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2008-04-08 04:45 < Tefad> ok peoples, valete.
2008-04-08 04:45 < yao_ziyuan> The359: you still don't get it? it's the kids of the govt officials that live in the US
2008-04-08 04:45 < Haribo_> might have been around 1984-1986 too :/
2008-04-08 04:45 < Mike_H> cimon: And I didn't even know Finland had an air force
2008-04-08 04:45 < Mike_H> we learn something new every day
2008-04-08 04:46 < HumbertHumbert> Finland barely has a police.
2008-04-08 04:46 < The359> ok, so what?
2008-04-08 04:46 < Haribo_> hey, i'm postioned over there at wartime
2008-04-08 04:46 < HumbertHumbert> Why would they have an air force with just 5 million people?
2008-04-08 04:46 < The359> Wouldn't they be living in luxury regardless of where they are, yao_ziyuan?
2008-04-08 04:46 < cimon> Mike_H: I personally saw one of yours...
2008-04-08 04:46 < The359> it's a defense force, HumbertHumbert
2008-04-08 04:46 < The359> and Finland has always had an impressive air force
2008-04-08 04:46 < Haribo_> true that we have only about hundred and fifty Hornets
2008-04-08 04:46 < The359> on the world scale
2008-04-08 04:47 < freesbie_> yep, even people have no money to eat
2008-04-08 04:47 < yao_ziyuan> The359: yes, but living in the west can enjoy higher materialism
2008-04-08 04:47 < cimon> Mike_H, the fun thing we did in the treay of Versailles was say nix to submerines
2008-04-08 04:47 < The359> ok, so what yao_ziyuan?
2008-04-08 04:47 < freesbie_> yep, even people have no money to buy a decent pant
2008-04-08 04:47 < The359> People are allowed to live where they choose
2008-04-08 04:47 < Haribo_> but in the WWII the brewsters kicked ass
2008-04-08 04:47 < yao_ziyuan> is any of you member of a wife-swapping club?
2008-04-08 04:47 < The359> ...
2008-04-08 04:47 < HumbertHumbert> o_O
2008-04-08 04:48 < The359> I don't know what Wife-Swapping Club you're thinking of
2008-04-08 04:48 < HumbertHumbert> Out of the blue...
2008-04-08 04:48 < yao_ziyuan> these kids go to wife-swapping clubs in the night and protest BBC/CNN in the day
2008-04-08 04:48 < Haribo_> yao... that'd be if i had a wife to swap
2008-04-08 04:48 < freesbie_> chinese more love nuclear bombs than pants
2008-04-08 04:48 < cimon> Mike_H: but the german CV2 is a direct descendant of Finnish developement efforts...
2008-04-08 04:48 < The359> uh...no
2008-04-08 04:48 < yao_ziyuan> The359: it's like file swapping
2008-04-08 04:48 < AdamBishop> kids these days.
2008-04-08 04:48 < The359> I think you're mistaken, yao_ziyuan
2008-04-08 04:48 < The359> or misinformed
2008-04-08 04:49 < cimon> AdamBishop, don't go, I have a question...
2008-04-08 04:49 < AdamBishop> ok
2008-04-08 04:49 < TheLetterE> gah
2008-04-08 04:49 < cimon> blame me I cant' remember the question thoug...
2008-04-08 04:49 < yao_ziyuan> anyway, chinese in the US don't protest BBC/CNN in this tibet event
2008-04-08 04:49 < yao_ziyuan> because they want green cards
2008-04-08 04:50 < yao_ziyuan> lol
2008-04-08 04:50 < The359> I think you're a little confused, yao_ziyuan
2008-04-08 04:50 < freesbie_> i have a small question
2008-04-08 04:50 < yao_ziyuan> no
2008-04-08 04:50 < cimon> Something that a scholar of the ages whould, knowm but I am coming up blandk remembering what ist was.
2008-04-08 04:50 < yao_ziyuan> i'm very clear on this
2008-04-08 04:50 < AdamBishop> I want to protest Tibet for being a feudal theocracy
2008-04-08 04:50 < The359> No, you are quite confused
2008-04-08 04:50 < freesbie_> how many chinese is working in new york times?
2008-04-08 04:50 < The359> A great deal of Chinese in the US are protesting
2008-04-08 04:51 < The359> and I doubt there are that many rich Chinese people in the US who are here illegally
2008-04-08 04:51 < cimon> I have to just fail... can't remember...
2008-04-08 04:51 < yao_ziyuan> i'm talking about anther kind of chinese in america now
2008-04-08 04:51 < yao_ziyuan> these are students
2008-04-08 04:51 < yao_ziyuan> born in ordinary families
2008-04-08 04:52 < The359> students don't need green cards
2008-04-08 04:52 < yao_ziyuan> holding H1B
2008-04-08 04:52 < The359> they're on student visas
2008-04-08 04:52 < The359> and they are protesting
2008-04-08 04:52 < yao_ziyuan> yes
2008-04-08 04:52 < The359> quite heavily
2008-04-08 04:52 < freesbie_> somebody told me that these chinese could speak grass english in oxford tone
2008-04-08 04:53 < yao_ziyuan> i mean chinese students who already graduated from a US grad school
2008-04-08 04:53 < cimon> AdamBishop, nevermind, i'll remember it eventually,
2008-04-08 04:53 < The359> if they graduated
2008-04-08 04:53 < The359> they're no longer students
2008-04-08 04:53 < freesbie_> yao_ziyuan, so waht? did they come back to china?
2008-04-08 04:53 < yao_ziyuan> historically students
2008-04-08 04:53 < The359> and if their visas are up, then yes they aren't likely to protest
2008-04-08 04:53 < cimon> I have a sieve of a mind
2008-04-08 04:54 < The359> So what's your point?
2008-04-08 04:54 < The359> That's sort of a duh statement
2008-04-08 04:54 < yao_ziyuan> they find a job with a US company and hold H1B visa
2008-04-08 04:54 < yao_ziyuan> and they're waiting for green card
2008-04-08 04:54 < freesbie_> yao_ziyuan, or they will start a revolution?
2008-04-08 04:54 < yao_ziyuan> in this period they don't want to protest
2008-04-08 04:55 < The359> do you have a point, yao_ziyuan?
2008-04-08 04:55 < freesbie_> yao_ziyuan, so? it's worth to be forgive?
2008-04-08 04:55 < Dycedarg> join #wikipedia-en
2008-04-08 04:55 < yao_ziyuan> my point is chinese students/employees in america who haven't got the green card are not likely to protest
2008-04-08 04:55 < The359> ok, we know that?
2008-04-08 04:55 < The359> like I said, that's a bit obvious
2008-04-08 04:55 < freesbie_> yao_ziyuan, this is quirk
2008-04-08 04:56 < The359> although I doubt many legitimate employees in America lack green cards
2008-04-08 04:56 < The359> or at least legal status
2008-04-08 04:56 < The359> and would avoid protesting
2008-04-08 04:56 < yao_ziyuan> china is very fragile now
2008-04-08 04:56 < yao_ziyuan> it's like Goliath
2008-04-08 04:57 < freesbie_> do you mean chinese students don't care about their own country?
2008-04-08 04:57 < The359> ok, you're like leaping from statement to statement
2008-04-08 04:57 < freesbie_> or... just because they are cheap?
2008-04-08 04:57 < The359> with no rhyme or reason
2008-04-08 04:57 < cimon> wow this is like an Irc-chat!
2008-04-08 04:57 < yao_ziyuan> government officials' kids care about china more
2008-04-08 04:57 < yao_ziyuan> because that's their financial support
2008-04-08 04:58 < The359> I doubt that
2008-04-08 04:58 < yao_ziyuan> if their parents no longer can milk the chinese people
2008-04-08 04:58 < The359> You base this theory on what?
2008-04-08 04:58 < yao_ziyuan> their luxury in america will be over
2008-04-08 04:58 < freesbie_> this is a hopeless communist+fascist country
2008-04-08 04:58 < yao_ziyuan> s/can/cant
2008-04-08 04:58 < freesbie_> what can you expect for?
2008-04-08 04:58 < cimon> In soviet russia theory bases you...
2008-04-08 04:58 < freesbie_> this is chinese native
2008-04-08 04:59 < freesbie_> never be changed
2008-04-08 04:59 < freesbie_> har har har
2008-04-08 04:59 < yao_ziyuan> these filthy rich lods
2008-04-08 04:59 < yao_ziyuan> *kids
2008-04-08 04:59 < freesbie_> rich my butt
2008-04-08 04:59 * cimon is geek
2008-04-08 04:59 < yao_ziyuan> they smell that china is in danger
2008-04-08 04:59 < yao_ziyuan> their regime is in danger
2008-04-08 04:59 * The359 shakes head
2008-04-08 05:00 < The359> yao_ziyuan
2008-04-08 05:00 < The359> what makes you think there aren't rich kids of American families living overseas?
2008-04-08 05:00 < cimon> lol
2008-04-08 05:00 < freesbie_> i use a #3000 laptop, they use a $300 laptop, rich my ass
2008-04-08 05:00 < cimon> wb Owner
2008-04-08 05:00 < yao_ziyuan> you can't compare these two cases
2008-04-08 05:00 < The359> uh, yes I can?
2008-04-08 05:00 < yao_ziyuan> these rich chinese kids
2008-04-08 05:00 < The359> They're rich because of their parents businesses
2008-04-08 05:00 < freesbie_> rich my ass
2008-04-08 05:00 < The359> or their government position
2008-04-08 05:00 < yao_ziyuan> they spend big money without a blinking
2008-04-08 05:00 < yao_ziyuan> a blink
2008-04-08 05:01 < The359> ...
2008-04-08 05:01 < The359> Americans don't spend big money without blinking?
2008-04-08 05:01 < The359> Let me introduce you to Paris Hilton
2008-04-08 05:01 < Haribo_> damn. i take there's not article about the gulf of bothnia 1984 crash where Markku Keski-Jaskari got killed.
2008-04-08 05:01 < yao_ziyuan> they're rich because their parents milk the chinese people
2008-04-08 05:01 < Luna-San> Is this conversation going anywhere?
2008-04-08 05:01 < The359> milk how?
2008-04-08 05:01 < The359> Because they have workers?
2008-04-08 05:01 < The359> Again, how do you think people in America get rich?
2008-04-08 05:01 < yao_ziyuan> america may have rich kids too but they're not as hated as our ones
2008-04-08 05:01 < The359> Besides the lottery...
2008-04-08 05:02 < freesbie_> their wealth comes from chinese women
2008-04-08 05:02 < freesbie_> hehehe
2008-04-08 05:02 < freesbie_> the fact detected!
2008-04-08 05:02 < Halabund> I found an article that seems to be more misleading/simply incorrect than useful, but I'm not familiar with the topic, and I don't want to make a bigger mess. What does one do in such a case?
2008-04-08 05:02 < yao_ziyuan> remember Wang Jingwei's story i told here last time?
2008-04-08 05:02 < The359> are you just trying to insult everything or what, freesbie_?
2008-04-08 05:03 < freesbie_> insult?
2008-04-08 05:03 < yao_ziyuan> China is Goliath now
2008-04-08 05:03 < freesbie_> i don't think so
2008-04-08 05:03 < The359> you seem to simply be insulting everything Chinese, freesbie_
2008-04-08 05:03 < freesbie_> how did i insult chinese?
2008-04-08 05:04 < yao_ziyuan> ever heard the recent news that a Chinese named Hu Ji@ is jailed?
2008-04-08 05:04 < freesbie_> so, should i be muted as reporters?
2008-04-08 05:04 < yao_ziyuan> for "attempt to overthrow the national regime"?
2008-04-08 05:05 < Aqwis> seriously
2008-04-08 05:05 * The359 thinks this is a conversation with a brick wall and moves on
2008-04-08 05:05 < yao_ziyuan> BBC has been reporting Hu Ji@'s case heavily
2008-04-08 05:05 < freesbie_> i go with him, just my soul
2008-04-08 05:06 < freesbie_> is Hu Ji a spy?
2008-04-08 05:06 < yao_ziyuan> you're too trolling
2008-04-08 05:06 < freesbie_> woot!
2008-04-08 05:07 < yao_ziyuan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hu_Ji@_%28activist%29
2008-04-08 05:07 < yao_ziyuan> replace @ with a
2008-04-08 05:08 < freesbie_> sorry, i can't remember so many chinese names, cause they look like the same
2008-04-08 05:24 < Aqwis2> seriously
2008-04-08 05:24 < Aqwis2> 1/5 americans, germans and UKians believe that the sun revolves around the earth?
2008-04-08 05:24 < Aqwis2> this is not the goddamn 14th century
2008-04-08 05:24 < Aqwis2> at least *evolution* is a rather "modern" theory
2008-04-08 05:27 < pengo> The Origin is public domain now and they can download it off the net
2008-04-08 05:27 < The359> where'd you get that stat, Aqwis2?
2008-04-08 05:30 < Aqwis2> http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/bloom07/bloom07_index.html
2008-04-08 05:30 < Aqwis2> " Also, there are cultural factors that need to be explained. Americans are not more resistant to science in general. For instance, 1 in 5 American adults believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth, which is somewhat shocking—but the same proportion holds for Germany and Great Britain."
2008-04-08 05:33 < The359> seems high to me
2008-04-08 05:35 < Mark_Ryan> 5:32:48 pm >> * Riana (n=oh-noes@wikipedia/Riana) Quit ("CZ = douche") -- chatzilla is a shower?
2008-04-08 05:35 < Riana> Mark_Ryan: douche = douchebag = inept
2008-04-08 05:36 < Riana> get with the lingo, broseph
2008-04-08 05:36 < Messedrocker> "douchebag" is also analogous with "tool", no?
2008-04-08 05:36 < Mark_Ryan> yes
2008-04-08 05:36 < nakee> anyone knows why when I do print previewfrom firefox on http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%AA%D7%9E%D7%98%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%94 everything is backwards?
2008-04-08 05:36 < Messedrocker> i've never really heard "douchebag" used when saying someone is inept
2008-04-08 05:36 < Werdna> I have.
2008-04-08 05:36 < Riana> Messedrocker: you are obviously not inept, then
2008-04-08 05:36 < Riana> kudos!
2008-04-08 05:37 < Messedrocker> :>
2008-04-08 05:37 < Mark_Ryan> nakee: backwards, as in, backwards because hebrew is a right-to-left language?
2008-04-08 05:37 < Lucifer_Cat> go sleep
2008-04-08 05:39 < nakee> Mark_Ryan, the hebrew part is backwards (LTR instead of RTL) and the english sentences just look bad (letters one on top of the other)
2008-04-08 05:41 < webkid> get a new computer, man.
2008-04-08 05:43 < Mark_Ryan> nakee, probably Firefox being stupid. Internet Explorer 7 handles it okay.
2008-04-08 05:43 < Messedrocker> "Internet Explorer 7 handles it okay."
2008-04-08 05:43 < Messedrocker> I never thought I'd ever see that.
2008-04-08 05:44 * Messedrocker breaks out the champagne
2008-04-08 05:44 * privatemusings demands a glass....
2008-04-08 05:44 * Messedrocker pours a whole bunch of glasses
2008-04-08 05:44 < privatemusings> or should that be flute?
2008-04-08 05:44 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-04-08 05:44 * privatemusings drinks them
2008-04-08 05:45 * Messedrocker pours a pyramid of flutes, rather
2008-04-08 05:45 * privatemusings drinks them too....
2008-04-08 05:45 < privatemusings> woo hoo!
2008-04-08 05:46 < Mark_Ryan> nakee, actually, it might be a problem with the style sheet. I know Wikipedia forces a different style sheet on browsers when you print, and the Hebrew one might not be updated properly to represent that language's needs
2008-04-08 05:47 < Mark_Ryan> the fact that it works in Internet Explorer might not be a good thing :P as IE is sometimes more tolerant of bad coding than other browsers
2008-04-08 05:47 < Messedrocker> Mark_Ryan, do you read Hebrew?
2008-04-08 05:47 < Mark_Ryan> no
2008-04-08 05:48 < Messedrocker> how do you know that the text is backwards then
2008-04-08 05:48 < nakee> Mark_Ryan, is there somewhere to bug report it?
2008-04-08 05:49 < Mark_Ryan> Messedrocker: ... the text isn't backwards. for nakee it's aligning left-to-right, when hebrew is a right-to-left language. I do know about Hebrew, I had to stuff around working out how to get hebrew and arabic to display properly on the wikimedia error page, alongside english text
2008-04-08 05:49 < Messedrocker> ok
2008-04-08 05:49 < nakee> Mark_Ryan, it's not aligned ltr the alignment is ok, just the letters are backwards
2008-04-08 05:50 < Mark_Ryan> what, actually backwards? lol
2008-04-08 05:50 < Mark_Ryan> now that's a new error
2008-04-08 05:50 < privatemusings> so if hebrew is written backwards
2008-04-08 05:50 < privatemusings> and the letters are the wrong way round...
2008-04-08 05:50 < privatemusings> does that mean it's written the right way round.
2008-04-08 05:50 < privatemusings> which is wrong.
2008-04-08 05:50 < nakee> maybe it's encoding issue
2008-04-08 05:51 < The359> http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_04/AmyFaceBIGPICS_468x683.jpg Train Wreck!
2008-04-08 05:52 < Messedrocker> caption: "i'M oN hErOiN"
2008-04-08 05:53 < Mark_Ryan> no, it's still alright in IE7
2008-04-08 05:53 < Mark_Ryan> http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94
2008-04-08 05:53 < Mark_Ryan> you just need to compare the title characters to the Wikipedia logo
2008-04-08 05:54 < Messedrocker> LoL .NET Framework
2008-04-08 05:54 < Mark_Ryan> nakee: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%95%D7%99%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%A4%D7%93%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%A9%D7%92%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA#English
2008-04-08 05:54 < Mark_Ryan> that's what they call their "Embassy"
2008-04-08 05:54 < Mark_Ryan> if you have trouble communicating in Hebrew, then you could find someone there to speak to
2008-04-08 05:55 < Mark_Ryan> otherwise you might wish to report the bug at bugzilla.wikimedia.org - but that's a bit of a pain :)
2008-04-08 05:59 < nakee> Mark_Ryan, thanks, Hebrew is my mother language btw
2008-04-08 05:59 < Mark_Ryan> nakee, in that case, you're probably better off asking what whatever equivalent to a "Village Pump" the Hebrew Wikipedia has :)
2008-04-08 06:00 < Mark_Ryan> I mean, *at
2008-04-08 06:08 * Inke yawns
2008-04-08 06:09 < Inke> Oh, silly boys. Two of my male sea monkeys are fighting. >:/
2008-04-08 06:10 < Mark_Ryan> you know they're just prawns/shrimp right?
2008-04-08 06:10 < Mark_Ryan> i.e. dinner?
2008-04-08 06:10 < Inke> You know you don't know anything about fairy shrimp, right?
2008-04-08 06:11 < Inke> i.e. they're not even shrimp?
2008-04-08 06:11 < Mark_Ryan> I'm not the one staring at dinner in a tank.
2008-04-08 06:12 < mavhc> you mean they don't evolve to worship me as a god?
2008-04-08 06:12 < Inke> I happen to be currently raising three species of artemia. The sea monkey hybrid is the most interesting, though, since they're bred to be bigger and live longer, and they're typically hardier.
2008-04-08 06:17 < Inke> Damnit, the bigger male looks to be killing the smaller one. Stop that! >:[
2008-04-08 06:18 < Luna-San> Maybe if you set +m they'll calm down
2008-04-08 06:18 < Inke> XP
2008-04-08 06:23 < Warpath> O_O
2008-04-08 06:25 < Messedrocker> force = mass * acceleration
2008-04-08 06:25 < Messedrocker> and weight = force / area
2008-04-08 06:25 < Messedrocker> therefore weight = (mass * acceleration) / area
2008-04-08 06:25 < Messedrocker> is there anything wrong with that
2008-04-08 06:26 < Mark_Ryan> anyone feel like writing a fair use rationale for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Home_and_Away_Logo.jpg ?
2008-04-08 06:27 < Messedrocker> saint shit!
2008-04-08 06:27 < Messedrocker> thursday will be 67 degrees!
2008-04-08 06:27 < Messedrocker> that's 19 degrees Celsius for 96% of the world
2008-04-08 06:28 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: Ugh, fix that horror of an article first
2008-04-08 06:28 < Mike_H> really, think of the priorities
2008-04-08 06:28 < Mark_Ryan> Mike_H: I went through all of the articles about Home and Away characters. And there were, like, 3 references. out of about 50 articles
2008-04-08 06:29 < Mike_H> There was a section in the main article
2008-04-08 06:29 < Mike_H> a few days ago
2008-04-08 06:29 < Mike_H> when I read it
2008-04-08 06:29 < Mark_Ryan> and they were being used by fans as dumping grounds for things like "KIRSTY IS COMING BACK IN JUNE, BUT KANE ISN'T"
2008-04-08 06:29 < Mike_H> called "merhcandise"
2008-04-08 06:29 < Messedrocker> sounds like mIRC-andise
2008-04-08 06:29 < Mike_H> sounds like whoever wrote the Home and Away article is 13 and can't write for shit
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mark_Ryan> bingo.
2008-04-08 06:30 < Messedrocker> bingo.
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mark_Ryan> in other news, Melbourne's top-rating newsreader came out on the weekend as gay
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mark_Ryan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:9newsMelbourne.jpg - this guy
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: You go get him!
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mike_H> EW
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mike_H> he's old
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mark_Ryan> lol yes
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mike_H> but he might have money
2008-04-08 06:30 < Mike_H> you go get him!
2008-04-08 06:31 < Messedrocker> doesn't look the least gay
2008-04-08 06:31 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: Old people never look gay
2008-04-08 06:31 < Mike_H> except for Quentin Crisp
2008-04-08 06:31 < Mark_Ryan> Messedrocker: are you saying he doesn't have Gayface?
2008-04-08 06:31 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-04-08 06:31 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: THE GAY SMILE
2008-04-08 06:31 < Mike_H> I hate that
2008-04-08 06:32 < Mark_Ryan> there's this new game show on here called "The Power of Ten", which is a bit confusing as it's on channel Nine, not Ten
2008-04-08 06:32 < Mike_H> I hate that show
2008-04-08 06:32 < Mark_Ryan> and yeah, one of their questions last night was "what percentage of Australians think people are born gay"
2008-04-08 06:32 < Mike_H> Drew Carey hosts it here
2008-04-08 06:33 < Mark_Ryan> and the contestant dialled in like 15%, and the result was like 70%
2008-04-08 06:33 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0KSDFgxbKRk
2008-04-08 06:33 < Mike_H> this is a clip of two Big Brother contestants
2008-04-08 06:33 < Mike_H> on Power of 10
2008-04-08 06:33 < Mark_Ryan> Mike_H: the first two episodes of our version have bombed. awful ratings. i expect it to be axed within a week
2008-04-08 06:34 < Mike_H> Oh, Power of 10 is a moderate success here
2008-04-08 06:34 < Mark_Ryan> probably Drew Carey
2008-04-08 06:34 < Mark_Ryan> it's a bit like family feud
2008-04-08 06:35 < Mike_H> rofl
2008-04-08 06:35 < Mike_H> What percentage of Americans have danced the Macarena?
2008-04-08 06:35 < Mike_H> 48%
2008-04-08 06:36 < Mike_H> What percentage of Americans are currently working two or more jobs?
2008-04-08 06:36 < Mike_H> 16%
2008-04-08 06:36 < Mike_H> these questions aren't even interesting
2008-04-08 06:37 < Mark_Ryan> I love the old American family fued clips
2008-04-08 06:37 < Mark_Ryan> with the complete bimbos
2008-04-08 06:43 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: Oh, this is a good question
2008-04-08 06:43 < Mike_H> What percentage of Americans think it's important to stay in Iraq and finish the job it started?
2008-04-08 06:43 < Mike_H> She froze it between 16 and 36%.
2008-04-08 06:44 < Lubaf> "If the gods had meant for us to vote, they would have given us candidates."
2008-04-08 06:44 < Cyrius> where's that from?
2008-04-08 06:44 < Mike_H> She lost the money.
2008-04-08 06:44 < Mike_H> The answer was 11%.
2008-04-08 06:48 < Lubaf> Cyrius: I dunno.
2008-04-08 06:48 < Lycurgus> hey FTR, I put the actual fact of the oldest american municipality as a footnote to the wpese in [[New Amsterdam]] rather than say expunge the fabrication.
2008-04-08 06:49 < Lubaf> Cyrius: Apparently, Jim Hightower.
2008-04-08 06:49 < Lubaf> http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Meant-Theyd-Given-Candidates/dp/0060932090
2008-04-08 06:49 < TheLetterE> ping cimon
2008-04-08 06:53 < Lycurgus> ([[nl:Nieuw-Amsterdam (Nieuw-Nederland)]] is a FA)
2008-04-08 06:53 < Lycurgus> ni hao yao
2008-04-08 06:53 < yao_ziyuan> i need you baby~
2008-04-08 06:53 < yao_ziyuan> to warm a lonely night
2008-04-08 06:53 < yao_ziyuan> do westerners like singing in irc?
2008-04-08 06:54 < yao_ziyuan> Lycurgus: what's your native country?
2008-04-08 06:54 < Lycurgus> mei guo
2008-04-08 06:54 < yao_ziyuan> ,..
2008-04-08 06:54 < yao_ziyuan> mei guo ah mei guo
2008-04-08 06:58 < yao_ziyuan> have you got tired of being a mei guo ren ...
2008-04-08 07:03 < Lycurgus> well yeah, but who knows what can happen? Have you gotten tired of being a zhong guo ren?
2008-04-08 07:03 < Lycurgus> i'm struggling just to be a free nan ren period.
2008-04-08 07:04 < yao_ziyuan> nan ren...
2008-04-08 07:04 < Lycurgus> maybe we have that in common.
2008-04-08 07:04 < yao_ziyuan> why did you emphasize nan?
2008-04-08 07:04 < Lycurgus> well because that's what I am.
2008-04-08 07:05 < yao_ziyuan> if you don't intentionally emphasize your gender,
2008-04-08 07:05 < yao_ziyuan> you should just say 'ren'.
2008-04-08 07:05 < Lycurgus> yes I know.
2008-04-08 07:06 < Lycurgus> i translate that word as "aduult", "human", "person", "citizen" and "grown-up".
2008-04-08 07:07 < yao_ziyuan> too many connotations to be conveyed in a single word
2008-04-08 07:07 < yao_ziyuan> o
2008-04-08 07:07 < yao_ziyuan> you mean that
2008-04-08 07:07 < yao_ziyuan> it is simply 'person'
2008-04-08 07:08 < yao_ziyuan> 'person' is the one with fewest connotations
2008-04-08 07:08 < Lycurgus> Acknowledged.
2008-04-08 07:08 < Lycurgus> (notice where it came in the series I listed)
2008-04-08 07:09 < yao_ziyuan> so what?
2008-04-08 07:10 < yao_ziyuan> it won't be hard to be a free man
2008-04-08 07:10 < yao_ziyuan> the world will all be free soon
2008-04-08 07:10 < Owner> zzzz
2008-04-08 07:12 < yao_ziyuan> but you can never be free enough
2008-04-08 07:12 < yao_ziyuan> even man can be pregnant now
2008-04-08 07:12 < Lycurgus> well it wasn't a real nan ren
2008-04-08 07:13 < yao_ziyuan> living in an epicenter of changes is least tiring
2008-04-08 07:13 < Lycurgus> famously
2008-04-08 07:14 < Lycurgus> in a stupendously badassed kina way
2008-04-08 07:14 < Lycurgus> bbl
2008-04-08 07:27 < gwern> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/04/07/funny-pictures-kill-dem-all/ <-- are you sure Ceiling_Cat? some of them are nice to me
2008-04-08 07:29 < Luna-San> heh, that's a good one
2008-04-08 07:38 < Luna-San> Oh, boy. Witty t-shirt sites are getting even lazier. Just saw one add where they don't even have a motto written on the shirt -- they just get a model wearing a plain shirt, then overlay the text later.
2008-04-08 07:51 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: lol
2008-04-08 07:52 < Lucifer_Cat> Luna-San: where theres a working business model, theres people who bring it down
2008-04-08 07:53 < Luna-San> Also, *ad
2008-04-08 07:53 < Luna-San> But indeedy
2008-04-08 07:54 < HumbertHumbert> Who the hell buys those t-shirts and coffee mugs?
2008-04-08 07:55 < HumbertHumbert> Why is there a word ("Pederasty") for men who like little boys but not one for men who like little girls?
2008-04-08 07:57 < Luna-San> There might be some derivative of "lolita." Not an area I feel any particular need to know about.
2008-04-08 07:57 < Lycurgus> prolly the "as" part. The unisex version is "pedophile".
2008-04-08 07:58 < HumbertHumbert> Discrimination.
2008-04-08 07:58 < HumbertHumbert> Nymphomaniacs?
2008-04-08 07:59 < Lycurgus> and iirc there's a unisex sense of "pedarasty", though it's a common 19th century term for homosexual when it was supposed to be largely restricted to the custom sanction in european classical culture.
2008-04-08 08:00 < Lucifer_Cat> HumbertHumbert: those are gals who cant stop fucking
2008-04-08 08:00 < Lucifer_Cat> 'not necessarily underage ones, just young ones... till 25 i guess?
2008-04-08 08:00 < HumbertHumbert> I meant "nymphet".
2008-04-08 08:01 < HumbertHumbert> Humbert Humbert uses some term along those lines.
2008-04-08 08:02 < Lycurgus> maybe because liking young girls is considered being a normal hetereosexual male, it for that reason doesn't get or hasn't yet gotten a name
2008-04-08 08:03 < HumbertHumbert> It is sure as hell not considered normal. :S
2008-04-08 08:03 < Lycurgus> unless they're below puberty in which case it's common pedophilia
2008-04-08 08:04 < HumbertHumbert> People go fucking nuts if they as much as suspect that you might be a pedo.
2008-04-08 08:04 < Werdna> Lycurgus: ephebophilia
2008-04-08 08:04 < HumbertHumbert> I love how murderers and other scum in prison actually think pedos are worse than them. Such lovely hypocricy.
2008-04-08 08:06 < Lycurgus> that sounds like something only used in scowerly journals
2008-04-08 08:06 < Lycurgus> on criminal clinical psychology
2008-04-08 08:07 < HumbertHumbert> :S
2008-04-08 08:07 < Lycurgus> *scowlerly
2008-04-08 08:09 < Luna-San> Also, after watching the Sweeney Todd movie, I had a strange feeling that if I dumped people down a chute after brutally murdering them, I'd do it feet-first, because dumping them on their heads just seems wrong, somehow. Odd thought.
2008-04-08 08:10 < HumbertHumbert> http://youtube.com/watch?v=OmEExBSJHyo <-- Scary.
2008-04-08 08:10 < HumbertHumbert> This must be fake, no?
2008-04-08 08:14 < HumbertHumbert> ... right?
2008-04-08 08:14 < nazgjunk> HumbertHumbert: seen it before, judging by the rest of what's on that show it should be fake
2008-04-08 08:14 < nazgjunk> i hope.
2008-04-08 08:14 < HumbertHumbert> You'd think they'd run out of actors eventually...
2008-04-08 08:16 < Lucifer_Cat> seen that one. utterly stupid
2008-04-08 08:17 < HumbertHumbert> Her mum doesn't look too bright either.
2008-04-08 08:17 < HumbertHumbert> Total wreck.
2008-04-08 08:18 < Lucifer_Cat> her 15 year old daughters been fucking around. thats a legit wreckage.
2008-04-08 08:18 < HumbertHumbert> Maybe one shouldn't have kids unless they know what they're getting into.
2008-04-08 08:18 < HumbertHumbert> I have never met a single person who I thought should have kids...
2008-04-08 08:18 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-04-08 08:19 < Lucifer_Cat> how old are you
2008-04-08 08:19 < HumbertHumbert> Not important.
2008-04-08 08:20 < Lucifer_Cat> most people dont think i should have a baby either
2008-04-08 08:20 < Lucifer_Cat> but thats mostly cus i'd be the spawn of the devil
2008-04-08 08:20 < HumbertHumbert> Lucifer_Cat: But ye gonna have it neways, no matter what yer stuped mama says?
2008-04-08 08:20 < Lucifer_Cat> meh, my mamas among the ones who want me to have one
2008-04-08 08:21 < HumbertHumbert> :O
2008-04-08 09:04 * TheWeasel is once more rather fascinated by the Old Testament
2008-04-08 09:05 * TheWeasel 's microwaves runs for an oddly long time
2008-04-08 09:05 < TheWeasel> brb
2008-04-08 09:05 < TheWeasel> -s
2008-04-08 09:05 < jtizzle1854> If I have a dial up connection, is it possible to hook up the phone line to a router, and then with my antenna from my laptop, pick up the signal that the router is transmitting?
2008-04-08 09:06 < Cream> prolly to ask that in ##routing
2008-04-08 09:06 < Cream> or a proper channel
2008-04-08 09:06 < Cream> i dunno
2008-04-08 09:06 < Cream> lol
2008-04-08 09:06 < Cyrius> only if the router has a wifi base station in it
2008-04-08 09:06 < Cream> heya Cyrius
2008-04-08 09:07 < jtizzle1854> ok
2008-04-08 09:08 < NotACow> MOO
2008-04-08 09:08 < NotACow> jtizzle1854: i haven't seen too many wireless routers for dialup on the market
2008-04-08 09:08 < Cream> Hey NotACow
2008-04-08 09:08 < jtizzle1854> ok, but you've seen some right?
2008-04-08 09:11 < jtizzle1854> you have seen some routers for dialup Notacow?
2008-04-08 09:13 < NotACow> jtizzle1854: you can get a PSTN modem card for most cisco devices.
2008-04-08 09:13 < jtizzle1854> ok i don't have a cisco device
2008-04-08 09:16 < NotACow> whee
2008-04-08 09:16 < NotACow> i have server 2008 DVDs now :)
2008-04-08 09:23 * TheWeasel hath eaten altogether too much lasagna
2008-04-08 09:31 < Lubaf> You can't always eat flaming death / You can't always eat flaming death / But if you really try / You might find / You eat lukewarm death anyway...
2008-04-08 09:35 < HumbertHumbert> How could Charles Darwin be on HMS Beagle for five long years?
2008-04-08 09:36 < Bacta> Hi I've written extensively on buttplugs
2008-04-08 09:36 < Cyrius> one day at a time
2008-04-08 09:36 < Bacta> can I gain some sort of renumeration by putting up Google Ads on my good edits?
2008-04-08 09:36 < Cyrius> no
2008-04-08 09:37 < TheWeasel> ah... the use of "you" in place of "one"
2008-04-08 09:37 < TheWeasel> One of my favorite peeves
2008-04-08 09:37 < HumbertHumbert> Cyrius: But 5 years on a fucking ship.
2008-04-08 09:37 < HumbertHumbert> Wooden at that.
2008-04-08 09:38 < Cyrius> he did step off it from time to time
2008-04-08 09:38 < HumbertHumbert> They must've gone around the world several laps?
2008-04-08 09:39 < TheWeasel> Jimmy Cook was on his ship for a similar timespan
2008-04-08 09:39 < Cyrius> they only went around once
2008-04-08 09:39 < Cyrius> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Voyage_of_the_Beagle.jpg
2008-04-08 09:39 < TheWeasel> They did botanic and other work where they anchored.
2008-04-08 09:40 < HumbertHumbert> Hmm...
2008-04-08 09:41 < HumbertHumbert> So he got food and stuff for free?
2008-04-08 09:41 < HumbertHumbert> I always thought it would be nice to join some expedition.
2008-04-08 09:41 < HumbertHumbert> And like hang around with my laptop and talk to random people.
2008-04-08 09:41 < Cyrius> it was a survey expedition
2008-04-08 09:41 < Cyrius> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_voyage_of_HMS_Beagle
2008-04-08 09:42 < TheWeasel> did the Empire have a claim to Galapagos?
2008-04-08 09:42 < Cyrius> "Darwin spent most of this time exploring on land; three years and three months on land, 18 months at sea."
2008-04-08 09:42 < HumbertHumbert> Oh...
2008-04-08 09:42 < Cyrius> 18 months wasn't much for a sailing ship on a round-the-world trip
2008-04-08 09:42 < HumbertHumbert> "Young Einstein" must be the least scientificly accurate film ever.
2008-04-08 09:43 < HumbertHumbert> He meets Charles Darwin in the end...
2008-04-08 09:43 < HumbertHumbert> "Young Frankenstein" also made no sense to me.
2008-04-08 09:43 < TheWeasel> Einstein was three when Darwin died.
2008-04-08 09:44 < TheWeasel> (1882)
2008-04-08 09:44 < Cyrius> "The film is an intentionally inaccurate portrayal of Albert Einstein as a young farmer in Tasmania who discovers rock music, adds bubbles to beer through splitting Tasmanian beer atoms, and meets Marie Curie."
2008-04-08 09:44 < Addshore> The database has been automatically locked while the slave database servers catch up to the master
2008-04-08 09:44 < Addshore> :(
2008-04-08 09:44 < TheWeasel> discipline is paramound.
2008-04-08 09:44 < TheWeasel> d=t
2008-04-08 09:44 < Cyrius> poor yahoo serious
2008-04-08 09:44 < HumbertHumbert> "Tasmanian beer atoms"...
2008-04-08 09:45 < HumbertHumbert> What happens if somebody starts editing a Wikipedia article, and somebody else does too, and then both submit their changes?
2008-04-08 09:45 < Cyrius> young frankenstein was a parody of the old frankenstein movie
2008-04-08 09:45 < HumbertHumbert> Not at the same time, but like 2 minutes apart.
2008-04-08 09:45 < TheWeasel> not that Einstein ever had much to do with atoms
2008-04-08 09:45 < Cyrius> edit conflict
2008-04-08 09:45 < HumbertHumbert> Cyrius: It really wasn't that funny...
2008-04-08 09:45 < TheWeasel> One gets a conflict message
2008-04-08 09:45 < Cyrius> young frankenstein was hilarious
2008-04-08 09:46 < HumbertHumbert> Lame jokes such as the old hag being scary to horses somehow.
2008-04-08 09:46 < HumbertHumbert> Making them gnägg whenever they hear her name.
2008-04-08 09:47 < HumbertHumbert> It had funny parts, but it really didn't feel like a comedy.
2008-04-08 09:47 < HumbertHumbert> I sort of don't like movies that are meant to be comedies.
2008-04-08 09:47 < HumbertHumbert> Because you can't take them seriously and always get disappointed.
2008-04-08 09:48 < TheWeasel> there are comedies that work on many levels, such as Life of Brian.
2008-04-08 09:48 < HumbertHumbert> Does the director/producer put the "tags" for the movies?
2008-04-08 09:48 < HumbertHumbert> Or do other people who review the movie decide what kind of movie it is?
2008-04-08 09:48 < Cyrius> life of brian works on many levels?
2008-04-08 09:48 < TheWeasel> It does
2008-04-08 09:48 < TheWeasel> it's a brilliant satire on left-wing (and hence Arab) factionalism in the 1970s
2008-04-08 09:49 < TheWeasel> and its walking on the spot
2008-04-08 09:49 < Cyrius> the whole thing? I mean the bit where they're trying to sort out which faction they belong to was obvious
2008-04-08 09:49 < TheWeasel> well, the gender issue
2008-04-08 09:50 < TheWeasel> the discussion on what to do, where they only come up with a solemn declaration
2008-04-08 09:50 < TheWeasel> that is all extremely well observed
2008-04-08 09:51 < TheWeasel> especially the (very Marxist-Palestinian) sentence "There's only one thing we hate more than the Romans... the damn People's Front of Judea"
2008-04-08 09:51 < TheWeasel> (ie. PFLP, DFLP, PFLP-GC, PLO...)
2008-04-08 09:56 < Working_Cat> hey whackypedia!
2008-04-08 09:57 < Working_Cat> meow?
2008-04-08 09:57 < TheWeasel> "wacky"
2008-04-08 09:57 < TheWeasel> :-P
2008-04-08 09:58 < Working_Cat> no. it actually feels like a whack over the head to be on here :P
2008-04-08 09:58 < TheWeasel> oh.
2008-04-08 09:58 < Working_Cat> ze wizzle iz also ze poll kat
2008-04-08 09:59 < TheWeasel> sur iz
2008-04-08 09:59 < Chetblong> O_O
2008-04-08 09:59 < TheWeasel> Polka-t.
2008-04-08 09:59 < Working_Cat> zomg iz ze wizzleosoruz
2008-04-08 09:59 < Working_Cat> oh and here comes popeye
2008-04-08 10:00 < TheWeasel> Fo shizzle mah wizzle
2008-04-08 10:00 < Chetblong> O_O
2008-04-08 10:00 < Working_Cat> haha thats what im gonna say from now
2008-04-08 10:00 < Chetblong> R-dizzle fo shizzle
2008-04-08 10:00 < Working_Cat> fo shizzle mag whizzle
2008-04-08 10:00 < Chetblong> O_O
2008-04-08 10:00 < TheWeasel> "That night, he slept in the open and was blinded by bird droppings that fell in his eyes. This put a strain on his marriage..."
2008-04-08 10:00 < TheWeasel> Unfortunate.
2008-04-08 10:00 < Working_Cat> lolwut?
2008-04-08 10:01 < TheWeasel> some apocryphal book of the bible
2008-04-08 10:02 < Working_Cat> nice
2008-04-08 10:02 < Bacta> Wikipedia rap http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
2008-04-08 10:02 < Working_Cat> Bacta-ria
2008-04-08 10:03 < Chetblong> Bacta: I'm not falling for that ;)
2008-04-08 10:03 < Working_Cat> "Vista is an OS in much the same way that KIA is a car"
2008-04-08 10:04 < TheWeasel> What's to say about KIA?
2008-04-08 10:04 < TheWeasel> never heard much of a complaint
2008-04-08 10:04 < Working_Cat> TheWeasel: its a lot like vista.
2008-04-08 10:04 < Working_Cat> you could say its the vista of the cars
2008-04-08 10:04 < TheWeasel> Bloated?
2008-04-08 10:05 < Working_Cat> i dunno. never used either.
2008-04-08 10:05 < TheWeasel> as I said, KIA is not particularly good or bad in my mind
2008-04-08 10:05 < Bacta> Christ Astronauts don't get much hotter than this http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/upload/news/070724_tp.jpg
2008-04-08 10:05 < TheWeasel> Astronaut, Christ doesn't get much h... never mind
2008-04-08 10:06 < Chetblong> TheWeasel: Vista is not "bloated"
2008-04-08 10:06 * Chetblong has Vista
2008-04-08 10:06 < Chetblong> It's a coll OS
2008-04-08 10:06 < Chetblong> *cool
2008-04-08 10:06 < TheWeasel> It was a random guess
2008-04-08 10:07 < Fennec> it's a bloaty coolness!
2008-04-08 10:07 < TheWeasel> being pro-something-by-Microsoft is borderline trolling on IRC usually.
2008-04-08 10:07 * TheWeasel has Vista on his laptop and hasn't got too many complaints
2008-04-08 10:07 < Bacta> Vista is a bloated piece of shit
2008-04-08 10:08 < TheWeasel> like KIA?
2008-04-08 10:08 * Working_Cat is programming in VB6 and will be moving on to .Net and C# soon :D
2008-04-08 10:08 < Fennec> well, I can see how you'd be glad to get away from that
2008-04-08 10:08 < Working_Cat> i can almost imagine hordes of linux/java/antiMS fans trying to execute me.
2008-04-08 10:09 < Working_Cat> Fennec: VB6, yeah for sure.
2008-04-08 10:09 < Working_Cat> .Net and C#... well I did not have a lot of complaints the last time i used them
2008-04-08 10:10 * zocky has W2K on his machine and usually has no complaints because he almost never boots into it
2008-04-08 10:10 < Bacta> I feel sick whenever I code in .NET
2008-04-08 10:10 < Bacta> makes me feel like a tool
2008-04-08 10:11 < zocky> and W2K is definitely good enough for playing HOMM2
2008-04-08 10:11 < zocky> which is about all I ever do in it
2008-04-08 10:11 < Working_Cat> Bacta: what else do you use other than .Net
2008-04-08 10:11 < Bacta> Java, C, PHP
2008-04-08 10:12 < Chetblong> "Wikipedia search is disabled for performance reasons. You can search via Google or Yahoo! in the meantime." ?
2008-04-08 10:12 < TheWeasel> to me there has only been one undeniably awful OS by Microsoft, and that is ME.
2008-04-08 10:12 < Chetblong> what's happened to Wikipedia Search?
2008-04-08 10:12 < TheWeasel> Wikipedia Search sucks anyway
2008-04-08 10:12 < Working_Cat> Chetblong: disabled. for performance reasons.
2008-04-08 10:12 < TheWeasel> I never use anything but Google
2008-04-08 10:12 * Chetblong smacks Working_Cat for repeating what it said already
2008-04-08 10:13 < TheWeasel> it sorts results far more logically
2008-04-08 10:13 < Fennec> so, Vista is deniably awful? >.>
2008-04-08 10:13 < Fennec> plausible deniability?
2008-04-08 10:13 < TheWeasel> It's not awful for my purposes.
2008-04-08 10:13 < zocky> "search term" site:wikipedia.org works just fine
2008-04-08 10:13 < Chetblong> Fennec: no Vista is pretty good actually
2008-04-08 10:13 < Working_Cat> lol plausible deniability is what i was gonna say
2008-04-08 10:13 < TheWeasel> it's horribly bloated, but it works for what I'm doing with it
2008-04-08 10:13 < zocky> and you get wikipedia in top ten results for most stuff even without site:wikipedia.org anyway
2008-04-08 10:13 < Working_Cat> zocky: you can even bypass that if you have firefox with google
2008-04-08 10:14 < Bacta> if I switch to Ubuntu altogether can you run Vista in VMWare?
2008-04-08 10:14 < Working_Cat> "wiki en <whatever>" 90% of time takes me directly to my page.
2008-04-08 10:14 < NotACow> BLAP
2008-04-08 10:14 < Chetblong> O_O
2008-04-08 10:14 * Working_Cat flaps
2008-04-08 10:14 < Chetblong> mooo
2008-04-08 10:15 * Chetblong stole moo from NotACow
2008-04-08 10:15 < Fennec> Chetblong: is okay but eats ~.5-1GB more RAM than it ought
2008-04-08 10:15 < Working_Cat> Chetblong is going to die
2008-04-08 10:15 < Chetblong> :O
2008-04-08 10:15 < Working_Cat> Fennec: so it used 4gigs?
2008-04-08 10:15 < Working_Cat> uses*
2008-04-08 10:15 < Chetblong> O_O
2008-04-08 10:16 < Chetblong> Working_Cat: I only have 1 GB RAM
2008-04-08 10:16 < Chetblong> and it works
2008-04-08 10:16 < Working_Cat> jeez, that was a joke
2008-04-08 10:16 < Chetblong> LOL
2008-04-08 10:16 < Chetblong> wait...
2008-04-08 10:16 < Chetblong> it wasn't funny XD
2008-04-08 10:17 < Working_Cat> lol jerk
2008-04-08 10:18 < zocky> vista is probably OK internally, but microsoft should have their UI design department put against the wall
2008-04-08 10:19 * Fennec shrugs.
2008-04-08 10:20 * TheWeasel has reverted to what is essentially a Win98-type design
2008-04-08 10:20 < TheWeasel> with neither bells nor whistles
2008-04-08 10:20 < Working_Cat> no balls either
2008-04-08 10:21 < TheWeasel> Balls and whostles
2008-04-08 10:21 < Fennec> whose which?
2008-04-08 10:21 < TheWeasel> hehe
2008-04-08 10:21 < zocky> poor old goebbels has noe bells at all
2008-04-08 10:22 * NotACow rings goebbel's bells
2008-04-08 10:22 * TheWeasel has this slllllow, terrible Monchengladbach accent in his head now
2008-04-08 10:22 < zocky> TheWeasel, the word Monchengladbach is funny enough by itself
2008-04-08 10:22 < TheWeasel> haha
2008-04-08 10:23 < zocky> what does it mean, anyway?
2008-04-08 10:23 < TheWeasel> He's actually from Rheydt
2008-04-08 10:23 < TheWeasel> good question
2008-04-08 10:23 < zocky> (i know it's a town, I mean the word)
2008-04-08 10:23 < TheWeasel> Mönchen = monks
2008-04-08 10:23 < TheWeasel> bach = creek
2008-04-08 10:23 < TheWeasel> glad...
2008-04-08 10:23 < NotACow> munching monks
2008-04-08 10:23 < TheWeasel> I know that it was formerly written with a dash
2008-04-08 10:24 < TheWeasel> used to be "Gleidebach"
2008-04-08 10:24 < TheWeasel> maybe from gleiten, glatt
2008-04-08 10:24 < TheWeasel> "to slide, slither, slippery"