freenode #wikipedia

2008-03-17 19:25 < SS_Lazio> let's enjoy
2008-03-17 19:25 < Kingturtle> is anyone here in the admin irc? can i get an invite?
2008-03-17 19:25 < Ceiling_Cat> dammit, I keep habitually clicking my watchlist shortcut
2008-03-17 19:25 < pjoter> i'm opening the window right now
2008-03-17 19:25 < JohnReaves> Kingturtle:Sure, hold on
2008-03-17 19:25 < pjoter> it's winter i guess
2008-03-17 19:25 < Ceiling_Cat> it's back
2008-03-17 19:25 < pjoter> ah ok
2008-03-17 19:26 < pjoter> cya guys
2008-03-17 19:26 < Hurricanehink> Yay
2008-03-17 19:26 < Kingturtle> thar she blows
2008-03-17 19:26 < PB54> is wikipedia down for anyone else?
2008-03-17 19:26 < Mole2> Oh, Wikipedia in other languages works fine. Ehm, perhaps I should edit a little in my mother tongue? :)
2008-03-17 19:26 < Fennec> hmm.
2008-03-17 19:26 < Fennec> Wikipedia is bouncing?
2008-03-17 19:26 < Fennec> ick.
2008-03-17 19:26 < KTC> "Unable to connect"
2008-03-17 19:26 < Mole2> PB54: Yes, enwp is down.
2008-03-17 19:26 < PB54> :S
2008-03-17 19:26 < NotACow> no it's not
2008-03-17 19:26 < NotACow> you're down
2008-03-17 19:26 < NotACow> wikipedia is never down
2008-03-17 19:26 < NotACow> wikipedia is life
2008-03-17 19:26 < cimon> Kingturtle, you have your wish
2008-03-17 19:27 < Demi> actually we should be all pissy about people asking for the status of the en wikipedia
2008-03-17 19:27 < pjoter> hey its still down
2008-03-17 19:27 < Fennec> zomgdown
2008-03-17 19:27 < SS_Lazio> the en wikipedia should stay down
2008-03-17 19:27 < Mole2> Demi: Why should we be pissy about it?
2008-03-17 19:27 < SS_Lazio> too much headache
2008-03-17 19:27 < ShakespeareFan00> Minor issue , routing issue it will resolve shortly
2008-03-17 19:27 < Demi> "wikipedia is down?" "i don't think so, which one?" "the main one?" "*scoff*, you mean en? we don't deal with *language-specific shit* in here"
2008-03-17 19:27 < Fennec> haha.
2008-03-17 19:27 < cimon> Kingturtle, -ChanServ/#wikipedia-en-admins- bastique!n=cbass@wikimedia/Bastique ACCESS [#wikipedia-en-admins] ADD Kingturtle 8
2008-03-17 19:27 < pjoter> hey the real wiki is down
2008-03-17 19:28 < pjoter> he was right
2008-03-17 19:28 < SS_Lazio> the false one is up?
2008-03-17 19:28 < Mole2> Demi: Ah, yeah. But then you should really rename this channel to #meta and redirect this channel there. (Yes, IRC has redirects!!!) ;)
2008-03-17 19:28 < pjoter> j/k
2008-03-17 19:28 < pjoter> darn it what now
2008-03-17 19:28 < ShakespeareFan00> blank paging here
2008-03-17 19:29 < pjoter> lets cumulate our cache contents
2008-03-17 19:29 < Demi> quick, someone put up the pages with all the fake information!
2008-03-17 19:29 < pjoter> yeaa
2008-03-17 19:29 < ShakespeareFan00> Demi: Where's the "Please Standby" Slide?
2008-03-17 19:29 < DeadEyeArrow> Yo, IRC folks
2008-03-17 19:29 < pjoter> down down down
2008-03-17 19:29 < Gracenotes> hello
2008-03-17 19:30 < ShakespeareFan00> Gracenotes: enwiki is blank for me
2008-03-17 19:30 < ShakespeareFan00> Seems theres a routing issue
2008-03-17 19:30 < Gracenotes> it doesn't want to serve you anything :)
2008-03-17 19:30 < pjoter> you're full
2008-03-17 19:30 < Juliancolton> Gosh, the IPs are getting more powerful by the minute :(
2008-03-17 19:30 < Demi> we need some hold music
2008-03-17 19:31 < Demi> to play over one of those cartoon pictures of "Oops! Technical Difficulties!"
2008-03-17 19:31 < DeadEyeArrow> Was working just long enough for me to upload an image
2008-03-17 19:31 < pjoter> you did WHAT?
2008-03-17 19:31 < ShakespeareFan00> Demi: UK Style was to have some awful library track
2008-03-17 19:31 < ShakespeareFan00> I assume someone's talking to brion?
2008-03-17 19:31 < DeadEyeArrow> all the wiki sites were down, but they went up just long enough for me to upload something
2008-03-17 19:31 < Scott5114> cimon: could you add me to #wikipedia-en-admins too? I just passed RFA on Friday
2008-03-17 19:32 * pjoter gasps
2008-03-17 19:32 < pjoter> he broke it!!
2008-03-17 19:32 < DeadEyeArrow> But it's just a picture of a caterpillar
2008-03-17 19:32 < pjoter> there we go!
2008-03-17 19:32 < Scott5114> THE CATERPILLAR THAT DESTROYED WIKIMEDIA, you mean.
2008-03-17 19:32 < DeadEyeArrow> No, he's a nice caterpillar
2008-03-17 19:32 < DeadEyeArrow> he told me so
2008-03-17 19:33 < cimon> Scott5114, I don't have ops, I just passed the request on. I can do that for you. it might be slower for you, since they probably don't know you personally, so will have to check the relevant pages...
2008-03-17 19:33 < andares> Hrm.
2008-03-17 19:33 < andares> Down for me.
2008-03-17 19:33 < Scott5114> cimon: Ok, that works
2008-03-17 19:33 < Seddon69> its slowly coming back
2008-03-17 19:33 < andares> Ah.
2008-03-17 19:33 < andares> Noes. What am I going to do. :(
2008-03-17 19:33 < Seddon69> i got half a page
2008-03-17 19:33 < pjoter> lets cumulate what we got now
2008-03-17 19:33 < Kerotan> Same seddon
2008-03-17 19:33 < pjoter> i got some css
2008-03-17 19:33 < KTC> Seddon69, that's half a page more than me :p
2008-03-17 19:34 < Kerotan> i got half the main page
2008-03-17 19:34 < Seddon69> wooooo i control half a page on wiki, I am GOD :p
2008-03-17 19:34 * Juliancolton sees Seddon's page as half-empty
2008-03-17 19:34 < Seddon69> nm spoke too soon :P
2008-03-17 19:34 < KTC> i've got the background :D
2008-03-17 19:34 < Seddon69> ita gone
2008-03-17 19:34 < Kerotan> lol
2008-03-17 19:34 < Kerotan> I have half a page
2008-03-17 19:34 < Juliancolton> Rather than half-full
2008-03-17 19:34 < Kerotan> Ergo I am god.
2008-03-17 19:34 < Juliancolton> It's still down in NY
2008-03-17 19:34 < pjoter> i got css plus an "C"
2008-03-17 19:34 < andares> Down in GA.
2008-03-17 19:35 < Demi> andares - the devil?
2008-03-17 19:35 < Juliancolton> Good article, or Georgia?
2008-03-17 19:35 < Seddon69> seeing something as half full is prima facie evidence of an inferiority complex :P
2008-03-17 19:35 < ShakespeareFan00> Suggest you wait until tommorow people
2008-03-17 19:35 < NotACow> DATG
2008-03-17 19:35 < pjoter> down in new orleans
2008-03-17 19:35 < andares> Hehe.
2008-03-17 19:35 < andares> Georgia.
2008-03-17 19:35 < Kerotan> here comes the flood of people into #wikipedia
2008-03-17 19:35 < andares> Demi, fun song, isn't it.
2008-03-17 19:35 < Kerotan> wimt> There's very high latency and packet loss to all Florida servers. Which basically means nothing loads properly at all.
2008-03-17 19:35 < cimon> Scott5114, try it now...
2008-03-17 19:35 * Seddon69 provides background music
2008-03-17 19:36 < pjoter> jiiha
2008-03-17 19:36 < Andries> Hi
2008-03-17 19:36 < pjoter> some other languages seem to lack css only
2008-03-17 19:36 < Gracenotes> Kerotan: only problem is, now no one can look up latency if they don't know what it is :)
2008-03-17 19:36 < ShakespeareFan00> I am getting signal but very slow
2008-03-17 19:36 < Juliancolton> Seddon: Turn down the music, too loud! :P
2008-03-17 19:36 < Demi> i was disappointed by the latest torchwood
2008-03-17 19:36 < Scott5114> cimon: thank you
2008-03-17 19:37 < pjoter> hey i got some pics
2008-03-17 19:37 < pjoter> not bad
2008-03-17 19:37 < Stormscape> I want to read about giant squids =()
2008-03-17 19:37 < Juliancolton> Now here's your problem http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2004286879_btwikipedia17.html
2008-03-17 19:37 < KTC> well, i got the main page without any of the side or top bars, which could be consider a good thing :D
2008-03-17 19:37 < Juliancolton> Too much stress on the Wikipedia browsers
2008-03-17 19:37 < pjoter> yea what were you all up to
2008-03-17 19:38 < SS_Lazio> where are the wiki servers located?
2008-03-17 19:38 < SS_Lazio> cali?
2008-03-17 19:38 < DeadEyeArrow> fl
2008-03-17 19:38 < ShakespeareFan00> Florida
2008-03-17 19:38 < SS_Lazio> a sry
2008-03-17 19:38 < ShakespeareFan00> Seems theres a routing issue
2008-03-17 19:38 < ShakespeareFan00> Don't overload the tubes people ;)
2008-03-17 19:38 < zoke> what happened ?
2008-03-17 19:38 < ShakespeareFan00> "Wikipedia is experiencing technical difficulties..."
2008-03-17 19:39 < Gracenotes> SS_Lazio: several of them
2008-03-17 19:39 < Kerotan> Now we see a strain on freenode's servers as the world and his wife join #wikipedia
2008-03-17 19:39 < Gracenotes> oh hi, ChanServ
2008-03-17 19:39 < mike8901> ETA?
2008-03-17 19:39 < ShakespeareFan00> Is this related to Storm>
2008-03-17 19:39 < Gracenotes> SS_Lazio: for example, some in Amsterdam failed earlier today
2008-03-17 19:39 < ShakespeareFan00> ?
2008-03-17 19:39 < Tony_Sidaway> Oh has the webby thingie gone funny again?
2008-03-17 19:39 < ShakespeareFan00> Hi Tony
2008-03-17 19:39 < mike8901> "high packet loss"... that's vague....
2008-03-17 19:39 < ShakespeareFan00> Wikipedia is having issues
2008-03-17 19:39 < eadthem> anyone else just have wikiversty and wikipedia drop off the net
2008-03-17 19:40 < eadthem> guess thats a yes
2008-03-17 19:40 < Stormscape> TUBES OVERLOADED KTHX
2008-03-17 19:40 < ShakespeareFan00> Apparently there's a network routing issue
2008-03-17 19:40 < Mark_Ryan> mike8901: it means "it's broken and we don't know why"
2008-03-17 19:40 < tepples> does this happen often?
2008-03-17 19:40 < Seddon69> if only you could CTL+ALT+DEL the net
2008-03-17 19:40 < pjoter> is this an attack against free knowledge?
2008-03-17 19:40 < ShakespeareFan00> Has anyone been able to get other sites in Florida?
2008-03-17 19:40 < DGMurdockIII> is wikipedia down?
2008-03-17 19:40 < ShakespeareFan00> pjoter: It likley a network issues
2008-03-17 19:40 < Demi> tepples - not really; it used to happen much more frequently
2008-03-17 19:40 < Gracenotes> mike8901: it's somewhat diagnostic. we don't know *exactly* what the problem is
2008-03-17 19:40 < Mark_Ryan> if you visit http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/ you'll see some pretty graphs
2008-03-17 19:40 < ShakespeareFan00> DGMurdockIII- "Wikipedia is experiencing technical difficulties'
2008-03-17 19:40 < mike8901> Gracenotes: Got techs in the datacenter working on it?
2008-03-17 19:40 < pjoter> interesting
2008-03-17 19:41 < DGMurdockIII> ok kool
2008-03-17 19:41 < Mark_Ryan> you know, these days it seems that Wikipedia actually has less downtimes and technical problems than other big sites like YouTube, MySpace etc.
2008-03-17 19:41 < Stormscape> Internet Gremlins
2008-03-17 19:41 < pjoter> one TB grid mem??
2008-03-17 19:41 < DGMurdockIII> is there a graphic for the wikipedia page\
2008-03-17 19:41 < pjoter> from terra
2008-03-17 19:41 < ShakespeareFan00> Stormscape: Anon gremlins?
2008-03-17 19:41 < Gracenotes> mike8901: well, people discussing it in #wikimedia-tech. quote, "it's an external problem"
2008-03-17 19:41 < Master_son> we just think theres more cause were on it all the time
2008-03-17 19:42 < Mark_Ryan> DGMurdockIII, can you be a bit more specific?
2008-03-17 19:42 < ShakespeareFan00> Gracenotes: Great - the data center can talk , but Wiki can't
2008-03-17 19:42 < DGMurdockIII> like http://ganglia.wikimedia.org/
2008-03-17 19:42 < pjoter> are all language versions hosted in fl ?
2008-03-17 19:42 < Mark_Ryan> there's another page of graphs and indicators of server status like that, DGMurdockIII, but I'd have to go on Wikipedia to find it :)
2008-03-17 19:42 < Mark_Ryan> pjoter: no
2008-03-17 19:42 < pjoter> where else, all around the globe?
2008-03-17 19:42 < Mark_Ryan> I don't think so, anyway
2008-03-17 19:43 < Mark_Ryan> i think a few are located in europe
2008-03-17 19:43 < wimt> All the databases are in Florida I think
2008-03-17 19:43 < DGMurdockIII> so u cant get to it
2008-03-17 19:43 < wimt> Europe only has squids
2008-03-17 19:43 < Mark_Ryan> ah, right
2008-03-17 19:43 < pjoter> i got some contents in german but no css
2008-03-17 19:43 < mike8901> This economy is really scary....
2008-03-17 19:43 < simtower> i thought maybe a country got nuked or something
2008-03-17 19:43 < Tony_Sidaway> Europe is a nest of calamari at the moment
2008-03-17 19:43 < Stormscape> Tony_Sidaway: LOL
2008-03-17 19:43 < pjoter> mmh calamari
2008-03-17 19:44 < tepples> we <3 katamari
2008-03-17 19:44 < kalila_> something wrong with wikimedia servers?
2008-03-17 19:44 < DeadEyeArrow> If anyone knew specifically where in Florida they where I could go over there and give them a good kick
2008-03-17 19:44 < ShakespeareFan00> Not exactly
2008-03-17 19:44 < Mole2> As far as I know the Squid cache servers are located in several data centers around the globe. But the core database servers and render servers etc are in Florida or so. (But don't quote me on this.)
2008-03-17 19:44 < ShakespeareFan00> How much of Florida is down?
2008-03-17 19:44 < Stormscape> http://www.qdb.us/149784
2008-03-17 19:44 < pjoter> dead go for it!
2008-03-17 19:44 < Mole2> pjoter!!!!!
2008-03-17 19:45 < Mark_Ryan> the mailing lists are still up
2008-03-17 19:45 < pjoter> nice
2008-03-17 19:45 < Kerotan> Its all a scam to get you to donate more money by our robot overlords.
2008-03-17 19:45 < DGMurdockIII> DOS attack
2008-03-17 19:45 < Mark_Ryan> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
2008-03-17 19:45 < ShakespeareFan00> DOS Attack?
2008-03-17 19:45 < Mark_Ryan> go and subscribe to WikiEN-l!
2008-03-17 19:45 < NotASpy> Mark_Ryan: any port in a storm, eh. ;-0
2008-03-17 19:45 < Mole2> pjoter: I think you will love the name of my web site: www.pjort.com :))
2008-03-17 19:45 < RattleMan> DGMurdockIII - Confirmed?
2008-03-17 19:45 < ShakespeareFan00> What evidence for that
2008-03-17 19:45 < ShakespeareFan00> ?
2008-03-17 19:45 < DGMurdockIII> i dont now it a ges
2008-03-17 19:45 < cimon> Okay, I am going back to bed. No need to beep my nick when wikipedia comes back up though...
2008-03-17 19:45 < pjoter> Mole2: ^^ nice!!
2008-03-17 19:45 < Mole2> pjoter: Yeah. :)
2008-03-17 19:45 < Kingturtle> bye cimon
2008-03-17 19:45 < Mark_Ryan> DGMurdockIII, a DOS attack would just see a slight slowdown of the site, not a sudden switch-off
2008-03-17 19:46 < ShakespeareFan00> This looks like a routing switch or cable breach
2008-03-17 19:46 * Peacepath wonders why someone would bother to DOS wikipedia
2008-03-17 19:46 * Peacepath DOS's all the porn sites and sees what the DOS attackers does
2008-03-17 19:46 < DGMurdockIII> in the usa today there was a story abot botnets
2008-03-17 19:46 < Kerotan> because were all communists.
2008-03-17 19:46 < DGMurdockIII> today
2008-03-17 19:46 * ShakespeareFan00 can think of several reasons
2008-03-17 19:46 < ShakespeareFan00> At least 3 related to recent FA's
2008-03-17 19:46 < pjoter> today?
2008-03-17 19:46 < tepples> eBay is already DOS'd because it runs NT
2008-03-17 19:46 < pjoter> interesting....
2008-03-17 19:47 < ShakespeareFan00> tepples: Ebay is down?
2008-03-17 19:47 < pjoter> WUAT!?
2008-03-17 19:47 < eadthem> its not a DDOS if it was DDOS ping wouldnt get thrue or wouldent get thrue with 100% sugsess rate
2008-03-17 19:47 < tepples> no, not denial of service, disk operating syste
2008-03-17 19:47 < DeadEyeArrow> Ehh, got half the japanese wikiquote
2008-03-17 19:47 < pjoter> hey we had that with google a week ago!! no kidding
2008-03-17 19:47 < ShakespeareFan00> eadthem: You can ping the servers?
2008-03-17 19:47 < eadthem> yes
2008-03-17 19:47 < pjoter> there's something very very strange goin on here....
2008-03-17 19:47 < pjoter> o .o
2008-03-17 19:47 < pjoter> o. o
2008-03-17 19:47 < tepples> pinging en.wikipedia.org from comcast: request timed out * 4
2008-03-17 19:47 < ShakespeareFan00> pjoter: Yeah
2008-03-17 19:48 < ShakespeareFan00> Comcast
2008-03-17 19:48 < RattleMan> Command Prompt -> "ping en.wikipedia.org"
2008-03-17 19:48 < ShakespeareFan00> Hmmm
2008-03-17 19:48 < RattleMan> http://^
2008-03-17 19:48 < ShakespeareFan00> Why does that sound familar
2008-03-17 19:48 < ShakespeareFan00> ?
2008-03-17 19:48 < eadthem> Pinging rr.pmtpa.wikimedia.org [208.80.152.2] with 32 bytes of data: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
2008-03-17 19:48 < Kerotan> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
2008-03-17 19:48 < Kerotan> a good site.
2008-03-17 19:48 < Pyro3d> I'm guessing I'm not the only one who sees wikipedia down?
2008-03-17 19:48 < Warpath> all wikis down? O_O
2008-03-17 19:48 < Seddon69> good but wrong :P
2008-03-17 19:48 < Juliancolton> Is commons up?
2008-03-17 19:49 < pjoter> wiki is WHAT Pyro3d ?
2008-03-17 19:49 < Warpath> nope all down !!
2008-03-17 19:49 < RattleMan> Kero - It says EN is up XD
2008-03-17 19:49 < Kerotan> hehe
2008-03-17 19:49 < eadthem> en.wikipedia.org cannot be reached with ping
2008-03-17 19:49 < Seddon69> i got half apage again
2008-03-17 19:49 < Pyro3d> >_>
2008-03-17 19:49 < Kerotan> I tried wikipedia.org :P
2008-03-17 19:49 < tepples> I guess someone finally made wiki-wiki-wiki shut up.
2008-03-17 19:49 < Juliancolton> What page is it?
2008-03-17 19:49 < tepples> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pWX46lJc1Y
2008-03-17 19:49 < Octane[WP]> [20:48:18] <Warpath> all wikis down? O_O <-- Including Wikiversity, Wiktionary, etc. They're all bamf'd.
2008-03-17 19:49 < Warpath> servers down. we are being attacked By Martians !!!
2008-03-17 19:49 < Seddon69> wikimania works though
2008-03-17 19:50 < Scott5114> My weather server shows Florida at 72 degrees with an east wind.
2008-03-17 19:50 < Octane[WP]> It is the work of Anonymous :o!
2008-03-17 19:50 < pjoter> anybody pressed a button recently??
2008-03-17 19:50 < eadthem> war no need to loose your head someone prob just tripped over a network cable
2008-03-17 19:50 < DeadEyeArrow> nothing with the ping over here either
2008-03-17 19:50 < tepples> commons down
2008-03-17 19:50 < eidolon> i haven't gotten an update in 10+ minutes.
2008-03-17 19:50 < eadthem> or a router prob just blew up somthing simple
2008-03-17 19:50 < mexicanbanana> Does Paint.NET have an IRC channel?
2008-03-17 19:50 < TheoMurpse> i trace all the way to miami then it goes down
2008-03-17 19:50 < ShakespeareFan00> Warpath: ROFL
2008-03-17 19:50 < eidolon> (DOOM! DOOOOM!)
2008-03-17 19:50 < eidolon> i mean.
2008-03-17 19:50 < Mark_Ryan> mexicanbanana: you should check its Wikipedia article
2008-03-17 19:51 < tepples> on answers.com that is
2008-03-17 19:51 < Pyro3d> lulp.
2008-03-17 19:51 < Octane[WP]> [20:49:55] <mexicanbanana> Does Paint.NET have an IRC channel? <-- I don't think so O.o
2008-03-17 19:51 < ShakespeareFan00> Octane[WP] : What make you think it's anon?
2008-03-17 19:51 < pjoter> paint.net's not bad thugh
2008-03-17 19:51 < Kjoonlee> ah so it wasn't just me
2008-03-17 19:51 * eidolon watches folks flood in.
2008-03-17 19:51 < jeffz> just curious
2008-03-17 19:51 < eadthem> http://www.swgprecu.com/paste/viewp.php?id=20080317175112-7063 tracert sugessfule to en.wikipedia.com
2008-03-17 19:51 < RattleMan> Most of the time, the flood will occur when the WP "error" page is up
2008-03-17 19:51 < tepples> makes me grateful for all the mirrors and Ψ's
2008-03-17 19:51 < pjoter> wiki wiki wiki ^^ tepples
2008-03-17 19:52 < Bobert> What's going on with Wikipedia ... I cant access it?
2008-03-17 19:52 < jeffz> Bobert: read the topic
2008-03-17 19:52 < Octane[WP]> [20:50:43] <ShakespeareFan00> Octane[WP] : What make you think it's anon? <-- Call it...intuition.
2008-03-17 19:52 < Bobert> where?
2008-03-17 19:52 < Kerotan> Does anyone read the topic anymore?
2008-03-17 19:52 < jeffz> Bobert: when you joined
2008-03-17 19:52 < eadthem> aparently not
2008-03-17 19:52 < Casull> Kerotan: This is IRC, NO ONE reads the topic
2008-03-17 19:52 < ShakespeareFan00> Octane[WP]: Why woudl Anon DOS Wikipedia?
2008-03-17 19:52 < Mark_Ryan> there's also an entry message describing the problem to people who enter the channel
2008-03-17 19:52 < jeffz> I read the topic.
2008-03-17 19:52 < Casull> Ever, srsly
2008-03-17 19:52 < ShakespeareFan00> Wikipedia been rtaher firendly to them recently
2008-03-17 19:52 < ShakespeareFan00> :)
2008-03-17 19:52 < eidolon> i read it!
2008-03-17 19:52 < ShakespeareFan00> My best guess is a cable breach or mis route
2008-03-17 19:52 < Bobert> Can anyone else get on Wikipedia??????
2008-03-17 19:53 < RattleMan> Bobert - NO
2008-03-17 19:53 < jeffz> Bobert: read the topic !!!!!!
2008-03-17 19:53 < Mark_Ryan> maybe the fire alarm went off in the colo facility
2008-03-17 19:53 < Seddon69> Master_son pulled the cable out :P
2008-03-17 19:53 < Bobert> really???
2008-03-17 19:53 < Kerotan> Casull: Yeah my mistake, its also ironic that people have to ask me what RTFM is as well which kinda makes saying it pointless.
2008-03-17 19:53 < jeffz> Bobert: realy !!!
2008-03-17 19:53 < Bobert> what's going on???
2008-03-17 19:53 < eadthem> http://www.swgprecu.com/paste/viewp.php?id=20080317175257-7816 tracert to en.wikiversty.com cannot reach destnation
2008-03-17 19:53 < Stormscape> Anonymous... reminds me of that Fox News Story about 4chan.
2008-03-17 19:53 < Pilotguy> Mark_Ryan- heh
2008-03-17 19:53 < RattleMan> Someone set up us the bomb
2008-03-17 19:53 < anonymous_user> Mark, I believe that has already happened once in WP's history
2008-03-17 19:53 < jeffz> Bobert: what's with all the question marks ???
2008-03-17 19:53 < Mr_Gustafson> zpomg terrorism
2008-03-17 19:53 < Bobert> I'm really confused
2008-03-17 19:53 < pjoter> bobert - they won :-/
2008-03-17 19:53 < ShakespeareFan00> Stromscape: I doubt this is 'terrorism'
2008-03-17 19:53 < Bobert> who won?
2008-03-17 19:53 < Scott5114> Could it be something similar to that YouTube blackout that Pakistan caused?
2008-03-17 19:53 < tepples> answers.com won
2008-03-17 19:53 < Mr_Gustafson> packet loss = osama bin hitler
2008-03-17 19:53 < ShakespeareFan00> Seriously :)
2008-03-17 19:53 < Gracenotes> Scott5114: no
2008-03-17 19:53 < pjoter> don't call their names!!
2008-03-17 19:53 < Pilotguy> Mark_Ryan- Someone must have set the sprinklers off, like they did in my dorm
2008-03-17 19:53 < Stormscape> OSAMA BIN FORGOTTEN
2008-03-17 19:53 < Mark_Ryan> anonymous_user: yes, which is why I was suggesting it :P a server facility that switches off all the computers in the event of a fire alarm. how smart. so much for data security
2008-03-17 19:54 < Bobert> Pjoter - who won?
2008-03-17 19:54 < RattleMan> Bobert - The communists :(
2008-03-17 19:54 < Messedrocker> hi gustafson
2008-03-17 19:54 < pjoter> Bobert: j/k
2008-03-17 19:54 < eadthem> bobert wikimedia is having a tenical issue it will most likely be back online quickly
2008-03-17 19:54 < pjoter> forget it
2008-03-17 19:54 * pjoter looks around
2008-03-17 19:54 < Bobert> wow
2008-03-17 19:54 < Jtkiefer> Mark, that might explain why I know that
2008-03-17 19:54 < Mr_Gustafson> hey mess
2008-03-17 19:54 < Jtkiefer> :0
2008-03-17 19:54 < Kerotan> I have just seen this channel inflate so much.
2008-03-17 19:54 < Kingturtle> why is the ocean salty? http://www.palomar.edu/oceanography/salty_ocean.htm
2008-03-17 19:54 * tepples goes and opens all his en.wp tabs in answers.com
2008-03-17 19:54 < pjoter> lol Kingturtle
2008-03-17 19:54 < Bobert> just when I thought Wikipedia was invincible
2008-03-17 19:54 < Mark_Ryan> Jtkiefer, hi! :)
2008-03-17 19:54 < RattleMan> Kero - This is nowhere near the record of ~960 people
2008-03-17 19:55 < Bobert> this is just the overflow channel
2008-03-17 19:55 < Rinn> 960 people? What happened?
2008-03-17 19:55 < ShakespeareFan00> No site is invincible
2008-03-17 19:55 < Gracenotes> millionth article
2008-03-17 19:55 < Bobert> a blackout
2008-03-17 19:55 < RattleMan> WP went down :P
2008-03-17 19:55 < pjoter> glad newclues still up
2008-03-17 19:55 < Mark_Ryan> downtime that actually showed the error message and directed people here
2008-03-17 19:55 < Gracenotes> that was pretty big
2008-03-17 19:55 < ShakespeareFan00> Rinn: "Technical Diifculties!"
2008-03-17 19:55 < Kerotan> Rattleman:Its a fast acceleration of people
2008-03-17 19:55 < Gracenotes> not sure that reached 960 people, though
2008-03-17 19:55 < Jtkiefer> I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad time that anyone remembers me here and/or anyone is here that I remember from the old days but long time no see
2008-03-17 19:55 < Jtkiefer> maybe it's another DNS wipe
2008-03-17 19:55 < DGMurdockIII> at least you could go to http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Main_Page
2008-03-17 19:55 < ShakespeareFan00> Wikipedia has gone down before people
2008-03-17 19:55 < Jtkiefer> it's happend at least a few times
2008-03-17 19:55 < Jtkiefer> *happened
2008-03-17 19:55 < Kingturtle> columbia protests, 1968: http://www.columbia1968.info/
2008-03-17 19:56 < Jtkiefer> totally misdirect away from the squids
2008-03-17 19:56 < ShakespeareFan00> I assume Wikia is out as well?
2008-03-17 19:56 < Mark_Ryan> Jtkiefer: mmm, that's not good
2008-03-17 19:56 < Kjoonlee> http://www.omegawiki.org/
2008-03-17 19:56 < Kjoonlee> does anyone know this place?
2008-03-17 19:56 < Stormscape> 1 cubic foot of sea water evaporates it yields about 2.2 pounds of salt <-wow
2008-03-17 19:56 < Pilotguy> DGMurdockIII- or http://en.veropedia.com
2008-03-17 19:56 < Kerotan> We have conservapedia to entertain us while we wait.
2008-03-17 19:56 < Stormscape> Kerotan: lolcatbible imo
2008-03-17 19:56 < Mark_Ryan> no, looks like wikia is up
2008-03-17 19:56 < bogdan2005> Kerotan: haha :D
2008-03-17 19:56 < Jtkiefer> Mark, I'm getting absolutely no response from WP's servers at all so it's possible
2008-03-17 19:56 < pjoter> jiiiha
2008-03-17 19:56 < SS_Lazio> you folks are such figures
2008-03-17 19:56 < Cyrius> I suggest everyone move to Uncyclopedia, it's far more reliable
2008-03-17 19:56 < reisio> heh
2008-03-17 19:56 < tepples> uncyc appears to be up, so wikia is up
2008-03-17 19:56 < Stormscape> encyclopaediadramatica imo
2008-03-17 19:57 < ShakespeareFan00> Hmm is Wikia in the same facility?
2008-03-17 19:57 < pjoter> wiki back in town
2008-03-17 19:57 < pjoter> down! darn it
2008-03-17 19:57 * tepples looks for people wielding banhammer
2008-03-17 19:57 * Cyrius reads Kingturtle's salty ocean article
2008-03-17 19:57 < Stormscape> According to the lolcat bible, Ceiling_Cat made the Earth.
2008-03-17 19:57 < Mark_Ryan> it looks back to me
2008-03-17 19:57 < Kerotan> he did.
2008-03-17 19:57 < Stormscape> Ceiling_Cat is god =O
2008-03-17 19:57 < SS_Lazio> godess
2008-03-17 19:57 < SS_Lazio> coz she's a girl
2008-03-17 19:58 < SS_Lazio> :P
2008-03-17 19:58 < eadthem> appers wikivesrty is back online and wikipedia is still down
2008-03-17 19:58 < Jtkiefer> actually I'm surprised the channel hasn't been set to +m considering
2008-03-17 19:58 < Kerotan> Celing_cat is the be all and end all.
2008-03-17 19:58 < Cyrius> Jtkiefer: mostly behaving itself
2008-03-17 19:58 < ShakespeareFan00> Nah it's not too bad yet
2008-03-17 19:58 < Mark_Ryan> Jtkiefer: probably around 500 is where that starts becoming necessary
2008-03-17 19:58 < Rinn> Let's start a political debate!
2008-03-17 19:58 < Stormscape> NO.
2008-03-17 19:58 < Rinn> Hillary Clinton sucks!
2008-03-17 19:58 < Stormscape> It'll end in bans.
2008-03-17 19:58 < tepples> whose politics?
2008-03-17 19:58 < Jtkiefer> for god sakes Rinn please don't
2008-03-17 19:58 < Stormscape> And tears.
2008-03-17 19:58 < Stormscape> Hilary Clinton can suck.
2008-03-17 19:58 < Kerotan> Stormscape:Wise is he.
2008-03-17 19:58 < pjoter> ^^
2008-03-17 19:58 < tepples> who needs USA politics?
2008-03-17 19:59 < Jtkiefer> it's going to be chaotic enough
2008-03-17 19:59 < pjoter> go hillbilly go!
2008-03-17 19:59 * Master_son ignores Rinn
2008-03-17 19:59 < tepples> there are nearly 199 other countries to talk about
2008-03-17 19:59 < pjoter> http://www.keithwhite.us/hillbilly.html
2008-03-17 19:59 < The359> lot of people entering the room lately...
2008-03-17 19:59 < reisio> actually, statistically... it would be very unlikely Hillary Clinton has never given head
2008-03-17 19:59 < The359> oh, I see
2008-03-17 19:59 < The359> WP down
2008-03-17 19:59 < Capn_Refsmmat> indeed
2008-03-17 19:59 * The359 blames people who touch themselves
2008-03-17 19:59 < ShakespeareFan00> The359: "Normal Chaos will be resumed shortly!" ;)
2008-03-17 19:59 < Mark_Ryan> The359, you're obviously not dedicated enough
2008-03-17 19:59 < Kerotan> yeah.
2008-03-17 19:59 < pjoter> i can't read up
2008-03-17 19:59 < The359> I just got back from dinner, Mark_Ryan
2008-03-17 19:59 < Stormscape> The359 so basically every man on Earth
2008-03-17 19:59 < Master_son> Mark_Ryan: LMFAO!!!
2008-03-17 19:59 < Kerotan> its been down for what all of 20mins.
2008-03-17 19:59 < eadthem> nvm its all down still lol i got wikivesrty long enuff to load the page and not beable to commit my changes
2008-03-17 20:00 < Mark_Ryan> The359: that is NO excuse
2008-03-17 20:00 < Jtkiefer> If you have to comment on WP being down then you'll never become a WP admin :)
2008-03-17 20:00 < ShakespeareFan00> The359 "Every time you m*****e god kills a server" ? ;)
2008-03-17 20:00 * tepples runs another traceroute from indiana to wp
2008-03-17 20:00 < Jtkiefer> you have to know WP is down before it goes down
2008-03-17 20:00 < Stormscape> Everytime you kill a server, God masturbates.
2008-03-17 20:00 < Jtkiefer> and refresh the page every 5 secs until it comes back up
2008-03-17 20:00 < The359> m*****e?
2008-03-17 20:00 < The359> masturbate wont fit there
2008-03-17 20:00 < whoa_boat> OH MY GOD
2008-03-17 20:01 < whoa_boat> HOW LONG HAS WIKIPEDIA BEEN DOWN?!
2008-03-17 20:01 < ShakespeareFan00> Don't take the starts literally
2008-03-17 20:01 < whoa_boat> WHAT IS THIS SHIT
2008-03-17 20:01 < Mark_Ryan> no, you don't refresh the page, Jtkiefer. you just join this channel and wait until people start quitting IRC en masse, then you know it's back
2008-03-17 20:01 < Kerotan> I feel sorry for freenode having to host all these wikipedians who flood here whenever wikipedia breaks.
2008-03-17 20:01 < ShakespeareFan00> A small while
2008-03-17 20:01 < The359> calm down whoa_boat
2008-03-17 20:01 < Rinn> Mandate?
2008-03-17 20:01 < whoa_boat> HOLY HLEL
2008-03-17 20:01 < recourse> yeah!
2008-03-17 20:01 < Rinn> Every time you mandate God kills a server?
2008-03-17 20:01 < The359> turn off your caps lock, whoa_boat
2008-03-17 20:01 < whoa_boat> HOW CAN I CALM DOWN?!
2008-03-17 20:01 < Seddon69> ITS BACK
2008-03-17 20:01 < NotACow> DEATH TO PPOOOOT
2008-03-17 20:01 < RattleMan> Take a chill pill ;)
2008-03-17 20:01 < tepples> HOW DO I SHOT WEB?
2008-03-17 20:01 < Mr_Gustafson> what is High Packet Loss?
2008-03-17 20:01 < neohaven> Kerotan: wiki never broke as long as I knew?
2008-03-17 20:01 < pjoter> BACKBACK BACK
2008-03-17 20:01 < TheLetterE> keep quiet whoa_boat
2008-03-17 20:01 < RattleMan> Seddon - Not for me
2008-03-17 20:01 < Mark_Ryan> it's not back properly
2008-03-17 20:01 < ShakespeareFan00> pjoter: It will be aw a while yet
2008-03-17 20:01 < tepples> I just ran a traceroute, and the two closest servers that are responsive are g7-0.pr0.tpax.hgtn.net and 66.113.197.94
2008-03-17 20:01 < Rinn> Every time you massage?
2008-03-17 20:01 < Kerotan> ITS ALIVe,
2008-03-17 20:01 < wimt> Back quite well here.
2008-03-17 20:01 < TheLetterE> STOP
2008-03-17 20:01 < recourse> Mr_Gustafson: lots of packets not getting through
2008-03-17 20:01 < Seddon69> I HAVE LIFE
2008-03-17 20:01 < ShakespeareFan00> and will be on db block for a bit
2008-03-17 20:01 < Seddon69> ITS ALIIIVE ITS ALLIIIIVE
2008-03-17 20:01 < mexicanbanana> Do no normal people live in Silicon Valey? Or just geeks?
2008-03-17 20:01 < Juliancolton> Seddon, it's back?!
2008-03-17 20:02 < MrZ-man> the internets broke
2008-03-17 20:02 < Rinn> Every time you measure?
2008-03-17 20:02 < neohaven> Mr_Gustafson: get this, you send data in packets over the internet.
2008-03-17 20:02 < Juliancolton> Not in NY, it's not
2008-03-17 20:02 < recourse> Mr_Gustafson: packets being groups of data sent between computers
2008-03-17 20:02 < neohaven> if they get lost in transfer...
2008-03-17 20:02 < Seddon69> WOOOO Wales rules :)
2008-03-17 20:02 < neohaven> that's packet loss
2008-03-17 20:02 < Neobird43> :<
2008-03-17 20:02 < bogdan2005> my packets go via Frankfurt, Amsterdam, New York, St. Petersburg.
2008-03-17 20:02 < pjoter> pls stop i have to read up
2008-03-17 20:02 < neohaven> ie. they don't reach the other end.
2008-03-17 20:02 < tepples> packet loss is when your packets spill out of the tubes
2008-03-17 20:02 < Jtkiefer> Mark, used to be more fun when WP went down, we had hundred of people flood the channel, us ops (formerly) went rogue and became harsh dictators, then we locked down the channel and made people give us sexual favors for the privilege to talk
2008-03-17 20:02 < Neobird43> My world is ruined because Wiki is down.
2008-03-17 20:02 < Neobird43> /wrist
2008-03-17 20:02 < ShakespeareFan00> The net's had a hemmorage ;)
2008-03-17 20:02 < Kerotan> and yet the recent changes didn't slow down throughout that.
2008-03-17 20:02 < Seddon69> Wiki is up :)
2008-03-17 20:02 < Neobird43> D:
2008-03-17 20:02 < The359> Your packets! They are stealing my megahurtz!
2008-03-17 20:02 < Stormscape> liar
2008-03-17 20:02 < pjoter> BACK!!!
2008-03-17 20:02 < tepples> don't cut your wrist. instead read answers.com
2008-03-17 20:02 < Kerotan> How very odd.
2008-03-17 20:03 < Mark_Ryan> Jtkiefer: I still do that, what are you talking about?
2008-03-17 20:03 < mexicanbanana> HELLOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo!1111111
2008-03-17 20:03 < pjoter> works great over here
2008-03-17 20:03 < RattleMan> Seddon - Not for me ;_________;
2008-03-17 20:03 < mexicanbanana> GRRRR!
2008-03-17 20:03 < denelson83> Seddon69: Still down
2008-03-17 20:03 < reisio> read everything2.com
2008-03-17 20:03 < Stormscape> It's not up for me
2008-03-17 20:03 < reisio> you'll not have enough time to cut your wrists
2008-03-17 20:03 < Kerotan> I am using a dutch server at the moment.
2008-03-17 20:03 < bogdan2005> hey, I am an admin on en.wiki. Do you think anyone would give me sexual favours for anything related to wikipedia? :P
2008-03-17 20:03 < Stormscape> Everytime you lie, God removes 1 second from your life.
2008-03-17 20:03 < TheoMurpse> I thought there were Wikipedia servers across the globe. If so, shouldn't I be able to go to a foreign wikipedia server?
2008-03-17 20:03 * Seddon69 enjoys the free encyclopedia whilst everyone suffers
2008-03-17 20:03 < pjoter> 91.198.174.2 does it for me
2008-03-17 20:03 < Prentice> few
2008-03-17 20:03 < Mark_Ryan> Look, just because some of you get your pages to load fast, doesn't mean it's "back", it just means that it's in the process of being fixed
2008-03-17 20:03 < TheLetterE> oops
2008-03-17 20:03 < Rinn> CHAOS! CONFUSION!
2008-03-17 20:03 < Random833> bogdan2005: that only happens to Jimbo
2008-03-17 20:03 * reisio could actually drive to the wikipedia servers' physical location in just a few hours
2008-03-17 20:03 < Pilotguy> TheLetterE- ...
2008-03-17 20:03 < TheLetterE> friggin g hell
2008-03-17 20:03 < bogdan2005> Random832: hehehe :D
2008-03-17 20:03 < DeadEyeArrow> Well, least we don't have to worry bout vandals.....
2008-03-17 20:03 < Pilotguy> Hello ggreer
2008-03-17 20:03 < bogdan2005> Random832: not fair!
2008-03-17 20:03 < The359> wtf?
2008-03-17 20:03 < Messedrocker> TheoMurpse, they're only caches of the main servers in Florida
2008-03-17 20:03 < pjoter> aah it's to fast in here
2008-03-17 20:03 < denelson83> bogdan2005: TMI
2008-03-17 20:03 < bogdan2005> Random832: we're an egalitarian encyclopedia! :P
2008-03-17 20:03 < reisio> TheLetterE: I haven't really kept track, but I thought the bulk were all in Florida :p
2008-03-17 20:04 < ShakespeareFan00> RINN: "IT'S A COOKBOOK! IT'S A COOKBOOK!" ;)
2008-03-17 20:04 < recourse> damn! running mtr...thats alot of packet loss..
2008-03-17 20:04 < Random833> so how long has it been down?
2008-03-17 20:04 < TheLetterE> the text is flowing up too fast
2008-03-17 20:04 < denelson83> about a half-hour now
2008-03-17 20:04 < TheLetterE> clicking wrong people
2008-03-17 20:04 < aomarks> can't... think... augmented brain... missing...
2008-03-17 20:04 < TheLetterE> :(
2008-03-17 20:04 * Seddon69 can edit :)
2008-03-17 20:04 < Pilotguy> TheLetterE- Which is why you need to just take it easy
2008-03-17 20:04 < TheoMurpse> Messedrocker: so when the FL server goes down, the others are down because they cache the nothingness that is currently FL servers?
2008-03-17 20:04 < pjoter> i can't read all that in here PLUS wikipedia! pls stop
2008-03-17 20:04 < Messedrocker> TheoMurpse, I don't know
2008-03-17 20:04 * Mr_Gustafson resists making jokes about the site going down like <insert celebrity here>
2008-03-17 20:04 < TheoMurpse> haha 91.198.174.2 gives me "wiki does not exist"
2008-03-17 20:04 < Stormscape> Still not loading here.
2008-03-17 20:04 < recourse> TheoMurpse: I doubt its like htat
2008-03-17 20:04 < digital_me> TheoMurpse: they're all load balanced, so if the balancer is down, then nothing works
2008-03-17 20:05 < pjoter> lol me too TheoMurpse sorry
2008-03-17 20:05 < ggreer> yo Pilotguy
2008-03-17 20:05 < TheoMurpse> digital_me: ah. Gotcha.
2008-03-17 20:05 < TheoMurpse> thanks
2008-03-17 20:05 < neohaven> actually... did they try Packet over Air or something?
2008-03-17 20:05 < Seddon69> thats a damm fine front page i can see :P
2008-03-17 20:05 < Rinn> WIKIPEDIA IS DOWN! HOW WILL WE EVER FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE OF MACARONI & CHEESE?!
2008-03-17 20:05 < neohaven> didn't they know it was a JOKE RFC?
2008-03-17 20:05 < pjoter> my fault
2008-03-17 20:05 < Jtkiefer> Gustafson, like Rachael Marsden on Jimbo
2008-03-17 20:05 < tepples> Rinn: answers.com
2008-03-17 20:05 < RudyValencia> Wow, Wikipedia is down :(
2008-03-17 20:05 < pjoter> it's all my fault
2008-03-17 20:05 < RattleMan> Seddon - Stop torturing me :(
2008-03-17 20:05 < pjoter> sorry
2008-03-17 20:05 < recourse> theres just one balancer? shit even my company has two load balancers for our web portal....(foundry serverirons!)
2008-03-17 20:05 < RudyValencia> yay
2008-03-17 20:05 < Random833> it happens occasionally
2008-03-17 20:05 < RudyValencia> there's answers.com :D
2008-03-17 20:05 < Mr_Gustafson> Jtkiefer: Plus two points
2008-03-17 20:05 < Random833> recourse: and how do clients choose between them?
2008-03-17 20:05 < Mark_Ryan> we're almost finished cleansing undesirable edits from the database, and it will be back up shortly
2008-03-17 20:06 < TheoMurpse> rinn: actually i'm translating that japanese cartoon on boingboing.net right now, and I need access to information about 1930s Japanese culture :( My #1 source is gone!!
2008-03-17 20:06 < RattleMan> Undesirable edits = ?
2008-03-17 20:06 < Stormscape> A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk I have a workstation..
2008-03-17 20:06 < pjoter> mmmh macaroni and cheese.....
2008-03-17 20:06 < Seddon69> ????
2008-03-17 20:06 < Gracenotes> Mark_Ryan: hush, you
2008-03-17 20:06 < eadthem> random round robin name
2008-03-17 20:06 < tepples> mmm, pie
2008-03-17 20:06 * Mark_Ryan starts conspiracy theories
2008-03-17 20:06 < Jtkiefer> Mark_Ryan, and presumably oversighting them
2008-03-17 20:06 * reisio calls out the pidgeon packet squadron
2008-03-17 20:06 < ShakespeareFan00> At least no-ones goign around saying ANON DID WMF yet ;) (
2008-03-17 20:06 < Random833> eadthem: so if one of them is down, they get an error half the time?
2008-03-17 20:06 < Kingturtle> while you wait, build your own solar system: http://www.exploratorium.edu/ronh/solar_system/
2008-03-17 20:06 < Gracenotes> Mark_Ryan: I can't believe you didn't start with DDOS
2008-03-17 20:06 < recourse> Random832: ..dns.. the serverirons have a virtual ip configured that points to the real ip's of the webservers. those serverirons are in a failover cluster also so if one goes down the other takes over.
2008-03-17 20:06 < Mark_Ryan> someone already suggested that one, Gracenotes
2008-03-17 20:06 < ShakespeareFan00> Gracenotes: It seems like a tehcnical issue not a DDOS
2008-03-17 20:06 < Random833> ok