-13 12:52 < TheWeasel> Usual American humor is slap-your-leg
2008-04-13 12:52 < TheWeasel> pretty straightforward
2008-04-13 12:52 < Messedrocker> I want to see an outsider interpretation of American humor
2008-04-13 12:52 < magical_wimt> Messedrocker: oh O_o
2008-04-13 12:52 < Messedrocker> and I agree it is very straightforward
2008-04-13 12:52 < Messedrocker> subtle nuances is for the god damn limeys
2008-04-13 12:52 * magical_wimt asks the very un-american un-patriotic wimt
2008-04-13 12:52 < TheWeasel> Weird people like Hedberg aside
2008-04-13 12:53 * wimt sticks to British humour.
2008-04-13 12:53 * magical_wimt has something funny
2008-04-13 12:53 < magical_wimt> O_o
2008-04-13 12:54 * TheWeasel loves American humor in the shape of Wilder and Mark Twain
2008-04-13 12:54 < magical_wimt> wimt: this weird girl from my school was starting to walk home...so as the bus passed her......she's walking with a stick and using it like a cane
2008-04-13 12:55 < Mww113> Sweet! 2000 featureds
2008-04-13 12:56 * TheWeasel loves the way Angela Merkel chews on English words like "opposition" ("opposüschn!")
2008-04-13 12:56 < TheWeasel> "Angie" sounds like Bavarian for "one ski"
2008-04-13 12:56 < toresbe> TheWeasel: alright, bundeskansler :)
2008-04-13 12:56 < toresbe> but still.
2008-04-13 12:57 < toresbe> (just yesterday, she was in Oslo, and I waved at her, wooo.)
2008-04-13 12:57 < TheWeasel> well, she's not leading an awful lot, she says obvious things in foreign parliaments.
2008-04-13 12:57 < TheWeasel> But as I said, might be for the best.
2008-04-13 12:58 < notagerbil> American humor is basically, get a lot of people from different ethnic groups together, and hilarity ensues...
2008-04-13 12:58 < TheWeasel> Yep.
2008-04-13 12:59 < notagerbil> Basically the Golden Girls formula
2008-04-13 12:59 < notagerbil> Also All in the Family
2008-04-13 12:59 < TheWeasel> Or like that one guy always plays gay men.
2008-04-13 13:00 < TheWeasel> there's a whole lot of identity humor, that's true.
2008-04-13 13:00 < notagerbil> you mean sterotype humor, but are too nice to say that...
2008-04-13 13:01 < TheWeasel> not necessarily.
2008-04-13 13:01 < TheWeasel> that's at the low end of it
2008-04-13 13:01 < notagerbil> perhaps
2008-04-13 13:02 < notagerbil> I'll tell you though, what I thought was the best bit of American humor I ever saw...