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2008-04-04 15:50 < Demi> they mean one from nice
2008-04-04 15:51 < ThePolecat> Yea, beware of Toulon lambs.
2008-04-04 15:51 < ThePolecat> Canned, err, Cannes lambs are no good either
2008-04-04 15:51 * Demi tries desperately to think of a Lyons / lambs joke
2008-04-04 15:51 < ThePolecat> hehe
2008-04-04 15:52 < ThePolecat> Nice is fine, don't know about the local sheep.
2008-04-04 15:52 < ThePolecat> only usable city on the Cote if you ask me.
2008-04-04 15:52 < Demi> vichy collamborators should be cooked
2008-04-04 15:53 < ThePolecat> With mint sauce, just to piss them off.
2008-04-04 15:53 < Demi> i've read the dream of scipio by iain pears, so i know a little something about vichy france
2008-04-04 15:53 < ThePolecat> Oh, got the pun (pronounce: peng)
2008-04-04 15:54 < ThePolecat> if Vichy France isn't a reason to stop being a Catholic, I don't know what is.
2008-04-04 15:54 < ThePolecat> or Austrofascism for that matter
2008-04-04 15:55 < Demi> most catholics don't stop being catholics even though they don't agree with and don't follow the church
2008-04-04 15:55 < ThePolecat> yea, and it even costs money.
2008-04-04 15:57 < ThePolecat> my family isn't very religious, but they'd pick Lutheran if they had to. It's hard to classify mainstream protestantism in the Anglo-American system
2008-04-04 15:57 < bumm13> many Germans probably would
2008-04-04 15:57 < Demi> my wife was raised lutheran
2008-04-04 15:58 < ThePolecat> my mom was raised a Catholic though
2008-04-04 15:58 < bumm13> American Lutheranism is quite different, I'd imagine (culturally)
2008-04-04 15:58 < ThePolecat> in the bishopric of Trier
2008-04-04 15:58 < Demi> probably
2008-04-04 15:58 < ThePolecat> I don't know much about it
2008-04-04 15:58 < bumm13> Missouri has a lot of Lutherans and that's part of the Bible Belt
2008-04-04 15:59 < ThePolecat> it's mostly a northern Europe thing I guess
2008-04-04 15:59 < Demi> there are practically no monolithic denominations at that organizational level, there are at least two american lutheran councils
2008-04-04 15:59 < ThePolecat> so the northern Midwest is an obvious target
2008-04-04 15:59 < Demi> or whatever they call them
2008-04-04 15:59 < ThePolecat> yea, pretty hard to bring them together
2008-04-04 15:59 < Demi> i don't know enough about religion in the u.s. to even tell the wacked-out cults from the regular religions, by name
2008-04-04 16:00 < ThePolecat> I think the Protestants here are scripturally too fuzzy for most American churches.
2008-04-04 16:00 < Demi> i'm like, "united church of god", hm, so... are you weirdos or regular?
2008-04-04 16:00 < ThePolecat> too little distinction
2008-04-04 16:00 < ThePolecat> haha
2008-04-04 16:00 < ThePolecat> many churches are like domain squatters
2008-04-04 16:01 < ThePolecat> they use things like "Church of Jesus"
2008-04-04 16:02 < Demi> i'll never forget the murderous schism between "Jesus' Hizzouse" and "Jesus's Hizzouse"
2008-04-04 16:02 < ThePolecat> the fights between certain Baptist splinters are hilarious.
2008-04-04 16:03 < Demi> i know someone who was left behind when their church changed, clinging to a splinter, because the church became too mainstream
2008-04-04 16:03 < Demi> which i can kind of understand
2008-04-04 16:03 < Demi> i mean, mainstream evangelicalism isn't what you're looking for in a whacked-out cult
2008-04-04 16:04 < ThePolecat> Yea, I can understand when people resist accepting ecumenical thought as well.
2008-04-04 16:04 < ThePolecat> especially in Catholicism
2008-04-04 16:04 < ThePolecat> because that's what they signed up for
2008-04-04 16:05 < Demi> i don't want anyone with a vagina giving me advice about god
2008-04-04 16:05 < Demi> but i'll happily use birth control, because, *come on*
2008-04-04 16:05 < ThePolecat> Tridentine Mass!
2008-04-04 16:06 < Demi> with actual tridents
2008-04-04 16:06 < nsh_> what's the tag for "this article talks about a fictional/hypothetical object in a misleadingly factual style"?
2008-04-04 16:06 < Cyrius> the prostate is obviously the source of all true godly wisdom
2008-04-04 16:06 < Demi> not the gum, like the lutherans use
2008-04-04 16:06 < ThePolecat> that would add some zest.
2008-04-04 16:06 < Demi> Cyrius - that's why i'm constantly stimulating it, hoping for enlightenment.
2008-04-04 16:06 < Cyrius> nsh-: I know what you're talking about but can't remember
2008-04-04 16:06 < Demi> nsh - {{fiction}} ?
2008-04-04 16:06 < ThePolecat> Oh, looking for the calling inside.
2008-04-04 16:06 < ThePolecat> Brb
2008-04-04 16:07 < nsh> i think would get pissed if i put {{fiction}} on [[Dark energy]]
2008-04-04 16:07 < Cyrius> {{in-universe}} would be funny =)
2008-04-04 16:07 * nsh smiles
2008-04-04 16:15 < kingturtle> gmorning
2008-04-04 16:15 < bumm13> hiya kingturtle
2008-04-04 16:18 < ThePolecat> "The term "Tridentine" is derived from Tridentinus, the Latin adjective that means "related to the city of Trent, Italy""
2008-04-04 16:18 < ThePolecat> How disappointing
2008-04-04 16:24 < Leslie_S> NotACow?
2008-04-04 16:25 < Leslie_S> if i wanted to make margarita jello shots, would it work to put triple sec and tequila in lime jello? :o
2008-04-04 16:28 < fruitbag> Hey, guys
2008-04-04 16:29 < fruitbag> What is the sociology behind certain clusters or groups of people wearing the same bag, for example.
2008-04-04 16:29 < fruitbag> At school, I recall clusters of kids who wore the same bag.
2008-04-04 16:29 < fruitbag> And I recall some other clusters of girls who wore the same shoes and stripey shirts.
2008-04-04 16:29 < Rinn> Like potato sacks?
2008-04-04 16:29 < fruitbag> Well, this is psychologically nad sociologically interesting.
2008-04-04 16:29 < fruitbag> I ponder the psychological reasons behind this.
2008-04-04 16:30 < Rinn> There might've been a sack race that day.
2008-04-04 16:30 < fruitbag> Does it have something to do with being like your hero?
2008-04-04 16:30 < fruitbag> Does it have something to do with self-esteem at all?
2008-04-04 16:30 < fruitbag> I'm not cool, but the other kid is, so I'll dress like him.
2008-04-04 16:30 < Rinn> Maybe they wanted to look like a team in the sack race.
2008-04-04 16:31 < Demi> who wears bags?
2008-04-04 16:31 < Rinn> People who are about to enter sack races.
2008-04-04 16:31 < Demi> also very ugly people
2008-04-04 16:31 < Leslie_S> ...
2008-04-04 16:31 < Rinn> Maybe it was a school for the very ugly?
2008-04-04 16:31 < Leslie_S> this is so dumb
2008-04-04 16:32 < Demi> Welcome to ouR VEry Ugly Cranival, Sack Race's here --->
2008-04-04 16:32 < fruitbag> Well, guys, it is a sociological, anthropological and psychologically valid question.
2008-04-04 16:32 < fruitbag> You guys are trolling.
2008-04-04 16:32 < fruitbag> I'm not going to waste my time here.
2008-04-04 16:32 < Rinn> I am!
2008-04-04 16:32 < fruitbag> If you're not prepared to have an intelligent conversation, then I won't waste my time.
2008-04-04 16:33 < Bungle> what can I do about an idiot who keeps changing a parameter on a page using the fulldate template?
2008-04-04 16:33 < fruitbag> I came here to have a genuine discussion.
2008-04-04 16:33 < Bungle> really pissing me off
2008-04-04 16:33 < Demi> well, you ignored my question. i really don't know what you mean by wearing a bag.
2008-04-04 16:33 < Leslie_S> a book bag
2008-04-04 16:33 < Leslie_S> duhhhh
2008-04-04 16:33 < Rinn> Fashion statement by grocery-store baggers?
2008-04-04 16:33 < Demi> where i come from "wearing a bag" means "using a condom" and as far as i know, i've never been influenced by someone else's choice of condom.
2008-04-04 16:33 < fruitbag> Leslie_S: well, it is an interesting sociological pattern when clusters of people wear the same bag or shoes.
2008-04-04 16:34 < fruitbag> ...particularly in a school settings.
2008-04-04 16:34 < Rinn> Whatever happened to backpacks?
2008-04-04 16:34 < fruitbag> I know of a particular bag that is popular among kids.
2008-04-04 16:34 < fruitbag> They are small bags.
2008-04-04 16:34 < Demi> lifestyles, then?
2008-04-04 16:34 < Rinn> I like backpacks. Backpacks are cool.
2008-04-04 16:35 < Rinn> You can fill all the little pockets with useless things and then walk around like you're going to do something exciting, because exciting people wear backpacks.
2008-04-04 16:35 * Demi envies Rinn's fun-loving, on-the-go lifestyle
2008-04-04 16:35 < Rinn> You can also put a parachute in them! That's always useful.
2008-04-04 16:37 * Demi pushes Rinn out of the plane. Unfortunately, it's a "laptop" day.
2008-04-04 16:37 < Gangleri2007> now, it works
2008-04-04 16:37 * Rinn falls and dies
2008-04-04 16:37 < Gangleri2007> hi, do you read me?
2008-04-04 16:38 < Rinn> I haven't known you long enough.
2008-04-04 16:38 < Gangleri2007> hey, it works, I was having problems getting here
2008-04-04 16:39 < fruitbag> Guys, how does this happen?
2008-04-04 16:39 < fruitbag> I mean, what makes a thing `cool'?
2008-04-04 16:39 < fruitbag> Is it the the first person's status wearing the thing?
2008-04-04 16:39 < fruitbag> This is a sociologically interesting question.
2008-04-04 16:39 < fruitbag> One person adopts a style, and others copy him/her.
2008-04-04 16:39 < Mike_H> Then, she declared that there were 27 blocks, and �g27 letters in the alphabet.�h �gThere are 26 letters in the alphabet,�h Ryan said, and she looked at him like he�fd just declared the world was flat. She counted the letters to prove that he was wrong, and included �gand Z�h as two.
2008-04-04 16:39 < fruitbag> But why?
2008-04-04 16:39 < nsh> i'll tell you what doesn't make you cool
2008-04-04 16:39 < Mike_H> Oh, poor Big Brother.
2008-04-04 16:40 < fruitbag> What is it about that person that people want to imitate?
2008-04-04 16:40 < nsh> what doesn't make you cool is using `' quotes
2008-04-04 16:40 < fruitbag> Is it his status?
2008-04-04 16:40 < bumm13> :#
2008-04-04 16:40 < nsh> jesus fucking crist
2008-04-04 16:40 < fruitbag> Is it the style itself?
2008-04-04 16:40 < fruitbag> What is it, guys?
2008-04-04 16:40 < Gangleri2007> fruitbag: Why care?
2008-04-04 16:40 < Mike_H> nsh: What?
2008-04-04 16:40 < Rinn> Well, typically the absence of heat will make something cool.
2008-04-04 16:40 < fruitbag> Gangleri2007: because it's an academically legitimate question.
2008-04-04 16:40 < fruitbag> It would make for a good sociology paper.
2008-04-04 16:41 < nsh> Mike_H: `this' looks fucking stupid
2008-04-04 16:41 < Mike_H> nsh: Who did that?
2008-04-04 16:41 < nsh> and not just stupid, stupid and affected
2008-04-04 16:41 < nsh> fruitbag
2008-04-04 16:41 < Mike_H> oh
2008-04-04 16:41 < Rinn> The bag of fruit.
2008-04-04 16:41 < Rinn> Well, you've got to get some use out of ` somehow.
2008-04-04 16:42 < fruitbag> Guys, what reslots in the decline of a subculture?
2008-04-04 16:42 < fruitbag> results *
2008-04-04 16:42 < fruitbag> What are the factors associated with the decline of a subculture?
2008-04-04 16:42 < Rinn> Lots of deaths.
2008-04-04 16:42 < fruitbag> OMG
2008-04-04 16:42 < Rinn> Dead people.
2008-04-04 16:42 < fruitbag> Bye, guys
2008-04-04 16:42 < fruitbag> Rinn: either you're stupid or just trolling
2008-04-04 16:42 < Rinn> Both!
2008-04-04 16:43 < fruitbag> Clearly, no-one wants to have an inteligent discussion
2008-04-04 16:43 < bumm13> how would he know?
2008-04-04 16:44 < Demi> well, that wasn't cool
2008-04-04 16:47 < bumm13> nope
2008-04-04 16:47 < bumm13> oh well
2008-04-04 17:07 < Wikiacc> hi Ryan_Taylor, Rinn
2008-04-04 17:08 * Rinn waves
2008-04-04 17:14 < geniice> !USAian
2008-04-04 17:15 < The359> ?
2008-04-04 17:15 < geniice> need someone to aquire this pic
2008-04-04 17:15 < geniice> http://www.shorpy.com/node/3131?size=_original
2008-04-04 17:18 < The359> you mean purchase it?
2008-04-04 17:18 < geniice> no copy it to wikipedia
2008-04-04 17:19 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR KATZ?
2008-04-04 17:19 < bumm13> =^o.o^=
2008-04-04 17:19 < Cyrius> 1862
2008-04-04 17:19 < Cyrius> public domain
2008-04-04 17:20 < Cyrius> go bridgeman v corel on their asses =)
2008-04-04 17:21 < geniice> Cyrius I can't
2008-04-04 17:25 < Ceiling_Cat> Messedrocker! Not_the_NSA!
2008-04-04 17:25 < Not_the_NSA> Ceiling_Cat: !
2008-04-04 17:25 * Ceiling_Cat puts cat suits on both of them
2008-04-04 17:28 < Ceiling_Cat> Quiet in here tonight
2008-04-04 17:29 < Cream> Hello
2008-04-04 17:30 < g666RL> sssssssst
2008-04-04 17:31 < g666RL> most ppl are chatting Irl
2008-04-04 17:31 < Cream> How was your day?
2008-04-04 17:32 < g666RL> idk
2008-04-04 17:32 < Ceiling_Cat> CREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-04-04 17:32 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles Cream
2008-04-04 17:32 * Cream facehuggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-04 17:33 * Working_Cat applies Cream
2008-04-04 17:33 * Cream applies Working_Cat
2008-04-04 17:33 < g666RL> get a room?
2008-04-04 17:33 * Working_Cat huggles g666RL ... even activists are welcome
2008-04-04 17:33 < g666RL> the word activist is offensive
2008-04-04 17:33 * Ceiling_Cat surprise huggles g666RL
2008-04-04 17:33 * Working_Cat shaves Ceiling_Cat bald
2008-04-04 17:33 < Working_Cat> bloody cat
2008-04-04 17:34 * Ceiling_Cat is a bald pussy now
2008-04-04 17:34 < Working_Cat> welcome to the barrel Ceiling_Cat
2008-04-04 17:34 * Ceiling_Cat hops in the bald pussy barrel with Working_Cat and Enterprise_Cat
2008-04-04 17:34 < Cream> Ceiling_Cat, i made a awesome deal today
2008-04-04 17:34 < Ceiling_Cat> Cream - go on
2008-04-04 17:34 < Working_Cat> g666RL: wanna join?
2008-04-04 17:34 < Cream> I went to the Queen Elizabeth Hotel wich is one of the priciest hotels in Montréal
2008-04-04 17:35 < g666RL> The word activist implies that if you feel strongly about poor people, there must be something wrong with you ??
2008-04-04 17:35 < Cream> this year, they,re celebrating their 50th anniversary
2008-04-04 17:35 < Cream> as for celebration, they're literally giving away rooms
2008-04-04 17:35 < bumm13> damn
2008-04-04 17:35 < Cream> the only price for them was 50$
2008-04-04 17:35 < Working_Cat> g666RL: in this case, the word activist implies that you are a variant of McArthur
2008-04-04 17:36 < g666RL> poor ppl = less fortunate ppl
2008-04-04 17:36 < Cream> I reserved a room that's worth 550$ in high season
2008-04-04 17:36 < g666RL> r u gonna trash the room?
2008-04-04 17:36 * bumm13 imagines the price of their room service
2008-04-04 17:37 < g666RL> ok ill bite: mcarthur?
2008-04-04 17:37 < Cream> g666RL, dunno
2008-04-04 17:37 < Cream> lol
2008-04-04 17:37 < Cream> but hey
2008-04-04 17:37 < Working_Cat> g666RL: yeah he is. go protest that.
2008-04-04 17:38 < Cream> I'm checking what's in the room
2008-04-04 17:38 < Working_Cat> g666RL: some us congressman who 'saw' communists
2008-04-04 17:38 < g666RL> ah yes, working cat. because i take offense at injustice, i must protest everything?
2008-04-04 17:38 < Cream> access to breakfeast at the Beaver Club
2008-04-04 17:39 < g666RL> thats McCarthy, you nincompoop
2008-04-04 17:39 < g666RL> Working_Cat: go blame your theacher
2008-04-04 17:39 < g666RL> yer history teacher
2008-04-04 17:39 < Working_Cat> my teacher was never supposed to teach me anything about US history
2008-04-04 17:39 < g666RL> ok so i can blame you
2008-04-04 17:40 < Working_Cat> except for a chapter on US independence and its involvement in WWs
2008-04-04 17:40 < Messedrocker> Working_Cat, where are you from
2008-04-04 17:40 < g666RL> i wasn't really blaming your teacher, it was sarcasm but you didn't get it
2008-04-04 17:40 < Working_Cat> g666RL: you took offence at me asking you what the359 did... and some offhanded half joking statement i made.
2008-04-04 17:41 < Working_Cat> g666RL: apparently you arent very good at getting sarcasm either.
2008-04-04 17:41 < Working_Cat> or the point for that matter.
2008-04-04 17:41 < bumm13> heh, Beaver Club
2008-04-04 17:41 < Working_Cat> Messedrocker: somewhere around.
2008-04-04 17:41 < Messedrocker> bumm13, is Beaver Club as kinky as it sounds?
2008-04-04 17:41 < g666RL> no, i took offence at you making fun of the concept of caring about something other than yourself
2008-04-04 17:41 < bumm13> how should I know?
2008-04-04 17:42 < bumm13> actually, Oregon is rather "beaver-riffic" :x
2008-04-04 17:42 < Working_Cat> i was making fun of your tendency to take offence even when none was offered.
2008-04-04 17:42 < g666RL> Working_Cat: you seem rather proud of you egotism
2008-04-04 17:42 < bumm13> Oregon State University's mascot is the beaver for sports
2008-04-04 17:42 < bumm13> and Portland's AAA baseball team is the Beavers
2008-04-04 17:42 < Working_Cat> g666RL: thats the point of it.
2008-04-04 17:42 < Rinn> Is that like stealing offense?
2008-04-04 17:42 < g666RL> which is cool if you wanna be like that
2008-04-04 17:42 < bumm13> (Oregon's nickname is The Beaver State)
2008-04-04 17:42 < Rinn> Can people be prosecuted for stealing offense?
2008-04-04 17:43 < bumm13> I'm in Washington (WA) but not far from Oregon
2008-04-04 17:43 < Working_Cat> Rinn: atleast should be 'corrected'
2008-04-04 17:43 < g666RL> bumm13: because men perform lots of oral sex on women ;)
2008-04-04 17:43 * Working_Cat wonders how long it will be before g666RL pounces on that statement and takes it the wrong way.
2008-04-04 17:43 < denelson83> bumm13: Vancouver, WA?
2008-04-04 17:43 < bumm13> not quite but close enough
2008-04-04 17:44 * Rinn puts Working_Cat and g666RL in a gladiator pit
2008-04-04 17:44 < bumm13> a bit north
2008-04-04 17:44 < denelson83> Longview, WA?
2008-04-04 17:44 < bumm13> somewhere in those vicinities :)
2008-04-04 17:44 < Rinn> Shortview is cooler.
2008-04-04 17:44 < Working_Cat> Rinn... NOOOO.... she'll protest the lifeo out of me.
2008-04-04 17:44 < bumm13> the land of asploding volcanoes
2008-04-04 17:44 < geniice> london meetup comeing up
2008-04-04 17:44 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London_8
2008-04-04 17:44 < Working_Cat> Rinn: you have no idea how it started.
2008-04-04 17:44 < bumm13> and hunts for mysterious hijackers with parachutes
2008-04-04 17:45 < g666RL> Working_Cat: if you think it's funny being selfish, go right ahead
2008-04-04 17:45 < Rinn> Actually, I think I was there.
2008-04-04 17:45 < Working_Cat> i was being a good listener... and she just ... well... it hurts to think of it.
2008-04-04 17:45 < g666RL> ooooh poor boy
2008-04-04 17:45 < g666RL> you want my hanky
2008-04-04 17:46 < Working_Cat> Rinn: can i accuse g666RL of sexism now?
2008-04-04 17:46 < Rinn> Accuse all you want, I'm going to eat shrimp.
2008-04-04 17:46 * The359 seems to recall g666RL being previously banned from here
2008-04-04 17:47 < Working_Cat> g666RL: good. hes here. i dont think you need a surrogate anymore. so off my back.
2008-04-04 17:47 < g666RL> Working_Cat: it's nice to see how you want to making fun of everything that looks like unselfishnes, fighting injustice, or having an opinion about anything
2008-04-04 17:47 < The359> why is my name coming up?
2008-04-04 17:48 < Working_Cat> g666RL: for the records, i have an opinion on everything.
2008-04-04 17:48 < Messedrocker> Working_Cat, what is your opinion on giving transsexual males abortions?
2008-04-04 17:48 < g666RL> Working_Cat: yah your opinion is, don't mess with the white folks as long as they don't discriminate against you
2008-04-04 17:48 < Working_Cat> The359: she said u were a filthy racist, and i asked why, and so she called me a filthy racist. and came within inches of calling me Himmler
2008-04-04 17:49 < The359> When did she call me a racist?
2008-04-04 17:49 < g666RL> ooooooh liar
2008-04-04 17:49 * The359 doesn't see it
2008-04-04 17:49 < Working_Cat> g666RL: i told you that was not my opinion.
2008-04-04 17:49 < Working_Cat> The359: in the morning
2008-04-04 17:49 * The359 also hasn't been talking in here much today, so I'm confused
2008-04-04 17:49 < Working_Cat> Messedrocker: its his/her choice
2008-04-04 17:49 < Messedrocker> The proper gender pronoun would be "his"
2008-04-04 17:50 < g666RL> where did i call you a racist Working_Cat
2008-04-04 17:50 < g666RL> or when
2008-04-04 17:50 < The359> when the fuck did I get involved in this?
2008-04-04 17:50 < The359> I haven't said anything in 12 hours in here
2008-04-04 17:50 < The359> over 12 hours
2008-04-04 17:51 < FastLizard4> The359: [citation needed]
2008-04-04 17:51 < Working_Cat> you called me a typical white male and proceeded to call me someone who does not care about others
2008-04-04 17:51 < g666RL> you said something about not experiencing racism, which seem to imply to me that you didn't care about racism in general, as long as it didn't happen to you
2008-04-04 17:51 < Working_Cat> The359: she was picking a bone about last night
2008-04-04 17:51 < gwern> we are about to acheive a troll factor of OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND!!!1
2008-04-04 17:52 < FastLizard4> ...
2008-04-04 17:52 < g666RL> no i said rinn gave a typical white male answer, not everything is about you, honey
2008-04-04 17:52 < Working_Cat> g666RL: i'd much rather you call me a nazi and be done with the argument.
2008-04-04 17:52 < Messedrocker> i'd rather y'all shut the fuck up
2008-04-04 17:52 < FastLizard4> :\
2008-04-04 17:52 < nokmar> the question is, are they both trolls, or is just one of them a troll?
2008-04-04 17:52 < Messedrocker> GOAT-SAAAAAYYYY
2008-04-04 17:52 * FastLizard4 agrees with Messedrocker
2008-04-04 17:52 < The359> When the hell did I say anything racist
2008-04-04 17:52 < Working_Cat> FastLizard4: i've been trying
2008-04-04 17:52 * The359 hasn't even talked to this g666RL person since they were banned several weeks ago
2008-04-04 17:52 < Messedrocker> see also: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~krimpet/rr.php
2008-04-04 17:53 < g666RL> Working_Cat: dont play victim, be a man and stay and debate like a grown up
2008-04-04 17:53 < Working_Cat> shes been heckling me all day
2008-04-04 17:53 < FastLizard4> People, calm down
2008-04-04 17:53 < g666RL> oooh poor boy, heckling even
2008-04-04 17:53 < Working_Cat> FastLizard4: see... open provocation.
2008-04-04 17:53 < nokmar> we need sum bansticks.
2008-04-04 17:53 < FastLizard4> nokmar: Can be done
2008-04-04 17:53 < The359> ok, seriously, someone explain these accusations
2008-04-04 17:53 < nokmar> and some ignores.
2008-04-04 17:53 * Working_Cat would much rather have fast lizard for food than argue
2008-04-04 17:53 < FastLizard4> Stop now!
2008-04-04 17:53 < g666RL> dear boy, to ask me to call you a nazi is kinda playing victim
2008-04-04 17:53 < Working_Cat> nokmar: good idea
2008-04-04 17:54 < FastLizard4> g666RL: Please stop
2008-04-04 17:54 * Working_Cat facepalms... stupid me... right click...
2008-04-04 17:54 < Working_Cat> :)
2008-04-04 17:54 * The359 is lost and accused :(
2008-04-04 17:54 < FastLizard4> This is just getting stupid
2008-04-04 17:54 < Messedrocker> see also: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~krimpet/rr.php
2008-04-04 17:54 < Working_Cat> is it just me or did things get suddenly silent on here
2008-04-04 17:54 < FastLizard4> Don't you have something better to do then call people nazis?
2008-04-04 17:54 < nokmar> The359: you're getting trolled big time.
2008-04-04 17:54 < The359> yeah, I'm trying to figure out why
2008-04-04 17:54 < The359> all this apparently happened while I was asleep
2008-04-04 17:54 < g666RL> Working_Cat: we can take it somewhere else, not disturb this general channel?
2008-04-04 17:55 < Working_Cat> Messedrocker: thats a cheap trick
2008-04-04 17:55 < gwern> Let's all argue in accordance with the socialist lifestyle!
2008-04-04 17:55 < FastLizard4> heh
2008-04-04 17:56 < Working_Cat> The359: it started when she called you a filthy racist (i have no idea why). so i asked why. and i offhandedly said i didnt care.
2008-04-04 17:56 < The359> well, actually, scrolling up, you did seem to call me one as well
2008-04-04 17:56 < Working_Cat> oh yeah, and i asked - for conversation sake - if shes minority...
2008-04-04 17:57 < Working_Cat> The359: i said you had 'tendencies' :D
2008-04-04 17:57 < g666RL> so working cat can talk but i cant
2008-04-04 17:57 < Working_Cat> i was hoping to buzz you up :P
2008-04-04 17:57 < g666RL> ??
2008-04-04 17:57 < bumm13> anyone here can talk
2008-04-04 17:57 < The359> as in joking tendencies?
2008-04-04 17:57 < g666RL> yeah right
2008-04-04 17:57 < bumm13> but being inflammatory isn't acceptable
2008-04-04 17:57 < The359> we're not arguing, we explaining things, g666RL
2008-04-04 17:57 < g666RL> aha, but whos being inflammatory?
2008-04-04 17:58 < bumm13> you are
2008-04-04 17:58 < Working_Cat> The359: no, tendencies to be a racist. now i was about to have lunch, and was obviously not in any mood to be serious.
2008-04-04 17:58 < g666RL> because?
2008-04-04 17:58 < g666RL> bumm13: because?
2008-04-04 17:58 < bumm13> stop
2008-04-04 17:58 * The359 isn't racist
2008-04-04 17:58 < bumm13> whatever argument you two were having, it's over
2008-04-04 17:58 < nokmar> if you're discussing the recent topic, please shut up.
2008-04-04 17:59 < Working_Cat> The359: are you a republican? (everyone knows the dems were the original racist party, so im not implying anything)
2008-04-04 17:59 < g666RL> i suggested going somewhere else, but he chickened out or something
2008-04-04 17:59 < The359> I hate parties
2008-04-04 17:59 < g666RL> didn't react in any case
2008-04-04 17:59 < Working_Cat> The359: then what do you do for fun?
2008-04-04 17:59 < bumm13> then that's that
2008-04-04 17:59 < FastLizard4> g666RL: Really, please stop talking about this
2008-04-04 17:59 < The359> too much classification and "Us and them" mentality
2008-04-04 18:00 < The359> stereotypes and such
2008-04-04 18:00 < Working_Cat> The359: sadly yeah. but you are avoiding my Q.
2008-04-04 18:00 < g666RL> FastLizard4: im sorry, why don't you protest against him going on and on
2008-04-04 18:00 < The359> I answered it
2008-04-04 18:00 < Cyrius> that's human nature
2008-04-04 18:00 < Working_Cat> what do u do for fun?
2008-04-04 18:00 < The359> I have no party
2008-04-04 18:00 < bumm13> this argument issue has ended
2008-04-04 18:00 * FastLizard4 concurs
2008-04-04 18:00 < Working_Cat> The359: no the next Q
2008-04-04 18:00 < The359> Fun?
2008-04-04 18:00 < Working_Cat> if you hate parties
2008-04-04 18:01 < The359> http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/5/53/531/531608/hamilton_Frank_Augstein_AP_1207332438.jpg heh
2008-04-04 18:01 < bumm13> (further related disruption will be dealt with)
2008-04-04 18:01 < The359> "That shit'll buff right out"
2008-04-04 18:01 * Working_Cat invites FastLizard4 to the cat barrel
2008-04-04 18:01 < FastLizard4> Working_Cat: no thx
2008-04-04 18:01 < g666RL> bumm13: you mean, it has ended for me, but others can talk about me? Im just asking, since obviously im not familiar with some rules here?
2008-04-04 18:01 < Working_Cat> FastLizard4: me, Ceiling_Cat and Enterprise_Cat are looking for someone to play with
2008-04-04 18:02 < bumm13> I meant what I said
2008-04-04 18:02 * Messedrocker lauds bumm13 as a war hero
2008-04-04 18:02 < bumm13> she's done this crap before
2008-04-04 18:03 < Working_Cat> im guessing that would be g666RL who got +b 'd
2008-04-04 18:03 < FastLizard4> And the moral of this story is: Don't mess with the guys with the +o's
2008-04-04 18:03 < FastLizard4> Working_Cat: Correct
2008-04-04 18:03 < Working_Cat> wow
2008-04-04 18:03 < bumm13> gets all vitriolic in arguments she provokes then acts indignant when told to stop
2008-04-04 18:03 < The359> yeah, I remember the name
2008-04-04 18:03 < The359> and I remember them arguing about something to the point of being banned
2008-04-04 18:04 < The359> I don't recall what it was though
2008-04-04 18:04 < Working_Cat> bumm13: i dunno if you were watching... but... shes got talent. if its a she.
2008-04-04 18:04 < FastLizard4> The359: He/She/It has done this before
2008-04-04 18:04 < Working_Cat> though only people i know in RL who can do that are all girls
2008-04-04 18:04 < bumm13> talent?
2008-04-04 18:04 < The359> I just said that
2008-04-04 18:05 < Working_Cat> (good thing shes not here, else i'd have been accused of being a sexist of mediveal degree)
2008-04-04 18:05 < Working_Cat> bumm13: to pick fights where there arent. to take offence where none was offered.
2008-04-04 18:05 < bumm13> people who are that sensitive to supposed gender bias are just looking for it even where it doesn't exist
2008-04-04 18:05 < bumm13> exactly
2008-04-04 18:06 < Working_Cat> i dunno about others, but frankly i havent seen any examples of racism in the same degree as i see against gays.
2008-04-04 18:07 < The359> because the gays are going to hell
2008-04-04 18:07 < The359> or something
2008-04-04 18:07 < bumm13> gay people often have it rought that way
2008-04-04 18:07 < bumm13> (certainly true in the U.S.)
2008-04-04 18:07 < bumm13> *rough
2008-04-04 18:07 < Working_Cat> The359: well if someone was going to hell, i'd totally let them be. why disturb your enemy when hes making a mistake.
2008-04-04 18:09 < Working_Cat> infact, if i KNEW i had the secret to going to heaven, i would try my best to keep it just that.
2008-04-04 18:09 < Working_Cat> the people who try to convince you that their boat is the right one are just trying to get more people into the boat so that they wont be alone in hell
2008-04-04 18:10 < bumm13> or in the River Styx
2008-04-04 18:10 < Messedrocker> according to south park, mormonism is the true path to heaven
2008-04-04 18:10 < bumm13> roffle
2008-04-04 18:10 < Messedrocker> and there was a scene of mormons in heaven
2008-04-04 18:10 < Messedrocker> it was utterly boring
2008-04-04 18:11 < bumm13> anyplace full of Mormons would be ;p
2008-04-04 18:11 < bumm13> *any place
2008-04-04 18:11 < bumm13> if Mormons ran a theme park, it'd be called Jell-O-Land
2008-04-04 18:12 < bumm13> (and would have no references to Bill Cosby)
2008-04-04 18:12 < Working_Cat> grr... i tried to tab complete mormons there....
2008-04-04 18:12 < Working_Cat> and these days im having to work on $*#@@ VB6 code...
2008-04-04 18:13 < bumm13> fun fact: Karl Malone was a sort of MLK figure for Utah in the late 80s regarding race relations
2008-04-04 18:13 < ST47> Ashley Alexandra Dupré
2008-04-04 18:13 < ST47> See?
2008-04-04 18:13 < ST47> It's an e here too!
2008-04-04 18:13 < Messedrocker> bumm13, why Jell-O-Land
2008-04-04 18:14 < bumm13> Jell-O is popular in Utah
2008-04-04 18:14 < bumm13> (don't ask me why)
2008-04-04 18:14 * Messedrocker dims working_cat as emotion = frustrated
2008-04-04 18:15 < The359> do Mormons have something against unhealthy desserts?
2008-04-04 18:15 < Working_Cat> Set Messedrocker = Nothing
2008-04-04 18:15 < Working_Cat> The359: rofl
2008-04-04 18:15 < Messedrocker> Working_Cat, actually, for assignment statements, it's just
2008-04-04 18:15 < Messedrocker> Messedrocker = nothing
2008-04-04 18:17 < ST47> I'm willing to pay people to vandalize [[Unicode]]
2008-04-04 18:17 < Cyrius> what?
2008-04-04 18:17 < ST47> Pay is proportional to the number of penises used.
2008-04-04 18:17 < ST47> (That's all)
2008-04-04 18:17 < Arwen> ST47, why?
2008-04-04 18:18 * ST47 gows to whine in private
2008-04-04 18:18 * Cream annoys ST47
2008-04-04 18:19 < bumm13> ok.....
2008-04-04 18:19 < Arwen> I read everywhere that 64-bit code is actually slower than 32-bit code, is it true?
2008-04-04 18:20 < Starnestommy> the difference is negligible
2008-04-04 18:21 < Cream> except high security
2008-04-04 18:22 < cimon> well it depends on whether you use all the bits for something useful...
2008-04-04 18:22 < Luna-San> Moar op code bits, of course.
2008-04-04 18:22 < Luna-San> Moar ops = moar better
2008-04-04 18:22 < cimon> lots of encryption is nominally of a greater length, than is acutally used effectively.
2008-04-04 18:38 < Working_Cat> okie ppl... cya later
2008-04-04 18:40 < ThePolecat> Heh... NWA renews its fleet
2008-04-04 18:40 < Messedrocker> for eternal rest
2008-04-04 18:40 < Messedrocker> fly...
2008-04-04 18:41 < ThePolecat> they had some true antiquities flying
2008-04-04 18:43 < gwern> 'If only there were a vast repository of information accessible via computer!
2008-04-04 18:43 < gwern> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_pointer'
2008-04-04 18:44 < ThePolecat> the innernet is not sumpn that you jus dump sumpn on
2008-04-04 18:44 < cimon> the outernet on the other hand...
2008-04-04 18:45 < Messedrocker> the "innernet" is the inner lining in swimming trunks :)
2008-04-04 18:45 * Cream cuddles Messedrocker
2008-04-04 18:45 * Cream cuddles cimon
2008-04-04 18:47 < Antibuddha> i was reading the article called criticism of wikipedia, and i find it to be suffer from self-recursion
2008-04-04 18:47 < Messedrocker> self-recursion you say?
2008-04-04 18:48 < Antibuddha> the worst things about wikipedia can be found in how the article is written
2008-04-04 18:48 < Messedrocker> hahahhahahhahahahahah
2008-04-04 18:48 < Antibuddha> the first sentence tries to link criticism of wikipedia with its "size and popularity"
2008-04-04 18:48 < Antibuddha> which i presume is a wikipedian attempt to make critics of wikipedia sound stupid
2008-04-04 18:49 * ThePolecat creates [[Criticism of Criticism of Wikipedia]]
2008-04-04 18:49 < Messedrocker> if i were to speak of it objectively
2008-04-04 18:49 < Messedrocker> i'd say it's supposed to mean
2008-04-04 18:49 < Messedrocker> that as a result of size and popularity
2008-04-04 18:49 < Messedrocker> there's criticism
2008-04-04 18:49 < Messedrocker> which er sounds stupid
2008-04-04 18:49 < Aqwis> well it's true
2008-04-04 18:49 < Antibuddha> how come wikipedia cant even be objective on an article that has the word criticism in it
2008-04-04 18:49 < Aqwis> noone bothers with criticizing my personal wiki
2008-04-04 18:50 < ThePolecat> Because criticism is innately POV
2008-04-04 18:50 < bumm13> haha
2008-04-04 18:50 < Antibuddha> you should be ashamed not to be able to objectively express your pov
2008-04-04 18:50 < ThePolecat> Aqwis: Your personal Wiki sucks.
2008-04-04 18:50 < ThePolecat> Happy?
2008-04-04 18:50 < Aqwis> no
2008-04-04 18:50 < Aqwis> it contains my thoughts
2008-04-04 18:50 < ThePolecat> there's no such thing.
2008-04-04 18:50 < Aqwis> those do not suck :|
2008-04-04 18:50 < Aqwis> pfft
2008-04-04 18:50 < bumm13> thoughts are dangerous
2008-04-04 18:50 < ThePolecat> it's either POV or objective.
2008-04-04 18:50 < ThePolecat> Only God's POV is objective.
2008-04-04 18:50 < bumm13> governments must stop people from having them
2008-04-04 18:51 < Antibuddha> Only God's POV is objective. <-- this is what i hate about wikipedians, they bring something mystical to refute someone
2008-04-04 18:51 < Aqwis> Antibuddha, hi sir
2008-04-04 18:51 < ijustam> is the wiki db behind?
2008-04-04 18:51 < Aqwis> what are you talking about?
2008-04-04 18:51 < Aqwis> mystical to refute someone?
2008-04-04 18:52 < Antibuddha> you wikipedians failed even (or especially) on the article called criticism of wikipedia
2008-04-04 18:52 < ThePolecat> there's no refuting
2008-04-04 18:52 < Antibuddha> please do me a favor and delete it
2008-04-04 18:52 < Aqwis> do you a favor?
2008-04-04 18:52 < Aqwis> who the hell are you?
2008-04-04 18:52 < ThePolecat> okay, be constructive now.
2008-04-04 18:52 < Antibuddha> you are constructing a tower of babel
2008-04-04 18:52 < ThePolecat> Who is accusing who of mysticism, anyway...
2008-04-04 18:53 < Antibuddha> you and your stupid idea of god having a pov and that it is the objective one
2008-04-04 18:53 < nokmar> you would think that people would learn after being trolled over and over.
2008-04-04 18:53 < Antibuddha> nokmar: people dont think get used to it
2008-04-04 18:53 < ThePolecat> It could just as well mean the absence of objectivity.
2008-04-04 18:54 < Aqwis> nokmar, i'm bored
2008-04-04 18:54 < Antibuddha> ThePolecat: i dont like your polecat polemic
2008-04-04 18:54 < ThePolecat> You're not being clever.
2008-04-04 18:54 < Messedrocker> kebab kilroy and win 72 virgins
2008-04-04 18:54 < Messedrocker> why don't you sell your second home in spain and buy one in huthwaite
2008-04-04 18:54 < Antibuddha> ThePolecat: i am being clever, you polemic polecat
2008-04-04 18:55 < Antibuddha> and i see clearly now with my new eizo computer monitor
2008-04-04 18:55 < ijustam> is the rain gone?
2008-04-04 18:55 < Antibuddha> 97% of adobe mrgb
2008-04-04 18:55 < bumm13> are we enjoying the entertainment, or shall we change the channel? ;)
2008-04-04 18:55 < ThePolecat> I guess this discussion is over then.
2008-04-04 18:55 * ijustam sees clearly now that the rain is gone
2008-04-04 18:55 < uberpenguin> CCR
2008-04-04 18:55 < bumm13> nope
2008-04-04 18:55 < Antibuddha> ThePolecat: it aint over until someone deletes that stupid article
2008-04-04 18:55 * uberpenguin waves his lighter
2008-04-04 18:55 < bumm13> nice guess, though
2008-04-04 18:55 < ijustam> what is the article in question
2008-04-04 18:56 < Antibuddha> criticism of wikipedia
2008-04-04 18:56 < Antibuddha> written by wikipedians
2008-04-04 18:56 < uberpenguin> huh?
2008-04-04 18:56 < Antibuddha> ew
2008-04-04 18:56 < ThePolecat> Have you read criteria for deletion?
2008-04-04 18:56 < Antibuddha> no, this supposed "criticism of wikipedia" should not be subject to stupid wikipedian rules
2008-04-04 18:56 < bumm13> Antibuddha: that's ridiculous and you know it
2008-04-04 18:56 < NotACow> BITE THE WAX TADPOLE!
2008-04-04 18:56 < uberpenguin> this channel is boring, I want to watch something else
2008-04-04 18:56 * Cyrius hands NotACow a coke
2008-04-04 18:57 < ThePolecat> By virtue of being on Wikipedia, and Wikipedia not being under any other rules, it should.
2008-04-04 18:57 < Messedrocker> NotACow, stop stating the Chinese names of soft drinks
2008-04-04 18:57 < NotACow> wikipedia cannot be criticised.
2008-04-04 18:57 < ijustam> Antibuddha: you should add your argument to that page
2008-04-04 18:57 < Aqwis> NotACow, blog already :|
2008-04-04 18:57 < Antibuddha> letting wikipedians full authority on writing an article critical of wikipedia is ridiculous, and you call /me/ ridiculous for pointing it out
2008-04-04 18:57 < Messedrocker> ROCK N ROLL IS THE JOY RIDE MUSIC
2008-04-04 18:57 < NotACow> it is the best encyclopedia in the world and not subject to criticism by mere mortals.
2008-04-04 18:57 < Messedrocker> WHIP THE SNOW LEOPARD'S ASS
2008-04-04 18:57 < Messedrocker> ROCK SADDAM HUSSEIN'S ASS
2008-04-04 18:57 < Antibuddha> ijustam: no, pages are stupid
2008-04-04 18:57 < NotACow> Aqwis: why?
2008-04-04 18:57 * bumm13 NP: Candlebox - Change (1993)
2008-04-04 18:57 < Messedrocker> NotACow, I am immortal. May I criticize it?
2008-04-04 18:57 < NotACow> Aqwis: i'm not your trained minkey.
2008-04-04 18:57 < ThePolecat> Rock in Casper
2008-04-04 18:57 < NotACow> Messedrocker: yes.
2008-04-04 18:57 < ijustam> Antibuddha: ok.
2008-04-04 18:57 < Aqwis> because i find the topic you were going to blog about interesting
2008-04-04 18:57 < Aqwis> and yes, you are
2008-04-04 18:57 < NotACow> Messedrocker: you have my permission to criticize wikipedia.
2008-04-04 18:58 < NotACow> Aqwis: i've been busy studying
2008-04-04 18:58 < Aqwis> hmz
2008-04-04 18:58 < NotACow> Aqwis: the test is tomorrow
2008-04-04 18:58 < ThePolecat> NotACow: You're like Mao, you just collect lists of the enemies of the state.
2008-04-04 18:58 < ThePolecat> by giving them "freedom for criticism"
2008-04-04 18:58 < NotACow> ThePolecat: i'm on most of those lists.
2008-04-04 18:58 < ThePolecat> I know well.
2008-04-04 18:59 < NotACow> i should start a game of mao
2008-04-04 18:59 < Antibuddha> my biggest criticism of wikipedia is that its written by half asleep couchpotatoes and computer gamers
2008-04-04 18:59 < Messedrocker> Many days I like saying "for fuck's sake, you're fighting over a computer website!"
2008-04-04 18:59 < bumm13> Antibuddha: that's a weak complaint, all things considered
2008-04-04 18:59 < nokmar> #wikipedia needs more trigger-happy admins
2008-04-04 18:59 < Antibuddha> bumm13: how many hours of tv do you watch a day
2008-04-04 18:59 < NotACow> #wikipedia needs more cowbell
2008-04-04 18:59 < bumm13> also, I doubt many coach potatoes sit in front of a computer
2008-04-04 18:59 * Messedrocker watches close to 0 hours of TV per day
2008-04-04 18:59 < bumm13> TV: less than 1, usually
2008-04-04 19:00 < NotACow> i typically watch about 5 hours a week
2008-04-04 19:00 < Messedrocker> when i want to watch TiVo, I have a generous backlog of TiVo
2008-04-04 19:00 < Messedrocker> when i want to watch TV*
2008-04-04 19:00 < ijustam> <3 tivo
2008-04-04 19:00 * ThePolecat watches close to half an hour of TV a week
2008-04-04 19:00 < ThePolecat> the start of two television news programs per week
2008-04-04 19:00 < NotACow> Messedrocker: my tivo is almost always completely full
2008-04-04 19:00 < Messedrocker> my TiVo isn't close to getting full, i just never watch it
2008-04-04 19:00 < ijustam> my tivo is full of episodes i never watch
2008-04-04 19:00 < ijustam> 30-40 episodes of how it's made
2008-04-04 19:00 < NotACow> ThePolecat: i tend to watch both TDS and CR
2008-04-04 19:01 < NotACow> ThePolecat: we sometimes skip the interview
2008-04-04 19:01 < ThePolecat> We just get lame "European versions" on CNN Intl
2008-04-04 19:01 < Messedrocker> colbert report on CNN?
2008-04-04 19:01 < NotACow> so that's about 40 minutes four days a week
2008-04-04 19:01 < ThePolecat> Well, Stewart anyway
2008-04-04 19:01 < Antibuddha> im going to copy and paste wikipedia's "criticism of wikipedia" and transpose it on uncyclopedia's "criticism of uncyclopedia", where it belongs
2008-04-04 19:01 < ThePolecat> Happy sporking.
2008-04-04 19:04 < NotACow> VIPER ATTACK!
2008-04-04 19:04 < Messedrocker> NotACow, that non-sequitur reminded me of Jack Black for some reason
2008-04-04 19:04 < ThePolecat> I am ze viper. I've come to vipe your vindow.
2008-04-04 19:04 < NotACow> ThePolecat: my son's nickname is The Viper
2008-04-04 19:05 < ThePolecat> does he bite?
2008-04-04 19:05 < Messedrocker> does he appreciate the nickname?
2008-04-04 19:05 < NotACow> Messedrocker: he's just short of 11 months old, so it's hard to say
2008-04-04 19:06 < NotACow> it's short for the Tufted Spotted Viper, actually
2008-04-04 19:06 < Messedrocker> ah, my mom called me what she pleased, and it took me years to undo the effects
2008-04-04 19:06 < NotACow> it started out just being the Viper
2008-04-04 19:06 < NotACow> and then his spots became medically significant, and that made it the Spotted Viper