freenode #wikipedia

2008-03-21 15:53 < Cyrius> I found out we had a wikipedia article with a citation for Obama writing it himself
2008-03-21 15:54 < mavhc> yes, but he might be a muslim
2008-03-21 15:54 < Cyrius> was that supposed to be funny in some way?
2008-03-21 15:54 < mavhc> or worse, a christian, but not one of those christians who just does flower arranging
2008-03-21 15:55 < shimgray> mavhc: he hates flowers! say it ain't so!
2008-03-21 15:59 * Calico_Cat is a cat
2008-03-21 15:59 * snowolf is a wolf
2008-03-21 16:00 * Working_Cat doesnt care
2008-03-21 16:00 * mavhc is a ...
2008-03-21 16:01 < Working_Cat> jerk?
2008-03-21 16:01 * mavhc is a mavhc
2008-03-21 16:02 < NotACow> moovhc
2008-03-21 16:03 < Leslie_S> ew, my aquarium filter is totally covered with fish poop
2008-03-21 16:03 < Leslie_S> and the incandescent lighting makes the temperature go up like 5 degrees in the day time..
2008-03-21 16:04 < NotACow> fish poop makes decent fertilizer
2008-03-21 16:04 < geniice> NotACow yes and no a little higher in amonia then you would idealy want
2008-03-21 16:05 < NotACow> geniice: could be useful especially if your soil is too acidic.
2008-03-21 16:05 < NotACow> geniice: and nitrogen is always a good thing
2008-03-21 16:06 < geniice> NotACow in reasonable amounts yes. Because fish don't bother to convert amonia to urea because they don't have to store it for any lenght of time
2008-03-21 16:07 < Leslie_S> NotACow the filter smells like dirt..lol.
2008-03-21 16:07 < Leslie_S> geniice oh, is that whats up with that? heh.
2008-03-21 16:08 < Leslie_S> geniice thank god for the nitrite cycle...
2008-03-21 16:09 < geniice> pretty much from what I remeber birds go to urea and humans to uric acid
2008-03-21 16:09 < Leslie_S> why do birds convert it? they dont store it for long.
2008-03-21 16:10 < geniice> store it long enough to be an issue
2008-03-21 16:10 < geniice> You do not want to hold ammonia for any longer than you have to
2008-03-21 16:11 < geniice> another gun pic
2008-03-21 16:11 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.5_cm_PaK_41
2008-03-21 16:11 < geniice> Advantage of current camera is I crop and still end up with a reasonably sized image
2008-03-21 16:21 < noclip> hmm
2008-03-21 16:21 < noclip> what happens if you don't activate a new credit card? does it not show up on your credit report as an opened account?
2008-03-21 16:23 < shimgray> Mike Godwin: "There are reasonable arguments to be made against advertising, but I don't think the "fork" argument holds any water. (I guess if it did that would make it a "spoon" argument.)"
2008-03-21 16:23 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects has got longer
2008-03-21 16:23 < geniice> shimgray I think he has a point
2008-03-21 16:26 < Working_Cat> later people
2008-03-21 16:33 < henke37> anyone have a script that automaticaly, recursivly, imports wikipedia templates and their images?
2008-03-21 16:34 < Mbimmler> our favorite Wikipedia reviewer (no, not one of the Brandt-guys) published a new book: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/books/review/Toibin-t.html?8bu&emc=bu
2008-03-21 16:34 < Messedrocker> hi bimmlo
2008-03-21 16:35 < Mbimmler> hi... ("bimmlo"? whatever...)
2008-03-21 16:45 < geniice> Mbimmler eh he's interested in presevation but needs to work more on the public acess side
2008-03-21 16:45 < Mbimmler> geniice: true. But I liked his NY Times review of Wikipedia...
2008-03-21 16:46 < geniice> Mbimmler preservation is the first step yes
2008-03-21 16:46 < Mbimmler> geniice: well, you can write him an email and try to convince him to promote Public Access
2008-03-21 16:47 < Mbimmler> he might even do it, now that he's finished his book
2008-03-21 16:47 < geniice> Mbimmler public acess would be more useful if they allowed photos
2008-03-21 16:48 < Mbimmler> "they"?
2008-03-21 16:49 < White_Cat_Zzz> Ceiling_Cat
2008-03-21 16:49 < White_Cat_Zzz> how is the watching?
2008-03-21 16:51 < geniice> Mbimmler biritish libiary certian museams etc
2008-03-21 16:51 < geniice> Mbimmler national trust
2008-03-21 16:51 < Mbimmler> geniice: ah, I see what you mean. Yes, indeed, this would be good...unfortunately they are restrictive here in CH as well...
2008-03-21 16:51 < Mbimmler> but we need targets for our evangelising
2008-03-21 16:53 < geniice> Mbimmler my objection to the national trust is not so much that they don't allow photos without permission but more that you can't get permission without being at least a mid level film company
2008-03-21 16:56 < Messedrocker> Mbimmler, is it true you speak 900 languages?
2008-03-21 16:56 < Mbimmler> Messedrocker: !?!
2008-03-21 16:56 < White_Cat_Zzz> "
2008-03-21 16:56 < Mbimmler> ...no
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2008-03-21 16:56 < Mbimmler> White_Cat_Zzz: ?
2008-03-21 16:56 < White_Cat_Zzz> "
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2008-03-21 16:56 < White_Cat_Zzz> "
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2008-03-21 16:57 < Martinp23> Sorry :)
2008-03-21 16:57 < Martinp23> White_Cat_Zzz: PM me when you've finished
2008-03-21 16:57 < Mbimmler> Messedrocker: you must be confusing me with someone...or how comes you think?
2008-03-21 16:58 < White_Cat_Zzz> hah
2008-03-21 16:59 < White_Cat_Zzz> my cat can disrupt channels
2008-03-21 16:59 < White_Cat_Zzz> :P
2008-03-21 16:59 < Messedrocker> but seriously Mbimmler can't you speak 4 language?
2008-03-21 17:00 < Mbimmler> Messedrocker: German, English, French, (Latin), and if I concentrate, I can grasp some Italian and Spanish (by comparing to Latin/French), but I can't write the last two
2008-03-21 17:00 < Mbimmler> so, really nothing our of the extraordinary there
2008-03-21 17:00 < Mbimmler> though I'd like to speak some more
2008-03-21 17:23 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-21 17:25 < Scream> how many cats do you have?
2008-03-21 17:25 < Ceiling_Cat> Not enough
2008-03-21 17:25 < Ceiling_Cat> Dinner - BBL
2008-03-21 17:25 < Ryanposs> Ceiling_Cat: Did you ever get one of those ugly hairless cats?
2008-03-21 17:26 < Schrodinger_Cat> Hmmm, does anyone know why White_Cat was banned?
2008-03-21 17:27 * Schrodinger_Cat asks out of curiosity
2008-03-21 17:27 < Ryanposs> Schrodinger_Cat: He was very abusive
2008-03-21 17:27 < Ryanposs> (his cat walked over his keyboard and flooded!!!!)
2008-03-21 17:27 < Schrodinger_Cat> Oops.
2008-03-21 17:27 < Ryanposs> quite funny if you ask me
2008-03-21 17:27 < White_Cat_Zzz> Ryan_Taylor
2008-03-21 17:27 < White_Cat_Zzz> ack
2008-03-21 17:27 < White_Cat_Zzz> misfiered
2008-03-21 17:27 < White_Cat_Zzz> Ryanposs
2008-03-21 17:27 < White_Cat_Zzz> around and about?
2008-03-21 17:27 < Ryanposs> yeah
2008-03-21 17:28 < White_Cat_Zzz> have you checked the mailing list?
2008-03-21 17:28 * Schrodinger_Cat just got back from a very enjoyable session with SS Brawl.
2008-03-21 17:28 < Ryanposs> White_Cat_Zzz: can you link?
2008-03-21 17:28 < White_Cat_Zzz> to the mailinglist?
2008-03-21 17:28 < White_Cat_Zzz> I would not know how
2008-03-21 17:28 < White_Cat_Zzz> perhaps you mean an archive?
2008-03-21 17:29 < Schrodinger_Cat> Isn't there an archive site?
2008-03-21 17:29 < Ryanposs> White_Cat_Zzz: yeah the archive
2008-03-21 17:30 < Ryanposs> White_Cat_Zzz: What's on it?
2008-03-21 17:30 < Ryanposs> I'll go and find it
2008-03-21 17:31 < White_Cat_Zzz> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/htdig/wikien-l/2008-March/092362.html
2008-03-21 17:31 < White_Cat_Zzz> note to self
2008-03-21 17:31 < White_Cat_Zzz> never look for a 2008 post in October 2006
2008-03-21 17:36 < Messedrocker> hmmmm
2008-03-21 17:36 < Messedrocker> if i eliminated my windows partition on here, that'd free up 15GB of space
2008-03-21 17:36 < Messedrocker> giving me 23GB free space
2008-03-21 17:37 < ViciousGu> Hi
2008-03-21 17:39 < Schrodinger_Cat> Messedrocker: Running out of space on the Linux side of the drive?
2008-03-21 17:39 < Schrodinger_Cat> Hello, ViciousGu
2008-03-21 17:40 < Messedrocker> Schrodinger_Cat, Mac, not Linux
2008-03-21 17:40 < Messedrocker> and you could say that having only 8GB of space left is "running out"
2008-03-21 17:40 < Messedrocker> but i am fine with it
2008-03-21 17:41 < ViciousGu> Anyway, is it fair to characterize the civility policies across the different language Wikipedias as mostly the same?
2008-03-21 17:46 < Messedrocker> http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/uploaded_images/DB3081-702947.JPG
2008-03-21 17:47 < Messedrocker> oompa loompa doopity do
2008-03-21 17:47 < Messedrocker> i got another puzzle for you
2008-03-21 17:47 < The359> she's but not
2008-03-21 17:47 < The359> erm...
2008-03-21 17:47 < The359> she's not hot
2008-03-21 17:48 < Messedrocker> well the point of me linking was to show you what an aged guido looks like
2008-03-21 17:48 < The359> I know
2008-03-21 17:52 < Schrodinger_Cat> Messedrocker: Having only 8GB left is "running out", given that your swap space is probably 2GB...
2008-03-21 17:52 < Messedrocker> except i have no need for more space
2008-03-21 17:53 < Messedrocker> not substantially more, anyway
2008-03-21 17:53 < Messedrocker> http://stores.channeladvisor.com/computer-memory-electronics/items/item.aspx?itemid=2003784 << whoaz
2008-03-21 17:54 < Messedrocker> 80GB... vs. 250GB...
2008-03-21 18:05 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-21 18:05 < tonyb486> moar catz = less cheezburgers
2008-03-21 18:06 < tonyb486> they eat all of them!
2008-03-21 18:12 * Ceiling_Cat facehuggles tonyb486
2008-03-21 18:13 < tonyb486> get it off me!
2008-03-21 18:13 < tonyb486> ahrsa
2008-03-21 18:13 * nsh macefuggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-03-21 18:15 < Lucifer_Cat> meow
2008-03-21 18:15 < Lucifer_Cat> thats a legal bot or a spam one?
2008-03-21 18:16 < snowolf> Lucifer_Cat: what bot?
2008-03-21 18:16 < Lucifer_Cat> hmmm... i said meow... and someone posted an ascii cat
2008-03-21 18:17 < snowolf> Lucifer_Cat: you sure?
2008-03-21 18:17 < Lucifer_Cat> *denelson83*
2008-03-21 18:17 < Lucifer_Cat> /\_/\
2008-03-21 18:17 < Lucifer_Cat> ( o.o )
2008-03-21 18:17 < snowolf> I'm not seeing anything
2008-03-21 18:17 < Lucifer_Cat> > ^ <
2008-03-21 18:17 < Rinn> I think you're seeing things.
2008-03-21 18:17 < snowolf> indeed
2008-03-21 18:17 < snowolf> that's my impression too
2008-03-21 18:17 < snowolf> maybe a notice?
2008-03-21 18:17 < Lucifer_Cat> very funny. i think its one of those msgs... like you get from nickserv
2008-03-21 18:17 < Rinn> meow
2008-03-21 18:17 < Rinn> Yeah, it's a notice.
2008-03-21 18:17 < snowolf> meow
2008-03-21 18:18 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah a notice. thats the name.
2008-03-21 18:18 * Lucifer_Cat shows off his fully functional cloak to whoever cares to look
2008-03-21 18:19 < NotASpy> meow
2008-03-21 18:19 < FastLizard4> o_O
2008-03-21 18:19 < FastLizard4> meow?
2008-03-21 18:19 < FastLizard4> meow
2008-03-21 18:19 < Lucifer_Cat> hey Enterprise cat
2008-03-21 18:19 < Lucifer_Cat> meow
2008-03-21 18:19 * FastLizard4 sees cloak
2008-03-21 18:19 < FastLizard4> meow
2008-03-21 18:19 < FastLizard4> meow!
2008-03-21 18:19 < Lucifer_Cat> meow!
2008-03-21 18:19 < Arwen> the problem with FreeNode IRC is that there's no way to make ChanServ remotely kickban someone
2008-03-21 18:19 < Rinn> Can you get floodkicked for notices?
2008-03-21 18:19 < Arwen> you have to actually be in the channel
2008-03-21 18:20 < Martinp23> meow
2008-03-21 18:20 < Lucifer_Cat> hah nice one Rinn
2008-03-21 18:20 < Arwen> so, what are you gonna do if there's an op conflict?
2008-03-21 18:20 < Martinp23> ?
2008-03-21 18:20 < Lucifer_Cat> yes Martinp23
2008-03-21 18:20 < FastLizard4> Arwen: Remotely deop them, then activate CLEAR OPS on ChanServ
2008-03-21 18:21 < Arwen> but then they'll just re-op themselves
2008-03-21 18:23 < Arwen> also, FreeNode is missing a way to enforce akicks..
2008-03-21 18:23 < pill> Arwen: remove them from the access list ...
2008-03-21 18:23 < Arwen> pill, you can't if you're equal in access...
2008-03-21 18:23 < pill> so ask someone with a higher access level to do so ...
2008-03-21 18:24 < Arwen> but they might not be back for a while
2008-03-21 18:24 < Arwen> during which time said user would be running the channel
2008-03-21 18:24 < pill> so ask them for granting other ops a higher access level.
2008-03-21 18:24 < Lucifer_Cat> Arwen: stop the depressing convo
2008-03-21 18:24 < Arwen> pill, then those ops would be prone to abuse
2008-03-21 18:25 < pill> there's no solution to your problem if you don't trust anyone :)
2008-03-21 18:25 < Arwen> the solution is to allow remote kicks/bans...
2008-03-21 18:25 < Arwen> and automatic enforcing of akicks
2008-03-21 18:25 < FastLizard4> Arwen: Use akick
2008-03-21 18:25 < FastLizard4> autorem actually
2008-03-21 18:25 < Arwen> akick won't get rid of em
2008-03-21 18:26 < Arwen> you have to kick them first
2008-03-21 18:26 < FastLizard4> Yes it will
2008-03-21 18:26 < trust> :o
2008-03-21 18:26 < Arwen> which you can't do if they rapidly kick you with clones to prevent you from entering
2008-03-21 18:26 < FastLizard4> Oh, never mind
2008-03-21 18:26 * Lucifer_Cat can very easily see Arwen arguing endlessly about 3 way handshakes and encryption "But this just is wide open to errors"
2008-03-21 18:26 < FastLizard4> Arwen: Do you have CMDCLEAR access?
2008-03-21 18:26 < Arwen> it's all theoretical >_>
2008-03-21 18:27 < Arwen> and if I did and the other guy had the same access, he could do the same
2008-03-21 18:27 < FastLizard4> Arwen: As a last resort, execute this command:
2008-03-21 18:27 < Lucifer_Cat> Alt + F4?
2008-03-21 18:27 < FastLizard4> /msg ChanServ CLEAR <channel> USERS
2008-03-21 18:28 < FastLizard4> Arwen: What channel is this in?
2008-03-21 18:28 < Lucifer_Cat> FastLizard4: its all hypothetical
2008-03-21 18:28 < Lucifer_Cat> Arwen's case
2008-03-21 18:28 < pill> completely ...
2008-03-21 18:28 < FastLizard4> Oh
2008-03-21 18:28 < Arwen> if you use /cs clear, they can just rejoin
2008-03-21 18:29 < FastLizard4> Arwen: No
2008-03-21 18:29 < Arwen> and it causes other issues
2008-03-21 18:29 < FastLizard4> It automatically sets +i
2008-03-21 18:29 < Arwen> then they can pre-emptively invite themselves
2008-03-21 18:29 < Arwen> and add ban exempts
2008-03-21 18:29 < Arwen> because they were in first
2008-03-21 18:29 < pill> sure ...
2008-03-21 18:29 < GoldFlower> what are we talking about?
2008-03-21 18:29 < Lucifer_Cat> btw LOL++ at the link in the topic
2008-03-21 18:30 < pill> dunno ...
2008-03-21 18:30 < GoldFlower> Hey, Profoss!!!
2008-03-21 18:30 < Arwen> why FreeNode should let you do /cs kick user
2008-03-21 18:30 < Profoss> hi :)
2008-03-21 18:30 < Arwen> then if there's op issues, you could just have a guy rapidly do that
2008-03-21 18:30 < FastLizard4> Arwen: There is also /cs op
2008-03-21 18:30 < GoldFlower> Profoss...er
2008-03-21 18:31 < GoldFlower> It's spelt wrong >:(
2008-03-21 18:31 < Arwen> FastLizard4, but they can use clones to make it really hard to deop all of em at once
2008-03-21 18:31 < pill> Arwen: best solution is to ask people in charge to not grant op status to people they don't really trust ...
2008-03-21 18:31 < trust> :o
2008-03-21 18:31 < FastLizard4> omg
2008-03-21 18:31 < GoldFlower> who woulda thunk it
2008-03-21 18:31 < FastLizard4> In God We Trust, after all, we store are money in trust funds and give it to people we trust...
2008-03-21 18:32 < pill> Arwen: they could find out the password of the channel contact and drop the channel.
2008-03-21 18:32 < trust> :o
2008-03-21 18:32 < GoldFlower> Who thinks that they are so awesome
2008-03-21 18:32 < Arwen> pill, if you drop the channel, that lets whoever's in charge at the moment claim it
2008-03-21 18:33 < pill> well, they have bots that immediately register it ...
2008-03-21 18:33 < GoldFlower> snowbot
2008-03-21 18:33 < GoldFlower> ???
2008-03-21 18:33 < snowolf> yes?
2008-03-21 18:33 < GoldFlower> i thought there was some bot called snowbot that insulted people
2008-03-21 18:34 < GoldFlower> hehe, im having a google talk convo and an IRC Java Applet
2008-03-21 18:34 < snowolf> I have a snowbot onwiki, not on irc
2008-03-21 18:34 < snowolf> so no idea
2008-03-21 18:34 < GoldFlower> :*
2008-03-21 18:35 < GoldFlower> I'm heading over to #wikipedia_social
2008-03-21 18:36 < Leslie_S> is 80 proof alcohol flammable?
2008-03-21 18:36 < Lucifer_Cat> very much?
2008-03-21 18:36 < Leslie_S> well i thought it had to be more than 100 proof to be flammable
2008-03-21 18:39 < FastLizard4> Is 16M benzeine flammable?
2008-03-21 18:40 < nsh> wtf
2008-03-21 18:40 < nsh> is #wikipedia just for antisocialness, then?
2008-03-21 18:41 < Leslie_S> nsh yes.
2008-03-21 18:41 < Leslie_S> nsh dont you remember a while back when they tried to ban socializing here? and at the same time, they tried to ban talking about wikipedia. and several people like sfan00 were bitching at people for not following such rules, and so youd get yelled at for saying ANYTHING here....
2008-03-21 18:43 < Lucifer_Cat> ahh.. the good old times
2008-03-21 18:51 < Schrodinger_Cat> Quick poll: Which nick do you think is better - quanticle, or Schrodinger_Cat?
2008-03-21 18:52 < Enterprise_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat:
2008-03-21 18:59 < Lucifer_Cat> anything catty is good...but quanticle is l'original
2008-03-21 19:00 < Schrodinger_Cat> Yeah. To fit in, or to be original - that is the dilemma
2008-03-21 19:02 < Enterprise_Cat> Hello SGTex
2008-03-21 19:02 < SGTex> Hi
2008-03-21 19:03 * Lucifer_Cat beats conformity in to Schrodinger_Cat ... confirm goddamnit
2008-03-21 19:04 < Lucifer_Cat> oh wait... i was supposed to do that to quanticle
2008-03-21 19:06 < NotACow> marp!
2008-03-21 19:07 < Enterprise_Cat> !parm?
2008-03-21 19:07 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.myextralife.com/archive.php?date=2008-02-29
2008-03-21 19:08 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.myextralife.com/archive.php?date=2008-02-18
2008-03-21 19:10 < NotACow> bmeep
2008-03-21 19:17 < Lucifer_Cat> cnffq
2008-03-21 19:20 < Schrodinger_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: Its Portal: Mario Edition
2008-03-21 19:21 * Lucifer_Cat knoes
2008-03-21 19:22 * Enterprise_Cat notes Lucifer_Cat can't spell
2008-03-21 19:23 * Lucifer_Cat can spell czechoslovakia correctly without using a spell check.
2008-03-21 19:24 < Lucifer_Cat> not only that, he can also pronounce it without accent.
2008-03-21 19:29 < parent5446> Just as a notice, there is an important discussion going on at Talk:List of Avatar: The Last Airbender secondary recurring characters/Qualifications about which characters in the List of Avatar: The Last Airbender secondary recurring characters article are notable enough to be included. There are currently only three people participating, and it would be appreciated if anybody who knows...
2008-03-21 19:29 < parent5446> ...about the show made a comment or two in order to help determine consensus.
2008-03-21 19:31 < mavhc> is that the thing the TRS guys are always on about?
2008-03-21 19:33 < Schrodinger_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: http://www.myextralife.com/archive.php?date=2003-01-10
2008-03-21 19:33 < Lucifer_Cat> hahaha cruel joke (but maybe thats just me)
2008-03-21 19:35 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.myextralife.com/archive.php?date=2008-02-06
2008-03-21 19:35 < Lucifer_Cat> i have this convo with myself every day
2008-03-21 19:35 < Lucifer_Cat> so far the "no ure not buying" part is winning, thanks to no $
2008-03-21 19:47 < Enterprise_Cat> Who knows the interwiki code for the labs?
2008-03-21 19:49 < NotACow> ZULU!
2008-03-21 19:50 < geniice> Enterprise_Cat labs?
2008-03-21 19:50 < Enterprise_Cat> en.labs.wikimedia.org
2008-03-21 19:50 < NotACow> check the sitematrix
2008-03-21 19:51 < NotACow> http://www.abyssandapex.com/200710-wikihistory.html
2008-03-21 19:51 < NotACow> erp
2008-03-21 19:51 < NotACow> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=sitematrix
2008-03-21 19:51 < NotACow> there is no interwiki code for en.labs.wikimedia.org, since it does not appear in the sitematrix
2008-03-21 19:53 < geniice> Walden International ring any bells?
2008-03-21 19:55 < Lucifer_Cat> geniice: no
2008-03-21 19:56 < geniice> hmm
2008-03-21 20:00 < Lucifer_Cat> hey dont listen to me. im new
2008-03-21 20:01 < snowolf> en.labs? never heard of it before /me curious
2008-03-21 20:01 < geniice> so we have an accountant
2008-03-21 20:01 < geniice> progress
2008-03-21 20:03 < mexicanbanana> Wait... there's other taxes than income tax?
2008-03-21 20:04 < The359> Sales tax
2008-03-21 20:04 < mexicanbanana> Hmm...
2008-03-21 20:05 < mexicanbanana> In a The Twilight Zone episode, somebody goes back in time where there is no income tax in the USA.
2008-03-21 20:05 < mexicanbanana> What made them introduce it?
2008-03-21 20:05 < Lucifer_Cat> im sure there has always been income tax
2008-03-21 20:05 < Messedrocker> income tax was introduced during World War I i believe
2008-03-21 20:06 < Lucifer_Cat> also, mexicanbanana, you 'learn' way too much from Twilight Zone
2008-03-21 20:06 < Lucifer_Cat> i thought brits always had some taxation policy
2008-03-21 20:06 < Lucifer_Cat> i know they taxed the shit outta indians
2008-03-21 20:06 < mexicanbanana> The Twilight Zone has pretty accurate historical facts.
2008-03-21 20:07 < mexicanbanana> The supernatural things are quite obvious.
2008-03-21 20:07 < mexicanbanana> Or speculations about the future.
2008-03-21 20:07 < Lucifer_Cat> like people paying 500 out of their pockets?
2008-03-21 20:07 < mexicanbanana> Yes... that does bug me.
2008-03-21 20:07 < mexicanbanana> I still can't get over it.
2008-03-21 20:08 < mexicanbanana> Income tax is more evil than I can put words on.
2008-03-21 20:08 < mexicanbanana> You have to be punished for making money.
2008-03-21 20:09 < Lucifer_Cat> it has its uses/reasons
2008-03-21 20:11 * Lucifer|Away is out
2008-03-21 20:22 < PeanutHorst> WOOOOOO everyone congratulate me
2008-03-21 20:23 < The359> no
2008-03-21 20:23 < Enterprise_Cat> Why?
2008-03-21 20:23 < PeanutHorst> i just made my first contribution to the commons
2008-03-21 20:23 < Enterprise_Cat> o_o
2008-03-21 20:23 < PeanutHorst> it's a huge photo of a noteworthy ship. 8000px*6000px
2008-03-21 20:23 < The359> that's it?
2008-03-21 20:24 < PeanutHorst> The359: yeah, pretty much. a big-ass photo of a big-ass ship
2008-03-21 20:24 < NotASpy> PeanutHorst: what camera ?
2008-03-21 20:24 < PeanutHorst> NotASpy: Nikon FM-2/T
2008-03-21 20:24 < PeanutHorst> film camera ;D
2008-03-21 20:25 < NotASpy> what size of file ?
2008-03-21 20:28 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched "Notable Things" section...
2008-03-21 20:29 < PeanutHorst> NotASpy: just over 5MB
2008-03-21 20:29 < PeanutHorst> thanks to jpegoptim
2008-03-21 20:30 < NotASpy> hmm, that's not bad at all for an 8000px by 6000px image.
2008-03-21 20:31 < PeanutHorst> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:MS_Queen_Victoria_2008.jpg
2008-03-21 20:31 < AwesomeGuy`> uh, whats that thing under there?
2008-03-21 20:33 < snowolf> meow
2008-03-21 20:33 < Rinn> meow
2008-03-21 20:33 < Rinn> :(
2008-03-21 20:34 < denelson83> Bad script! Bad script! KILL! KILL!
2008-03-21 20:35 < PeanutHorst> faster pussycat, kill, kill?
2008-03-21 20:35 < NotACow> CESSPOOLS
2008-03-21 20:36 < NotACow> UPGRADE YOUR PUSSYCAT TODAY
2008-03-21 20:36 < Messedrocker> NotACow, I already bought the Turbo upgrade from you for $179.99 and my cat is no better
2008-03-21 20:37 < NotASpy> PLZ CAN I HAS UPGRADE ?
2008-03-21 20:37 < NotACow> Messedrocker: did you remember to use virgin goat blood during the installation process?
2008-03-21 20:38 < Messedrocker> yes, in fact, i bought Kelly Martin's Old-Fashioned® Virgin Goat Blood
2008-03-21 20:58 < Leslie_S> NotACow hey you.
2008-03-21 20:58 < Leslie_S> NotACow what are some good cocktails besides margaritas with tequila? :o
2008-03-21 21:05 < NotACow> Leslie_S: "margaritas with tequila" is redundant
2008-03-21 21:05 < NotACow> Leslie_S: manhattans are good. also algonquins, although you will find few bartenders who know what one is
2008-03-21 21:05 < NotACow> Leslie_S: lee likes sidecars and salty dogs
2008-03-21 21:06 < NotACow> Leslie_S: i am fond of martinis (but only when made properly), and of pink gin
2008-03-21 21:06 < NotACow> rob roys aren't bad
2008-03-21 21:06 < NotACow> rusty nails
2008-03-21 21:06 * Mike_H prances around the streets of Minneapolis
2008-03-21 21:06 * Mike_H throws NotACow's beret in the air
2008-03-21 21:07 < NotACow> so, why do CMOS digital integrated circuits have high immunity to noise on the input signal or power supply?
2008-03-21 21:08 < Messedrocker> what's that name of that drink made from bar rag absorptions?
2008-03-21 21:08 < Messedrocker> new jersey turnpike special or something like that
2008-03-21 21:11 < NotACow> Messedrocker: can't be, new jersey smells MUCH worse than that
2008-03-21 21:13 < Messedrocker> i live in new jersey and it doesn't smell bad at all. maybe because i am accustomed to it
2008-03-21 21:13 < Messedrocker> though i remember driving through jersey city and that smelled awful
2008-03-21 21:13 < bumm13> Jersey City is a hole
2008-03-21 21:13 * Messedrocker lives in the nice part of new jersey
2008-03-21 21:13 < bumm13> (from all accounts I know of)
2008-03-21 21:14 < bumm13> much of NE New Jersey is a hole
2008-03-21 21:14 < bumm13> although more affluent towards Hackensack and that area, I think
2008-03-21 21:14 < Messedrocker> i am in that area
2008-03-21 21:14 < bumm13> ahh
2008-03-21 21:16 < Messedrocker> i once drove through irvington
2008-03-21 21:16 < Messedrocker> uuuugh
2008-03-21 21:16 < NotACow> PRESIDENT BUSH HAVE A HOT DOG WITH ME
2008-03-21 21:17 * bumm13 NP: Freddy Cannon - Palisades Park (1962)
2008-03-21 21:32 < NotACow> if water is so damn precious, why do we let fish poop in it?
2008-03-21 21:33 < Messedrocker> we can filter their poop
2008-03-21 21:34 < NotACow> and use it as fertilizer
2008-03-21 21:34 < stylus> there's lots of nutrients in it, as well
2008-03-21 21:34 < stylus> helps the plants to grow and stuff
2008-03-21 21:43 < geniice> we had this conversation some hours ago
2008-03-21 21:45 < NotACow> geniice: i remember
2008-03-21 21:46 < Lycurgus> me too. It was the thing going on last I checked here and now again.
2008-03-21 21:46 < Lycurgus> how bout that?
2008-03-21 22:08 < miranda> do you think it is stupid for a new user to file a checkuser case in order to prove their innocence?
2008-03-21 22:08 < miranda> and how would a new user know what an RFCU and RFC is?
2008-03-21 23:04 < AppleBoy> apple is by far the coolest company ever when it comes to repairs
2008-03-21 23:05 < AppleBoy> my superdrive couldn't burn cd's or dvd's anymore, although I think it might've been my fault from dropping it one too many times >.< so they replaced it and put on a new cover that wasn't dinged up for free in 5 hours :)
2008-03-21 23:05 < Manticore> zomgping
2008-03-21 23:06 < The359> but what if you liked the dinged up cover because it had character?
2008-03-21 23:06 < AppleBoy> dunno, I hated it
2008-03-21 23:07 < AppleBoy> it stuck up at just the right angle and kept stabbing my wrist
2008-03-21 23:07 < AppleBoy> and it was dirty as hell and wouldn't clean
2008-03-21 23:08 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-03-21 23:09 < AppleBoy> oh, and they did it for free :)
2008-03-21 23:11 < Leslie_S> AppleBoy whats a superdrive cost?
2008-03-21 23:12 < AppleBoy> 100 bucks I think?
2008-03-21 23:13 < Leslie_S> ow
2008-03-21 23:13 < Leslie_S> im just wondering
2008-03-21 23:14 < AppleBoy> more like 135 it seems from ebay
2008-03-21 23:18 < Werdna> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Linkhere&action=edit
2008-03-21 23:18 < Werdna> blank kthx
2008-03-21 23:19 * Leslie_S shakes another margarita
2008-03-21 23:21 < Alkivar> this is quite possibly the most unique way to dj i've seen yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=088AWsTtTFU
2008-03-21 23:24 < Alkivar> dude is scratching with cassette tapes
2008-03-21 23:51 < Lucifer_Cat> hey people
2008-03-21 23:53 < Lucifer_Cat> meow
2008-03-21 23:56 < Lucifer_Cat> meow?
2008-03-21 23:57 < DragonFire1024> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUm5VVrncDs
2008-03-21 23:59 < Lucifer_Cat> lol awesome
2008-03-22 00:01 < denelson83> Lucifer_Cat: Was told to stop
2008-03-22 00:01 < Lucifer_Cat> pardon?
2008-03-22 00:01 < Lucifer_Cat> oh the kitty thing
2008-03-22 00:01 < denelson83> [21:56:58] <Lucifer_Cat> meow?
2008-03-22 00:01 < denelson83> Yes, that
2008-03-22 00:02 * denelson83 suggests to Huntster to get a better 'Net connection
2008-03-22 00:02 < Lucifer_Cat> the "meow?" was more like "anyone?"
2008-03-22 00:02 < denelson83> ah
2008-03-22 00:02 < denelson83> You were CQ'ing
2008-03-22 00:02 < Lucifer_Cat> denelson83: no hard feelings bro, i just reported the kitty cuz i thought it was a bot
2008-03-22 00:02 < Lucifer_Cat> it was pretty cool though. use it in moderation, it will be nice.
2008-03-22 00:03 < denelson83> Not a bot, just a script I wrote a few years ago
2008-03-22 00:03 < Lucifer_Cat> whats CQ'ing?
2008-03-22 00:03 < denelson83> [[CQ (call)]]
2008-03-22 00:06 < Lucifer_Cat> ahhh... nice use of radio terms.
2008-03-22 00:06 < Lucifer_Cat> yes i was CQing :D
2008-03-22 00:07 < denelson83> ;)
2008-03-22 00:08 < Lucifer_Cat> fucking Titanic. got totaled on the first drive.
2008-03-22 00:08 < denelson83> outburst
2008-03-22 00:09 < denelson83> I guess the Titanic was the first example of something called "EPIC FAIL"
2008-03-22 00:10 < Lucifer_Cat> denelson83: one of the prime examples: very much. first... i very much doubt.
2008-03-22 00:10 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.fanboys-online.com/index.php?comic=207
2008-03-22 00:11 < Lucifer_Cat> Troy was a real epic fail.
2008-03-22 00:11 < Lucifer_Cat> so was rome later on
2008-03-22 00:12 < denelson83> That link has nothing to do with epic fail
2008-03-22 00:12 < Werdna> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Werdna/restore_kthx
2008-03-22 00:12 < denelson83> Werdna: And so?
2008-03-22 00:12 < Werdna> and this time, I'll try to not leave them in the last version, which was {{db-owner}}, and thus they were deleted five minutes later
2008-03-22 00:13 < Werdna> an epic fail if I've ever seen one.
2008-03-22 00:13 < denelson83> Oh, okay
2008-03-22 00:13 < denelson83> Too bad there's no [[epic fail]]
2008-03-22 00:13 < Kamping_Kaiser> get on with it :p
2008-03-22 00:13 < denelson83> Now there is
2008-03-22 00:16 < Lucifer_Cat> CSD?
2008-03-22 00:17 < Lucifer_Cat> you just redirected it to failure
2008-03-22 00:18 < AppleBoy> oh shit this center channel of mine is awesome
2008-03-22 00:19 < AppleBoy> currently as my right channel but it's currently my only speaker :/
2008-03-22 00:30 < BoL> bye everyone!
2008-03-22 00:33 < FastLizard4|Food> meow
2008-03-22 00:33 < Buffalosoldier92> Congrats to Apple`
2008-03-22 00:33 < AppleBoy> why thank you
2008-03-22 00:33 < AppleBoy> http://globulation2.org/colt.jpg
2008-03-22 00:33 < Buffalosoldier92> lol
2008-03-22 00:33 < AppleBoy> that's the new baby
2008-03-22 00:33 < FastLizard4|Food> Hello ugen64
2008-03-22 00:33 < ugen64> hey
2008-03-22 00:34 < ugen64> argh, i should have eaten more before going out :(
2008-03-22 00:34 < FastLizard4|Food> lol! X-D
2008-03-22 00:35 < FastLizard4|Food> {#wikimedia-ops} [21:32:38] <AntiSpamMeta> Debug risk threat [#wikipedia-en]: NotACow - levenshtein flood match;
2008-03-22 00:35 < Buffalosoldier92> 'tis a horse
2008-03-22 00:35 < Buffalosoldier92> nice.
2008-03-22 00:37 < AppleBoy> well, nobody updated the topic yet :/
2008-03-22 00:41 < FastLizard4|Food> AppleBoy: What should I put in the topic?
2008-03-22 00:42 < FastLizard4|Food> !ping AppleBoy
2008-03-22 00:42 < AppleBoy> hey
2008-03-22 00:42 < FastLizard4|Food> AppleBoy: Is there something I should put in the channel topic?
2008-03-22 00:43 < AppleBoy> Apple` should be AppleBoy
2008-03-22 00:43 < FastLizard4|Food> I don't trust you on that
2008-03-22 00:43 < FastLizard4|Food> [citation needed]
2008-03-22 00:43 < AppleBoy> and if you want to change it from baby boy to baby colt, while it's more acurate it's not always as fun to keep people in suspense
2008-03-22 00:43 < AppleBoy> FastLizard4|Food: how about I'm the one with the image of the baby horse?
2008-03-22 00:43 < AppleBoy> hi Anthere
2008-03-22 00:43 < FastLizard4|Food> ...
2008-03-22 00:44 < Buffalosoldier92> Hey, horses are cool.
2008-03-22 00:44 < AppleBoy> it's mine! I'm apple` !
2008-03-22 00:44 < AppleBoy> fix it
2008-03-22 00:44 < AppleBoy> :)
2008-03-22 00:45 < AppleBoy> hrmm, wait a sec
2008-03-22 00:45 < FastLizard4|Food> Prove you are
2008-03-22 00:45 < Apple`> ha!
2008-03-22 00:45 < Apple`> can't believe I still have this screen session going
2008-03-22 00:45 < Apple`> I are appleboy
2008-03-22 00:45 < FastLizard4|Food> :\
2008-03-22 00:45 < AppleBoy> see?
2008-03-22 00:46 < FastLizard4|Food> Apple` is not identified
2008-03-22 00:46 < AppleBoy> I didn't even realize I left that screen session going
2008-03-22 00:46 < AppleBoy> apple` isn't registered
2008-03-22 00:46 < FastLizard4|Food> Ahh, i c
2008-03-22 00:46 < FastLizard4|Food> Alright
2008-03-22 00:46 < AppleBoy> I have 18 usernames registered
2008-03-22 00:46 < FastLizard4|Food> AppleBoy: better?
2008-03-22 00:47 < FastLizard4|Food> !ping Apple
2008-03-22 00:47 < FastLizard4|Food> err
2008-03-22 00:47 < AppleBoy> apple, apple|desktop, apple|dioxide, apple|server, apple|laptop, strawberries, rv-nepenthes, appleserver, randomvoids, peacekeeper, apple|idle, rv-dioxide, appleboy, applepie, appleman, applegod, drapple, and tarts
2008-03-22 00:47 < AppleBoy> :D
2008-03-22 00:47 < FastLizard4|Food> AppleBoy: Is the topic now correct?
2008-03-22 00:47 < AppleBoy> yes, thank you :)
2008-03-22 00:47 < AppleBoy> http://forum.onmac.net/showthread.php?p=13188#post13188
2008-03-22 00:47 < FastLizard4|Food> Alright, now what did I do with the deop alias...
2008-03-22 00:47 < AppleBoy> check out my misadventures
2008-03-22 00:48 < AppleBoy> it's crazy
2008-03-22 00:48 < Werdna> so, who wants to unblock werdnabot
2008-03-22 00:48 < AppleBoy> nevah!
2008-03-22 00:48 < AppleBoy> hi Werd
2008-03-22 00:48 < AppleBoy> Werdna: *
2008-03-22 00:48 < FastLizard4|Food> Werdna: On here?
2008-03-22 00:48 < Werdna> no, wikipedia
2008-03-22 00:48 < Buffalosoldier92> Hey GPT
2008-03-22 00:48 < MrZ-man> Werdna: is it fixed?
2008-03-22 00:48 < Werdna> yeah
2008-03-22 00:48 < Werdna> I think so
2008-03-22 00:49 < AppleBoy> gpt be gone :/
2008-03-22 00:49 < Werdna> I'm giving it a trial run
2008-03-22 00:49 < MrZ-man> k
2008-03-22 00:49 < NotACow> death to bots!
2008-03-22 00:49 < AppleBoy> wikipedia has too many cabals and is no longer npov
2008-03-22 00:49 < AppleBoy> :(
2008-03-22 00:49 < Buffalosoldier92> wait
2008-03-22 00:49 < Buffalosoldier92> GPT left
2008-03-22 00:49 < Buffalosoldier92> dammit
2008-03-22 00:49 < Buffalosoldier92> <_<
2008-03-22 00:49 * Buffalosoldier92 is late
2008-03-22 00:49 < MrZ-man> done
2008-03-22 00:49 < Buffalosoldier92> always late...
2008-03-22 00:49 < Werdna> yay
2008-03-22 00:50 < AppleBoy> wikipedia is a place for a whole bunch of wakoes to team up and modify the wiki to suit their needs
2008-03-22 00:50 < NotACow> that's spelled "whacko"
2008-03-22 00:50 < AppleBoy> whoops >.<
2008-03-22 00:50 < MrZ-man> Werdna: I've always wanted to use that as a summary in a block log
2008-03-22 00:51 < NotACow> MrZ-man: you should never use such language in block summaries. doing so is incivil.
2008-03-22 00:51 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-03-22 00:51 < MrZ-man> Werdna: want I should undelete the talk page as well?
2008-03-22 00:51 < Messedrocker> you must be the better gentleman
2008-03-22 00:52 < Werdna> haha
2008-03-22 00:53 < FastLizard4|Food> Did you konw taht it desne't mtater waht oderr the ltetres are in, as lnog as the frsit and lsat ltetres are tehre
2008-03-22 00:53 < Messedrocker> er yes, i did remember hearing that several years ago
2008-03-22 00:54 < Werdna> mostly working
2008-03-22 00:54 < enok|walker> hay gang
2008-03-22 00:55 < Leslie_S> night
2008-03-22 00:58 * Messedrocker remembers being one of the first beta testers for Werdnabot
2008-03-22 01:41 * FastLizard4|Food is now going to bed, good night!
2008-03-22 01:43 < enok|walker> Um guys, I am going to ask a question, and you are going to think it is stupid and/or a joke but I would like to know the answer if possible thanks :/
2008-03-22 01:44 < enok|walker> Am I going to suffer any serious effects from snorting salt water
2008-03-22 01:44 < Mark_Ryan> drowning?
2008-03-22 01:45 < Messedrocker> dehydration?
2008-03-22 01:45 < Mark_Ryan> salty nose?
2008-03-22 01:45 < enok|walker> I read that saline solution might temporarily help my enlarged turbinate but it didn't :(
2008-03-22 01:52 < scorchsaber> So, why is it bad to have too many copyrighted images on a wikipedia page?
2008-03-22 01:53 < scorchsaber> What I don't get is why there's so much strangeness with the image (or pixel) to word ratio.
2008-03-22 01:54 < Rinn|Dead> Well, a picture says a thousand words.
2008-03-22 01:54 < scorchsaber> Something might be 3 pages long and have 6 pictures and be in violation of the rule, but a half-a-page article with one picture wouldn't.
2008-03-22 01:54 < Rinn|Dead> If you just put a bunch of pictures on there, you've got a full article.
2008-03-22 01:55 < scorchsaber> Rinn|Dead: Well, that's kind of my point.
2008-03-22 01:55 < scorchsaber> I really like seeing lots of pictures in an article.
2008-03-22 01:55 < scorchsaber> But with some things (eg TV shows), that wouldn't be possible due to this rule against lots of copyrighted pictures. :/
2008-03-22 01:56 < scorchsaber> And, well, I can't think of how even 100 pictures for a single page with no text would be copyright infringement.
2008-03-22 01:56 < scorchsaber> Since AFAIK you can use clips from copyrighted works without infringement, and those clips might have much more than just a hundred frames.
2008-03-22 01:57 < scorchsaber> So I don't understand the logic. Obviously IANAL, so I'm wondering why.
2008-03-22 01:58 < Mark_Ryan> IAAL
2008-03-22 01:58 < Mark_Ryan> I believe the thinking is that using a small proportion of the
2008-03-22 01:58 < Mark_Ryan> ... 'whole work' is much more likely to be considered to be legitimate fair use, than reproducing the entire work
2008-03-22 01:59 < Mark_Ryan> 100 pictures on a single page with no text, how would that be fair use? how would its use be educational to fall under fair use?
2008-03-22 02:00 < scorchsaber> Mark_Ryan: It could be a gallery of pictures of characters in a film
2008-03-22 02:00 < Mark_Ryan> yeah, but how does it 'educate'?
2008-03-22 02:00 < Mark_Ryan> that could be tough to do :)
2008-03-22 02:01 < scorchsaber> To be specific, I'm wondering why a dozen or two (dozen) pieces of frames of a TV show with well over a hundred hours (and well over 100 000 full frames) would be too much use of copyrighted material.
2008-03-22 02:02 < scorchsaber> And of course, there's plenty of text
2008-03-22 02:02 < scorchsaber> Each picture has a caption, and there's plenty of text besides the captions. :/
2008-03-22 02:02 < scorchsaber> Mark_Ryan: It shows you their faces.
2008-03-22 02:02 < scorchsaber> Mark_Ryan: Educating you as to the cast. :x
2008-03-22 02:24 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven_school_Skittles_incident
2008-03-22 02:24 < The359> Sweet fuck
2008-03-22 02:25 < The359> Who put the school in charge if children's eating habits. Or whether they're allowed to carry money
2008-03-22 02:26 < The359> charge of
2008-03-22 02:27 < AdamBishop> the school board, by way of well-intentioned but scarily misguided parents, presumably
2008-03-22 02:27 < The359> well I meant, what business is it of theirs
2008-03-22 02:27 < Alkivar> god i hate stupid parents who want the govt and shit like schools to do their fucking jobs for them
2008-03-22 02:27 < The359> and clearly the parents are misguided if THEY aren't the ones keeping track of their children
2008-03-22 02:28 < AdamBishop> well, people are idiots.
2008-03-22 02:28 < Alkivar> yeah i know just look at the avg wikipedia editor
2008-03-22 02:28 < Alkivar> *rimshot*
2008-03-22 02:28 < Messedrocker> suspending an honor student for buying skittles?
2008-03-22 02:28 < Messedrocker> GB2 Nazi Germany
2008-03-22 02:29 * Rinn|Dead giggles
2008-03-22 02:29 < Lycurgus> GB2?
2008-03-22 02:29 < Messedrocker> IS DANGEROUS FOR STUDENTS TO CARRY MONEY
2008-03-22 02:29 < Messedrocker> WE LIKE CREATING OUR DISTINCT LITTLE REALITY
2008-03-22 02:29 < scorchsaber> The359: The school has always been responsible for children's eating habits while at school
2008-03-22 02:29 < The359> No it hasn't
2008-03-22 02:30 < scorchsaber> The359: Schools are children's "acting parents" while they are in school.