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2008-04-05 14:51 < ThePolecat_> I dunno, back then, four dozen maybe?
2008-04-05 14:51 < ThePolecat_> I have no idea
2008-04-05 14:51 < ThePolecat_> probably a bit less
2008-04-05 14:52 * Wikiacc knows very little about car racing
2008-04-05 14:52 < Wikiacc> hi OekelWm
2008-04-05 14:52 < OekelWm> hello
2008-04-05 14:53 * Enterprise_Cat remembers yesterday's troll fight
2008-04-05 14:55 < Wikiacc> troll fight? really, now
2008-04-05 14:55 < Lucifer_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: which one
2008-04-05 14:56 < Lucifer_Cat> the one where you acted all incompetent in kickbanning that guy?
2008-04-05 14:56 < Wikiacc> Lucifer_Cat: what did I miss, now?
2008-04-05 14:56 < Enterprise_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: No, the one with Messedrocker +m'ing the channel
2008-04-05 14:56 < Lucifer_Cat> whats +m now
2008-04-05 14:56 < Enterprise_Cat> Channel moderate so only +v's and +o's can talk
2008-04-05 14:57 < Lucifer_Cat> heh
2008-04-05 14:57 < Lucifer_Cat> why?
2008-04-05 14:57 < Enterprise_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: To give the op time to do a correct ban
2008-04-05 14:57 < bumm13> +m is rarely needed
2008-04-05 14:57 < Enterprise_Cat> I agree with bumm13, but some ops do do it when banning a troll
2008-04-05 14:58 < Messedrocker> some ops?
2008-04-05 14:58 < Lucifer_Cat> Wikiacc: other than the time that Enterprise_Cat is talkng about...
2008-04-05 14:58 < Messedrocker> more like Messedrocker
2008-04-05 14:58 < Enterprise_Cat> Messedrocker: No, most in #wikia do +m before +b
2008-04-05 14:58 < Enterprise_Cat> I just use a script command /kbo
2008-04-05 14:59 < Lucifer_Cat> g666RL person called me names.... and gave me a hard time for saying something i couldnt care less about.
2008-04-05 14:59 < Lucifer_Cat> and also, some bugger cried out the longest 'fuck you' i have ever seen...
2008-04-05 15:00 < Lucifer_Cat> and did it again after FastLizard4 bungled on a kickban
2008-04-05 15:00 < Enterprise_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: No, I bungled on a banfix, I forgot the last 9 in the hex IP
2008-04-05 15:01 < Lucifer_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: im talking bout that incompetent slimeball FastLizard4.
2008-04-05 15:01 < Lucifer_Cat> jeez not everything is about YOU
2008-04-05 15:01 < Lucifer_Cat> :P
2008-04-05 15:01 < Enterprise_Cat> heh
2008-04-05 15:01 < bumm13> meowf?
2008-04-05 15:01 < Lucifer_Cat> ok no more nick jokes for the rest of the day
2008-04-05 15:01 < Arwen> nicks?
2008-04-05 15:01 * Arwen vanquishes Lucifer_Cat
2008-04-05 15:02 < Lucifer_Cat> and from where im at, its 9 hours to go.
2008-04-05 15:02 * Enterprise_Cat burries Arwen in some SQL databases
2008-04-05 15:02 * Arwen restructures Enterprise_Cat
2008-04-05 15:02 < Lucifer_Cat> Arwen is a gay nick
2008-04-05 15:02 < Enterprise_Cat> o_O
2008-04-05 15:02 < Arwen> yes it is
2008-04-05 15:02 < Arwen> we're all gay
2008-04-05 15:02 < Enterprise_Cat> O_o
2008-04-05 15:02 < Arwen> this is one giant orgy
2008-04-05 15:02 < Arwen> I like rectal fisting
2008-04-05 15:02 < Lucifer_Cat> Arwen: you might want to use J2EE or SOA on Enterprise_Cat
2008-04-05 15:03 < Lucifer_Cat> O.o o.O
2008-04-05 15:18 < Lucifer_Cat> meow!
2008-04-05 15:25 < Messedrocker> why the 44
2008-04-05 15:26 < Bungle> hmm
2008-04-05 15:26 < Bungle> I can't PM unless registered
2008-04-05 15:26 < Bungle> and "Bungle" is registered
2008-04-05 15:26 < bumm13-44> yeah
2008-04-05 15:27 < mhisted> Hi, I'd like to upload an image of my own today
2008-04-05 15:27 < Bungle> so I am a bit pissed off now given I can't use my name and PM at the same time :/
2008-04-05 15:27 < mhisted> But it seems like the policy is to wait 4 days from the creation of a new account.
2008-04-05 15:27 < mhisted> Is that right?
2008-04-05 15:27 < bumm13> mhisted: yes
2008-04-05 15:27 < bumm13> just be patient
2008-04-05 15:27 < Bungle> rocker.. get on msnm :p
2008-04-05 15:27 < Bungle> need some advice
2008-04-05 15:27 < mhisted> And can administrators allow this?
2008-04-05 15:27 < bumm13> allow this? it's policy
2008-04-05 15:28 < bumm13> and mostly dictated by WP's tech people, not the admins
2008-04-05 15:28 < bumm13> ok then...
2008-04-05 15:29 < Mike5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Dog_Toaster
2008-04-05 15:30 < bumm13> :\
2008-04-05 15:30 < bumm13> heh
2008-04-05 15:31 < bumm13> it probably should be capitalized as "Hot dog toaster"
2008-04-05 15:31 < uberpenguin> sup bumm13
2008-04-05 15:31 < bumm13> heya uberpenguin
2008-04-05 15:32 < bumm13> not much going on here
2008-04-05 15:32 < bumm13> I had to help install a device on my mom's horribly-outdated PC :P
2008-04-05 15:32 < uberpenguin> just do what I do
2008-04-05 15:32 < Messedrocker> how horribly outdated
2008-04-05 15:32 < uberpenguin> refuse to do anything until they buy a new computer
2008-04-05 15:33 < uberpenguin> that's how I send a message to my family that I'm not their technical support :3
2008-04-05 15:33 < JunkYard> Shouldn't have to buy a new pc just for software to support it :/
2008-04-05 15:33 < bumm13> that wouldn't work in my case :P
2008-04-05 15:33 < JunkYard> That backwards Windows thinking :)
2008-04-05 15:33 < uberpenguin> also, changing your major to one that doesn't involve the word 'computer' helps IMMENSELY
2008-04-05 15:33 < bumm13> JunkYard: this computer was junk when it was new
2008-04-05 15:33 < JunkYard> Just install Gentoo, or Ubunto on her computer when she's sleeping.
2008-04-05 15:33 * bumm13 has no major :I
2008-04-05 15:33 < bumm13> haha
2008-04-05 15:33 < uberpenguin> get one
2008-04-05 15:33 < uberpenguin> and make sure it doesn't involve 'computer'
2008-04-05 15:33 < bumm13> moOOoOoOOoooOOoooOOooOoOoooOooOOOoo!
2008-04-05 15:34 < uberpenguin> I've mostly been making arrangements to move and looking for a car
2008-04-05 15:34 < NotACow> DEATH TO FRIES
2008-04-05 15:34 < JunkYard> Chances are she will not notice, but seriously, what do older people do with their computer other than browse the web and check email? They screw it up!
2008-04-05 15:34 < Lucifer_Cat> two slots for the weiners... and 2 for the buns
2008-04-05 15:34 < Lucifer_Cat> how does that work out
2008-04-05 15:34 < bumm13> she wouldn't notice only because she would make me do everything on it anyway ;p
2008-04-05 15:35 < uberpenguin> oh, and I've been trolling through the closeout sections of motorcycle gear sites to find deals :P
2008-04-05 15:35 < Messedrocker> JunkYard, they play counterstrike, duuuuh
2008-04-05 15:35 < Lucifer_Cat> NotACow: they are so yummy
2008-04-05 15:35 < JunkYard> Messedrocker, yea right.
2008-04-05 15:35 < Lucifer_Cat> esp when NotCookedInBeedOil
2008-04-05 15:35 < JunkYard> Not effeciently anyway.
2008-04-05 15:36 < JunkYard> That's all my folks do, is browse the web and check their email.. All day mind you.
2008-04-05 15:36 < JunkYard> :)
2008-04-05 15:36 < Messedrocker> i have a feeling that my dad would be able to withstand retirement
2008-04-05 15:36 < JunkYard> And they have much more computer problems than me ;)
2008-04-05 15:37 < Messedrocker> he's too young to, of course
2008-04-05 15:37 < Messedrocker> and he could not afford to
2008-04-05 15:37 < JunkYard> I find windows is for people that have other people to fix thier crap.
2008-04-05 15:37 < Messedrocker> i had windows for the longest time and i was able to fix my own crap
2008-04-05 15:37 < bumm13> uberpenguin: my mom's computer is an 8-year-old "Wal-Mart special" HP branded PC :P
2008-04-05 15:37 < JunkYard> : End Windows flaming.
2008-04-05 15:37 < Mike5> "The San José State University student entered the competitive eating scene in 2005 with a break-out performance in the deep-fried asparagus eating championship"
2008-04-05 15:38 < JunkYard> Messedrocker, Are you old?
2008-04-05 15:38 < uberpenguin> and they say the Georgia educational system produces retards...
2008-04-05 15:38 < JunkYard> :)
2008-04-05 15:38 < uberpenguin> bumm13: yeah, time to break it and claim that it needs replacing
2008-04-05 15:38 < JunkYard> I was born on ti windows, in school they tought us to use 3.1 on old apple II's
2008-04-05 15:39 < Messedrocker> no junkyard
2008-04-05 15:39 < JunkYard> Playing Carmen San Diego, and Oregon Trail in class hehe
2008-04-05 15:39 < Bungle44> grr
2008-04-05 15:39 < Messedrocker> Bungle44, how old were you when i met you?
2008-04-05 15:39 < Messedrocker> like, 13?
2008-04-05 15:39 < Messedrocker> no, that can't be
2008-04-05 15:39 < Messedrocker> it's only 7 years later
2008-04-05 15:40 < Bungle44> less than 7 years in fact
2008-04-05 15:40 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.doingitwrong.com/wrong/3110_03.jpg
2008-04-05 15:40 < Bungle44> I didn't join MGON until the tail end of 2001
2008-04-05 15:40 < Lucifer_Cat> wtf
2008-04-05 15:40 < bumm13> uberpenguin: heh, indeed
2008-04-05 15:40 < Messedrocker> Bungle44, likewise for me
2008-04-05 15:40 < Bungle44> so it must have been early 2002
2008-04-05 15:40 < bumm13> this house needs new phone wiring upstairs
2008-04-05 15:40 < bumm13> it's ancient! :x
2008-04-05 15:40 < Messedrocker> Lucifer_Cat, wait what?
2008-04-05 15:40 < Lucifer_Cat> the link
2008-04-05 15:41 < bumm13> (it dates back to about 1951 :x )
2008-04-05 15:41 < uberpenguin> JunkYard: that's pretty cool considering windows 3.x doesn't run on the 6502 series :)
2008-04-05 15:41 < bumm13> haha
2008-04-05 15:42 < JunkYard> Yea? So you're saying the Apple II's ran the 6502 microprocessor?
2008-04-05 15:42 < JunkYard> Or?
2008-04-05 15:43 < bumm13> ...
2008-04-05 15:43 < uberpenguin> JunkYard: that's exactly what I'm saying
2008-04-05 15:44 < uberpenguin> later models used a WDC 65815, which was the spirit child of the 6502
2008-04-05 15:44 < JunkYard> Nice way to call me out.
2008-04-05 15:44 < JunkYard> So what model did run 3.1?
2008-04-05 15:45 < uberpenguin> I don't think Windows ran on anything but IA-16 and IA-32 until NT 3.1
2008-04-05 15:45 < uberpenguin> which was the early 1990s
2008-04-05 15:47 < uberpenguin> fun trivia, Dave Cutler had WinNT developed on a non-x86 platform, presumably to aid porting
2008-04-05 15:47 < bumm13> :)
2008-04-05 15:48 < bumm13> early versions of NT could run on on MIPS-based systems
2008-04-05 15:48 < bumm13> (although few supported NT)
2008-04-05 15:49 < JunkYard> How about this, screw a nt, screw a ][, they as with Ford Edsall's will never be used again, and will be good for nothing but braggin about what you knew of them :)
2008-04-05 15:49 < JunkYard> :[
2008-04-05 15:49 < JunkYard> ;] I mean
2008-04-05 15:49 < bumm13> uberpenguin: two fun pics for you - http://toastytech.com/guis/win1983pcs.jpg & http://ln-s.net/1mJg (some Blogger page)
2008-04-05 15:49 < uberpenguin> *shrug* you brought it up
2008-04-05 15:50 < bumm13> (the former links from http://toastytech.com/guis/win1983.html)
2008-04-05 15:50 < uberpenguin> I seem to think that there was at least one production release of NT for MIPS
2008-04-05 15:50 < uberpenguin> but I could be mistaken
2008-04-05 15:50 < bumm13> it only ran on "commodity" MIPS systems by a certain Japanese company (I forget which one)
2008-04-05 15:51 < uberpenguin> bumm13: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QGO2hVA3P58
2008-04-05 15:51 < uberpenguin> that's better
2008-04-05 15:51 < uberpenguin> it'll make you retch, though
2008-04-05 15:51 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/presskits/25years/sunpranks.html
2008-04-05 15:51 < uberpenguin> it did for me, at least
2008-04-05 15:51 < uberpenguin> maybe I just wasn't alive through enough of the 80s to build an immunity to the fashions
2008-04-05 15:52 < bumm13> aw, you posted that link here before :)
2008-04-05 15:52 < bumm13> *ah
2008-04-05 15:52 < bumm13> uberpenguin: did you look at those links I posted?
2008-04-05 15:53 < uberpenguin> ya
2008-04-05 15:53 < bumm13> an early mockup of Windows running on (shudder) non-x86 hardware
2008-04-05 15:54 < bumm13> and Apple II CP/M
2008-04-05 15:54 < bumm13> imagine the possibilities ;)
2008-04-05 15:54 < uberpenguin> I wasn't aware that microsoft directly ripped off CP/M
2008-04-05 15:54 < bumm13> they (apparently) did
2008-04-05 15:54 < uberpenguin> I mean, DOS was a crappy knockoff of CP/M
2008-04-05 15:54 < bumm13> they sold a Z80 expansion card for the Apple II
2008-04-05 15:54 < uberpenguin> but, never that blatant...
2008-04-05 15:55 < bumm13> I just find it amusing that the potential for *native* Apple-platform Windows wasn't as far fetched as some might think
2008-04-05 15:55 < bumm13> (at least in 1983)
2008-04-05 15:55 < uberpenguin> and in 2008
2008-04-05 15:55 < bumm13> heh
2008-04-05 15:56 < bumm13> thanks to virtualization, yes
2008-04-05 15:56 < uberpenguin> it's not like there's any technical reason windows couldn't be run on a modern mac
2008-04-05 15:56 < bumm13> x86 - the great "what the hell happened?" in computer history
2008-04-05 15:56 < uberpenguin> no, natively... just would require some driver support and support for the boot firmware
2008-04-05 15:56 < bumm13> uberpenguin: true (with the Intel Macs)
2008-04-05 15:56 < bumm13> I meant even before that, though
2008-04-05 15:56 < geniice> uberpenguin I think it's been done
2008-04-05 15:57 < bumm13> (obviously things didn't go down that path, but still)
2008-04-05 15:57 < uberpenguin> I'm sure it's been done unofficially and perhaps in apple dev tests
2008-04-05 15:57 < uberpenguin> not that I care too much... I don't like windows or macs
2008-04-05 15:57 < bumm13> good chance
2008-04-05 15:58 < bumm13> what do you run then (at home)?
2008-04-05 15:58 < uberpenguin> plan 9
2008-04-05 15:58 < bumm13> just that?
2008-04-05 15:58 < uberpenguin> and OS/400
2008-04-05 15:58 < bumm13> you have z-series hardware at your residence (curious)?
2008-04-05 15:58 < uberpenguin> no, that would be OS/390 aka z/OS
2008-04-05 15:59 < bumm13> oh, oops
2008-04-05 15:59 < bumm13> i-series?
2008-04-05 15:59 < uberpenguin> OS/400 runs on the AS/400 aka iSeries aka System i aka whatever IBM calls it this week
2008-04-05 15:59 < bumm13> phew ;)
2008-04-05 15:59 < uberpenguin> yeah, I have an old AS/400
2008-04-05 15:59 < bumm13> neato
2008-04-05 15:59 < bumm13> you're adventurous ;)
2008-04-05 15:59 < ShakespeareFan00> OS/400 is Unixy is it not?
2008-04-05 16:00 < ShakespeareFan00> Or is 0S/400 some weiredy thing
2008-04-05 16:00 < uberpenguin> ShakespeareFan00: not even remotely unixy
2008-04-05 16:01 < uberpenguin> bumm13: http://mattb.alwayssleeping.com/images/dscf2857.jpg and http://mattb.alwayssleeping.com/images/dscf2860.jpg
2008-04-05 16:01 < NotACow> moo
2008-04-05 16:02 < uberpenguin> also, CTCP version will not betray me :3
2008-04-05 16:04 * toresbe got a Loveheart with "My Wee Girl" on it.
2008-04-05 16:04 * toresbe considers making a decent photo of it and submitting it as a photo for [[Urolagnia]]
2008-04-05 16:05 < bumm13> :-p
2008-04-05 16:05 < Sherurcij> Hrm, need help - isn't there a special template to make an article's references a scrollbox, when there are ~200 references?
2008-04-05 16:05 < Sherurcij> {{reflist}} just doesn't cut it
2008-04-05 16:06 < The359> yes
2008-04-05 16:06 < The359> one moment
2008-04-05 16:07 < The359> you have to throw in some HTML <div>
2008-04-05 16:07 < Sherurcij> Oddly, neither the Bush nor Bin Laden article used it, which is where I looked :)
2008-04-05 16:07 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans_fatal_accidents here's an article that uses it
2008-04-05 16:07 < The359> You can figure it out by fiddling around with the code
2008-04-05 16:08 < Fou-Lu> Why doesnt anybody change MediaWiki to autoprotect featured articles when they are on the front page?
2008-04-05 16:09 < Starnestommy> because mediawiki doesn't know what a featured article is
2008-04-05 16:10 < Fou-Lu> ... a bot then?
2008-04-05 16:10 < bumm13> "Windows NT 3.1 was released for Intel x86 PC compatible, DEC Alpha, and ARC-compliant MIPS platforms. Windows NT 3.51 added support for the PowerPC processor in 1995, specifically PReP-compliant systems such as the IBM Power Series desktops/laptops and Motorola PowerStack series"
2008-04-05 16:10 < bumm13> a bit longer than I thought :P
2008-04-05 16:10 < Sherurcij> Thanks The
2008-04-05 16:11 < geniice> can I justify replaceing http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Pickett-Hamilton_Fort%2C_Imperial_War_Museum%2C_Duxford.JPG
2008-04-05 16:11 < geniice> with http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Pickett-Hamilton_Fort_southsea.jpg
2008-04-05 16:11 < bumm13> also - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_(computer)
2008-04-05 16:11 < bumm13> (regarding early NT and MIPS)
2008-04-05 16:11 < Sherurcij> ew, yes
2008-04-05 16:11 < Sherurcij> Image:Pickett-Hamilton Fort southsea.jpg is much nicer
2008-04-05 16:12 < Sherurcij> Though can't you crop out the benches?
2008-04-05 16:12 < bumm13> but....NT never ran on SGI hardware or Apple hardware (68k or PPC)
2008-04-05 16:12 < Fou-Lu> Starnestommy: Then couldnt you just change the featured article template to protect it automatically?
2008-04-05 16:13 < ThePolecat_> Back.
2008-04-05 16:13 < Starnestommy> Fou-Lu: you would have to include the article into the main page and cascade-protect it
2008-04-05 16:13 < geniice> Sherurcij in theory yes
2008-04-05 16:13 < uberpenguin> it ran on PowerPC, but not Apple's hardware
2008-04-05 16:13 < Fou-Lu> So it's possible?
2008-04-05 16:13 < bumm13> right
2008-04-05 16:13 < uberpenguin> they could've probably ported it to Apple, but why?
2008-04-05 16:13 < bumm13> yeah, kind of pointless
2008-04-05 16:13 < Starnestommy> Fou-Lu: why should the featured article be fully protected? Doesn't that contradict the point of a wiki?
2008-04-05 16:14 < bumm13> mostly IBM POWER-based stuff and some Motorola deal
2008-04-05 16:14 < bumm13> well, PowerPC actually
2008-04-05 16:14 < bumm13> (certain workstations or servers, I'd guess)
2008-04-05 16:14 < Fou-Lu> Starnestommy: I never said fully protected
2008-04-05 16:15 < Demi> ha, "Genre: Unclassifiable"
2008-04-05 16:16 < bumm13> what's that?
2008-04-05 16:20 < zvook> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=203595125
2008-04-05 16:22 < FoeNyx> good night !
2008-04-05 16:22 < HumbertHumbert> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Please <-- Once again I wanted to find out what an expression means, only to get a god damn album spam article. Sigh.
2008-04-05 16:22 < FoeNyx> or day
2008-04-05 16:22 < HumbertHumbert> Notice the lack of a disamb. page.
2008-04-05 16:22 < quanticle> Ok, which book should I read first? Focault's Pendulum, A Splendid Exchange: How Trade Shaped the World, or Guns Germs and Steel?
2008-04-05 16:22 < HumbertHumbert> If people see there is already an article on the term, they won't make a new one.
2008-04-05 16:22 < ThePolecat_> that's what Wiktionary is for.
2008-04-05 16:22 < ThePolecat_> I agree on that last point.
2008-04-05 16:23 < NotACow> MOO!
2008-04-05 16:23 < NotACow> MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2008-04-05 16:23 < HumbertHumbert> Are all these damn album spam articles really notable?
2008-04-05 16:23 < privatemusings> yes yes....
2008-04-05 16:23 < privatemusings> moo... we know.....
2008-04-05 16:23 < NotACow> everything is notable!
2008-04-05 16:23 < HumbertHumbert> Some obscure artist made an album with the same title as a common expression...
2008-04-05 16:23 < quanticle> NotACow: Any opinions on which book I should read first?
2008-04-05 16:23 < ThePolecat_> NotACow: Except tables.
2008-04-05 16:24 < NotACow> quanticle: i haven't read any of them, therefore cannot comment
2008-04-05 16:24 < quanticle> NotACow: Ah. Your abstention is noted.
2008-04-05 16:24 < privatemusings> i've read the pendulum...
2008-04-05 16:24 < privatemusings> well worth it.
2008-04-05 16:24 < privatemusings> so I vote that!
2008-04-05 16:24 < quanticle> privatemusings: Heh. Ok.
2008-04-05 16:24 < NotACow> quanticle: i have heard good thinkgs of pendulum and GG&S. not familiar with the other one.
2008-04-05 16:24 < privatemusings> bit of a brain workout though....
2008-04-05 16:25 * NotACow is officially done trying to memorize random silly things
2008-04-05 16:25 < quanticle> I was hoping gwern would be around. His opinion on literary matters is generally quite good.
2008-04-05 16:26 < Demi> quanticle - i would read foucault's pendulum
2008-04-05 16:26 < privatemusings> the movement gathers momentum.....
2008-04-05 16:26 < privatemusings> vote umberto!
2008-04-05 16:27 < quanticle> Heh. All your votes have been noted. Umberto it is!
2008-04-05 16:27 < Demi> the only thing i have to read on my trip is rabbit, run
2008-04-05 16:27 < toresbe> Hey, wait! No quorum!
2008-04-05 16:27 < NotACow> LAUNCH UMBERTO
2008-04-05 16:27 < bumm13> Demi: heading to N. Cal. ?
2008-04-05 16:27 < Demi> i wanted to get something fun, too, but you all failed me with your lack of reading recommendations
2008-04-05 16:27 < quanticle> toresbe: You have a dissent?
2008-04-05 16:27 < Demi> bumm13 - southern california, actually, a big family vacation
2008-04-05 16:27 < toresbe> quanticle: Nope, but we don't have quorum.
2008-04-05 16:28 * Demi is getting the required music together atm
2008-04-05 16:28 < quanticle> toresbe: Quorum be damned. I've already started Focault's Pendulum.
2008-04-05 16:28 < privatemusings> umberto shall not be stopped!
2008-04-05 16:28 < toresbe> quanticle: D'oh! It'll take a while to settle down.
2008-04-05 16:28 < bumm13> Demi: ooooooo, vacation :)
2008-04-05 16:28 * privatemusings taps his heavy copy of Focault's Pendulum menacingly at toresbe.....
2008-04-05 16:28 < bumm13> which sights?
2008-04-05 16:29 < Demi> primarily disneyland
2008-04-05 16:29 * Ceiling_Cat waves to privatemusings
2008-04-05 16:29 * privatemusings waves back!
2008-04-05 16:29 < bumm13> ah ok
2008-04-05 16:29 * privatemusings thanks CC for his talk page posts too...
2008-04-05 16:30 * Mike_H cuddles privatemusings
2008-04-05 16:30 < gwern> quanticle: didn't I recommend pendulum to you? what d'you think thus far?
2008-04-05 16:30 * privatemusings notices the channel topic too!
2008-04-05 16:30 * privatemusings itches his ear at mike....
2008-04-05 16:30 < Ceiling_Cat> privatemusings - well, you certainly found a way of getting it noticed
2008-04-05 16:31 < quanticle> gwern: Well, the first six pages are quite nice :) I'll get back to you once I'm done.
2008-04-05 16:31 < privatemusings> i think some other editors had a hand in that.....
2008-04-05 16:31 < privatemusings> luckily I avoided screaming....
2008-04-05 16:31 < privatemusings> (that's a bad pun... sorry!)
2008-04-05 16:31 < gwern> heh. well obviously the first 6 pages are all that matter
2008-04-05 16:31 < quanticle> Heh.
2008-04-05 16:31 < gwern> everyone knows that; you don't judge a book by its cover but by its opening
2008-04-05 16:31 < privatemusings> i generally stop at 3 with Umberto Eco
2008-04-05 16:31 < privatemusings> then have a nap....
2008-04-05 16:33 < gwern> privatemusings: it's surprising how much of the real stuff he covers isn't in WP
2008-04-05 16:33 < privatemusings> such as?
2008-04-05 16:33 < privatemusings> (are we talking philosophically, historically, or a bit of everythingingly...)
2008-04-05 16:33 * gwern points privatemusings at [[User:ShadowyCabal/List of esoteric subjects in Foucault's Pendulum]]
2008-04-05 16:34 < gwern> note the red links. it's much improved since the list was created though
2008-04-05 16:34 < privatemusings> that's an awesome page!
2008-04-05 16:34 < privatemusings> don't let quanticle see it though.....
2008-04-05 16:35 < privatemusings> until he's finished the book!
2008-04-05 16:35 < gwern> pity the original got deleted
2008-04-05 16:35 < gwern> but at least we managed to salvage it into userspace
2008-04-05 16:35 * privatemusings presumes it's the same content....
2008-04-05 16:40 < privatemusings> the channel naps after reading some Umberto Eco.......
2008-04-05 16:41 < VegaDark> wow, anyone know this was possible? http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2008/elephant-paints-self-portrait-p1.php
2008-04-05 16:41 * ThePolecat_ listens to something by the Walkabouts
2008-04-05 16:44 < Fou-Lu> Starnestommy: So, is my idea possible? (just went to eat, sorry for the long pause)
2008-04-05 16:54 < Starnestommy> Fou-Lu: it would have to be manual or through a bot
2008-04-05 16:56 < Fou-Lu> Starnestommy: Yeah, I was thinking a bot
2008-04-05 16:56 < AzaTht> is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mater_Dei_High_School_%28New_Jersey%29 notable?
2008-04-05 16:57 < Starnestommy> some uncyclopedia admins manually semi-protect the featured article
2008-04-05 17:00 < NotACow> MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
2008-04-05 17:00 < Alkivar> proof the UK is doomed: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1022757_cool_cash_card_confusion
2008-04-05 17:02 < NotACow> PANDA PANDA
2008-04-05 17:02 < Enterprise_Cat> NUKE NUKE
2008-04-05 17:02 < mavhc> Alkivar: old
2008-04-05 17:04 < Messedrocker> that's why they should use fahrenheit
2008-04-05 17:05 < Messedrocker> only in special cases does freezing weather mean below zero
2008-04-05 17:05 < mavhc> to help the retarded?
2008-04-05 17:05 < mavhc> we shouldn't be helping them, we should be tatooing their foreheads so they can't vote
2008-04-05 17:06 < Messedrocker> and then we can force them to wear yellow stars
2008-04-05 17:06 < rw> hiho
2008-04-05 17:06 < Messedrocker> ahoy rw
2008-04-05 17:06 < str4nd> hey rw
2008-04-05 17:09 < Mike_H> Messedrocker: Was I seriously the only one who thought the actor who played Niles on The Nanny was actually English?
2008-04-05 17:09 < Messedrocker> I think you're seriously the only one in here who has ever seen "The Nanny"
2008-04-05 17:09 < Mike_H> Oh, I am not
2008-04-05 17:09 < Messedrocker> Ladies and gentlemen:
2008-04-05 17:09 < Messedrocker> If you have seen "The Nanny", please speak now.
2008-04-05 17:09 < Mike_H> me
2008-04-05 17:10 < Mike_H> and Riana
2008-04-05 17:10 < Mike_H> if she were here
2008-04-05 17:10 < mavhc> you're the only one that admits it anyway
2008-04-05 17:10 < Mike_H> :(
2008-04-05 17:11 < mavhc> admitting is the first step to a cure
2008-04-05 17:11 < Rinn> Niles isn't English?
2008-04-05 17:11 < NotACow> niles is in michigan
2008-04-05 17:11 < mavhc> crane?
2008-04-05 17:11 < Messedrocker> i thought Niles was in Illinois
2008-04-05 17:11 < Messedrocker> I thought YOU were from Niles
2008-04-05 17:11 < NotACow> Messedrocker: no, i'm from unincorporated cook county
2008-04-05 17:12 < Messedrocker> i know
2008-04-05 17:12 < Messedrocker> weren't you from niles?
2008-04-05 17:12 < Mike_H> Rinn: The actor isn't
2008-04-05 17:12 < Mike_H> the character is
2008-04-05 17:12 < NotACow> i used to live in niles, illinois
2008-04-05 17:12 < NotACow> but niles, illinois is named after niles, michigan
2008-04-05 17:12 < Messedrocker> ok then!
2008-04-05 17:12 < Rinn> S'what I meant, though I stated it vaguely.
2008-04-05 17:13 * NotACow passed her exams today :)
2008-04-05 17:13 < NotACow> the CSCE is in my blog :)
2008-04-05 17:14 < Mike_H> yay
2008-04-05 17:14 < dungodung> NBR is
2008-04-05 17:15 * Enterprise_Cat fires up huggle
2008-04-05 17:15 < NotACow> DUGGLE
2008-04-05 17:15 < Rinn> Dig-Duggle
2008-04-05 17:21 < geniice> cool I uploaded a featured image
2008-04-05 17:21 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Unseen_side_of_Mercury
2008-04-05 17:23 < Ceiling_Cat> I CAN HAZ MOAR KATZ?
2008-04-05 17:31 < cctoide> Are the image servers okay?
2008-04-05 17:32 < Enterprise_Cat> cctoide: There have been problems with them for some time now
2008-04-05 17:33 < cctoide> Ah, it's not just my connection then
2008-04-05 17:41 < geniice> cctoide I'm seeing images okey
2008-04-05 17:41 < TenPoundHammer> me too
2008-04-05 17:42 < geniice> WP:FACE is actualy loading faster than normal
2008-04-05 17:42 < TenPoundHammer> not for me
2008-04-05 17:44 < geniice> WP:FACE. IT's like pics of people if people were. lets no go there
2008-04-05 17:45 < geniice> also the majority of wikipedians can't take self portraits very well
2008-04-05 17:45 < TenPoundHammer> lol
2008-04-05 17:45 < geniice> SqueakBox is married?????
2008-04-05 17:46 < NotACow> death
2008-04-05 17:48 < The359> Is a week long enough to remove the "recently died" template?
2008-04-05 17:48 < geniice> depends
2008-04-05 17:48 < The359> on...?
2008-04-05 17:49 < geniice> how unexpected the death was
2008-04-05 17:49 < geniice> and what level of activity on the article is ongoing
2008-04-05 17:49 < The359> died in a plane crash
2008-04-05 17:49 < The359> no edits in the past few days
2008-04-05 17:49 < The359> they're small articles (two people)
2008-04-05 17:50 < geniice> eh give it another week to be on the safe side
2008-04-05 17:50 < thedj_> me guesses this is about the London crash
2008-04-05 17:51 < The359> yes
2008-04-05 17:51 < The359> two racing drivers we have articles on
2008-04-05 17:52 < Mike_H> I love WP:FACE
2008-04-05 17:52 < Mike_H> it feels good to know you're better looking than 90% of the people on that page
2008-04-05 17:52 < TenPoundHammer> lol
2008-04-05 17:52 < The359> you are?
2008-04-05 17:53 < The359> or...others can have that feeling?
2008-04-05 17:53 < Mike_H> The359: Me!
2008-04-05 17:53 < TenPoundHammer> I don't feel like I'm better looking than some people
2008-04-05 17:53 < Mike_H> (asshole)
2008-04-05 17:54 < Enterprise_Cat> Tisk tisk Mike_H
2008-04-05 17:57 < Mike_H> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Andrew_lenahan.jpg
2008-04-05 17:57 < Mike_H> okay
2008-04-05 17:57 < Mike_H> so
2008-04-05 17:57 < Mike_H> he's hot
2008-04-05 17:58 < HumbertHumbert> What are the odds of three Steves as major software tycoon figures in software?
2008-04-05 17:58 < Aqwis> but his eyes.
2008-04-05 17:58 < HumbertHumbert> Steve Ballmer, Steve Wozniak, Steve Jobs...
2008-04-05 17:58 < Enterprise_Cat> HumbertHumbert: Mid-range
2008-04-05 17:59 < Enterprise_Cat> Hello Fou-Lu
2008-04-05 17:59 < The359> heh
2008-04-05 17:59 < The359> figures
2008-04-05 17:59 < The359> as soon as I discuss removing the template from the one driver's page
2008-04-05 17:59 < The359> someone edits it
2008-04-05 17:59 < TenPoundHammer> *had to look up steve ballmer*
2008-04-05 18:02 < ijustam> ballmer loves his company
2008-04-05 18:02 < HumbertHumbert> If you had to look up Steve Ballmer, you've been living under a silicon rock.
2008-04-05 18:02 < TenPoundHammer> That I have, indeed
2008-04-05 18:03 < TenPoundHammer> *still used a Mac made in 1992 until 2001*
2008-04-05 18:03 < HumbertHumbert> Enterprise_Cat: What do you mean by "mid-range"?
2008-04-05 18:03 < Enterprise_Cat> HumbertHumbert: What do you think I meant?
2008-04-05 18:03 < HumbertHumbert> NFI.
2008-04-05 18:03 < Enterprise_Cat> HumbertHumbert: Put it in the context of the question you asked
2008-04-05 18:04 < johnasija> hi
2008-04-05 18:04 < Enterprise_Cat> hello johnasija
2008-04-05 18:04 < johnasija> i have a question about why my article was deleted
2008-04-05 18:05 < HumbertHumbert> Enterprise_Cat: Oh...
2008-04-05 18:05 < johnasija> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_ball
2008-04-05 18:05 < Enterprise_Cat> johnasija: You should probably go to #wikipedia-en-help
2008-04-05 18:05 < HumbertHumbert> johnasija: Was it about your fluffy cat?
2008-04-05 18:05 < HumbertHumbert> What is an animal ball?
2008-04-05 18:05 < johnasija> yes
2008-04-05 18:05 < HumbertHumbert> It WAS?
2008-04-05 18:05 < johnasija> yes
2008-04-05 18:05 < HumbertHumbert> ...
2008-04-05 18:05 < The359> (WP:CSD#G1 content was: '{{db-g1}}ANIMAL BALL IS THE BEST GAME IN THE WORLD!!!!Water Polo without rules.Jason + Karl = the best animal ball players in the world. YUP!Ha...')
2008-04-05 18:06 < The359> Seems pretty self explanitory as to why it was deleted
2008-04-05 18:06 < HumbertHumbert> So johnasija not only is a troll, but a lying troll.
2008-04-05 18:06 < SWATJester> "The game Animal ball was invented by boy scout troop 261 the exact date of conception is unknown and when modern rules where first used is largely guess work "
2008-04-05 18:06 < SWATJester> "Animal Ball is a new sport based on the sport of [[Dodgeball]] how ever , while similar the games are different enough that Animal ball can be considered more than just a variant.
2008-04-05 18:06 < Gracenotes> we need more scholarly coverage of Animal Ball
2008-04-05 18:06 < johnasija> i didnt put the whole bit about jason + karal there
2008-04-05 18:06 < The359> it was deleted because your game isn't worth writing about
2008-04-05 18:07 < SWATJester> Hmm "you can find other animal players by going to #animalball on the efnet irc network"
2008-04-05 18:07 < johnasija> and i never said anything about watter polo
2008-04-05 18:07 < The359> heh
2008-04-05 18:07 < Enterprise_Cat> johnasija: Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CSD conditions G1, A1, A7
2008-04-05 18:07 < Gracenotes> surely no scientific journals cover the subject Animal Ball?
2008-04-05 18:07 < johnasija> but you have me oneverything else
2008-04-05 18:07 < SWATJester> My version of animalball is when I hogtie my cat and punt her into the ceiling fan.
2008-04-05 18:07 < Enterprise_Cat> johnasija: Please review the page I just linked to
2008-04-05 18:07 < The359> Your made up game isn't worth including on an Encyclopedia, johnasija
2008-04-05 18:08 < Enterprise_Cat> johnasija: And no, we don't have articles about everything
2008-04-05 18:08 < The359> that's basically the jist of it
2008-04-05 18:08 < johnasija> oh ok
2008-04-05 18:10 < johnasija> well thank you have a good day
2008-04-05 18:10 < johnasija> bye
2008-04-05 18:12 < ThePolecat_> HANGOVERZ - I GETZ IT
2008-04-05 18:12 * ThePolecat_ should stop drinking
2008-04-05 18:13 < The359> My tylenol, let me show you it
2008-04-05 18:13 < ThePolecat_> only warm beer left anywho
2008-04-05 18:13 < ThePolecat_> u gots a tylenol!
2008-04-05 18:13 < ThePolecat_> I had a tylenol and u eated it.
2008-04-05 18:14 < Enterprise_Cat> ThePolecat_: Behave yourself pl0x
2008-04-05 18:14 * ThePolecat_ behaves self and others
2008-04-05 18:19 < nixeagle> hey does: http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubrovnik <<< look broken to anyone else?
2008-04-05 18:20 < TenPoundHammer> yeah, the template's goofed up
2008-04-05 18:21 < nixeagle> :S well I don't speak that language... I found the page only by doing counter spam work...
2008-04-05 18:21 < nixeagle> and their channel has a sum total of chanserv in it
2008-04-05 18:21 < nixeagle> #wikipedia-sl
2008-04-05 18:24 < Pilotguy> YAR!
2008-04-05 18:25 < TenPoundHammer> huh?
2008-04-05 18:36 < geniice> fuggin GFDL
2008-04-05 18:57 < bumm13> hiya ggreer
2008-04-05 18:57 < Messedrocker> bumm13, are you aware of the dangers posed by evil trees?
2008-04-05 18:57 < bumm13> nope
2008-04-05 18:58 < Messedrocker> evil trees have projectile noses on their ugly faces
2008-04-05 18:58 < Messedrocker> and they drop apples on you
2008-04-05 18:58 < ggreer> yo
2008-04-05 18:58 < Enterprise_Cat> o_O
2008-04-05 18:59 * Enterprise_Cat wonders if sssssss is a snake
2008-04-05 18:59 < Messedrocker> Enterprise_Cat, watch out for evil trees!
2008-04-05 18:59 < Enterprise_Cat> STFU Messedrocker
2008-04-05 19:01 < X2theZ> what means stfu
2008-04-05 19:01 < bumm13> that's not very nice
2008-04-05 19:02 < X2theZ> explain me
2008-04-05 19:02 < Messedrocker> "stfu" means "shut the fuck up"
2008-04-05 19:02 < X2theZ> that's nice
2008-04-05 19:02 < Enterprise_Cat> Messedrocker: I don't want to be pinged about evil trees, who do you think burned down the school accross the street?
2008-04-05 19:03 < X2theZ> evil trees like in lord of the rings?
2008-04-05 19:03 < Messedrocker> no, like in Kirby Super Star
2008-04-05 19:03 < Enterprise_Cat> hehe
2008-04-05 19:04 < X2theZ> what's that, porn
2008-04-05 19:04 < X2theZ> ?
2008-04-05 19:04 < Enterprise_Cat> "Photon torpedo: isn't that the universal greeting when communications are down?" "I think it's the universal greeting when you don't like someone." - William Riker and Geordi La Forge, Star Trek: Insurrection
2008-04-05 19:04 < X2theZ> you people watched to much tv....
2008-04-05 19:05 < Enterprise_Cat> X2theZ: Two things, what are you talking about, and secondly, Star Trek: Insurrectoin is a movie
2008-04-05 19:05 < Enterprise_Cat> *Insurrection
2008-04-05 19:05 < X2theZ> and isn't broadcasted on tv?
2008-04-05 19:05 < Enterprise_Cat> X2theZ: The short version
2008-04-05 19:06 < Enterprise_Cat> The really bad shortened version is
2008-04-05 19:06 < X2theZ> well, then I was right.... you watched too much on Star Trek
2008-04-05 19:06 < TenPoundHammer> lol
2008-04-05 19:06 < Enterprise_Cat> X2theZ: You can never watch too much sci-fi
2008-04-05 19:06 < X2theZ> mlol, if you're geek....
2008-04-05 19:06 < Enterprise_Cat> X2theZ: If you aren't a geek, then why are you here?
2008-04-05 19:07 < X2theZ> I'm a cool geek
2008-04-05 19:07 < Enterprise_Cat> X2theZ: No such thing
2008-04-05 19:07 < X2theZ> I mix the coolness with the geekness
2008-04-05 19:07 < Enterprise_Cat> Then you aren't a true geek
2008-04-05 19:07 < X2theZ> :( you're mean
2008-04-05 19:07 < Mike5> "One big misconception is that marijuana is consumed only by means of smoking it. The Cannabis Cup is considered to be an all fair game, which means any way of getting high or "stoned" on marijuana, is acceptable at the Cup."
2008-04-05 19:07 < Enterprise_Cat> Mike5: lol
2008-04-05 19:10 < Mike5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterculture#Russian.2FSoviet_counterculture
2008-04-05 19:10 < Enterprise_Cat> o_O
2008-04-05 19:14 < Warpath> Wile_E_Coyote, Where is road-runner? :P
2008-04-05 19:14 < NoPegs> Beep! Beep!
2008-04-05 19:16 < Warpath> ;DD
2008-04-05 19:17 * FastLizard4|away is still watching you, Warpath, even though he is technically away
2008-04-05 19:19 < felixtehcat> Poll: Hours spent editing a week. Results get to be in a real college term paper!
2008-04-05 19:20 < Lucifer_Cat> what did Warpath DO?
2008-04-05 19:20 < felixtehcat> Participation is much appreciated,thanks.
2008-04-05 19:20 < Lucifer_Cat> felixtehcat: you are doing it wrong.
2008-04-05 19:21 < Lucifer_Cat> it should be Felix_Cat or TheFelix_Cat
2008-04-05 19:22 < felixtehcat> Eh? Is this stuff published somewhere?
2008-04-05 19:22 < felixtehcat> oh
2008-04-05 19:22 < ThePolecat_> In Soviet Russia, culture counters you.
2008-04-05 19:22 < felixtehcat> no im not like that
2008-04-05 19:22 < felixtehcat> too many _cats
2008-04-05 19:22 < Lucifer_Cat> heh heh heh
2008-04-05 19:23 < Lucifer_Cat> there are never enough _cats
2008-04-05 19:23 < Warpath> all cats go to hell ;)
2008-04-05 19:23 < Warpath> see you there :P
2008-04-05 19:23 < felixtehcat> hmm. donde estan wikipedia polls
2008-04-05 19:23 < TenPoundHammer> there are never enough otters either
2008-04-05 19:24 * ThePolecat_ is always the type of mustelid uncalled for
2008-04-05 19:24 < ThePolecat_> it seems
2008-04-05 19:24 < Lucifer_Cat> i was gonna mention you ThePolecat_
2008-04-05 19:24 < TenPoundHammer> lol
2008-04-05 19:24 < X2theZ> what language is that
2008-04-05 19:24 < TenPoundHammer> yoda speak, I think it is
2008-04-05 19:24 < felixtehcat> spanglish
2008-04-05 19:24 * ThePolecat_ speaks fluent incomprehensible gibberish
2008-04-05 19:25 < TenPoundHammer> lol
2008-04-05 19:25 < TenPoundHammer> I speak nonsense well
2008-04-05 19:25 < ThePolecat_> mine's a bit rusty
2008-04-05 19:25 < X2theZ> how many cats around here?
2008-04-05 19:25 < TenPoundHammer> yakka foob mog. grug pubbawup zink wattoom gazork. chumble spuzz.
2008-04-05 19:25 < X2theZ> why is everyone crazy about cats?
2008-04-05 19:25 < X2theZ> tenpoundhammer that's gibberigsh allright....
2008-04-05 19:25 * ThePolecat_ just followed the cool kids
2008-04-05 19:26 < gwern> X2theZ: brain parasites
2008-04-05 19:26 < TenPoundHammer> lol
2008-04-05 19:26 < ThePolecat_> Without giving up my Weasel-nature
2008-04-05 19:26 < X2theZ> I'm allergic to cats
2008-04-05 19:26 < X2theZ> but I'm also sado-masochistic, and I love them
2008-04-05 19:27 < ThePolecat_> wow, Germany's oldest man is now a 20th century-born guy
2008-04-05 19:27 < ThePolecat_> Sad.
2008-04-05 19:27 < TenPoundHammer> lol
2008-04-05 19:27 < ThePolecat_> But he's also the last Austro-Hungarian/German WWI veteran
2008-04-05 19:27 < X2theZ> is he dead?
2008-04-05 19:28 < X2theZ> oldest man living or already dead?
2008-04-05 19:28 < ThePolecat_> He's alive
2008-04-05 19:28 < X2theZ> Happy Birtday to him
2008-04-05 19:28 < ThePolecat_> it isn't his birthday
2008-04-05 19:28 < X2theZ> it doesn't matter....
2008-04-05 19:28 < X2theZ> the gesture counts....
2008-04-05 19:28 < ThePolecat_> it's just that his predecessor in this title recently died
2008-04-05 19:28 < ThePolecat_> heh, yea
2008-04-05 19:29 < ThePolecat_> the oldest person in the world is also closing in on 1900
2008-04-05 19:29 < ThePolecat_> 1893 right now
2008-04-05 19:29 < X2theZ> he died of oldness? or he got hit by a car or something?
2008-04-05 19:29 < ThePolecat_> He's ALIVE
2008-04-05 19:29 < ThePolecat_> as I said.
2008-04-05 19:29 < X2theZ> no no
2008-04-05 19:29 < X2theZ> the other one
2008-04-05 19:29 < ThePolecat_> oh, the other guy
2008-04-05 19:29 < NotACow> EEEETZ ALIIIIIIVE
2008-04-05 19:29 < ThePolecat_> natural causes.
2008-04-05 19:30 < ThePolecat_> rrrrrrrrrrrrunnnnnnnnnnn
2008-04-05 19:30 < TenPoundHammer> g2g
2008-04-05 19:30 < X2theZ> like being crushed by a trash compactor
2008-04-05 19:30 < X2theZ> yay...

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