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2008-03-17 20:07 * Seddon69 enjoys the GB of bandwisth he has
2008-03-17 20:07 < habnabit> DUDEZ WHY IS WIKIPEDIA DOWN
2008-03-17 20:07 < Gracenotes> who says conspiracy theorists use *facts*? c'mon, now
2008-03-17 20:07 < habnabit> I HAVE A PAPER DUE TOMORROW
2008-03-17 20:07 < Seddon69> alll going to waste :P
2008-03-17 20:07 < Mr_Gustafson> ooh, site is back up!
2008-03-17 20:07 < recourse> Random833: they work really really well
2008-03-17 20:07 < Rinn> ANSWERS.COM IS INSUFFICIENT
2008-03-17 20:07 < Master_son> use real sources :P
2008-03-17 20:07 < wimt> habnabit, calm down, it's coming back :-)
2008-03-17 20:07 < ShakespeareFan00> habnit; You could read a book?
2008-03-17 20:07 < Rinn> I NEED THE ASTOUNDING INSIGHT ONLY AVAILABLE THROUGH WIKIPEDIA
2008-03-17 20:07 * Mr_Gustafson made everyone look
2008-03-17 20:07 < karlp15498654965> HOLY FUCKING CUNT WIKIPEDIA IS DOWN!!!
2008-03-17 20:07 < digital_me> Master_son: yes but how can he find real sources without wiki?
2008-03-17 20:07 < Stormscape> ...
2008-03-17 20:07 < tepples> Master_son: real sources are in the References section
2008-03-17 20:07 < RattleMan> ...
2008-03-17 20:07 < Rinn> OH HORRORS!
2008-03-17 20:07 < TheLetterE> karlp15498654965: keep yourself mature please
2008-03-17 20:07 < Pilotguy> karlp15498654965- Please cool it
2008-03-17 20:07 < Kerotan> Don't feed the trolls.
2008-03-17 20:07 < pjoter> karlp15498654965: lets keep this conversation family friendly
2008-03-17 20:07 < eadthem> ya assign each balancer a diff ip and round robin them round robin DNS witch means that once you connect once to a site your OS/Router/Browser wont ask for another DNS lookup so it will continue to use that IP it got from the first round robin lookup for some time
2008-03-17 20:07 < pjoter> j/k
2008-03-17 20:07 < catzilla> this channel doesn't do banning?
2008-03-17 20:08 < TheLetterE> yes catzilla
2008-03-17 20:08 < reisio> catzilla: ?
2008-03-17 20:08 < Zginder> Are there details as to why wikipedia is down
2008-03-17 20:08 < Pilotguy> catzilla- Let's not find out :P
2008-03-17 20:08 < Rinn> catzilla: Nope. Try spamming, you'll see.
2008-03-17 20:08 < Almar> lulz
2008-03-17 20:08 < TheLetterE> lol.
2008-03-17 20:08 < tepples> bans are handed out when *needed*
2008-03-17 20:08 < RattleMan> It has ~13 bans right now
2008-03-17 20:08 < catzilla> heh
2008-03-17 20:08 < Jtkiefer> Catzilla, it does when the admins get off their buts to actually do anything
2008-03-17 20:08 * Juliancolton can't stand the wiki being down much longer
2008-03-17 20:08 < catzilla> haha rinn
2008-03-17 20:08 < TheLetterE> Zginder: packet loss issues
2008-03-17 20:08 < Jtkiefer> *butts
2008-03-17 20:08 < Almar> I FEEL SO STUPID WITHOUT WIKIPEDIA
2008-03-17 20:08 < ShakespeareFan00> Anyone in contact with Brion?
2008-03-17 20:08 < catzilla> or devoicing then
2008-03-17 20:08 < recourse> eadthem: why even do that? RRDNS sucks for the most part. get a decent loadbalancer and you can use virtual IP's and some better load balacing than just RRDNS
2008-03-17 20:08 < catzilla> hi almar
2008-03-17 20:08 < Pilotguy> Jtkiefer- exactly.
2008-03-17 20:08 < pjoter> jiiiiha
2008-03-17 20:08 < TheLetterE> Yes Shakespeare
2008-03-17 20:08 < Almar> hey catzilla =D
2008-03-17 20:08 < Jtkiefer> Shakespeare, he's probably in the dev channel
2008-03-17 20:08 < catzilla> i better stop spamming this wonderfully useful channel
2008-03-17 20:08 < denelson83> Jtkiefer: Not admins, but developers, developers, developers, developers </ballmer>
2008-03-17 20:08 < RattleMan> IT'S UP FOR ME :D
2008-03-17 20:08 < ShakespeareFan00> Whats the offical word at present?
2008-03-17 20:08 < gwern> is WP up?
2008-03-17 20:08 < wimt> ShakespeareFan00, yes he's on it, not that there's a lot he can do as it's upstream of WP
2008-03-17 20:08 < Rinn> Zginder: They took it down to delete all the articles on webcomics and fictional universes.
2008-03-17 20:08 < TheLetterE> Brion and the development team are on the job.
2008-03-17 20:08 < TheLetterE> Packet loss issues.
2008-03-17 20:08 < DeadEyeArrow> ya can always bust out your cell and view wapedia
2008-03-17 20:08 < pjoter> hey its up for me too!
2008-03-17 20:08 < gwern> oh, I guess not
2008-03-17 20:08 < Mark_Ryan> Zginder: some sort of routing issue at the server facility in Florida is preventing packets from reaching/being sent out from the Wikipedia database servers located there
2008-03-17 20:08 < ALLSTARecho> shouldn'ta pissed off the durka durkas with all those muhammad images O_o
2008-03-17 20:08 < Rinn> When it comes back up, they'll say they were lost in the database failure.
2008-03-17 20:09 < recourse> the dev team? packet loss? why not network engineers?
2008-03-17 20:09 < Kerotan> Status: Back for some, down for others: from #wikipedia-en
2008-03-17 20:09 < eadthem> DNS is slow so its a real fast trick to just simply skip DNS lookups unless your ip data for it is old or youve never done a lookup in the current session
2008-03-17 20:09 < pjoter> it's up for me but it's more fun in here
2008-03-17 20:09 < denelson83> They are network engineers, recourse
2008-03-17 20:09 < Gracenotes> ShakespeareFan00: a problem upstream from here, says brion
2008-03-17 20:09 < ShakespeareFan00> OK
2008-03-17 20:09 < ShakespeareFan00> Any idea how far upstream?
2008-03-17 20:09 < Gracenotes> meaning data can't get to the WM servers easily -- high latency, packet loss, etc.
2008-03-17 20:09 < ShakespeareFan00> Are we talking backbone here?
2008-03-17 20:09 < recourse> why dev team then?
2008-03-17 20:09 < Rinn> ShakespeareFan00: Just keep going until you hit the waterfall.
2008-03-17 20:09 < Mark_Ryan> so what, the best we can do is bitch and moan at the server colo people to fix it all?
2008-03-17 20:09 < Crasy> Wait, wait.
2008-03-17 20:09 < Juliancolton> Status: Many are down, few are back
2008-03-17 20:09 * Seddon69 feels the knowledge of wikipedia flow through him, i have a high wiki-chlorian count
2008-03-17 20:09 < recourse> I hear dev and i think coders..
2008-03-17 20:09 < Gracenotes> ShakespeareFan00: maybe. I haven't read
2008-03-17 20:09 < Pilotguy> Check #wikimedia-tech
2008-03-17 20:09 < ShakespeareFan00> Rinn:??
2008-03-17 20:09 < Kerotan> You know what would be funny right now, a net split.
2008-03-17 20:09 < Crasy> So if wikipedia is upstream, is it some sort of tuna?
2008-03-17 20:09 < JT> recourse: why get hung up on terminology?
2008-03-17 20:09 < Crasy> I would wiki it..
2008-03-17 20:09 < Mark_Ryan> recourse: because they run the servers, and also write much of the software which runs on them too
2008-03-17 20:10 < wimt> ShakespeareFan00, I don't think quite that far, but certainly wider than just WP
2008-03-17 20:10 < Crasy> But wikipedia is down.
2008-03-17 20:10 < pjoter> lol
2008-03-17 20:10 < Jtkiefer> Pilotguy, I think I may still be banned from there
2008-03-17 20:10 < Rinn> I mean, if you can swim up the waterfall, that's cool.
2008-03-17 20:10 < Zginder> Germain is not working either
2008-03-17 20:10 < recourse> JT: cuz I got a headache and I'm being a little bitch
2008-03-17 20:10 < Rinn> But most people stop there.
2008-03-17 20:10 < ShakespeareFan00> Rinn: LOL
2008-03-17 20:10 < Seddon69> am i the only one who can use it?
2008-03-17 20:10 < Pilotguy> Jtkiefer- :(
2008-03-17 20:10 < Gracenotes> NOISE NOISE NOISE NOISE NOISE SIGNAL NOISE NOISE
2008-03-17 20:10 < TheLetterE> Please keep calm. The developers are trying their best to get the systems back to speed. Your patience is most appreciated in this time.
2008-03-17 20:10 < gwern> hm. WP is sort of up now
2008-03-17 20:10 < Crasy> Hold up. What kind of packets are we loosing? Are they metal?
2008-03-17 20:10 < pjoter> slow D O W N
2008-03-17 20:10 < Juliancolton> Seddon, check my watchlist for me :P
2008-03-17 20:10 < Crasy> I have a metal detector.
2008-03-17 20:10 < Rinn> HOW CAN I BE CALM DURING THIS MADNESS?!?
2008-03-17 20:10 < Jtkiefer> Pilotguy, no I'm not but it wouldn't have surprised me had I been
2008-03-17 20:10 < Crasy> I can mail it.
2008-03-17 20:10 < Kerotan> I agree Gracenotes.
2008-03-17 20:10 < Gracenotes> TheLetterE: who died and made you spiritual leader? :P
2008-03-17 20:10 * Mr_Gustafson suggests folks don't flood the tech channels... the devs probably have enough on their hands
2008-03-17 20:10 < Mark_Ryan> Your call is important to us.
2008-03-17 20:10 < TheLetterE> Gracenotes: me
2008-03-17 20:10 < ALLSTARecho> BetacommandBot tooka shit in the servers and left a notice that they were being deleted soon. O_o
2008-03-17 20:10 < TheLetterE> xD
2008-03-17 20:11 < DeadEyeArrow> rofl
2008-03-17 20:11 < TheLetterE> ALLSTARecho: shhh
2008-03-17 20:11 * The359 wonders why more people aren't being shuffled to the overflow room
2008-03-17 20:11 < Seddon69> wikipedia is currently unavailable, please leave a message after the tone
2008-03-17 20:11 < Seddon69> BEEEEEP
2008-03-17 20:11 < Pilotguy> Jtkiefer- heh
2008-03-17 20:11 < TheLetterE> we could set +i
2008-03-17 20:11 < pjoter> lo
2008-03-17 20:11 < TheLetterE> but
2008-03-17 20:11 < TheLetterE> why?
2008-03-17 20:11 < Mark_Ryan> The359: the current throttle allows about 1 in per second
2008-03-17 20:11 < ShakespeareFan00> ALLSTARECHO: Hey you are only suppoed to tell OTRS LEvel 4's that 'secret' :O
2008-03-17 20:11 < Crasy> So.
2008-03-17 20:11 < Gracenotes> Mark_Ryan: not quite. 1 in per 7 seconds
2008-03-17 20:11 < Crasy> From what I'm getting from this.
2008-03-17 20:11 < The359> I thought it sent people there because of the room limit, Mark_Ryan
2008-03-17 20:11 < Mark_Ryan> oh, that's right. lol
2008-03-17 20:11 < Crasy> It was the terrorists.
2008-03-17 20:11 < Crasy> Can I blame it on the terrorists?
2008-03-17 20:11 < pjoter> 1 what in where per 7
2008-03-17 20:11 < ALLSTARecho> Sorry, couldn't resist..
2008-03-17 20:11 < recourse> yes
2008-03-17 20:11 < ShakespeareFan00> Crasy: nah,
2008-03-17 20:11 < Crasy> It all makes sense now!
2008-03-17 20:11 < Crasy> ShakespeareFan00: You're one of them.
2008-03-17 20:11 < Pilotguy> Ops- If any of you have seen how many trolls I've kicked out of here, you'll see why we're not manipulating the join rate
2008-03-17 20:12 < ShakespeareFan00> More likley to be an accident
2008-03-17 20:12 < ShakespeareFan00> Crasy: I am not party to OTRS level 4
2008-03-17 20:12 < ShakespeareFan00> YET
2008-03-17 20:12 < Crasy> ShakespeareFan00: You're slow. I should frag you.
2008-03-17 20:12 < Mark_Ryan> OTRS level 4? sounds special. am I an OTRS level 4?
2008-03-17 20:12 < denelson83> Ah, the secure server is working
2008-03-17 20:12 < ShakespeareFan00> MarkRyan: Are you on OTRS and high up in the admin circles?
2008-03-17 20:12 * ALLSTARecho is in the Gay Cabal and that trumps OTRS of course.
2008-03-17 20:12 < ShakespeareFan00> ;)
2008-03-17 20:12 < TheLetterE> secure is working
2008-03-17 20:12 < TheLetterE> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page :)
2008-03-17 20:12 < Rinn> Orthogonal Trace Ranger Squad!
2008-03-17 20:13 < Mark_Ryan> ShakespeareFan00: no
2008-03-17 20:13 * Philippe|Wiki is both Gay Cabal AND OTRS. World domination, one step at a time.
2008-03-17 20:13 < Gracenotes> TheLetterE: please don't advertise, the secure server can't handle that kind of load.
2008-03-17 20:13 < ShakespeareFan00> ALLSTARECHO: Some of the Wikipedia OTRS are gay ;)
2008-03-17 20:13 < Mark_Ryan> well, I'm on OTRS. but I am mostly just the brunt of everyone's jokes
2008-03-17 20:13 < Crasy> Basically, all I'm saying is that a well placed grenade could solve all of this.
2008-03-17 20:13 < ALLSTARecho> ya
2008-03-17 20:13 < ShakespeareFan00> MarkRyan: How mcuh editing and how much have you donated to the Foundation ? :)
2008-03-17 20:13 < pjoter> lol
2008-03-17 20:13 < Crasy> Unless, it's those haxors.
2008-03-17 20:13 < TheLetterE> Gracenotes: /me cries.
2008-03-17 20:13 < Crasy> Haxor terrorists!
2008-03-17 20:13 < Crasy> Duh.
2008-03-17 20:13 < Jtkiefer> OTRS == [[Cronyism]]
2008-03-17 20:13 < Crasy> Let's threaten them with democracy.
2008-03-17 20:13 < Crasy> :D
2008-03-17 20:13 < ShakespeareFan00> MarkRyan; BTE OTRS is a play on OT (and is RobChurch's joke not mine ;) )
2008-03-17 20:14 < Pilotguy> OTRS is down too eh?
2008-03-17 20:14 < denelson83> OTRS is "sort" rearranged
2008-03-17 20:14 < reisio> TheLetterE++ :p
2008-03-17 20:14 < Kerotan> Its all the work of the gay cabal.
2008-03-17 20:14 < pjoter> whats OTRS anyway
2008-03-17 20:14 < gwern> Jtkiefer: your name is familiar to me. did you use to hang out here?
2008-03-17 20:14 < Pilotguy> Ah well I haven't been on there in a while
2008-03-17 20:14 < ShakespeareFan00> Keortan: Nah...
2008-03-17 20:14 < Philippe|Wiki> there is no gay cabal. it's only in your mind.... you are getting very sleepy... sleepy....
2008-03-17 20:14 < tepples> OTRS is online ticket response system
2008-03-17 20:14 < ShakespeareFan00> Seriously I think the fault is a switching one
2008-03-17 20:14 < Stormscape> omg
2008-03-17 20:14 < DeadEyeArrow> Hey guys
2008-03-17 20:14 < Stormscape> I managed to access wiki
2008-03-17 20:14 < Stormscape> via normal
2008-03-17 20:14 < tepples> it's how Commons handles proof of free licensing
2008-03-17 20:14 < DeadEyeArrow> same here
2008-03-17 20:15 < Stormscape> I can finally read about giant squid
2008-03-17 20:15 < ShakespeareFan00> teppples: You know some pwople accuse hi-levle admins of being cultish? ;)
2008-03-17 20:15 < oloughlin75> YEAH ITS UP!
2008-03-17 20:15 < digital_me> yeah normal is working for me now too
2008-03-17 20:15 < pjoter> ah ok thx tepples
2008-03-17 20:15 * Seddon69 has enjoyed the delights of wiki for the last 10 min :P
2008-03-17 20:15 < DeadEyeArrow> I can finally disambiguate that link!
2008-03-17 20:15 < Kerotan> Yeah its been like that for a while.
2008-03-17 20:15 < gwern> how do i shot wiki?
2008-03-17 20:15 < pjoter> sure it's up
2008-03-17 20:15 < Cielo> WIKIPEDIA WORKS AGAIN!!
2008-03-17 20:15 < Rinn> It's up? Take it down again.
2008-03-17 20:15 < Stormscape> IT'S ALIVVVVVVVVVVVE
2008-03-17 20:15 < Kerotan> Yeah.
2008-03-17 20:15 < RattleMan> It's uppppppppppppp
2008-03-17 20:15 < Kerotan> *sigh*
2008-03-17 20:15 < Cielo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
2008-03-17 20:15 < ShakespeareFan00> It will have issues for a while people
2008-03-17 20:15 < Philippe|Wiki> plz me can 2 have tha 'pedia back now yes?
2008-03-17 20:15 < habnabit> Wiktionary is down, though.
2008-03-17 20:15 < Jtkiefer> gwern, used to be an admin, ran for beaurucrat 5 times, then got caught doing any number of unethical things, left in disgrace and am in self imposed exile from editing 99% of wikipedia pages
2008-03-17 20:15 < habnabit> Oh, now that's back too.
2008-03-17 20:15 < Prentice> WP seems to be back up
2008-03-17 20:15 < Prentice> (at least for me)
2008-03-17 20:16 < pjoter> sure its up
2008-03-17 20:16 < pjoter> your lack of knowledge makes me sick
2008-03-17 20:16 < Prentice> then /topic needs to be updated
2008-03-17 20:16 < Rinn> Take it back down!
2008-03-17 20:16 < pjoter> ;)
2008-03-17 20:16 < Juliancolton> Nooooo!!!
2008-03-17 20:16 < gwern> Jtkiefer: ah. I was thinking admin actually from '04,'05. what brings you back? I remember quite a bit of wikidrama
2008-03-17 20:16 < pjoter> pew
2008-03-17 20:16 < TheLetterE> Gracenotes! :(
2008-03-17 20:16 < Juliancolton> Gosh, I was scared there for a second
2008-03-17 20:16 < Jtkiefer> gwern, wanted to read an article and wp was down so I figured I'd drop in
2008-03-17 20:17 < Jtkiefer> gwern, and drama is one way of putting it
2008-03-17 20:17 < Rinn> What'd you do, have sex with Jimbo?
2008-03-17 20:17 * Seddon69 watches has hundred leave now they have wiki
2008-03-17 20:17 < pjoter> in here?
2008-03-17 20:17 < gwern> Rinn: sockpuppets, iirc
2008-03-17 20:17 < gwern> but that may've been someone else...
2008-03-17 20:17 < Master_son> I can here the pins dropping again
2008-03-17 20:17 < nicktastic> Bye! :)
2008-03-17 20:17 < karlp15498654965> FUCKING ACE MY WIKIPEDIA IS BACK! THANKS GUYS!
2008-03-17 20:17 < ShakespeareFan00> Wiki is up for some
2008-03-17 20:17 < ShakespeareFan00> The channel will empty
2008-03-17 20:18 < pjoter> karlp15498654965: this is a family channel
2008-03-17 20:18 * Juliancolton quit
2008-03-17 20:18 < gwern> Jtkiefer: I had my fair share of drama, so I prefer to use that term to get some perspective
2008-03-17 20:18 < TheLetterE> ShakespeareFan00: then should go quiet until another problem happens :)
2008-03-17 20:18 < karlp15498654965> pjoter: ok
2008-03-17 20:18 < pjoter> lol
2008-03-17 20:18 < ShakespeareFan00> Nah, this channel is never quiet :)
2008-03-17 20:18 < bogdan2005> ShakespeareFan00: every other minute someone mentions that Jimbo had sex with that conservative!
2008-03-17 20:18 < ALLSTARecho> 24/7 at that
2008-03-17 20:19 < Kerotan> None the less, time for bed.
2008-03-17 20:19 < Rinn> It has a tendency to quiet down during the night hours when Mike_H isn't talking about Top Model or something.
2008-03-17 20:19 < Jtkiefer> Rinn, hmm, sockpuppet abuse, rfa tampering, fpc tampering, lying to Jimbo, lying to the community, abuse of power, seceretly forming a cabal which ended up turning against me and essentially speaking against me, and just overall upsetting the community
2008-03-17 20:19 < ShakespeareFan00> Anyone checking for vandals?
2008-03-17 20:19 < DBush> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strobe_light Isn't it funny how this article says Strobe lights can cause seizures, several paragraphs after the .GIF of a Strobe light, which on its own image information page says not to look at it if you're prone to seizures?
2008-03-17 20:19 < pjoter> what would mike gravel do?
2008-03-17 20:19 < reisio> scowl
2008-03-17 20:19 < denelson83> http://reddit.com/info/6cfx4/comments/
2008-03-17 20:19 < Jtkiefer> Rinn, I wish though (although I'm not gay) I could have had an article saying only good things about myself if I had
2008-03-17 20:20 < Jtkiefer> or if I had given him a large donation
2008-03-17 20:20 < gwern> http://speaklolspeak.com/page/Teh+story+of+teh+lolrus+who+haz+lost+his+Bukkit <-- this is a useul reference for bukkit jokes
2008-03-17 20:20 < tepples> the strobe light pic is probably too small to trigger seizures
2008-03-17 20:20 < gwern> Jtkiefer: you sound almost nostalgic!
2008-03-17 20:20 < Rinn> DBush: That reminds me of goatse.cx when it had "If you are under eighteen, don't look at this image!" under it.
2008-03-17 20:20 < ALLSTARecho> oh noz, i just looked at it and had a seee-zure
2008-03-17 20:20 < CoJaBo> lol
2008-03-17 20:20 < reisio> "I live in a giant bucket"
2008-03-17 20:21 < recourse> i live in an extended stay america right now because my boss won't let me move to dallas!
2008-03-17 20:21 < Jtkiefer> gwern, I am, I'm not proud of what I did but I was hugely dedicated back to WP in the day before I turned my back on it and it turned it's back on me, not sure in which order though
2008-03-17 20:21 < recourse> but they are paying so I'm cool with that
2008-03-17 20:21 < CoJaBo> Wikipedia went down and I thought my internet was out :/
2008-03-17 20:21 < Leslie_S> reisio you do? really?
2008-03-17 20:21 < Rabbitbunny> recourse: you don't want to move to dallas anyway
2008-03-17 20:21 < recourse> Rabbitbunny: I don't want to live in vegas anymore
2008-03-17 20:21 < reisio> Leslie_S: Bitter Films quote :)
2008-03-17 20:21 < Jtkiefer> anyway, see you all next time wikipedia goes down when I'm trying to find an article
2008-03-17 20:21 < gwern> Jtkiefer: heh. I've often wished I could just quit WP for a few years and come back and enjoy all the new articles and features
2008-03-17 20:22 < recourse> Rabbitbunny: besides the family moved there and I'd live to see em before I mve to sydney in 2 years
2008-03-17 20:22 < reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rejected
2008-03-17 20:22 < Rabbitbunny> recourse: have them come visit, dallas sucks.
2008-03-17 20:22 < recourse> you in dallas?
2008-03-17 20:22 < Rinn> I like staying distanced from everything.
2008-03-17 20:22 < Rabbitbunny> very very close.
2008-03-17 20:22 < tepples> gwern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikibreak
2008-03-17 20:22 < recourse> is grapevine a nice place to live?
2008-03-17 20:22 < gwern> man. there was a blast from the past
2008-03-17 20:22 < recourse> I was looking at renting an apt there
2008-03-17 20:23 < Rinn> Thinking nothing but maybe "Oh, I vandalized that article once" when someone talks about a huge edit war.
2008-03-17 20:23 < nihonjoe> Wow, it's been a while since I've been here.
2008-03-17 20:23 < Rabbitbunny> s/very very/very/
2008-03-17 20:23 < gwern> tepples: I know but I can't do it! my articles have no one else
2008-03-17 20:23 < recourse> Rabbitbunny: good place eh?
2008-03-17 20:24 < DeadEyeArrow> Well it was fun getting to know ya all
2008-03-17 20:24 < DeadEyeArrow> see ya on the wiki
2008-03-17 20:24 < Rabbitbunny> recourse: there's a site that shows you the location of strip clubs, nationwide. that would be a better indicator then my vague memory of some odd sounding name.
2008-03-17 20:25 < Juliancolton> DeadEyeArrow, good luck
2008-03-17 20:25 < TheLetterE> Farosdaughter: hey
2008-03-17 20:25 < recourse> Rabbitbunny: good looking out
2008-03-17 20:25 < Farosdaughter> heya TheLetterE :)
2008-03-17 20:25 < Almar> 7_8
2008-03-17 20:25 < pjoter> jiiiiiha
2008-03-17 20:25 < pjoter> "_
2008-03-17 20:26 * nihonjoe is sad because he can't remember his nickserv registered password...
2008-03-17 20:26 < gwern> nihonjoe: brute force it. if you're dumb enough to forget it, you were dumb enough to set a weak password :)
2008-03-17 20:27 < nihonjoe> Dumb has nothing to do with it. I just haven't used it for 15 months or more.
2008-03-17 20:27 < wimt> Or pop into #freenode and ask a staffer to reset the password if you set an email, or drop it for you to re-register otherwise :-)
2008-03-17 20:27 < nihonjoe> I've tried severasl already, but none of them work.
2008-03-17 20:27 < nihonjoe> That's a thought.
2008-03-17 20:28 < gwern> '"Pilot: May Have Shot Down Saint-Exupery" - Rippert says in the book that he is a fan of the author's works. "In our youth, at school, we had all read him. We loved his books," he said. "If I had known, I would not have opened fire. Not on him!" '
2008-03-17 20:28 < pjoter> how to brute force it again?
2008-03-17 20:29 < catzilla> jack the ripper
2008-03-17 20:29 < reisio> Ian Holm
2008-03-17 20:29 < pjoter> i won't though
2008-03-17 20:29 * pjoter coughs
2008-03-17 20:30 < eadthem> man i give up on vandlism reverting every time i try to do it someones alredy beet me there
2008-03-17 20:31 < CoJaBo> That happens to me alot...
2008-03-17 20:33 < ijustam> do you use a script?
2008-03-17 20:33 < ijustam> reverting by hand takes longer than using a script
2008-03-17 20:33 < eadthem> script?
2008-03-17 20:33 < ijustam> i use TW
2008-03-17 20:33 < ijustam> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TW
2008-03-17 20:33 < Capn_Refsmmat> there are scripts that revert automagically
2008-03-17 20:33 < CoJaBo> I use TW and popups, and still get beat sometimes
2008-03-17 20:33 < ijustam> yeah
2008-03-17 20:34 < Capn_Refsmmat> that's when I revert to being omniscient
2008-03-17 20:34 < Capn_Refsmmat> it's convenient at times
2008-03-17 20:35 < ijustam> blatant vandalism is usually bot covered... i usually look for articles that are +/- 200~ characters
2008-03-17 20:35 < VzjrZ> lol
2008-03-17 20:35 < ijustam> thats always relatively non-obvious vandalism
2008-03-17 20:36 < ijustam> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jester&curid=78135&diff=198991921&oldid=198869445
2008-03-17 20:36 < ijustam> like this one
2008-03-17 20:37 * nihonjoe is saved now!
2008-03-17 20:37 < nihonjoe> The IRC gods have smiled upon me.
2008-03-17 20:37 < nihonjoe> :-)
2008-03-17 20:37 < ijustam> :o
2008-03-17 20:37 < Capn_Refsmmat> eh?
2008-03-17 20:38 < eadthem> so what is the monobook.js
2008-03-17 20:38 < Fennec> hmm?
2008-03-17 20:38 < ijustam> it's basically, from my understanding, a set of instructions given to your browser per account
2008-03-17 20:39 < ijustam> so it's a per-user theme/java script setting
2008-03-17 20:39 < ijustam> monobook.js for the monobook theme, that is
2008-03-17 20:39 < ijustam> (does anyone _not_ use monobook?)
2008-03-17 20:39 < eadthem> so how do i know this command importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js'); wont kill my account lol
2008-03-17 20:40 < quanticle> eadthem: You don't.
2008-03-17 20:40 < quanticle> eadthem: How much do you trust the other party?
2008-03-17 20:40 < eadthem> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:TW
2008-03-17 20:41 < Fennec> well, how well can you read JavaScript, what's at that page, and what exactly do you think someone will do to change that page?
2008-03-17 20:41 < Monkt> sup niggas
2008-03-17 20:41 < eadthem> the page appers to be fine
2008-03-17 20:41 < eadthem> i checked the history
2008-03-17 20:41 < eadthem> but a tool install page shuld be a protected page patciuarly if installing it could damage your account
2008-03-17 20:41 * Pork58 is gargling santorum
2008-03-17 20:42 < pjoter> HEY WIKI IS DOWN!
2008-03-17 20:42 < eadthem> shut it
2008-03-17 20:42 < CoJaBo> I think anything ending in .js is protected automatically
2008-03-17 20:42 < Pork58> It is
2008-03-17 20:42 < eadthem> k
2008-03-17 20:42 < pjoter> just wanted to cheer the chan up a lil
2008-03-17 20:42 < pjoter> shut it yourself
2008-03-17 20:43 < eadthem> thanks
2008-03-17 20:43 < pjoter> it was funnier before remember?
2008-03-17 20:43 < Pork58> Only admins can edit protected .js
2008-03-17 20:46 < mib_51bd983g> I like potatoes
2008-03-17 20:46 < Pork> wow
2008-03-17 20:46 < Pork> nice
2008-03-17 20:46 < pjoter> i would like calamari right now
2008-03-17 20:46 < Pork> you like potatoes
2008-03-17 20:46 < Pork> so i herd sum things?
2008-03-17 20:46 < pjoter> with cheese
2008-03-17 20:47 < pjoter> think about it
2008-03-17 20:47 < Pataters> wut?
2008-03-17 20:47 < Pork> So i herd u liek mudkips?
2008-03-17 20:47 < Pataters> i <3 mudkips!
2008-03-17 20:47 < e1th0r> please dont talk about food...
2008-03-17 20:47 < e1th0r> :(
2008-03-17 20:47 < Pataters> Let's talk about food
2008-03-17 20:47 < pjoter> hell yea.. :-/
2008-03-17 20:47 < Pataters> I like eating fresh bagels
2008-03-17 20:48 < pjoter> i like beagles
2008-03-17 20:48 < Pork> and chocolate coming outta da butt
2008-03-17 20:48 < e1th0r> bahhh...
2008-03-17 20:48 < Pork> Have you tried poutine?
2008-03-17 20:48 < pjoter> hold on
2008-03-17 20:48 < Pork> It's so delicious!
2008-03-17 20:48 < Gumwad> Yep!
2008-03-17 20:48 < Pork> It's so delicious :D
2008-03-17 20:48 < pjoter> i would love to
2008-03-17 20:48 < Gumwad> I'm eating haggis :)
2008-03-17 20:48 < pjoter> looks great
2008-03-17 20:49 < Gumwad> pjoter, where do you live?
2008-03-17 20:49 < pjoter> germany
2008-03-17 20:49 < e1th0r> I am hungry but I do not want to cook
2008-03-17 20:49 < e1th0r> :(
2008-03-17 20:49 < pjoter> what will i need?
2008-03-17 20:49 < e1th0r> so, please, dont talk about food :(
2008-03-17 20:49 < Gumwad> pjoter, french fries
2008-03-17 20:49 < Gumwad> it's always important
2008-03-17 20:49 < pjoter> sure
2008-03-17 20:49 < Gumwad> fresh cheese curds
2008-03-17 20:49 < pjoter> plus meatballs?
2008-03-17 20:49 < Gumwad> the freshest, the better
2008-03-17 20:49 < pjoter> aah great
2008-03-17 20:49 < pjoter> i can't stand this
2008-03-17 20:49 < Gumwad> and brown gravy sauce
2008-03-17 20:49 < Fennec> e1th0r: mmm, foooood.
2008-03-17 20:50 < Fennec> cooking.
2008-03-17 20:50 < pjoter> lol haggis looks funny btw
2008-03-17 20:50 < pjoter> Gumwad: i will try it
2008-03-17 20:50 < Gumwad> there's a restaurant that offers poutine with bacon
2008-03-17 20:50 < pjoter> aaah
2008-03-17 20:50 < Gumwad> its other name is heart attack on a plate
2008-03-17 20:50 * pjoter drools
2008-03-17 20:50 < gwern> I have formed a new life resolution. Never mess with a male gymnast or balletist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqxSaW05p4
2008-03-17 20:50 < Gumwad> let me get a pic
2008-03-17 20:51 < Gumwad> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stutefish/381541341/sizes/l/
2008-03-17 20:51 < Gumwad> that's a true one
2008-03-17 20:51 < e1th0r> what is poutine?
2008-03-17 20:51 < Gumwad> a true poutine has homemade french fries
2008-03-17 20:51 < pjoter> lol thomas gottschalk tought you?
2008-03-17 20:51 < Gumwad> e1th0r [[poutine]]
2008-03-17 20:51 < pjoter> oh i had no homemade ones a long time ago
2008-03-17 20:52 < pjoter> great idea!
2008-03-17 20:52 < Gumwad> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/OriginalPoutineLaBanquise.jpg
2008-03-17 20:53 < pjoter> hey Gumwad this really seems to be a great idea to me
2008-03-17 20:53 < pjoter> i will definitely try this
2008-03-17 20:53 < e1th0r> hmmm... i remember like poutine in amsterdam.
2008-03-17 20:53 < pjoter> what is the sauce made off?
2008-03-17 20:53 < pjoter> of
2008-03-17 20:53 < Gumwad> usually, beef gravy sauce
2008-03-17 20:53 < Gumwad> or brown sauce
2008-03-17 20:53 < pjoter> ok not bad
2008-03-17 20:53 < Gumwad> I know a place that serves it with fine herbs in the sauce
2008-03-17 20:54 < Gumwad> if you want a higer class poutine
2008-03-17 20:54 < Gumwad> there's another place that offers it with truffle slices and foie gras slices
2008-03-17 20:54 * e1th0r writing....
2008-03-17 20:54 < pjoter> i could really imagine fried plaice to this
2008-03-17 20:54 < Gumwad> pjoter, some foods are unique to Montreal
2008-03-17 20:54 < Gumwad> and some concepts too
2008-03-17 20:54 < Gumwad> like
2008-03-17 20:55 < Gumwad> 10$ gets you a lap dance
2008-03-17 20:55 < pjoter> lol
2008-03-17 20:55 < Gumwad> or
2008-03-17 20:55 < Gumwad> montreal style bagels
2008-03-17 20:56 < Gumwad> or smoked meat from schwartz's
2008-03-17 20:56 < pjoter> hey that's our invention
2008-03-17 20:57 < pjoter> smoked meat from schwarzwald
2008-03-17 20:57 < pjoter> from black forrest
2008-03-17 20:57 < pjoter> but i feel honored
2008-03-17 20:58 < Gumwad> But try eating steak at Moishe's
2008-03-17 20:58 < e1th0r> pjoter, what is your most tipical food?
2008-03-17 20:58 < pjoter> hey i will search the house for food now - i will try this poutine definitely once
2008-03-17 20:58 < pjoter> mh lets see
2008-03-17 20:58 < pjoter> i personally prefer g'schmelzte maultaschen once a week
2008-03-17 20:58 < pjoter> hold on
2008-03-17 20:59 < pjoter> http://data2.blog.de/media/873/625873_050494885a_o.jpeg like this and forget the herbs
2008-03-17 20:59 < Gumwad> yum
2008-03-17 20:59 < pjoter> plus imagine fried eggs between
2008-03-17 21:00 < e1th0r> let me see...
2008-03-17 21:00 < Gumwad> Today, i ate capello di angeli with fresh herbs and a dab of olive oil and loads of garlic
2008-03-17 21:00 < Gumwad> :0
2008-03-17 21:00 < pjoter> also like this http://data1.blog.de/media/537/392537_4142a6cf69_l.jpeg
2008-03-17 21:00 < pjoter> and very traditionally http://www.bavariangrill.com/images/newsletters/maultaschen.jpg
2008-03-17 21:00 < Gumwad> yum
2008-03-17 21:00 < pjoter> hehe great
2008-03-17 21:00 < pjoter> damn i'm getting hungry!
2008-03-17 21:00 < pjoter> hey great idea!
2008-03-17 21:01 < e1th0r> this a tipical food for my country..
2008-03-17 21:01 < e1th0r> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pabellón_criollo
2008-03-17 21:01 < pjoter> sometimes i just boil some spaghetti and olive oil and garlic and some permiggiano wil do the rest
2008-03-17 21:01 < pjoter> plus nutmeg a little
2008-03-17 21:01 < Gumwad> in the morning, i usually eat a couple of english muffins with eggs or a splash of jam or cream cheese
2008-03-17 21:01 < Gumwad> pjoter, you can get high on nutmeg
2008-03-17 21:02 < pjoter> i do
2008-03-17 21:02 < pjoter> ^^
2008-03-17 21:02 < Gumwad> okay
2008-03-17 21:02 < Gumwad> i'm out
2008-03-17 21:02 < Gumwad> toodles
2008-03-17 21:02 < Gumwad> <3
2008-03-17 21:02 < pjoter> yum e1th0r
2008-03-17 21:02 < cremepuff222> Bye.
2008-03-17 21:02 < pjoter> seems like fried plaice to me
2008-03-17 21:02 < pjoter> k bye
2008-03-17 21:02 < pjoter> good hunger
2008-03-17 21:03 < Hello32020> lol NYDailyNews: NY Gov. Patterson confesses to affair http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/03/17/2008-03-17_gov_paterson_admits_to_sex_with_other_wo.html
2008-03-17 21:03 < Casull> Snap, did the server down kill ClueBot?
2008-03-17 21:04 < Hello32020> yeah what caused that wikipedia server crash...?
2008-03-17 21:05 < Fennec> YOU did
2008-03-17 21:05 < quanticle> Wait, what happened? Server crash?
2008-03-17 21:05 < e1th0r> the server for wikpedia's pentabarf si down?
2008-03-17 21:05 < e1th0r> s/si/is
2008-03-17 21:05 < MrZ-man> looks like it was a backbone routing problem
2008-03-17 21:08 < MrZ-man> and an issue with the main load balancer
2008-03-17 21:08 < CoJaBo> There still seems to be database lag...
2008-03-17 21:08 < MrZ-man> really? the serves had a nice ling rest while no one could connect
2008-03-17 21:09 < MrZ-man> *servers / long
2008-03-17 21:09 < SS_Lazio> you all are wikipedia addicted
2008-03-17 21:09 < Fennec> not so
2008-03-17 21:09 < Cyrius> now they have to catch up from people sending everything at once
2008-03-17 21:09 < CoJaBo> lol
2008-03-17 21:09 < Fennec> SS_Lazio: why, check my edit history. I is lazy at Wikipedia of late.
2008-03-17 21:09 < Cyrius> not kidding
2008-03-17 21:09 < Fennec> doing Real Work <tm> and practicing harp
2008-03-17 21:10 < Fennec> ./~
2008-03-17 21:10 < SS_Lazio> very well me too
2008-03-17 21:10 < SS_Lazio> it's very boring after a whie
2008-03-17 21:10 < SS_Lazio> fennec your last edit is 16 feb
2008-03-17 21:11 < Fennec> sounds about right
2008-03-17 21:11 * Cyrius has been wikilazy for like a year
2008-03-17 21:14 < Capn_Refsmmat> that's terrible
2008-03-17 21:14 < Hello32020> eh I wouldn't say I'm addicted I usually go editing for a few months then take a break for a while (edit a little) and start again later
2008-03-17 21:15 < Capn_Refsmmat> I just fix comma problems occasionally
2008-03-17 21:16 < Capn_Refsmmat> and that's it
2008-03-17 21:16 < Cyrius> I just read "Mediation Cabal" on a mailing list
2008-03-17 21:16 < Cyrius> as "Meditation Cabal"
2008-03-17 21:16 < Cyrius> and thought it was a great idea.
2008-03-17 21:17 < Cyrius> we need some more serenity around here
2008-03-17 21:17 < CoJaBo> I mostly just revert spam and vandals..
2008-03-17 21:17 < SS_Lazio> sounds like fun
2008-03-17 21:17 < SS_Lazio> lol
2008-03-17 21:17 < SS_Lazio> you get very easy annoyed on wiki
2008-03-17 21:18 < SS_Lazio> that's what I hate
2008-03-17 21:18 < Casull> Hmmm this CoJaBo looks familiar...
2008-03-17 21:18 < CoJaBo> ?
2008-03-17 21:18 < Casull> Where have I seen him before a few minutes ago?
2008-03-17 21:18 < Casull> I KNOW I SAW YOU DO SOMETHING POSITIVE TO WIKI A FEW MINUTES AGO
2008-03-17 21:18 < CoJaBo> lol
2008-03-17 21:18 < Hello32020> why was there no wikipedia signpost today
2008-03-17 21:19 < Capn_Refsmmat> the editors are all drunk celebrating St. Patrick's day
2008-03-17 21:19 < Cyrius> to irritate you
2008-03-17 21:19 < Hello32020> :(
2008-03-17 21:20 < quanticle> Casull: Are you, by any chance, affiliated with NotACow?
2008-03-17 21:20 < Casull> quanticle: Who?
2008-03-17 21:20 < Cyrius> hah
2008-03-17 21:20 < Cyrius> '"How much faith do you have in Wikipedia articles?"
2008-03-17 21:20 < Cyrius> Best answer so far: "None. As far as I know, Wikipedia is not a religious organization."'
2008-03-17 21:20 < JohnReaves> I can't imagine her referring to WP as "wiki"
2008-03-17 21:22 < Ceiling_Cat> tonight's interview with Sue went well
2008-03-17 21:22 < Cyrius> interview?
2008-03-17 21:23 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Who?
2008-03-17 21:23 < The359> Tonight?
2008-03-17 21:23 < JohnReaves> with?
2008-03-17 21:23 < Cyrius> I think that's all the mileage we're going to get out of that one
2008-03-17 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> Not thw Wikipedia Weekly
2008-03-17 21:24 < gwern> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136150 <-- what an age we live in, 5.36USD per gig
2008-03-17 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> tonight we record episode 3 - 2/3s of which was an interview with Sue Gardner
2008-03-17 21:24 < Ceiling_Cat> wmf executive director
2008-03-17 21:24 < Cyrius> she's legally in charge
2008-03-17 21:24 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: did you ask whether she had an affair with jimbo?
2008-03-17 21:25 < Ceiling_Cat> yes
2008-03-17 21:25 < gwern> what'd she say? denial, obviously
2008-03-17 21:25 < Ceiling_Cat> She said there is absolutely no truth to that story
2008-03-17 21:25 < Ceiling_Cat> also, FWIW, I've heard on the grapevine that danny said it's false too
2008-03-17 21:25 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Danny?
2008-03-17 21:25 < gwern> interesting. so who was valleywag getting it from?
2008-03-17 21:26 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle - Danny Wool
2008-03-17 21:26 < gwern> (although I suppose danny wouldn't be in a position to know, having left before gardner)
2008-03-17 21:27 * quanticle looks up the ValleyWag article
2008-03-17 21:27 < quanticle> Ah. I see what you're talking about now.
2008-03-17 21:27 < quanticle> To be fair, the column is called "RumorMonger"
2008-03-17 21:28 < quanticle> It shouldn't be taken as anything more than gossip.
2008-03-17 21:28 < e1th0r> I purchased one of 1 Tb recently
2008-03-17 21:28 < e1th0r> one HD of course
2008-03-17 21:29 < quanticle> In fact, pretty much everything in ValleyWag should be taken as gossip.
2008-03-17 21:29 < quanticle> That magazine is like a tabloid for nerds...
2008-03-17 21:29 < ijustam> why is in the chinese wikipedia zh and not cn?
2008-03-17 21:30 < quanticle> e1th0r: I was advised not to buy any of the current 1TB drives by a friend who works @ Seagate. He says that the 1.5TB drives will be out soon, and then the 1TB drives will take a price drop.
2008-03-17 21:30 < e1th0r> quanticle, :(
2008-03-17 21:30 < e1th0r> quanticle, i purchased the last week in Rome.
2008-03-17 21:31 < e1th0r> almost... 250 US
2008-03-17 21:31 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NotTheWikipediaWeekly
2008-03-17 21:31 < e1th0r> external, of course.
2008-03-17 21:31 < quanticle> >.<
2008-03-17 21:32 < quanticle> e1th0r: I've always found that its more economical to buy an internal drive and an external enclosure/adapter than a proper external drive.
2008-03-17 21:33 < e1th0r> maybee.. for example, is more cheaper purchased a laptop hard disk and external box than a mini hard disk.
2008-03-17 21:34 < Ceiling_Cat> http://xkcd.com/387/
2008-03-17 21:34 < Ceiling_Cat> the alt-text there is hilarious
2008-03-17 21:34 < Ceiling_Cat> as is the comic itself
2008-03-17 21:34 < OverlordQ> rofl
2008-03-17 21:35 < Cyrius> ijustam: ISO language code
2008-03-17 21:35 < ijustam> Cyrius: ah
2008-03-17 21:35 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: The alt-text is actually *more* hilarious than the comic...
2008-03-17 21:37 < Ceiling_Cat> let me re-ask something I asked in here yesterday
2008-03-17 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> is there an automated proxy checker?
2008-03-17 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> that is to say, I have an IP and I want to know if it's a proxy
2008-03-17 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> that IP may or may not still be active
2008-03-17 21:38 < Fennec> there are some and they're not perfect.
2008-03-17 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> links?
2008-03-17 21:39 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: That's difficult to check, given that a proxy merely forwards HTTP (or whatever other protocol). It looks like any other client from the outside.
2008-03-17 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle - it has to have an open port somewhere
2008-03-17 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> (I'm talking about open proxies)
2008-03-17 21:40 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Ah. For those you can get lists...
2008-03-17 21:40 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Also, the prescense of open ports doesn't mean the box is a proxy.
2008-03-17 21:41 < Ceiling_Cat> true enough
2008-03-17 21:41 < quanticle> I'd suggest using a reputable list of open proxies.
2008-03-17 21:43 < Ceiling_Cat> such as?
2008-03-17 21:43 < Hello32020> Question: Are legally uploaded YouTube videos allowed to be used as sources in articles (that portray an even; aka a primary source). I didn't add it its in an existing article.
2008-03-17 21:43 < Hello32020> *event
2008-03-17 21:43 < Leslie_S> NO
2008-03-17 21:43 < Fennec> what, is it that one of Tom Cruise? >.>
2008-03-17 21:43 < Ceiling_Cat> uh, hrm
2008-03-17 21:44 < Ceiling_Cat> what event?
2008-03-17 21:45 < DBush> Was the video taken without consent? Did the video state facts without citation? Will the subject sue Wikipedia for exploitation?
2008-03-17 21:45 * Fennec imagines "theoretically it could be a good idea sometimes"
2008-03-17 21:46 < DBush> If it's a plausible scenario you can conceive, it'd be better to be cautious, I do believe
2008-03-17 21:46 < quanticle> DBush: I'd imagine that, if the video is documentation of an event, i.e. the video shows something happening, it'd be ok.