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2008-03-20 08:38 < Stormscape> It'll be interesting to see what chernobyl and Pirypat will look like in 500 years
2008-03-20 08:38 < quanticle> TheOtter: Yeah. That entire episode was a charlie-foxtrot from beginning to end.
2008-03-20 08:38 < Stormscape> The wildlife and plant life that is
2008-03-20 08:38 < TheOtter> yup
2008-03-20 08:38 < TheOtter> it's a national park now
2008-03-20 08:38 < Stormscape> "The Six Headed Deer"
2008-03-20 08:38 < TheOtter> it's pretty damn impressive, nature's force to reclaim stuff
2008-03-20 08:38 < quanticle> Stormscape: The wildlife and vegetation has already recovered rather nicely.
2008-03-20 08:38 < ideogram> most wildlife and plant life in Chernobyl is doing ok, they respond to shortened life expectancy by increased breeding
2008-03-20 08:39 < Stormscape> I love how much the ukraine pays the people who maintain Chernobyl Nuclear Power Station.
2008-03-20 08:39 < quanticle> Stormscape: If you can ignore the concrete tomb, it rather looks like an American national park.
2008-03-20 08:39 < Stormscape> $2000/month for 2 minutes of work a day.
2008-03-20 08:39 < ideogram> actually radiation and cancer is a bigger problem for long lived animals like human beings
2008-03-20 08:39 < Stormscape> Because the radiation levels are so high
2008-03-20 08:39 < TheOtter> brb
2008-03-20 08:39 < quanticle> Stormscape: But its 2 minutes of work in CHERNOBYL
2008-03-20 08:39 < Stormscape> So trees can't get cancer then I'd assume.
2008-03-20 08:39 < ideogram> I don't think so
2008-03-20 08:39 < Stormscape> That'd be interesting.
2008-03-20 08:40 < Stormscape> cancerous tree
2008-03-20 08:40 < quanticle> Stormscape: Nah. Trees are actually fairly resistant to fallout and radiation.
2008-03-20 08:40 < Stormscape> Trees... the last thing left on earth after the nuclear winter
2008-03-20 08:40 < Stormscape> them and cockaroaches
2008-03-20 08:40 < quanticle> Stormscape: Yep.
2008-03-20 08:41 < Stormscape> What's funny is despite the fact the Ukranians are getting $2000/month for 2 minutes of work a day
2008-03-20 08:41 < Stormscape> many of them try to cheat on the geiger counters
2008-03-20 08:41 < Stormscape> so they can work more
2008-03-20 08:41 < Stormscape> and get more money
2008-03-20 08:41 < quanticle> Stormscape: Whatever. Its their funeral.
2008-03-20 08:41 < Stormscape> Well they're Ukranians
2008-03-20 08:41 < Stormscape> They're like russians but different
2008-03-20 08:42 < TheOtter> they're not commies, they WANT TO WORK :-P
2008-03-20 08:42 < quanticle> Meh. All you slavs look the same to me ;P
2008-03-20 08:42 < TheOtter> they don't suffer from silly health concerns
2008-03-20 08:42 < quanticle> TheOtter: Ukranians?
2008-03-20 08:43 < TheOtter> Ya
2008-03-20 08:43 < quanticle> Its because they drink so much vodka they're already pickled
2008-03-20 08:43 < quanticle> :D
2008-03-20 08:43 < Stormscape> Well
2008-03-20 08:43 < Stormscape> It's said the Titanic's Chef
2008-03-20 08:43 < Stormscape> survived the night in the freezing atlantic
2008-03-20 08:43 < TheOtter> Vodka is an excellent radiation repellent.
2008-03-20 08:43 < Stormscape> cause he was bombed on vodka
2008-03-20 08:44 < TheOtter> I guess the good thing about vodka is that it's an excellent reality repellent.
2008-03-20 08:44 < ideogram> vodka does not protect you against the cold
2008-03-20 08:44 < quanticle> TheOtter: Indeed.
2008-03-20 08:44 < Stormscape> they supposedly found him clinging to a piece of wreckage still drunk
2008-03-20 08:44 < ideogram> it makes you not feel it
2008-03-20 08:44 < quanticle> ideogram: Precisely. Vodka is a great reality repellent.
2008-03-20 08:44 < TheOtter> alcohol actually lowers body temp
2008-03-20 08:44 < TheOtter> :-D
2008-03-20 08:44 < tdjacr> Majorly shouldn't have been blocked!
2008-03-20 08:45 < bumm13> hmm?
2008-03-20 08:45 < tdjacr> [[User:Majorly]]
2008-03-20 08:45 < quanticle> tdjacr: Why'd Majorly get blocked?
2008-03-20 08:45 < Stormscape> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Chernobyl_Disaster.jpg <-this is why the operator did not survive
2008-03-20 08:45 * TheOtter isn't in on that particular piece of drama
2008-03-20 08:45 < Stormscape> wasn't radiation
2008-03-20 08:45 < tdjacr> Alison shouldn't have resigned
2008-03-20 08:45 < TheOtter> as I said
2008-03-20 08:45 < jerusalemboogie> tdjacr: well done
2008-03-20 08:45 < TheOtter> most of the people in the control room got out
2008-03-20 08:45 < jerusalemboogie> you've won the Captain Obvious of the Week award
2008-03-20 08:46 < TheOtter> some died on the scene, few by the explosion itself
2008-03-20 08:46 < tdjacr> quanticle: For restoring a banned users edits
2008-03-20 08:46 < jerusalemboogie> but srsly, no dramaz plz
2008-03-20 08:46 < tdjacr> jerusalemboogie: Cut the sarcasm
2008-03-20 08:46 < quanticle> Stormscape: The control room was in a different part of the building. It wasn't next to the reactor itself.
2008-03-20 08:46 < jerusalemboogie> tdjacr: Morrow really isn't someone you mess with
2008-03-20 08:47 < TheOtter> damn you, winter... http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128345359563750000.jpg
2008-03-20 08:47 < quanticle> Stormscape: As TheOtter said, most of the people in the control room got out, but died of rad. poisoning later.
2008-03-20 08:48 < TheOtter> the odd thing that I still don't quite get is that trying to shut the reactor off really made it worse
2008-03-20 08:48 < TheOtter> providing extra fuel
2008-03-20 08:48 < TheOtter> but I'm physics and engineering-impaired
2008-03-20 08:48 < quanticle> TheOtter: The graphite control rods they lowered into the reactor caught fire, is basically what happened.
2008-03-20 08:48 < TheOtter> oh okay
2008-03-20 08:49 < Stormscape> and there was too much water in it
2008-03-20 08:49 < Stormscape> also alot of the rods got stuck 1/3 in
2008-03-20 08:49 < quanticle> Stormscape: Right. The rods displaced the water, which, at that point, was actually a better neutron sink than the graphite.
2008-03-20 08:50 < sssoul> hello ... anyone available to give a second opinion on a situation involving copyright material? it's getting kind of abusive and i need some advice.
2008-03-20 08:51 < Stormscape> Apparantly it's estimated it'll be safe to inhabit Chernobyl again by the 25th century.
2008-03-20 08:51 < TheOtter> Some governments assume a better tolerance of their people.
2008-03-20 08:51 < TheOtter> Mostly authoritarian ones.
2008-03-20 08:52 < sssoul> okay, i'll try elsewhere, or later or something ... swing on
2008-03-20 08:52 < Stormscape> TheOtter: the time needed for the 2 deadliest isotopes to reach 1/1000th of their current level is 300 years.
2008-03-20 08:53 < TheOtter> yea.
2008-03-20 08:53 < Stormscape> I estimated 25th century because would YOU want to live next to Chernobyl?
2008-03-20 08:53 < TheOtter> people have already gone back. I guess it's difficult to convince people to do the Right Thing (tm).
2008-03-20 08:53 < quanticle> TheOtter: Especially when land is scarce and doing the Wrong Thing is so profitable.
2008-03-20 08:54 < TheOtter> yep
2008-03-20 08:54 < TheOtter> not sure how scarce land really is in a large, loosely populated country like Ukraine
2008-03-20 08:55 < ideogram> location, location, location
2008-03-20 08:55 < TheOtter> they should have a theme park there
2008-03-20 08:55 < TheOtter> it would be all postmodern and ironic
2008-03-20 08:55 < Lucifer_Cat> is the otter related to the weasel
2008-03-20 08:56 < TheOtter> it is
2008-03-20 08:56 < Lucifer_Cat> in what way
2008-03-20 08:56 < TheOtter> they're both mustelids
2008-03-20 08:56 < TheOtter> vulgo "weasels"
2008-03-20 08:57 < TheOtter> martens
2008-03-20 08:57 < TheOtter> whatever
2008-03-20 08:57 < Lucifer_Cat> well...
2008-03-20 08:58 < TheOtter> well...
2008-03-20 09:00 < TheOtter> brb
2008-03-20 09:08 < TheOtter> About back.
2008-03-20 09:10 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-03-20 09:20 < Diem> rape
2008-03-20 09:20 < Diem> RAPE
2008-03-20 09:26 < TheOtter> Huh?
2008-03-20 09:26 < TheOtter> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Chess#Source
2008-03-20 09:32 < Lunaway> TheOtter: A bit nonstandard, but I guess it works.
2008-03-20 09:32 < TheOtter> fair enough
2008-03-20 09:39 < TheOtter> "Before the introduction of the whistle, referees indicated their decisions by waving a handkerchief."
2008-03-20 09:39 < TheOtter> Very manly
2008-03-20 09:39 < ShakespeareFan00> Yeah
2008-03-20 09:39 < ShakespeareFan00> It's like waving a flag
2008-03-20 09:40 < TheOtter> linesman still does that, but it's probably cooler than waving a hankie.
2008-03-20 09:43 < Rinn> I'd say a handkerchief is manlier than a whistle.
2008-03-20 09:45 < TheOtter> Oh?
2008-03-20 09:45 < TheOtter> Heh... okay
2008-03-20 09:45 < The359> Handkerchief's aren't loud and in your face
2008-03-20 09:46 < TheOtter> *flap
2008-03-20 09:47 < TheOtter> to me it sounds more like 30s movies with trains in them
2008-03-20 09:48 < TheOtter> where the crying older woman waves after someone
2008-03-20 09:48 < Lunaway> What about waving a handkerchief *and* blowing a whistle? And the whistle might have a handkerchief hooked to it.
2008-03-20 09:49 < TheOtter> you can't wave a whistle while whistling it
2008-03-20 09:51 < The359> the flags are much louder than any hankerchief
2008-03-20 09:51 < The359> when waved
2008-03-20 09:57 < quanticle> Heh: http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/default.aspx?id=1a5f1519-1b1f-403b-bb85-69b0aac85681
2008-03-20 09:59 < The359> A German retiree is taking a hospital to court after she went in for a leg operation and got a new anus instead, the Daily Telegraph is reporting.
2008-03-20 09:59 < The359> The woman woke up to find she had been mixed up with another patient suffering from incontinence who was to have surgery on her sphincter.
2008-03-20 09:59 < ShakespeareFan00> At least it wasn't SRS they got by mistake :O
2008-03-20 10:04 < quanticle> The359: Well, at least they didn't do it half-assed.
2008-03-20 10:07 * TheOtter adds match report to [[Bernd Stumpf]]
2008-03-20 10:09 * TheOtter complains about "those damn lawsuits making healthcare so expensive"
2008-03-20 10:09 < TheOtter> you can't even make an honest mistake any more
2008-03-20 10:24 < kenlyric> lol
2008-03-20 10:24 < kenlyric> honest mistake
2008-03-20 10:27 < NotACow> meh
2008-03-20 10:29 < Lucifer_Cat> you mean 'moo', right?
2008-03-20 10:29 < Lucifer_Cat> hows the kid?
2008-03-20 10:32 < jerusalemboogie> NotACow: moo!
2008-03-20 10:35 < Lycurgus> i think you can. But if a board of review needs to determine whether or not in fact it was an honest mistake, you prolly don't wanna. What's wrong with thta?
2008-03-20 10:42 < mexicanbanana> How can Diet Mountain Dew taste so good?
2008-03-20 10:42 < mexicanbanana> It has 0 sugar and 0 fat.
2008-03-20 10:42 < mexicanbanana> Yet it tastes like the original. :S
2008-03-20 10:43 < mexicanbanana> That is never usually the case.
2008-03-20 10:45 < Ningyou> why do you drink diet-one? :D
2008-03-20 10:45 < mexicanbanana> Because sugar is killing my teeth.
2008-03-20 10:45 < mexicanbanana> And making my fucking belly big as a house.
2008-03-20 10:46 < AppleBoy> hey, what's a really cool looking font?
2008-03-20 10:46 < mexicanbanana> Times New Roman.
2008-03-20 10:46 < mexicanbanana> Totally out there.
2008-03-20 10:46 < mexicanbanana> Radical font.
2008-03-20 10:46 < AppleBoy> besides TNR
2008-03-20 10:47 < mexicanbanana> MS Comic Sans.
2008-03-20 10:47 < Ningyou> I don't think drinking only diet sodas will do any good for you
2008-03-20 10:47 < AppleBoy> non-microsoft
2008-03-20 10:47 < mexicanbanana> Ningyou: Except 40% less sugar...
2008-03-20 10:47 < Ningyou> the problem is elsewhere
2008-03-20 10:47 < Lunaway> What are we using this font for?
2008-03-20 10:47 < AppleBoy> DVD credits
2008-03-20 10:47 < mexicanbanana> Ningyou: Um...
2008-03-20 10:48 < Ningyou> I don't wonder why people get so obese, when they just think that drinking light sodas instead of normal ones would make any difference :P
2008-03-20 10:49 < mexicanbanana> Are you stupid or something?
2008-03-20 10:49 < mexicanbanana> Regular sodas are among the top fattening food products.
2008-03-20 10:49 < AppleBoy> I don't drink soda anymore, I feel so much better without doing so :)
2008-03-20 10:49 < mexicanbanana> Soda and ice-cream.
2008-03-20 10:49 < AppleBoy> or fast food
2008-03-20 10:49 < AppleBoy> mmmmm, ice-cream
2008-03-20 10:50 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-20 10:50 < Ningyou> mexicanbanana: Sounds to me you are quite stupid :P
2008-03-20 10:50 < AppleBoy> haven't had soda or fast food in ~3 years
2008-03-20 10:50 < Ningyou> seeing that you're the one with big belly :D
2008-03-20 10:50 < mexicanbanana> Ningyou: Sounds to me like you're a clueless moron.
2008-03-20 10:50 < Ningyou> lol
2008-03-20 10:50 < Ningyou> indeed
2008-03-20 10:50 < mexicanbanana> "lol" <-- Proof.
2008-03-20 10:50 < mexicanbanana> Go back to AOL, fucktard.
2008-03-20 10:50 < Ningyou> :D
2008-03-20 10:50 < AppleBoy> I get just about no exercise, I can still bench press over 135 pounds and I'm only 185 pounds (not bad for 6'2"
2008-03-20 10:51 < AppleBoy> hahahaha
2008-03-20 10:51 < AppleBoy> god he's an idiot
2008-03-20 10:51 < Ningyou> thank goodness I didn't tell him that I used to be quite fat years ago, then lost my weight and gained a lot in muscles ;P
2008-03-20 10:51 < Ningyou> and I still drink regular coca-cola from time to time ;P
2008-03-20 10:51 < Lunaway> Hmm... my list of fonts on here is pretty short. ~.~
2008-03-20 10:52 < AppleBoy> everyone who's in #defocus type "hi" once, let's see how long of a list we can get
2008-03-20 10:58 < quanticle> Its NotACow!
2008-03-20 10:58 * quanticle hugs
2008-03-20 10:58 < CharlotteWebb> oh this is laughable
2008-03-20 11:00 < CharlotteWebb> somebody has posted an "optional question" about fair use policy on geni's rfa
2008-03-20 11:00 < CharlotteWebb> apply directly to forehead
2008-03-20 11:01 < quanticle> CharlotteWebb: Fair use = Head on?
2008-03-20 11:02 < CharlotteWebb> nothing to do with that product specifically
2008-03-20 11:02 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Why'd you join & leave #defocus?
2008-03-20 11:03 < Lucifer_Cat> at work
2008-03-20 11:03 < quanticle> Ah.
2008-03-20 11:03 < Lucifer_Cat> trying to focus
2008-03-20 11:03 < CharlotteWebb> just that i'm willing to bet that geni understands fair use policy quite a bit better than the person asking the question (presumably to gauge understanding of the policy)
2008-03-20 11:04 < NotACow> fair use: just say no
2008-03-20 11:04 < Lucifer_Cat> okay a quick Q.... those blackberrys that access internet... they use the mobile carriers signal right?
2008-03-20 11:04 < NotACow> would you like downward sloping radials with that?
2008-03-20 11:04 < quanticle> NotACow: Wikipedia: Just Say No ;D
2008-03-20 11:04 < NotACow> quanticle: indeed!
2008-03-20 11:04 < CharlotteWebb> steel-belted ones perhaps
2008-03-20 11:04 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Yeah
2008-03-20 11:04 < NotACow> gah
2008-03-20 11:04 < NotACow> i keep missing that question.
2008-03-20 11:04 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Some can use wifi as well
2008-03-20 11:04 < NotACow> 50 ohms, not 300 ohms
2008-03-20 11:05 < Lucifer_Cat> ok
2008-03-20 11:05 < Lucifer_Cat> now i can make them NOT use the wireless right?
2008-03-20 11:06 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I think so. Depends on the OS. Usually they prefer wifi and will switch to a wifi connection on their own if one is available.
2008-03-20 11:06 < CharlotteWebb> "and if so, what is the ratio of page-load time to battery life"
2008-03-20 11:06 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: thanks.
2008-03-20 11:10 < NotACow> my blackberry uses a parasitic battery -- it sucks power out of nearby lifeforms
2008-03-20 11:10 < quanticle> NotACow: Sweet! Where do I get me one of those
2008-03-20 11:11 < NotACow> quanticle: you have to make a deal with satan
2008-03-20 11:11 < NotACow> quanticle: i got a discount because of all the evil i've created on wikipedia
2008-03-20 11:11 < WilliamH> good day all
2008-03-20 11:13 < quanticle> NotACow: Awww. I'm not evil enough. Satan says that I can't get the discount, so I have to offer not only my soul, but the soul of a family member as well...
2008-03-20 11:13 * WilliamH hasnt been here for a while
2008-03-20 11:14 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah, you dont have enough karma debt. you will need a co-signer
2008-03-20 11:14 < Lucifer_Cat> WilliamH: Macy?
2008-03-20 11:14 < WilliamH> sorry?
2008-03-20 11:14 < WilliamH> ahh, the actor
2008-03-20 11:14 < WilliamH> heh, no
2008-03-20 11:14 < Lucifer_Cat> nevermind
2008-03-20 11:15 < Lucifer_Cat> yeah that
2008-03-20 11:15 < WilliamH> i know who mean
2008-03-20 11:15 < Lucifer_Cat> really poor joke.
2008-03-20 11:15 < NotACow> he's a woodturner, too
2008-03-20 11:15 * quanticle doesn't remember seeing WilliamH before...
2008-03-20 11:15 < NotACow> william h macy was on the cover of woodturner's magazine a few months back
2008-03-20 11:15 < WilliamH> that's probably because i dont come here often and the last time i did was a while yonder ;)
2008-03-20 11:16 < OverlordQ> I thought yonder was used more for spatial vs temporal
2008-03-20 11:16 < NotACow> OverlordQ: can be used for either
2008-03-20 11:16 < NotACow> OverlordQ: but spatial is more common
2008-03-20 11:17 < OverlordQ> Huh
2008-03-20 11:17 < NotACow> it's 11am. do you know where your emissions are?
2008-03-20 11:17 < WilliamH> it's 16:17 in jolly old England
2008-03-20 11:17 < Lucifer_Cat> 11:17
2008-03-20 11:18 < epsi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kidney_PioM.png very good picture but it would be even better in svg?
2008-03-20 11:18 < CharlotteWebb> one of these guys surely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/William_H%2E
2008-03-20 11:19 < WilliamH> haha that narrows it down
2008-03-20 11:19 * NotACow giggles
2008-03-20 11:19 < NotACow> i love the wrong answers on these tests
2008-03-20 11:19 * WilliamH is none of those
2008-03-20 11:19 < NotACow> "Post a copy of FCC Rules Part 97"
2008-03-20 11:20 < CharlotteWebb> wtf are you applying for, ham radio license?
2008-03-20 11:20 < NotACow> CharlotteWebb: i'm studying for the general and extra components
2008-03-20 11:20 < WilliamH> if it means that much to you, this is me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WilliamH
2008-03-20 11:20 < WilliamH> :)
2008-03-20 11:22 < CharlotteWebb> lol adopt-a-user
2008-03-20 11:22 < WilliamH> mm
2008-03-20 11:22 < NotACow> ah, on to the questions that deal with premise electrical wiring, which i already know from doing home improvement :)
2008-03-20 11:22 < WilliamH> i had already been around for sometime, but i decided to venture into that
2008-03-20 11:23 < WilliamH> it got me speaking to people, always a good thing
2008-03-20 11:23 < CharlotteWebb> anybody other than NotACow want to adopt me (that would look too suspicious)
2008-03-20 11:23 < NotACow> CharlotteWebb: aw, you're no fun!
2008-03-20 11:23 * NotACow officially adopts CharlotteWebb into her "wikisatan jr." program
2008-03-20 11:23 < NotACow> "RF energy can convert the lead into a poisonous gas"
2008-03-20 11:23 < WilliamH> i will, if you mean it
2008-03-20 11:23 < WilliamH> <g>
2008-03-20 11:24 < NotACow> w00t
2008-03-20 11:25 < NotACow> i'm through the general questions
2008-03-20 11:25 < NotACow> onto Extra!
2008-03-20 11:25 < Lucifer_Cat> CharlotteWebb: is it creepy to adopt someone older than you?
2008-03-20 11:25 < quanticle> NotACow: How difficult is that test? Does it take a lot of studying to make it throug?
2008-03-20 11:25 < quanticle> *through
2008-03-20 11:25 < NotACow> quanticle: technician is a breeze; general isn't terribly hard.
2008-03-20 11:25 < NotACow> quanticle: extra requires some significant study
2008-03-20 11:25 < Lucifer_Cat> i crave for a greasy burger
2008-03-20 11:26 < WilliamH> i wouldn't say so LC
2008-03-20 11:26 < NotACow> quanticle: for extra you need to have a pretty good recollection of largely arbitrary FCC regs, plus a good understanding of RF electronics
2008-03-20 11:26 < CharlotteWebb> depends on how you define "older"
2008-03-20 11:26 < WilliamH> i could really eat some onion rings mmmmm
2008-03-20 11:26 < Lucifer_Cat> CharlotteWebb: age wise?
2008-03-20 11:26 < NotACow> quanticle: most anyone can pass technician with a week's worth of prep or less.
2008-03-20 11:26 < WilliamH> Lucifer Cat where can you be found on the ol' wiki then
2008-03-20 11:26 < quanticle> NotACow: What can you do with a technician license?
2008-03-20 11:26 < NotACow> quanticle: beep at people all over the world
2008-03-20 11:27 < Lucifer_Cat> WilliamH: you mean WP username?
2008-03-20 11:27 < Lucifer_Cat> LuciferTiger
2008-03-20 11:27 < WilliamH> yeah
2008-03-20 11:27 < NotACow> quanticle: the privilege increments for the higher classes aren't that big.
2008-03-20 11:27 < WilliamH> ty
2008-03-20 11:27 < NotACow> quanticle: the main advantage of extra is that you get a shorter callsign :)
2008-03-20 11:27 < Lucifer_Cat> im sure there arent any edits on my name. if you find any, tell me, i'll report theft
2008-03-20 11:27 < WilliamH> nice to talk to an editor in real time as opposed to talk page
2008-03-20 11:28 * Lucifer_Cat hardly qualifies as an editor
2008-03-20 11:28 * NotACow is not an editor
2008-03-20 11:28 * NotACow is a gadfly
2008-03-20 11:28 < Lucifer_Cat> except for helping someone clear up a section
2008-03-20 11:28 < WilliamH> what is your area of interest?
2008-03-20 11:28 < NotACow> haha
2008-03-20 11:28 < quanticle> NotACow: As a tech, you're not restricted to morse only?
2008-03-20 11:28 < CharlotteWebb> "you're listening to WTFO"
2008-03-20 11:28 < NotACow> quanticle: nobody is restricteed to code anymore
2008-03-20 11:28 < Lucifer_Cat> and then got wikichained
2008-03-20 11:28 < NotACow> quanticle: even novice licenses (which are mostly dead anyway) have phone privileges.
2008-03-20 11:29 < Lucifer_Cat> or wikidrifted
2008-03-20 11:29 < quanticle> NotACow: Oh. Nice.
2008-03-20 11:29 * Lycurgus is a disgruntled/irrate editor.
2008-03-20 11:29 < quanticle> NotACow: How expensive is ham radio as a hobby?
2008-03-20 11:29 < NotACow> quanticle: most people start out working USB phone in 2m or 70cm
2008-03-20 11:29 < Lucifer_Cat> Lycurgus: like most?
2008-03-20 11:29 < NotACow> quanticle: moderate to high.
2008-03-20 11:29 < NotACow> quanticle: you can get a lot of equipment off auction sites, though
2008-03-20 11:29 < Lucifer_Cat> moderate being?
2008-03-20 11:29 < NotACow> Lucifer_Cat: $200-$500 for a basic rig.
2008-03-20 11:30 < Lycurgus> right, the usual general online community burn-out.
2008-03-20 11:30 < NotACow> you can easily spend tens of thousand or more
2008-03-20 11:30 < Lucifer_Cat> eeks. im thinking twice before buying a full set of cooking utensils
2008-03-20 11:30 < Lycurgus> it's endemic in groups without a sufficient binding principle.
2008-03-20 11:30 < Lucifer_Cat> maybe a couple of years
2008-03-20 11:30 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Yet, as a geek, I bet you wouldn't think twice before spending that much on upgrades for your computer ;)
2008-03-20 11:30 < NotACow> Lycurgus: wikipedia lacks good binding principles, too
2008-03-20 11:31 < NotACow> ham radio is probably slightly cheaper than computers unless you go for one of those DC-to-daylight ICOMs or something
2008-03-20 11:31 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: im using a hand-me-down T42 which has cracks in places.
2008-03-20 11:31 < Lycurgus> with its typhoon-basedness it has a general lack of principle
2008-03-20 11:31 < NotACow> the top-end icom radio retails for something like $10999
2008-03-20 11:31 * quanticle is going to spend his tax rebate check on a terabyte hard drive
2008-03-20 11:31 < Lucifer_Cat> but i do make it run like a dream though
2008-03-20 11:31 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: You sound like a Linux user.
2008-03-20 11:31 < Lucifer_Cat> \o/ im getting about 200/250 rebate
2008-03-20 11:31 < Lucifer_Cat> XP
2008-03-20 11:31 * WilliamH likes being a geek
2008-03-20 11:32 < Lycurgus> what will you fill it up with?
2008-03-20 11:32 < NotACow> i expect to owe this year
2008-03-20 11:32 < Lucifer_Cat> though im more leet in linux
2008-03-20 11:32 < CharlotteWebb> now, pump up the volume was a great film...
2008-03-20 11:32 < NotACow> Lycurgus: pr0n, what else do you fill a drive with? :)
2008-03-20 11:32 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Weekly snapshots
2008-03-20 11:32 < Demi> are we cooking? doing ham radio?
2008-03-20 11:32 < NotACow> "Which of the following is good engineering practicec for lightning protection grounds?"
2008-03-20 11:32 < quanticle> Lycurgus: And what NotACow said
2008-03-20 11:32 < NotACow> "A. The must be bonded to all buried water and gas lines."
2008-03-20 11:32 < Lucifer_Cat> NotACow: non porn pirated HD movies?
2008-03-20 11:32 < Lycurgus> NotACow: that was the right answer.
2008-03-20 11:33 * quanticle has a 160GB hard drive now, and its full
2008-03-20 11:33 < NotACow> gas lines? *boom*
2008-03-20 11:33 * quanticle upgrades by orders of magnitude
2008-03-20 11:33 * Lucifer_Cat has a 250 gig and a 120 gig external both full
2008-03-20 11:33 < Lucifer_Cat> i had a 60 gig too, which my bro in law dropped 6 feet
2008-03-20 11:33 * NotACow actually wants to get some more space so she can make a wikipedia replica :)
2008-03-20 11:33 < WilliamH> both my hard disks have become external drives, since my computer frazzled
2008-03-20 11:33 * WilliamH is currently on the laptop
2008-03-20 11:34 < quanticle> I went from a 1 GB drive, to a 10 GB drive to a 160 GB drive and I'll be going to a 1000 GB drive soon
2008-03-20 11:34 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: i DID attempt more than once to spend that much amount on upgrades with my dad's money though
2008-03-20 11:34 < quanticle> Upgrades smaller than an order of magnitude just aren't worth it to me
2008-03-20 11:34 < IceKarma> Lucifer_Cat, ouch. guessing it didn't land flat?
2008-03-20 11:34 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: How'd that go?
2008-03-20 11:35 < Lucifer_Cat> worked once.
2008-03-20 11:35 < CharlotteWebb> can you fed-ex me your old ones
2008-03-20 11:35 < Lucifer_Cat> he just got me a new one
2008-03-20 11:35 < Lucifer_Cat> just as in, at that time
2008-03-20 11:35 * IceKarma wonders if there are any Iranians in the house.
2008-03-20 11:35 < Lucifer_Cat> ask Makhmood
2008-03-20 11:35 * NotACow figures out the pattern for the extra-class exclusive bands
2008-03-20 11:35 < quanticle> CharlotteWebb: Not really, given that I don't own the 1 GB or the 10 GB anymore. Also, what'll you do with a 1 GB hard drive?
2008-03-20 11:36 < CharlotteWebb> make my 4 GB hard drive not-so-full
2008-03-20 11:36 < Lucifer_Cat> hes the clean shaved one in the blue-gold shirt wearing shades
2008-03-20 11:36 < quanticle> CharlotteWebb: Get a 100 off NewEgg for not much more than the cost of shipping.
2008-03-20 11:36 < quanticle> CharlotteWebb: 100 GB
2008-03-20 11:38 * Lucifer_Cat still isnt too sure that buying an internal HDD and an enclosure to make it work as an external would be less $$ than getting an external to start with
2008-03-20 11:39 < WilliamH> the difference would probably be minimal
2008-03-20 11:39 < WilliamH> it depends entirely on what you want i guess
2008-03-20 11:39 < quanticle> External enclosures are rarely more than $20 or so.
2008-03-20 11:41 < NotACow> quanticle: you can pay more than $20 but there's not much reason to
2008-03-20 11:42 < CharlotteWebb> unless you're being reimbursed by WMF
2008-03-20 11:42 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.comics.com/comics/offthemark/index.html
2008-03-20 11:42 * WilliamH paid more than that but that's what you get for living in the UK
2008-03-20 11:43 * WilliamH mooches around the RFAs
2008-03-20 11:43 < Demi> you get to pay a lot for external fixed disk drive enclosures?
2008-03-20 11:43 < WilliamH> yes, and all other products and services where currency is tendered
2008-03-20 11:43 < WilliamH> p
2008-03-20 11:43 < WilliamH> :P
2008-03-20 11:44 < quanticle> Demi: You get to pay a lot for everything ordered on the Internet, it seems, if you live in the UK.
2008-03-20 11:44 < WilliamH> -ordered on the internet
2008-03-20 11:44 * WilliamH has never been to the united states but would like to one day
2008-03-20 11:45 < quanticle> WilliamH: Well the pound is at 2:1 ratio to the dollar, so things would certainly be nice and cheap for you once you got here.
2008-03-20 11:45 < Lycurgus> where you at? mehbe we can do an exchange.
2008-03-20 11:46 < WilliamH> true
2008-03-20 11:46 < WilliamH> i bought some books from amazon market place
2008-03-20 11:46 < WilliamH> from US, fantastically cheap, all brand new hardbacks
2008-03-20 11:47 < WilliamH> i live in a little market town in the south of england....so i did not expect to meet a group of americans in the local pub
2008-03-20 11:47 < WilliamH> a pleasant and amusing surprise
2008-03-20 11:47 < jerusalemboogie> WilliamH!
2008-03-20 11:48 < CharlotteWebb> well, how much gas (petrol!) can you get for an hour of work
2008-03-20 11:48 < WilliamH> what do you mean? it was fun!
2008-03-20 11:48 < quanticle> WilliamH: Really? I thought the typical British stereotype was to think of Americans as boors.
2008-03-20 11:48 < WilliamH> well to be honest, i'd prefer to stay impartial
2008-03-20 11:48 < NotACow> quanticle: i thought "bumpkin" was a more apropos term
2008-03-20 11:48 < Lycurgus> in ur face boors.
2008-03-20 11:49 < NotACow> CharlotteWebb: if you hadn't said "petrol" i would have commented on how it depends on how much beans you eat
2008-03-20 11:49 < Lycurgus> there's a diff.
2008-03-20 11:49 < Demi> when i was in the uk it would really make me cringe to see americans behaving boorishly
2008-03-20 11:49 < WilliamH> i know that it is obviously wrong to assume that the actions of a country's government are supported by all its citizens
2008-03-20 11:49 < WilliamH> so i try not to judge
2008-03-20 11:49 < WilliamH> i met some canadians in Munich a fortnight ago
2008-03-20 11:50 < WilliamH> nice folks
2008-03-20 11:50 < WilliamH> i took them to the court brewery
2008-03-20 11:50 * SynergeticMag yawns
2008-03-20 11:50 < quanticle> WilliamH: Canadians are quite possibly the most inoffensive folk in the world, bar none.
2008-03-20 11:50 < Lycurgus> they might have been americans claiming to be canucks
2008-03-20 11:50 < WilliamH> unless you happen to be Kyle Broflovski's mum ;)
2008-03-20 11:51 < WilliamH> nah they were canadian
2008-03-20 11:51 < quanticle> WilliamH: That is true.
2008-03-20 11:51 < WilliamH> yes, i have heard that ruse to americans "pretend to be canadian and your life will be easier in the UK"
2008-03-20 11:51 < Lycurgus> are you sure, there's a lot of passing these days
2008-03-20 11:51 < Demi> americans in britain do have some touching habits like waiting to be reminded to bag their own groceries, stepping off the kerb and getting hit by a car coming from a direction they didn't look to and so forth
2008-03-20 11:51 < Demi> i went to the uk in 2005 and no one seemed to have a problem with me being an american
2008-03-20 11:52 < WilliamH> a friend of mine from Ireland met some americans on her holiday in france
2008-03-20 11:52 < WilliamH> they asked her "did you drive here"
2008-03-20 11:52 < quanticle> WilliamH: Heh.
2008-03-20 11:52 < WilliamH> technically not impossible of course
2008-03-20 11:52 < WilliamH> but amusing none the less ;p
2008-03-20 11:52 < Demi> i'm not sure in what context i would need to pretend to be canadian. possibly during a terrorist hijacking.
2008-03-20 11:52 < quanticle> I wouldn't mind a car tunnel from Ireland to Britain
2008-03-20 11:53 < WilliamH> you could get the ferry from Ireland to the UK
2008-03-20 11:53 < NotACow> Demi: you smell canadian, anyway
2008-03-20 11:53 < WilliamH> with your car
2008-03-20 11:53 < NotACow> Demi: all oregonians do
2008-03-20 11:53 < WilliamH> then you could drive to Dover and either put your car on the ferry there, or put your car on the train through the channel tunnel
2008-03-20 11:53 < Demi> hehe, what's that smell like? gravy fries? tim bits? maple syrup?
2008-03-20 11:53 < SynergeticMag> quanticla: i dont like you :)
2008-03-20 11:53 < NotACow> mmm, gravy fries
2008-03-20 11:53 < SynergeticMag> after i woke up, i realized i dont like this game
2008-03-20 11:53 < SynergeticMag> not one bit
2008-03-20 11:54 < quanticle> SynergeticMag: The whole knight for queen trade not working out for you? ;)
2008-03-20 11:54 < SynergeticMag> it was supposed to
2008-03-20 11:55 < CharlotteWebb> as far as i know, oregonians smell like stale reefer
2008-03-20 11:55 * SynergeticMag is not wounded because of a woman
2008-03-20 11:55 < SynergeticMag> :)
2008-03-20 11:55 * WilliamH has visited Austria, Poland, Germany, France and Switzerland
2008-03-20 11:56 * Lucifer_Cat has visited SC, GA, TX and AL
2008-03-20 11:56 < Lucifer_Cat> lived in rather
2008-03-20 11:57 * SynergeticMag has visited his local bar
2008-03-20 11:57 * WilliamH plans on visiting his local tomorrow or saturday night
2008-03-20 11:57 * Lucifer_Cat intends to stick to the internet
2008-03-20 11:57 < SynergeticMag> i cant wait for summer, theres a noew mall here, with tables designed for chess :)
2008-03-20 11:57 < SynergeticMag> new, not noew
2008-03-20 11:57 * WilliamH misses pretzels
2008-03-20 11:58 < Lucifer_Cat> WilliamH: big ones or airplane snack ones
2008-03-20 11:58 < WilliamH> big ones
2008-03-20 11:59 < Lucifer_Cat> and where did u have them
2008-03-20 11:59 < WilliamH> Munich
2008-03-20 11:59 < Lucifer_Cat> describe
2008-03-20 11:59 < SynergeticMag> i won't go to Munich, I've seen the movie
2008-03-20 11:59 < WilliamH> big, doughy, salty, delicious with butter
2008-03-20 11:59 < Lucifer_Cat> mmmmm
2008-03-20 11:59 < SynergeticMag> sounds...uh
2008-03-20 11:59 * WilliamH has been invited to Oktoberfest
2008-03-20 12:00 < Lucifer_Cat> that made my lunch more palatable
2008-03-20 12:00 < Lucifer_Cat> \o/ for you
2008-03-20 12:00 < WilliamH> DerHexer! I know you
2008-03-20 12:00 < WilliamH> i have seen you on my wikipedia travels
2008-03-20 12:00 < WilliamH> :D
2008-03-20 12:00 < Demi> i think everyone who has seen the (american) office understands the importance of pretzel day
2008-03-20 12:00 < quanticle> SynergeticMag: Sounds awesome.
2008-03-20 12:00 < DerHexer> .oO(I know me too.)
2008-03-20 12:00 < DerHexer> Hi WilliamH. :)
2008-03-20 12:01 < WilliamH> nice to talk to you
2008-03-20 12:01 < SynergeticMag> yeah, i need to get better at chess, havent played in almost 6 months
2008-03-20 12:01 < DerHexer> Where?
2008-03-20 12:01 < DerHexer> +exactely
2008-03-20 12:01 < WilliamH> reverting vandalism
2008-03-20 12:01 < DerHexer> oh, okay, what else? ;)
2008-03-20 12:02 < Lucifer_Cat> Demi: seen that episode rather?
2008-03-20 12:02 < WilliamH> Germany related articles
2008-03-20 12:02 < quanticle> SyngergeticMag: Don't worry. This is my first game in over a year.
2008-03-20 12:02 < DerHexer> what -> where
2008-03-20 12:02 < SynergeticMag> quanticle: yeah, but you're clearly better
2008-03-20 12:02 < SynergeticMag> you've rode the bike before, and longer
2008-03-20 12:03 < Demi> Lucifer_Cat - yes
2008-03-20 12:03 < Lucifer_Cat> ahh
2008-03-20 12:03 * SynergeticMag ponders hs choice of music for today
2008-03-20 12:03 < WilliamH> i couldnt recall, i havent perused some germany related articles for a while
2008-03-20 12:03 < Lucifer_Cat> the first 3 seasons were too close to my reality/general reality for me to be able to enjoy them
2008-03-20 12:03 < WilliamH> but i could have sworn i saw you dabbling in them
2008-03-20 12:04 < Lucifer_Cat> so i skipped most eps
2008-03-20 12:04 < mavhc> isn't that the point of them?
2008-03-20 12:04 < Lucifer_Cat> point of?
2008-03-20 12:04 < scatterp> hi i was looking at a new thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyN4ViZ21N0 audeo some kinda psychic comunication device i noticed theres no wikipedia page on it and i cant find much information on it i wanted some advice on finding more info perhaps a patent
2008-03-20 12:05 * SynergeticMag settle for TerminalChoice
2008-03-20 12:06 < WilliamH> heh, the UK really does amuse me
2008-03-20 12:06 * SynergeticMag der schwarze Mann
2008-03-20 12:08 < WilliamH> university is free in Scotland
2008-03-20 12:09 < WilliamH> (as opposed to paying top up/tuition fees in England)
2008-03-20 12:09 < WilliamH> but not if you're English
2008-03-20 12:09 < Lucifer_Cat> hahaha
2008-03-20 12:09 < WilliamH> (or Welsh or Northern Irish)
2008-03-20 12:09 < WilliamH> oho, but here's the funny but
2008-03-20 12:09 < Lucifer_Cat> south irish?
2008-03-20 12:09 < WilliamH> cat i'm assuming that's a joke righT?
2008-03-20 12:09 * WilliamH gives you the benefit of the doubt
2008-03-20 12:10 < Lucifer_Cat> ofcourse it is
2008-03-20 12:10 < Lucifer_Cat> whats the funny part now
2008-03-20 12:10 < WilliamH> only it wouldnt be the first time i've heard that response :P
2008-03-20 12:10 < WilliamH> well, it IS free, in Scotland...if you're Germany
2008-03-20 12:10 < WilliamH> -y
2008-03-20 12:10 < WilliamH> it IS free, in Scotland, if you're French
2008-03-20 12:10 < Lucifer_Cat> French?
2008-03-20 12:10 < Lucifer_Cat> ah beat me to it
2008-03-20 12:10 < Lucifer_Cat> Indian?
2008-03-20 12:11 < WilliamH> not indian
2008-03-20 12:11 < Lucifer_Cat> American?
2008-03-20 12:11 < WilliamH> just every single nationality of the European Union
2008-03-20 12:11 < WilliamH> just not English
2008-03-20 12:11 < Lucifer_Cat> ok
2008-03-20 12:11 < Lucifer_Cat> lol
2008-03-20 12:11 < WilliamH> the mind boggles
2008-03-20 12:11 < mavhc> how can it be free if you're french?
2008-03-20 12:11 < WilliamH> you tell me
2008-03-20 12:11 < Lucifer_Cat> well its quite simple really
2008-03-20 12:11 < Lucifer_Cat> they want more local people to study
2008-03-20 12:11 < WilliamH> it's free if you're czech, romanian, dutch, german, italian, spanish, portuguese
2008-03-20 12:11 < WilliamH> just not English
2008-03-20 12:12 < Lucifer_Cat> and at the same time, more international students would be a good addition
2008-03-20 12:12 < WilliamH> yes but it is the principal
2008-03-20 12:12 < Lucifer_Cat> but rest of brits would just be 'non-local' 'non-international'
2008-03-20 12:12 < mexicanbanana> In the USA (and elsewhere), if you want to sue somebody, but cannot afford a laywer/whatever, do you get a free one assigned to you? Or is it just if somebody is suing you?
2008-03-20 12:13 < Demi> you don't "get a free lawyer" in either case
2008-03-20 12:13 < mexicanbanana> I don't?
2008-03-20 12:13 < Demi> no
2008-03-20 12:13 < Lucifer_Cat> i think i do, if you are charged
2008-03-20 12:13 < WilliamH> it is extraordinary that England can subsidise students of every other nationality of the European Union to go to Scottish university
2008-03-20 12:13 < mexicanbanana> I keep hearing that if you go to court without a laywer, they give you a cheap one for free.
2008-03-20 12:13 < WilliamH> except the English, that's all
2008-03-20 12:13 < Lucifer_Cat> i heard the line "If you cant afford one, the state will provide you one"
2008-03-20 12:13 < mavhc> international students normally have to pay way more
2008-03-20 12:14 < Demi> that's completely different than "suing" or "being sued" which is what mexicanbanana is asking about
2008-03-20 12:14 < Lucifer_Cat> ok
2008-03-20 12:14 < Lucifer_Cat> thats only in case u are charged with some crime
2008-03-20 12:14 < Lucifer_Cat> right?
2008-03-20 12:14 < Demi> the court will provide a public defender if you can't afford one, for your criminal defense
2008-03-20 12:14 < Lucifer_Cat> got it
2008-03-20 12:14 < mexicanbanana> Some stupid moron decides to sue me. I get forced to go to court (I assume) and I have no money or no will to pay for a lawyer. What happens?
2008-03-20 12:14 < CharlotteWebb> you have to "prove indigence"
2008-03-20 12:14 < Demi> mexicanbanana - you lose
2008-03-20 12:15 < mexicanbanana> I automatically lose?
2008-03-20 12:15 * SynergeticMag Schau in den Spiegel, Siehst Du Dein Gesicht? Schau in den Spiegel, Erkennst Du diese Augen nicht
2008-03-20 12:15 < Demi> mexicanbanana - no
2008-03-20 12:15 < Demi> you can represent yourself
2008-03-20 12:15 < mexicanbanana> Because I cannot afford laywer?
2008-03-20 12:15 < Lucifer_Cat> Demi: that would suck
2008-03-20 12:15 < Demi> but "the man who represents himself has a fool for a client"
2008-03-20 12:15 < CharlotteWebb> err for civil cases you're on your own
2008-03-20 12:15 < mexicanbanana> But I know nothing about how you act in court.
2008-03-20 12:15 < mexicanbanana> I would waste their time.
2008-03-20 12:15 < Demi> mexicanbanana - exactly
2008-03-20 12:15 < mexicanbanana> "What can I do now? What are my options?"
2008-03-20 12:15 < Demi> you would be an irritating waste of time, and you would probably lose
2008-03-20 12:15 < WilliamH> would anyone here have their own userpage on wiki by any chance?
2008-03-20 12:15 < mexicanbanana> The thing would take days.
2008-03-20 12:15 < WilliamH> might be nice to see the User: behind the alias here
2008-03-20 12:16 < mexicanbanana> Demi: So basically anyone can sue me for anything at any time?
2008-03-20 12:16 < Demi> you could ask for help... there are legal aid arrangements, but they aren't state-supported
2008-03-20 12:16 < Lucifer_Cat> lol... "umm.. can i ask myself the Qs now?"
2008-03-20 12:16 < mexicanbanana> Since I have no money for a lawyer.
2008-03-20 12:16 < CharlotteWebb> but criminal charges you get a free lawyer basically if your income is below the poverty line in your jurisdiction
2008-03-20 12:16 < Demi> for example, bar associations require lawyers to take some amount of pro bono work
2008-03-20 12:16 < Demi> mexicanbanana - anyone can sue you for anything at any time, but they must show standing in order for a lawsuit to proceed
2008-03-20 12:16 < Lucifer_Cat> they have to support Africa?
2008-03-20 12:17 < mexicanbanana> God dammit. :|
2008-03-20 12:17 < Lucifer_Cat> oh yeah, they case must first be admitted
2008-03-20 12:17 < mexicanbanana> I won't dare to go on vacation to the USA.
2008-03-20 12:17 < Lucifer_Cat> or whatever the term is
2008-03-20 12:17 < Demi> mexicanbanana - here is the question, however: if you have no money, what is someone suing your for?
2008-03-20 12:17 < Demi> "you for"
2008-03-20 12:17 < Lucifer_Cat> Demi.. thats what i was gonna ask
2008-03-20 12:17 < mexicanbanana> Demi: Hmm... good question.
2008-03-20 12:17 < mexicanbanana> Maybe they just really hate me for something I did?
2008-03-20 12:17 < mexicanbanana> And want to fuck my life up even worse.
2008-03-20 12:17 < Demi> it doesn't end up being quite the problem you imagine
2008-03-20 12:17 < Lucifer_Cat> but you could have no money as in "after all the payments i make on my car and house, i cant afford food"
2008-03-20 12:18 < WilliamH> brb
2008-03-20 12:18 < Demi> mexicanbanana - well, you can get in trouble for that
2008-03-20 12:18 < rw12> apple now has a baby boy? what does that mean? :)
2008-03-20 12:18 < Demi> i mean the other party can
2008-03-20 12:18 < Lucifer_Cat> mexicanbanana: its not that easy to sue someone successfully. also, getting the case admitted requires some real credentials
2008-03-20 12:19 < SynergeticMag> #wikipedia-spam-t
2008-03-20 12:19 < Demi> like i said, there are places that can arrange for free legal assistance, they just aren't part of the system
2008-03-20 12:20 < Lucifer_Cat> and if someone is willing to go to that much lengths to set you up and get the case admitted, then i'd say the case/lawyer isnt your biggest problem
2008-03-20 12:20 < Lucifer_Cat> esp if they do it with you being penniless
2008-03-20 12:20 < AppleBoy> rw12: means I have a baby boy :)
2008-03-20 12:20 < AppleBoy> well, baby colt to be exact :P
2008-03-20 12:20 < AppleBoy> title really should be changed to reflect that
2008-03-20 12:20 < Lucifer_Cat> you wife popped out a colt?
2008-03-20 12:20 < Demi> recall also that minor lawsuits involving less than a few thousand dollars are usually handled in small claims court, which typically means no one has a lawyer
2008-03-20 12:20 < AppleBoy> no, my horse did
2008-03-20 12:21 < Demi> you're married to a horse?
2008-03-20 12:21 < scatterp> mexicanbanana its not a cheap lawyer its still an expensive one
2008-03-20 12:21 < Lucifer_Cat> you sisters horse rather
2008-03-20 12:21 < Demi> are you hillary swank's husband?
2008-03-20 12:21 < Lucifer_Cat> Demi: no Hillary Clintons
2008-03-20 12:21 < rw12> i knew there was something wrong with this... ;)
2008-03-20 12:21 < scatterp> hey can some one help me to research a patent for a device ?
2008-03-20 12:21 < Demi> mexicanbanana - http://www.legal-aid.org/en/ineedhelp.aspx <- there are organizations like this
2008-03-20 12:21 < scatterp> or more information at least..