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2008-03-16 23:04 < Lucifer_Cat> kmccoy: how many years of working?
2008-03-16 23:04 < gwern> I'm a little glad I didn't. I was considering buying shares in Adams Express Company, which invests in part in financials
2008-03-16 23:04 < kmccoy> gwern, I don't think I'll actually sell, it was just sort of a thought that appeared in the back of my mind. It just surprised me that the thought even happened.
2008-03-16 23:05 < kmccoy> Lucifer_Cat, I'm 26.
2008-03-16 23:05 < Lucifer_Cat> that does not imply anything about how many years u've worked :P .... but i get the general idea
2008-03-16 23:05 < gwern> 26? I'd be all in as far as stocks go; with that much time to go, you can afford a risky growth strategy
2008-03-16 23:06 < Fennec> gwern: don't get individual stocks, go find some index fund or mutual fund and have a /little/ diversification :P
2008-03-16 23:06 < kmccoy> Lucifer_Cat, I had my first job at 16, and I've been pretty much employed since then, to varying degrees.
2008-03-16 23:06 < Lucifer_Cat> i start working tomorrow morning :D
2008-03-16 23:06 < gwern> Fennec: ADX is a closed-end mutual fund
2008-03-16 23:06 < Fennec> ah, I see
2008-03-16 23:06 < Lucifer_Cat> though its not my first job, or even my first full time job either.
2008-03-16 23:06 < Fennec> carry on then :)
2008-03-16 23:07 < Fennec> nevermind me
2008-03-16 23:07 < Lucifer_Cat> its just my first full time job that pays full time.
2008-03-16 23:07 < kmccoy> Okay, kids, I'm not asking for financial advice. I'm just saying that for the first time, I'm actually nervous about the state of the economy enough that part of me considered crawling into my shell. :)
2008-03-16 23:08 < Lucifer_Cat> kmccoy: totally natural. even though u are 3 years older.
2008-03-16 23:08 < kmccoy> Lucifer_Cat, what's your job?
2008-03-16 23:08 < Lucifer_Cat> software analyst
2008-03-16 23:08 < Lucifer_Cat> but i'll be doing more programming than anything else i guess at the moment
2008-03-16 23:09 < kmccoy> Nice.
2008-03-16 23:09 < gwern> so stearns was bought for 2USD a share. wonder how much of a fall that represents from a year ago...
2008-03-16 23:09 < gwern> holy shit. google says a year ago, bear stearns was in the 150USD a share range
2008-03-16 23:09 < Lucifer_Cat> ouch
2008-03-16 23:10 < gwern> what does a software analyst actually do anyway?
2008-03-16 23:10 < privatemusings> analyses software, mainly.
2008-03-16 23:10 < gwern> the WP article is kind of general
2008-03-16 23:11 < Lucifer_Cat> i should check out what WP has to say
2008-03-16 23:11 < gwern> privatemusings: har har
2008-03-16 23:11 < privatemusings> (sorry)
2008-03-16 23:11 < privatemusings> ;-)
2008-03-16 23:11 < gwern> JPMorgan isn't even paying cash for stearns, it's a stock swap
2008-03-16 23:11 < gwern> ouch
2008-03-16 23:12 < gwern> 'Many well-known investors, from billionaire Joe Lewis to Bruce Sherman, the head of Legg Mason Inc.'s Private Capital Management Inc. money-management firm, have seen the value of their stakes in Bear Stearns plummet. The pain could be most acute for Bear Stearns's employees, who are steeped in a culture of personal ownership -- and hold about a third of the firm's shares outstanding.'
2008-03-16 23:12 < Lucifer_Cat> well we are expected to mostly program (as begineers) but combining masters and one year pre-masters job ex, i guess they'll let me design some module or look at specs and sketch up some design
2008-03-16 23:12 < Fennec> gwern: no fun.
2008-03-16 23:12 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Operation Tanne Ost]]
2008-03-16 23:12 < Ceiling_Cat> Hehe
2008-03-16 23:12 < Ceiling_Cat> it's not often you have a 3-way battle
2008-03-16 23:12 < Ceiling_Cat> Finns versus Germans versus Soviets
2008-03-16 23:13 < Fennec> diversification! ./~ it makes your portfolio strong. :P
2008-03-16 23:13 < Lucifer_Cat> gwern: though what a "Software Analyst" does varies by years of experience and level of seniority
2008-03-16 23:13 < gwern> Fennec: it reminds of enron
2008-03-16 23:13 < gwern> didn't people realize that owning shares in your company redoubles your risk?
2008-03-16 23:13 < Lucifer_Cat> haha this talk bout bonds and shares reminds me of the time i used to write software for a finance advice firm
2008-03-16 23:14 < gwern> if a company is doing like shit, that makes it all the more likely you will need your shares! and all the more likely the shares' value won't be there when you need them
2008-03-16 23:14 < Lucifer_Cat> ahhh... i would have thought that if lots of ppl have shares in the company, they are more inclined to work harder/better
2008-03-16 23:15 < Lucifer_Cat> and to do things to keep the company from sinking
2008-03-16 23:15 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: on the scale of a large company, a few people being a little more motivated doesn't help much
2008-03-16 23:16 < gwern> Lucifer_Cat: suppose you are highly paid, even if the company did brilliantly, 50% say, that still may not be a terrible large amount to you
2008-03-16 23:16 < Lucifer_Cat> by lots i meant a big % of... but for large companies that kinda unlikely though yes
2008-03-16 23:16 < gwern> since your salary is so much larger than the appreciation
2008-03-16 23:16 < Lucifer_Cat> hmmmmm
2008-03-16 23:17 < gwern> now, startups can motivate through stock since they give you a sizeable fraction
2008-03-16 23:17 < Lucifer_Cat> point point
2008-03-16 23:17 < gwern> (the stock basically is your salary there, not a supplement - even a fraction of a percent of a google is enough to make you a fuck-you millionaire)
2008-03-16 23:18 < Lucifer_Cat> so basically the "added initiative" isnt all that big... and the added risk is just stupid... you do have a point.
2008-03-16 23:19 < Luna-San> Plus if companies can give employees stocks instead of cash, they can defer actually paying them anything of hard value, thereby reducing their own risk.
2008-03-16 23:19 < Lucifer_Cat> hah... "if u had enough, you wouldnt be working... and if u need to work, you dont have enough"
2008-03-16 23:19 < gwern> yeah. and at an old company like bear stearns - no way. maybe the employee plans were structured in a way that they were irresistible a deal but you couldn't get out, but that's the only reason I'd accept for bear stearns employees having any but a token amount in their company's stock (the only other condition that'd warrant it IMO is insider trading...)
2008-03-16 23:20 < gwern> Luna-San: the company's incentive is obvious enough, yeah
2008-03-16 23:20 < Fennec> my new employer will be offering me a 15%-discount-type employee stock purchase program.
2008-03-16 23:21 < Fennec> I'm sure they had something of a similar calibre.
2008-03-16 23:21 < gwern> Fennec: how do you cash out? I'd keep in mind the example of enron and now bear stearns...
2008-03-16 23:21 < Fennec> oh, and I get RSUs and options and such, too. lots of those...
2008-03-16 23:22 < Fennec> gwern: It'll be done through some E-Trade account.
2008-03-16 23:23 < Fennec> I have yet to engage a financial advisor to discuss the relative merits (particularly the tax-related ones) of long- versus short-term ownership.
2008-03-16 23:30 < gwern> 'Richard Stallman (diff; adah) (hist) . . (+5) . . Rmstallman (Talk | contribs) (My folk dancing in 1975 was not a "troupe" (performance group), just)'
2008-03-16 23:31 < Mike_H> People give a shit about his folk dancing in 1975?
2008-03-16 23:32 < nokmar> stallman went folk dancing in 1975?
2008-03-16 23:34 < Master_son> Moar catz plz!!! :P
2008-03-16 23:34 * Mike_H pets Master_son
2008-03-16 23:35 * Master_son purrs
2008-03-16 23:48 < kmccoy> Does anyone here use Grand Central?
2008-03-16 23:57 < Fennec> kmccoy: been there four or five times, but I'm on the wrong coast for that now.
2008-03-16 23:57 < Fennec> >.>
2008-03-16 23:58 < kmccoy> I actually meant the telephone service from Google, but I found my answer. :)
2008-03-16 23:58 * Fennec figured you meant some [Internetty-related service thingy] but didn't remember what it was :P
2008-03-16 23:58 < brown_cat> heya peoples!
2008-03-16 23:58 < brown_cat> :)
2008-03-17 00:00 < brown_cat> O_o AN AMERICAN IS ON THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL
2008-03-17 00:00 * brown_cat puts in ear plugs
2008-03-17 00:00 < brown_cat> he is shouting :'(
2008-03-17 00:06 < ancjr> :(
2008-03-17 00:20 < Ceogar> brown_cat hellu!
2008-03-17 00:20 * brown_cat fuggles Ceogar
2008-03-17 00:20 < Ceogar> whats up?
2008-03-17 00:21 < ancjr> one of my kittens is dying :(
2008-03-17 00:21 < brown_cat> :'(
2008-03-17 00:21 < brown_cat> nm, u?
2008-03-17 00:21 < ancjr> it's too weak to nurse and is getting cold :(
2008-03-17 00:22 < Luna-San> Kitty. =\
2008-03-17 00:22 < ancjr> it was the cutest of the litter too
2008-03-17 00:22 < nokmar> add blankets then
2008-03-17 00:23 < ancjr> nokmar, it's too late
2008-03-17 00:23 < ancjr> it's only 30hr old and hasn't nursed all day
2008-03-17 00:23 < nokmar> oh.
2008-03-17 00:23 < nokmar> dead kitty.
2008-03-17 00:23 < ancjr> yeah
2008-03-17 00:24 < nokmar> #wikimedia-cats will mourn
2008-03-17 00:25 * FastLizard4|Food is now going to bed, good night!
2008-03-17 00:25 < brown_cat> cya
2008-03-17 00:25 < brown_cat> x
2008-03-17 00:25 < Ceogar> watching alive
2008-03-17 00:28 < Mark_Away> huh, they found the Sydney
2008-03-17 00:29 * brown_cat watches Mark_Away
2008-03-17 00:32 < Luna-San> "The" Sydney?
2008-03-17 00:32 < brown_cat> hmas
2008-03-17 00:33 * Cyrius guesses it's a shipwreck
2008-03-17 00:33 < Cyrius> [[HMAS Sydney (1934)]]
2008-03-17 00:34 < Cyrius> huh, [[Search for HMAS Sydney and HSK Kormoran]]
2008-03-17 00:34 < Luna-San> Ooh, awesome
2008-03-17 00:36 < gwern> ancjr: look on the bright side - you have an opportunity few are granted - to discover exactly what a cat tastes like
2008-03-17 00:38 < gwern> a good night. a new xkcd and a new dresden codak
2008-03-17 00:52 < Tina> hi everyone
2008-03-17 00:52 < Tina> can anyone help me with chemistry ?
2008-03-17 00:52 < gwern> 'If you haven't already noticed, I've decided to make this blog my job, much like Aaron Diaz of Dresden Codak decided to do for his webcomic. In fact, we're using the exact same business model! After making my decision, I then decided to put off updating for a couple of weeks, and after this update is done I'm going to go off on a vacation. But don't worry, I'm selling you guys t-shirts, which is a perfectly acceptable substitute for ...
2008-03-17 00:53 < gwern> ... actual content, at least according to Aaron Diaz.' lol
2008-03-17 00:53 < kmccoy> Holy crap.
2008-03-17 00:53 < kmccoy> http://www.musiciansbuy.com/whirlwind_il19_line_level_iso_il19.html <-- isolation transformers are $70! I had no idea.
2008-03-17 00:54 < Cyrius> everything's expensive when it's being sold to musicians
2008-03-17 00:54 < Cyrius> and crammed into an XLR form factor, yeesh =)
2008-03-17 00:54 < gwern> 'If there weren't people on Wikipedia staunchly opposed to it, I guarantee you that there would be an article on her and this fucking awful webcomic ten times the size of the ones on Hitler, Stalin and Lex Luthor combined.'
2008-03-17 00:54 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> Dr. Ian: Toccara, have some class!
2008-03-17 00:54 < bumm13> hiya kmccoy
2008-03-17 00:54 < Mike_H> <Mike_H> Toccara: *screeching* Kiss! My! Ass!
2008-03-17 00:55 < kmccoy> I have like ten of those in my workbox. I didn't know they were so expensive. I guess I should be more careful about keeping track of them. :)
2008-03-17 00:55 < bumm13> :x
2008-03-17 00:55 < kmccoy> bumm13! :)
2008-03-17 00:55 < bumm13> kmccoy: I noticed that Sesame Street Live is coming to Portland in a month or so ;)
2008-03-17 00:56 < kmccoy> bumm13, nice. :) Are you near Portland? I'm coming there with Go Diego Go at some point.
2008-03-17 00:56 < bumm13> yes
2008-03-17 00:56 < bumm13> are you on the road right now?
2008-03-17 00:57 < kmccoy> Looks like the 12th and 13th of July, tentatively.
2008-03-17 00:57 < bumm13> ah
2008-03-17 00:57 < kmccoy> Yes, I'm in Red Bank, NJ for a day, then down to Norfolk, VA.
2008-03-17 00:57 < bumm13> ah
2008-03-17 00:57 < kmccoy> Next week we spend all week at Radio City Music Hall.
2008-03-17 00:58 < bumm13> nice
2008-03-17 01:20 < Ceiling_Cat> goodnight folks
2008-03-17 01:21 < bumm13> nite
2008-03-17 01:35 < gwern> 'I remember when we were drawing close to 1,000,000 articles and I was extrapolating when that might happen. It was not that close to April Fool’s Day but I remember thinking if we cross on April Fool’s Day I am going to send out a post to everyone saying, that was fun. I deleted everything. Let’s do it again. Start over. That was good. We’ll do it right this time.' -Jimbo Wales
2008-03-17 01:36 < jeremyb> google indexes inside comments?!?
2008-03-17 01:36 < jeremyb> that's about as bad as meta
2008-03-17 01:36 < jeremyb> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Aen.wikipedia.org+%22Bot+generated+title%22&btnG=Search
2008-03-17 01:37 < gwern> '...nor need you regret the hours you spent on much that is forgotten, for the shadow of lost knowledge at least protects you from many illusions.'
2008-03-17 01:37 < gwern> Sado Isle in view
2008-03-17 01:37 < gwern> day stretches to an end
2008-03-17 01:37 < gwern> on the vast sea
2008-03-17 01:38 < gwern> More than iron, more than lead, more than gold I need electricity.
2008-03-17 01:38 < gwern> I need it more than I need lamb or pork or lettuce or cucumber.
2008-03-17 01:38 < gwern> I need it for my dreams.
2008-03-17 02:00 < tawker> ok, crazy q
2008-03-17 02:00 < tawker> why don't we have an article for plane on a conveyor?
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> tempted to make long post
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> ok, nobody talking in a few, so long post
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> struct ComputerContractor
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> {
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> double salary;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> long lunches;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> float jobs;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> char unstable;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> void work;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> int hiring_him_again;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> const pain_in_the_arse;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> unsigned agreement;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> short fuse;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> volatile personality;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> static progress;
2008-03-17 02:04 < AppleBoy> };
2008-03-17 02:05 < AppleBoy> /* and there are no unions in sight */
2008-03-17 02:05 < tawker> lol
2008-03-17 02:05 < Mike_H> oh, that's cute
2008-03-17 02:05 < Mike_H> that's poetry
2008-03-17 02:05 < Mike_H> almost like a Janet Jackson song
2008-03-17 02:05 < Mike_H> Rhythm Nation 1101010101001010101010110
2008-03-17 02:05 < AppleBoy> o_O
2008-03-17 02:18 < Mole2> Hello every one. Somethings IS weird with Wikipedia lately.
2008-03-17 02:18 < Mole2> I noticed it been slow for several days now. And that it doesn't update templates and categories when I modify them. (I have often have to use purge on them.)
2008-03-17 02:19 < Mole2> And every now and then I get a red box on my watchlist stating: "Database server lag".
2008-03-17 02:19 < Mole2> And so on.
2008-03-17 02:19 < Mole2> Inspite the job queue most of the time is really low.
2008-03-17 02:20 < Mole2> Seems most of the rendering servers have been down for some week now?
2008-03-17 02:20 < Mole2> Any one know anything about what is going on?
2008-03-17 02:43 < Casull> Holy Christ, how did this guy manage to get away with copy/pasting MONTY PYTHON all over various wiki articles?
2008-03-17 02:59 < AdamBishop> what guy
2008-03-17 03:25 < Mole2> Any admin on enwp awake?
2008-03-17 03:25 < Mole2> I need help with one of my templates.
2008-03-17 03:25 < Mole2> *two of my
2008-03-17 03:25 < Mole2> They got protected tonight since they are going to be high risk.
2008-03-17 03:26 < Mole2> But the admin who protected them put the "protection tag" outside the noinclude tags so now they are broken. :(
2008-03-17 03:26 < AdamBishop> I can take a look
2008-03-17 03:26 < Mole2> I had an editrequest up for some hours now without getting it fixed.
2008-03-17 03:26 < Mole2> Thanks.
2008-03-17 03:26 < AdamBishop> where are they
2008-03-17 03:26 < Mole2> [[Template_talk:Main_talk_other]]
2008-03-17 03:27 < Mole2> There is the problem description.
2008-03-17 03:27 < Mole2> I want to start "advertising" them now. :)
2008-03-17 03:27 < Mole2> That is, start linking them from all the relevant pages.
2008-03-17 03:27 < Mole2> But I can't do that if they are broken...
2008-03-17 03:28 < AdamBishop> where are the noinclude tags supposed to go
2008-03-17 03:28 < Mole2> Well, the noinclude tags are right at the end of the template code, as usual.
2008-03-17 03:28 < Luna-San> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_talk_other&diff=198802147&oldid=198761523 <-- that seems to have fixed it?
2008-03-17 03:28 < Mole2> And the {{pp-template|small=yes}} should be put in that area.
2008-03-17 03:29 < AdamBishop> looks like someone already fixed it
2008-03-17 03:29 < Mole2> I guess when articles get protected the tags usually are put on page top, right? But in templates we have the noinclude area at page bottom instead. Guess that can be confusing to admins not used to template coding. :(
2008-03-17 03:29 < AdamBishop> er, yes, as Luna-San just said
2008-03-17 03:30 < Mole2> AdamBishop: Oh, he, they just got fixed some minut ago. :)
2008-03-17 03:30 < Mole2> Ok, thanks AdamBishop. I'll go check if they are in proper shape now.
2008-03-17 03:35 < Mole2> Ah yes, now they work perfectly. Code looks as it should and they pass all the tests on my testpage.
2008-03-17 03:35 < Mole2> Luna-San: I guess you are Od Mishehu? Thanks.
2008-03-17 03:35 < Luna-San> Nope. Just saw the edit.
2008-03-17 03:35 < Mole2> He, funny timing then.
2008-03-17 03:36 < Luna-San> Yeah. :p Was looking to see what to change, saw it seemed to be okay so checked historyu
2008-03-17 03:36 < Mole2> Guess I was to impatient...
2008-03-17 03:36 * Mole2 goes linking those templates from all relevant pages. :))
2008-03-17 03:46 < Luna-San> Template issues get tricky. Easy to make mistakes that wind up multiplying over goodness many pages. x.x
2008-03-17 03:47 < ancjr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQcBVrFUJcM
2008-03-17 03:51 < Mike_H> ancjr: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xDzy_v1dNs
2008-03-17 03:51 < Mike_H> the best reality TV moment so far in '08
2008-03-17 03:53 < ancjr> hah
2008-03-17 03:56 < Mike_H> ancjr: I'm gonna give you something sugarcooked.
2008-03-17 03:56 < bumm13> hiya Mike
2008-03-17 03:56 < Mike_H> bumm13: hi
2008-03-17 03:57 < Mike_H> bumm13: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5xDzy_v1dNs
2008-03-17 03:57 < bumm13> I saw this Southern cooking lady on Food Network yesterday
2008-03-17 03:57 < bumm13> at the end of the show, she made orangeade
2008-03-17 03:57 < Mike_H> bumm13: did she have white hair
2008-03-17 03:59 < AdamBishop> that woman is nuts
2008-03-17 03:59 < bumm13> yes
2008-03-17 03:59 < Mike_H> AdamBishop: Who?
2008-03-17 03:59 < Mike_H> bumm13: Then you saw [[Paula Deen]]
2008-03-17 03:59 < bumm13> probably was her
2008-03-17 03:59 < AdamBishop> Paula Deen is nuts, I mean
2008-03-17 04:00 < Mike_H> AdamBishop: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fIyN7ZuiQLE
2008-03-17 04:00 < bumm13> (yes, it was her)
2008-03-17 04:02 < bumm13> lol
2008-03-17 04:02 < bumm13> she totally flipped
2008-03-17 04:03 < Mike_H> bumm13: She doesn't sugarcook.
2008-03-17 04:03 < bumm13> sugarcook?
2008-03-17 04:03 < Mike_H> bumm13: She said "sugarcook"
2008-03-17 04:03 < bumm13> :x
2008-03-17 04:03 < Mike_H> clearly she meant "sugarcoat"
2008-03-17 04:03 < bumm13> oh
2008-03-17 04:03 < bumm13> I didn't exactly transcribe her comments ;)
2008-03-17 04:03 < Mike_H> bumm13: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fIyN7ZuiQLE
2008-03-17 04:03 < rama> Hello. Can I request a favour from an en: admin ?
2008-03-17 04:05 < bumm13> lol!
2008-03-17 04:05 < bumm13> Dustin Diamond
2008-03-17 04:06 < Mike_H> bumm13: it was great
2008-03-17 04:06 < Mike_H> the drill sergeant asked Tina Yothers why she got so fat
2008-03-17 04:06 < Mike_H> and she said "I had a baby six weeks ago"
2008-03-17 04:06 < Mike_H> so the drill sergeant goes to Toccara and says "So, Toccara, you have a baby too? What's your excuse?"
2008-03-17 04:08 < bumm13> ah, the black-dyed hair chick was Yothers
2008-03-17 04:08 < Mike_H> yeah
2008-03-17 04:09 * bumm13 wonders if most younger people even know who these washed-up child actors are...
2008-03-17 04:09 < ancjr> "My lawyer with disembowel you, motherfucker!"
2008-03-17 04:09 < Mike_H> bumm13: Erin Moran is a hot mess
2008-03-17 04:09 < bumm13> oh, she's on there?
2008-03-17 04:09 < Mike_H> She straight up skank nasty
2008-03-17 04:09 < Mike_H> yeah
2008-03-17 04:09 < bumm13> oh dear
2008-03-17 04:09 < bumm13> she is
2008-03-17 04:10 < ancjr> i'd do tina yothers as-is
2008-03-17 04:10 < bumm13> incidentally, Chachi has his own silly show right now
2008-03-17 04:10 < ancjr> mmmmkaythx
2008-03-17 04:10 < bumm13> ancjr: chubby chaser? :)
2008-03-17 04:11 < ancjr> bumm13: proudly so
2008-03-17 04:11 < bumm13> :)
2008-03-17 04:11 * bumm13 isn't, but doesn't mind others who are
2008-03-17 04:11 < bumm13> they need lovin' too!
2008-03-17 04:11 < babilen> hi all.. i found interwiki links like this [[zh:%E9%AD%94%E8%A1%93]] in some articles
2008-03-17 04:11 < bumm13> besides, I ain't exactly skinny :P
2008-03-17 04:11 < babilen> what is this, and how do i translate it to unicode?
2008-03-17 04:12 < bumm13> babilen: that's asking a lot of mere mortals
2008-03-17 04:12 < babilen> is i enter these in my browser magic happens and it is translated correctly..
2008-03-17 04:13 < babilen> i need it because i am working with wikipedia in NLP research..
2008-03-17 04:13 < babilen> these interlanguage links are really nasty
2008-03-17 04:13 < babilen> it does not seem to be punycode though
2008-03-17 04:13 < Mike_H> bumm13: Celebrity Fit Club 5 was my favorite
2008-03-17 04:13 < bumm13_> ?? is the pasted text from the article itself
2008-03-17 04:14 < JohnFlux> Hey all
2008-03-17 04:14 < bumm13_> wait, that can't be right
2008-03-17 04:14 < JohnFlux> for weights, is it better to use 10lb (4 kg) or 4kg (10lb)
2008-03-17 04:14 < JohnFlux> ?
2008-03-17 04:14 < JohnFlux> or some other way
2008-03-17 04:15 < Mike_H> bumm13_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_Fit_Club_%28US_TV_series%29#Season_5_-_2007
2008-03-17 04:15 < Mike_H> It had the best people out of all the seasons
2008-03-17 04:15 < Mike_H> I think
2008-03-17 04:15 < bumm13_> 魔术
2008-03-17 04:16 < bumm13> the article title is 魔 术
2008-03-17 04:17 < bumm13> (U+9B54 and U+672F)
2008-03-17 04:17 < Mike_H> bumm13: I loved it when Kimberley Locke told Dustin Diamond off
2008-03-17 04:18 < Mike_H> She has been the focused target of derision from fellow cast member Dustin Diamond, who has repeatedly called her "a loser on another show [American Idol]." Later, he says, "She is a nobody...If there were eight of her here, nobody would watch the show."
2008-03-17 04:18 < Mike_H> She responded on-camera at a weigh-in ceremony, "Two-faced, backstabbing people who will smile in your face one day and eat you up the next. That's why I don't have anything to do with you...If you even fucking look at me, Dustin. [Because] you talk about losers? Let's talk about 'I'm a fucking child star. Now I've got a porn tape on TV and selling T-shirts to pay for my house note.'" He later walked off the stage.
2008-03-17 04:18 < arejay> didnt dustin diamond make a porn
2008-03-17 04:18 < arejay> :/
2008-03-17 04:18 < Mike_H> yeah ^^
2008-03-17 04:18 < Mike_H> He later offered her a sex toy in the shape of his penis, saying that she "needed one." The ensuing argument caused all other contestants to leave the stage. [7]
2008-03-17 04:19 < arejay> haha
2008-03-17 04:19 < bumm13> he's a fucking moron
2008-03-17 04:22 < Mike_H> Kimberley Dawn Locke (born January 3, 1978 in Hartsville, Tennessee) is an American adult contemporary pop/R&B singer and plus-size fashion model. In recent years, Locke has had eight Top 20 Adult Contemporary hits, and seven # 1's across various Billboard charts.
2008-03-17 04:23 < Mike_H> She gained fame with her participation in the 2003 American Idol television series, and in 2007 garnered media attention for her participation in Celebrity Fit Club.
2008-03-17 04:23 < arejay> i saw tom berenger the other day
2008-03-17 04:23 < arejay> at apple bees
2008-03-17 04:23 < arejay> :/
2008-03-17 04:23 < Mike_H> arejay: for real?
2008-03-17 04:23 < arejay> ya he was at the bar drinking
2008-03-17 04:23 < arejay> in beaufort, sc
2008-03-17 04:24 < bumm13> babilen: (mo2 zhu2 [or shu2]) :)
2008-03-17 04:24 < bumm13> I've been to Beaufort
2008-03-17 04:25 < arejay> i live on hilton-head island
2008-03-17 04:25 < bumm13> ah
2008-03-17 04:25 < bumm13> you have money?
2008-03-17 04:26 < arejay> a little :)
2008-03-17 04:26 < Mike_H> He has to if he's on Hilton Head! :D
2008-03-17 04:26 < bumm13> arejay: are you a programmer? (curious)
2008-03-17 04:26 < arejay> bumm13: web programmer/graphic design
2008-03-17 04:26 < bumm13> ah
2008-03-17 04:27 < bumm13> I've never actually been to Hilton Head Island
2008-03-17 04:27 < arejay> its really nice here, i love it.
2008-03-17 04:27 < bumm13> my older sister had her boot camp graduation 5½ years ago
2008-03-17 04:27 < bumm13> she was at Parris Island USMC
2008-03-17 04:28 < bumm13> lots of islands/islets and saltwater inlets in South Carolina
2008-03-17 04:28 < arejay> "low country"
2008-03-17 04:28 < bumm13> yep
2008-03-17 04:28 < arejay> salt marshes
2008-03-17 04:29 * bumm13 is in Washington (WA)
2008-03-17 04:29 * arejay is watching platoon
2008-03-17 04:29 < bumm13> heh
2008-03-17 04:29 * bumm13 wonders why his cat keeps acting like he's hungry :P
2008-03-17 04:35 < ThePolecat> wow
2008-03-17 04:36 * ThePolecat reads "tubesteak boogie" as a synonym for cohabitation
2008-03-17 04:37 < bumm13> :x
2008-03-17 04:37 < bumm13> tubesteak?
2008-03-17 04:38 < Mike_H> bumm13: I'm watching AI Rewind :DDD
2008-03-17 04:38 < bumm13> hmm, I've never heard of it
2008-03-17 04:38 < Mike_H> http://youtube.com/watch?v=P5Y9_idrRn8
2008-03-17 04:39 < Mike_H> bumm13: American Idol Rewind is an hour-long weekly syndicated series
2008-03-17 04:39 < Mike_H> with the best bits and performances and new interviews
2008-03-17 04:39 < Mike_H> from past seasons
2008-03-17 04:39 < Mike_H> 2006-2007 aired AI 1
2008-03-17 04:39 < Mike_H> and 2007-2008 is airing AI 2
2008-03-17 04:41 < ThePolecat> people overload
2008-03-17 04:45 < troubled> AppleBoy: http://picpaste.com/ComputerContractor.jpg
2008-03-17 04:45 < troubled> AppleBoy: (i was bored heh)
2008-03-17 04:46 < troubled> Mike_H: zomg! What are the odds a nick like that would find its way here lol
2008-03-17 04:49 * ThePolecat wonders how to clean the touchpad of his laptop
2008-03-17 04:53 < babilen> /wc/
2008-03-17 04:54 * ThePolecat realizes that Lynne Cheney is by far the most capable of the First Four
2008-03-17 04:54 < bumm13> the Fearsome Foursome? ;)
2008-03-17 04:54 < ThePolecat> heh, good one.
2008-03-17 04:55 < bumm13> :-)
2008-03-17 04:57 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> who wants to see a little tbsdy?
2008-03-17 04:59 < Warpath> ;O
2008-03-17 04:59 < Warpath> meeeeeeeeeeee :DD
2008-03-17 05:00 < Warpath> wow all chnas are dead O_o
2008-03-17 05:02 < ThePolecat> some right-wing racial theories are almost funny o.o
2008-03-17 05:03 * ThePolecat reads about a pre-33 group called the German Christians
2008-03-17 05:04 < mexicanbanana> Do no normal people live in Silicon Valey? Just geeks?
2008-03-17 05:04 < ThePolecat> those people are so fundamentally nuts, one has to almost admire the radicality of their loss of reality
2008-03-17 05:04 < ThePolecat> Rich people mostly, afaik.
2008-03-17 05:04 < ThePolecat> the bay is pretty expensive
2008-03-17 05:05 < mexicanbanana> What is that PoleCat talking about?
2008-03-17 05:05 < mexicanbanana> What bay?
2008-03-17 05:07 < ThePolecat> the San Francisco Bay
2008-03-17 05:09 < mexicanbanana> Everything I look up on Wikipedia is some fucking album by some shitty band.
2008-03-17 05:10 < mexicanbanana> And instead of having the real meaning defined, you have a huge article about that obscure crap.
2008-03-17 05:10 < ThePolecat> P.S.: If you want to know what I'm talking about, feel free to talk to me directly.
2008-03-17 05:10 < AdamBishop> well why do you look those up
2008-03-17 05:10 < mexicanbanana> Very seldom is there a disamb. page when there is an album with the same name.
2008-03-17 05:10 < AdamBishop> then make one
2008-03-17 05:10 < mexicanbanana> ...
2008-03-17 05:10 < mexicanbanana> You have to log in or some faggotry to create articles.
2008-03-17 05:11 < mexicanbanana> Which obviously means I won't do it.
2008-03-17 05:11 < ThePolecat> then kindly stfu
2008-03-17 05:11 < mexicanbanana> No.
2008-03-17 05:11 < mexicanbanana> You do that.
2008-03-17 05:11 < ThePolecat> you will eventually
2008-03-17 05:12 < Mike_H> mexicanbanana pisses me the fuck off
2008-03-17 05:12 < Mike_H> I'mma put a boot in his ass next time I see him
2008-03-17 05:12 < ThePolecat> He will eventually.
2008-03-17 05:12 < ThePolecat> :-)
2008-03-17 05:12 < ThePolecat> chill.
2008-03-17 05:12 < Mike_H> Girl, please
2008-03-17 05:12 < ThePolecat> Brb.
2008-03-17 05:12 * ThePolecat is male
2008-03-17 05:13 < Mike_H> Gay people don't care when they say girl, please
2008-03-17 05:19 < SQLDb> heh
2008-03-17 05:29 * brown_cat hits Mike_H over the head with an inflatable hammer
2008-03-17 05:31 * Werdna throws brown_cat an iron mallet
2008-03-17 05:32 < ThePolecat> foam hammers ftw
2008-03-17 05:33 * brown_cat beats Mike_H to death with an iron mallet
2008-03-17 05:33 < brown_cat> i swear i am doing this because you chose to be gay
2008-03-17 05:35 * brown_cat goes on a gay witch hunt
2008-03-17 05:36 < ThePolecat> gay witches are rare
2008-03-17 05:36 * brown_cat eyes ST47_
2008-03-17 05:36 * brown_cat cuddles ThePolecat
2008-03-17 05:37 < ThePolecat> I am not here...
2008-03-17 05:37 < ThePolecat> :-D
2008-03-17 05:37 < bumm13> my cat didn't wipe his rear than left entrails on my bed liner :O
2008-03-17 05:37 * ThePolecat channels Bubba Clinton
2008-03-17 05:37 < brown_cat> bumm13: or mabye that is your bf/gf
2008-03-17 05:37 < brown_cat> they both have similar standards
2008-03-17 05:38 < bumm13> *then
2008-03-17 05:39 * brown_cat hooks bumm13 up with theINC_
2008-03-17 05:39 * ThePolecat enjoys [[Fach]]
2008-03-17 05:39 < theINC_> lol that was quick
2008-03-17 05:39 < theINC_> are you a bot or are you a bot :P
2008-03-17 05:40 * bumm13 NP: Aldo Nova - Fantasy (1981)
2008-03-17 05:40 * brown_cat NP: A GOOD SONG
2008-03-17 05:41 * ThePolecat NP: Peter Green - something whose title I forgot
2008-03-17 05:41 * Rinn NP: Kirby Superstar - Flying into Nova
2008-03-17 05:41 * brown_cat is seriously NP: Stairway to kevin
2008-03-17 05:41 < theINC_> brown_cat: we DID climb that stairway to kevin
2008-03-17 05:42 < theINC_> and we're starting to pay for it :P
2008-03-17 05:42 < brown_cat> I know
2008-03-17 05:42 < brown_cat> and now we are suffering
2008-03-17 05:42 < brown_cat> rofl, excactly
2008-03-17 05:42 * Mike_H NP: Air Supply - Lost in Love (1981)
2008-03-17 05:42 < Mike_H> I think it was '81
2008-03-17 05:42 < Mike_H> sorry
2008-03-17 05:42 < Mike_H> 1980
2008-03-17 05:43 * brown_cat NP: Cirque Du Soleil: Ze homosessual we stone
2008-03-17 05:43 < brown_cat> *ve stone
2008-03-17 05:44 < ThePolecat> no one is to stone anyone before I blow this whistle.
2008-03-17 05:44 < brown_cat> :(
2008-03-17 05:48 < EmoBasset> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/BuddyTheBassettHound.jpg
2008-03-17 05:48 * Mike_H NP: Irene Cara - Fame (1980)
2008-03-17 05:48 * Mike_H dances with ThePolecat
2008-03-17 05:48 * Mike_H is gonna live forever
2008-03-17 05:48 < EmoBasset> I don't even know that song
2008-03-17 05:49 * brown_cat gives Mike_H some music from this millenium
2008-03-17 05:49 < Mike_H> EmoBasset: You don't know Fame?
2008-03-17 05:49 < EmoBasset> no
2008-03-17 05:49 < Mike_H> How can you not know Fame?
2008-03-17 05:49 < EmoBasset> I am ready to apologize in writing.
2008-03-17 05:49 < EmoBasset> Heck, everything on the internet is in writing
2008-03-17 05:49 < Mike_H> "Fame" is a pop song written by Michael Gore (music) and Dean Pitchford (lyrics) that was released in 1980 and achieved chart success as the theme song to the Fame movie and TV series.
2008-03-17 05:49 < Mike_H> "Fame" rose to #4 on the Billboard Hot 100 in the summer of 1980. It also rose to #1 on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Play chart for one week, and also topped the ARC Weekly Top 40 chart.
2008-03-17 05:49 * brown_cat shoots EmoBasset's dog in the face cheny style
2008-03-17 05:49 * brown_cat hides his pizza
2008-03-17 05:50 * EmoBasset gets peppered pretty well
2008-03-17 05:50 < Mike_H> The song was not released in the United Kingdom until 1982, so it would coincide with the UK premiere of the Fame television series. It hit #1 for three weeks.
2008-03-17 05:50 < NotASpy> O.O
2008-03-17 05:50 < NotASpy> go find the video for the song on YouTube
2008-03-17 05:50 < NotASpy> it's quite a well known video as well as the song being hugely well known
2008-03-17 05:50 < Mike_H> NotASpy: ok
2008-03-17 05:50 < NotASpy> one of only two number one's for Irene Cara
2008-03-17 05:50 < EmoBasset> "P-p-peppered! Pepperin' is what you do to a Cesar's salad! You *shot* that dood!"
2008-03-17 05:51 < NotASpy> (in the UK, that is)
2008-03-17 05:51 < Mike_H> NotACow: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tFyIPDTDfdU
2008-03-17 05:51 < Mike_H> er
2008-03-17 05:51 < Mike_H> NotASpy: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tFyIPDTDfdU
2008-03-17 05:51 < NotASpy> I'm on a campus PC - you'll forgive me if I don't open up the video and serenade my follow students with Fame, won't you.
2008-03-17 05:51 < Mike_H> NotASpy: haha
2008-03-17 05:52 < EmoBasset> that's *no* excuse.
2008-03-17 05:52 * EmoBasset listens to the Amazon sample
2008-03-17 05:52 < Mike_H> NotASpy: I feel it coming together
2008-03-17 05:52 < Mike_H> people will see me and cry.
2008-03-17 05:52 < Mike_H> (if they don't already)
2008-03-17 05:52 < EmoBasset> I didn't know that song.
2008-03-17 05:52 < EmoBasset> Oh I do
2008-03-17 05:52 < bumm13> gah, I hate conflicting sources of information
2008-03-17 05:52 < EmoBasset> yea
2008-03-17 05:53 < EmoBasset> but it's mingled in my head with a dozen others that sound exactly the same
2008-03-17 05:53 < EmoBasset> such as It's Raining Men
2008-03-17 05:53 < NotASpy> Mike_H: http://youtube.com/watch?v=r4C3CmmGUQk
2008-03-17 05:54 < Mike_H> NotASpy: Mine was from Solid Gold's Top 40 of 1980 countdown
2008-03-17 05:54 < Mike_H> (it was the #15 song of 1980)
2008-03-17 05:55 < NotASpy> I think mine's a clip from the film with the track being played. (Not having watched the film, I'm not entirely sure)
2008-03-17 05:55 < Mike_H> you're right
2008-03-17 05:55 < EmoBasset> "Thom Pace: Maybe"
2008-03-17 05:56 < EmoBasset> Who is Thom Pace? He was No. 1 in Germany in 1980
2008-03-17 05:56 < EmoBasset> "Olivia Newton-John & ELO: Xanadu"
2008-03-17 05:56 < EmoBasset> Oh goodness me.
2008-03-17 05:56 < EmoBasset> "Barbra Streisand: Woman In Love"
2008-03-17 05:56 < EmoBasset> "ABBA: Super Trouper"
2008-03-17 05:56 < EmoBasset> Consecutive number ones in 1980
2008-03-17 05:56 < NotASpy> this I can promise you'll love. http://youtube.com/watch?v=r4C3CmmGUQk
2008-03-17 05:57 < NotASpy> no, not that again.
2008-03-17 05:57 < Mike_H> NotASpy: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tNdJzrh5AsU
2008-03-17 05:57 < Mike_H> and that's the TV theme
2008-03-17 05:57 < Mike_H> I think this one was actually done by Erica Gimpel though
2008-03-17 05:57 < NotASpy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2KgO9vLOtc&feature=related
2008-03-17 05:58 * EmoBasset invokes the Geneva convention. Youtube needs to move to Cuba if they're gonna continue carrying that kind of stuff.
2008-03-17 05:59 < NotASpy> EmoBasset: that last video of mine went out to half a billion people across Europe. Live.
2008-03-17 05:59 < EmoBasset> I haven't seen any of them, I'm just extrapolating
2008-03-17 06:00 < NotASpy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6yFvYOBeXo&feature=related - that's a slightly better quality version of my last one.
2008-03-17 06:00 < EmoBasset> "# Fine Young Cannibals - She Drives Me Crazy"
2008-03-17 06:01 * EmoBasset turns off the radio
2008-03-17 06:01 * brown_cat cooks EmoBasset
2008-03-17 06:01 < brown_cat> mmmmmm
2008-03-17 06:01 < brown_cat> tastes like blood
2008-03-17 06:01 < brown_cat> ... and tears
2008-03-17 06:01 < EmoBasset> you haven't cooked enough then.
2008-03-17 06:01 < bumm13> fear is your only god on the radio
2008-03-17 06:02 < bumm13> lol at Fine Young Cannibals
2008-03-17 06:04 < EmoBasset> Heh, turns out German infatuation with Hasselhoff is just as much an urban legend as French infatuation with Jerry Lewis
2008-03-17 06:04 < toresbe> EmoBasset: I like the Weird Al parody
2008-03-17 06:04 < EmoBasset> his only well-charting song was the forth-most successful of 1989
2008-03-17 06:04 < bumm13> yay, USPTO saves the day again! \o/
2008-03-17 06:04 < NotASpy> hasn't David Piss-el-hoff had a few number ones in Gerry land ?
2008-03-17 06:05 < EmoBasset> one massive one, Looking For Freedom
2008-03-17 06:05 < EmoBasset> don't know of any further ones
2008-03-17 06:05 < toresbe> NotASpy: ..crazy finns
2008-03-17 06:05 < bumm13> I think it's funny how David Hasselhoff's singing PPV event in 1994 was "overshadowed" by the breaking news regarding O.J. Simpson
2008-03-17 06:05 < NotASpy> he did a dreadful cover of that old Chris Spedding chestnut "Jump in my car"
2008-03-17 06:05 < EmoBasset> but he holds a record for most appearances on the cover of a German youth mag
2008-03-17 06:06 < EmoBasset> in the 90s
2008-03-17 06:06 < toresbe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvPieP0mys4 is one of my favorite Eurovision tunes.
2008-03-17 06:06 * bumm13 again rejoices the awesomeness of source that is USPTO :-)
2008-03-17 06:06 < NotASpy> EmoBasset: Status Quo also holds the record for the most appearances on Top of the Pops. There's some records that keep going just for the sake of keeping going.
2008-03-17 06:07 < EmoBasset> Turns out "Crazy For You" also reached No. 1 in '90
2008-03-17 06:07 < EmoBasset> ya
2008-03-17 06:07 < NotASpy> I'd image The Hoff is firmly in that camp.
2008-03-17 06:07 < EmoBasset> (which is another atrocious song)
2008-03-17 06:08 < EmoBasset> yea, I remember an older sister of a classmate of mine being a massive fan
2008-03-17 06:08 < bumm13> heh, "The Hoff"
2008-03-17 06:08 < EmoBasset> but the only fan I've known so far
2008-03-17 06:08 < NotASpy> the Germans have never had a decent taste in music.
2008-03-17 06:08 < EmoBasset> probably cause it was before my time
2008-03-17 06:08 < EmoBasset> "the Germans"?
2008-03-17 06:08 < bumm13> NotASpy: apparently not
2008-03-17 06:09 < bumm13> yes ;)
2008-03-17 06:09 < EmoBasset> Oh well, it's true
2008-03-17 06:09 < EmoBasset> Except for me.
2008-03-17 06:09 < bumm13> aww
2008-03-17 06:09 < toresbe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfUkVh0Hh8M <- this woman actually later was the Minister of Culture in Norway
2008-03-17 06:09 < EmoBasset> Wencke Myhre?
2008-03-17 06:09 * bumm13 plans a techno festival...
2008-03-17 06:09 < NotASpy> ah well, I did forget Kraftwerk. They were German, weren't they.
2008-03-17 06:10 < bumm13> yep
2008-03-17 06:10 < EmoBasset> They were.
2008-03-17 06:10 * brown_cat wonders if he should invest in a gps controlled fork lift company
2008-03-17 06:10 < EmoBasset> I mean, here's a country that thought the Scorpions and Rammstein contributed to the furtherance of humanity.
2008-03-17 06:10 < bumm13> no surprise that one of Germany's largest contributions to popular music is electronic music :x
2008-03-17 06:11 < EmoBasset> Certainly *the* largest contribution
2008-03-17 06:11 < bumm13> yeah
2008-03-17 06:11 < NotASpy> ah, I don't mind a little of The Scorpions, actually. Rock You Like A Hurricane is a decent track.
2008-03-17 06:11 < EmoBasset> after Kraftwerk there was Paul van Dyk and others
2008-03-17 06:11 < EmoBasset> it's so cheesy.
2008-03-17 06:11 * bumm13 buys EmoBasset an Atari ST
2008-03-17 06:11 < brown_cat> bumm13: too late
2008-03-17 06:11 < brown_cat> im eating him
2008-03-17 06:11 < EmoBasset> the whole band oozes cheese
2008-03-17 06:11 < bumm13> NotASpy: that was also the zenith of Scorpions' popularity
2008-03-17 06:12 < EmoBasset> but it's because I don't like arena rock/glam borderline-metal
2008-03-17 06:12 < NotASpy> I've got one of their albums. I think it might well be their only decent track.
2008-03-17 06:12 < bumm13> 19791-1984 was their heyday
2008-03-17 06:12 < EmoBasset> Klaus Meine from Hanover
2008-03-17 06:12 < EmoBasset> :-D
2008-03-17 06:12 < bumm13> *1979
2008-03-17 06:12 < NotASpy> what about Klaus Wunderlich (sp?)
2008-03-17 06:12 * EmoBasset does like some Krautrock
2008-03-17 06:12 < EmoBasset> Amon Düül
2008-03-17 06:12 < EmoBasset> and Can and that kind of stuff
2008-03-17 06:13 < EmoBasset> Never heard of him
2008-03-17 06:13 * bumm13 NP: Scorpions - The Zoo (1980)
2008-03-17 06:13 < EmoBasset> And innellecshual music like Einstürzende Neubauten
2008-03-17 06:13 * NotASpy NP: Klaus Wunderlich - Tico Tico
2008-03-17 06:13 < EmoBasset> my sister went to the same highschool as Blixa Bargeld
2008-03-17 06:14 < EmoBasset> (who's a pal of Nick Cave and David Bowie and Iggy Pop and everyone who ever had a flat in downtown Berlin)
2008-03-17 06:15 < bumm13> I'm a fan of Michael Schenker, myself
2008-03-17 06:15 < EmoBasset> *Ton, Steine, Scherben - Schlaf bei mir
2008-03-17 06:15 < EmoBasset> (1972)
2008-03-17 06:15 < bumm13> damn good guitarist
2008-03-17 06:15 * EmoBasset likes some GDR prog
2008-03-17 06:15 < EmoBasset> bands like City
2008-03-17 06:16 < EmoBasset> I'm not sure how wide their currency outside Germany was, but it ought to be wide
2008-03-17 06:16 < bumm13> before Schenker came along, UFO was just a lackluster "space rock" band ;)
2008-03-17 06:17 < EmoBasset> he's a brilliant guitarist technically, very elegant.
2008-03-17 06:17 < EmoBasset> Pink Floyd-cum-German
2008-03-17 06:17 < NotASpy> hmm, I've got a couple of UFO tracks on an old EMI compilation box set. I think EMI must have gone through a phase of signing up every German heavy rock/glam/prog rock type band.
2008-03-17 06:17 < EmoBasset> but their music is just so cheesy and full of highschool-English and highschool lyrics
2008-03-17 06:18 < Leslie_S> the thermostats in this apartment are pissing me the hell off :(
2008-03-17 06:18 < toresbe> EmoBasset: god, no... Wenche Myhre as minister of culture
2008-03-17 06:18 < toresbe> EmoBasset: god, that's a horrifying thought
2008-03-17 06:18 < EmoBasset> she comments on Norwegian royalty events for German TV
2008-03-17 06:18 < EmoBasset> I agree.
2008-03-17 06:18 < toresbe> hehe, yeah
2008-03-17 06:18 < NotASpy> ah yes, Only You Can Rock Me - that's a decent effort.
2008-03-17 06:18 < EmoBasset> Germany had a knack in the 1960s to import bad Scandinavian teenyboppers
2008-03-17 06:19 < toresbe> at royal events the ZDF cameras tend to outnumber NRKs by at least two to one
2008-03-17 06:19 < EmoBasset> Hehe.
2008-03-17 06:19 < EmoBasset> Rolf Seelmann-Eggebert ftw
2008-03-17 06:19 < toresbe> It's quite fun, too. Norway being a small country, NRK is comparatively low-budget. (The whole television station operated for three years without a video recorder!)
2008-03-17 06:20 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-03-17 06:20 < NotASpy> that sounds like some of the old ITV stations in Britain.
2008-03-17 06:20 < toresbe> It's fun to hang around with NRK people at royal events, 'cause they're always muttering about how much better equipment ZDF has. :)
2008-03-17 06:20 < bumm13> toresbe - :o
2008-03-17 06:21 < EmoBasset> Anyway, Wencke Myhre from Norway and Gitte Haenning from Denmark, and it's just atrocious.
2008-03-17 06:21 < EmoBasset> Siw Malmkvist from Sweden.
2008-03-17 06:22 < EmoBasset> for old women who want to reintroduce monarchy in Germany
2008-03-17 06:22 < toresbe> Wenche Myhre isn't all that bad at her genre.
2008-03-17 06:22 < EmoBasset> but only the bad stuff gets bought.
2008-03-17 06:22 < toresbe> I enjoyed Wenche Myhre when I was.. 9 years or so
2008-03-17 06:22 < toresbe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZJlFIdG8R8 is great
2008-03-17 06:23 < EmoBasset> I dunno about pop singers who try to be Sinatra to save their seriousness.
2008-03-17 06:23 < EmoBasset> It worked for Bobby Darin, so yea
2008-03-17 06:23 < EmoBasset> the last guy who we sent to the ESC was riding on that inexplicable swing/big band revival