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2008-04-09 08:07 < White_Cat> szszsz
2008-04-09 08:07 < zocky> AdamBishop, slovenian for bumblebee is "čmrlj"
2008-04-09 08:07 < AdamBishop> heh
2008-04-09 08:07 < zocky> and serbocroatian for "hardening" is stvrdnjavanje
2008-04-09 08:08 < AdamBishop> Arabic for slave is "abd" (and that's not really an "a", it's a weird consonant)
2008-04-09 08:08 < Cyrius> http://ifaq.wap.org/society/voweldeployment.html
2008-04-09 08:09 < zocky> perfectly pronouncable to my slavic phonetic processor
2008-04-09 08:09 < zocky> the only consonant clusters that are hard for me are initial "mb", "mp", "nd", "ng"
2008-04-09 08:10 < zocky> we start words with "pt", "ht", "tk" and whatnot
2008-04-09 08:10 < Messedrocker> when arabic is transliterated into english informally, they'll use numbers to represent certain letters that don't have proper english equivalents
2008-04-09 08:11 < AdamBishop> yeah, that's weird
2008-04-09 08:11 < zocky> yeah, that looks confusing to me too
2008-04-09 08:11 < AdamBishop> I would have written "3bd" that way
2008-04-09 08:13 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAWarHi0OgE <-- heh
2008-04-09 08:16 < Cyrius> "But P2P fell behind this year; for the first time in four years, HTTP traffic is out in front."
2008-04-09 08:18 < zocky> Cyrius, zomg, that must mean there are pirate sites on http that we don't know about!
2008-04-09 08:18 < Cyrius> youtube
2008-04-09 08:18 < zocky> yeah, I was thinking the same thing actually
2008-04-09 08:18 < zocky> and other video sites
2008-04-09 08:18 < zocky> though all of them combined probably don't get as much traffic as youtube
2008-04-09 08:19 < Cyrius> they're saying youtube is 20% of HTTP traffic
2008-04-09 08:32 < NotACow> moo
2008-04-09 08:39 < ShakespeareFan00> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:ShakespeareFan00/OpenRailMap
2008-04-09 08:39 < ShakespeareFan00> Anyone care to assist?
2008-04-09 08:46 < TheWeasel> Brb.
2008-04-09 08:54 < Mark_Ryan> isn't anyone going to greet me?
2008-04-09 08:54 < Qst> Hello, Mark
2008-04-09 08:54 < Mark_Ryan> hi, Qst!
2008-04-09 08:54 < Qst> :)
2008-04-09 08:55 < White_Cat> sorr Mark_Ryan
2008-04-09 08:55 < Messedrocker> hi qxz
2008-04-09 08:55 < White_Cat> was busy preparing a millitary parade to greet you
2008-04-09 08:56 < studentA> can help me with a question?
2008-04-09 08:58 < Mark_Ryan> it depends on the question
2008-04-09 08:59 < White_Cat> studentA we can only determine the answer to that after you ask the question
2008-04-09 09:03 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: Oh, nice, I'm reading about a push for the ERA to be ratified
2008-04-09 09:03 < Mike_H> like 30 years too late
2008-04-09 09:04 < Mark_Ryan> is the ERA something good?
2008-04-09 09:04 < Mike_H> It's the amendment to cement equal rights for women.
2008-04-09 09:04 < Mike_H> equal
2008-04-09 09:04 < Mike_H> rights
2008-04-09 09:04 < Mike_H> amendment
2008-04-09 09:04 < Mike_H> ERA
2008-04-09 09:05 < Mark_Ryan> oh. aren't there already equal rights?
2008-04-09 09:05 < Mike_H> Women in the US are still, on average, paid only 70 or 75 cents to what men make per dollar.
2008-04-09 09:05 < Mike_H> They can vote and stuff
2008-04-09 09:05 < Mike_H> but they want economic equality too
2008-04-09 09:05 < Messedrocker> Mike_H, for some reason i am suspicious of those statistics
2008-04-09 09:06 < studentA> okay, not sure if u can receive this link
2008-04-09 09:06 < studentA> http://smb.chs.edu.sg/emb/chs_student/attach/0804090361394884.doc
2008-04-09 09:06 < studentA> if not i describe the q here
2008-04-09 09:06 < Messedrocker> Mike_H, those statistics can only really be accurate when you're looking at a single company and the men and women in question are equally qualified
2008-04-09 09:07 < Messedrocker> hmm, actually, since they're ratios they can be company independent
2008-04-09 09:07 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: One of the many ways an amendment to the constitution can be passed is if three quarters of the states specific assemblies pass the law.
2008-04-09 09:07 < Messedrocker> but still you have to compare exact qualifications
2008-04-09 09:07 < Mike_H> In the US
2008-04-09 09:08 < Mike_H> that means 38 states out of 50.
2008-04-09 09:08 < Mike_H> 35 states have passed it.
2008-04-09 09:08 < Mark_Ryan> that's quite interesting
2008-04-09 09:08 < Mike_H> Only three are needed to actually make it an amendment, despite the ERA heyday being over 25 years ago.
2008-04-09 09:08 < Mark_Ryan> we don't have any equivalent way of passing federal legislation using state legislatures
2008-04-09 09:09 < Messedrocker> mike_h it's also expired
2008-04-09 09:09 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: No, past case law has not expired those rulings.
2008-04-09 09:09 < Mike_H> It'd still be lega.
2008-04-09 09:09 < Mike_H> *legal.
2008-04-09 09:09 < Messedrocker> but haven't extensions on its life been ruled illegitimate?
2008-04-09 09:10 < Mike_H> An article published in the William and Mary Journal of Women and the Law in 1997[15] explains a legal rationale for the "three-state strategy." It argues that:
2008-04-09 09:10 < Mike_H> The 35 ratifications from state legislatures during the 1970s remain valid;
2008-04-09 09:10 < studentA> pls help me with this >>> http://smb.chs.edu.sg/emb/chs_student/attach/0804090361394884.doc
2008-04-09 09:10 < Mike_H> #
2008-04-09 09:10 < Mike_H> # Rescissions of prior ratifications are not constitutional;
2008-04-09 09:10 < Mike_H> #
2008-04-09 09:10 < Mike_H> # The 1978 extension of the ERA's deadline demonstrates that Congress can amend previously established deadlines; and
2008-04-09 09:10 < Cyrius> I'm not opening a doc file
2008-04-09 09:10 < Mike_H> The Twenty seventh Amendment's 202? year ratification period set a standard of "sufficiently contemporaneous"?a term used during the U.S. Supreme Court's 1921 ruling in Dillon v. Gloss?giving Congress the power to set time limits on constitutional amendments. (Dillon v. Gloss was later modified by Coleman v. Miller, which is also a basis for the Three State Strategy.)
2008-04-09 09:11 < studentA> then can go #math channel? im typing there first
2008-04-09 09:13 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: So the three-state strategy would work, and it would become immediately ratified upon three more states accepting it.
2008-04-09 09:14 < studentA> do i still need to explain here?
2008-04-09 09:14 < Mark_Ryan> studentA: it's fairly easy
2008-04-09 09:15 < White_Cat> Mike_H so how much people who changed their gender are payed?
2008-04-09 09:15 < White_Cat> $1.75? xD
2008-04-09 09:15 < White_Cat> or hermoprodites?
2008-04-09 09:15 < studentA> explain pls. im just 14 years old
2008-04-09 09:16 < Mark_Ryan> work out the length of the hypoteneuse where the string is taut up to one of the open corners of the area. subtract that from the length of the string to get the length of string able to go beyond either of the corners. work out the area of the two circles from either open corner, work out the area of the square, work out the area of the circle sector extending straight out from the point
2008-04-09 09:16 < JessicaTaylor> studentA: I'm 1 year older than you!
2008-04-09 09:17 < studentA> area of square?
2008-04-09 09:17 < studentA> u mean the rectangle U?
2008-04-09 09:17 < Mark_Ryan> yp
2008-04-09 09:17 < Mark_Ryan> *yes
2008-04-09 09:24 < JessicaTaylor> Bye guys and gals
2008-04-09 09:34 < Mark_Ryan> the answer to studentA's question was "127.88 square metres"
2008-04-09 09:35 * Mark_Ryan is glad he can still answer grade 9 maths questions
2008-04-09 09:36 < Mark_Ryan> no wait, that's wrong
2008-04-09 09:36 * Mark_Ryan can't answer grade 9 maths questions after all
2008-04-09 09:37 < Working_Cat> Mathic Phail?
2008-04-09 09:38 < Working_Cat> "Seagull management: Flies in, makes a lot of noise, craps all over everything, then flies away."
2008-04-09 09:38 < Working_Cat> From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pattern#Programming_anti-patterns
2008-04-09 09:39 < zocky> damn, crack attack is addictive
2008-04-09 09:40 < Mike_H> "But let me just reiterate WP:NPOV again, from my point of view". Please, think very carefully about what you said there. 208.72.20.110 16:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
2008-04-09 09:40 < Mike_H> lulz
2008-04-09 09:40 < Working_Cat> lol
2008-04-09 09:41 < Working_Cat> that an IP made that statement was even funnier
2008-04-09 09:41 < Working_Cat> most likely a not-logged-in regular
2008-04-09 09:46 < NotACow> DEATH TO NPOV
2008-04-09 09:46 < Messedrocker> PANGA PANGA
2008-04-09 09:46 < Messedrocker> TOPANGA PANGA
2008-04-09 09:46 < Messedrocker> WHAT KIND OF STUPID NAME IS "TOPANGA"
2008-04-09 09:47 < I_Write_Stuff> Was that not the girl from Boy Meets World?
2008-04-09 09:47 < Messedrocker> was!
2008-04-09 09:48 < I_Write_Stuff> When I was younger she was a hotty
2008-04-09 09:48 < Messedrocker> whats she like now
2008-04-09 09:49 < TheWeasel> Nero was kind of an early Michael Jackson!
2008-04-09 09:49 < TheWeasel> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Young_Nero_Palatino_Inv616.jpg
2008-04-09 09:49 < Messedrocker> nero looks like a fat asshole
2008-04-09 09:49 < Messedrocker> i mean look at his pigface
2008-04-09 09:50 < TheWeasel> I meant the nose...
2008-04-09 09:50 < Messedrocker> yeah
2008-04-09 09:50 < I_Write_Stuff> no clue, havent seen her in a movie since that show was taken off the air
2008-04-09 09:50 < Messedrocker> my cat is pushing on my back
2008-04-09 09:50 < Messedrocker> with his legs
2008-04-09 09:50 < Messedrocker> everytime i lean back he pushes his legs
2008-04-09 09:51 < I_Write_Stuff> Time has not been kind - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004918/ - Topanga
2008-04-09 09:51 < Messedrocker> she
2008-04-09 09:51 < Messedrocker> is
2008-04-09 09:51 < Messedrocker> FAT!
2008-04-09 09:52 < Working_Cat> the cat or the topanga thing
2008-04-09 09:53 * Fabexplosive back
2008-04-09 09:53 < Messedrocker> both
2008-04-09 09:53 < I_Write_Stuff> lol
2008-04-09 09:54 < I_Write_Stuff> Does anyone know of any professional programs that I can use to write articles? Using notepad is becoming a pain to keep track of sources and what information I am pooling from them
2008-04-09 09:55 < Messedrocker> no but you have convinced me to make such a thing
2008-04-09 09:55 < TheWeasel> I haven't found one that combines all those capabilities.
2008-04-09 09:55 < TheWeasel> (I wanted one for my term paper)
2008-04-09 09:55 < Messedrocker> maybe i can make one in visual basic
2008-04-09 09:56 < I_Write_Stuff> I am not sure if it is a layout issue, but I have been using 2 notepad documents and it becomes frustrating to keep track of the sources, what I get from each of them, then input everything back into the article. I then paste it on my talk page and keep using preview until its wikilinked and formatted correctly, all a bit of a pain.
2008-04-09 09:56 < zocky> I_Write_Stuff, which browser do you use?
2008-04-09 09:56 < I_Write_Stuff> Firefox
2008-04-09 09:57 < I_Write_Stuff> I do all my research in the browser window, news archive searches, books.google.com etc.
2008-04-09 09:57 < zocky> I_Write_Stuff, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zocky/Link_Complete might help with the linking at least
2008-04-09 09:58 < I_Write_Stuff> Thats an awesome tool, thanks for the heads up.
2008-04-09 09:58 < zocky> the docs were a bit out of date
2008-04-09 09:59 < zocky> you can actually use tab for the completion
2008-04-09 10:01 < I_Write_Stuff> How does this work? I am on my talk page, I type "[[Mexico" and hit tab, it takes me to the next line, which is for edit summaries, ctrl+tab takes me to next tab and ctrl enter doesnt do anything it seems
2008-04-09 10:02 < Working_Cat> ctrl+space?
2008-04-09 10:03 < I_Write_Stuff> does nothing either
2008-04-09 10:03 < I_Write_Stuff> I use this in the normal edit window correct?
2008-04-09 10:04 < Working_Cat> my eyes....
2008-04-09 10:04 < Working_Cat> they feel all soft and cuddly
2008-04-09 10:04 < Working_Cat> i want to huggle them with my eyelids.
2008-04-09 10:05 * TheWeasel hates the drippingly positive language used in dunning
2008-04-09 10:05 < TheWeasel> "surely it slipped your mind that you owe us 1,538,177.02
2008-04-09 10:06 < I_Write_Stuff> I usually have a hard time keeping track of ammounts that small
2008-04-09 10:06 < Working_Cat> lol
2008-04-09 10:06 < TheWeasel> "you probably have paid that already, if so, disregard letter"
2008-04-09 10:06 < TheWeasel> okay, brb
2008-04-09 10:07 < Working_Cat> dunning?
2008-04-09 10:07 < TheWeasel> Reminding people to pay.
2008-04-09 10:07 < Mike_H> We don't use that word in Murrican.
2008-04-09 10:08 < TheWeasel> I don't know what the legal term is over there
2008-04-09 10:08 < Mike_H> "reminding people to pay"
2008-04-09 10:08 < Working_Cat> you owe them 1,538,177.02 euros?
2008-04-09 10:08 < TheWeasel> it's basically a reminder when you're past the due date
2008-04-09 10:08 < TheWeasel> no
2008-04-09 10:08 < TheWeasel> that was fictional
2008-04-09 10:08 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Oh, those are called notices.
2008-04-09 10:09 < Working_Cat> so...im guessing 1,538,1.77
2008-04-09 10:09 < TheWeasel> ...combined with a fee later on
2008-04-09 10:09 < TheWeasel> okay
2008-04-09 10:09 < Mike_H> first notice
2008-04-09 10:09 < Mike_H> second notice
2008-04-09 10:09 < Mike_H> and then, usually
2008-04-09 10:09 < Mike_H> final notice
2008-04-09 10:09 < TheWeasel> no, it's a rather small amount really
2008-04-09 10:09 < Working_Cat> todays kids.... just pathetic at managing accounts.
2008-04-09 10:10 < TheWeasel> I wasn't home for a bit.
2008-04-09 10:12 < TheWeasel> but we'll be ok
2008-04-09 10:13 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/haltermannews/lucy.jpg
2008-04-09 10:13 < Mike_H> I altered this photo for all the Wikipedians out there.
2008-04-09 10:13 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-04-09 10:13 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-04-09 10:13 < TheWeasel> I have the strip this thing is from.
2008-04-09 10:13 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: oh?
2008-04-09 10:14 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-04-09 10:14 < TheWeasel> well, in a recent reprint
2008-04-09 10:14 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I didn't know they printed Peanuts in Germany.
2008-04-09 10:14 < TheWeasel> of course they do.
2008-04-09 10:14 < Mike_H> I had to explain Peanuts to an Australian before.
2008-04-09 10:15 < TheWeasel> they've got a pretty good fan base here
2008-04-09 10:15 < TheWeasel> odd
2008-04-09 10:15 < Working_Cat> Mike_H: maybe cuz ozzies dont work for peanuts
2008-04-09 10:15 < Working_Cat> mate
2008-04-09 10:15 < Mike_H> Working_Cat: lolz
2008-04-09 10:15 < Working_Cat> peanuts is popular in india even.
2008-04-09 10:15 < Mike_H> Working_Cat: Are you in India?
2008-04-09 10:16 < Working_Cat> maybe that guy wasnt a hoopy frood afterall
2008-04-09 10:16 < Working_Cat> Mike_H: not atm
2008-04-09 10:18 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: After I had to explain Peanuts to an Australian, I just kind of assumed it was unheard of outside America.
2008-04-09 10:19 < TheWeasel> Far from it.
2008-04-09 10:19 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Yeah, I thought it was weird too. Like, nearly every American can recognize the Peanuts characters.
2008-04-09 10:20 < TheWeasel> they're pretty iconic here
2008-04-09 10:20 < TheWeasel> I don't think there are many people who wouldn't recognize Snoopy at least
2008-04-09 10:20 < NotACow> schnoopy
2008-04-09 10:20 < arcimboldo_> and Charlie Brown.
2008-04-09 10:21 < Mike_H> Well, here, generations of Americans were raised on Peanuts, in the comics and on the TV and in merchandising.
2008-04-09 10:21 < Mike_H> I guess it was the same way in Germany?
2008-04-09 10:21 < arcimboldo_> I think Peanuts were my only source of knowledge about Baseball and Halloween as a child.
2008-04-09 10:21 < NotACow> arcimboldo_: sad.
2008-04-09 10:21 < arcimboldo_> (Halloween has become popular though during the last 15 years).
2008-04-09 10:22 < TheWeasel> Much the same
2008-04-09 10:22 < Mike_H> arcimboldo_: Let me assure you that American kids usually do not get rocks on Halloween.
2008-04-09 10:22 < TheWeasel> Yea, the baseball talk was kind of inaccessible
2008-04-09 10:22 < TheWeasel> to me
2008-04-09 10:22 < NotACow> Mike_H: they do in my neighborhood!
2008-04-09 10:22 < NotACow> you gotta do SOMETHING to get rid of the rocks you dig out of the garden.....
2008-04-09 10:22 < Mike_H> NotACow: You live in Chicagoland, why am I not shocked
2008-04-09 10:22 < TheWeasel> maybe Germans have a sour soul that makes them empathize with Charlie better
2008-04-09 10:22 * NotACow giggles
2008-04-09 10:23 < Mike_H> http://youtube.com/watch?v=sYFfOJPMnsw
2008-04-09 10:23 < Mike_H> I got a rock
2008-04-09 10:23 < Mike_H> :DDD
2008-04-09 10:23 * Krimpet_ remembers pulling footballs away from melon-headed boys many a time as a child
2008-04-09 10:23 < NotACow> where did you find melon-headed boys?
2008-04-09 10:24 < Mike_H> NotACow: She charged them psychiatric advice for five cents, of course.
2008-04-09 10:24 < NotACow> heh
2008-04-09 10:24 < NotACow> Mike_H: today it would be $50 and the advice would be just as good
2008-04-09 10:24 < Mike_H> heh
2008-04-09 10:24 < Krimpet> 5¢? i assure you, I'm worth at least 200 times that. :)
2008-04-09 10:25 < Mike_H> You're worth $10?
2008-04-09 10:25 < Krimpet> yes, a cool sawbuck. ;)
2008-04-09 10:25 < NotACow> a bucksaw
2008-04-09 10:26 < NotACow> muckraker
2008-04-09 10:26 < NotACow> buckwheat
2008-04-09 10:26 < NotACow> fuckbunny
2008-04-09 10:26 < Mike_H> "Who hasn't traded a little quick sex in a toilet cubicle for a sawbuck before?"
2008-04-09 10:26 < Mike_H> -Brenda Dickson
2008-04-09 10:34 < reagleBRKLN> hi, i'd like to use the WP logo in a publication but this [1] says permission is needed, without specifying how to ask for it. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikipedia-logo.png
2008-04-09 10:35 < NotACow> reagleBRKLN: contact the Foundation office.
2008-04-09 10:35 < NotACow> golbez.
2008-04-09 10:36 < Golbez> yo
2008-04-09 10:36 < reagleBRKLN> the wikipedia-logo page is locked, but perhaps someone could add a link to http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Contact_us
2008-04-09 10:37 < NotASpy> reagleBRKLN: send an e-mail to info-en@wikimedia.org and I'll make sure it's forwarded onto Cary or Mike, the people who will deal with such a request.
2008-04-09 10:37 < reagleBRKLN> NotASpy: ok
2008-04-09 10:37 * TheWeasel wonders if crucifixion still happens
2008-04-09 10:38 < TheWeasel> "As of 2000, Yemen provides for non-lethal crucifixion of criminals, though this punishment is apparently reserved for those also condemned to death.[6]"
2008-04-09 10:38 < TheWeasel> o.o
2008-04-09 10:44 < Lycurgus> ftr, a sawbuck is $5.
2008-04-09 10:45 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: a sawbuck is $5 itself, or is it something that costs $5?
2008-04-09 10:45 < Lycurgus> at least I always thought so. wp says 10.
2008-04-09 10:45 < Lycurgus> but wp is rife with innaccuracies and outright fabrications.
2008-04-09 10:46 < Working_Cat> that didnt answer my Q, except for the fact that since WP isnt a price lookup engine...
2008-04-09 10:47 < Working_Cat> Sawbuck(s) also refers to a dime bag of marijuana in inner city Chicago.[citation needed]
2008-04-09 10:47 < Lycurgus> guess I was wrong, makes sense since it's slang of a prior generation
2008-04-09 10:48 < HumbertHumbert> With today's technology, is it possible to test if my TV has been subjected to impact (such as somebody dropping it) without any physical exterior evidence?
2008-04-09 10:49 < Lycurgus> are you blind?
2008-04-09 10:50 < Lycurgus> is the tv less than 5kg?
2008-04-09 10:50 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: i think he means that suppose someone dropped it, but it didnt scratch/chip but internals might have been shaken up
2008-04-09 10:51 < Thehelpfulone2> Lycurgus: lol
2008-04-09 10:51 < Working_Cat> also, be nice to people with repitetive nicks
2008-04-09 10:51 < Lycurgus> maybe it's outer casing is rubber or neutronium or sumthin
2008-04-09 10:52 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: what he is concerned is more likely than it seems.
2008-04-09 10:52 < HumbertHumbert> I'd assume that a "shock measure device" would be needed to be inside the TV.
2008-04-09 10:53 < HumbertHumbert> Can it really be measured post impact?
2008-04-09 10:53 < I_Write_Stuff> To be 100% sure any dmg was done due to falling or jolts, I would agree
2008-04-09 10:53 < Lycurgus> i know, smurfs made it so that a impact that left nary a mark nonetheless damaged the electronics
2008-04-09 10:53 < I_Write_Stuff> You probably couldnt attribute any damage necessarily to a fall, even if such damage was detected
2008-04-09 10:55 < Working_Cat> I_Write_Stuff: I Read That Crap
2008-04-09 10:58 < Messedrocker> HumbertHumbert, the LCD screens on laptops are actually very sensitive to any sort of damage
2008-04-09 10:58 < mooboo1> how do i add a link from my userpage to my commons page?
2008-04-09 10:59 < Lycurgus> not just laptops. But those show right away on the screen.
2008-04-09 10:59 < Krimpet> mooboo1: [[commons:User:whatever]]
2008-04-09 10:59 < Lycurgus> mooboo1: there's also a userbox that does that.
2008-04-09 11:00 < mooboo1> oh, thanks
2008-04-09 11:00 < mooboo1> Lycurgus, know which one?
2008-04-09 11:00 < Lycurgus> look at my userboxxen
2008-04-09 11:01 < quanticle> Whoops. Forgot to set myself as away last night.
2008-04-09 11:03 * Working_Cat mews at Schrodinger_Cat
2008-04-09 11:03 < mooboo1> what channel is commons?
2008-04-09 11:03 < mooboo1> i dont know where i find it
2008-04-09 11:04 < Lycurgus> #wikimedia-commons
2008-04-09 11:05 < I_Write_Stuff> Working_Cat: Huh what?>
2008-04-09 11:05 < mooboo1> thanks
2008-04-09 11:05 < Working_Cat> I_Write_Stuff: I_Read_Stuff
2008-04-09 11:06 < Lycurgus> i stuff stuff
2008-04-09 11:06 < Working_Cat> I <redacted> stuff
2008-04-09 11:07 < Working_Cat> Okay, i havent had to buy a personal printer in a while.... so i thought it might be good to ask you guys about it
2008-04-09 11:08 < Working_Cat> I need a printer for printing out occassional stuff, mostly documents and directions...
2008-04-09 11:08 < Working_Cat> what kind of printer would be a good idea?
2008-04-09 11:08 < I_Eat_Stuff> Last time I went to buy printer ink, I found it cheaper to buy a new printer
2008-04-09 11:09 < I_Eat_Stuff> We use HP at my job, P2015 for black and white, C88+ for color
2008-04-09 11:10 < I_Eat_Stuff> I think the P2015 is a laser printer, and the C88+ is a CMYK color inkjet
2008-04-09 11:10 < Working_Cat> I think i saw an HP one at walmart the other day... im highly suspicious of its pages-per-cartridge capacity though
2008-04-09 11:10 < I_Eat_Stuff> Yeah its always false, if you read the fine print its normally based on 30% or less page coverage
2008-04-09 11:11 < I_Eat_Stuff> its generally assuming you are not printer pictures, or any kind of images, just text
2008-04-09 11:11 < I_Eat_Stuff> *printing pictures
2008-04-09 11:11 < Lycurgus> i prefer to let the recipient print a PDF or other file on whatever they want
2008-04-09 11:11 < Working_Cat> I_Eat_Stuff: oh i didnt actually look at the details, but im thinking it wont be anything stellar.
2008-04-09 11:12 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: sometimes you NEED a printout. like taking directions which you cannot always write down, or for printing and mailing out documents.
2008-04-09 11:13 < Lycurgus> true. I have a brother that I paid about $100 for a couple years ago, it's also a fax.
2008-04-09 11:14 < Working_Cat> oh btw, anyone has any idea how much does it cost at fedex-kinkos to print out a couple of docs?
2008-04-09 11:15 * SynergeticMag awakes to find an admin has reopened his AfD's
2008-04-09 11:15 < SynergeticMag> hoo ra
2008-04-09 11:16 < Working_Cat> SynergeticMag: somehow i always find you talking about AfDs
2008-04-09 11:16 < Working_Cat> oh, and, hey maggot!
2008-04-09 11:17 < SynergeticMag> yo
2008-04-09 11:17 < SynergeticMag> yeah i close alot of them
2008-04-09 11:17 < SynergeticMag> and many have complaints
2008-04-09 11:17 < SynergeticMag> but nothing outright wrong
2008-04-09 11:18 * Cream is extremely happy
2008-04-09 11:18 * anon32 eats Cream
2008-04-09 11:18 < Cream> ow!
2008-04-09 11:19 * Cream blocks anon32
2008-04-09 11:21 < Working_Cat> Cream: you mean you constipated him?
2008-04-09 11:21 < Working_Cat> quanticle: you missed my epic rant yesterday
2008-04-09 11:21 < Cream> Working_Cat, i went to the apple genius bar this morning :)
2008-04-09 11:22 < Working_Cat> and?
2008-04-09 11:22 < Cream> they replaced my ipod for free :)
2008-04-09 11:22 < Working_Cat> so?
2008-04-09 11:22 < Cream> the hard drive had a failure and it was still under guarantee
2008-04-09 11:27 < Working_Cat> then?
2008-04-09 11:27 < Cream> I need to go home and resynch it :)
2008-04-09 11:28 < Working_Cat> at 80 gigs, thats a pain
2008-04-09 11:30 < Cream> takes about a hour and a half
2008-04-09 11:44 < mooboo1> where i can find admins?
2008-04-09 11:47 < nsh> #en.wikipedia.admins
2008-04-09 11:47 < nsh> or something like that
2008-04-09 11:47 < nsh> also WP:AN
2008-04-09 11:47 < Messedrocker> no
2008-04-09 11:47 < Working_Cat> mooboo1: [Bad, potentially controversial advice censored]
2008-04-09 11:47 < NotACow> death to admins!
2008-04-09 11:47 < Messedrocker> #wikipedia-en-admins, as you meant to say, is restrictive in access
2008-04-09 11:48 < Working_Cat> nsh: its IRC not HTTP
2008-04-09 11:48 < nsh> /who #wikipedia-en-admins
2008-04-09 11:49 < nsh> you can when do /whois <nick> on members of that list to determine if they are away and how long since they last said something on irc
2008-04-09 11:49 < nsh> *also
2008-04-09 11:49 < NotASpy> or you can just ask for an admin here.
2008-04-09 11:50 < mooboo1> nsh, , nobody there
2008-04-09 11:50 < nsh> then as plode ur self
2008-04-09 11:50 < mooboo1> ok any admin here?
2008-04-09 11:50 < mooboo1> !admin
2008-04-09 11:50 < NotASpy> yes
2008-04-09 11:50 < GDonato> mooboo1: yep
2008-04-09 11:50 < mooboo1> ok who is?
2008-04-09 11:51 < NotASpy> about a quarter of the channel, probably.
2008-04-09 11:51 < GDonato> quite a few
2008-04-09 11:51 < mooboo1> ok, any admin here that want help me? raise your hand!
2008-04-09 11:51 * GDonato raises NotASpy's hand
2008-04-09 11:51 < NotASpy> how can I help, mooboo1 ?
2008-04-09 11:52 < mooboo1> NotASpy, you're an admin?
2008-04-09 11:52 < NotASpy> yes.
2008-04-09 11:52 < mooboo1> ok, can you move my wikicommons user account, so it have same name as my wikipedia user account?
2008-04-09 11:53 < NotASpy> no.
2008-04-09 11:53 < mooboo1> ok :(
2008-04-09 11:53 < mooboo1> what can you do?
2008-04-09 11:53 < NotASpy> you need a bureaucrat for that.
2008-04-09 11:53 < mooboo1> you must have some powers
2008-04-09 11:53 < Working_Cat> so much for being subtle
2008-04-09 11:53 < mooboo1> oh
2008-04-09 11:53 * GDonato points to #wikimedia-commons
2008-04-09 11:53 < mooboo1> can you rename an image on commons?
2008-04-09 11:54 < NotASpy> also no.
2008-04-09 11:54 < mooboo1> wow
2008-04-09 11:54 < mooboo1> you're like a superhero with no powers
2008-04-09 11:54 < mooboo1> what can you do?
2008-04-09 11:54 < NotASpy> images can't be renamed, it's a software limitation.
2008-04-09 11:54 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: :DD
2008-04-09 11:54 < NotASpy> I can delete the image with the wrong name, if you upload the image again with the correct name.
2008-04-09 11:54 < Mike_H> I found an online menu
2008-04-09 11:54 < Mike_H> for Mr Dunderbaks
2008-04-09 11:54 < mooboo1> hmm ok
2008-04-09 11:54 < Mike_H> this German restaurant/pub in town
2008-04-09 11:55 < Mike_H> do you want to see what's on the menu?
2008-04-09 11:55 < Leslie_S> bleh, i wish i had a job that wasnt a total joke
2008-04-09 11:57 < GDonato> mooboo1: someone on http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=&group=bureaucrat&limit=50 <<< that list for the rename
2008-04-09 11:57 < GDonato> of the account
2008-04-09 11:57 < NotACow> all jobs are a joke
2008-04-09 11:58 < Leslie_S> NotACow are all companies managed as stupidly as walmart?
2008-04-09 11:58 < Leslie_S> NotACow and i wouldnt mind having a union job, just to piss on them ;p
2008-04-09 11:58 < NotACow> Leslie_S: walmart is rather well-managed for a company that size
2008-04-09 11:59 < Leslie_S> NotACow oh, really?
2008-04-09 11:59 < Leslie_S> NotACow thats sad.
2008-04-09 12:00 < Leslie_S> NotACow the thing that really bugs me though, is how they have these people in bentonville who design the "modules" (essentially, layouts of where things go in an aisle), and these people apparently have NEVER BEEN IN A STORE
2008-04-09 12:03 < Leslie_S> http://www.oldpeoplearefunny.com/sound/pizza_health_regulations.mp3
2008-04-09 12:03 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-04-09 12:10 < Working_Cat> Leslie_S: hmmm... i've heard you say that before
2008-04-09 12:10 < Working_Cat> the part about the design people never having been in a store
2008-04-09 12:15 < Lycurgus> generally corporate professionals working in chain store corporate sites wouldn't go to store unless some kina special requirement called for it
2008-04-09 12:15 < Lycurgus> also, a person making professional wages would tend not to shop at walmart
2008-04-09 12:16 < Lycurgus> as a display of false class consciousness
2008-04-09 12:16 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: considering they are hired my walmart, i doubt if they make professional wages.
2008-04-09 12:16 < uberpenguin> I think that assertion is tenuous at best
2008-04-09 12:16 < Working_Cat> uberpenguin: mine or Lycurgus '
2008-04-09 12:17 < uberpenguin> the one stating that professionals tend not to shop at wal mart
2008-04-09 12:17 < Working_Cat> do software people count as professionals?
2008-04-09 12:17 < Lycurgus> well I never was in a walmart till I moved out of the NYC area which doesn't have them
2008-04-09 12:17 < Lycurgus> since then I've shopped there a lot and have observed the clientele
2008-04-09 12:18 < Lycurgus> it's well known and indeed a shibboleth of american culture that walmart caters to low income shoppers
2008-04-09 12:19 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: are you low income?
2008-04-09 12:19 < Lycurgus> the fact that some millionaires or billions shop there is irrelevant to the qualitative fact
2008-04-09 12:20 < Lycurgus> I am low income in some years, middle in others.
2008-04-09 12:21 < Working_Cat> Lycurgus: interesting.
2008-04-09 12:21 < Working_Cat> though yeah, i have seen 'middle to higher' income people shop else where just cuz "its not walmart"
2008-04-09 12:22 < Working_Cat> not that they loathe walmart or never go in there... just that they associate walmart with their lower income days.
2008-04-09 12:23 < Lycurgus> concievable high income in the future and I will certainly still shop at Hldis, Walmart, etc. as they offer best value on some things and/or are convenient.
2008-04-09 12:23 < Lycurgus> that and I loath bourgey affectation
2008-04-09 12:28 < TheWeasel> This
2008-04-09 12:28 < TheWeasel> http://www.neureichenau.de/
2008-04-09 12:28 < TheWeasel> is a bad website
2008-04-09 12:29 < TheWeasel> boy is it ever
2008-04-09 12:29 < anon32> thanks for telling us *after*
2008-04-09 12:29 < TheWeasel> It's harmless
2008-04-09 12:29 < TheWeasel> just bad
2008-04-09 12:29 < Leslie_S> http://www.phonelosers.org/media/theater_automated_system.mp3
2008-04-09 12:30 < Leslie_S> Lycurgus no, i mean, they seem to have never been in ANY STORE AT ALL
2008-04-09 12:40 < NotACow> MOO!
2008-04-09 12:42 < Leslie_S> bah, why does the volume control suck on most landline phones?
2008-04-09 12:42 < NotACow> landline phones have volumne controls?
2008-04-09 12:42 < Leslie_S> NotACow mine has hi/lo
2008-04-09 12:42 < Leslie_S> hmm.. this one doesnt. the one in the other room does though.
2008-04-09 12:43 < Leslie_S> the phones at the print shop i used to work at did, but when id call to order pizzas and the lady would talk too quiet, i could barely hear her at all. i should have gone "HELLO, IM STANDING NEXT TO A FUCKING PRINTING PRESS. WANT TO TALK LOUDER?"
2008-04-09 12:43 < Leslie_S> but im not like that.
2008-04-09 12:43 * Leslie_S is actually on the phone with walmart right now, lol.
2008-04-09 12:49 < Leslie_S> seriously, wtf
2008-04-09 12:49 < Leslie_S> i'm still not approved for a walmart credit card
2008-04-09 12:49 < Leslie_S> come ON, you offer a 22% interest credit card, and then expect people to have years and years of awesome credit?
2008-04-09 12:50 < Leslie_S> (im applying because they have some good deals on 0% interest for certain purchases at walmart for associates who have walmart credit cards...)
2008-04-09 13:10 < Working_Cat> Leslie_S: does walmart offer printing services for like a couple pages worth of docs?
2008-04-09 13:16 < kraupu> labas
2008-04-09 13:45 < Working_Cat> brb
2008-04-09 14:00 < Ceiling_Cat> greetings fellow katz
2008-04-09 14:01 < Messedrocker> do i look like a jew to you?
2008-04-09 14:02 < Ceiling_Cat> no, but the snout, whiskers and tail are a dead giveaway
2008-04-09 14:04 * Messedrocker accuses Ceiling_Cat of antisemitism
2008-04-09 14:06 < Ningyou> would anyone happend to remember what was the sentence "There and back again" in japanese?
2008-04-09 14:06 < Ningyou> I don't mean the literate translation, but the one they use in books all the time
2008-04-09 14:07 < Alkivar> your making a japanese lord of the rings porno arent you
2008-04-09 14:07 * denelson83 slaps Alkivar
2008-04-09 14:07 < Ningyou> errr
2008-04-09 14:07 < Ceiling_Cat> MAOR KATZ! MAOR PORN!
2008-04-09 14:07 < Alkivar> denelson83: you know there probably already is one
2008-04-09 14:08 < Ceiling_Cat> ABORTIONS FOR SOME, MINIATURE AMERICAN FLAGS FOR OTHERS!
2008-04-09 14:08 < Ningyou> I remember that it was used in quite a few books other than the Tolkien one
2008-04-09 14:10 < Alkivar> try #wikipedia-ja
2008-04-09 14:11 < HumbertHumbert> You know those Web services that are able to figure out what other sites are hosted on the IP address of a given hostname/domain/IP address? How exactly do they do this? And where can I find one?
2008-04-09 14:13 < NotACow> HumbertHumbert: mystic forces
2008-04-09 14:27 < Messedrocker> what is the difference between beta and eszett
2008-04-09 14:28 < quanticle> Bored.
2008-04-09 14:29 < quanticle> My class got canceled, so I'm just chillin' in the lab...
2008-04-09 14:32 < Lycurgus> what class?
2008-04-09 14:33 < Lycurgus> beta is a greek character, eszett of Schalters s is german
2008-04-09 14:33 < Lycurgus> *or
2008-04-09 14:33 < Lycurgus> and is a ligature for ss or sz.
2008-04-09 14:34 < Lycurgus> so the sounds aren't even close
2008-04-09 14:35 < Lycurgus> also the glyphs, although similar are not the same
2008-04-09 14:39 < Ceiling_Cat> Messedrocker - they are two totally difference characters
2008-04-09 14:39 < Ceiling_Cat> they happen to look similiar, but they are not the same
2008-04-09 14:39 < shimgray> it's an actual ligature, isn't it?
2008-04-09 14:39 < shimgray> long-s short-s
2008-04-09 14:39 < Ceiling_Cat> it's like using a zero to the letter o
2008-04-09 14:39 < Messedrocker> i know ceiling cat
2008-04-09 14:39 < shimgray> becomes straight line then twiddly, becomes "something like a beta"
2008-04-09 14:39 < Ceiling_Cat> to represente*
2008-04-09 14:39 < Messedrocker> i was asking what the physical differences were
2008-04-09 14:40 < shimgray> and then we adopt the beta-glyph
2008-04-09 14:41 < Lycurgus> you really need a Fraktur font to see the german glyph properly
2008-04-09 14:41 < Messedrocker> doesn't beta have a tail
2008-04-09 14:41 < Messedrocker> whereas eszet doesn't?
2008-04-09 14:41 < Lycurgus> i.e. to see what the others are trying reproduce.
2008-04-09 14:42 < Working_Cat> !spambot
2008-04-09 14:42 < werdan7> link?
2008-04-09 14:42 < shimgray> Messedrocker: You get a lot of variance in both.
2008-04-09 14:42 < Working_Cat> werdan7: www.google.com/maps
2008-04-09 14:45 < Lycurgus> eszett is supposed to be two script lower case s'es one on top of the other [[eszett]] shows this.
2008-04-09 14:45 < Rinn> A squiggly?
2008-04-09 14:47 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Literature
2008-04-09 14:58 < quanticle> Bored bored board.
2008-04-09 15:02 * NotACow ties quanticle's toes in knots
2008-04-09 15:05 < NotACow> http://paxety.com/News/brown.html <- hee hee
2008-04-09 15:05 < rocketmaster000> I have a question: Why did you delete the page on Endless Online?
2008-04-09 15:06 < Rinn> It must've brought down Wikipedia's pristine reputation among whomever the deletionists keep referring to.
2008-04-09 15:07 < rocketmaster000> It's a good game, and i want the page to be undeleted.
2008-04-09 15:08 < rocketmaster000> You're an encyclopedia. If you keep deleting pages, you'll end up having nothing.
2008-04-09 15:09 < kingturtle> gmorning
2008-04-09 15:09 < rocketmaster000> Morning.
2008-04-09 15:09 < Lycurgus> quanticle: Acknowledged.
2008-04-09 15:14 < NotACow> DELETE EVERYTHING!
2008-04-09 15:15 < MessedRawker> what about you
2008-04-09 15:17 < Ceiling_Cat> Childhoodsend is now POV pushing at the Big Bang article
2008-04-09 15:17 < Ceiling_Cat> apparently he wants a 'criticism of the big bang' section
2008-04-09 15:17 < Ceiling_Cat> based on the two or three quacks left in the world who disagree with that theory
2008-04-09 15:18 < IceKarma> ugh
2008-04-09 15:19 < shimgray> Ceiling_Cat: isn't the current solution to just wait until the opponents die?
2008-04-09 15:19 < shimgray> I mean, it worked with Hoyle...
2008-04-09 15:19 < Ceiling_Cat> shimgray - one of the [few] reputable people he is citing has been dead for 20+ years
2008-04-09 15:19 < shimgray> drat.
2008-04-09 15:20 < Ceiling_Cat> that doesn't stop a reprobate POV pusher from dragged up their bones to push an anti-science POV
2008-04-09 15:20 * IceKarma wishes she could hurry up and wait faster, for a few things.
2008-04-09 15:20 < HumbertHumbert> Why is Alex Kidd marked as the "predecessor" of Sonic the Hedgehog on Wikipedia?
2008-04-09 15:20 < shimgray> HumbertHumbert: God knows.
2008-04-09 15:20 < shimgray> look at the discussion page?
2008-04-09 15:22 < HumbertHumbert> Found nothing there...
2008-04-09 15:22 < HumbertHumbert> You know those Web services that are able to figure out what other sites are hosted on the IP address of a given hostname/domain/IP address? How exactly do they do this? And where can I find one?
2008-04-09 15:23 < IceKarma> well
2008-04-09 15:23 < IceKarma> name-based virtual hosting works on your web browser telling the web server which website, specifically, it wants
2008-04-09 15:24 < IceKarma> if you ask the web server for the root document and -don't- mention which webserver you want, you get the "default" one, and you can sometimes go from there
2008-04-09 15:33 < Working_Cat> heh, i loved it how that guy Mark's comments were taken out of context yesterday :D
2008-04-09 15:33 * Ceiling_Cat cuddles with Working_Cat
2008-04-09 15:33 < Working_Cat> i'd have lol'd at pitchforks if it werent so creepy
2008-04-09 15:33 < Working_Cat> eeks get off me
2008-04-09 15:34 < Working_Cat> esp get that trimmer away from me
2008-04-09 15:34 * Ceiling_Cat likes bald pussies
2008-04-09 15:34 * Ceiling_Cat shaves Working_Cat
2008-04-09 15:34 < Working_Cat> :(
2008-04-09 15:34 < Working_Cat> ;_;
2008-04-09 15:34 * Ceiling_Cat takes pixxx, puts them on [[user talk:Ryulong]]
2008-04-09 15:35 * Working_Cat is now known as Sphinx_Cat
2008-04-09 15:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Season three will begin with the third volume, "Villains", on September 15, 2008 with a three-hour premiere. The first-hour will be a clip show of the past two seasons, with the final two-hours being the Heroes season premiere
2008-04-09 15:37 * Ceiling_Cat is now known as Ceiling_Sylar
2008-04-09 15:38 * Working_Cat is now known as Mohinder_Cat
2008-04-09 15:38 * Ceiling_Cat eats Mohinder_Cat's brains, steals his delicious powers
2008-04-09 15:38 < Working_Cat> goody! that way i dont have to watch the seasons I & II
2008-04-09 15:38 < Working_Cat> lol i thought mohinder didnt have any powers
2008-04-09 15:39 < Working_Cat> mohinder did have ops though i think :P
2008-04-09 15:39 < Working_Cat> or would he be an admin
2008-04-09 15:39 * Working_Cat doesnt know.
2008-04-09 15:39 * Working_Cat will be back after these attempts to rip you off...
2008-04-09 15:41 * Ceiling_Cat snickers
2008-04-09 15:41 < HumbertHumbert> Does this post creep you out?
2008-04-09 15:41 < HumbertHumbert> http://www.anontalk.com/topic/1003/Watching_myself_as_a_little_shota_on_tape...
2008-04-09 15:43 * Working_Cat aint clickin that shyt
2008-04-09 15:44 < NotACow> http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2008/04/rep-monique-dav.html <- crazy people
2008-04-09 15:47 < Alkivar> lol worst product infomercial evar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpDZ3WotLXY
2008-04-09 15:47 < IceKarma> Alkivar, did you get the link to the translation I sent you?
2008-04-09 15:47 < Alkivar> I had to check twice to see if this was a Conan O'Brien skit or not.
2008-04-09 15:47 < Alkivar> IceKarma: I did thanks
2008-04-09 15:53 < HumbertHumbert> Working_Cat: What "shyt"? And what is "shyt"?
2008-04-09 15:55 < Working_Cat> shyt = s**t. the link. its a slang and not a qualitative analysis of the content or its provide
2008-04-09 15:55 < Working_Cat> or an attribution without analysis thereof
2008-04-09 15:55 < HumbertHumbert> Okay.
2008-04-09 15:56 < HumbertHumbert> So what made you think it is not something you would want to read?
2008-04-09 15:56 < Working_Cat> <frankly, i have no idea if the last msg even means anything>
2008-04-09 15:56 < Working_Cat> "creep" "anon" "watching myself"
2008-04-09 15:56 < Working_Cat> no sir. thanks.
2008-04-09 15:57 < Working_Cat> also, im at work.
2008-04-09 15:57 < HumbertHumbert> Working cat...
2008-04-09 15:58 < Rinn> Is there a term for getting turned on watching yourself on tape?
2008-04-09 15:58 < IceKarma> autoeroticism?
2008-04-09 15:59 < Cyrius> watching yourself doing what?
2008-04-09 16:00 < Cyrius> I don't have an answer, I just want to know how perverse the question is
2008-04-09 16:00 < Rinn> Anything in particular.
2008-04-09 16:00 < Cyrius> extremely then
2008-04-09 16:00 < Cyrius> "oh yeah, I'm making a sandwich. hawt."
2008-04-09 16:01 < HumbertHumbert> If I have pictures of myself when I was a kid posing nude for some pedo, and the police finds these photos/videos, and they are sure it is me on the material, will I still be charged for child porn possession?
2008-04-09 16:01 < Cyrius> in this country, probably
2008-04-09 16:03 < Broab> HumbertHumbert: 0.0
2008-04-09 16:04 < MessedRawker> Alkivar, To hell with that beamz nonsense. If I want to play a touch-free instrument, I'll play the theramin.
2008-04-09 16:05 < IceKarma> I heard about a case recently where a 15 year old or so girl who was pretending to be 18 was charged for possessing nude pictures -of herself-
2008-04-09 16:07 < Working_Cat> MessedRawker: theramin?
2008-04-09 16:07 < MessedRawker> that weird instrument that doesn't use any touching
2008-04-09 16:07 < MessedRawker> just odd arrangements of hands
2008-04-09 16:07 < Rinn> Cyrius: Who are you to condemn my self-sandwich-making fetish?
2008-04-09 16:07 < Rinn> I just can't resist watching myself place those delicate, hand-sliced meats....
2008-04-09 16:07 < Cyrius> it's weird!
2008-04-09 16:07 * MessedRawker makes Rinn a beef sandwich
2008-04-09 16:08 < shimgray> you know, a year or two back, I witnessed a performance of theremin jazz played by a robot baby on a stick.
2008-04-09 16:08 < shimgray> it was quite definitely the most surreally science-fictional moment I've had for a while.
2008-04-09 16:08 < Rinn> They've got robot babies already?
2008-04-09 16:08 < Cyrius> and they're cheap enough to put on sticks?
2008-04-09 16:08 < gwern> hm. can you copy an image from Voice of America articles?
2008-04-09 16:08 < shimgray> Well, it helps that you only need one or two forms of motion to play the theremin.
2008-04-09 16:09 < Cyrius> it's like a county fair from the future!
2008-04-09 16:09 < shimgray> http://www.flickr.com/photos/shimgray/448707045/ - evidence!
2008-04-09 16:10 < gwern> 'Voice of America (VOA), is the official external radio and television broadcasting service of the United States federal government. Its oversight entity is the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG).' <-- yeah, but does that mean we get their stuff under PD like with federal gov't works?
2008-04-09 16:10 < Cyrius> "2.All text, audio and video material produced exclusively by the Voice of America is public domain. However, some images and graphics are licensed for use and covered by all applicable copyright laws."
2008-04-09 16:10 < Cyrius> you didn't read the right page
2008-04-09 16:11 < gwern> Cyrius: oh. what was the right page?
2008-04-09 16:11 < Cyrius> many of the pictures they use are from the AP and _aren't_ PD
2008-04-09 16:11 < Cyrius> the "terms of use & privacy notice" at the bottom
2008-04-09 16:11 < gwern> the article/pic at issue is from http://www.voanews.com/specialenglish/archive/2005-11/2005-11-15-voa1.cfm
2008-04-09 16:12 < gwern> Cyrius: oh. I'm used to ToU always saying 'anything here belongs to us even when it doesn't' and being unhelpful
2008-04-09 16:12 < Westie> Has anyone heard of, or is anyone here a member of inteligentpeople.com/uk ?
2008-04-09 16:12 < Westie> ironically i spelt intelligent wrong. typical.
2008-04-09 16:13 < Cyrius> gwern: I would say that is likely a PD photo!
2008-04-09 16:13 < gwern> Cyrius: I dunno is the copyright taggers of https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Image:Anu-Garg.jpg would be happy with that
2008-04-09 16:13 < gwern> *if
2008-04-09 16:14 < Cyrius> gwern: VOA tags their AP photos as being AP, their Terms say that's the only thing there that isn't PD
2008-04-09 16:14 < Cyrius> it's PD.
2008-04-09 16:14 < gwern> Cyrius: ah, ok. so there would be a caption or something then for AP photos
2008-04-09 16:14 < Cyrius> http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-04-09-voa25.cfm
2008-04-09 16:14 < Cyrius> got a little thingy on the side sez "AP Photo"
2008-04-09 16:16 * gwern sees
2008-04-09 16:16 < MessedRawker> we're JEWS out in SPACE
2008-04-09 16:16 < The359> again?
2008-04-09 16:16 < MessedRawker> we're zooming along protecting the hebrew RAAAAACE!
2008-04-09 16:17 < Cyrius> gwern: VoA is listed on the PD resources page
2008-04-09 16:17 < HumbertHumbert> You know those Web services that are able to figure out what other sites are hosted on the IP address of a given hostname/domain/IP address? How exactly do they do this? And where can I find one?
2008-04-09 16:17 < Cyrius> the domain is sent with the HTTP request
2008-04-09 16:17 < HumbertHumbert> I am wondering if this is done by querying DNS somehow or if it is just using search engine indexes or something.
2008-04-09 16:17 < Cyrius> er
2008-04-09 16:17 < Cyrius> bah
2008-04-09 16:18 < Cyrius> I can't get my damn brain in gear
2008-04-09 16:18 < kingturtle> rehi