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2008-04-01 11:33 < Demi> or stamps could work like a currency market, with a market exchange rate for postage
2008-04-01 11:33 < bumm13> hmm, that would be unusual
2008-04-01 11:33 < Demi> so if you have a first class stamp, it's like a dollar, and always good for a first class mailing
2008-04-01 11:33 < Demi> but to buy them new, you have to buy them at the current exchange rate
2008-04-01 11:34 < Working_Cat> heh
2008-04-01 11:34 < bumm13> they'd float against the dollar?
2008-04-01 11:34 < Demi> yeah
2008-04-01 11:34 < bumm13> hmm
2008-04-01 11:34 < Working_Cat> like we didnt have enough of that already
2008-04-01 11:34 < bumm13> not sure how that would work out
2008-04-01 11:34 < Demi> i mean, the bulk of the USPS revenue is "just in time" buying via metering or whatever; you might get a little investment game going where people hoard stamps, but the return would be very low and i doubt there would be very much of that
2008-04-01 11:35 < bumm13> yeah, it'd be pointless
2008-04-01 11:35 < Demi> in theory you could do that game now with stamps, since you can buy them at a discount at costco
2008-04-01 11:35 < bumm13> costco has zero dealer markup on them?
2008-04-01 11:35 < Demi> but the nice thing about it would be it would be very consumer-friendly because a first class stamp would always be good
2008-04-01 11:35 < NotACow> Demi: aren't they issuing "forever" stamps now that are good for one first class maining regardless of what the price does?
2008-04-01 11:35 < bumm13> yes, I was just reading about those
2008-04-01 11:36 < Demi> bumm13 - a discount, actually, you can actually buy a stamp there (well a hundred) at less than face value
2008-04-01 11:36 < bumm13> of course, most individuals don't need 100 stamps ;)
2008-04-01 11:36 < Demi> maybe, NotACow
2008-04-01 11:36 < bumm13> and businesses tend to use metering
2008-04-01 11:37 < Demi> right, well, costco bakes it in as a loss leader to drum up their other business, but i think it shows that stamp hoarding for tiny gains would probably not be a problem
2008-04-01 11:37 < NotACow> bumm13: obviously YOU don't send christmas cards!
2008-04-01 11:37 < bumm13> hell no
2008-04-01 11:38 < Demi> we do but we don't sell them with the generic stamps they have at costco :)
2008-04-01 11:38 < CharlotteWebb> eventually postage will become as much of a game as those bloody tracfone cards
2008-04-01 11:40 < Working_Cat> those cards cost more if they have blood on them?
2008-04-01 11:40 < Scott5114> yeah, they do have "forever" stamps
2008-04-01 11:40 < Scott5114> I have a bunch of them because I hardly ever mail things anymore
2008-04-01 11:40 < Working_Cat> in my country, things cost less if theres blood splattered over them
2008-04-01 11:40 < Scott5114> so I'll probably run out of them years from now
2008-04-01 11:42 * SynergeticMag begins to have blurry vision
2008-04-01 11:42 < CharlotteWebb> too bad april fools day doesn't occur more often
2008-04-01 11:42 < bumm13> !!!!!
2008-04-01 11:43 < Working_Cat> SynergeticMag: juggle knives
2008-04-01 11:43 < CharlotteWebb> you know, whoever you are there will be people whom you have written off as having no sense of humor
2008-04-01 11:43 < SynergeticMag> not with these pills... hell no
2008-04-01 11:44 < CharlotteWebb> it's uplifting to see them... taking themselves less seriously
2008-04-01 11:44 < SynergeticMag> don't get all emotions on us
2008-04-01 11:45 < CharlotteWebb> oh come off it
2008-04-01 11:45 < Working_Cat> SynergeticMag: please :(
2008-04-01 11:46 < Working_Cat> CharlotteWebb: your boss?
2008-04-01 11:46 < SynergeticMag> you want me to juggle knives on sleeping pills?
2008-04-01 11:46 < SynergeticMag> no way
2008-04-01 11:46 < Working_Cat> yup
2008-04-01 11:46 < SynergeticMag> pffft
2008-04-01 11:46 < SynergeticMag> and pshaw
2008-04-01 11:46 < SynergeticMag> you know, pshaw is an actual word, thats the damnedist thing
2008-04-01 11:47 * Working_Cat looks at others and shrugs... atleast i tried
2008-04-01 11:47 * SynergeticMag hides behind CharlotteWebb
2008-04-01 11:47 < SynergeticMag> no knives!
2008-04-01 11:47 < CharlotteWebb> i'm talking about wikipedians, the otherwise infallibly stiff ones
2008-04-01 11:48 < SynergeticMag> i got your point, thats why i gave out a humor barnstar too
2008-04-01 11:48 < SynergeticMag> and maybe another one when i'm more ... concious
2008-04-01 11:48 < Working_Cat> to?
2008-04-01 11:48 < Working_Cat> conscious*
2008-04-01 11:48 < SynergeticMag> i gave someone else a barnstar, they never said thank you or anything
2008-04-01 11:48 < CharlotteWebb> like they're afraid of appearing to have a good time
2008-04-01 11:48 < SynergeticMag> so they get no more
2008-04-01 11:49 < CharlotteWebb> like people will judge them, or like they actually care
2008-04-01 11:49 < Working_Cat> CharlotteWebb: exactly. no one cares.
2008-04-01 11:49 < SynergeticMag> well if you check my contrib's, you'll see i wasn't afraid to act out today
2008-04-01 11:50 < SynergeticMag> but it's all over after today
2008-04-01 11:50 < SynergeticMag> its an encyclopedia, not myspace
2008-04-01 11:53 < Working_Cat> oops i shut CharlotteWebb up
2008-04-01 11:53 < SynergeticMag> ah, i thought i did
2008-04-01 11:53 < SynergeticMag> so we can take half the blame i suppose
2008-04-01 11:53 < SynergeticMag> or i'll give you 75% and i'll take .5%
2008-04-01 11:54 < SynergeticMag> leaving the rest up in the air
2008-04-01 11:54 < Working_Cat> nah, we'll just say she ran out of steam
2008-04-01 11:55 < CharlotteWebb> pfft
2008-04-01 11:55 < SynergeticMag> :)
2008-04-01 11:55 < Working_Cat> there you go
2008-04-01 11:58 < Demi> how many people throw around the phrase "run out of steam" in a cavalier manner and don't appreciate what it refers to?
2008-04-01 11:58 < CharlotteWebb> locomotives?
2008-04-01 11:59 < CharlotteWebb> (i think i can, i think i can...)
2008-04-01 12:01 < CharlotteWebb> hehe [[Rail transport in fiction]]
2008-04-01 12:01 < CharlotteWebb> <3 cruft
2008-04-01 12:02 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR KATZ!
2008-04-01 12:03 < Demi> that page is like an april fool's joke in itself
2008-04-01 12:04 < Demi> "Digimon Tamers: The Runaway Digimon Express features a train like Digimon called Locomon that is controlled by another Digimon causing it to run wild on the rail ways. It later evolves into a meaner looking Digimon called Grandlocomon."
2008-04-01 12:04 < Demi> "Men In Black; Men In Black 2 (films) starring Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones, has aliens living in the Subway." <- i'm removing this, as capitalization clearly indicates the aliens were living in a Subway restaurant.
2008-04-01 12:06 < CharlotteWebb> hehehe
2008-04-01 12:07 < CharlotteWebb> that jared guy is clearly from outer space
2008-04-01 12:07 < Cometstyles> wasn't one of the aliens, Johnny Knoxville? :)
2008-04-01 12:07 < Ceiling_Cat> COMETSTYLES!!!
2008-04-01 12:07 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles]
2008-04-01 12:07 < Cometstyles> RAUL !!
2008-04-01 12:07 * Cometstyles butthuggles ^_^
2008-04-01 12:08 * Ceiling_Cat steals Cometstyles's precious innocence, puts it in a jar, puts the jar on the shelf
2008-04-01 12:08 < Cometstyles> :~( innocence lost ;~(
2008-04-01 12:08 < Cyrius> no, it's right there
2008-04-01 12:09 < Cometstyles> :p
2008-04-01 12:09 < Demi> if you can find it via Ceiling_Cat's terrible indexing system
2008-04-01 12:09 < CharlotteWebb> card catalog?
2008-04-01 12:09 < SynergeticMag> Cometstyle: good work on vandal fighting this morning
2008-04-01 12:10 < SynergeticMag> er Cometstyles *
2008-04-01 12:10 < Cometstyles> ahh :D
2008-04-01 12:10 < Cometstyles> i do it out of boredom :P
2008-04-01 12:11 < SynergeticMag> same here, when i can't figure out what i want to do
2008-04-01 12:11 < Cometstyles> O_O
2008-04-01 12:11 < SynergeticMag> one more cig and i'm off to bed
2008-04-01 12:11 * SynergeticMag yawns
2008-04-01 12:11 < Cometstyles> smoking kills, sleep tight :P
2008-04-01 12:12 * Ceiling_Cat likes it when they yawn
2008-04-01 12:12 < Ceiling_Cat> or squirm
2008-04-01 12:12 < SynergeticMag> oh i'm not off yet
2008-04-01 12:12 < Working_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: gives you a chance to pop it in?
2008-04-01 12:12 < Cometstyles> O_O
2008-04-01 12:13 < Cometstyles> yewah, urgh facehugglers :P
2008-04-01 12:13 < SynergeticMag> and i'm hoping that smoking will kill
2008-04-01 12:13 < SynergeticMag> he
2008-04-01 12:13 < SynergeticMag> heh*
2008-04-01 12:13 < Working_Cat> "The new Hadron collider could destroy the earth. I say go for it."
2008-04-01 12:13 < Working_Cat> erm...
2008-04-01 12:14 < Working_Cat> "The new Hadron collider could destroy the earth.".... I say go for it!!!
2008-04-01 12:14 < Working_Cat> its about time anyways
2008-04-01 12:15 < Ceiling_Cat> WORKING_CAT!!!
2008-04-01 12:15 < Ceiling_Cat> Did you bring Catty_Arbucle with you?
2008-04-01 12:15 < Working_Cat> yes?
2008-04-01 12:16 < Working_Cat> no?
2008-04-01 12:16 < Ceiling_Cat> http://youcantmakeitup.blogspot.com/2005/08/catty-arbuckle.html
2008-04-01 12:16 < Cometstyles> what no Dead and rotting_Cat :P ?
2008-04-01 12:17 < CharlotteWebb> wtfo
2008-04-01 12:18 < Working_Cat> what
2008-04-01 12:19 < CharlotteWebb> dircbot banning somebody for no apparent reason
2008-04-01 12:19 < Working_Cat> wtf... orange?
2008-04-01 12:19 < Cyrius> uban.
2008-04-01 12:19 < Cyrius> unban, gha
2008-04-01 12:19 < Demi> CharlotteWebb - what? where?
2008-04-01 12:19 < Working_Cat> whom did it ban
2008-04-01 12:19 < Cyrius> GAH
2008-04-01 12:19 < Working_Cat> Cyrius: multifail
2008-04-01 12:19 < Working_Cat> lol metaphail too
2008-04-01 12:19 * Cyrius hangs his head in sahme
2008-04-01 12:19 < Ceiling_Cat> AARRRRRRRRRRGHGH
2008-04-01 12:19 * SynergeticMag steals CharlotteWebb's calculator
2008-04-01 12:20 < CharlotteWebb> i don't know who is affected
2008-04-01 12:20 * Ceiling_Cat mashes face against keyboard
2008-04-01 12:20 < Ceiling_Cat> DAMN YOU NOHUP
2008-04-01 12:20 < nsh> WHOOM DO YOU LOVE?
2008-04-01 12:20 < Working_Cat> heh, CharlotteWebb chatzilla?
2008-04-01 12:20 < Working_Cat> whats NOHUP
2008-04-01 12:20 < Cyrius> CharlotteWebb: it was an unban.
2008-04-01 12:20 < Working_Cat> yeah it was -obb
2008-04-01 12:20 < Ceiling_Cat> Working_Cat - see [[nohup]]
2008-04-01 12:20 < Working_Cat> unbanned 2 ppl i guess
2008-04-01 12:20 < SynergeticMag> ok i'm out
2008-04-01 12:20 < SynergeticMag> night everyone
2008-04-01 12:21 < Working_Cat> ah, i thought i'd seen it
2008-04-01 12:21 < Working_Cat> i've done SIG_HUPs to give people HICC_HUPs
2008-04-01 12:22 < Working_Cat> whats the unban spree for
2008-04-01 12:22 < CharlotteWebb> serious FUC_KUPs
2008-04-01 12:22 * Ceiling_Cat infects Cometstyles with The Big One
2008-04-01 12:22 < Cyrius> because there was a ban-spree 24 hours ago
2008-04-01 12:22 < Cometstyles> O_O
2008-04-01 12:23 < Working_Cat> zomg, Cometstyles has the GOP
2008-04-01 12:23 < Cometstyles> lolwut?
2008-04-01 12:23 < Ceiling_Cat> She's a witch!
2008-04-01 12:23 < Ceiling_Cat> burn her!
2008-04-01 12:24 < Golbez> CNN Developing story >> Journalist in Zimbabwe tells CNN three opposition sources confirm President Robert Mugabe will step down.
2008-04-01 12:25 < Working_Cat> whos a witch?
2008-04-01 12:27 < Cyrius> dircbot broke it!
2008-04-01 12:27 < Cyrius> Golbez: I'll believe it when he's dead.
2008-04-01 12:28 < Cometstyles> O_O
2008-04-01 12:28 < Cometstyles> dircbot, you meany :|
2008-04-01 12:33 < Working_Cat> what happened
2008-04-01 12:33 < Working_Cat> and whos a witch
2008-04-01 12:36 < The359> is it a good witch or a bad witch?
2008-04-01 12:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Apology: If you are anonymous because you are 1) harassed by admins for adding content to Wikipedia, 2) a notable artist or programmer trying to edit wikipedia without being made an unperson by a wiki-wanker, 3) using multiple accounts to infiltrate Wikipedia's top tier -- I am sincerely sorry if you are adversely affected by me running a bulldozer over the anonymity function. Please consider your self promotion legitmate, and consider me a willin
2008-04-01 12:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Caveat: If you are a pre- or post-operative transsexual child rapist or serial killer, please disregard this list and go back to "WP:OWNing" Wikipedia articles and working for ArbCom.
2008-04-01 12:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Parents: if you spot a minor child's name on this list, please encourage them to minimize their risk exposure to bad grades and encyclopederasty by deactivating their Wikipedia account.
2008-04-01 12:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Everyone else,
2008-04-01 12:36 < Ceiling_Cat> eeeekk
2008-04-01 12:37 < Ceiling_Cat> sorry for the flood
2008-04-01 12:38 < The359> ???
2008-04-01 12:39 < Cyrius> http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/296590
2008-04-01 12:39 < Cyrius> oh, they set up a site
2008-04-01 12:39 < Cyrius> http://www.coboloncogs.org/INDEX.HTM
2008-04-01 12:40 < gwern> Meddle not into the affairs of wizards unless you are soggy and hard to light.
2008-04-01 12:44 < Working_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: wtf
2008-04-01 12:44 < Ceiling_Cat> Working_Cat - accidental paste on my part
2008-04-01 12:44 < Ceiling_Cat> from http://www.contextflexed.com/storywikipediaexposed.html
2008-04-01 12:44 < Working_Cat> not the paste. the content.
2008-04-01 12:47 < Working_Cat> Mark Pellegrini, Delaware , electrical, computer engineer (MAGIC 28)
2008-04-01 12:47 < Working_Cat> heh
2008-04-01 12:48 < Cometstyles> magic 28= oversighters :P
2008-04-01 12:48 < Ceiling_Cat> Ahhhhhh
2008-04-01 12:48 < Ceiling_Cat> Thank you
2008-04-01 12:48 < Ceiling_Cat> that was going to bother me for a while
2008-04-01 12:48 < Working_Cat> what was?
2008-04-01 12:49 < Working_Cat> THE MAGIC 28 (Uberusergruppenfuhrers): <-- lolwtf
2008-04-01 12:49 < Ceiling_Cat> not knowing what magic 28 meant
2008-04-01 12:50 < Working_Cat> oh
2008-04-01 12:50 < Working_Cat> KM is on there too
2008-04-01 12:50 < Working_Cat> but given the description, i wont paste it
2008-04-01 12:51 < Cometstyles> XD
2008-04-01 12:52 < Working_Cat> its funny how immature people react when ditched.
2008-04-01 12:53 < Working_Cat> well, sad rather. funny in an ironic way :P
2008-04-01 12:54 < Ceiling_Cat> time to go
2008-04-01 12:54 * Ceiling_Cat waves
2008-04-01 12:55 < Working_Cat> cya later
2008-04-01 12:55 < Working_Cat> anyone else alive?
2008-04-01 12:55 < kyorosuke> yes
2008-04-01 12:55 < snowolf> could be
2008-04-01 12:59 < zvook> hmm
2008-04-01 13:00 < gwern> http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3074 <-- bastards, I hate invisible poll options
2008-04-01 13:01 < gwern> since it's april 1st, should be some good lolcats posted
2008-04-01 13:01 < OvrLrd-Q> lolcats have jumped the shark
2008-04-01 13:01 < kyorosuke> for some value of "good", anyway
2008-04-01 13:02 * gwern wonders why isohunt has rickrolled me. why isohunt why?
2008-04-01 13:02 < gwern> that's twice today
2008-04-01 13:03 < gwern> is it just me, or does he look like he shouldn't have such a deeply pitched voice?
2008-04-01 13:03 < kyorosuke> is that the thing with "Never Gonna Give You Up" instead of whatever you were looking for?
2008-04-01 13:03 < Demi> why does everything always get worse?
2008-04-01 13:03 < kyorosuke> and yes, a lot of people have made that observation
2008-04-01 13:03 < The359> WHY IS THERE SO MUCH COMPLAINING?!
2008-04-01 13:03 < Cyrius> gwern: invisable poll option?
2008-04-01 13:03 < gwern> Demi: because you get older
2008-04-01 13:04 < Demi> i don't think that's it
2008-04-01 13:04 < gwern> or possibly because we are in the Age of the Decline of the Law, while we await the Mahdi/Messiah/FutureBuddhaMaitreya/etc
2008-04-01 13:04 < Cyrius> kyorosuke: yes. the song is by Rick Astley. don't ask me to explain the "roll" part of the name
2008-04-01 13:04 < The359> DO A BARREL ROLL!
2008-04-01 13:04 < Demi> i don't think the sony DSC-T70 is a worse camera than the DSC-T20 (which it's now hard to get) because i'm older now
2008-04-01 13:04 < kyorosuke> Cyrius: yeah, I'm familiar with the song.
2008-04-01 13:04 < gwern> “I know there were occasions when I just wrote people off completely because of what they were reading long before it ever got near the point of falling in or out of love: Baudrillard (way too pretentious), John Irving (way too middlebrow), Virginia Woolf (way too Virginia Woolf).”
2008-04-01 13:05 < gwern> Cyrius: from duck rolling
2008-04-01 13:05 < gwern> the WP article explains it (as does the New York Times article on rickrolling...)
2008-04-01 13:05 < Cyrius> gwern: you did see youtube rickrolling people?
2008-04-01 13:05 < The359> of all the people to rickroll
2008-04-01 13:05 < The359> YouTube I'd least expect
2008-04-01 13:05 < The359> wait, no...
2008-04-01 13:05 < Netsniper> i rickrolled my boss
2008-04-01 13:05 < kyorosuke> Cyrius: but I have no idea where the whole internet meme thing came from... all I know is that I tried to download some Gurren Laggan and I was really confused when I got Rick Astley instead...
2008-04-01 13:06 < gwern> Cyrius: no
2008-04-01 13:06 * gwern goes
2008-04-01 13:06 < kyorosuke> but of all things, stupidity and randomness on the internet should not surprise me...
2008-04-01 13:06 < Cyrius> gwern: check out the featured videos while you're there
2008-04-01 13:06 < gwern> kyorosuke: lol. don't worry, gurren lagann isn't *that* great
2008-04-01 13:07 < kyorosuke> it was the episode right before the timeskip, which I think is a recap episode anyway
2008-04-01 13:07 * gwern sees no rickrolling on youtube.com
2008-04-01 13:07 < gwern> oh wait, there we go
2008-04-01 13:07 < gwern> you have to pick one of the video links
2008-04-01 13:07 < Cyrius> well, yeah
2008-04-01 13:08 < gwern> kyorosuke: mostly
2008-04-01 13:08 < Cyrius> if they just did it to you when you loaded youtube.com, there wouldn't be much point
2008-04-01 13:08 < zvook> i'm surprised they have a non copyright vio rick astley video
2008-04-01 13:08 * gwern dunno, but I didn't like the post-timeskip episodes
2008-04-01 13:08 < gwern> I was expecting to see the context for the first episode opening clip, but we never saw it
2008-04-01 13:08 < zvook> dudes, being on IRC already grants you your nerd cards, there is no need for further talk of time-skip episodes
2008-04-01 13:09 < kyorosuke> yeah, that was really lame
2008-04-01 13:09 < gwern> although the final fight was epically silly, and the ending was appropriately gainaxy
2008-04-01 13:09 < kyorosuke> the ending was perfect gainax though
2008-04-01 13:09 < kyorosuke> yeah, haha
2008-04-01 13:10 < gwern> kyorosuke: I mean, galaxies aren't solid tihngs you can throw like shuriken!
2008-04-01 13:10 < gwern> they're amorphous loosely gravitationally bound clusters of gas and dark matter
2008-04-01 13:10 < gwern> 'There was a time when not having sex consumed a very small part of Janie Fredell’s life, but that, of course, was back in Colorado Springs.'
2008-04-01 13:11 < kyorosuke> yeah... "galaxy-sized mecha" sounds good, but loses something in execution
2008-04-01 13:11 * gwern hopes pandora.com isn't going to rickroll me
2008-04-01 13:12 < gwern> must've been trying to top Gunbuster
2008-04-01 13:13 < kyorosuke> it's easy to top Gunbuster, all you need is hard work and guts! right, coach?
2008-04-01 13:13 < gwern> on the other hand, I'm convinced that Gurren Lagann was just an exercise for Gainax - 'what's the most loving parody of big mecha anime like our own Gunbuster stuff we can do with the ridiculous metaphor for sex of drilling?'
2008-04-01 13:13 < Working_Cat> zvook: lol
2008-04-01 13:15 < Working_Cat> i find the name gurren lagann funny. there was a movie Lagaan with a character Gurran in there :D
2008-04-01 13:16 < kyorosuke> well, I'm just glad that a popular mecha anime that wasn't angsty (much) or Gundam was released... the last thing that I would call a "super robot" show prior to GL was Godannar, which was decent but had way, way too much fanservice
2008-04-01 13:16 < gwern> Working_Cat: it's a weird name, with an even weirder translation
2008-04-01 13:16 < Working_Cat> whats the xlation?
2008-04-01 13:17 < gwern> how does it go, 'lagann' is the little head, 'gurren lagann' is the head combined with a normal full size body, 'tengen gurren lagann' was the moon-battleship form, and 'toppan tengen gurren lagann' is the final galazy-sized form?
2008-04-01 13:18 < kyorosuke> something like that
2008-04-01 13:18 < kyorosuke> I was under the impression that "gurren" and "lagann" were just made up words though
2008-04-01 13:19 < gwern> could be. gainax doesn't mind making up stuff
2008-04-01 13:20 < Working_Cat> the whole convo on cars and then bikes.. and now this
2008-04-01 13:20 < gwern> 'Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (天元突破グレンラガン, Tengen Toppa Guren Ragan?, lit. "Break-Through Heaven Gurren Lagann" or more loosely "Heaven Shattering Gurren Lagann") is a Japanese shōnen anime television series animated by Gainax and co-produced by Aniplex and Konami. '
2008-04-01 13:21 < gwern> 'With regard to reading the fan criticisms, Akai stated that it was "like putting [his] face next to an anus and breathing deeply." Fans later became aware of his comments, and he announced his departure from the company he helped to found.'
2008-04-01 13:21 < gwern> he was one of, if not the, last founder of Gainax, y'know
2008-04-01 13:21 < Working_Cat> lol
2008-04-01 13:23 < kyorosuke> you know
2008-04-01 13:23 < Working_Cat> no.
2008-04-01 13:23 < kyorosuke> when I first saw the fourth episode, I didn't even notice anything weird
2008-04-01 13:23 < Working_Cat> and i dont wanna know either
2008-04-01 13:23 < kyorosuke> I must not be that attentative
2008-04-01 13:23 < Working_Cat> ok then
2008-04-01 13:23 < gwern> To the matter of masturbation, he said, “This was really tough for me . . . because when you have a habit that’s so deeply ingrained, it’s hard to stop.”
2008-04-01 13:23 < gwern> Fredell, when asked about masturbation, just said, “Oh, God, no!”
2008-04-01 13:23 < gwern> (fredell = she)
2008-04-01 13:24 < Working_Cat> okie
2008-04-01 13:24 < Working_Cat> cya later
2008-04-01 13:24 < gwern> Another appears to be Janie Fredell. Keliher smiled and said he was “a little bit” attracted to her — “in very superficial ways,” he added. “It’s something we laugh about — if we dated.”
2008-04-01 13:24 < kyorosuke> http://www.abbyshot.com/products/l-animestyle.php
2008-04-01 13:25 < gwern> But Fredell did not laugh. “No!” she erupted, and with increasing volume, “No! No! No! I can’t emphasize enough that there is nothing between me and Leo! It’s just that we’re not compatible in that regard.”
2008-04-01 13:25 < gwern> kyorosuke: I noticed, but I figured the looking like crap was either bad encoding or some deliberate arty thing
2008-04-01 13:25 < gwern> or possibly both like with NGE...
2008-04-01 13:25 < kyorosuke> heh
2008-04-01 13:26 < kyorosuke> it doesn't help that it's not a very interesting episode plot-wise
2008-04-01 13:26 < kyorosuke> aside from interesting Kittan
2008-04-01 13:26 < Arwen> why are we talking about cartoons?
2008-04-01 13:26 < Arwen> and TTGL sucked
2008-04-01 13:26 < gwern> true cosplayers would make those themselves
2008-04-01 13:27 < gwern> kyorosuke: the sisters were useless characters, more or less
2008-04-01 13:27 < Arwen> dear god... not cosplay
2008-04-01 13:27 < gwern> and the ganmen was stupid!
2008-04-01 13:27 < Arwen> what about faces?
2008-04-01 13:27 < kyorosuke> that's the scary thing, I think they intend for people to just wear them like normal clothes
2008-04-01 13:27 < gwern> Arwen: I have no idea what TTGL was up to with the faces stuff
2008-04-01 13:28 < Arwen> err, lol @ the prices
2008-04-01 13:28 < Arwen> $350? $1000+?
2008-04-01 13:28 < kyorosuke> like, you wonder what to wear on your date and you think, "ah, Squall jacket!"
2008-04-01 13:28 < Arwen> for a velcro suit with stupid acrylic patterns?
2008-04-01 13:28 < kyorosuke> and then your date leaves
2008-04-01 13:28 < Arwen> gwern, hehe.
2008-04-01 13:28 < Arwen> Cartoons are for kids. Giant faces are cool. That's about all there is to it.
2008-04-01 13:29 < Leslie_S> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wheel_clamps_Texas.jpg
2008-04-01 13:29 < Leslie_S> LOL
2008-04-01 13:29 < gwern> kyorosuke: well, after you shell out a few hundred dollars for the gym membership do develop a squall physique, gotta show it off
2008-04-01 13:29 < kyorosuke> hah, true
2008-04-01 13:29 < Arwen> Leslie_S, I fail to see why that's funny
2008-04-01 13:29 < kyorosuke> and the Jacket will, because it will only cover HALF OF YOUR CHEST
2008-04-01 13:29 < OvrLrd-Q> that's alot of boots
2008-04-01 13:30 < Leslie_S> Arwen 6 cars with boots?
2008-04-01 13:30 < Leslie_S> all in a row?
2008-04-01 13:32 < gwern> kyorosuke: well of course. as lao tzu said, the utility of a pot comes from where it's *not*
2008-04-01 13:33 < Leslie_S> wtf is a squall physique?
2008-04-01 13:34 < kyorosuke> [[Squall Leonhart]] (sp?)
2008-04-01 13:34 < gwern> Leslie_S: have you ever seen a male Final Fantasy major character who didn't have a fangirl-wetdream-physique
2008-04-01 13:34 * gwern didn't think so
2008-04-01 13:34 < Leslie_S> gwern never looked
2008-04-01 13:35 < Leslie_S> ah, THAT. thats pretty sexy.
2008-04-01 13:35 < kyorosuke> Final Fantasy is all about the bishonen, yo
2008-04-01 13:35 < gwern> totally. although the female leads seem awfully popular as well
2008-04-01 13:36 < gwern> kind of hard to judge relative success given the absolute level of popularity of final fantasy
2008-04-01 13:36 < Axeman> aaaggh
2008-04-01 13:36 < Axeman> I think I've become a weeaboo
2008-04-01 13:37 < gwern> Axeman: yiff in hell then!
2008-04-01 13:37 < bishonen> [[Bishōnen]]. You pinged me!
2008-04-01 13:38 < gwern> bishonen: with a name like that, you're asking for't!
2008-04-01 13:38 < bishonen> wait till Bishzilla asks for it!
2008-04-01 13:39 < Leslie_S> whats the difference between undo and rollback?
2008-04-01 13:39 < bishonen> of course Bishzilla is too grand for #wikipedia nowadays. She mostly hangs out in the admin channel...
2008-04-01 13:39 < Leslie_S> i havent logged itno my admin account in years
2008-04-01 13:39 < bishonen> I feel like Frankenstein
2008-04-01 13:39 < Leslie_S> bishonen hey, i undeleted [[Wikipedia:Requests for wheels (on wheels)]] :D :D
2008-04-01 13:39 < bishonen> good good
2008-04-01 13:40 < bishonen> weren't there more wheels a year ago?
2008-04-01 13:40 < Axeman__> GOD DAMN IT
2008-04-01 13:40 < gwern> Leslie_S: rollback undos all revisions
2008-04-01 13:40 < Leslie_S> gwern undo doesnt
2008-04-01 13:40 < gwern> undo revert back exactly one diff, iirc
2008-04-01 13:40 < Leslie_S> ?
2008-04-01 13:41 < Leslie_S> ah..
2008-04-01 13:41 < gwern> Leslie_S: rollback is *all* consecutive revisions by the same editor; so most of the time, the difference is one click (since rollback you click once, but undo/revert you need to manually save)
2008-04-01 13:42 < Leslie_S> gwern i know what rollback is
2008-04-01 13:42 < Leslie_S> gwern i just have never seen undo before
2008-04-01 13:42 < Axeman___> I HATE THIS CRAPPY WI-FI
2008-04-01 13:42 < gwern> how could've you never seen undo before? it's been enabled for months and months
2008-04-01 13:43 < Leslie_S> gwern i havent used my admin account in a couple years...
2008-04-01 13:44 < gwern> Leslie_S: undo is for all confirmed editors, iirc
2008-04-01 13:45 < gwern> 'You have failed to consider the ramifications of the solutions and pose a problem that simply would not exist if you did. This taxes my patience, which is already legendary in its general absence. '
2008-04-01 13:47 < gwern> 'Norway did not even have a revolution at the time the rest of Europe was busy figuring out human rights and stuff, because we were busy fighting over how to spell it. '
2008-04-01 13:59 < Ceiling_Cat> INSUFFECIENT KATZ!
2008-04-01 13:59 < Cometstyles> try #wikimedia-cats :p
2008-04-01 14:01 < Ceiling_Cat> Topic is 'Adopt-A-Cat! | *WARNING: Insuffecient cats to complete channel*
2008-04-01 14:01 * Ceiling_Cat glues fur, whiskers, and a tail on Cometstyles
2008-04-01 14:01 * Ceiling_Cat huggles furry Cometstyles_cat
2008-04-01 14:01 < Cometstyles> O_O
2008-04-01 14:01 < Thehelpfulone2> lol - the channel guidelines are good XD
2008-04-01 14:02 < Ceiling_Cat> So netflix finally sent me the Imaginationland DVD
2008-04-01 14:02 < Ceiling_Cat> :)
2008-04-01 14:02 < Cometstyles> :D
2008-04-01 14:02 < Thehelpfulone2> :D
2008-04-01 14:02 < Thehelpfulone2> oh noes - it's Ops >)
2008-04-01 14:02 < Cometstyles> snowy? O_O
2008-04-01 14:02 < Thehelpfulone2> double ops ;/
2008-04-01 14:03 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat, did you see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Messedrocker
2008-04-01 14:03 < Cometstyles> yeah it was cool :P
2008-04-01 14:03 * Ceiling_Cat vandalizes it
2008-04-01 14:04 < Thehelpfulone2> lol
2008-04-01 14:05 < Ceiling_Cat> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
2008-04-01 14:05 * Ceiling_Cat snickers
2008-04-01 14:05 < Cometstyles> yeah XD
2008-04-01 14:06 < Ceiling_Cat> oh man
2008-04-01 14:06 < Ceiling_Cat> I really wish I could publicize some of the email I get as a press contacty
2008-04-01 14:06 < Ceiling_Cat> some of it is just... insanity
2008-04-01 14:06 < Ceiling_Cat> OTRS, in fact, has a bin to contain some of the better ones
2008-04-01 14:06 < Ceiling_Cat> "Strange stuff"
2008-04-01 14:07 < Cometstyles> :O
2008-04-01 14:08 < Cometstyles> jujube :DD
2008-04-01 14:08 < DannyLilithborne> could somebody watch over [[YTMND]]? i'm going to take a nap and tired of watching Internet morons get their panties in a twist
2008-04-01 14:08 < DannyLilithborne> frankly i wish the site really was closing
2008-04-01 14:08 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.starcraft2.com/features/terran/taurenmarine.xml
2008-04-01 14:08 < Ceiling_Cat> So Starcraft II is going to have Tauren marines
2008-04-01 14:09 < DannyLilithborne> heya Cometstyles
2008-04-01 14:09 < kenlyric> sure, whatever you say
2008-04-01 14:09 < Ceiling_Cat> (APRIL FOOLS!!!!!!)
2008-04-01 14:09 < Phoenix-wiki> Ceiling_Cat, have by any chance ever played AoE III?
2008-04-01 14:10 < gwern> 'Some might argue that you should always walk on the safe side of copyright, always have good margins and never get into trouble. However, there is no safe side. Even if Mark Twain died (in 1910) more than 70 years ago, and I publish his works in the best of faith, some person might turn up tomorrow and claim that their faith, some person might turn up tomorrow and claim that their Dutch grandfather who died only 65 years ago was ...
2008-04-01 14:10 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat, today i had to re-take a test because there were people in my class cheating
2008-04-01 14:10 < gwern> ... actually a secret co-author of that work, and that copyright in the Netherlands is still in force. You can never be completely safe.'
2008-04-01 14:10 < Messedrocker> the worst part was, it was not an april fools joke
2008-04-01 14:12 < DannyLilithborne> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:JuJube&diff=202610829&oldid=202610752
2008-04-01 14:12 < DannyLilithborne> beautiful
2008-04-01 14:14 < Scarian> Any Swedish speakers in here?
2008-04-01 14:14 < Phoenix-wiki> there's one in #wikia
2008-04-01 14:15 < Scarian> Phoenix-wiki: Who is it?
2008-04-01 14:15 < Phoenix-wiki> Jack_Phoenix
2008-04-01 14:16 < Cometstyles> Pho jack is finnish
2008-04-01 14:16 < Cometstyles> Phoenix-wiki, *
2008-04-01 14:16 < Phoenix-wiki> I know
2008-04-01 14:16 < Phoenix-wiki> but it says on his user page he cab speak Swedish
2008-04-01 14:16 < Phoenix-wiki> and a little bit of norwegian
2008-04-01 14:16 < Cometstyles> swedish probably Mbimmler :P
2008-04-01 14:17 < gwern> hey, all you native english speakers. If I used the word 'elan' in normal conversation, would you understand me? show of hands
2008-04-01 14:17 < Mbimmler> Switzerland != Sweden !! ;-)
2008-04-01 14:17 < snowolf> LOL
2008-04-01 14:17 < Cometstyles> Mbimmler, I know :P
2008-04-01 14:18 < Mbimmler> Cometstyles: ah okay. Sometimes I'm really not sure whether people are serious or joking about this..
2008-04-01 14:18 < Cometstyles> :P
2008-04-01 14:18 < Mbimmler> I was mistaken for a Swedish citizen too often...
2008-04-01 14:18 * gwern isn't seeing any replies. 'ELAN' MOFOS, DO YOU SPEAK IT? (if ( may paraphrase)
2008-04-01 14:18 < Cometstyles> must be your nose :P
2008-04-01 14:18 < snowolf> Mbimmler: I've seen once a document by a student organization that was reporting the list of other organizations that were present to a meeting and I found: Swatziland National Students' Union (Switzerland) LOL
2008-04-01 14:18 < ShakespeareFan00> Phoneix wiki
2008-04-01 14:19 < ShakespeareFan00> - Swedish is hard to learn is it not?
2008-04-01 14:19 < gwern> truly, it's not a hard question
2008-04-01 14:19 < Mbimmler> snowolf: lovely...
2008-04-01 14:19 < MonsterWeasel> Swedish has a peculiar phonology
2008-04-01 14:19 < gwern> how many people here have the english word 'elan' in their vocabs?
2008-04-01 14:19 < ShakespeareFan00> Any railnerds in?
2008-04-01 14:19 < snowolf> Italians sucks, you know :)
2008-04-01 14:19 < Arwen> wtf is a railnerd?
2008-04-01 14:19 < MonsterWeasel> it's a fairly common word in German
2008-04-01 14:19 < MonsterWeasel> Elan, I mean.
2008-04-01 14:19 < MonsterWeasel> as in "zest"
2008-04-01 14:20 < ShakespeareFan00> Arwen: Trainspoter, trainfan etc...
2008-04-01 14:20 < Arwen> oh, I interpreted that as "railgun" :\
2008-04-01 14:20 < gwern> ok, so that's one...
2008-04-01 14:20 < snowolf> Arwen: LOL
2008-04-01 14:21 < ShakespeareFan00> I am needing someone that knows the history of North London's railways in donkey leg removal detail :)
2008-04-01 14:24 < Cyrius> gwern: I thought I knew what it meant, but I was wrong
2008-04-01 14:25 < gwern> Cyrius: what did you think?
2008-04-01 14:25 < gwern> http://www.moneyfactory.gov/store/section.cfm/69 <-- these are so awesome
2008-04-01 14:25 < Cyrius> you're reading that reddit $2 bill story, aren't you
2008-04-01 14:26 < gwern> ...yes
2008-04-01 14:27 < gwern> Cyrius: the Woz story is hilarious
2008-04-01 14:33 < gwern> 'You know, if you fold $2 bills right and use them in a strip joint they look like $20's.' 'Why yes, I did.'
2008-04-01 14:34 < gwern> 'Paying strippers with Susan B Anthony dollars is funny, on a few levels actually.'
2008-04-01 14:34 < Messedrocker> hahahaha
2008-04-01 14:34 < Messedrocker> yeah
2008-04-01 14:35 < gwern> my god. our brains
2008-04-01 14:35 < gwern> they're made of meat!
2008-04-01 14:35 < gwern> meat and bone and other shit
2008-04-01 14:36 < gwern> the entire thing, plumb through
2008-04-01 14:39 < Cyrius> made of meat!
2008-04-01 14:40 < Messedrocker> man meat?
2008-04-01 14:40 < gwern> thinking meat!
2008-04-01 14:40 < gwern> your whole damn family is made of meat!
2008-04-01 14:41 < Cyrius> "Hillary Likens Herself to Rocky Balboa. Um, senator� Rocky lost. To the black guy."
2008-04-01 14:42 < gwern> yeah, but in Rocky 2 he won the next election
2008-04-01 14:42 < Cyrius> "In which she will beat the totalitarian, Aryan, hyper-muscular dude.
2008-04-01 14:42 < Cyrius> After they amend the constitution to allow him to run."
2008-04-01 14:43 < gwern> Cyrius: nice
2008-04-01 14:43 * gwern has only seen rocky 1. is that how the later movies go?
2008-04-01 14:44 < The359> Rocky 2 is a rematch of Rocky 1
2008-04-01 14:44 < Messedrocker> there's as many rocky movies as mega man games
2008-04-01 14:44 < Messedrocker> it's riddickalus
2008-04-01 14:44 < The359> Rocky 3 is Rocky losing and winning against another black guy
2008-04-01 14:44 < The359> Rocky 4 finally has some white on white violence
2008-04-01 14:45 < gwern> http://www.vgcats.com/ <-- honestly, does anyone find Ctrl-Alt-Delete funny?
2008-04-01 14:45 < OvrLrd-Q> ya
2008-04-01 14:45 * gwern stabbys
2008-04-01 14:46 * OvrLrd-Q stabs back
2008-04-01 14:47 * gwern disperses into the separate gwer - you can't know which one to stab
2008-04-01 15:27 < Starnestommy> is it just me, or is the link to the source code on http://stable.ts.wikimedia.org/wmfgcbot/?a=c insulting me?
2008-04-01 15:28 < Lycurgus> being insulted is always you isn't it?
2008-04-01 15:30 < NotACow> moo
2008-04-01 15:31 < Starnestommy> baa
2008-04-01 15:31 < Golbez> hey wtf
2008-04-01 15:31 < Golbez> you can no longer get directions from America to Europe on Google Maps
2008-04-01 15:31 < Golbez> It used to say "swim across the Atlantic" :(
2008-04-01 15:32 < Aqwis> google have gone total serious :|
2008-04-01 15:32 < Aqwis> they didn't even do anything today
2008-04-01 15:32 < The359> uh
2008-04-01 15:32 < Golbez> nope, nothing
2008-04-01 15:32 < The359> yes they did
2008-04-01 15:32 < Golbez> pff that's a lie and an hallucination
2008-04-01 15:32 < Golbez> in fact they did way too much this year =p usually it's one or two things, this year it seems every division got their own april fool's joke
2008-04-01 15:33 < kingturtle> gmorning
2008-04-01 15:33 < Golbez> My favorite is probably Adsense for Conversations
2008-04-01 15:33 < Golbez> What if I'm stretching and I hit an ad accidentally?
2008-04-01 15:33 < Golbez> We understand accidents may happen, and appreciate your concern. However, we recommend that publishers refrain from having conversations during yoga classes to prevent these types of accidental hits.
2008-04-01 15:33 < Aqwis> pfft
2008-04-01 15:33 < Aqwis> neither slashdot nor osnews covered them :<
2008-04-01 15:39 < Huntster> Golbez, that was cute, but the joint Google/Virgin Airlines gag featuring video interviews with both companies founders was...expansive...
2008-04-01 15:40 < Huntster> Though WoW's gag was more professional looking, I don't think Virgle is beatable this year.
2008-04-01 15:41 < Demi> "In 2015, Virgle Base 1 will be located on a dry, barren ridge overlooking a dry, barren plain. Two generations worth of terraforming from now, though, Virgle City will be a bustling port city overlooking a glistening blue bay. Be sure to reserve your hectare before the H20 starts condensing."
2008-04-01 15:42 < Huntster> I like how they even set up a YouTube channel for folks to submit video resumes
2008-04-01 15:43 < Huntster> (Now it will turn out this was serious and in a few years a massive colony ship actually does set off for Mars)
2008-04-01 15:44 < kenlyric> what about the Legend of Zelda movie trailor
2008-04-01 15:44 < kenlyric> *trailer
2008-04-01 15:45 < kenlyric> that was pretty well done too
2008-04-01 15:45 < Huntster> hmm, hadn't heard of that one.
2008-04-01 15:46 < Huntster> though everyone should immediately know that "Zelda movie" = "laughable prank"
2008-04-01 15:46 < kenlyric> http://movies.ign.com/dor/articles/863515/legend-of-zelda-movie-trailer/videos/legendofzelda_filmtrailer_040108.html
2008-04-01 15:51 < Demi> "Crew members will communicate with these machines via an auditory Holistic Artificial Language interface visually mediated by a glowing red light."
2008-04-01 16:00 < Demi> http://groups.google.com/group/virgle/msg/7eefc20e04b5c7bd
2008-04-01 16:01 < kingturtle> is april fools day over yet?
2008-04-01 16:01 < kingturtle> GMT?
2008-04-01 16:02 < The359> no
2008-04-01 16:02 < Demi> april's fools day is never really over
2008-04-01 16:04 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR KATZ!
2008-04-01 16:04 < Doc_glasgow> Hell no
2008-04-01 16:04 < Doc_glasgow> Too many cats
2008-04-01 16:05 < Doc_glasgow> Where are the canine wikipedians
2008-04-01 16:05 < Demi> well, you could start a trend by becoming "Dog_glasgow"
2008-04-01 16:06 < Doc_glasgow> or cod_wogsalg
2008-04-01 16:06 < NotACow> cod swallop
2008-04-01 16:06 < Doc_glasgow> Butt hat would not be canine, it would be aquatic
2008-04-01 16:09 < gwern> initiation never ends
2008-04-01 16:09 < gwern> Doc_glasgow: you might as well ask why there are so few dogs in anime
2008-04-01 16:16 < Demifish> that pasta salad was greatly improved by the addition of feta
2008-04-01 16:16 < Doc_glasgow> gwern: I might not, since I know nothing about "anime" - does it have cats?
2008-04-01 16:16 < Doc_glasgow> not tortoises?
2008-04-01 16:17 < Doc_glasgow> I prefer fish myself
2008-04-01 16:17 < gwern> Doc_glasgow: many.
2008-04-01 16:17 < Doc_glasgow> ah
2008-04-01 16:17 < Doc_glasgow> like Garfield?
2008-04-01 16:17 < Demifish> nothing but cats and catgirls in various combinations
2008-04-01 16:18 < Demifish> like "sexy cat" halloween costumes, cod_wogslag
2008-04-01 16:18 < gwern> one director has been called the Lone Dog of anime, simply because he uses dogs where others would default to cats
2008-04-01 16:18 < Doc_glasgow> I used to watch an animation called Topcat as a kid
2008-04-01 16:18 < Doc_glasgow> Then there's the aristocats
2008-04-01 16:19 < Doc_glasgow> I was going to mention the borrowers, but they were mice
2008-04-01 16:19 < Demifish> most anime is like the adventures of tin-tin, except a half-male/half-female raped everyone's mother with a nanotechnological orb of pure alienness and everyone has the resulting powers you would expect.
2008-04-01 16:19 < NotACow> http://areatracenosearch.blogspot.com/2008/03/yossarian.html <- heh
2008-04-01 16:19 < Doc_glasgow> Demifish: that is rather like tintin then
2008-04-01 16:20 < Doc_glasgow> But I must have missed that bot of tintin
2008-04-01 16:20 < Doc_glasgow> Al lI remember is the "blistering barnacles"
2008-04-01 16:21 < Demifish> in anime it's tentacles, but same deal
2008-04-01 16:21 < Doc_glasgow> And some half-crazed deverishs
2008-04-01 16:21 < Doc_glasgow> then I moved on to Asterix
2008-04-01 16:21 < Doc_glasgow> and that does have a dog
2008-04-01 16:21 < Doc_glasgow> no cats mind
2008-04-01 16:22 < Demifish> well, cats are not native to europe, and so can't be found in faithful historic renderings like asterix
2008-04-01 16:22 < Doc_glasgow> hm, Asterix was not faithful to history
2008-04-01 16:23 < Doc_glasgow> it has Julius Caesar as Emperor
2008-04-01 16:24 < Doc_glasgow> And it ha Egyptians, didn't they have cats??
2008-04-01 16:24 < Doc_glasgow> Cleocatra?
2008-04-01 16:24 < Demifish> africats, to be technical
2008-04-01 16:26 < noclip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Religion
2008-04-01 16:27 < noclip> yeah, sorry, but it's april 1
2008-04-01 16:27 < AzaTht> noclip: only the third point holds
2008-04-01 16:28 < Demifish> april fool or not: http://www.qsleeper.com/
2008-04-01 16:31 < AzaTht> Demifish: if it's american, probably not ツ
2008-04-01 16:34 < noclip> AzaTht: religion is verifiable?
2008-04-01 16:34 < AzaTht> noclip: meant the reverse
2008-04-01 16:42 < Juliancolton> Is anyone else getting wikipedia down?
2008-04-01 16:42 < snowolf> Juliancolton: working for me
2008-04-01 16:42 < Juliancolton> that's odd
2008-04-01 16:46 < AzaTht> ok, perhaps one level too much...
2008-04-01 16:46 < AzaTht> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Barneca/Requests_for_Jimboship/Barneca
2008-04-01 16:49 < snowolf> loooooooooooool
2008-04-01 16:57 < bibliomaniac15> Everyone's going berserk in Wikipedia, seeing that it's April Fools
2008-04-01 16:57 < Lycurgus> Juliancolton: look at the topic.
2008-04-01 16:58 < Lycurgus> if it wasn't so, someone would change it.
2008-04-01 16:59 < Juliancolton> If you people update the topic more often, I'd feel able to rely on it :P
2008-04-01 17:02 < The359> wtf
2008-04-01 17:02 < The359> We have a I'm Feeling Lucky button now?
2008-04-01 17:02 < Cyrius> people thinking they're funny
2008-04-01 17:02 < The359> someone edit the buttons?
2008-04-01 17:04 < Cyrius> AzaTht: cut it out!
2008-04-01 17:06 < bibliomaniac15> This year's main page isn't as good as last year's
2008-04-01 17:30 < fruitbag> Hey
2008-04-01 17:30 < Cream> hi fruitbag
2008-04-01 17:30 < fruitbag> Ah
2008-04-01 17:30 < fruitbag> Wikipedia is amongst my favourite websites
2008-04-01 17:30 < fruitbag> ...probably my most favourite
2008-04-01 17:30 < fruitbag> I don't like Knol
2008-04-01 17:31 < fruitbag> I'm sure there are measures Wikipedia could take to make articles more reliable without resorting to ads
2008-04-01 17:31 < fruitbag> Wikipedia is great
2008-04-01 17:31 < The359> what are you talking about?
2008-04-01 17:31 < fruitbag> Nice work, guys
2008-04-01 17:31 < fruitbag> The359: Knol is Google's answer to Wikipedia
2008-04-01 17:31 < The359> duh
2008-04-01 17:31 < The359> what are you talking about ads for
2008-04-01 17:31 < fruitbag> The359: Google Knol will have ads
2008-04-01 17:31 < Huntster> ads != reliability
2008-04-01 17:32 < The359> so?
2008-04-01 17:32 < fruitbag> Well, that's an aspect of Google Knol I wouldn't like.
2008-04-01 17:32 < fruitbag> Wikipedia can be made just as reliable by taking suitable measures.
2008-04-01 17:32 < OvrLrd-Q> wait what?
2008-04-01 17:32 < OvrLrd-Q> you're still not making any sense
2008-04-01 17:33 < fruitbag> You know, the guys at Wikipedia should establish a sector to deal with article reliability and vandalism.
2008-04-01 17:33 < Cream> well
2008-04-01 17:33 < Cream> actually
2008-04-01 17:33 < Cream> we can handle vandalism very well
2008-04-01 17:33 < fruitbag> OvrLrd-Q: why? Google Knol will contain ads. Why is that difficult to understand?
2008-04-01 17:33 < The359> Who cares if they have ads?
2008-04-01 17:33 < The359> It has no reflection on us
2008-04-01 17:33 < fruitbag> The359: I do
2008-04-01 17:33 < OvrLrd-Q> I'm still wondering what that has to do with anything
2008-04-01 17:34 < fruitbag> The359: I'm sure you wouldn't like ads when reading an article
2008-04-01 17:34 < Huntster> Yes, but what does having ads have to do with reliability?