freenode #wikipedia

2008-04-05 22:49 < Cyrius> there was nothing here to be fooled by
2008-04-05 22:49 < Cyrius> someone on the channel posted a link
2008-04-05 22:49 < Cyrius> I clicked the link
2008-04-05 22:49 < animom> Lucifer_Cat: if rickroll is a video what is this popup thing
2008-04-05 22:49 < Cyrius> animom: a browser trap, and why I got pissed off.
2008-04-05 22:49 < Lucifer_Cat> the popups are javascript codes
2008-04-05 22:49 < Undeference> user_pref("capability.policy.default.Window.alert", "noAccess");
2008-04-05 22:50 < Lucifer_Cat> the joke was supposed to be the vid... but some jerkwads extended it
2008-04-05 22:50 < Krimpet> javascript stupidity ruins the rickroll experience. :/
2008-04-05 22:50 < animom> Lucifer_Cat: does the popup show the video?
2008-04-05 22:50 < cimon> Cyrius, so you sort of figured out my link from the header... and decided against?
2008-04-05 22:50 < Cyrius> Undeference: and prevent things that actually need to use it from using it?
2008-04-05 22:50 < Cyrius> cimon: it was a wmv, I generally avoid videos
2008-04-05 22:50 < Undeference> in my experience, nothing really needs alert
2008-04-05 22:51 < Cyrius> because video content is usually not worth the time
2008-04-05 22:51 < Cyrius> also, it was on ads.devicebondage, and while I don't know what that is
2008-04-05 22:51 < Cyrius> it looks really bad.
2008-04-05 22:51 < Lucifer_Cat> ok dont tell anyone, but when everyone else is asleep, i secret rickroll myself
2008-04-05 22:51 < cimon> Cyrius, that is what I keep telling Mike Halterman, but he still keeps pasting all these silly youtubes in channel...
2008-04-05 22:52 < Mike_H> Why are you still talking about this? I'm going to continue with what I do whether you like it or not.
2008-04-05 22:52 < Lucifer_Cat> lol i was wondering who Halterman was
2008-04-05 22:52 < cimon> Mike_H, so click my link...
2008-04-05 22:52 < Mike_H> cimon: haha
2008-04-05 22:52 < Mike_H> no
2008-04-05 22:52 < Lucifer_Cat> youtube vids are usually safe
2008-04-05 22:53 < Mike_H> Lucifer_Cat: The only thing you can say about my videos is that they may not interest you
2008-04-05 22:53 < nokcat> just gotta ri-
2008-04-05 22:53 < Lucifer_Cat> i dont recall watching any
2008-04-05 22:53 < Mike_H> you and most people
2008-04-05 22:53 < cimon> Mike_H, but have you really got to go all drama queen, when we say just that?
2008-04-05 22:53 < Krimpet> here, for Mike_H: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gJBzu0mlCKk
2008-04-05 22:54 < Lucifer_Cat> nokcat: its candlejack you do that for, not ric-
2008-04-05 22:54 < Mike_H> cimon: You're the one making a point hoping I'll respond.
2008-04-05 22:54 < Mike_H> and then when I did
2008-04-05 22:54 < Mike_H> I'm a drama queen?
2008-04-05 22:54 < Mike_H> girl, please
2008-04-05 22:54 < The359> are some people here channeling RobJ1981?
2008-04-05 22:54 < Mike_H> "but I'm a guyyyy"
2008-04-05 22:54 < Mike_H> I don't care.
2008-04-05 22:54 < Lucifer_Cat> Krimpet: eww
2008-04-05 22:54 < animom> Lucifer_Cat: what is that (krimpet's link)
2008-04-05 22:55 < cimon> I think that answers my question quite thoroughly.
2008-04-05 22:55 < Mike_H> cimon: The prosecution rests?
2008-04-05 22:55 < cimon> no, it knows the judge is in cahoots
2008-04-05 22:56 * Lucifer_Cat wonders if animom is jerking him around or is he jerking him around
2008-04-05 22:56 < animom> Lucifer_Cat: huh?
2008-04-05 22:56 < Lucifer_Cat> animom: its nothing gross.
2008-04-05 22:58 < cimon> neither is my link from devicebondage...
2008-04-05 22:58 < cimon> it is really very sweet in its way...
2008-04-05 22:59 < cimon> http://ads.devicebondage.com/imagedb/5231/v/h/320/5231_6.wmv
2008-04-05 22:59 < cimon> quite innocent
2008-04-05 22:59 * Mike_H rolls eyes
2008-04-05 22:59 < Lucifer_Cat> cimon: NO THANKS
2008-04-05 22:59 < cimon> really, she is really sweet
2008-04-05 22:59 < The359> if a title on something used as a citation misspells a term or something
2008-04-05 22:59 < The359> should there still be a [sic] placed in the title?
2008-04-05 22:59 < Mike_H> Yes.
2008-04-05 23:00 < Mike_H> Wait
2008-04-05 23:00 < Mike_H> No,.
2008-04-05 23:00 < Lucifer_Cat> and also, if its adult/nsfw material - which im sure it is - please tag it so.
2008-04-05 23:00 < Mike_H> Not titles.
2008-04-05 23:00 < The359> that's what I figured
2008-04-05 23:00 < The359> I think someone's bot mistakenly corrected an intentional mistake in a citation's title
2008-04-05 23:02 < AppleBoy> http://www.google.com/search?q=shawn+lonsdale -_-
2008-04-05 23:03 * Chris_G is off to the beach
2008-04-05 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.glumbert.com/media/roadblock
2008-04-05 23:26 < Lucifer_Cat> SFL
2008-04-05 23:37 < Ceiling_Cat> too quiet in here
2008-04-05 23:38 < Fennec> play guitar
2008-04-05 23:39 < cimon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jouko_Turkka - Ceiling Cat, come back at me when you have been sat on by somebody of that calibre...
2008-04-05 23:40 < Ceiling_Cat> http://in.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idINIndia-32865420080405
2008-04-05 23:40 < Ceiling_Cat> WHOA
2008-04-05 23:40 < Ceiling_Cat> DING DING DING
2008-04-05 23:41 < cimon> Ceiling_Cat, Age has it's compensations... At the very least we got to be humiliated by people who got to be famous...
2008-04-05 23:51 < AppleBoy> I can't believe scientology killed another guy
2008-04-05 23:52 < Fennec> ...... mmmmmrfsqgl, I can.
2008-04-05 23:52 < AppleBoy> true, I can, but yeah
2008-04-05 23:53 < Ceiling_Cat> WOW
2008-04-05 23:54 < Ceiling_Cat> these are some really old socks
2008-04-05 23:54 < Ceiling_Cat> someone apparently registered a bunch in september 2006
2008-04-05 23:54 < Ceiling_Cat> and activeted them all in the last week
2008-04-05 23:54 < Cyrius> that's way too much effort
2008-04-05 23:55 < Ceiling_Cat> I think they're Jon Awbrey
2008-04-05 23:55 * Mike_H NP: Pointer Sisters - Slow Hand (1981)
2008-04-05 23:55 < Ceiling_Cat> almost certainly a WR editor
2008-04-05 23:56 < Cyrius> Charlton Heston dead
2008-04-05 23:58 < Ceiling_Cat> really?
2008-04-05 23:58 < Ceiling_Cat> on snap
2008-04-05 23:58 < Arwen> he got raeped
2008-04-05 23:58 < Ceiling_Cat> he was a great actor and a good political activist
2008-04-05 23:58 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: You're too late
2008-04-05 23:58 < Ceiling_Cat> too bad he went absolutely nuts in his last couple of decades
2008-04-05 23:58 < Mike_H> I already pried it from his cold, dead hands
2008-04-05 23:58 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - LEAVE CHARLTON HESTON ALONE!!!
2008-04-05 23:59 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: I MEAN IT!
2008-04-05 23:59 < gwern> hm. charlton heston is dead
2008-04-05 23:59 < Ceiling_Cat> I really liked Planet of the Apes (the 60s version)
2008-04-06 00:00 < gwern> perhaps we can now take his guns
2008-04-06 00:00 < Ceiling_Cat> it's a good movie
2008-04-06 00:00 * gwern wonders why we all can't just get along
2008-04-06 00:00 < Ceiling_Cat> is James Whitmore the last survivor from that film?
2008-04-06 00:01 < Ceiling_Cat> oh no, Linda Harrison too
2008-04-06 00:01 < Not_the_NSA> night Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-06 00:01 < d4t4min3r> can anyone here help me
2008-04-06 00:02 < d4t4min3r> im wonding if yall think my article would be considered spam...
2008-04-06 00:02 < gwern> 'Alexander Shulgin endured a government crackdown and hallucinations of his bones melting in pursuit of new mind-bending compounds' <-- oh noes, my bones are melting! But I need them to walk!
2008-04-06 00:02 < uberpenguin> MIKE H
2008-04-06 00:02 < uberpenguin> what is up, friend Mike?
2008-04-06 00:02 < d4t4min3r> howdy
2008-04-06 00:02 < d4t4min3r> can anyone take a look at a article and tell me if you think its spam
2008-04-06 00:03 < gwern> spam? BUT THAT"S TODAY"S MAGIC WORD!!!!
2008-04-06 00:03 < gwern> AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!111!!!
2008-04-06 00:03 < gwern> (spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam wonderful SPAAAM!!!!)
2008-04-06 00:05 < Ceiling_Cat> grrrr
2008-04-06 00:05 < Ceiling_Cat> it's 1 AM and some asshats are setting off fire crackers outside
2008-04-06 00:05 < Ceiling_Cat> should I call the police?
2008-04-06 00:05 < Ceiling_Cat> (they've been doing it for 4 hours)
2008-04-06 00:05 < Cyrius> gwern: there's the Robot Chicken bit where the secret word is 'cancer' =)
2008-04-06 00:06 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: that's a lot of fireworks
2008-04-06 00:06 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: you should go join'em. fireworks are great
2008-04-06 00:06 < Cyrius> what are they doing with fireworks this time of year?
2008-04-06 00:07 < gwern> Cyrius: exploding them, it seems
2008-04-06 00:08 < Ceiling_Cat> not fireworks - firecrackers
2008-04-06 00:08 < Ceiling_Cat> the ones that exist simply to make loud bangs
2008-04-06 00:10 < gwern> I dunno why, but I really like the ending theme to [[Spice and Wolf]], even tho' objectively it's not all that great
2008-04-06 00:18 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> the average white American's height is 5'10 1/2"
2008-04-06 00:18 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> that really depresses me
2008-04-06 00:19 < uberpenguin> the average american is pretty boring
2008-04-06 00:19 < uberpenguin> embrace your non-averageness
2008-04-06 00:19 < Cyrius> Mike_H: why?
2008-04-06 00:20 < Mike_H> Cyrius: I'm short :(
2008-04-06 00:21 < Mike_H> that's white American male
2008-04-06 00:21 < Mike_H> white American females average 5'4 1/2"
2008-04-06 00:23 * Ceiling_Cat is 17 feet tall
2008-04-06 00:24 < Cyrius> so how short are you?
2008-04-06 00:24 < nokcat> Ceiling_Cat is 17 feet high
2008-04-06 00:24 < Mike_H> Cyrius: 5'7"
2008-04-06 00:24 < Cyrius> ceiling cat can't be 17 feet tall
2008-04-06 00:24 < Cyrius> he wouldn't fit in the ceiling
2008-04-06 00:24 < nokcat> Ceiling_Cat needs to get off his pot, if you ask me
2008-04-06 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> cyrius - that's what the hole in the roof is for
2008-04-06 00:25 < Ceiling_Cat> the exposed cute face is only the tip of the ice berg
2008-04-06 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Robert Wadlow]]
2008-04-06 00:26 < Ceiling_Cat> Tallest man ever
2008-04-06 00:26 < Mike_H> :(
2008-04-06 00:27 < Cyrius> trust me, the only thing that's great about being tall is that you can get at the top shelf easily
2008-04-06 00:27 < Paine> BBC News 24 just fucking rickrolled me.
2008-04-06 00:27 < Cyrius> Paine: merely showing the video isn't a rickroll
2008-04-06 00:28 < Cyrius> was there some form of trickery?
2008-04-06 00:28 < Paine> Cyrius: They were showing it because of the growing trend of rickrolling.
2008-04-06 00:28 < Paine> So... in a very roundabout way, yes.
2008-04-06 00:28 < Cyrius> "We're going to show you Rick Astley" + showing the video isn't a rickroll
2008-04-06 00:29 < Paine> They didn't tell me they were showing the video beforehand
2008-04-06 00:29 < Paine> all of a sudden it just burst in playing.
2008-04-06 00:29 < Cyrius> maybe =)
2008-04-06 00:33 < The359> hmm
2008-04-06 00:33 < The359> Charlton Heston died
2008-04-06 00:33 < Paine> Yep.
2008-04-06 01:51 < Qb_Master> lol
2008-04-06 01:51 < Qb_Master> there are exactly 329 integers important enough to post wiki articles on :)
2008-04-06 01:51 < amidaniel> Surely there are more than 329
2008-04-06 01:52 < Qb_Master> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Integers
2008-04-06 01:52 < Qb_Master> I thought there would be too
2008-04-06 01:52 < amidaniel> That cat's missing a lot of them
2008-04-06 01:52 * amidaniel adds a couple
2008-04-06 01:52 < Qb_Master> lame
2008-04-06 01:52 < nixeagle> we need more numbers!
2008-04-06 01:52 < Qb_Master> lol
2008-04-06 01:52 < Qb_Master> let's go through until we reach the end of the number system!
2008-04-06 01:53 < Qb_Master> hahahaha
2008-04-06 01:53 < Qb_Master> lol
2008-04-06 01:53 * Qb_Master writes an auto-wiki-page-generator thing and uses it to generate pages of every number
2008-04-06 01:53 < nixeagle> Qb_Master, ok, you start at 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,312, and I'll start around -1,000,000,003
2008-04-06 01:53 * Enterprise_Cat blocks Qb_Master length:indefinite;reason:Operation of an illegal bot
2008-04-06 01:54 < Qb_Master> lol
2008-04-06 01:54 < Qb_Master> okay you can take the negatives :)
2008-04-06 01:54 < Qb_Master> and don't forget about NaN
2008-04-06 01:54 < Qb_Master> lol
2008-04-06 01:54 < Qb_Master> and -0
2008-04-06 01:55 < Qb_Master> :)
2008-04-06 01:55 < nixeagle> :P
2008-04-06 01:56 < Qb_Master> if Wikipedia posted a thing on the main page saying for people to post articles about all the numbers, I wonder how many we'd get :)
2008-04-06 01:56 < amidaniel> NaN is only ever used in fp ops though, isn't it?
2008-04-06 01:56 < amidaniel> In which case it wouldn't be an integer
2008-04-06 01:56 < Qb_Master> true
2008-04-06 01:57 < Qb_Master> someone should write a legit bot to add the integers that do have pages to the category :p
2008-04-06 01:58 < Qb_Master> that'd be so cool
2008-04-06 01:58 < Qb_Master> seeing a page full of apparently important numbers
2008-04-06 01:59 < Qb_Master> useless tho :)
2008-04-06 03:01 < Qb_Master> wow
2008-04-06 03:01 < Qb_Master> I just went the past 4 days thinking it was a day ahead what it really was
2008-04-06 03:01 < Qb_Master> haha
2008-04-06 03:01 < Qb_Master> thought tomorrow was monday
2008-04-06 03:02 < Qb_Master> er
2008-04-06 03:02 < Qb_Master> today (now)
2008-04-06 03:12 < amidaniel> Query is running :)
2008-04-06 03:16 < amidaniel> http://mediawiki.pastey.net/85195
2008-04-06 03:16 < amidaniel> knock yourself out
2008-04-06 03:26 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-04-06 03:28 < Enterprise_Cat> And another refreshing review of the ANI archives :P
2008-04-06 03:34 < Fabexplosive> ooh, another cat?
2008-04-06 03:39 < Chetblong> O_O
2008-04-06 03:40 < Calico_Cat> Fabexplosive: meow?
2008-04-06 03:42 < Fabexplosive> ooh
2008-04-06 03:42 < Fabexplosive> :O
2008-04-06 03:42 < Fabexplosive> :D
2008-04-06 03:42 < Enterprise_Cat> :?
2008-04-06 03:42 < Enterprise_Cat> Fabexplosive: Since when were cats rare things on this channel?
2008-04-06 03:43 < Fabexplosive> uhm, i know ceiling cat, white cat and some other cats
2008-04-06 03:43 < Fabexplosive> 2 new cats :DD
2008-04-06 03:43 < Enterprise_Cat> Fabexplosive: When's the last time you entered the channel?
2008-04-06 03:43 < Fabexplosive> 1 year
2008-04-06 03:43 < Calico_Cat> haha
2008-04-06 03:44 < Fabexplosive> but in this hours never
2008-04-06 03:44 < Calico_Cat> it's teh #wikipedia after dark
2008-04-06 03:44 < Calico_Cat> XD
2008-04-06 03:44 < Fabexplosive> ah
2008-04-06 03:44 < Calico_Cat> lol
2008-04-06 03:45 < Fabexplosive> in my country is morning, 9.45 am
2008-04-06 03:45 < Calico_Cat> ah
2008-04-06 03:45 < Enterprise_Cat> Fabexplosive: So much has changed in one year
2008-04-06 03:46 < Enterprise_Cat> One year ago I didn't even know what IRC was :P
2008-04-06 03:46 < Fabexplosive> :)
2008-04-06 03:46 < Fabexplosive> i'm op here
2008-04-06 03:46 < Cyrius> hey, it's Fabexplosive
2008-04-06 03:47 < Fabexplosive> hey Cyrius
2008-04-06 03:47 < Enterprise_Cat> Fabexplosive: O RLY?
2008-04-06 03:47 < Fabexplosive> yep
2008-04-06 03:47 < Enterprise_Cat> Ahh
2008-04-06 03:47 < Enterprise_Cat> So iz I :)
2008-04-06 03:47 < Fabexplosive> ;)
2008-04-06 03:47 < Calico_Cat> lol
2008-04-06 03:48 < Mask> anybody have some experience with fluxbox on ultramobile laptops?
2008-04-06 03:48 < Enterprise_Cat> Mask: #fluxbox?
2008-04-06 03:49 < Mask> specifically, why the hell my slit wont go to the left or right edge and only top or bottom
2008-04-06 03:49 < Mask> srsly?
2008-04-06 03:49 < Mask> wow
2008-04-06 03:49 < Enterprise_Cat> Mask: No
2008-04-06 03:49 < Mask> freenode rocks
2008-04-06 03:49 < Enterprise_Cat> ;)
2008-04-06 03:49 < Fabexplosive> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_guidelines/wikipedia/Operators
2008-04-06 03:50 * Enterprise_Cat may leave computer on tonight
2008-04-06 03:50 < Enterprise_Cat> Fabexplosive: Screw that list, it's called /cs access #wikipedia list
2008-04-06 03:50 < Fabexplosive> i know ;)
2008-04-06 03:52 < Enterprise_Cat> oh teh noes, teh SWATJester!
2008-04-06 03:53 * Enterprise_Cat is now going to bed, good night!
2008-04-06 03:54 < Calico_Cat> nite
2008-04-06 03:55 < Fabexplosive> night
2008-04-06 03:55 < Mask> everybody is always away on this server, meanwhile my install of flux is annoying me with its slit placement. Dammit, why wont the world revolve around me.
2008-04-06 04:10 < Lubaf> Why isn't there a Kitty_Cat?
2008-04-06 04:10 < Lubaf> Or a Catdog?
2008-04-06 04:10 < Lubaf> Dog_Cat, where are you?
2008-04-06 04:10 < Mask> so, anyone else going to the board's open house monday?
2008-04-06 04:36 < denelson83> Dang... Still no cloak
2008-04-06 04:37 < denelson83> If I take the trunks of trees and erect them in the middle of a town square, is that considered public posting of logs?
2008-04-06 04:38 < magic> :)
2008-04-06 04:38 < britta> should this be merged somewhere? blank article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._396_Expeditionary_Combat_Support_Wing_RAAF
2008-04-06 04:38 < mavhc> denelson83: if you put them in a mailbox it might be
2008-04-06 04:38 < britta> some of its "units" are also blank articles
2008-04-06 04:40 < Cyrius> britta: so is its parent
2008-04-06 04:41 < Cyrius> I think the Wing probably could use an article
2008-04-06 04:41 < Cyrius> but that's fairly useless
2008-04-06 04:41 < britta> seems like they were a person's project a while ago that never got quite finished
2008-04-06 04:42 < britta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Justinbrett
2008-04-06 04:52 < Mike_H> lul
2008-04-06 04:52 < Mike_H> *lulz
2008-04-06 04:53 < Mike_H> I just saw a commercial for "Dick Clark's American Bandstand 50th Anniversary Music Collection"
2008-04-06 04:53 < Mike_H> from Time-Life
2008-04-06 04:53 < Mike_H> well, commercial isn't the right word to say
2008-04-06 04:53 < Mike_H> more like 30-minute infomercial
2008-04-06 04:53 < Mike_H> hosted by Frankie Avalon and Debbie Gibson
2008-04-06 04:53 < Mike_H> at first I didn't recognize her, I thought she was just Frankie's daughter or something
2008-04-06 04:58 < Cyrius> I was trying to find something to watch a little while ago
2008-04-06 04:58 < Cyrius> a bunch of lame time-life infomercials
2008-04-06 04:58 < Mike_H> that's what's on at this time of night
2008-04-06 04:58 < Cyrius> and exercise machines
2008-04-06 04:59 < Mike_H> Cyrius: I found a condensed version of it on YouTube
2008-04-06 04:59 < Mike_H> this makes me kind of sad.
2008-04-06 04:59 < Cyrius> eh?
2008-04-06 04:59 < Mike_H> The infomercial
2008-04-06 04:59 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlceRwdr3pU
2008-04-06 05:00 < Cyrius> why did you look for this on youtube?
2008-04-06 05:01 < Mike_H> Cyrius: Because I wanted to prove that it was real
2008-04-06 05:01 < Mike_H> and that I didn't hallucinate it
2008-04-06 05:02 < Cyrius> I understand that feeling.
2008-04-06 05:40 < hardtodrink> hello
2008-04-06 05:57 < White_Cat> dzasta?
2008-04-06 05:57 < White_Cat> still angry?
2008-04-06 05:57 < dzasta> no
2008-04-06 05:57 * dzasta is mellow
2008-04-06 06:00 < kim_> Going to be doing wikipedia lectures at 15:00 UTC
2008-04-06 06:02 < White_Cat> kim_ teaching who?
2008-04-06 06:02 < White_Cat> kim_ I recall siging up for teaching in wikimania
2008-04-06 06:02 < White_Cat> was it with you?
2008-04-06 06:03 < Qb_Master> hey guys
2008-04-06 06:03 < Qb_Master> in a drug/chemical box on wikipedia how does one make a note for the boiling point that it decomposes?
2008-04-06 06:04 < Qb_Master> I can't do it without inputting a temperature
2008-04-06 06:04 < kim_> White_Cat, potentially
2008-04-06 06:04 < kim_> but first on irc :-P
2008-04-06 06:04 < kim_> #wikipediaen-lectures
2008-04-06 06:04 < Qb_Master> me?
2008-04-06 06:04 < kim_> no :-P
2008-04-06 06:04 < Qb_Master> lolk
2008-04-06 06:04 < White_Cat> channel is empty kim_
2008-04-06 06:04 < kim_> White_Cat, yes it is
2008-04-06 06:04 < Cyrius> Qb_Master: no idea.
2008-04-06 06:04 < kim_> oops
2008-04-06 06:04 < kim_> #wikipedia-en-lectures
2008-04-06 06:05 < kim_> missed a dash
2008-04-06 06:05 < Cyrius> Qb_Master: what happens if you just put the note in?
2008-04-06 06:05 < Qb_Master> the spot stays blank
2008-04-06 06:05 < Qb_Master> unless I put a temperature in there too
2008-04-06 06:05 < Cyrius> what template are you using?
2008-04-06 06:05 < Qb_Master> um, the second one I believe
2008-04-06 06:05 < Qb_Master> but I'm adding on to the one that's already there
2008-04-06 06:06 < Cyrius> ...that doesn't help me
2008-04-06 06:06 < Cyrius> I don't know what article you're on
2008-04-06 06:06 < Qb_Master> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextromethorphan
2008-04-06 06:06 < Qb_Master> umm, I closed the template page so I have to find it again
2008-04-06 06:06 < kim_> White_Cat, #wikipedia-en-lectures dashes were wrong
2008-04-06 06:07 < Cyrius> {{drugbox}}?
2008-04-06 06:07 < Qb_Master> k ya I was using the full single-drug template, but only the boiling point and boiling notes
2008-04-06 06:07 < White_Cat> a big crowd there
2008-04-06 06:07 < Qb_Master> yes
2008-04-06 06:07 < Qb_Master> | boiling-point =
2008-04-06 06:07 < Qb_Master> | boiling-notes = Decomposes
2008-04-06 06:08 < Qb_Master> that's what I'd like but it won't put the 'decomposes' without a temp
2008-04-06 06:08 < Cyrius> I don't suppose there is a temperature for that =)
2008-04-06 06:09 < Qb_Master> well I've seen it done
2008-04-06 06:09 < Qb_Master> I just can't think of any chems that decompose off the top of my head that didn't have the bp listed
2008-04-06 06:10 < Cyrius> Qb_Master: tried just putting boiling_point = decomposes ? =)
2008-04-06 06:10 < Qb_Master> yeah
2008-04-06 06:10 < Qb_Master> that gives a big red error
2008-04-06 06:11 < Qb_Master> Decomposes: unknown expression or something like that
2008-04-06 06:11 < Cyrius> damn template bastards getting too clever
2008-04-06 06:11 < Qb_Master> lol
2008-04-06 06:11 < Qb_Master> actually I just found out
2008-04-06 06:11 < Qb_Master> *one
2008-04-06 06:11 < Qb_Master> ya put it in '' ''
2008-04-06 06:11 < Qb_Master> ima try that
2008-04-06 06:12 < Qb_Master> nope
2008-04-06 06:12 < Qb_Master> that didn't work either
2008-04-06 06:13 < Qb_Master> :/
2008-04-06 06:13 < Qb_Master> (btw I do have a reference that states this)
2008-04-06 06:13 < Cyrius> yeah, I saw a MSDS
2008-04-06 06:13 < Cyrius> with "decomposes" with no temperature
2008-04-06 06:14 < Qb_Master> ya
2008-04-06 06:14 < Qb_Master> that info used to actually be on the page but somebody erased it awhile back
2008-04-06 06:14 < Qb_Master> for no apparent reason
2008-04-06 06:15 < Qb_Master> (btw wikipedia is a chemist's dream :D)
2008-04-06 06:15 < Cyrius> dang clever bastards have the template doing the C->F conversion
2008-04-06 06:15 < Qb_Master> i noticed that lol
2008-04-06 06:15 < Cyrius> Qb_Master: there was some concern about us pissing off IUPAC for a while =)
2008-04-06 06:15 < Qb_Master> heh no kidding
2008-04-06 06:16 * Cyrius pets a (real) cat
2008-04-06 06:16 < Qb_Master> what I'm surprised about is that all the chems, even ones that are watched, are allowed to have syntheses on the pages
2008-04-06 06:17 < Cyrius> bugger thinks being in my lap is the best thing ever
2008-04-06 06:17 < Qb_Master> I always thought that someone would freak out about that :p
2008-04-06 06:17 < Cyrius> DEA hasn't complained yet (that I know of)
2008-04-06 06:17 < Qb_Master> sweet :)
2008-04-06 06:17 < Qb_Master> that's a def. good thing
2008-04-06 06:17 < kim_> Um, why is it strange that people have access to information?
2008-04-06 06:17 < Qb_Master> lol, because this is America (well for some of us)
2008-04-06 06:18 < Cyrius> kim_: because there is chemistry information that many people would rather disappeared
2008-04-06 06:18 < Cyrius> drugs, explosives
2008-04-06 06:18 < Qb_Master> lol Acetone peroxide I think had a synth on it, not sure if it still does
2008-04-06 06:18 < kim_> what part of "shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom of speech
2008-04-06 06:18 < kim_> "
2008-04-06 06:18 < Qb_Master> mdma has an almost full synth up
2008-04-06 06:18 < kim_> do you not understand?
2008-04-06 06:18 < kim_> They should make the synths complete
2008-04-06 06:19 < kim_> ;-)
2008-04-06 06:19 < Qb_Master> yeah, I agree
2008-04-06 06:19 < kim_> if someone blows something up using wikipedia
2008-04-06 06:19 < Qb_Master> lol I understand it but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't try to keep that kind of thing quiet
2008-04-06 06:19 < Cyrius> the part where the masses want to be "protected" from evil chemicals
2008-04-06 06:19 < hardtodrink> hey
2008-04-06 06:19 < hardtodrink> im not sure
2008-04-06 06:19 < kim_> well, wikipedias don't blow up people, people blow up people
2008-04-06 06:19 < Qb_Master> lol
2008-04-06 06:19 < Cyrius> 'For its instability, it has been called the "Mother of Satan"' <- acetone peroxide seems to be nasty
2008-04-06 06:19 < kim_> hardtodrink, me neither
2008-04-06 06:20 < Qb_Master> haha ya
2008-04-06 06:20 < hardtodrink> but would this page be against the "neutral point of view" thing? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Power_Rangers:_Lightspeed_Rescue&curid=499709&diff=203718638&oldid=199771780
2008-04-06 06:20 < Qb_Master> I think personally that we should have every bit of information like that publically available
2008-04-06 06:20 < hardtodrink> sorry im a newb
2008-04-06 06:20 < Cyrius> hardtodrink: um, yes
2008-04-06 06:20 < hardtodrink> ok
2008-04-06 06:20 < hardtodrink> so do i revert it?
2008-04-06 06:20 < Cyrius> already done
2008-04-06 06:21 < hardtodrink> ok
2008-04-06 06:21 < hardtodrink> np then :)
2008-04-06 06:21 < hardtodrink> thanks for your help
2008-04-06 06:21 < Qb_Master> because the more information that people have, the more decisions they can form on their own about things and the closer we will become to a perfect world :)
2008-04-06 06:21 < Cyrius> I didn't do anything
2008-04-06 06:21 < kim_> hardtodrink, I love it though
2008-04-06 06:21 < Cyrius> hardtodrink: and for the future: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Reverting
2008-04-06 06:21 < kim_> it's probably more true than what was there before? :-P
2008-04-06 06:21 < hardtodrink> lol
2008-04-06 06:21 < kim_> (at a guess)
2008-04-06 06:22 < kim_> maybe some of the criticism could be sourced and integrated
2008-04-06 06:23 < Qb_Master> heh
2008-04-06 06:23 < Qb_Master> well I suppose it's good enough that I managed to get the melting point up there
2008-04-06 06:24 < Qb_Master> maybe someone else will come along and fix the boiling point
2008-04-06 06:27 < Qb_Master> ...wait
2008-04-06 06:27 < Qb_Master> can one have a chem box and a drug box?
2008-04-06 06:28 < Cyrius> it would be considered messy, probably
2008-04-06 06:28 < Cyrius> but there's nothing preventing you from trying it
2008-04-06 06:28 < Qb_Master> there should be some sort of combination template between the two
2008-04-06 06:29 < Qb_Master> ...seeing as a lot of drugs generally are chemicals too
2008-04-06 06:29 < hardtodrink> um
2008-04-06 06:29 < hardtodrink> this page kinda removes a secton: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bong&curid=38314&diff=203719942&oldid=203664760
2008-04-06 06:30 < hardtodrink> but does it come under vandalism?
2008-04-06 06:30 < hardtodrink> there might have been a reason
2008-04-06 06:30 < Cyrius> anonymous user with no stated reason, I'd put it back
2008-04-06 06:31 < Cyrius> although I don't care for the paragraph
2008-04-06 06:31 < Qb_Master> hmm, but it isn't correct
2008-04-06 06:31 < Qb_Master> drinking bong water does nothing but fil you with carcinogens
2008-04-06 06:31 < Cyrius> I wouldn't know
2008-04-06 06:31 * hardtodrink is confused
2008-04-06 06:31 < Qb_Master> I have one for my tobaccy
2008-04-06 06:31 < hardtodrink> so do i revert it?
2008-04-06 06:31 < Qb_Master> the water filters out the carcinogens while allowing the water-insoluble stuff to go thru
2008-04-06 06:32 < OvrLrd-Q> I'd leave it out
2008-04-06 06:32 < Qb_Master> so you don't die as quickly
2008-04-06 06:32 < Qb_Master> lol
2008-04-06 06:32 < Cyrius> hardtodrink: I gave you a link to the documentation for reverting =)
2008-04-06 06:32 < OvrLrd-Q> it claims 'clinical trials' but doesn't link to any sort of actual citations
2008-04-06 06:32 < hardtodrink> i know
2008-04-06 06:32 < hardtodrink> but im just confused about whether its vandalism or not
2008-04-06 06:32 < Qb_Master> oh
2008-04-06 06:33 < Qb_Master> if something doesn't have a citation and I feel it oughta, how do I add that 'citation needed' thing?
2008-04-06 06:33 < Luna-San> {{fact}}
2008-04-06 06:33 < Qb_Master> is it just [fact=date] or w/e?
2008-04-06 06:33 < Qb_Master> k
2008-04-06 06:33 < Qb_Master> gracias :)
2008-04-06 06:34 < Luna-San> Yep yep. :) There is a date parameter, but it's (a) optional and (b) I forget what format it wants -- it's picky. Usually a bot follows you around and updates that, anyway. :p
2008-04-06 06:34 < Luna-San> SmackBot I think it usually is.
2008-04-06 06:34 < Qb_Master> btw hardtodrink: I found evidence contradicting that paragraph
2008-04-06 06:34 < Qb_Master> http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=2219
2008-04-06 06:34 < hardtodrink> oh k
2008-04-06 06:35 < Qb_Master> in case that helps :)
2008-04-06 06:36 < Qb_Master> hehe smackbot
2008-04-06 06:36 < Qb_Master> I found out about cluebot earlier
2008-04-06 06:36 < Qb_Master> that's a cool one :)
2008-04-06 06:37 < Qb_Master> the anti-vandalism bot
2008-04-06 06:38 < Qb_Master> (it's so sad that people would vandalize a free, open-source service...)
2008-04-06 06:42 * Qb_Master yawns
2008-04-06 06:42 < Qb_Master> well guys it's like 4am where I am]
2008-04-06 06:43 < Qb_Master> way later than I'm should be awake lol
2008-04-06 06:43 < Qb_Master> so ima stay where I am on my bed and fall asleep :)
2008-04-06 06:43 < Qb_Master> nite
2008-04-06 06:59 < Chetblong> nite
2008-04-06 06:59 < Chetblong> oh wait
2008-04-06 06:59 < Chetblong> i just popped in
2008-04-06 06:59 < Chetblong> and now i leave again
2008-04-06 06:59 * Chetblong poofs
2008-04-06 06:59 < Luna-San> Nooooo
2008-04-06 06:59 * Luna-San drags Chetblong back to stand trial
2008-04-06 06:59 < Chetblong> :O
2008-04-06 06:59 < Chetblong> oh noes
2008-04-06 07:02 < Luna-San> The defendant is charged with fleeing trial. o.o
2008-04-06 07:02 < Chetblong> :O
2008-04-06 07:02 * Chetblong runs
2008-04-06 07:07 < Simeon_H> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Records
2008-04-06 07:07 < Simeon_H> umm
2008-04-06 07:07 < Simeon_H> wtf dudes
2008-04-06 07:08 < Simeon_H> the assrape house?
2008-04-06 07:08 < Chetblong> O_O
2008-04-06 07:09 < OvrLrd-Q> ?
2008-04-06 07:09 < OvrLrd-Q> rofl
2008-04-06 07:10 < Chetblong> Simeon_H: i've moved it back
2008-04-06 07:10 < Simeon_H> haha
2008-04-06 07:11 < Chetblong> and given them a only warning
2008-04-06 07:11 < Chetblong> *an
2008-04-06 07:11 < Simeon_H> look at all the == '''YOU SUCK''' == vandalism
2008-04-06 07:13 < OvrLrd-Q> where's about?
2008-04-06 07:16 < Luna-San> Yeah, it's based on a Weird Al music video
2008-04-06 07:16 < Luna-San> The "YOU SUCK" thing at [[Atlantic Records]] I mean
2008-04-06 07:19 < pengo> if you really do suck then is it ok?
2008-04-06 07:19 < Luna-San> Only if you can cite it.
2008-04-06 07:19 < Chetblong> {{fact}}
2008-04-06 07:20 < Chetblong> XD
2008-04-06 07:20 < kim_> {{citation needed}}
2008-04-06 07:20 < pengo> <ref>everyone says so</ref>
2008-04-06 07:21 < Chetblong> lol
2008-04-06 07:21 < pengo> <ref>{{cite schoolyard|you can ask anyone}}</ref>
2008-04-06 07:21 < Chetblong> [[Special:BlockIP/pengo]]
2008-04-06 07:21 < Chetblong> XD
2008-04-06 07:21 < pengo> :(
2008-04-06 07:21 < Chetblong> lol
2008-04-06 07:21 < pengo> that's the last time i cite my sources
2008-04-06 07:22 < Chetblong> hahahaha
2008-04-06 07:22 < Chetblong> pengo: {{fact}}
2008-04-06 07:22 < Chetblong> XD
2008-04-06 07:22 < pengo> <ref>I swear, man</ref>
2008-04-06 07:22 < Chetblong> {{weaselword}}
2008-04-06 07:23 < Chetblong> {{dubious}}
2008-04-06 07:23 < Chetblong> XD
2008-04-06 07:24 < pengo> <s>{{dubious}}</s> no discussion given
2008-04-06 07:24 < Chetblong> {{NPOV}}
2008-04-06 07:24 < Chetblong> XD
2008-04-06 07:25 < pengo> man you try writing an article for a change
2008-04-06 07:26 < Chetblong> lol
2008-04-06 07:27 < ST47> Articles suck.
2008-04-06 07:27 < Chetblong> [[Unita Blackwell]] is the one I've been working on
2008-04-06 07:27 < pengo> {{POV}}
2008-04-06 07:27 < Chetblong> lol
2008-04-06 07:35 < pengo> we have no article on root balls
2008-04-06 07:37 < pengo> Chetblong: you'd know.. what's the template for "this is written in an instructional tone instead of encyclopedic" ?
2008-04-06 07:37 < pengo> [[Digging trees and shrubs for transplanting]]
2008-04-06 07:37 < Chetblong> hmm...
2008-04-06 07:38 < Cyrius> {{howto}} ?
2008-04-06 07:39 < Chetblong> damn Cyrius you're faster
2008-04-06 07:47 < Luna-San> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tomb_of_Antipope_John_XXIII&diff=203726874&oldid=203725043 <-- thoughts?
2008-04-06 07:48 < Luna-San> They're adding a link to a Flickr image (copyrighted as "all rights reserved" over there). It is topical, but I don't think this sort of linking is standard.
2008-04-06 07:48 < Cyrius> I'd remove it
2008-04-06 07:49 < Cyrius> non-free, probably replacable, not great quality
2008-04-06 08:17 < arcimboldo_> "There have been a total of 0 page views, and 4,958 page edits since Wikibooks was setup. That comes to 2.81 average edits per page, and 0.00 views per edit."
2008-04-06 08:18 < arcimboldo_> That statistics must be quite depressing for the editors.
2008-04-06 08:18 < arcimboldo_> -s
2008-04-06 08:18 < nsh> pwnd
2008-04-06 08:19 < nsh> but i suspect there's some degree of inaccuracy in those figures
2008-04-06 08:19 < nsh> probably the degree at which wrong sublimates
2008-04-06 08:20 < nsh> (-10 bargons)
2008-04-06 08:21 < arcimboldo_> simple English, simple statistics.
2008-04-06 08:23 < Werdna> nsh: And by inaccuracy, you mean "pageview counting is turned off on wikimedia"
2008-04-06 08:25 < nsh> retrospectively, yes
2008-04-06 08:30 < mutante> what can i do to insert an external link that is clickable, but prevent it from being parsed, like there is ' and {{ inside the external URL (AutoEdit links) and i want to put them on a wiki page
2008-04-06 08:33 < Luna-San> Hmm... that sounds pretty difficult. :) What's the link?
2008-04-06 08:34 < Werdna> well, I've just successfully made my first global block.
2008-04-06 08:34 < JessicaTaylor> Hello everybody
2008-04-06 08:35 < snowolf> hi JessicaTaylor
2008-04-06 08:35 < JessicaTaylor> Hi
2008-04-06 08:44 < kim_> Hello JessicaTaylor
2008-04-06 08:45 < JessicaTaylor> Hi kim
2008-04-06 08:45 < mutante> Luna-San: f.e. http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=bardandoci&action=edit&autoedit=s~'''bardandoci'''~{{infl|it|verb_form}}~g&autoclick=wpSave&autominor=true&autosummary=WP:Categorizing-{{infl|it|verb_form}}-using_autoedit
2008-04-06 08:45 < mutante> (be careful clicking it if AutoEdit enabled ;P)
2008-04-06 08:46 < Werdna> whee
2008-04-06 08:46 < Werdna> Your IP address has been blocked on all Wikimedia wikis by Andrew (home_wiki). The reason given was "I don't like him". The block expires at 12:21, 6 July 2008.
2008-04-06 08:46 < snowolf> Werdna: is it ready? O.o
2008-04-06 08:47 < Werdna> no, not quite yet
2008-04-06 08:47 < Werdna> I still have to do some minor stuff
2008-04-06 08:47 < Werdna> you know, unblocking and the like :P
2008-04-06 08:47 < snowolf> unblocking? naaaaa, why? no need for it :P
2008-04-06 08:49 < Werdna> heh
2008-04-06 08:49 < Werdna> and a list of blocks
2008-04-06 08:49 < Werdna> but yeah, it's roughly in place
2008-04-06 08:49 < Werdna> a few days should crack it
2008-04-06 08:49 < Werdna> then about six months of testing... and 3 months of configuring it on wikimedia :P
2008-04-06 08:49 < Werdna> nah
2008-04-06 08:49 < Werdna> we should have global blocking before the month is out
2008-04-06 08:49 < Werdna> and I'll be ticked if we don't, because I want the scholarships committee for alexandria to see it :P
2008-04-06 08:50 < snowolf> LoL
2008-04-06 08:50 < Luna-San> mutante: Hm... try and see if this works? http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=bardandoci&action=edit&autoedit=s~%27%27%27bardandoci%27%27%27~%7B%7Binfl|it|verb_form%7D%7D~g&autoclick=wpSave&autominor=true&autosummary=WP:Categorizing-%7B%7Binfl|it|verb_form%7D%7D-using_autoedit
2008-04-06 08:50 < Simeon_H> woah
2008-04-06 08:50 < Simeon_H> the next G network is pretty fast
2008-04-06 08:50 < snowolf> Werdna: enabled for steward, am I correct in the assumption?
2008-04-06 08:50 < Werdna> yeah, next g is pretty pro
2008-04-06 08:50 < Werdna> no idea :P
2008-04-06 08:50 < Luna-San> Just enable it for everybody. AGF and all that.
2008-04-06 08:51 * snowolf sees moar drama
2008-04-06 08:51 < Werdna> at the moment, it's totally unrestricted .. but I assume brion will want some permissions checks somewhere :P
2008-04-06 08:51 < snowolf> Luna-San: ahaahahahaah
2008-04-06 08:56 < mutante> Luna-San: thanks, appearst to be working
2008-04-06 08:56 < Luna-San> mutante: Ah, phew. Percent encoding saves the day.
2008-04-06 08:58 < mutante> Luna-San: yeah, mass categorizing project on en.wikt, using AutoEdit and local scripts ;)
2008-04-06 09:09 < NotACow> so, have they pried the rifle from heston's cold hands yet?
2008-04-06 09:09 < snowolf> Werdna: sorry to bother you again, will some kind of local override be available to local communities? (speaking of the global unblock)
2008-04-06 09:12 * ThePolecat_ contracts Hepatitis X
2008-04-06 09:14 < Werdna> snowolf: It's possible.
2008-04-06 09:14 * Werdna goes to bed
2008-04-06 09:14 < ThePolecat_> "Minister Steinmeier Congratulates New Finnish Colleague Stubb"
2008-04-06 09:14 * ThePolecat_ chuckles
2008-04-06 09:16 < Ryan_wp> Good morning.
2008-04-06 09:17 < str4nd> Good afternoon.
2008-04-06 09:21 < Ryan_wp> Good morning, afternoon, or evening. There, nothing can go wrong. :)
2008-04-06 09:21 < NotACow> good morning
2008-04-06 09:21 < NotACow> it's always morning somewhere
2008-04-06 09:22 < Ryan_wp> It's also always night... ...somewhere.
2008-04-06 09:22 < NotACow> Ryan_wp: so? :)
2008-04-06 09:22 < snowolf> Ryan_wp: it could be good night :)
2008-04-06 09:22 < Ryan_wp> :)
2008-04-06 09:25 * Ryan_wp yawns.
2008-04-06 09:27 < kim_> Ryan_wp, good timezone
2008-04-06 09:28 < kim_> !chanop
2008-04-06 09:29 * cat hugs mark_ryan
2008-04-06 09:29 * Ryan_wp is starting the "steamroller". (a.k.a. [[wp:huggle]])
2008-04-06 09:32 < Ryaway_wp> Dang... time to go.
2008-04-06 09:32 < ST47> kim_: ?
2008-04-06 09:34 * ST47 wonders why kim_ pinged
2008-04-06 09:36 < kim_> ST47, want to add #wikipedia-en-lectures @15:00 UTC to channel topic
2008-04-06 09:38 < NotACow> DEATH TO EXCESSIVE CHANNELS
2008-04-06 09:39 < NotACow> wikipedia now has a virtual lecture circuit?
2008-04-06 09:39 < Leslie_S> death to cows
2008-04-06 09:39 < NotACow> mmm, steak
2008-04-06 09:39 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-04-06 09:39 < NotACow> i had a steak last night for dinner
2008-04-06 09:39 < NotACow> it was yummerific
2008-04-06 09:40 < Leslie_S> i dont eat red meat unless its thin sliced roast beef
2008-04-06 09:40 < Leslie_S> which has a totally different taste texture and appearance, therefore not being disgusting