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2008-03-18 18:54 < shimgray> all material in there should be a) replicated in the main text; b) sourced in the main text
2008-03-18 18:55 < shimgray> to use the analogy of academic writing, you never footnote your abstracts!
2008-03-18 18:55 < shimgray> (one caveat - if your intro uses a direct quote, cite that)
2008-03-18 18:55 < Ausir> Arthur C. Clarke should get a 1x4x9 tombstone
2008-03-18 18:55 < SynergeticMag> lol
2008-03-18 18:55 < mavhc> I want one of those
2008-03-18 18:56 < Lady_Aleena> What is an abstract?
2008-03-18 18:56 < Lady_Aleena> blurb please.
2008-03-18 18:56 < mavhc> 1x4x9, completely black, emits a wifi signal with my details
2008-03-18 18:56 < NotASpy> Lady_Aleena: have a look at [[Oxygen]] - that should be a decent enough article to base other articles around.
2008-03-18 18:57 < Lady_Aleena> brb...phone call
2008-03-18 18:58 < SynergeticMag> "When it first crossed over with another series, it started a chain reaction through the television world that still continues today"
2008-03-18 18:58 < SynergeticMag> that needs a source
2008-03-18 18:59 < SynergeticMag> "Since the first crossover, over 150 television series can be considered part of the same shared reality due to spin-offs and crossovers."
2008-03-18 18:59 < SynergeticMag> that too
2008-03-18 18:59 < SynergeticMag> if you source those two sentences, the rest should be fine
2008-03-18 19:00 < ideogram> or you could delete them
2008-03-18 19:00 < SynergeticMag> then the intro wouldnt make sense :)
2008-03-18 19:00 < ideogram> I see
2008-03-18 19:01 < ideogram> It does seem to me those sentences will be hard to source.
2008-03-18 19:01 < SynergeticMag> the intro is 5 sentences, those are the major "claims", and in need of sourcing for it to exist outright
2008-03-18 19:01 < SynergeticMag> nope
2008-03-18 19:02 < SynergeticMag> i need coffee brb
2008-03-18 19:04 < ivance> halo everyone
2008-03-18 19:04 < ivance> i have a question
2008-03-18 19:05 < ivance> oki
2008-03-18 19:06 < ivance> imnot welcome here
2008-03-18 19:06 < ivance> soooooooo
2008-03-18 19:06 < ivance> good bye
2008-03-18 19:06 < SynergeticMag> i just added fact tags to the page
2008-03-18 19:06 < SynergeticMag> to show which ones i mean, and also
2008-03-18 19:06 < SynergeticMag> to be annoying
2008-03-18 19:06 < Cyrius> ivance: what are you talking about?
2008-03-18 19:07 < SynergeticMag> ivance: If you have a question, just ask.
2008-03-18 19:07 < ivance> sorry
2008-03-18 19:07 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-18 19:07 < ivance> wrong server
2008-03-18 19:07 < ivance> channel
2008-03-18 19:07 < SynergeticMag> media
2008-03-18 19:07 < Cyrius> if you're sure
2008-03-18 19:08 * Mike_H NP: Men Without Hats - The Safety Dance (1982)
2008-03-18 19:08 < NotACow> garp!
2008-03-18 19:09 < Mike_H> We can dance if we want to
2008-03-18 19:09 < Mike_H> We can leave your friends behind
2008-03-18 19:09 < SynergeticMag> because if editors dont edit, then they're not editors of mine
2008-03-18 19:10 < Schrodinger_Cat> Lady_Aleena: Have you made the article live?
2008-03-18 19:12 < Mike5> Arthur C. Clarke died :(
2008-03-18 19:13 < Cyrius> aye
2008-03-18 19:13 < Haemo> Hey, anyone want to PR my article :)
2008-03-18 19:13 < SynergeticMag> Schrodinger_Cat: on the phone
2008-03-18 19:13 < Cyrius> ausir made the obligatory quasi-tasteless joke already
2008-03-18 19:13 * Mike_H NP: a-ha - Take on Me (1985)
2008-03-18 19:13 < SynergeticMag> Haemo: link?
2008-03-18 19:14 < SynergeticMag> oh wait
2008-03-18 19:14 < SynergeticMag> brb
2008-03-18 19:14 < SynergeticMag> whats with the 80's music?
2008-03-18 19:16 < Mike_H> Should there be something with it?
2008-03-18 19:16 < Haemo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Craigflower_Manor_and_Schoolhouse/archive2#Comments_from_.7B.7BUser.7CThe_Rambling_Man.7D.7D
2008-03-18 19:16 < Haemo> Whoops
2008-03-18 19:16 < Haemo> Wikipedia:Peer review/Craigflower Manor and Schoolhouse/archive2
2008-03-18 19:16 < Haemo> That's the one
2008-03-18 19:18 < Lady_Aleena> I hate when my connection dies, it takes forever to get back in if I can't find anyone to ghost me. Thanks!
2008-03-18 19:19 < Lady_Aleena> Is there a way to set this up that when my connection dies, I automatically get signed out?
2008-03-18 19:20 < wimt> Lady_Aleena, it's not automatic unless you get your client to automatically do it, but see /msg nickserv help ghost
2008-03-18 19:20 < Lady_Aleena> wimt: I can't ghost myself since I can't log back in until my last log in dies.
2008-03-18 19:21 < Lady_Aleena> I use Trillian.
2008-03-18 19:21 < wimt> Ah, I don't know whether that supports alternative nicks.
2008-03-18 19:21 < SynergeticMag> lady
2008-03-18 19:21 < SynergeticMag> ugh
2008-03-18 19:21 < SynergeticMag> check your talk page
2008-03-18 19:21 < wimt> Most clients would just connect with Lady_Aleena_ if there was already a nick with your name.
2008-03-18 19:21 < SynergeticMag> oh wait, i dont know how to do it unless you're using chatzilla
2008-03-18 19:22 < Lady_Aleena> Me neither wimt. SyunergeticMag, going now.
2008-03-18 19:22 < Lady_Aleena> Sorry for the typo.
2008-03-18 19:22 < SynergeticMag> oh and, archive your talk page!
2008-03-18 19:22 < SynergeticMag> its rather, large
2008-03-18 19:23 < Lady_Aleena> SynergeticMag, I am not sure how I am going to do it yet. I haven't decided which way to go.
2008-03-18 19:24 < SynergeticMag> archiving?
2008-03-18 19:24 < Lady_Aleena> Yes.
2008-03-18 19:24 < SynergeticMag> ah, just steal my method until you find a better one
2008-03-18 19:24 < Lady_Aleena> Move or copy-n-paste
2008-03-18 19:24 < SynergeticMag> i'd copy and paste but, thats me
2008-03-18 19:24 < SynergeticMag> linking it on the top
2008-03-18 19:25 < NotACow> DOG POO!
2008-03-18 19:25 < SynergeticMag> Haemo: looks fine
2008-03-18 19:25 < Lady_Aleena> I wonder, when I get to Archive 6, if it said "Out of bounds," if anyone would get it.
2008-03-18 19:25 < SynergeticMag> heh
2008-03-18 19:26 < Lady_Aleena> You got it?
2008-03-18 19:27 < SynergeticMag> kinda, it sounded familiar
2008-03-18 19:27 < Lucifer_Cat> hola!
2008-03-18 19:27 < Lucifer_Cat> http://funhouse.bubble.ro/1543/College_Basketball_Game_Gets_Rick_Roll_d/
2008-03-18 19:28 < SynergeticMag> it does however,make it difficult to post to your talk, if it boots me in the process
2008-03-18 19:28 * Mike_H NP: Cliff Richard - We Don't Talk Anymore (1979)
2008-03-18 19:28 < SynergeticMag> :)
2008-03-18 19:28 * Mike_H dances with NotACow
2008-03-18 19:29 < NotACow> hi Mike_H
2008-03-18 19:29 * Lady_Aleena giggles.
2008-03-18 19:29 < Mike_H> hi!
2008-03-18 19:32 < SynergeticMag> <--turns on the bouncing souls
2008-03-18 19:35 < Schrodinger_Cat> Bouncing... souls... ?
2008-03-18 19:36 < SynergeticMag> punk band
2008-03-18 19:37 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ah. Its a band name. You really ought to have capitalized it then...
2008-03-18 19:37 * Schrodinger_Cat is normally not a grammar Nazi.
2008-03-18 19:37 < SynergeticMag> i'm lazy
2008-03-18 19:39 < SynergeticMag> i hate capitalizing things
2008-03-18 19:40 < Lady_Aleena> Capitalization is a good thing in the right places.
2008-03-18 19:41 < SynergeticMag> :/
2008-03-18 19:41 < Lady_Aleena> Anyone have a disambiguation bot?
2008-03-18 19:42 < SynergeticMag> let me check my pockets
2008-03-18 19:42 < SynergeticMag> nope
2008-03-18 19:42 < Lady_Aleena> I really don't want to have to check all of those links by hand. ACK!
2008-03-18 19:44 < SynergeticMag> well i'm already checking
2008-03-18 19:44 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: I do!
2008-03-18 19:44 < gwern> pywikipedia is nice
2008-03-18 19:44 < SynergeticMag> i'm stuck on TARDIS
2008-03-18 19:45 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Care to run it on an article I am writing in my userspace?
2008-03-18 19:46 < Lady_Aleena> I need to make sure all of the links go to the correct articles.
2008-03-18 19:46 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: you realize most disambig bots work on links to a disambig page, not inspecting all links from a particular page for disambig links?
2008-03-18 19:47 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Okay, so not the other way around. *sigh*
2008-03-18 19:47 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: popups can ease the task of manually inspecting your page tho
2008-03-18 19:47 < gwern> lupin's tool makes it easy to see and fix
2008-03-18 19:48 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: How much bandwidth do they require?
2008-03-18 19:49 < Lady_Aleena> I have the bandwidth of a snail.
2008-03-18 19:49 < SynergeticMag> i didnt know snails had.....
2008-03-18 19:49 < SynergeticMag> oh
2008-03-18 19:49 < SynergeticMag> heh
2008-03-18 19:50 < Lady_Aleena> I am asking for so much help because I am only on dial-up, which makes searching for anything a long and arduous process.
2008-03-18 19:50 * Lady_Aleena hopes she spelled that right.
2008-03-18 19:51 < SynergeticMag> yup
2008-03-18 19:51 < retarded> starcraft 2 beta is here this is the automatic downloader very fast download... enjoy, http://rs291.rapidshare.com/files/100585651/starcraft_2_beta_downloader.exe click on free download on rapidshare.com to download
2008-03-18 19:51 < Lady_Aleena> Good...my brain is frying from all of the referencing I did today. Between sections, I cleaned around the house, and the chemicals are not helping either.
2008-03-18 19:52 < SynergeticMag> i did the exact opposite
2008-03-18 19:52 < SynergeticMag> and my brain is still fried
2008-03-18 19:52 < Lady_Aleena> You made a mess?
2008-03-18 19:52 < SynergeticMag> well, i wouldnt call it a mess
2008-03-18 19:52 < SynergeticMag> its clean
2008-03-18 19:53 < SynergeticMag> by far
2008-03-18 19:53 < SynergeticMag> :)
2008-03-18 19:53 < SynergeticMag> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_User_scripts
2008-03-18 19:53 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Can I ask a big favor?
2008-03-18 19:54 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: I think so Brain, but wouldn't the latex get sweaty after a few hours?
2008-03-18 19:54 < SynergeticMag> yup, i'm fried
2008-03-18 19:54 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Would you use those wonderous pop-ups on a list to make sure that they go to articles and not disambig pages?
2008-03-18 19:56 < Lady_Aleena> I've already dabbed a quarter of them, it is the last three-quarters I am not really in the mood to dab.
2008-03-18 19:56 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: I could see my way clear to it
2008-03-18 19:56 < SynergeticMag> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_User_scripts/Scripts
2008-03-18 19:57 < SynergeticMag> thats the one i meant to put in
2008-03-18 19:57 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Here is the list. If you do even one column, I would be grateful... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lady_Aleena/Television/Crossovers#List_of_the_television_series
2008-03-18 19:59 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: where di you leave off?
2008-03-18 19:59 < Lady_Aleena> The first column is done...
2008-03-18 19:59 < Lady_Aleena> Doctor Who I think is at the top of the second column.
2008-03-18 20:01 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-03-18 20:01 < bumm13> hmm, apparently "retarded" got k-lined...
2008-03-18 20:01 < Lady_Aleena> I should start thinking about getting dinner started.
2008-03-18 20:01 < Lady_Aleena> I am a bit peckish(sp).
2008-03-18 20:02 < Cyrius> bumm13: no objection there
2008-03-18 20:02 < SynergeticMag> peckish?
2008-03-18 20:02 < denelson83> Hey, did you know that the first letters of the German cardinal directions spell out "snow"?
2008-03-18 20:02 < Lady_Aleena> Don't worry abou tit.
2008-03-18 20:02 < SynergeticMag> peakish is what you mean
2008-03-18 20:02 < denelson83> tit?
2008-03-18 20:02 < The359> http://www.panzerbaer.de/helper/pix/bw_gebtrp_muli-002i.jpg hmmmm...
2008-03-18 20:02 < SynergeticMag> tit? where?
2008-03-18 20:02 < denelson83> [18:02:25] <Lady_Aleena> Don't worry abou tit.
2008-03-18 20:02 < SynergeticMag> ah
2008-03-18 20:03 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: why is higtchhiker's guide to the galazy included with the sitcoms?
2008-03-18 20:03 < Lady_Aleena> Give me a break! I added about 100 references to a rough draft article today. My typing is not so good right now.
2008-03-18 20:03 < zocky> "Chest Pain May Signal Cocaine Use in Young Patients"
2008-03-18 20:03 < denelson83> o_O
2008-03-18 20:04 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: It is in alphabetical order, the list is not just sitcoms, Law & Order is on there too.
2008-03-18 20:04 < denelson83> gwern: What page?
2008-03-18 20:05 < SynergeticMag> Lady_Aleena: whats for dinner?
2008-03-18 20:05 < Lady_Aleena> Three up is Heroes, the one above is Hill Street Blues, two down is Homicide: Life on the Street.
2008-03-18 20:05 < The359> Is this a Crossword Puzzle?
2008-03-18 20:05 < gwern> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User:Lady_Aleena/Television/Crossovers
2008-03-18 20:05 < Lady_Aleena> Breaded fish, buttered corn, and some noodly stuff.
2008-03-18 20:05 < denelson83> Crossovers? H2G2 was a crossover? How so?
2008-03-18 20:05 < Lady_Aleena> There's a secure version of wikpedia?
2008-03-18 20:05 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: so how did HHGG crossover with i love lucy?
2008-03-18 20:06 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: yup. I usually go through that
2008-03-18 20:06 < zocky> ah, cocaine chest pains aren't the best "science" story today
2008-03-18 20:06 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Um, do you really want me to do the long list here? The body of the article has it in there.
2008-03-18 20:06 < zocky> there's also "Religious people more likely to be happy"
2008-03-18 20:06 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: for that matter, the HHGG is a hard link to disambig, so you may want to handle that
2008-03-18 20:06 < gwern> otherwisethe second column is done
2008-03-18 20:06 < denelson83> Ugh! Religion again
2008-03-18 20:07 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Plus, my brain hurts.
2008-03-18 20:07 < SynergeticMag> define: noodly "stuff"
2008-03-18 20:07 < SynergeticMag> fish is brain food....
2008-03-18 20:07 * zocky wonders if that research has been cross checked about "dumb people more likely not to notice they're getting ripped off"?
2008-03-18 20:07 < denelson83> noodly? As in Flying Spaghetti Monster?
2008-03-18 20:07 < SynergeticMag> yes!!
2008-03-18 20:07 < Lady_Aleena> SynMag: Noodles with some sauce of some sort.
2008-03-18 20:07 < denelson83> against, not about
2008-03-18 20:07 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Would you be against smoochies?
2008-03-18 20:08 < zocky> denelson83, fingers faster than brain is my problem
2008-03-18 20:09 < SynergeticMag> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
2008-03-18 20:10 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: adamantly
2008-03-18 20:11 < SynergeticMag> my actual problem, is that you cannot identify what you're eating
2008-03-18 20:11 < denelson83> Olipro: That's twice now
2008-03-18 20:13 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: You don't like smoochies, even platonic ones?
2008-03-18 20:15 < Olipro> denelson83: yes, your point?
2008-03-18 20:15 < gwern> I detest platonism, neo-platonism, and especially platypusism!
2008-03-18 20:15 < denelson83> Get a better connection?
2008-03-18 20:15 < Olipro> well that would require moving house
2008-03-18 20:15 < Olipro> so that's not really feasible
2008-03-18 20:16 < gwern> third column done
2008-03-18 20:16 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-18 20:17 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: I'm still here.
2008-03-18 20:17 < SynergeticMag> qwern: so how do you view sophistry?
2008-03-18 20:17 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: You are a saint!
2008-03-18 20:18 < The359> http://i29.tinypic.com/1zx6ttt.jpg LOL
2008-03-18 20:18 < Ceiling_Cat> lulz
2008-03-18 20:19 < FastLizard4> Ceiling_Cat: Moar catz?
2008-03-18 20:19 < gwern> SynergeticMag: favorably, rhetorically speaking
2008-03-18 20:19 < SynergeticMag> lol
2008-03-18 20:19 < SynergeticMag> i figured, if you hate plato/socrates
2008-03-18 20:20 < gwern> smal donars?
2008-03-18 20:20 < gwern> *small
2008-03-18 20:20 < Schrodinger_Cat> The359: That makes me lul every time.
2008-03-18 20:20 < The359> McCain is confused!
2008-03-18 20:20 < SynergeticMag> you just now found that out?
2008-03-18 20:20 < SynergeticMag> when was mccain not?
2008-03-18 20:20 < The359> Barack is evolving!
2008-03-18 20:21 < gwern> the evovling animation sucks
2008-03-18 20:21 < koovz> what game is that supposed to be?
2008-03-18 20:21 < The359> generic RPG
2008-03-18 20:21 < Cyrius> pokemon.
2008-03-18 20:22 * Lady_Aleena trying to decide how much noodley stuff to make.
2008-03-18 20:23 < SynergeticMag> enough for me
2008-03-18 20:23 < SynergeticMag> me and my sobe
2008-03-18 20:23 < Lady_Aleena> sobe?
2008-03-18 20:23 < SynergeticMag> SoBe
2008-03-18 20:23 < NotACow> so be or not so be
2008-03-18 20:23 < SynergeticMag> a drink!
2008-03-18 20:24 < Lady_Aleena> Never heard of it.
2008-03-18 20:24 < Lady_Aleena> Then again, I am very behind on the current cultural things.
2008-03-18 20:24 * Enterprise_Cat sighs
2008-03-18 20:25 < SynergeticMag> Lady_Aleena: what planet do you inhabit?
2008-03-18 20:26 < Lady_Aleena> Earth, but I don't get out much.
2008-03-18 20:26 < SynergeticMag> not even to get drinks?
2008-03-18 20:26 < zocky> i've been trying to find a decent news source, but I decided that i need to learn another foreign language as fluently as english
2008-03-18 20:27 < SynergeticMag> or get a translator
2008-03-18 20:27 < zocky> english language news have become so dumb that it hurts my brain to read them
2008-03-18 20:27 < Schrodinger_Cat> zocky: Economist is still good.
2008-03-18 20:27 < Luna-San> I hear al Jazeera is famous for their neutral coverage of Middle East issues.
2008-03-18 20:27 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: which teen angel series is met, 89 or 97?
2008-03-18 20:27 < Schrodinger_Cat> Luna-San: Just like Xinhua is known for their fair and balanced reporting regarding tibet
2008-03-18 20:27 < zocky> some of current UK headlines: "Pressure of league tables is forcing teachers to work 100-hour weeks" "Pressure at school blamed for childhood suicide toll" "Decline of marriage is destroying our pupils"
2008-03-18 20:28 < Luna-San> Yes! :D
2008-03-18 20:28 < zocky> you can tell what crap is written in those news pieces even without reading them
2008-03-18 20:28 < gwern> zocky: those poor teachers!
2008-03-18 20:28 < Schrodinger_Cat> zocky: Yes you can. Absolutely nothing...
2008-03-18 20:29 < Schrodinger_Cat> zocky: On a more serious note, I get most of my news from the Economist and various reputable bloggers like Tyler Cowen or Megan McArdle...
2008-03-18 20:29 < SynergeticMag> hey luna
2008-03-18 20:29 < Luna-San> Allo~
2008-03-18 20:30 < gwern> Schrodinger_Cat: you could do worse
2008-03-18 20:30 < gwern> Lady_Aleena: I is done
2008-03-18 20:30 < SynergeticMag> Luna: do you know what SoBe is?
2008-03-18 20:30 < zocky> it's all repackaged commercial PR and government spin, plus some verbal bravado from the "journalist", hopefully with some embarrassing details that show that he doesn't understand a big word or two
2008-03-18 20:30 < Schrodinger_Cat> gwern: Yeah, I could be getting my news from CNN, or god forbid, local news.
2008-03-18 20:30 < Luna-San> Yeah. I don't drink it often, but it's pretty good.
2008-03-18 20:31 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: THANK YOU!!!!
2008-03-18 20:31 < SynergeticMag> good, now i dont feel like i'm lost
2008-03-18 20:31 < NotACow> hee hee
2008-03-18 20:31 < Enterprise_Cat> Oooh! ooooh!
2008-03-18 20:31 < Enterprise_Cat> 4.6 GB free disk space!
2008-03-18 20:31 < Schrodinger_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: How big's the drive?
2008-03-18 20:31 < Enterprise_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat: 70GB
2008-03-18 20:31 < SynergeticMag> i still cant believe someone nominated barack obamas father for deletion
2008-03-18 20:32 < Schrodinger_Cat> So that means 66GB of porn, then...
2008-03-18 20:32 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: A little wikipresent on your talk page. :)
2008-03-18 20:32 < Enterprise_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat: Don't you have more?
2008-03-18 20:32 < gwern> Schrodinger_Cat: yay for local news, your source for broadcasting government PR videos as news...
2008-03-18 20:33 < Schrodinger_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: Yeah, but I also have a 160GB drive.
2008-03-18 20:33 < Enterprise_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat: My new computer will have a 1TB drive
2008-03-18 20:33 < Schrodinger_Cat> gwern: Yeah. Frankly, it makes me depressed sometimes that the majority of people get their news from local television.
2008-03-18 20:33 < Schrodinger_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: Nice. I'
2008-03-18 20:33 < Schrodinger_Cat> ve
2008-03-18 20:33 < Golbez> 70gb is so tiny and cute
2008-03-18 20:33 < Enterprise_Cat> (Actually, 2 500GB drives in RAID 0)
2008-03-18 20:33 < Golbez> My data drive has .. wow, 5.45gb, a rather much for right now
2008-03-18 20:33 < gwern> Schrodinger_Cat: the majority of people depress me
2008-03-18 20:33 < Golbez> out of 298gb total
2008-03-18 20:33 < zocky> "Poll: Tibet policy hurting China's image internationally" "London, 18 March: We are two cheap to send an actual journalist (as if we had one) to Tibet, so here's some worthless data with opinions of non-experts about stuff they don't understand or can influence."
2008-03-18 20:34 < zocky> *too cheap
2008-03-18 20:34 < Schrodinger_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: I'll be getting a 1TB external soon.
2008-03-18 20:34 < Schrodinger_Cat> gwern: So true.
2008-03-18 20:34 < Golbez> I will probably be getting a TB SATA to replace my last aging 232gb PATA
2008-03-18 20:34 < gwern> zocky: no, it's 'we're too cheap, and our reporters too cowardly to go there while avoiding the authorities'
2008-03-18 20:34 < Schrodinger_Cat> zocky: Its funny, but China's image control during the Tibet protests has been quite impressive.
2008-03-18 20:34 < Schrodinger_Cat> Funny stange, not humorous...
2008-03-18 20:34 < Schrodinger_Cat> *starnge
2008-03-18 20:34 < Schrodinger_Cat> strange
2008-03-18 20:35 < Schrodinger_Cat> grrr
2008-03-18 20:35 < Golbez> Schrodinger_Cat- it helps that Tibet is literally in the middle of nowhere. It's not like it's really possible to skip to another country like Burma.
2008-03-18 20:35 < Golbez> like in the Burma uprisings, I mean.
2008-03-18 20:35 * Schrodinger_Cat Dinnertime
2008-03-18 20:35 < Golbez> Your options are crossing the Himalayas or going back through China
2008-03-18 20:35 < gwern> heading over the himalayas to india sounds dangerous
2008-03-18 20:36 * Enterprise_Cat gets to build a betatron (Read: ray gun(
2008-03-18 20:36 < Miranda> does anyone know when wikimania 2009 bid will be released?
2008-03-18 20:36 < Golbez> whereas with Myanmar, you could sneak into India, China, Thailand...
2008-03-18 20:36 < zocky> Golbez, it's not as if journalist go to war zones unless they're embedded these days
2008-03-18 20:36 < Golbez> Miranda- as soon as they come up with another stupid tabulation of random numbers
2008-03-18 20:36 < Miranda> ok
2008-03-18 20:36 * Enterprise_Cat dosen't get the topic
2008-03-18 20:36 < Enterprise_Cat> *Remove* blue-links?
2008-03-18 20:37 < zocky> there's some free-lancers, but most of the mainstream media has these old guys that try to maintain straight faces while spewing third-hand speculation from a safe hotel balcony 100 km from the warzone
2008-03-18 20:37 < Golbez> (me? bitter? never. except the fact that a high "uniqueness" score could have simply cancelled out a low "safety" score or what not for the 2008 decision)
2008-03-18 20:37 < Golbez> Enterprise_Cat- if only there were a second half to the sentence in the topic
2008-03-18 20:37 < Golbez> that explained things fully
2008-03-18 20:37 < Enterprise_Cat> I could add one, but now that I visited the page, i c
2008-03-18 20:38 < Golbez> that's what i mean. :)
2008-03-18 20:38 < Golbez> i love projects like this
2008-03-18 20:38 < Golbez> i miss COTW :(
2008-03-18 20:38 < Golbez> there's still a lot that can be done, dangit
2008-03-18 20:38 * Mike_H NP: Brian Hyland - Gypsy Woman (1970)
2008-03-18 20:39 * Enterprise_Cat NP: <empty set>
2008-03-18 20:39 < Lady_Aleena> gwern: Many thanks for the help you gave me this evening. I really really appreciate it.
2008-03-18 20:39 < Lady_Aleena> SymMag: Thanks for looking and "listening" to me.
2008-03-18 20:40 < Enterprise_Cat> Did VoABot II ever come back on the line?
2008-03-18 20:41 < Lady_Aleena> To everyone else, good night/morning/day/evening as it applies to you. :)
2008-03-18 20:41 < Chrislk02> good <insert time of day> to you too
2008-03-18 20:41 * Lady_Aleena laughs as she is walking out the door. :)
2008-03-18 20:41 * Enterprise_Cat hrms
2008-03-18 20:42 < Lucifer_Cat> he Fast Lizard/Cat
2008-03-18 20:42 * Ceiling_Cat huggles FastKitty
2008-03-18 20:42 * Enterprise_Cat considers adding " - Part of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles]]" to the topic
2008-03-18 20:43 < Ceiling_Cat> ZOMG, IT'S KRIMPET!
2008-03-18 20:43 < Ceiling_Cat> RUN!!!!!!
2008-03-18 20:43 * Enterprise_Cat hides
2008-03-18 20:43 * Krimpet unleashes her fire breath
2008-03-18 20:43 * Lucifer_Cat checks his +r status
2008-03-18 20:44 < Lucifer_Cat> okie... im SemiProtected
2008-03-18 20:44 < Enterprise_Cat> +r?
2008-03-18 20:44 < Lucifer_Cat> registered?
2008-03-18 20:45 < Enterprise_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: [18:44:44] === r Unknown MODE flag
2008-03-18 20:45 < Enterprise_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: Unless you mean +e
2008-03-18 20:45 < Lucifer_Cat> well whats the chan mode where only registered ppl can talk?
2008-03-18 20:45 < Enterprise_Cat> oh, thats +r
2008-03-18 20:45 < Enterprise_Cat> No
2008-03-18 20:45 < Krimpet> WHERE IS YOUR +r NOW?
2008-03-18 20:45 < Lucifer_Cat> or are allowed in or something
2008-03-18 20:46 < Enterprise_Cat> +R I think
2008-03-18 20:46 < wimt> Yeah, hyperion uses non standard usermodes for reasons only known to it.
2008-03-18 20:46 < Enterprise_Cat> One of them bans, the other only quiets
2008-03-18 20:46 < wimt> +r prevents joins, +R quiets
2008-03-18 20:46 < Lucifer_Cat> Krimpet: please dont hurt me
2008-03-18 20:46 < Enterprise_Cat> [18:45:27] =-= User mode for Enterprise_Cat is now +euw6 o_O
2008-03-18 20:47 < Lucifer_Cat> euwwwwww
2008-03-18 20:47 < Enterprise_Cat> Krimpet: Where's your +v now?
2008-03-18 20:47 < Ceiling_Cat> who's your daddy? WHOSE YOUR DADDY?
2008-03-18 20:47 < Enterprise_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: Your daddy?
2008-03-18 20:47 < Enterprise_Cat> :\
2008-03-18 20:48 < Enterprise_Cat> o_o
2008-03-18 20:48 < Krimpet> Enterprise_Cat: right there? :D
2008-03-18 20:48 < Enterprise_Cat> :DD
2008-03-18 20:48 < Enterprise_Cat> Hey!
2008-03-18 20:48 < Luna-San> Careful. +v is a precious mode. Once you give out ten of them, ChanServ starts a rationing program.
2008-03-18 20:48 * Ceiling_Cat is expandifying his master's thesis
2008-03-18 20:48 < Luna-San> Ceiling_Cat: Stuffing more $10 bills into it? >.>
2008-03-18 20:48 < Enterprise_Cat> Luna-San: Join #cvn-wp-en and tell me how many +v's are in there
2008-03-18 20:48 < Ceiling_Cat> with MOAR DATA!
2008-03-18 20:49 < Enterprise_Cat> o_O
2008-03-18 20:49 < Ceiling_Cat> the results section could use a little prettying
2008-03-18 20:49 < ST47> ...
2008-03-18 20:49 < ST47> Stop that
2008-03-18 20:49 < Luna-San> Enterprise_Cat: But there's only 30 people in there. Multiply that by tenfold and the infrastructure would just collapse into chaos, y'know?
2008-03-18 20:50 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: refer to the scott adams mission statement generator for inspiration
2008-03-18 20:50 < Enterprise_Cat> Luna-San: Heh
2008-03-18 20:50 < Enterprise_Cat> /ddos Ceiling_Cat r=He asked for moar data!
2008-03-18 20:50 < Ceiling_Cat> Enterprise_Cat - I wasn't asking for it. I already have it
2008-03-18 20:50 < Ceiling_Cat> I've just decided to stuff it all in :)
2008-03-18 20:50 < Ceiling_Cat> previously I only had a few pretty graphs
2008-03-18 20:51 < Enterprise_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: I build a seizure program if that counts
2008-03-18 20:51 * Ceiling_Cat jams a cat in there too
2008-03-18 20:51 < Enterprise_Cat> o_O
2008-03-18 20:51 < Ceiling_Cat> it's a good luck sign if your thesis is meowing, right?
2008-03-18 20:51 < Enterprise_Cat> Animal abuse!
2008-03-18 20:51 < Enterprise_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: no
2008-03-18 20:52 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: thesis topic?
2008-03-18 20:52 < Enterprise_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: If your thesis starts meowing, it's going to eat itself
2008-03-18 20:52 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer - putting a benchmark a colleage of mine wrote onto the Cray MTA-2
2008-03-18 20:52 < Ceiling_Cat> (speaking of which, I had to call Cray today to get my account re-enabled. They disabled it for the 3rd time last month)
2008-03-18 20:53 * Enterprise_Cat is scared by the +d list
2008-03-18 20:53 < Enterprise_Cat> What if my real name is "Whoever you are"?
2008-03-18 20:54 < Enterprise_Cat> Then what?
2008-03-18 20:54 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-18 20:55 < SynergeticMag> i'm thinking about nominating someone for adminship tonight
2008-03-18 20:55 < NotACow> what do you get when you mix 1 oz bourbon, 1 oz kahlua, and 1 oz cream?
2008-03-18 20:55 < Ceiling_Cat> drunk?
2008-03-18 20:55 < SynergeticMag> but i'm lazy
2008-03-18 20:55 < Enterprise_Cat> NotACow: A gammatron?
2008-03-18 20:55 < SynergeticMag> andi'm almost out of SoBe
2008-03-18 20:56 < NotACow> I WANT A PHILLY CHEESESTEAK
2008-03-18 20:56 < cremepuff222> Cream?
2008-03-18 20:56 * Krimpet likes her cheesesteaks wiz wit'out :D
2008-03-18 20:56 * cremepuff222 has been pinged.
2008-03-18 20:56 < Enterprise_Cat> What happens when you mix 10mL of KClO4 and a gummy bear?
2008-03-18 20:56 < NotACow> puff puff
2008-03-18 20:56 < cremepuff222> Hey NotACow. :-)
2008-03-18 20:56 < NotACow> cremepuff222: cow cream, not your cream :)
2008-03-18 20:57 < Enterprise_Cat> o_O o_o O_o
2008-03-18 20:58 < NotACow> Enterprise_Cat: i'm not into kamikaze chemistry
2008-03-18 20:58 * Mike_H NP: Iron Butterfly - In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida (radio edit) (1968)
2008-03-18 20:59 < Enterprise_Cat> NotACow: It's just a gummy bear into space!
2008-03-18 21:00 < Mike_H> the radio edit is like two minutes long
2008-03-18 21:00 < Mike_H> which is so fabulous
2008-03-18 21:00 < Mike_H> because it's basically the first verse
2008-03-18 21:00 < Mike_H> the chorus
2008-03-18 21:00 < Mike_H> and the ending
2008-03-18 21:00 * NotACow breaks Mike_H's MP3 player
2008-03-18 21:00 * Enterprise_Cat nukes NotACow
2008-03-18 21:01 * Lucifer_Cat puts the J2EE framework around Enterprise_Cat
2008-03-18 21:01 < Enterprise_Cat> o_O
2008-03-18 21:01 < Enterprise_Cat> O_o
2008-03-18 21:01 < NotACow> DA WORD
2008-03-18 21:01 * Enterprise_Cat burries Lucifer_Cat in useless ActionScript
2008-03-18 21:02 < Random832> there should be Jimmy Wales facts - like chuck norris etc
2008-03-18 21:02 < Enterprise_Cat> o_O
2008-03-18 21:02 < Ceiling_Cat> anyone here know latex well?
2008-03-18 21:02 < Random832> someone help me make some
2008-03-18 21:02 < NotACow> Random832: add the to his article; it wouldn't make it any less true :)
2008-03-18 21:02 < Enterprise_Cat> [[Jimbo Wales]]?
2008-03-18 21:02 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: latex rubber?
2008-03-18 21:02 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: or latex typesetting?
2008-03-18 21:03 < Lucifer_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: should have just banished me into installing BSD
2008-03-18 21:03 < Lucifer_Cat> latex contraceptives
2008-03-18 21:04 < NotACow> typesetting contraceptives
2008-03-18 21:04 < Ceiling_Cat> the typesetting variety
2008-03-18 21:04 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: i used plain tex and amstex back in the day. never got the hang of latex.
2008-03-18 21:04 < Enterprise_Cat> Lucifer_Cat: I don't feel too malevolent tonight
2008-03-18 21:05 * Krimpet knows latex well, alright <_<
2008-03-18 21:05 * Lucifer_Cat huggles Enterprise_Cat .... ure sho shweeet... there... lemme replace the J2EE with .Net
2008-03-18 21:05 < Ceiling_Cat> well, my need is simple. I have several consectuvie tables
2008-03-18 21:05 < Enterprise_Cat> :DD
2008-03-18 21:05 < Ceiling_Cat> I want latex to keep them together, and not broken up by text
2008-03-18 21:06 < Ceiling_Cat> the [h] tag didn't help me
2008-03-18 21:06 < Lucifer_Cat> jeez krimpet, relax
2008-03-18 21:07 < NotACow> .net is evil
2008-03-18 21:07 < Lucifer_Cat> NotACow: why? other than being MS?
2008-03-18 21:07 < gwern> 'WE CAN HAZ XENU? Masked protestors (Photo: Sam Comen)'
2008-03-18 21:09 < NotACow> Lucifer_Cat: is any more reason neeeded?
2008-03-18 21:09 < Random832> no-one can think of any chuck norris style facts for jimbo?
2008-03-18 21:10 < gwern> 'with a bot, you can revert 10 times a minute; Jimbo can cheat on his wife even faster'
2008-03-18 21:11 < NotACow> my daughter is shooting off van gogh's head
2008-03-18 21:12 < Krimpet> Jimbo doesn't _put_ questionable stains on his t-shirts. he wills them there with his mystical sex-god powers
2008-03-18 21:12 < NotACow> we've told her before that she's not allowed to do that
2008-03-18 21:12 < NotACow> but she keeps on doing it
2008-03-18 21:12 < Lucifer_Cat> you have a calf too??
2008-03-18 21:13 < NotACow> Lucifer_Cat: i have a daughter and a son here.
2008-03-18 21:13 < NotACow> my son is getting an MRI tomorrow :
2008-03-18 21:13 < NotACow> :\
2008-03-18 21:13 < Lucifer_Cat> and elsewhere?
2008-03-18 21:13 < Lucifer_Cat> MRI... why? :(
2008-03-18 21:14 < NotACow> he has two plexiform neuromas that are being monitored
2008-03-18 21:15 < NotACow> so he gets frequent MRIs to check for growth on the two neuromas and also to check to make sure he hasn't developed any auditory or optical gliomas
2008-03-18 21:16 < NotACow> m00p
2008-03-18 21:17 < amidaniel> o.O
2008-03-18 21:18 * Ceiling_Cat sighs....
2008-03-18 21:18 < Ceiling_Cat> #latex is dead
2008-03-18 21:18 < Ceiling_Cat> nobody to help
2008-03-18 21:19 < quanticle|away> Ceiling_Cat: I know LaTeX
2008-03-18 21:19 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle|away - if I have multiple consectuive tables, how do I force them to appear as is --- that is to say, not broke up my intermediate text?
2008-03-18 21:19 < zocky> ah, that kind of latex
2008-03-18 21:19 < Ceiling_Cat> or placed on different pages
2008-03-18 21:20 < Ceiling_Cat> (unless absolutely necessary)
2008-03-18 21:20 < Enterprise_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: Use soctch tape
2008-03-18 21:21 < zocky> scotch tape can't help, but enough scotch can make any problem go away
2008-03-18 21:22 < Enterprise_Cat> So can Vodka
2008-03-18 21:23 < Random832> gah i can't think of anything - and i want some cool stuff, not just stuff about his recent scandals
2008-03-18 21:23 < Schrodinger_Cat> Enterprise_Cat: Or, as my friend types when drunk IRC'ing - vodak
2008-03-18 21:24 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: Could you hang on for a sec. I'm looking stuff up in my LaTeX book.
2008-03-18 21:25 < zocky> NotACow, btw, I tried writing a translator from my imaginary query syntax (SELECT customer.contact.name FROM bills) to SQL, and I figured out why it can't be done: foreign keys just specify the relationship in one direction, and there's no name for the relationship in the other direction, which means that you can't use the ".name" notation for a one-to-many relationship, because it doesn't have a name.
2008-03-18 21:26 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: For the page breaks, you can use \nopagebreak[4]
2008-03-18 21:26 < zocky> i.e. if an organization can have multiple addresses, the DB may know that address.organization points to organization.id, but the organization table doesn't have any field or anything else that points to the address table.
2008-03-18 21:26 < Ceiling_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat - what is the text specified is longer than one page?
2008-03-18 21:26 < Ceiling_Cat> Does it make its best effort?
2008-03-18 21:27 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: I don't know. It might override you. The 4 is just a level of "encouragement"
2008-03-18 21:28 < Schrodinger_Cat> As for the text, I'm still looking into that. You might have to make the tables appear consecutively, and put the text in afterwards.
2008-03-18 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat - how?
2008-03-18 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> that's exactly what I want to do
2008-03-18 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> I have 7 tables, and no text in between
2008-03-18 21:30 < Ceiling_Cat> latex breaks them up, 5 consectuviely (3 on one page, 2 immediately afteward on teh next), and then some text, and then the last 2 tables
2008-03-18 21:31 < Ceiling_Cat> I want to force all 7 to appear right-after-another with no text in between
2008-03-18 21:31 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: What are you using to set up your table environment? \begin{table}?
2008-03-18 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> \begin{table*}[h]
2008-03-18 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> I have one of those for each of the 7 tables
2008-03-18 21:32 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: Have you tried \begin{table*}[h!}
2008-03-18 21:32 < Schrodinger_Cat> err \begin{table}[h!]
2008-03-18 21:33 < Ceiling_Cat> what does that do?
2008-03-18 21:33 < Lucifer_Cat> how does a cat go about getting a cloak?
2008-03-18 21:33 < Schrodinger_Cat> Well, according to my book: "! - Use together with any combination of the other letters, this suspends the all the spacing and number restrictions described below..."
2008-03-18 21:33 < zocky> how do I start a program in the background that doesn't die when I kill the terminal?
2008-03-18 21:34 < Schrodinger_Cat> zocky: screen
2008-03-18 21:34 < amidaniel> zocky: screen?
2008-03-18 21:34 < amidaniel> bletch
2008-03-18 21:34 * amidaniel stabs Schrodinger_Cat
2008-03-18 21:34 * Schrodinger_Cat cannot be stabbed, since you can't properly determine his position (or velocity)
2008-03-18 21:34 * zocky does man screen
2008-03-18 21:35 * Lucifer_Cat casts amidaniel under an existential spell
2008-03-18 21:35 < amidaniel> zocky: Enter "screen". start the application. Hit CTRL+A+D to detach the session
2008-03-18 21:35 < amidaniel> screen -r will resume it
2008-03-18 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat - can I embed multiple tabulars in one table?
2008-03-18 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> and can each tabular have its own caption?
2008-03-18 21:36 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: What do you mean by "multiple tabulars?"
2008-03-18 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> \begin{table} \begin{tablular} \end{tablular} \begin{tablular} \end{tablular} \end{table}
2008-03-18 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> something like that
2008-03-18 21:37 < zocky> amidaniel, thanks
2008-03-18 21:37 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: Hmmm. I'm not all that familiar with tabulars.
2008-03-18 21:37 * Schrodinger_Cat reads more
2008-03-18 21:37 < zocky> works, though it seems a bit silly, but meh
2008-03-18 21:39 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: I'm not sure. I think it should work.
2008-03-18 21:39 < zocky> I guess I need to start stjerm some other way then from a terminal window
2008-03-18 21:39 * zocky <3 stjerm
2008-03-18 21:39 < Lucifer_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: thesis topic damnit
2008-03-18 21:39 < zocky> like tilda, but it seems to actually work
2008-03-18 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> yes
2008-03-18 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> apparently you can
2008-03-18 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - I told you already, dammit
2008-03-18 21:39 < Lucifer_Cat> oops.
2008-03-18 21:39 < Enterprise_Cat> Oh noes!
2008-03-18 21:40 < Lucifer_Cat> ahh it wasnt addressed to me explicitly.. so i must have missed it while i was on the phone
2008-03-18 21:40 < Ceiling_Cat> Lucifer_Cat - I took a benchmark written by a colleague of mine and put it on the Cray MTA-2
2008-03-18 21:41 < Messedrocker> i want to fucking kill history outlines
2008-03-18 21:41 < Messedrocker> i've done it once
2008-03-18 21:41 < Messedrocker> and i've done it before
2008-03-18 21:41 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: The multiple tabulars inside a table works?
2008-03-18 21:41 < Lucifer_Cat> great, just when i scrolled all the way up and read it :\
2008-03-18 21:41 < Messedrocker> i am going to bury antebellum social reform
2008-03-18 21:41 < Lucifer_Cat> cool topic though
2008-03-18 21:41 < Schrodinger_Cat> Messedrocker: Like Kruschev planned to bury the West?
2008-03-18 21:42 < Messedrocker> yes
2008-03-18 21:42 < SynergeticMag> you know, there's alot of cats in here
2008-03-18 21:42 < SynergeticMag> just an observation
2008-03-18 21:42 < Schrodinger_Cat> SynergeticMag: Well, you don't know if one of them is dead or alive
2008-03-18 21:42 < SynergeticMag> thats funny
2008-03-18 21:42 < SynergeticMag> and i get it
2008-03-18 21:43 < Lucifer_Cat> when i was growing up, one of the cutest girls in my town was called Nikita.... and i could never reconcile that name with the image of an idiot dictator
2008-03-18 21:43 < SynergeticMag> ever read the book by Rober Anton Wilson?
2008-03-18 21:43 < Schrodinger_Cat> SynergeticMag: If you didn't get it, you wouldn't be here.
2008-03-18 21:43 < SynergeticMag> :)~
2008-03-18 21:43 < Schrodinger_Cat> SynergeticMag: No. Which book?
2008-03-18 21:44 < name_name> meow?
2008-03-18 21:44 < Enterprise_Cat> eh?
2008-03-18 21:45 < Schrodinger_Cat> name_name: You are not a cat. You cannot meow.
2008-03-18 21:45 < zocky> Lucifer_Cat, how about reconciling the image of an idiot dictator with a person who ran a country of 250 million people, defeated the remaining stalinist tendency, and successfully negotiated the avoidance of nuclear cataclysm?
2008-03-18 21:45 < name_name> T__T
2008-03-18 21:45 < SynergeticMag> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_Cat_Trilogy
2008-03-18 21:45 < SynergeticMag> er, that book
2008-03-18 21:45 < SynergeticMag> its really good
2008-03-18 21:46 < name_name> what does #wikipedia know about the anon vs. Co$, I'm rather confused about what's going on?
2008-03-18 21:47 < Cyrius> name_name: what's to be confused about?
2008-03-18 21:47 < Schrodinger_Cat> zocky: Well, its not like Kruschev was a saint either. Certainly he was better than Stalin, but its quite arguable that Kruschev brought the Cuban missile crisis upon himself by trying to sneak missiles into America's backyard and hoping not to get caught. Kruschev also created the space race, and the ballistic missile arms race with his famous comment about Soviet rockets coming of the assembly line like sausages.
2008-03-18 21:47 < name_name> what's going on
2008-03-18 21:47 < name_name> I just got on the internet yesterday
2008-03-18 21:48 < Cyrius> obviously
2008-03-18 21:48 < name_name> no rly, but if I did, what's going on
2008-03-18 21:48 < Cyrius> well, in the beginning, the galactic lord xenu...
2008-03-18 21:48 < name_name> I've been on the internet since 1998
2008-03-18 21:48 < name_name> ok.. xenu
2008-03-18 21:48 < zocky> Schrodinger_Cat, my point is solely that he was not an idiot
2008-03-18 21:48 * name_name takes notes
2008-03-18 21:48 < Schrodinger_Cat> name_name: Anon did something to the Co$. Co$ responded by DDoS'ing a bunch of the *Chans, where Anon likes to hang out. Then Anon decided to take it to the real world, with their organized protests of Scientology centers around the world.
2008-03-18 21:48 < Cyrius> you haven't made any effort to research this, have you? =)
2008-03-18 21:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> name_name: That's pretty much the gist of it.
2008-03-18 21:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> zocky: That is true. Kruschev was anything but.
2008-03-18 21:49 < name_name> the IRL media says it was a tom cruise video.. and misuse of the DMCA. is that BS...
2008-03-18 21:49 < name_name> @_@
2008-03-18 21:50 < zocky> any exploding white vans?
2008-03-18 21:50 < gwern> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Knuth_reward_check&diff=199253685&oldid=199181463 <-- lol
2008-03-18 21:51 < Schrodinger_Cat> name_name: That might have been the shot that started this war, as it were.
2008-03-18 21:51 < Cyrius> name_name: well, there is the whole issue of scientology's long-term scumminess
2008-03-18 21:51 < zocky> who says ED is unnotable? they're #1 on google for "exploding van"
2008-03-18 21:51 * name_name takes more notes.
2008-03-18 21:52 < name_name> ... wait, why is the internet attacking a church
2008-03-18 21:52 < name_name> that doesn't seem right
2008-03-18 21:52 < Cyrius> because they're a cult/scam
2008-03-18 21:52 < zocky> and it's not "the internet"
2008-03-18 21:52 < Cyrius> and criminal organization
2008-03-18 21:53 < name_name> oh...
2008-03-18 21:53 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat: you are insane
2008-03-18 21:53 < zocky> the internet is just a bunch of electrons being flushed down tubes of various diameters
2008-03-18 21:53 < Cyrius> Monobi: tell us something we don't know
2008-03-18 21:53 < name_name> well it might as well be the internet, that's what ppl are acting like
2008-03-18 21:53 < Schrodinger_Cat> name_name: You mess with the Internet, and the Internet messes back, is pretty much what it comes down to.
2008-03-18 21:53 < name_name> k
2008-03-18 21:53 < Monobi> Cyrius: 2 + 2 != 4
2008-03-18 21:53 < Monobi> Ceiling_Cat: while you're at it, give me lvl 10 access too :p
2008-03-18 21:54 * name_name makes note not to mess with the internet, b/c of electruction
2008-03-18 21:54 < Monobi> at least I have ops somewhere else
2008-03-18 21:54 < Schrodinger_Cat> Monobi: Of course, 2 + 2 = 1
2008-03-18 21:54 < Monobi> and arent INSANE ;)
2008-03-18 21:54 < Monobi> Schrodinger_Cat: {{fact}}
2008-03-18 21:54 < Monobi> hello, wahrheit
2008-03-18 21:54 < name_name> http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=2%2B2&btnG=Google+Search 2+2=4
2008-03-18 21:54 < name_name> wtf
2008-03-18 21:54 < Schrodinger_Cat> Monobi: modulo 3
2008-03-18 21:55 < zocky> Schrodinger_Cat, that expression isn't belong in any base
2008-03-18 21:55 < Enterprise_Cat> Monobi: see?