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2008-04-08 15:59 < Working_Cat> TheWeasel_: you missed the point of my msg
2008-04-08 15:59 < TheWeasel_> Oh, yea French keyboards
2008-04-08 15:59 < Working_Cat> and i realize i missed an 'o'
2008-04-08 16:00 < Working_Cat> TheWeasel_: like how the central point of mexico lies in the us... and the central point of us lies in the middle east?
2008-04-08 16:00 < Messedrocker> define
2008-04-08 16:00 < Messedrocker> middle point
2008-04-08 16:00 < TheWeasel_> Well, the median between the northernmost coordinate and the southernmost
2008-04-08 16:00 < TheWeasel_> and the median between the westernmost and the easternmost
2008-04-08 16:01 < Working_Cat> and their intersection
2008-04-08 16:01 < Messedrocker> their intersection
2008-04-08 16:01 < Messedrocker> is the diameter
2008-04-08 16:01 < Messedrocker> danke very much
2008-04-08 16:01 < scorchsaber> bedankt.
2008-04-08 16:01 < TheWeasel_> I know, I know, to avoid the mid point lying outside, people now use the "heaviest part" of a 3D model
2008-04-08 16:01 < Working_Cat> meh
2008-04-08 16:01 < scorchsaber> or danke je
2008-04-08 16:01 < TheWeasel_> but thats a cop-out
2008-04-08 16:02 < Working_Cat> TheWeasel_: how many nations have you set foot in?
2008-04-08 16:02 < TheWeasel_> like the parallel universe theory of time travel and the answer to the question "what is the square root of minus one?" is a cop-out
2008-04-08 16:02 < TheWeasel_> let me count
2008-04-08 16:02 < SonicAD_> so, in late 18th century America, would the letter Z be pronounced zee or zed?
2008-04-08 16:03 < Messedrocker> SonicAD_, Zid
2008-04-08 16:03 < TheWeasel_> Twelve?
2008-04-08 16:03 < TheWeasel_> Possibly thirteen.
2008-04-08 16:03 < TheWeasel_> Plus my own
2008-04-08 16:03 < Working_Cat> awesome
2008-04-08 16:03 < Working_Cat> how many outside europe?
2008-04-08 16:03 < TheWeasel_> Two.
2008-04-08 16:03 < TheWeasel_> (thirteen it is)
2008-04-08 16:03 < Working_Cat> nice
2008-04-08 16:03 < Working_Cat> i've been in 4 including my own
2008-04-08 16:04 < TheWeasel_> well, one is technically not completely in Asia, but I've been to the Asian part.
2008-04-08 16:04 < Working_Cat> India, Neatherlands, Northern US, Southern US
2008-04-08 16:04 < SonicAD_> hm
2008-04-08 16:04 < SonicAD_> okay
2008-04-08 16:04 < TheWeasel_> (Turkey=
2008-04-08 16:04 < Messedrocker> including my own i've been in six
2008-04-08 16:04 < Messedrocker> Working_Cat, the northern US and the southern US are the same country
2008-04-08 16:04 < Working_Cat> TheWeasel_: yeah that happens with turkey
2008-04-08 16:04 < Working_Cat> Messedrocker: didnt feel like it
2008-04-08 16:11 < Working_Cat> chatkill
2008-04-08 16:14 < Working_Cat> meow?
2008-04-08 16:14 < Working_Cat> quanticle|away: how was the test?
2008-04-08 16:14 < Working_Cat> 6 lines... and counting
2008-04-08 16:14 < Working_Cat> also, im not fooling off.
2008-04-08 16:15 < Working_Cat> compiling....
2008-04-08 16:15 < Working_Cat> ze gcc_cat iz compiling
2008-04-08 16:15 < Working_Cat> 10!!!
2008-04-08 16:16 < Working_Cat> I wonder what the max length of a monolouge is on this chan
2008-04-08 16:16 < Working_Cat> whatever it is, i'll break it
2008-04-08 16:16 < Working_Cat> new york
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> new jersey
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> delaware
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> oregon
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> north dakota
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> south dakota
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> north carolina
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> south carolina
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> virginia
2008-04-08 16:17 < Working_Cat> west virginia
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> maryland
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> pennsylvania
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> iowa
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> illinois
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> new hampshire
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> new england
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> maine
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> vermont
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> alaska
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> alabama
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> arizona
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> arkansas
2008-04-08 16:18 < Working_Cat> texas
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> new mexico
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> lousiana
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> kansas
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> florida
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> georgia
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> massachusetts
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> indiana
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> michigan
2008-04-08 16:19 < Working_Cat> tennesse
2008-04-08 16:20 < ggreer> Working_Cat: you forgot poland
2008-04-08 16:20 < Working_Cat> california
2008-04-08 16:20 < Working_Cat> nevada
2008-04-08 16:20 < Working_Cat> ggreer: damn you
2008-04-08 16:20 < Working_Cat> washington
2008-04-08 16:20 < Working_Cat> hawaii
2008-04-08 16:20 < dungodung> err
2008-04-08 16:21 < Working_Cat> colorado
2008-04-08 16:21 < Working_Cat> ohio
2008-04-08 16:21 < Working_Cat> utah
2008-04-08 16:21 * TheWeasel_ is hungary
2008-04-08 16:21 < ST47> ...
2008-04-08 16:21 < Mbimmler> right
2008-04-08 16:21 < Working_Cat> rhode island
2008-04-08 16:21 < ST47> Don't ever do that again
2008-04-08 16:21 < Mbimmler> you're on to olympia records, but now STFU
2008-04-08 16:21 < ggreer> you forgot wyoming
2008-04-08 16:21 < Working_Cat> ST47: me? im just naming states from memory
2008-04-08 16:22 < Mbimmler> Working_Cat: we've got pastebins for that
2008-04-08 16:22 < Mbimmler> I mean, seriously
2008-04-08 16:22 < Working_Cat> well pastebins dont look impressive
2008-04-08 16:22 < ggreer> wyoming is america's poland
2008-04-08 16:22 < Working_Cat> lol at that
2008-04-08 16:22 < Working_Cat> well i got 40 down
2008-04-08 16:22 < Working_Cat> and other 5 i wanna put down
2008-04-08 16:23 < Working_Cat> and im sure i'll get the other 5 too
2008-04-08 16:23 < Inke> TheWeasel: You're a country now?
2008-04-08 16:23 < Working_Cat> but since you people arent impressed, i'll let it be
2008-04-08 16:23 * Inke crawls back into her hole
2008-04-08 16:23 < ST47> Good choice :)
2008-04-08 16:23 < Mbimmler> I'm not impressed, because I could do so too with Wikipedia open in the background :p
2008-04-08 16:23 < ggreer> what good is knowing useless trivia that you can look up faster?
2008-04-08 16:24 < Working_Cat> Mbimmler: theres a bigass module running on my machine
2008-04-08 16:24 < Working_Cat> and basically i was smart enough to have this window open
2008-04-08 16:24 < Working_Cat> everything else is hung
2008-04-08 16:24 < ggreer> module?
2008-04-08 16:25 < Working_Cat> ggreer: drinking games
2008-04-08 16:25 < ggreer> what do you work on?
2008-04-08 16:25 < Working_Cat> erm i mean that what its good for
2008-04-08 16:25 < Working_Cat> as for the module, i cant tell you what it is
2008-04-08 16:25 < ggreer> pfft, it's probably something lame
2008-04-08 16:25 < Working_Cat> but its processing 2035 image files
2008-04-08 16:25 < ggreer> anyone who uses chatzilla can't be working on something cool
2008-04-08 16:26 < Working_Cat> ggreer: well its quite useful for governments, military and basically anyone who has plans to take over the world
2008-04-08 16:26 < Working_Cat> GIS thingy
2008-04-08 16:27 < ggreer> people always overstate the importance of their work
2008-04-08 16:27 < HumbertHumbert> What? Some Dolly Parton fans actually didn't like "Here You Come Again" because it sounded too "professional"?
2008-04-08 16:27 < Working_Cat> ggreer: or the soul crushingness of it
2008-04-08 16:28 < Working_Cat> whos dolly parton
2008-04-08 16:28 < HumbertHumbert> ...
2008-04-08 16:28 < NotACow> Working_Cat: not your mama
2008-04-08 16:28 < HumbertHumbert> Stupid_Cat
2008-04-08 16:28 < Working_Cat> NotACow: moo
2008-04-08 16:28 < ggreer> Working_Cat: if it's soul-crushing then you're definitely not working on something important
2008-04-08 16:28 < Working_Cat> ggreer: i meant that people in general tend to do that
2008-04-08 16:29 < Working_Cat> if it involves programming and free dew, i enjoy it.
2008-04-08 16:32 < ggreer> jeez, the userdb backups are 31GB now
2008-04-08 16:32 < ggreer> err
2008-04-08 16:32 < ggreer> wrong window, disregard
2008-04-08 16:37 < gwern> http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/898/mousevw9.jpg <-- wtf
2008-04-08 16:37 < vixey> :O
2008-04-08 16:38 < gwern> 'Operator: Alright. I want you to know that no matter how much he's in the wrong, it would be unlawful to hurt the child.
2008-04-08 16:38 < gwern> <Thud thud> [Kid trying to push window open]
2008-04-08 16:39 < gwern> Me: That's why I called you instead of shooting him or selling him off to the Malaysian sex trade.
2008-04-08 16:39 < gwern> Operator: We do appreciate that, Sir.
2008-04-08 16:59 < gwern> hm. this is kind of hard to answer
2008-04-08 16:59 < gwern> what is the likelihood that a random human will die of suicide?
2008-04-08 16:59 < gwern> there's plenty of stats on mentally ill people, but not for *everybody*
2008-04-08 17:01 < gwern> or if the stats are general, they're by year
2008-04-08 17:05 < Working_Cat> morbid stats
2008-04-08 17:13 < kingturtle> rehi
2008-04-08 17:13 < Working_Cat> Strike
2008-04-08 17:26 < Working_Cat> meow?
2008-04-08 17:26 < vixey> kon kon
2008-04-08 17:29 < Working_Cat> heh, good
2008-04-08 17:35 < ShakespeareFan00> Right time to lstart nuking links to Wikimapia
2008-04-08 17:35 < WBOSITG> What's that? O.o
2008-04-08 17:35 < ShakespeareFan00> as per Wikipedia views on linking to possible Copyvios )
2008-04-08 17:36 < ShakespeareFan00> Wikimpaia is a site that has geo loacted information over Google Maps - Satellite Imagery
2008-04-08 17:36 < ShakespeareFan00> However, the (C) Status of thier site seems unclear from reading both Google's terms and Wikimapia's own
2008-04-08 17:36 < ShakespeareFan00> It's would be more sensible to mass convert them to OSM links...
2008-04-08 17:37 < ShakespeareFan00> because I Know the OSM license is more compatible...
2008-04-08 17:43 < WBOSITG> ok
2008-04-08 17:43 < WBOSITG> Gah
2008-04-08 17:44 < WBOSITG> Huggle's so slow on weak connectivity
2008-04-08 17:44 < WBOSITG> whoda thunkit?
2008-04-08 17:59 < Working_Cat> whats the article with max number of references?
2008-04-08 17:59 < Working_Cat> in english wikipedia
2008-04-08 17:59 < LawrenceWCohen> there is a max number?
2008-04-08 17:59 < Working_Cat> any way to find out even?
2008-04-08 17:59 < Demi> [[Referential integrity]] maybe
2008-04-08 18:00 < Working_Cat> i mean which one has the most references
2008-04-08 18:00 < Working_Cat> Demi: XD
2008-04-08 18:00 < Working_Cat> [[Augustus has 206]]
2008-04-08 18:01 < Demi> pop-culture references?
2008-04-08 18:01 < Working_Cat> nooo
2008-04-08 18:01 < Working_Cat> i meant the ones at the bottom of the article
2008-04-08 18:01 < Working_Cat> you know what i mean
2008-04-08 18:01 < Working_Cat> the usa article has 215
2008-04-08 18:02 < Working_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usa#cite_note-214
2008-04-08 18:02 < Working_Cat> heh, surprisingly, its not a FA
2008-04-08 18:03 < ShakespeareFan00> Hey any admins in?
2008-04-08 18:03 < Messedrocker> incidentally
2008-04-08 18:03 < ShakespeareFan00> hi Messedrocker
2008-04-08 18:03 < Messedrocker> it is not accurate to combine russia and the soviet union's medal ranking
2008-04-08 18:04 < LawrenceWCohen> I hate when I've read an article I've written dozens of times, then once I put it in for FA or GA they find a dozen stupid typos
2008-04-08 18:05 < LawrenceWCohen> You'd think I'd have noticed them the first 35 read throughs...
2008-04-08 18:06 < Messedrocker> what you should do is put the article through the Veropedia parser
2008-04-08 18:06 < LawrenceWCohen> linky?
2008-04-08 18:06 < Messedrocker> only works if you have an account there
2008-04-08 18:06 < LawrenceWCohen> whats it do?
2008-04-08 18:07 < Messedrocker> puts your article up against a bunch of tests
2008-04-08 18:07 < Messedrocker> like, tests for citation needed
2008-04-08 18:07 < Messedrocker> and there's grammatical tests
2008-04-08 18:08 < Working_Cat> veropedia huh
2008-04-08 18:08 < LawrenceWCohen> shame we don't have a thing like that here
2008-04-08 18:09 < Demi> darn it
2008-04-08 18:09 < Messedrocker> i'm going to ask if the veropedia parser can be made into a public tool
2008-04-08 18:09 < Working_Cat> Moore: What happened?
2008-04-08 18:11 < kingturtle> does anyone here shop on itunes? do all songs cost the same or does it vary?
2008-04-08 18:11 < The359> wtf is with people spelling "début"
2008-04-08 18:11 < Working_Cat> same iirc
2008-04-08 18:11 < The359> is it some British spelling?
2008-04-08 18:11 < vixey> I don't shop on iTunes
2008-04-08 18:11 < vixey> why would anyone? you are buying DRM
2008-04-08 18:12 < Working_Cat> The359: its accented spelling
2008-04-08 18:12 < The359> I know
2008-04-08 18:12 < The359> but why
2008-04-08 18:12 < Working_Cat> to show how its pronounced
2008-04-08 18:12 < kingturtle> no, i am going to be selling on SNOCAP, and i want to know what the norms are
2008-04-08 18:12 < The359> all I can find is that it is listed as an "alternative spelling"
2008-04-08 18:12 < The359> but where is it actually used
2008-04-08 18:12 < Demi> so as not to confuse it with the common english term "debut", pronounced "da butt".
2008-04-08 18:12 < Working_Cat> people do it with "resume" and "fiance" all the time
2008-04-08 18:12 < kingturtle> like dePOT
2008-04-08 18:12 < tommylommykins> Because it's a loanword from French?
2008-04-08 18:13 < The359> I just meant is it a culture difference
2008-04-08 18:13 < The359> like American-British spellings
2008-04-08 18:13 < tommylommykins> no
2008-04-08 18:13 < tommylommykins> No rule on accentin the UK
2008-04-08 18:13 < tommylommykins> *accents in the UK
2008-04-08 18:13 < Demi> ain't nothing wrong / if you want to do debut / all night long
2008-04-08 18:13 < The359> so if someone uses début in an article
2008-04-08 18:13 < The359> leave it alone?
2008-04-08 18:14 < tommylommykins> I dunno
2008-04-08 18:14 * tommylommykins isn't a wikipedian
2008-04-08 18:14 < tommylommykins> But I would be tempted to remove it
2008-04-08 18:14 < The359> This is the second time I've seen it in the past few weeks
2008-04-08 18:14 < The359> last time someone actually changed every instance of "debut" in an article to "début"
2008-04-08 18:14 < ST47> Spell it right :)
2008-04-08 18:15 < kingturtle> hmmm. #itunes is empty
2008-04-08 18:15 < tommylommykins> But any diacritic on a letter in English does nothing to the word
2008-04-08 18:15 < The359> ok, so which is correct ST47
2008-04-08 18:15 < The359> Wiktionary
2008-04-08 18:15 < ST47> Who knows
2008-04-08 18:15 < The359> says Debut
2008-04-08 18:15 < The359> with début as an alternative spelling
2008-04-08 18:15 < ST47> Wiktionary is smart
2008-04-08 18:15 < tommylommykins> I guess including the accent wold be like not rendering chinese wordsi in latin script
2008-04-08 18:16 < tommylommykins> ie. not properly translating
2008-04-08 18:16 < The359> its an article about an Australian cricketer
2008-04-08 18:16 < tommylommykins> However, since debut, with the accent is certainly not unknown
2008-04-08 18:16 < The359> hardly a translation
2008-04-08 18:16 < tommylommykins> Yeah
2008-04-08 18:16 < kingturtle> c'mon, there's gotta be ONE itunes geek in here
2008-04-08 18:16 < ST47> nope :(
2008-04-08 18:16 < Working_Cat> hmm i didnt know aussies did that
2008-04-08 18:16 < kingturtle> wow
2008-04-08 18:16 < tommylommykins> I'm not an expert on the orthography of Australian English
2008-04-08 18:17 < tommylommykins> perhaps the y like their accents over there
2008-04-08 18:17 < tommylommykins> Still, I'd be tmepted to blast the accent
2008-04-08 18:17 < The359> I'll bring it up with the authors
2008-04-08 18:17 < The359> I'm GA reviewing the article
2008-04-08 18:17 < tommylommykins> GA?
2008-04-08 18:17 < Working_Cat> The359: either way is correct. i dont see a problem.
2008-04-08 18:18 < Working_Cat> tommylommykins: good article
2008-04-08 18:18 < clickonce> kingturtle: I'm an iTunes geek.
2008-04-08 18:18 < clickonce> kingturtle: What do you want to know?
2008-04-08 18:18 < Working_Cat> The359: which article btw?
2008-04-08 18:18 * Working_Cat double clicks clickonce
2008-04-08 18:18 < kingturtle> i wanted to know what the going rate for a song was. are they all priced the same? what are the lowest and highest prices for a song
2008-04-08 18:18 < Demi> The359 is giving it the good ol' "Georgia review".
2008-04-08 18:18 < Demi> Which is to say, sodomizing it.
2008-04-08 18:18 < clickonce> kingturtle: Prices are the same.
2008-04-08 18:18 < The359> [[Colin McCool]]
2008-04-08 18:19 < Working_Cat> wt...
2008-04-08 18:19 < kingturtle> all are 99 cents
2008-04-08 18:19 < clickonce> Yes.
2008-04-08 18:19 < The359> all songs are 99 cents
2008-04-08 18:19 < kingturtle> so if someone asked $1.25 people would say WTF
2008-04-08 18:19 < clickonce> Album prices are different though.
2008-04-08 18:19 < The359> but if you buy an album, they're discounted
2008-04-08 18:19 < clickonce> Today iTunes Plus songs are 99 cents as well.
2008-04-08 18:22 < kingturtle> i am going to start selling my songs via SNOCAP on myspace. and i wanted to know what the norms were
2008-04-08 18:22 < kingturtle> SNOCAP takes 39%, so i was thinking of charging $1.25 instead of $0.99
2008-04-08 18:22 < Working_Cat> kingturtle: 1. most people dont buy songs.
2008-04-08 18:22 * clickonce buys all his music
2008-04-08 18:22 < The359> 1 person buys the songs
2008-04-08 18:23 < The359> 100 people get it from him
2008-04-08 18:23 < kingturtle> yes yes. i know that
2008-04-08 18:23 < kingturtle> that's not my question
2008-04-08 18:23 < Working_Cat> 2. they'd rather buy from well known iTunes for 99 than to buy at 1.25 from a relatively unknown source
2008-04-08 18:23 < kingturtle> my question is - would today's intune's consumer think $1.25 was outrageous
2008-04-08 18:23 < Working_Cat> though im sure you have thought over it already
2008-04-08 18:23 < The359> For non-hit songs, I'd say yes
2008-04-08 18:24 < Working_Cat> point 1 was an exaggeration i know.
2008-04-08 18:24 < clickonce> kingturtle: I wouldn't buy it from any source except iTunes regardless of price.
2008-04-08 18:24 < The359> Who wants to pay more for a song they don't even know or might not even like?
2008-04-08 18:24 < kingturtle> working cat, regarding your #2. Myspace users will be happy to use SNOCAP because it is embedded in myspace. they won't even know it is different
2008-04-08 18:24 < clickonce> Btw, I want your opinion, HP, Brother or Canon MFP ink printer?
2008-04-08 18:24 < kingturtle> they'd buy it because they can listen to it
2008-04-08 18:24 < Working_Cat> kingturtle: prolly. im not a myspace user.
2008-04-08 18:25 < The359> people aren't likely to buy a new artist
2008-04-08 18:25 < Melos> http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale%3ARegistri&type=patrol&user=&page= <---bug conosciuto?
2008-04-08 18:25 < The359> they'd rather hear it for free first before they consider buying it
2008-04-08 18:25 < The359> Melos, #wikipedia-it
2008-04-08 18:25 < kingturtle> in myspace, people are very likely to buy music from a non-commercial artist they like.
2008-04-08 18:25 < kingturtle> yes, myspace allows users to listen first
2008-04-08 18:25 < Melos> ops wrong chan sorry
2008-04-08 18:25 < The359> I don't know of anyone on MySpace that buys anything, kingturtle
2008-04-08 18:26 < The359> their pages are just full of free shit
2008-04-08 18:26 < kingturtle> that's because the ability to buy is just starting this week
2008-04-08 18:26 < The359> so how can you say they're very likely?
2008-04-08 18:26 < The359> If you don't know
2008-04-08 18:26 < Working_Cat> i havent bout any 'new' music since.. i dunno, 2000 maybe
2008-04-08 18:26 < kingturtle> because i have dozens of people asking when i'll be ready to sell
2008-04-08 18:26 < clickonce> Working_Cat: Jesus.
2008-04-08 18:26 < Working_Cat> i buy 'old' album cds, every other month though
2008-04-08 18:26 < The359> dozens isn't what I'd call "very likely"
2008-04-08 18:27 < kingturtle> i know my market, thank you
2008-04-08 18:27 < clickonce> I'm buying more music now than I used to thanks to iTunes. (Note that I did not download music before either)
2008-04-08 18:27 < The359> if you say so, kingturtle
2008-04-08 18:27 < kingturtle> i'm not going to make $10,000. but i stand to make $400 a year. which is nice
2008-04-08 18:27 < Working_Cat> clickonce: that does not mean i only pirate it.
2008-04-08 18:28 < Working_Cat> clickonce: except for LP and U2, and some other songs once in a while, i dont like todays music.
2008-04-08 18:28 < Working_Cat> and those i get to listen enough on radio/tv
2008-04-08 18:28 < clickonce> Working_Cat: Okay. :)
2008-04-08 18:28 < kingturtle> i'll go ask someone in the demographic. thanks anyway
2008-04-08 18:32 < TheWeasel_> Ovulate, copulate and populate, vary only slightly in one sound, and thus provide very usable rhymes for most situations in which a rhyme for discombobulate is desired.
2008-04-08 18:32 < TheWeasel_> I don't want anyone to write poetry like that
2008-04-08 18:32 < TheWeasel_> Please.
2008-04-08 18:32 * Working_Cat chuckled
2008-04-08 18:33 < Working_Cat> sounds like someone inspired by Wodehouse+DNA
2008-04-08 18:33 < Demi> i don't write a poem *without* the word "ovulate" in it.
2008-04-08 18:33 < TheWeasel_> Shall I compare thee to a summer's day/thou ovulatest more modestly and temperately
2008-04-08 18:35 * gonnylonnykins gets a particularly thick dictionary out
2008-04-08 18:35 < Alkivar> HARDEST GAME EVAR: http://www.mazapan.se/games/BurnTheRope.php
2008-04-08 18:36 * gonnylonnykins notes it doesn't have an entre for the =ulate suffix :(
2008-04-08 18:37 < The359> uh
2008-04-08 18:37 < The359> I beat it, Alkivar?
2008-04-08 18:38 < The359> wtf
2008-04-08 18:38 < Working_Cat> "It should be noted that the cover of the book usually bears the tagline "This book will change your life!", either as an integral part of its cover or as an adhesive label. Liff is then defined in the book as "A book, the contents of which are totally belied by its cover. For instance, any book the dust jacket of which bears the words, 'This book will change your life'."
2008-04-08 18:39 * gonnylonnykins also notes it has no entre for discombobulate
2008-04-08 18:39 < Working_Cat> i lol'd in my cubicle
2008-04-08 18:39 < ST47> Link froze my firefox, proceed with caution
2008-04-08 18:40 * gonnylonnykins sticks a "this book will change your life" sticker on the wikipedia front page
2008-04-08 18:41 < Alkivar> The359: clearly you dont have a strong sarcasm detector
2008-04-08 18:42 < The359> o rly?
2008-04-08 18:42 < ShakespeareFan00> Hmm
2008-04-08 18:42 < gwern> I don't care what anyone says. The best song from Cowboy Bebop is 'Green Bird'. Not Space Lion, not Goodnight Julia, not No Reply. Green Bird
2008-04-08 18:42 < ShakespeareFan00> Must be a queit day
2008-04-08 18:42 < The359> Cowboy Bebop?
2008-04-08 18:42 < ShakespeareFan00> No-one moaming about my mass removal of links
2008-04-08 18:42 < The359> People still watch that?
2008-04-08 18:42 < ShakespeareFan00> :)
2008-04-08 18:43 < gwern> The359: not really, it just came up in me music player
2008-04-08 18:43 < ShakespeareFan00> hi St47
2008-04-08 18:43 < gwern> I suppose adult swim still has a license to show it though
2008-04-08 18:43 < ST47> hey
2008-04-08 18:43 < gwern> (that series has aged pretty well)
2008-04-08 18:43 < Working_Cat> ShakespeareFan00: talk about quiet
2008-04-08 18:44 < ShakespeareFan00> Working_cat: ?
2008-04-08 18:44 < ShakespeareFan00> I meant in terms on people watching edits on enwiki
2008-04-08 18:44 < ShakespeareFan00> 18 months ago mass link removal would have triggered vandalism warnings...
2008-04-08 18:44 < ShakespeareFan00> I am somewhat concerned it hasn't ;)
2008-04-08 18:45 < Working_Cat> i almost named all the states of the US, quoting from memory, in a monologue, before ST47 brutally and rudely cut me off at 40
2008-04-08 18:45 < The359> ....?
2008-04-08 18:45 < ST47> You may spam all you please, the ops don't have a problem with it
2008-04-08 18:45 < Alkivar> http://youtube.com/watch?v=QfU-4Y4_akY#
2008-04-08 18:46 < Working_Cat> The359: you might want to scroll up a few pages if u were online around 2.5 hours back :D
2008-04-08 18:46 < ShakespeareFan00> Devon,Cornwall,Wiltshire,Sommerset,Dorest,Hampshire,Surrey,Sussex and Kent...
2008-04-08 18:46 < Alkivar> cool video... now to find an english translation of the lyrics
2008-04-08 18:46 < The359> I would
2008-04-08 18:46 < The359> but my interest has faded
2008-04-08 18:46 < IceKarma> Alkivar, of?
2008-04-08 18:46 < Alkivar> IceKarma: see the youtube link i just pasted
2008-04-08 18:46 < Working_Cat> IceKarma: the lyrics
2008-04-08 18:47 < Working_Cat> ST47: i wasnt spamming :(
2008-04-08 18:47 < gonnylonnykins> Howcould this one not have won?
2008-04-08 18:47 < gonnylonnykins> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=617ANIA5Rqs
2008-04-08 18:47 < ShakespeareFan00> Berkshire, Buckinghmahsre, Oxon Hertfordshire, Middlesex, Bedfordhshire, Northants. Sufforlk, Essex, G,L,C, Notts, etc...
2008-04-08 18:47 < Working_Cat> i was letting my brain spin idle while my module ran :P
2008-04-08 18:48 * gonnylonnykins would find it easier to do all the US states than the British counties
2008-04-08 18:48 < gonnylonnykins> Even though I am British
2008-04-08 18:48 < gonnylonnykins> For one thing, the states tend to be a bit mroe sensibly laid out
2008-04-08 18:48 < ShakespeareFan00> Gloucstershire, Glamorgon, Powys, Dwyfed, Gwyneed, Clywd....
2008-04-08 18:50 < ShakespeareFan00> Herford, Worcester. Brimingham, Staffs, Wawickshire, Cheshire, Shropshie and Wight...
2008-04-08 18:50 < HumbertHumbert> Did they really have those flykiller blue outdoors lamps in the 1940s?
2008-04-08 18:51 < gonnylonnykins> UV lamps?
2008-04-08 18:51 < HumbertHumbert> Dunno what they are called. They kill flies.
2008-04-08 18:51 < HumbertHumbert> And they are present in Lolita. I assume this is not an anarchochristicsiscsit.
2008-04-08 18:52 < ShakespeareFan00> Leciestershire, Norfolk, Durham (up north), Derbyshire, Liconshire, Humberside, Orks (West South and North)
2008-04-08 18:52 < gonnylonnykins> Well, when were fluorescent lamps invented?
2008-04-08 18:52 < gonnylonnykins> Could have been before then
2008-04-08 18:52 < gonnylonnykins> *couldn't
2008-04-08 18:52 < IceKarma> a looong time ago
2008-04-08 18:53 < IceKarma> clothes dryers came with germicidal UV lamps waay back around then
2008-04-08 18:53 < ShakespeareFan00> Merseyside, Manchester, Cumbria, Lancs, Lincoln, Northumberland, Newcastle, Cleveland ... and breath ... :)
2008-04-08 18:53 < IceKarma> Alkivar, http://tmblg.elimeyerhoff.com/post/28186758
2008-04-08 18:54 < ShakespeareFan00> That worked rather well :)
2008-04-08 18:54 * gonnylonnykins sees a few gaps in ShakespeareFan00's list
2008-04-08 18:55 < ShakespeareFan00> Pre 1996
2008-04-08 18:55 < ShakespeareFan00> Leaving Cambridge and counties that split right apart... ;)
2008-04-08 18:56 < gonnylonnykins> Cornwall?
2008-04-08 18:56 < gonnylonnykins> UV lamps after washing your clothes?
2008-04-08 18:56 * gonnylonnykins wonders why they'd everwant to disinfect clothes
2008-04-08 18:56 < Alkivar> MEGA LULZ (NSFW): http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1207686772777.jpg
2008-04-08 18:56 < gonnylonnykins> ...It's not like you were ever supposed ot keep them in body orifices, or anything like that?
2008-04-08 18:57 < ST47> You have precisely 10 minutes to comment on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Approvals_group#Me_too before I close it for being far too old.
2008-04-08 19:01 < Working_Cat> gonnylonnykins: sweat, blood, pus dont need orifices
2008-04-08 19:01 < ShakespeareFan00> Scotland has counties as well although often reformed ...
2008-04-08 19:01 < Working_Cat> not to mention a couple of other fluids
2008-04-08 19:01 < Working_Cat> nice nick though.
2008-04-08 19:02 < gonnylonnykins> You're saying that they didn't tend towash things in water before reusing them?
2008-04-08 19:02 < tommylommykins> :)
2008-04-08 19:03 < Working_Cat> tommylommykins: its called "added measures"
2008-04-08 19:04 < Working_Cat> we have disinfecting detergents and such
2008-04-08 19:04 < ShakespeareFan00> Shetland and Orkney, Lothian , Fifie
2008-04-08 19:05 < ShakespeareFan00> Highlands and Islands, Isles out West, Borders,central, By the Side of the Tay
2008-04-08 19:05 < ShakespeareFan00> Dumfries & Galloway, Strathclyde, and my diity is done ;)
2008-04-08 19:06 < ShakespeareFan00> Anyone care to group those lines together as humor for m:bash?
2008-04-08 19:10 < goplay_> hey
2008-04-08 19:11 < goplay> wat up
2008-04-08 19:11 < Cream> not much
2008-04-08 19:11 < goplay> coo
2008-04-08 19:11 < Cream> using Huggle atm
2008-04-08 19:11 < goplay> whats that
2008-04-08 19:12 < Cream> not telling :0
2008-04-08 19:12 < Cream> But it's related to wiki
2008-04-08 19:12 < goplay> ok
2008-04-08 19:12 < Cream> what is your wiki username?
2008-04-08 19:13 < goplay> pdgator29
2008-04-08 19:13 < goplay> brb
2008-04-08 19:13 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR KATZ!
2008-04-08 19:13 < Messedrocker> for the love of god NO
2008-04-08 19:14 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ryulong&diff=prev&oldid=204158531
2008-04-08 19:14 < Ceiling_Cat> :(
2008-04-08 19:14 < Ceiling_Cat> Ryulong agrees with you
2008-04-08 19:14 < Cream> i say
2008-04-08 19:14 < Cream> MOAR CATZ!
2008-04-08 19:14 < Messedrocker> sigh
2008-04-08 19:14 < Messedrocker> sigh
2008-04-08 19:14 < Messedrocker> miss american pie
2008-04-08 19:14 < Messedrocker> too many people use RFC
2008-04-08 19:14 < Messedrocker> and they ask help from I
2008-04-08 19:14 < Cream> Ceiling_Cat, feel free to leave cats on my talk page
2008-04-08 19:15 < ST47> Logs are broken
2008-04-08 19:15 < goplay> cream what is ur wiki name
2008-04-08 19:16 < Cream> Cream :)
2008-04-08 19:16 < goplay> lol
2008-04-08 19:16 < IceKarma> Ceiling_Cat, I deposited some cats on your page, did you see them?
2008-04-08 19:16 < Antibuddha> i hear wikipedia is banned in china
2008-04-08 19:16 < Antibuddha> i think this is one of the few things communist china has done right
2008-04-08 19:16 < Ceiling_Cat> IceKarma - I saw
2008-04-08 19:16 < Ceiling_Cat> thankee
2008-04-08 19:16 < Arwen> Antibuddha, I hear they unbanned it recently.
2008-04-08 19:16 < Antibuddha> damn
2008-04-08 19:17 < Antibuddha> say it ain't so
2008-04-08 19:17 < Cream> I know another banned website in China
2008-04-08 19:17 < Cream> http://www.cbc.ca/
2008-04-08 19:17 < Arwen> however, articles on penis-related material are banned for containing "anti-nationalistic propaganda"
2008-04-08 19:17 < Cream> fully banned
2008-04-08 19:17 < goplay> i left a talk message :)
2008-04-08 19:17 < Arwen> and for "being demeaning towards the Chinese body"
2008-04-08 19:17 < Cream> and the french counterpart
2008-04-08 19:18 < Antibuddha> Arwen: if you knew chinese you would know how stupid such a misquote you provided is in chinese
2008-04-08 19:18 < Arwen> wut?
2008-04-08 19:18 < Arwen> why would I ever want to know a backwards shitty language like Chinese?
2008-04-08 19:18 < Arwen> don't even have an alphabet for Christ's sake
2008-04-08 19:19 < Antibuddha> because at least in chinese you cant make stupid idiotic statements like in the entire english wikipedia
2008-04-08 19:19 < Antibuddha> chinese does have an alphabets
2008-04-08 19:19 < Arwen> err... wut?
2008-04-08 19:19 < IceKarma> I don't think BoPoMoFo qualifies
2008-04-08 19:19 < Antibuddha> why not
2008-04-08 19:20 < IceKarma> because (almost) every _syllable_ is written with two characters, one for the onset and one for the rhyme
2008-04-08 19:20 < Antibuddha> its much better than english
2008-04-08 19:20 < IceKarma> but it's not an alphabet.
2008-04-08 19:20 < Antibuddha> where you can say alphabets a million different ways
2008-04-08 19:21 < Demi> it's much better than cats. i'm going to see it again and again.
2008-04-08 19:21 < IceKarma> technically, neither is Hebrew, Arabic, Thai, Devanagari, ...
2008-04-08 19:21 < IceKarma> hey Demi
2008-04-08 19:21 < ggreer> Antibuddha: but can you make a typewritter for chinese?
2008-04-08 19:21 < rw> hiho :-)
2008-04-08 19:21 < Antibuddha> ggreer: you can
2008-04-08 19:21 < Arwen> <Antibuddha> its much better than english <-- err... lolwut?
2008-04-08 19:21 < Arwen> <Antibuddha> its much better than english <-- err... lolwut?
2008-04-08 19:21 < IceKarma> ggreer, no matter how you slice it, typing in Chinese seems to be a bitch
2008-04-08 19:22 < Demi> let's you and him race.
2008-04-08 19:22 < HumbertHumbert> That is one fucking interesting question.
2008-04-08 19:22 < Arwen> sorry, Pinyin -> Chinese conversion is just a hack
2008-04-08 19:22 < Arwen> and slow
2008-04-08 19:22 < HumbertHumbert> How the hell do you make a mechanical typewriter for Chinese?
2008-04-08 19:22 < HumbertHumbert> They jumped over that whole era and waited for Unicode and computers?
2008-04-08 19:22 < Antibuddha> well mechanical typewriter is a little different than what ggreer asked
2008-04-08 19:22 < Demi> not unicode, Big 5 and whatnot
2008-04-08 19:22 < Arwen> HumbertHumbert, use fluid printing plates
2008-04-08 19:23 < HumbertHumbert> :S
2008-04-08 19:23 < Arwen> i.e. able to change shape
2008-04-08 19:23 < ggreer> since when does a typewriter have that?
2008-04-08 19:23 < Arwen> ggreer, make one? :)
2008-04-08 19:23 < clickonce> ASCII is suitable for almost every need, as long as everyone stops with these childish different languages.
2008-04-08 19:23 < Arwen> yeah, seriously
2008-04-08 19:23 < Demi> if ASCII was good enough for jesus, it's good enough for me.
2008-04-08 19:23 < ShakespeareFan00> clickonce: That is not PC
2008-04-08 19:23 < Arwen> it was decided long ago that English is all the world needs
2008-04-08 19:23 < clickonce> Precisely.
2008-04-08 19:23 < Messedrocker> please to refrain from racist gestures
2008-04-08 19:23 < HumbertHumbert> Oldsk00l typesetting in the West and in the East must have been VASTLY different.
2008-04-08 19:23 < ShakespeareFan00> Demi: Jesues would have used a form of Aramaic?
2008-04-08 19:23 < Arwen> we don't need those bullshit inferior languages
2008-04-08 19:24 < Antibuddha> you guys are stupid you should stop speaking english i think its fucking with your brains
2008-04-08 19:24 < Arwen> <ShakespeareFan00> Demi: Jesues would have used a form of Aramaic? <-- or Latin?
2008-04-08 19:24 < clickonce> Messedrocker: What has possibly been recial in the last 100 sentences?
2008-04-08 19:24 < HumbertHumbert> Antibuddha: What should we speak?
2008-04-08 19:24 < Arwen> which is an ASCII text!
2008-04-08 19:24 < Demi> hehe, yes
2008-04-08 19:24 < ShakespeareFan00> Sotackawu Arwen
2008-04-08 19:24 < Messedrocker> Arwen, Aramaic
2008-04-08 19:24 < Antibuddha> HumbertHumbert: spanish
2008-04-08 19:24 < HumbertHumbert> Le donderes si senorita taco bell.
2008-04-08 19:24 < Arwen> Messedrocker, according to the "Bible", he was able to talk with the Romans as well
2008-04-08 19:24 < Arwen> so clearly he knew some kind of Latin
2008-04-08 19:24 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-04-08 19:25 < Messedrocker> probably citizens of the outgrowths of rome knew some kind of latin
2008-04-08 19:25 < Demi> one of superman's superpowers was speaking german, so jesus probably had a similar superpower
2008-04-08 19:25 < ShakespeareFan00> Arwen: meid mem su consiglinguaenin sigsumedsi si enien awau
2008-04-08 19:25 < Arwen> <ShakespeareFan00> Arwen: meid mem su consiglinguaenin sigsumedsi si enien awau <-- English please
2008-04-08 19:25 < Arwen> we do not need silly gibberish
2008-04-08 19:25 < IceKarma> Messedrocker, where do you think the modern Romance languages come from
2008-04-08 19:25 < Messedrocker> IceKarma, Latin
2008-04-08 19:25 < ShakespeareFan00> Arwen: See Sigsumeidsi on Wikia Scratchpad ;)
2008-04-08 19:25 < IceKarma> Messedrocker, ... the Vulgar Latin spoken throughout the Empire
2008-04-08 19:26 < ShakespeareFan00> Arwen: Or Greek
2008-04-08 19:26 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-04-08 19:26 < ShakespeareFan00> Which used as well as Latin
2008-04-08 19:26 < Arwen> yes, or Greek
2008-04-08 19:26 < Messedrocker> and when the dark ages occurred, they were not able to keep their Latin consistent
2008-04-08 19:26 < Arwen> Greek would be superior if not for those stupid characters with the funny dots
2008-04-08 19:26 < ggreer> it will be nice when all the small languages die off and everyone speaks various dialects of english, spanish, arabic, hindi, and chinese
2008-04-08 19:26 < ShakespeareFan00> ggreer: :O
2008-04-08 19:26 < ggreer> but mostly english
2008-04-08 19:27 < Antibuddha> english is evil
2008-04-08 19:27 < ShakespeareFan00> I don't see the Welsh being too happy about that
2008-04-08 19:27 < Antibuddha> evil= live backwards
2008-04-08 19:27 < ShakespeareFan00> ;)
2008-04-08 19:27 < Arwen> Inglish
2008-04-08 19:27 < ShakespeareFan00> Newspeak
2008-04-08 19:27 < ggreer> ShakespeareFan00: pfft, 100 years from now nobody's going to speak welsh
2008-04-08 19:27 < ShakespeareFan00> Or these days Newspeak
2008-04-08 19:27 < Antibuddha> english isnt newspeak, english is mind control
2008-04-08 19:27 < Demi> evil = vile rotated
2008-04-08 19:27 < ShakespeareFan00> ggreer: Don't be too sure... once they get independence...
2008-04-08 19:28 < HumbertHumbert> How much money does Michael Jackson have left? I haven't heard a word from him for a long time now.
2008-04-08 19:28 < tommylommykins> ...
2008-04-08 19:28 < IceKarma> Messedrocker, as a mater of fact, it's been worked out and realized that Vulgar Latin had distinctive regional characteristics as early as 100 BC
2008-04-08 19:28 < tommylommykins> Isn't it that most Welsh don't speak Welsh?
2008-04-08 19:28 < Antibuddha> HumbertHumbert: he's doing shows in vegas and making big bucks
2008-04-08 19:28 < ggreer> first everyone in a culture learns a second language, then that becomes the primary language, then all the kids never learn the original language
2008-04-08 19:28 < HumbertHumbert> Antibuddha: Really?
2008-04-08 19:28 < Not_the_NSA> Riana: no way that wasn't registered already
2008-04-08 19:28 * Cream cuddles Riana
2008-04-08 19:28 < Riana> it was :|
2008-04-08 19:28 < Cream> where is Wikipetan
2008-04-08 19:29 < Antibuddha> HumbertHumbert: i dont know i made it up but it might be true
2008-04-08 19:29 < Demi> tommylommykins - it's actually more common now, i understand, than it once was. it's not unusual. it's not like irish gaelic and so forth.
2008-04-08 19:29 < Demi> (so i hear)
2008-04-08 19:29 < IceKarma> Demi, it varies heavily by area, though
2008-04-08 19:29 < Antibuddha> there are real leprechauns in ireland
2008-04-08 19:29 < Antibuddha> beware
2008-04-08 19:29 < Cream> i eat leprechauns
2008-04-08 19:30 < HumbertHumbert> Antibuddha: Don't sit here and lie about random shit.
2008-04-08 19:30 < Antibuddha> i try to lie on topic
2008-04-08 19:30 < Messedrocker> i say i say
2008-04-08 19:30 < Messedrocker> calm the hell down
2008-04-08 19:30 < Cream> say you guys
2008-04-08 19:30 < Lucifer_Cat> meow!
2008-04-08 19:30 < Cream> should wikimania 2010 be in Canada?
2008-04-08 19:30 < Lucifer_Cat> Cream: no
2008-04-08 19:30 < The359> Only if they don't go on strike
2008-04-08 19:30 < Messedrocker> Cream, all Wikimanias should be held in New York City so I don't have to travel far for them
2008-04-08 19:30 < IceKarma> Cream, if it is, hold it on the other side of the country from here
2008-04-08 19:31 < Demi> wikimania? more like wankimania? HEY-OH!
2008-04-08 19:31 < Antibuddha> the next wikimania should be held in 1975
2008-04-08 19:31 < Nihiltres> Messedrocker: nah, in Montreal :p
2008-04-08 19:31 < clickonce> Wikimania could be in Sweden, in my opinion.
2008-04-08 19:31 < Nihiltres> Antibuddha: nice
2008-04-08 19:31 < Cream> Messedrocker, Montreal
2008-04-08 19:31 < Cream> wait
2008-04-08 19:31 < Cream> Nihiltres, are you in Montreal?
2008-04-08 19:31 < ShakespeareFan00> The next Wikimania could be in Terhan ... ;)
2008-04-08 19:32 < ShakespeareFan00> Joke
2008-04-08 19:32 < clickonce> lol
2008-04-08 19:32 < Antibuddha> or tibet
2008-04-08 19:32 < Nihiltres> no, I'm in Australia
2008-04-08 19:32 < Nihiltres> XD
2008-04-08 19:32 < Demi> Egypt, Iran, what's the difference?
2008-04-08 19:32 * Not_the_NSA votes for Wikimania Baghdad
2008-04-08 19:32 < clickonce> Then it'd terrormania, kamikazemania or bombmania.
2008-04-08 19:32 < Cream> Messedrocker, Montreal
2008-04-08 19:32 < Cream> you could go to Penn station
2008-04-08 19:32 < Cream> take the Adirondack train
2008-04-08 19:32 < Cream> :)
2008-04-08 19:32 < Lucifer_Cat> Wikimania Darfur
2008-04-08 19:32 < Messedrocker> i actually have gone to montreal before
2008-04-08 19:32 < Antibuddha> the next wikimania should be held in jimbo wales' mansion that he bought using the money generated by all the geeks writing an encyclopedia for free for him
2008-04-08 19:32 < Nihiltres> what did you think of it?
2008-04-08 19:32 < Messedrocker> and i went via penn station
2008-04-08 19:32 < ggreer> people actually take trains?
2008-04-08 19:32 < Messedrocker> on a 13 hour train