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2008-04-08 10:25 < zocky> "It was named after the Gladbach, a narrow brook, that runs subterraneously today"
2008-04-08 10:25 < zocky> The original name of the city was Gladbach, which is even today often applied to the town. To distinguish the town from another town of the same name (the present Bergisch Gladbach) it took the name München-Gladbach in 1888.
2008-04-08 10:25 < TheWeasel> yea "Glad" probably just means something like "running"
2008-04-08 10:26 < TheWeasel> Many other places have a "Kloster-" in the beginning, that means about the same
2008-04-08 10:26 < zocky> they paved over the stream that the town was named after? ts ts
2008-04-08 10:27 < TheWeasel> It must be a horrible place.
2008-04-08 10:27 < Bacta> I said WHAT WHAT in the butt
2008-04-08 10:27 < JessicaTaylor> Hello everyone
2008-04-08 10:27 < TheWeasel> Goebbels had a thick area accent (Dusseldorf/M'Gladbach/Aachen)
2008-04-08 10:27 < NotACow> NO EVERYONE HERE. PLEASE TRY AGAIN LATER.
2008-04-08 10:27 < zocky> they have a Museum im Wasserturm Rheindahlen
2008-04-08 10:28 < TheWeasel> isn't it a thrill
2008-04-08 10:28 < zocky> it should be called Mönchengladbachwasserturmrheindahlenmuseum
2008-04-08 10:28 < TheWeasel> they're the only town in Germany to have two central station
2008-04-08 10:28 < TheWeasel> s
2008-04-08 10:28 < Working_Cat> TheWeasel: nope it isnt
2008-04-08 10:28 < TheWeasel> because Rheydt was allowed to keep its
2008-04-08 10:28 < TheWeasel> when it became a part
2008-04-08 10:28 < TheWeasel> It isn't?
2008-04-08 10:29 < Bacta> you wanna do it in my butt in my butt you wanna do it in my butt in my butt letsss do it in the butt oh kay
2008-04-08 10:29 < TheWeasel> No.
2008-04-08 10:30 < zocky> "The city is unique in Europe for having two main railway stations: Mönchengladbach Hauptbahnhof (Hbf) and Rheydt Hbf, the result of the merger of the two cities, in which the deprecated name for Rheydt Hbf was never removed" claims wikipedia
2008-04-08 10:30 < TheWeasel> Damn shtraight.
2008-04-08 10:30 < zocky> "unique in europe" is probably a bit of an exaggeration, or at least a guess
2008-04-08 10:30 < Working_Cat> zocky: if its on wikipedia, it must be true!
2008-04-08 10:30 < TheWeasel> the Guinness book of records used to say so
2008-04-08 10:31 < zocky> oh, then it MUST be true
2008-04-08 10:31 < TheWeasel> but they concentrate on lifestyle nowadays so such things are no longer listed.
2008-04-08 10:31 < TheWeasel> Are you rejecting sources?
2008-04-08 10:31 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-04-08 10:31 < TheWeasel> Wikipedia sayeth that all sources are equal.
2008-04-08 10:31 < Mike5> most baked beans consumed in one minute
2008-04-08 10:31 < Fennec> some are more equal than others!
2008-04-08 10:31 < TheWeasel> That sort of thing.
2008-04-08 10:32 < zocky> TheWeasel, guiness book of records sucks now, or at least it did in 2000 when I translated it
2008-04-08 10:32 < Bacta> LETS DO IT IN THE BUTT
2008-04-08 10:32 < zocky> Bacta, as long as you do it in a private space
2008-04-08 10:32 < TheWeasel> I have that one
2008-04-08 10:32 < zocky> maybe #butt?
2008-04-08 10:32 < TheWeasel> the silver one
2008-04-08 10:32 < TheWeasel> it already sucked
2008-04-08 10:32 < TheWeasel> I also bought one from 1990, much more interesting
2008-04-08 10:32 < TheWeasel> not as lifestyle-y
2008-04-08 10:33 < zocky> TheWeasel, yeah, full of uninteresting stuff and almost no actual records that can be measured objectively
2008-04-08 10:33 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-04-08 10:33 < JessicaTaylor> argh!
2008-04-08 10:33 < TheWeasel> "the sickest politician"
2008-04-08 10:33 < JessicaTaylor> I pressed something
2008-04-08 10:33 < TheWeasel> they called Yeltsin
2008-04-08 10:33 < JessicaTaylor> Whats all this rubbish on my screen
2008-04-08 10:33 < Fennec> you pinged the channel
2008-04-08 10:34 < Fennec> now you're seeing the pongs
2008-04-08 10:34 < JessicaTaylor> wow...
2008-04-08 10:34 < JessicaTaylor> haha pongs
2008-04-08 10:34 < zocky> the machine that goes "ping" is a powerful thing
2008-04-08 10:34 < TheWeasel> Drrrrrrring
2008-04-08 10:34 < Fennec> should be one per person-in-channel or so
2008-04-08 10:34 < TheWeasel> </cash register>
2008-04-08 10:34 < JessicaTaylor> aww I have a headache now
2008-04-08 10:35 < TheWeasel> il y a une machine qui fait ping
2008-04-08 10:35 < JessicaTaylor> Haha Fennec your ping pong is broken
2008-04-08 10:35 < TheWeasel> toute la journée...
2008-04-08 10:35 < TheWeasel> Whatever
2008-04-08 10:35 < Fennec> JessicaTaylor: that's a trick. >.>
2008-04-08 10:35 < JessicaTaylor> huh?
2008-04-08 10:35 < TheWeasel> G'schicht'n aus'm Paulanergarten.
2008-04-08 10:35 < JessicaTaylor> What is this
2008-04-08 10:35 < JessicaTaylor> [00:33] [INFO] Malformed ping reply from Fennec.
2008-04-08 10:36 < TheWeasel> Genetic disorder.
2008-04-08 10:36 < TheWeasel> Better abort.
2008-04-08 10:36 < JessicaTaylor> Its broke
2008-04-08 10:36 < JessicaTaylor> Theres nothing to press
2008-04-08 10:36 < TheWeasel> </bravenewworld>
2008-04-08 10:36 < zocky> Fennec, sending "up yours" back instead of "pong"? :)
2008-04-08 10:36 < Fennec> oh, that must mean I can't hack it like X-Chat ping
2008-04-08 10:36 < Fennec> zocky: /nctcp JessicaTaylor PING 0 actually
2008-04-08 10:37 < Fennec> some people take it to mean ~1207665350 second ping
2008-04-08 10:37 < TheWeasel> UP YOURS, DELORS
2008-04-08 10:37 < Fennec> others just go 'malformed'
2008-04-08 10:37 < JessicaTaylor> I see you fixed your ping pong...
2008-04-08 10:37 < TheWeasel> You win the first set.
2008-04-08 10:38 < JessicaTaylor> I think I do
2008-04-08 10:38 < JessicaTaylor> 15 - 0
2008-04-08 10:38 < JessicaTaylor> err
2008-04-08 10:38 < zocky> 21-0 you mean?
2008-04-08 10:38 < JessicaTaylor> I don't think so?
2008-04-08 10:38 < zocky> ping pong sets are played to 21, with 2 point advantage required
2008-04-08 10:39 < JessicaTaylor> lol
2008-04-08 10:39 < JessicaTaylor> Why can't we play normal tennis
2008-04-08 10:39 < JessicaTaylor> I'm sleepy
2008-04-08 10:40 < TheWeasel> No tie-breaks. For this is the grand slam...
2008-04-08 10:40 < TheWeasel> der große Schlemm
2008-04-08 10:40 < JessicaTaylor> now...how do i pong the channel.
2008-04-08 10:41 < zocky> JessicaTaylor, ah, but in the normal tennis you can't use chinese inverted rubber sheets
2008-04-08 10:42 < JessicaTaylor> I guess...
2008-04-08 10:42 < JessicaTaylor> The table tennis paddle things were lame anyway
2008-04-08 10:42 < Haribo_> i'll ask agai... no one remembers the crasrh in gulf of finland involving two fouga magisters in 1984?
2008-04-08 10:43 < zocky> Haribo_, few people are old enough to remember 1984 in here :)
2008-04-08 10:43 < Haribo_> thaty was gulf of bothia, sorry
2008-04-08 10:43 * TheWeasel doesn't even remember biting his own foot in 1984
2008-04-08 10:43 < zocky> i do remember 1984, but not that particular incident
2008-04-08 10:44 < Haribo_> yeah, i'm a year short too
2008-04-08 10:44 < Haribo_> it just happens that the pilot who died was my mothers friends husbad
2008-04-08 10:45 < Haribo_> husband*
2008-04-08 10:45 < zocky> in 1984 I was old enough to engage in group lying about near-sexual experiences
2008-04-08 10:45 < Haribo_> over ten years old is it then?
2008-04-08 10:45 < zocky> Haribo_, yeah, just about :)
2008-04-08 10:46 < Haribo_> so whn you were born then? i'm 1985
2008-04-08 10:46 < zocky> 1973
2008-04-08 10:46 < JessicaTaylor> In 1984, I was negative 8 years old
2008-04-08 10:46 < Haribo_> year older than my older brother
2008-04-08 10:47 < Haribo_> he's a big name at nokia nowadays
2008-04-08 10:47 < Haribo_> g
2008-04-08 10:48 < zocky> hey, I'm a big name in my living room
2008-04-08 10:49 < TheWeasel> Yea, dog thinks I'm God (if I carry sausages that is)
2008-04-08 10:49 < Haribo_> right, i don't hear anyone calling my name at my room either.
2008-04-08 10:49 < zocky> TheWeasel, that's why dogs are better than cats
2008-04-08 10:49 < NotACow> http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/31139784
2008-04-08 10:49 < TheWeasel> heh.
2008-04-08 10:50 < zocky> if you carry sausages to a cat, the cat think's that the cat is god
2008-04-08 10:50 < NotACow> all cats are god
2008-04-08 10:50 < zocky> *thinks
2008-04-08 10:50 * zocky removes the apostrophe key from the keyboard
2008-04-08 10:51 < CharlotteWebb> i think cows are gods in... maybe india
2008-04-08 10:52 < TheWeasel> they're just taboo, not gods.
2008-04-08 10:52 < zocky> "Gordon Brown has rejected suggestions he avoided a human rights row with China because Britain could not afford to jeopardise economic relations."
2008-04-08 10:52 < TheWeasel> they're reborn virtuous people
2008-04-08 10:52 < zocky> wouldn't those suggestions constitute praise?
2008-04-08 10:53 < TheWeasel> That's a triple negative that I cannot presently parse.
2008-04-08 10:53 < zocky> the UK is what, 1/20 of china?
2008-04-08 10:53 < CharlotteWebb> did somebody remove it citing blp
2008-04-08 10:54 < zocky> british papers like to pretend that they still have an empire and that they could make so much difference in the world, if only their leaders were more aggressive
2008-04-08 10:55 < CharlotteWebb> you mean if royalty were something other than useless imbred figureheads
2008-04-08 10:56 < zocky> i mean if they were a powerful and an important country
2008-04-08 10:56 < Fennec> they're still /important/. Power, now, eh....
2008-04-08 10:56 < Fennec> perhaps not so much
2008-04-08 10:57 < zocky> they're already engaged in a silly counter-productive row with russians. as if russia is going to back down if UK shouts louder.
2008-04-08 10:57 < Fennec> eh, Russia is nuts.
2008-04-08 10:57 < CharlotteWebb> don't their police carry bobby pins
2008-04-08 10:57 < zocky> Fennec, i suspect it's much less nuts than our media make it out to be
2008-04-08 10:58 < CharlotteWebb> er "night-sticks"
2008-04-08 10:58 < TheWeasel> Being the only nuts actor is a sea of rational ones is a massive advantage in game theory.
2008-04-08 10:58 < Messedrocker> as opposed to guns
2008-04-08 10:58 < Messedrocker> for fyi I probably have terrible lag
2008-04-08 10:59 < zocky> russia is acting pretty rationally in the big game. currently it's "the west" that's trying a very risky strategy, and some people would call that strategy nuts
2008-04-08 10:59 < TheWeasel> well, parts maybe
2008-04-08 10:59 < Fennec> which one is that?
2008-04-08 10:59 < zocky> encircling russia and china to "contain" them
2008-04-08 11:00 < TheWeasel> for that they're doing rather good business with the two
2008-04-08 11:01 < zocky> "we" are relying on the estimate that the current discrepancy in actual military power is large enough that they will stand back and eventually accept the new interest zones.
2008-04-08 11:02 < TheWeasel> "We" 'd like to leave those categories behind, if it was our choice.
2008-04-08 11:02 < NotACow> KITTEN ATTACK IMMINENT
2008-04-08 11:02 < TheWeasel> but Fukayama seems to be wrong with his end of history hypothesis
2008-04-08 11:02 < TheWeasel> at least where Russia is concerned
2008-04-08 11:02 < zocky> TheWeasel, well, if "we" means normal people everywhere, than yes, but of course that's not who decides such stuff
2008-04-08 11:03 < TheWeasel> No, I mean that antagonism
2008-04-08 11:03 < TheWeasel> between "freedom" and "non-freedom", with both sides being essentially equally bad in their means
2008-04-08 11:03 < zocky> the antagonism is produced mostly by "the west" atm
2008-04-08 11:03 < TheWeasel> Right now, yes.
2008-04-08 11:04 < MessedRawker> yes
2008-04-08 11:04 < TheWeasel> But it's what the UN (among other things) was created for.
2008-04-08 11:04 < MessedRawker> we are highly antagonizing
2008-04-08 11:04 < zocky> i talked with a russian who now lives in US a while ago
2008-04-08 11:04 < TheWeasel> or the ECHR
2008-04-08 11:04 < MessedRawker> what with world police etc
2008-04-08 11:04 < zocky> his experience of east vs. west and communist vs. capitalist news and media matches mine
2008-04-08 11:04 * TheWeasel opposes that world policing only on a practical level
2008-04-08 11:04 < TheWeasel> it simply doesn't work
2008-04-08 11:05 < TheWeasel> the idea is good
2008-04-08 11:05 < zocky> the communist reporting on capitalist countries was much more accurate and sympathetic than vice versa
2008-04-08 11:05 < TheWeasel> heh
2008-04-08 11:05 < TheWeasel> it was ludicrous sometimes.
2008-04-08 11:05 < TheWeasel> see [[Der Schwarze Kanal]]
2008-04-08 11:06 < TheWeasel> the East didn't have a concept of NPOV, because Rousseau said that one POV is the correct one
2008-04-08 11:06 < zocky> TheWeasel, yeah, there were times when some eastern european governments engaged in information war. but that wasn't the standard state of affairs.
2008-04-08 11:06 < TheWeasel> and it's heresy to say otherwise.
2008-04-08 11:07 < TheWeasel> Can't confirm.
2008-04-08 11:07 < TheWeasel> GDR television never made the slightest effort to analyze the west fairly.
2008-04-08 11:07 < TheWeasel> neither did the west usually, but often enough they just saw what they saw
2008-04-08 11:08 < Leslie_S> TheWeasel as if american media has npov?
2008-04-08 11:08 < TheWeasel> i.e. Stasi, dilapidated towns, all that
2008-04-08 11:08 < MessedRawker> for political reasons I bet
2008-04-08 11:08 < zocky> TheWeasel, still, the communist stance was that capitalist countries were backwards in their politics, but on the same scale, and that they needed to be helped to achieve socialism. not that they were barbarians who needed to be overpowered and dismantled.
2008-04-08 11:08 < TheWeasel> Much of American television is quite nearly as bad, yes.
2008-04-08 11:09 < TheWeasel> that's because they know that the right has ways to concertedly campaign against any bit of "liberal bias"
2008-04-08 11:09 < TheWeasel> Heh, condescension or the urge to liberate, you choose
2008-04-08 11:10 < Leslie_S> atleast we have a choice of which pov
2008-04-08 11:10 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-04-08 11:10 < zocky> Leslie_S, well, not THAT much
2008-04-08 11:10 < Leslie_S> a little bit
2008-04-08 11:10 < zocky> most of the news is copied from government and commercial PR
2008-04-08 11:10 < TheWeasel> American TV rarely makes any effort to analyze things in depth
2008-04-08 11:10 < Leslie_S> we actually went through all of this in polisci 101
2008-04-08 11:10 < MessedRawker> yes
2008-04-08 11:10 < TheWeasel> they give their viewers three lines to keep in mind and that's that
2008-04-08 11:10 < MessedRawker> see also prwatch.org
2008-04-08 11:11 < zocky> you can find alternative news sources, but it's tricky and unreliable
2008-04-08 11:11 < Leslie_S> TheWeasel IRAQ / IS / RETARDED?
2008-04-08 11:11 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-04-08 11:11 < Leslie_S> zocky im talking about traditional ones.
2008-04-08 11:11 < TheWeasel> and the people who are considered left-wing on American TV are either conspiracy theorists invited for the sole purpose of derision, or tame moderates.
2008-04-08 11:11 < Leslie_S> and political news.
2008-04-08 11:11 < zocky> and there are comentators and journalists in the mainstream media that you like and who sometimes say things that are against the mainstream, but you know that if they overstep the line they will be fired.
2008-04-08 11:11 < zocky> that's not unlike how it worked in socialist countries.
2008-04-08 11:12 < TheWeasel> "controversial" is overused for a reason in America
2008-04-08 11:12 < zocky> the one I love on american news is "experts"
2008-04-08 11:12 < TheWeasel> heh, punditry
2008-04-08 11:12 < NotACow> DEATH TO NEWS
2008-04-08 11:13 < Cyrius> news to death
2008-04-08 11:13 < TheWeasel> for years, the American mainstream has considered even the most mainstream non-flagwavers "dangerously out of step with Middle America"
2008-04-08 11:13 < TheWeasel> and thus labelled as unelectable and "controversial"
2008-04-08 11:13 < TheWeasel> my personal beef with that word is well known
2008-04-08 11:14 < TheWeasel> and indeed, pundits are usually embarrassingly clueless.
2008-04-08 11:15 < TheWeasel> plus, private TV focusses too much on people.
2008-04-08 11:15 < zocky> TheWeasel, have you perchance seen the silly movie called dodgeball?
2008-04-08 11:15 < TheWeasel> (i.e. criminals, affairs, human interest)
2008-04-08 11:15 < TheWeasel> No I haven't.
2008-04-08 11:15 < zocky> the movie is mostly to silly to be funny, but there's a really good spoof on sports commentators, which applies well to news punditry too
2008-04-08 11:16 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-04-08 11:16 < zocky> there's the journalist, who's giving you tons of useless information, and there's the pundit who says either totally obvious stuff or total non sequiturs
2008-04-08 11:16 < TheWeasel> and yet
2008-04-08 11:17 < TheWeasel> I think it's sad that the two-man type of football commentary is so underused these days
2008-04-08 11:17 < TheWeasel> (or woman)
2008-04-08 11:17 < TheWeasel> far more entertaining. They did that at the '90 World Cup, then gave it up for some reason
2008-04-08 11:18 < zocky> TheWeasel, they tried it for skiing here. the commentator said "she made a good time despite some problems at the top of the course", and our skiing superstar said "yes, she had some problems at the top of the course, but she eventually made a good time"
2008-04-08 11:19 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-04-08 11:19 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-04-08 11:19 < TheWeasel> I like cycling on Eurosport
2008-04-08 11:19 < TheWeasel> but the handwringing on doping is spoiling it.
2008-04-08 11:19 < TheWeasel> they have a cool pair of commentators
2008-04-08 11:21 < zocky> pro cycling should be abolished, for at least 10 if not 20 years
2008-04-08 11:21 < zocky> it's become totally ridiculous
2008-04-08 11:21 * TheWeasel would say that doping has never been as clean as these days.
2008-04-08 11:21 < TheWeasel> but yea.
2008-04-08 11:21 < TheWeasel> and "more unblatant"
2008-04-08 11:22 < zocky> if EVERYBODY is getting doped in a sport, it's the same thing as nobody getting doped
2008-04-08 11:22 < TheWeasel> yuss.
2008-04-08 11:22 < zocky> all they achieve is a few minutes off the total time, which is totally unimportant for spectators
2008-04-08 11:22 < TheWeasel> except that some could presumably afford more quality doping
2008-04-08 11:22 < zocky> plus, some cyclists drop dead in the middle of a race
2008-04-08 11:22 * JessicaTaylor yawns
2008-04-08 11:23 < TheWeasel> I would say doping was formerly both just as common and much more dangerous than today
2008-04-08 11:23 < TheWeasel> but I realize I have a fringe position on that
2008-04-08 11:24 < zocky> TheWeasel, i would generally agree, but I think the commercial pressure and the media exposure pushes it ever further
2008-04-08 11:25 < TheWeasel> clear health hazard would of course have to be a border.
2008-04-08 11:25 < TheWeasel> and things would have to be disclosed.
2008-04-08 11:25 < TheWeasel> I never thought cycling was so significant in the scheme of pro sports
2008-04-08 11:26 < zocky> it's extremely popular in some large countries
2008-04-08 11:26 < zocky> or used to be
2008-04-08 11:26 < TheWeasel> Germany included
2008-04-08 11:26 < NotACow> DEATH TO DYING
2008-04-08 11:26 < TheWeasel> I was just annoyed at the handwringing by the public media here
2008-04-08 11:26 < TheWeasel> as if it had never existed
2008-04-08 11:26 < TheWeasel> as if the 1903 riders had not been chock-full of cocaine every day.
2008-04-08 11:27 < zocky> which was maybe safer than the stuff they take today
2008-04-08 11:27 < TheWeasel> I highly doubt that.
2008-04-08 11:27 < TheWeasel> Tom Simpson died in 1967.
2008-04-08 11:28 < TheWeasel> he used fairly crude stuff.
2008-04-08 11:29 < Haribo_> right
2008-04-08 11:29 < TheWeasel> Mont Ventoux is a pretty horrible place, to be sure.
2008-04-08 11:29 < Haribo_> i suck?
2008-04-08 11:30 < Haribo_> nu.. i just failed to scroll down
2008-04-08 11:30 < Vike91> hi
2008-04-08 11:32 < Mike5> hi
2008-04-08 11:32 < Sepultura> hallo
2008-04-08 11:34 < TheWeasel> tach
2008-04-08 11:40 < Working_Cat> /j wikipedia
2008-04-08 11:40 < Cyrius> J. Wikipedia
2008-04-08 11:42 < TheWeasel> Шит, брб.
2008-04-08 11:43 < Working_Cat> meh
2008-04-08 11:46 < TheWeasel> Дэмн ю, Википэдя
2008-04-08 11:46 * TheWeasel needs a specific piece of info
2008-04-08 11:48 < bumm13> 980
2008-04-08 11:48 < TheWeasel> Thank you.
2008-04-08 11:48 < bumm13> (darn cat :P )
2008-04-08 11:49 < TheWeasel> my question was "When did Otto II renounce his claim to Lorraine?"
2008-04-08 11:49 < TheWeasel> so the answer was correct
2008-04-08 11:49 < bumm13> heh
2008-04-08 11:49 < Cyrius> ...what?
2008-04-08 11:50 < TheWeasel> Never mind, I made my query fit the answer
2008-04-08 11:53 < bumm13> wasn't Charlemagne coronated by the then-reigning pope in 1000?
2008-04-08 11:53 < TheWeasel> 800
2008-04-08 11:53 < bumm13> that's right, it was 800
2008-04-08 11:53 < TheWeasel> by 980, the Frankish kingdom was already in shambles
2008-04-08 11:53 < bumm13> 1000 is when Leif Ericson landed in Newfoundland :)
2008-04-08 11:54 < TheWeasel> I think Otto was a duke of the Saxons
2008-04-08 11:54 < bumm13> and William the Conqueror became the first "official" king of England in 1066
2008-04-08 11:54 < bumm13> (much later)
2008-04-08 11:55 < TheWeasel> yea, the Normans.
2008-04-08 11:55 < TheWeasel> since then, the Roman words in English beat the Germanic words at every corner.
2008-04-08 11:56 < bumm13> heh
2008-04-08 11:56 < Mike5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:BarackObama-Basketball.JPEG
2008-04-08 11:56 < HumbertHumbert> Some of Michael Jackson's best songs are about him being slandered by the press etc. ("Tabloid Junkie"; "Leave me Alone"). Do you think he just made the best out of the situation, or did these allegations and myths and lies make him even more popular and successful?
2008-04-08 11:56 < bumm13> I think he's quite unpopular, regardless
2008-04-08 11:57 < bumm13> at least in the U.S. and Canada
2008-04-08 11:58 < bumm13> (because he "loves children" (boys) so much)
2008-04-08 11:58 < HumbertHumbert> :S
2008-04-08 11:58 < HumbertHumbert> Is he only a shota lover? Not loli?
2008-04-08 11:58 < bumm13> shota?
2008-04-08 11:58 < HumbertHumbert> Boys.
2008-04-08 11:58 < bumm13> yes
2008-04-08 11:58 < bumm13> (by all accounts I know of)
2008-04-08 11:58 < TheWeasel> David Hasselhoff is far too popular here to allow any star next to him :-P
2008-04-08 11:59 < bumm13> he hasn't topped the U.S. charts since 1991 or so
2008-04-08 11:59 < bumm13> haha
2008-04-08 11:59 < TheWeasel> Not really.
2008-04-08 11:59 < HumbertHumbert> Surely he did in 1995?
2008-04-08 11:59 < HumbertHumbert> With his huge album.
2008-04-08 11:59 < bumm13> I don't think so
2008-04-08 11:59 < AzaTht> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_liberty is marked as IUCN Category III (Natural Monument)
2008-04-08 11:59 < AzaTht> correct?
2008-04-08 11:59 < Working_Cat> natural?
2008-04-08 11:59 < TheWeasel> HIStory was an embarrassing self-messiah-fication
2008-04-08 12:00 < bumm13> oh, he actually did (for one week)
2008-04-08 12:00 < AzaTht> Working_Cat: I don't think it's correct, but it's so marked
2008-04-08 12:00 < bumm13> TheWeasel: indeed
2008-04-08 12:00 < HumbertHumbert> Grrrr @ TheWeasel...
2008-04-08 12:00 < bumm13> I remember some kid singing a song referring to Michael Jackson as being "a fag" clear back in 1991 :P
2008-04-08 12:00 < HumbertHumbert> Grrrr @ bumm13...
2008-04-08 12:00 < bumm13> grrrr?
2008-04-08 12:01 < HumbertHumbert> Why bash Jacko?
2008-04-08 12:01 < bumm13> because people don't like pedophilia?
2008-04-08 12:01 < TheWeasel_> Never mind
2008-04-08 12:02 < TheWeasel_> I was going to look up something but I forgot.
2008-04-08 12:02 < AzaTht> Working_Cat: should I mark it as hoax?
2008-04-08 12:02 < AzaTht> ツ
2008-04-08 12:02 < bumm13> I think even before the pedophile issue became the focus with Jackson in the U.S., he was being seen more and more as a kind of effeminate freak
2008-04-08 12:02 < AzaTht> anyone from NY here?
2008-04-08 12:03 < zocky> Some historians claim that in his youth Suleiman had an admiration for Alexander the Great.[8][9] He was influenced by Alexander's vision of building a world empire that would encompass the east and the west, and this created a drive for his subsequent military campaigns in Asia and in Africa, as well as in Europe. He also had a very nice hat.
2008-04-08 12:03 < bumm13> lol
2008-04-08 12:04 < AzaTht> anyone?
2008-04-08 12:04 < zocky> AzaTht, US is a force of nature
2008-04-08 12:04 < AzaTht> hehe
2008-04-08 12:05 < bumm13> kind of like a boorish sasquatch
2008-04-08 12:06 < AzaTht> tagged it as OR
2008-04-08 12:06 < TheWeasel_> Yesterday I saw a CN tag and a footnote next to each other.
2008-04-08 12:06 < TheWeasel_> that's the extent of the CN absurdity on Wikipedia now.
2008-04-08 12:07 < AzaTht> CN?
2008-04-08 12:07 < TheWeasel_> Citation needed
2008-04-08 12:07 < zocky> "Sultan of Sultans, The Shadow of God on Earth (Caliph), Caesar of all the lands of Rome"
2008-04-08 12:07 < TheWeasel_> Does your Papa Know
2008-04-08 12:07 < AzaTht> aha
2008-04-08 12:08 < TheWeasel_> yep.
2008-04-08 12:08 < Working_Cat> TheWeasel: PapaJohns knows
2008-04-08 12:08 < TheWeasel_> what about PapaBenny
2008-04-08 12:08 < Working_Cat> i only have one dad
2008-04-08 12:08 < TheWeasel_> oh, nm.
2008-04-08 12:09 < bumm13> bleh, my cat's feet are wet :-P
2008-04-08 12:11 < TheWeasel_> anyway, it was something like "...the earth is not flat[1][citation needed]."
2008-04-08 12:11 < AzaTht> TheWeasel: hehe
2008-04-08 12:12 < TheWeasel_> apart from that, the fallacy that unsourced statements are wrong is quite common on Wikipedia
2008-04-08 12:12 < TheWeasel_> wrong and most especially malicious.
2008-04-08 12:17 < Working_Cat> bumm13: happiness is a wet pussy
2008-04-08 12:18 < Working_Cat> bumm13: why dont you give it a long relaxing bath.
2008-04-08 12:21 * bumm13 flatulates on Working_Cat
2008-04-08 12:21 < bumm13> bubbles!
2008-04-08 12:21 < Working_Cat> eeks
2008-04-08 12:21 < bumm13> :D
2008-04-08 12:22 < nsh> what's the time in Maryland?
2008-04-08 12:24 < Working_Cat> nsh: Prayertime!
2008-04-08 12:25 < TheWeasel_> Hammer time
2008-04-08 12:26 < nsh> cool
2008-04-08 12:26 < Working_Cat> 12:26
2008-04-08 12:26 < Working_Cat> nsh: is in cst heh
2008-04-08 12:30 < Working_Cat> http://www.basicinstructions.net/2008/03/how-to-deal-with-somebody-who-has-bad.html
2008-04-08 12:38 < nsh> Working_Cat, thanks
2008-04-08 12:38 < nsh> decided i won't be ordering any papers from nasa sti though
2008-04-08 12:38 < nsh> as they cost $79 each international
2008-04-08 12:38 < nsh> probably easier to track down the author and hassle him for a copy
2008-04-08 12:46 < Leslie_S> wtf
2008-04-08 12:46 < Leslie_S> im registering for an account on a forum
2008-04-08 12:46 < Leslie_S> and in the terms of service, the last line is "
2008-04-08 12:46 < Leslie_S> You also agree to give Murd0c 10% of your weekly wages in the form of a cashier's check every Friday.
2008-04-08 12:46 < Leslie_S> lols
2008-04-08 12:48 < Working_Cat> wow... you READ those?
2008-04-08 12:49 < scorchsaber_> Leslie_S: Which is fortunate, most people I know are paid monthly.
2008-04-08 12:51 < TheWeasel_> impossibilia nemo tenetur
2008-04-08 12:53 < Working_Cat> http://www.basicinstructions.net/2008/03/how-to-win-game-of-rock-paper-scissors.html
2008-04-08 12:54 * TheWeasel_ chuckles at chess engine that diagnoses a Reti opening where no Nf3 has ever been played
2008-04-08 12:54 < nsh> "Inflation in Zimbabwe recently reached 160,000%. Get in on the ground floor now by purchasing a $50,000,000 bill (currently selling for 20,000x its value). Dare to become a millionaire!"
2008-04-08 12:54 < nsh> jesus
2008-04-08 12:55 < nsh> how is that country still in one piece?
2008-04-08 12:55 < TheWeasel_> It isn't.
2008-04-08 12:55 < TheWeasel_> (or only in a very charitable sense)
2008-04-08 12:56 < TheWeasel_> people are trying their best to get the hell out
2008-04-08 12:57 < TheWeasel_> the economic policies of Bobby Mugabe have been among the most fundamentally stupid in recent memory
2008-04-08 12:58 < Working_Cat> fo shizzle mah wizzle
2008-04-08 13:01 < Working_Cat> wizzly
2008-04-08 13:05 < JessicaTaylor> Its getting late
2008-04-08 13:05 < JessicaTaylor> night night
2008-04-08 13:10 < Working_Cat> TheWeasel_: why the _
2008-04-08 13:10 < Mike5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeological_Evidence_of_Gender_in_Central_Otago_Mining_Communities
2008-04-08 13:11 < Wafulz> is there a template that says "the sources in this article/section may not be reliable" or something similar?
2008-04-08 13:13 < TheWeasel_> Got disconnected, was re-admitted with an altered nick.
2008-04-08 13:19 < GDonato> Wafulz: have a hunt through [[WP:TEMP]]
2008-04-08 13:21 < vixey> hi
2008-04-08 13:21 < vixey> can someone tell me how to find a really good page that went missing please?
2008-04-08 13:21 < vixey> it's that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_samples_used_by_DJ_Sharpnel
2008-04-08 13:22 < Cyrius> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_samples_used_by_DJ_Sharpnel
2008-04-08 13:22 < tawker> vixey: need a copy of the content?
2008-04-08 13:22 < vixey> thatks very much
2008-04-08 13:22 < vixey> yeah http://electronicmusic.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_samples_used_by_DJ_Sharpnel
2008-04-08 13:22 < vixey> that's wonderful
2008-04-08 13:24 < tawker> vixey: http://pastebin.ca/977136
2008-04-08 13:24 < tawker> thats a copy paste of wikicode
2008-04-08 13:25 < vixey> thanks
2008-04-08 13:28 < Leslie_S> sigh, why does life have to suck so much?
2008-04-08 13:28 < vixey> :[
2008-04-08 13:29 < The_sunder_king> =[
2008-04-08 13:29 < Thehelpfulone2> :)
2008-04-08 13:31 < Cyrius> in large part, because humans are animals
2008-04-08 13:32 < Cyrius> physics is responsible for a portion of the suckitude
2008-04-08 13:32 < Leslie_S> im mostly talking about stupid people though
2008-04-08 13:33 < Leslie_S> i moved out, my mom still tries to be the gender police
2008-04-08 13:33 < Leslie_S> management treats me like dirt at work (im getting ready to call the district manager)
2008-04-08 13:34 < tawker> Leslie_S: what industry?
2008-04-08 13:34 < Leslie_S> tawker walmart.
2008-04-08 13:35 < Leslie_S> like
2008-04-08 13:35 < Leslie_S> i had one cart that took me a couple hours to do (shouldve been 20 minutes). i had to help like 10 customers and i helped someone push a heavy pallet across the store.
2008-04-08 13:35 < Leslie_S> and the stuff on the cart was stuff that takes time to do
2008-04-08 13:35 < Leslie_S> so i get bitched at
2008-04-08 13:35 < Leslie_S> now this one manager, who i liked until last week, keeps bitching at me about my speed constantly.
2008-04-08 13:36 < tawker> it's walmart
2008-04-08 13:36 < tawker> do I need say more...
2008-04-08 13:36 < Leslie_S> and like, i have to deal with "return carts" at night. i'm told to do them for the last two hours i am there.
2008-04-08 13:36 < Leslie_S> Then this same manager makes me do other stuff
2008-04-08 13:36 < Leslie_S> and then yells at me for not having the carts done
2008-04-08 13:36 < Leslie_S> like its my fualt
2008-04-08 13:36 < cimon> Leslie_S, life is, don't ask
2008-04-08 13:36 < cimon> don't tell
2008-04-08 13:37 < Leslie_S> anyway
2008-04-08 13:37 < Leslie_S> i think im gonna call the district manager
2008-04-08 13:37 < Leslie_S> think hed actually do anything?
2008-04-08 13:37 < cimon> iam way beoynd being gay muselrf..
2008-04-08 13:37 < Leslie_S> cimon im not gay.
2008-04-08 13:38 < Leslie_S> and this has nothing to do with my sex change, except the thing with my mom
2008-04-08 13:38 < cimon> if they had a word for heterosexual pervert, tht would fit me...
2008-04-08 13:39 < Leslie_S> wtf do my complaints with management have to do with this?
2008-04-08 13:40 < cimon> I'll stick it into anything that resembles a "wound in a tree" as long as it isn't moving too fast...
2008-04-08 13:40 < Leslie_S> ...
2008-04-08 13:41 < cimon> but let me chase it down first...
2008-04-08 13:41 < Leslie_S> ...........
2008-04-08 13:42 < cimon> I don't care... be unfair...
2008-04-08 13:42 < TheWeasel_> "...wirst du des Todes sterben." "...you will die of death."
2008-04-08 13:43 < TheWeasel_> Death is a fairly frequent source of dying
2008-04-08 13:44 < Cyrius> deaaaath
2008-04-08 14:06 < MORPHEU_sp> Alguem brasileiro?
2008-04-08 14:07 < bumm13> ¿hable (?) portuguesa?
2008-04-08 14:07 < MORPHEU_sp> \o/
2008-04-08 14:07 < MORPHEU_sp> aceito
2008-04-08 14:07 < MORPHEU_sp> me chama
2008-04-08 14:08 < bumm13> *habla
2008-04-08 14:08 < Mike5> "Someone hacked this article and wrote spam under the picture appearing at the top."
2008-04-08 14:08 < Mike5> damn hackers always messing with the articles
2008-04-08 14:08 < MORPHEU_sp> kd os hackers de merda
2008-04-08 14:09 * bumm13 no habla la portuguesa muito bem :-(
2008-04-08 14:09 < MORPHEU_sp> que pena madrecita
2008-04-08 14:19 < Working_Cat> meow?
2008-04-08 14:20 < bumm13> MORPHEU: trato o canaleta de IRC #pt.wikipedia :x
2008-04-08 14:25 < AzaTht> White_Cat: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Barnstar.png&curid=32087&diff=10885592&oldid=10317459
2008-04-08 14:25 < AzaTht> what did you think???
2008-04-08 14:30 < Working_Cat> English muthatucker, do you speak it?
2008-04-08 14:31 < bumm13> :/
2008-04-08 14:34 < Working_Cat> just wondering :
2008-04-08 14:34 < Working_Cat> :P
2008-04-08 14:36 * bumm13 slaps Working_Cat around a bit with a large tuna
2008-04-08 14:36 * Working_Cat slaps bumm13 around a bit wuth Samuel L Jackson
2008-04-08 14:37 < bumm13> ah, tough guy!
2008-04-08 14:48 < Working_Cat> quantas
2008-04-08 14:52 < TheWeasel_> What do English literary character mean by saying "sblood"?
2008-04-08 14:52 < TheWeasel_> +s
2008-04-08 14:53 < TheWeasel_> something like "for fuck's sake"?
2008-04-08 14:54 < TheWeasel_> Seems so.
2008-04-08 14:54 < Krimpet> TheWeasel_: more or less - basically an exclamation like "damn!," IIRC
2008-04-08 14:54 < TheWeasel_> yea
2008-04-08 14:55 < Krimpet> it's like "zounds"
2008-04-08 14:56 < Krimpet> they mean "god's blood" and "god's wounds" respectively
2008-04-08 14:57 < TheWeasel_> oh right
2008-04-08 14:57 < TheWeasel_> interesting to what length people went to a) commit blasphemy and b) get away with it
2008-04-08 14:57 < fale> !tinyurl
2008-04-08 14:58 < The359> heh
2008-04-08 14:58 < The359> quote regarding the replica business of creating Ferrari 250 GTOs
2008-04-08 14:58 < The359> "Of the 36 which have been built, all 3000+ of them are still running."
2008-04-08 14:58 < TheWeasel_> :-D
2008-04-08 15:00 * bumm13 �
2008-04-08 15:00 < Working_Cat> Krimpet: stop pulling things out of random orifices
2008-04-08 15:00 * The359 �
2008-04-08 15:01 * Krimpet keeps her orifices relatively empty...
2008-04-08 15:01 < Working_Cat> nevermind
2008-04-08 15:01 < bumm13> orifica!
2008-04-08 15:02 < FastLizard4> ...
2008-04-08 15:03 < Working_Cat> zounds, its FastLizard4
2008-04-08 15:03 < Working_Cat> i used to do the "empty msg" thingy on mirc... havent really tried that on cZ
2008-04-08 15:04 * The359 �
2008-04-08 15:04 < freesbie> is mirc still alive?
2008-04-08 15:04 < The359> yes
2008-04-08 15:04 < The359> why wouldn't it be
2008-04-08 15:04 < bumm13> alive in what sense?
2008-04-08 15:05 < FastLizard4> Working_Cat: You can't do it on CZ
2008-04-08 15:05 * Working_Cat figured
2008-04-08 15:06 < bumm13> Chatzilla has no /me command?
2008-04-08 15:06 < Working_Cat> has
2008-04-08 15:06 < bumm13> it does then?
2008-04-08 15:06 < FastLizard4> bumm13: It does, but you can't send empty messages
2008-04-08 15:06 * FastLizard4 see?
2008-04-08 15:06 < Working_Cat> but it demands you have a non-whitespace character
2008-04-08 15:06 < bumm13> it just won't let you then?
2008-04-08 15:06 < bumm13> ok
2008-04-08 15:06 < bumm13> that's kind of lame
2008-04-08 15:06 < FastLizard4> [12:05:45] [ERROR] Missing required parameter message.
2008-04-08 15:07 < Working_Cat> [ERROR] Missing required parameter action.
2008-04-08 15:07 < bumm13> :P
2008-04-08 15:07 * bumm13 isn't a huge fan of Cz anyway
2008-04-08 15:07 < Working_Cat> damn you Slimy_Reptile :P
2008-04-08 15:07 < bumm13> does it still lack /ignore ?
2008-04-08 15:07 < FastLizard4> :(
2008-04-08 15:07 < FastLizard4> bumm13: Of course not
2008-04-08 15:07 < bumm13> ick
2008-04-08 15:08 < bumm13> that's a cardinal sin
2008-04-08 15:08 < FastLizard4> I ignored like 4 people yesterday
2008-04-08 15:08 * Working_Cat slaps bumm13 around a bit with Ezekiel 3:14
2008-04-08 15:08 < bumm13> um, ok
2008-04-08 15:09 < FastLizard4> ...
2008-04-08 15:09 < bumm13> does that passage talk about orifices?
2008-04-08 15:09 < FastLizard4> xD
2008-04-08 15:09 < TheWeasel_> God commands Ezechiel to go, and he does (3:14)
2008-04-08 15:09 < nsh> waitwait
2008-04-08 15:10 < bumm13> "The Spirit lifted me up and took me away. I went in bitterness and turmoil, but the Lord’s hold on me was strong." (NLT)
2008-04-08 15:10 < TheWeasel_> oh yea
2008-04-08 15:10 < nsh> think i is herd this one
2008-04-08 15:10 * bumm13 has no idea how that is relevant here
2008-04-08 15:10 < TheWeasel_> It's good Christian practice to find sense where there is none.
2008-04-08 15:10 < Working_Cat> lol
2008-04-08 15:11 * FastLizard4 slaps Working_Cat with an IPv6 address, namely, fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5
2008-04-08 15:11 * TheWeasel_ picks a random Bible verse
2008-04-08 15:12 < TheWeasel_> ""Kiriath-baal (the same is Kiriath-jearim), and Rabbah; two cities with their villages." -"
2008-04-08 15:12 < TheWeasel_> Lame
2008-04-08 15:12 * Working_Cat hurls an ATM frame header back at FastLizard4
2008-04-08 15:13 < FastLizard4> Working_Cat: That's my IP address :P
2008-04-08 15:13 < FastLizard4> Err, IPv6 address
2008-04-08 15:13 < freesbie> what happened on atm? people used to think atm was the future
2008-04-08 15:14 < Working_Cat> freesbie: it went the way of the lizard :D
2008-04-08 15:14 < FastLizard4> Time to boot up the firefoxen
2008-04-08 15:14 * TheWeasel_ sends an internet to his staff
2008-04-08 15:14 < freesbie> is atm still used in backbone?
2008-04-08 15:15 < FastLizard4> Could someone ping6 my IPv6 address and see if they get a response?
2008-04-08 15:15 < FastLizard4> It's fe80::211:11ff:fe59:86ab%5
2008-04-08 15:29 < Working_Cat> how to ping6
2008-04-08 15:30 * Thehelpfulone2 has no idea too :P
2008-04-08 15:31 * Thehelpfulone2 waves to scorchsaber
2008-04-08 15:33 < Working_Cat> Unable to contact IPv6 driver, error code 2.
2008-04-08 15:46 < compwhizii> data base lock :P
2008-04-08 15:46 < The359> nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
2008-04-08 15:47 < Krimpet> OH YEAAAAAAAAAH!
2008-04-08 15:47 < Krimpet> </kool-aid>
2008-04-08 15:47 < kingturtle> gmorning
2008-04-08 15:47 < compwhizii> unlocked
2008-04-08 15:47 < Krimpet> 'afternoon
2008-04-08 15:47 < compwhizii> Krimpet, ...okay then :P
2008-04-08 15:47 < LawrenceWCohen> why does DB lock always happen when you least expect it?
2008-04-08 15:47 < compwhizii> its brion, he's playing wiht you
2008-04-08 15:48 < compwhizii> with*
2008-04-08 15:48 < LawrenceWCohen> you tell that Brion that I'm gonna sink his battleship
2008-04-08 15:48 < compwhizii> But for real you know who Brion is right? :)
2008-04-08 15:49 < LawrenceWCohen> ah well, she's back. I got excited for changing a GA to an FA and was thinking--horrible timing!
2008-04-08 15:49 < LawrenceWCohen> yeah, he keeps us operational
2008-04-08 15:49 < Working_Cat> heh, the joys of programming with large databases
2008-04-08 15:49 < compwhizii> yep, IT manager
2008-04-08 15:49 < LawrenceWCohen> well you tell him I will spill Pepsi on his motherboard then
2008-04-08 15:50 < MBisanz> good, if LawrenceWCohen didn't know who he was, i'd have to de-nom you per [[Wikipedia:Do NOT bite the developers]]
2008-04-08 15:50 < Working_Cat> kool-aid has more caffeine than dew or less?
2008-04-08 15:50 < Working_Cat> i've never had kool-aid iirc
2008-04-08 15:50 < LawrenceWCohen> heh
2008-04-08 15:50 < LawrenceWCohen> kool-aid is vile.
2008-04-08 15:50 < LawrenceWCohen> the tang is good, though.
2008-04-08 15:50 < Working_Cat> LawrenceWCohen: how
2008-04-08 15:50 < Working_Cat> ok
2008-04-08 15:51 < Working_Cat> but worth giving up dew for?
2008-04-08 15:51 < bumm13> I didn't know Kool-Aid had any caffeine in it
2008-04-08 15:51 < Working_Cat> heh
2008-04-08 15:51 * bumm13 wonders
2008-04-08 15:51 < LawrenceWCohen> working: its all perspective. do you wish to lose all your teeth in 5 years or 7?
2008-04-08 15:51 < Working_Cat> i was wondering too
2008-04-08 15:51 < bumm13> five! \o/
2008-04-08 15:51 < Working_Cat> i've heard of people going bonkers with too much kool aid :P
2008-04-08 15:51 < Working_Cat> LawrenceWCohen: ceramic teeth ftw
2008-04-08 15:52 < bumm13> brushing them doesn't hurt, either ;)
2008-04-08 15:52 < Working_Cat> actually, you can just put them in some cleaning device
2008-04-08 15:53 < Working_Cat> and set it to run 5 mins before your alarm goes off
2008-04-08 15:53 * TheWeasel_ wants to create something odd
2008-04-08 15:53 < Messedrocker> TheWeasel_, try the number 47
2008-04-08 15:53 < Working_Cat> i have an idea: 5
2008-04-08 15:53 < LawrenceWCohen> setting the coffee machine timer for 5:50am if you wake at 6am is the best invention ever.
2008-04-08 15:53 < Working_Cat> damn
2008-04-08 15:54 < LawrenceWCohen> on that note
2008-04-08 15:54 < TheWeasel_> maybe "List of subnational entities whose midpoint does not lie on theor territory"
2008-04-08 15:54 < TheWeasel_> o=i
2008-04-08 15:55 < Working_Cat> "List if subnatiinal entities whise midpiint does nit lie in their territiry"?
2008-04-08 15:55 < TheWeasel_> yea
2008-04-08 15:55 < TheWeasel_> For instance the central point of Croatia lies in Serbia.
2008-04-08 15:55 < TheWeasel_> (not subnational, granted)