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2008-03-14 06:12 * Messedrocker troll troll troll
2008-03-14 06:12 < Mimsy> Yes I know about Florissant
2008-03-14 06:18 < NotACow> NINE FIVES UPTIME
2008-03-14 06:20 * brown_cat bites Messedrocker
2008-03-14 06:21 * Messedrocker picks up brown_cat
2008-03-14 06:21 < NotACow> KITTY MUZZLE
2008-03-14 06:22 * brown_cat eyes NotACow
2008-03-14 06:30 < Lycurgus_> hmmm, german court tv does murder cases
2008-03-14 06:33 < NotACow> Lycurgus_: why would german court tv want to murder people?
2008-03-14 06:33 < Lycurgus_> Richterin Barbara Salesch
2008-03-14 06:36 < Lycurgus_> hey how did I become Lycurgus_ I didn't add the underscore. Must be something new in freenode.
2008-03-14 07:06 < brown_cat> "Everything is extreme. Girls in Year 9 are doing oral sex with boys. "One of the winter sports teams held a wind-up party with a stripper who turned out to be a pornographic act involving vegetables." <---- god i love scotch college xD
2008-03-14 07:08 * Dissentor blinks.
2008-03-14 07:09 < brown_cat> hahahaha
2008-03-14 07:10 < brown_cat> scotch = skank / manwhore-fest
2008-03-14 07:11 < Lycurgus> methinks brown_cat evinces sour grapes
2008-03-14 07:12 < brown_cat> no, it is the skankiest school - one thing everyone I know agrees upon (even people at schools who we are enemies with :p )
2008-03-14 07:14 < Mark_Ryan> brown_cat, I got a donation from the reverend principal guy of Scotch in Prosh in first year uni... when I was dressed as a bishop.
2008-03-14 07:14 < brown_cat> rofl
2008-03-14 07:14 < brown_cat> <3 prosh sooooo much
2008-03-14 07:15 < brown_cat> the funny thing is, it is like 1000 x better (and probably as reliable) as the west xD
2008-03-14 07:16 < brown_cat> O_o
2008-03-14 07:16 < brown_cat> talking of skankfest
2008-03-14 07:18 * brown_cat waves to ShakespeareFan00 :)
2008-03-14 07:18 < brown_cat> back with your full name :o
2008-03-14 07:19 < ShakespeareFan00> Long story
2008-03-14 07:19 < ShakespeareFan00> BTW Anyone with admin pips care to de-backlog CSD I8's?
2008-03-14 07:22 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hi all!
2008-03-14 07:22 < brown_cat> oh noes
2008-03-14 07:22 * brown_cat hides
2008-03-14 07:22 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> anyone about?
2008-03-14 07:23 < Lycurgus> Ni Hao ta_bu_shi_da_yu
2008-03-14 07:23 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> ni hao Lycurgus
2008-03-14 07:23 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> so... I have exciting news
2008-03-14 07:23 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I'm a dad!!!!!
2008-03-14 07:23 * brown_cat claps
2008-03-14 07:23 * brown_cat slowly begins to slap ta_bu_shi_da_yu sully
2008-03-14 07:23 < brown_cat> *i
2008-03-14 07:23 * brown_cat throws condoms at ta_bu_shi_da_yu
2008-03-14 07:23 * arcimboldo_ congratulates
2008-03-14 07:24 < Werdna> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: ping
2008-03-14 07:24 < Werdna> ooh wow
2008-03-14 07:24 < Werdna> congratulations!
2008-03-14 07:25 < zocky> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, congrats
2008-03-14 07:26 < Dissentor> Congrats. :)
2008-03-14 07:26 * brown_cat throws confetti
2008-03-14 07:26 < arcimboldo_> a son, a daughter, twins, triplets?
2008-03-14 07:26 < Dissentor> Quadruplets?
2008-03-14 07:26 < Dissentor> Sextuplets?
2008-03-14 07:27 < brown_cat> retards?
2008-03-14 07:27 < Dissentor> Robots?
2008-03-14 07:27 * arcimboldo_ throws condoms at brown_cat's parents
2008-03-14 07:27 < Dissentor> I don't think cats know how to use condoms.
2008-03-14 07:28 * brown_cat puts a condom on his tail
2008-03-14 07:28 < Dissentor> I stand corrected.
2008-03-14 07:29 < BCMM> clear
2008-03-14 07:29 < BCMM> sorry
2008-03-14 07:29 < BCMM> mistook this for a shell
2008-03-14 07:29 < brown_cat> hmmm
2008-03-14 07:29 < brown_cat> our school gave us the worst sex ed ever
2008-03-14 07:30 < brown_cat> "hugging can lead to kissing which leads to sex which leads ot pregnancy which is why you should only hug when you are very close/engaged"
2008-03-14 07:30 < ShakespeareFan00> ROFL
2008-03-14 07:30 < brown_cat> I defy all odds - I haven't gotten anyone preggos and i hug loads of people all the tome
2008-03-14 07:30 < brown_cat> ShakespeareFan00: that was seriously pretty much what they said
2008-03-14 07:31 < ShakespeareFan00> How can you ? I thought you were feline anyway? ;)
2008-03-14 07:31 < brown_cat> hahaha
2008-03-14 07:31 < Dissentor> Looking at pictures of guns can lead to you wanting to play with guns which leads to you shooting guns which leads to people ending up dead and you in jail.
2008-03-14 07:31 < brown_cat> hahaa
2008-03-14 07:31 < Dissentor> So you should never look at pictures of guns.
2008-03-14 07:31 < Dissentor> I love your school's logic. :D
2008-03-14 07:31 < ShakespeareFan00> Walking into a chemists shop makes you think about drugs, which leads to you taking them ....
2008-03-14 07:31 < brown_cat> i love the way the dud's ask "so, if someone has given you head, should you get tested to std's? *hears pin drip* "yes, definately"..... "oh"
2008-03-14 07:32 < brown_cat> ShakespeareFan00: that;s what happens to me
2008-03-14 07:32 < Dissentor> Hahahaha.
2008-03-14 07:32 < ShakespeareFan00> So you should disturst chemists shops... and drugstores...
2008-03-14 07:32 < brown_cat> night time medicine makes my days go faster :)
2008-03-14 07:32 < ShakespeareFan00> brown_cat: Well STD can be transmitted orally.
2008-03-14 07:32 < Werdna> silly ta_bu_shi_da_yu, has taken off
2008-03-14 07:32 < ShakespeareFan00> I think Wikipedia has an article on such things
2008-03-14 07:33 < brown_cat> ShakespeareFan00: i know a lot about that area :)
2008-03-14 07:33 * brown_cat has actually studied it a load :p
2008-03-14 07:35 < ShakespeareFan00> and on hugging there seems to multiple standards
2008-03-14 07:35 < brown_cat> DO NOT USE PUBLIC TOILETS -YOU WILL GET HHHERRRRPEEES!!!!!
2008-03-14 07:35 < ShakespeareFan00> ROFL ROFL
2008-03-14 07:35 < ShakespeareFan00> Cold sores?
2008-03-14 07:36 < brown_cat> you kiss toilet seats?
2008-03-14 07:36 < ShakespeareFan00> brown_cat: I forgot the smiley...
2008-03-14 07:37 < brown_cat> hahaha
2008-03-14 07:37 < ShakespeareFan00> According to [[Herpes Simplex]] Oral and STD herpes are different but related strains
2008-03-14 07:38 * brown_cat gives ShakespeareFan00 stdoip
2008-03-14 07:38 * brown_cat has 60 boxes of oj next to him - the power of walking off with things ;)
2008-03-14 07:38 < ShakespeareFan00> next to him?
2008-03-14 07:39 < ShakespeareFan00> In a previous conversation it was implied otherwise?
2008-03-14 07:39 < brown_cat> no, i currently do
2008-03-14 07:39 < brown_cat> brown cat has 30 boxes of oj next to him
2008-03-14 07:39 < ShakespeareFan00> I was reffering to the male pronoun use
2008-03-14 07:39 < brown_cat> are you implying i am not a guy O_O
2008-03-14 07:40 < ShakespeareFan00> Well you said something along those lines a while back... but given it's you ;)
2008-03-14 07:40 < brown_cat> i also said i was preggos
2008-03-14 07:41 < brown_cat> sfan00: you have to see the last page of my assignment :DD I am soo prooud of it :p it got the top of the class xD
2008-03-14 07:41 < ShakespeareFan00> Please remember IRC never forgets
2008-03-14 07:41 < ShakespeareFan00> brown_cat; which assignment is this?
2008-03-14 07:41 < brown_cat> a computing one where we had to interview a company about their use of ict
2008-03-14 07:42 < ShakespeareFan00> Oh right
2008-03-14 07:42 < Werdna> shower/bed time
2008-03-14 07:42 < Werdna> nn
2008-03-14 07:42 < ShakespeareFan00> hi Werdna
2008-03-14 07:42 < Gambit> O_O
2008-03-14 07:42 < Gambit> hey andrew :)
2008-03-14 07:45 < brown_cat> ShakespeareFan00: part of the assessment was to complete a timeline of what i did/what i planned to do - see my last page http://pastebin.ca/942298
2008-03-14 07:46 < ShakespeareFan00> ;)
2008-03-14 07:47 < brown_cat> that seriously was my last page
2008-03-14 07:47 < brown_cat> and i got top of the class xD i am sooo happy hahaha
2008-03-14 07:51 < brown_cat> ShakespeareFan00: you like? :p
2008-03-14 07:52 < ShakespeareFan00> ROFL
2008-03-14 07:52 < brown_cat> hehee
2008-03-14 07:53 < Kamping_Kaiser> hey all
2008-03-14 07:54 * brown_cat snuggles JessicaTaylor
2008-03-14 07:54 * brown_cat cuddles Kamping_Kaiser
2008-03-14 07:55 < Kamping_Kaiser> aww
2008-03-14 07:55 * JessicaTaylor snuggles brown_cat
2008-03-14 07:55 * Kamping_Kaiser huggles brown_cat
2008-03-14 08:19 < TheWeasel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pueblo%2C_Colorado
2008-03-14 08:19 < TheWeasel> bleh, bloated introductions
2008-03-14 08:20 < arcimboldo_> Reminds me of that Quayle quote from Hawaii somehow.
2008-03-14 08:23 < brown_cat> what;s a random washington postcode?
2008-03-14 08:25 < arcimboldo_> ???
2008-03-14 08:26 < arcimboldo_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFggCQv4J4
2008-03-14 08:27 < brown_cat> i need a random washington zip code sorry
2008-03-14 08:27 < Dissentor> Washington state or Washington DC?
2008-03-14 08:27 < brown_cat> state
2008-03-14 08:28 < arcimboldo_> Who do you want to cheat?
2008-03-14 08:28 < Dissentor> 98273
2008-03-14 08:28 < brown_cat> thanks ;)
2008-03-14 08:28 < brown_cat> aol
2008-03-14 08:28 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-14 08:29 < NotACow> DEATH TO AOL
2008-03-14 08:30 < brown_cat> http://memorabilia.hardrock.com/ <--- I am seriously genuinely impressed by this
2008-03-14 08:31 < brown_cat> Dissentor: and a random wa. ph number?
2008-03-14 08:32 < Dissentor> Residential or commercial?
2008-03-14 08:33 < brown_cat> Dissentor: residential :)
2008-03-14 08:35 < Dissentor> (360) 332-9623
2008-03-14 08:35 < brown_cat> cheers :D
2008-03-14 08:35 * brown_cat calls ;)
2008-03-14 08:35 < Dissentor> Flip AOL the bird for me. :)
2008-03-14 08:35 < brown_cat> hahaha
2008-03-14 08:35 < brown_cat> ill eat it ;)
2008-03-14 08:35 < Dissentor> :)
2008-03-14 08:42 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-14 08:53 < AAA^> !admin
2008-03-14 08:53 < AAA^> please delete this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Bengley
2008-03-14 08:53 < AAA^> the image in there
2008-03-14 08:53 < caseypj> lol
2008-03-14 08:54 < arcimboldo_> who is that friendly looking guy?
2008-03-14 08:55 < AAA^> i'm not even looking
2008-03-14 08:55 < arcimboldo_> what's your concern?
2008-03-14 08:55 * Kamping_Kaiser doesnt get it
2008-03-14 08:56 < AAA^> that image is being used for vandalism
2008-03-14 08:56 < mavhc> brilliant: "all 19 year olds are idiots".[citation needed]
2008-03-14 08:56 < AAA^> and although i haven't seen the image, i'm guessing it's a shock image
2008-03-14 08:56 < Kamping_Kaiser> mavhc, *grin*
2008-03-14 08:56 < Kamping_Kaiser> AAA^, you'd guess wrong
2008-03-14 08:57 * arcimboldo_ is completely shocked by that image ...
2008-03-14 08:57 < Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
2008-03-14 08:57 < AAA^> i'm still not looking
2008-03-14 08:57 < AAA^> either way, it's being used for vandalism
2008-03-14 08:57 * caseypj is scarred for life
2008-03-14 08:57 < AAA^> brown_cat! \o/
2008-03-14 08:58 * brown_cat facehuggles AAA^
2008-03-14 08:59 < AAA^> \o/
2008-03-14 08:59 < brown_cat> ShakespeareFan00: lmao @ loopaustralia.com/DSC103556_compress.jpg
2008-03-14 08:59 < ShakespeareFan00> brown_cat: Busy on OSM
2008-03-14 08:59 < ShakespeareFan00> OpenStreetMap
2008-03-14 08:59 < brown_cat> halloween = old people thinking hookers are on their front door
2008-03-14 09:00 < brown_cat> xD
2008-03-14 09:04 < Mark_Ryan> I can't believe they're bringing Gladiators back
2008-03-14 09:04 < Mark_Ryan> how lame.
2008-03-14 09:07 < AAA^> can anyone tell me what this image is? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Bengley
2008-03-14 09:09 < arcimboldo_> Aaaaaah!
2008-03-14 09:09 < Mark_Ryan> it's a photo of a man, possibly animated, but it doesn't seem like it
2008-03-14 09:10 < arcimboldo_> is that Frankenstein's monster?
2008-03-14 09:11 < arcimboldo_> don't look at it, it will be the shock of your life.
2008-03-14 09:43 < NotACow> hm
2008-03-14 09:43 < NotACow> http://www.blacktriangle.org/blog/?p=1739
2008-03-14 09:43 < NotACow> 50 people in india blinded while trying to find the image of the virgin mary in the sun
2008-03-14 09:44 < snowolf> ahaahaha
2008-03-14 09:45 < NotACow> religion is a dangerous thing
2008-03-14 09:45 < snowolf> indeed
2008-03-14 09:45 < cimon> NotACow, yes, religion can make you lose your atheism...
2008-03-14 09:45 < Kamping_Kaiser> rofl
2008-03-14 09:47 < cimon> though I have to question the responsibility of religion for those blinded, I mean you have to be pretty daft to be searching for the virgin mary in the sun, when everybody knows she hangs about in Lourdes.
2008-03-14 10:10 < mexicanbanana> Film critic Andrew Sarris noted in his review of "Time Enough at Last" that, at the time The Twilight Zone was produced, depicting an atom bomb explosion or its aftermath on network television would likely have been prohibited if it had been "couched in a more realistic format". <-- Can somebody please explain to me what this means? Why would it be prohibited to show?
2008-03-14 10:17 < mexicanbanana> Hellö?
2008-03-14 10:18 < cimon> mexicanbanana, Likely due to what happened with that Orson Welles radio play.
2008-03-14 10:18 < cimon> the H.G.Wells thing
2008-03-14 10:18 < mexicanbanana> You mean the classic thing when people thought that it was real?
2008-03-14 10:18 < mexicanbanana> That actually happened?
2008-03-14 10:18 < cimon> yup
2008-03-14 10:18 < mexicanbanana> Wasn't that like 1920s?
2008-03-14 10:18 < mexicanbanana> People should've got used to TV/radio in 40 years...
2008-03-14 10:18 < cimon> well, if you tune on to the television at random...
2008-03-14 10:19 < cimon> and get in there in the midst of the programming.
2008-03-14 10:19 < mexicanbanana> Hehe...
2008-03-14 10:19 < mexicanbanana> Kaboom!
2008-03-14 10:19 < mexicanbanana> Imagine what a relief when you look out of the window.
2008-03-14 10:19 < mexicanbanana> Oldschool TV seemed much funnier. :(
2008-03-14 10:20 < mexicanbanana> I wish I could have a whole week's worth of programming from USA in the 1950s or something.
2008-03-14 10:20 < mexicanbanana> And just watch it.
2008-03-14 10:20 < mexicanbanana> With all the ads and live shows and stuff.
2008-03-14 10:20 < mexicanbanana> Live stuff is much more exciting.
2008-03-14 10:20 < mexicanbanana> Don't they have any such records?
2008-03-14 10:20 < mexicanbanana> In my mind, I imagine that every TV channel ever existed has complete archives of everything they ever broadcasted.
2008-03-14 10:21 < ShakespeareFan00> NO
2008-03-14 10:21 < ShakespeareFan00> Sadly not
2008-03-14 10:21 < mexicanbanana> Just watching local 1990s TV would be awesome to me.
2008-03-14 10:21 < Demi> it's probably more that it would seem to by sympathetic to the enemy (communism) to show that there might be something wrong with american massive nuclear armament buildup
2008-03-14 10:22 < mexicanbanana> Demi: Several/most episodes of TTZ have massive criticism towards the USA.
2008-03-14 10:22 < ShakespeareFan00> Demi: Well we can't have the buggers brodcasting communisum can we? ;)
2008-03-14 10:22 < mexicanbanana> Well, they never actually say "USA" but it's obvious that it's what it is.
2008-03-14 10:22 < Demi> in the 50s the general attitude was that atoms were pretty awesome, america was awesome, and won't it be neat to eat your TV dinners in your barcalounger down in the fallout shelter.
2008-03-14 10:22 < Demi> that's because rod serling was a communist
2008-03-14 10:22 < mexicanbanana> They always say "mankind" when they mean Americans and "the world" when they mean USA :-)
2008-03-14 10:22 < mexicanbanana> But I like Rod Serling.
2008-03-14 10:22 < Demi> me too
2008-03-14 10:23 < mexicanbanana> Hehe... fallout shelters...
2008-03-14 10:23 < ShakespeareFan00> Doing 'political' scripts as sci-fi is also part of the reason trek came to be
2008-03-14 10:23 < mexicanbanana> Would they withstand an actual atomic bomb?
2008-03-14 10:23 < ShakespeareFan00> Unlikley
2008-03-14 10:23 < ShakespeareFan00> not directly
2008-03-14 10:23 < Demi> well, they're for the fallout
2008-03-14 10:23 < Demi> thus "fallout shelter"
2008-03-14 10:23 < ShakespeareFan00> Also most fallout shelters would not have worked...
2008-03-14 10:23 < mexicanbanana> The Flanders' shelter didn't even withstand a tiny rock.
2008-03-14 10:24 < ShakespeareFan00> A lot of the myth about fallout shelters would good old fashioned snake oil
2008-03-14 10:24 < mexicanbanana> I only have about 20 episodes left to watch ot TTZ. It's been a wild ride. I am prepared to divide my life into "pre" and "post" TTZ soon.
2008-03-14 10:24 < Demi> i remember the signs
2008-03-14 10:24 < mexicanbanana> Snake oil?
2008-03-14 10:24 < Pilotguy> fallot shelter?
2008-03-14 10:24 < Demi> and duck and cover drills
2008-03-14 10:24 < ShakespeareFan00> [[snake oil]]
2008-03-14 10:24 < Pilotguy> who needs a fallout shelter?
2008-03-14 10:25 < ShakespeareFan00> Demi: Post 9/11 there was a spate of gas mask sellers in London
2008-03-14 10:25 < Demi> fallout shelters are so cold war, the new hotness is panic rooms
2008-03-14 10:25 < Demi> ShakespeareFan00 - yeah, we just use plastic sheeting and duct tape!
2008-03-14 10:25 < ShakespeareFan00> Not that the respirators sold were any good
2008-03-14 10:26 < zvook> there was a rather famous british teleplay about the bomb ... blanking about it though
2008-03-14 10:26 < ShakespeareFan00> zvook: You mean [[The War Game]]
2008-03-14 10:26 < ShakespeareFan00> ?
2008-03-14 10:26 < ShakespeareFan00> Which was produced in 1964 and banned for many year
2008-03-14 10:26 < ShakespeareFan00> The other one was [[threads]]
2008-03-14 10:26 < zvook> i dunno, i'll tell you when my browser unfreezes :)
2008-03-14 10:26 < Demi> i saw threads
2008-03-14 10:27 < mexicanbanana> "Duck and Cover was a suggested method of personal protection against the effects of a nuclear detonation which the United States government taught to generations of United States school children from the late 1940s into the 1980s. This was supposed to protect them in the event of an unexpected nuclear attack which, they were told, could come at any time without warning. Immediately after they saw a flash they had to stop what they w
2008-03-14 10:27 < mexicanbanana> and get on the ground under some cover—such as a table, or at least next to a wall—and assume the fetal position, lying face-down and covering their heads with their hands."
2008-03-14 10:27 < mexicanbanana> That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
2008-03-14 10:27 < ShakespeareFan00> Yeah well...
2008-03-14 10:27 < mexicanbanana> So the early South Park episode wasn't really that extreme...
2008-03-14 10:27 < Demi> it's not the most retarded
2008-03-14 10:27 < Demi> the idea is that the shock wave will break windows and stuff
2008-03-14 10:27 < ShakespeareFan00> You should have seen some of Jasper Carrot's early material about the UK's "Protect and Survive"
2008-03-14 10:27 < ShakespeareFan00> ;)
2008-03-14 10:28 < mexicanbanana> It seems pretty obvious that you would duck and cover out of desperation, but actually suggesting this as a "cure"...
2008-03-14 10:28 < ShakespeareFan00> Duck and Cover MIGHT have aleviated some injuries against lo-yield devices in the periprhy of thier blast
2008-03-14 10:28 < Demi> there was a "war of the worlds" style fake news program put on in the u.s. in the 80s, about terrorists (or someone) holding a city hostage with a small nuclear bomb (which went off)
2008-03-14 10:29 < ShakespeareFan00> but by around 1956 the development of Massive Hydrogen megaton devices rendered Duck and Cover moot
2008-03-14 10:30 < mexicanbanana> I have come to understand that it seems to be the way the USA government works. They want their people to live in constant fears, be it from them evil communists and their a-bombs or the terrorists.
2008-03-14 10:30 < Demi> well, any blast has a series of zones around it. if you're outside of the shock wave, then ducking and covering is harmless, so why not? if you're in just the right zone, you can save yourself from some of debris flying around, so it makes sense; and if you're closer in, it gives you something to do while you wait to die.
2008-03-14 10:30 < Demi> that's not unique to the u.s. government, but yes
2008-03-14 10:30 < Demi> don't forget illegal immigrants and gays
2008-03-14 10:30 < ShakespeareFan00> "Welcome to Ocenia, Ocenia has alwyas been at war with Eurasia^H^H^H^H Islamia..."
2008-03-14 10:32 < ShakespeareFan00> Demi: And 'liberals' ;)
2008-03-14 10:32 * Demi is a tax and spend democrat who wants to outlaw the bible
2008-03-14 10:32 < Demi> bbl
2008-03-14 10:41 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-14 10:52 < Ceiling_Cat> too quiet in here
2008-03-14 10:52 < The359> needs moar loud cat?
2008-03-14 10:52 < Ceiling_Cat> clearly
2008-03-14 10:52 < arcimboldo_> is "targeting" or "targetting" correct?
2008-03-14 10:52 < The359> first
2008-03-14 10:53 < arcimboldo_> just asking because CNN writes "targetting"
2008-03-14 10:53 < The359> they do?
2008-03-14 10:53 < arcimboldo_> and an English colleague at work wrote the same in an email today, so I lost confidence.
2008-03-14 10:53 < arcimboldo_> http://edition.cnn.com/
2008-03-14 10:53 < arcimboldo_> "The protests -- initiated by Buddhist monks -- appear to be targetting Han Chinese, sources say"
2008-03-14 10:54 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/target
2008-03-14 10:54 < Ceiling_Cat> t, not tt
2008-03-14 10:54 < arcimboldo_> good, so I'm relieved
2008-03-14 10:54 < The359> Wikitionary agrees
2008-03-14 10:56 < quanticle> aricimboldo_: I think its targeting
2008-03-14 10:57 < quanticle> arcimboldo_: Let me check the OED
2008-03-14 10:57 < arcimboldo_> quanticle: I'm now pretty convinced.
2008-03-14 10:58 < quanticle> arcimboldo_: Yeah, its targeting. OED says so, it must be true
2008-03-14 10:59 < arcimboldo_> good ... I'm glad my English is better than CNN's.
2008-03-14 11:01 * Ceiling_Cat huggles arcimboldo_
2008-03-14 11:02 < Mole2> Hi everyone. I need English grammar advice: Is it "We handle line breaks on Wikipedia" or "at Wikipedia" or "in Wikipedia"?
2008-03-14 11:03 < The359> any and all
2008-03-14 11:03 < Ceiling_Cat> agreed
2008-03-14 11:03 < Ceiling_Cat> a website can take most any proposition
2008-03-14 11:03 < Ceiling_Cat> preposition
2008-03-14 11:03 < Mole2> Really? Ok, so then I don't need to worry. I and others have used different on/at/in at different places.
2008-03-14 11:03 < snowolf> I'd use "on" anyway
2008-03-14 11:03 < The359> well
2008-03-14 11:03 < Mole2> Oh, so "on" sounds better?
2008-03-14 11:04 < Ceiling_Cat> you should be consistent
2008-03-14 11:04 < The359> you should use the same one throughout an article
2008-03-14 11:04 < The359> not vary it
2008-03-14 11:04 < Mole2> Note, I am not a native English speaker.
2008-03-14 11:04 < Mole2> Right.
2008-03-14 11:04 < Mole2> In this case it is for the "see also" links to a page I made.
2008-03-14 11:05 < Mole2> We used different on/at/in at different pages when linking to my new Wikipedia how-to page page.
2008-03-14 11:05 < Mole2> But seems I am ok then. Thanks everyone.
2008-03-14 11:07 < Mole2> By the way, this is the the new how-to page we made (if anyone wonders): [[Wikipedia:Line break handling]]
2008-03-14 11:18 < [Michelangelo]> Hi to all the community
2008-03-14 11:18 < Ceiling_Cat> Hello Michael_B
2008-03-14 11:18 < quanticle> Hello [Michelangelo]
2008-03-14 11:18 < Ceiling_Cat> erm
2008-03-14 11:18 < Ceiling_Cat> [Michelangelo]
2008-03-14 11:19 < [Michelangelo]> how can I publish an article on the Spanish version of Wikipedia
2008-03-14 11:19 < [Michelangelo]> ?
2008-03-14 11:19 < quanticle> [Michelangelo]: es.wikipedia.org
2008-03-14 11:19 < [Michelangelo]> yes
2008-03-14 11:19 < quanticle> Yeah. Go there and write your article...
2008-03-14 11:21 < [Michelangelo]> I have already registered but the other users delete my translation of a part of the article written in another language
2008-03-14 11:22 < [Michelangelo]> I'm going crazy sbout it
2008-03-14 11:22 < [Michelangelo]> maybe somebody can help me
2008-03-14 11:23 < [Michelangelo]> I suppose that my asking for help here is right, isn't it?
2008-03-14 11:25 < quanticle> [Michelangelo]: Where are you posting the article?
2008-03-14 11:25 < [Michelangelo]> here: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curriculum_vitae#Europass_y_EuroCv
2008-03-14 11:27 < Mole2> [Michelangelo]: You could also discuss the matter at #wikipedia-es on this IRC network.
2008-03-14 11:27 < [Michelangelo]> in the English section there are more information about the Europass Curriculum and the EuroCv project
2008-03-14 11:27 < [Michelangelo]> ah ok
2008-03-14 11:36 < Paulius> omg. freenode has everything
2008-03-14 11:36 < quanticle> Paulius: Huh? What do you mean?
2008-03-14 11:37 < Paulius> quanticle: Freenode has channels about all sorts of things, from electronics to automotive to Linux to Mac. I was surprised to find Wikipedia on here.
2008-03-14 11:37 < Cyrius> we had to be somewhere
2008-03-14 11:37 < Paulius> Let's say there are two similar articles about products from the same company. One page is for a successor for the old product...
2008-03-14 11:38 < Paulius> The new page has a comparison table which doesn't have all the details to describe the product. Would be it be good practice to copy the table from the other page and fill in with new data on the successor page?
2008-03-14 11:39 < Cyrius> I'd think not
2008-03-14 11:39 < Paulius> okay.
2008-03-14 11:40 < Cyrius> if I'm understanding your question correctly
2008-03-14 11:40 < Paulius> Cyrius: Okay fine, I'll give you real-world examples.
2008-03-14 11:40 < Paulius> Cisco firewall platforms.
2008-03-14 11:40 < Paulius> Their old version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_PIX#Current_models
2008-03-14 11:40 < Paulius> And the new one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_ASA_5500_Series_Adaptive_Security_Appliances
2008-03-14 11:40 < Paulius> Notice how the new table doesn't even mention the throughput speed and omits certain details.
2008-03-14 11:41 < Cyrius> if you want to add more rows, that's fine
2008-03-14 11:41 < Paulius> Wouldn't it make more sense to standardize and use the table from the old version?
2008-03-14 11:41 < Cyrius> I thought you meant copying the data in the table, which doesn't make sense
2008-03-14 11:41 < Cyrius> standardization is overrated =)
2008-03-14 11:41 < Paulius> I meant the rows and columns
2008-03-14 11:42 < Paulius> Then repopulating with the new info.
2008-03-14 11:42 < Cyrius> if you want to add more information, go ahead
2008-03-14 11:42 < Paulius> So that people coming from the old article would already know where to find certain pieces...
2008-03-14 11:42 < Paulius> that's not what I asked, whatever.
2008-03-14 11:42 < Cyrius> ...what?
2008-03-14 11:42 < Cyrius> you're assuming a level of experience with a single wikipedia table that is unlikely to exist
2008-03-14 11:43 < Cyrius> standardizing the tables is of limited value
2008-03-14 11:43 < Cyrius> adding more information to the less thorough table is of more value
2008-03-14 11:44 < Cyrius> there's nothing wrong with following the layout of the existing table when adding more information
2008-03-14 11:45 < Demi> "Sperm for Tickets", huh?
2008-03-14 11:45 < Cyrius> the only other way I can interpret your words doesn't make sense
2008-03-14 11:46 < Cyrius> so if you want a better answer, you're going to have to try different questions
2008-03-14 11:46 < Phoenix-wiki> "...I'm sorry to say that,
2008-03-14 11:46 < Phoenix-wiki> owing to their misreading of the Bible,
2008-03-14 11:46 < Phoenix-wiki> thousands of people still believe...
2008-03-14 11:46 < Cyrius> just saying "whatever" isn't going to get you anywhere
2008-03-14 11:46 < Phoenix-wiki> the world was created around 4000 BC."
2008-03-14 11:46 < Paulius> I understand...
2008-03-14 11:46 < Phoenix-wiki> - Arthur C. Clark
2008-03-14 11:46 < Paulius> So does Jimmy Wales ever come around here?
2008-03-14 11:46 < Cyrius> not lately
2008-03-14 11:46 < Paulius> awww
2008-03-14 11:46 < Cyrius> and he's not going to answer your question =)
2008-03-14 11:47 < Paulius> Busy eating thoudsand-dollar steak dinners?
2008-03-14 11:47 < Cyrius> don't try to make jokes about that stuff, they're not funny and you're liable to be labelled a troll
2008-03-14 11:48 < Cyrius> had a bunch of them coming in here lately with that subject
2008-03-14 11:48 < Paulius> Ah, so the rumors are true.
2008-03-14 11:48 < Mole2> Paulius: Well, if you think the table in the old page looks better then of course you should copy that table layout to the new page and move the new data over to that table format.
2008-03-14 11:48 < Demi> we already had joke day
2008-03-14 11:48 < Paulius> Mole2: See, that's what I wanted to know.
2008-03-14 11:48 < Paulius> But I wanted to know if something like that should be posted in the discussions page, and yada yada
2008-03-14 11:48 < Cyrius> Paulius: "the rumors" is incredibly vague
2008-03-14 11:48 < Mole2> Paulius: Doing improvements to articles are part of the work we do at Wikipedia. Be bold! :)
2008-03-14 11:49 < Mole2> Paulius: Nah, if it is a normal article and you think your change is uncontroversial there is normally no need to discuss it first. Just do it.
2008-03-14 11:49 < Demi> i heard a rumor that terry gilliam has wanted to direct a harry potter movie, but they are sticking with that david yates guy instead.
2008-03-14 11:49 < Paulius> I see.
2008-03-14 11:49 < Cyrius> Demi: i herd u liek mudkips
2008-03-14 11:49 < scorchsaber_> Cyrius: i herd mudkips liek u
2008-03-14 11:49 < nailbiter> Hello. Could I request help from an admin about a 3RR?
2008-03-14 11:50 < Mole2> Paulius: Editing articles pretty much works like this: Do any change you think is good without asking at the talk page. But if people revert you then discuss it at the talk page.
2008-03-14 11:50 < Paulius> Ah I see.
2008-03-14 11:50 < Paulius> okay, thanks.
2008-03-14 11:50 < Mole2> Of course, when in some doubt first check the talk page to see if it has already been discussed.
2008-03-14 11:51 < Paulius> The article that I'm talking about is stub-ish and there's not a single entry in the discussions
2008-03-14 11:51 < quanticle> Paulius: Then go ahead and do it.
2008-03-14 11:51 < Cyrius> nailbiter: you'd have to specify an article
2008-03-14 11:51 < Mole2> Paulius: Then I'd say it is a clear case of "just do it". :))
2008-03-14 11:51 < quanticle> Paulius: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BOLD
2008-03-14 11:51 < nailbiter> Cyrius: It's [[pro-ana]] and [[pro-mia]]. I'm the anonymous IP in an edit war with someone
2008-03-14 11:51 < Cyrius> ugh
2008-03-14 11:52 < Demi> remember to put somewhere in the article that Pixes suck
2008-03-14 11:52 < Demi> and their throughput numbers are a lie
2008-03-14 11:52 < Paulius> Demi: Done AND done.
2008-03-14 11:52 < Paulius> Meh, the PIX are stupid. ASA to a point aswell.
2008-03-14 11:52 * Mole2 goes back to staring at his watchlist.
2008-03-14 11:52 < Paulius> They're simply underpowere x86 boxes. Iptables can do 90% of what the PIX people use their PIXes for.
2008-03-14 11:53 < Demi> at companies i've worked for, i've had a lot of network administrators of the "build an architecture by pointing to pages in the cisco catalog" stripe
2008-03-14 11:53 < Paulius> Now, the reason to care about them is because the corporations go "Oh, this one costs 6K in software compared to $0... The more expensive one MUST be better"
2008-03-14 11:56 < Demi> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/32945 <- that's pretty funny
2008-03-14 11:58 < Paulius> I agree.
2008-03-14 11:58 < Cyrius> nailbiter: I gave him a warning, if it continues, try [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR]]
2008-03-14 12:02 < snowolf> good evening J_Milburn
2008-03-14 12:02 < J_Milburn> Evening snowolf, how are things?
2008-03-14 12:02 < nailbiter> Cyrius: Thanks
2008-03-14 12:02 < snowolf> everything's fine here, with you?
2008-03-14 12:03 < nailbiter> nailbiter: Hmm, I think you warned the wrong guy. :) I'm the anonymous IP. Castilan is the guy I'm warring with, and he's over 3RR
2008-03-14 12:03 < nailbiter> Cyrius: ^^
2008-03-14 12:03 < karlp> i have a question about freebsd
2008-03-14 12:03 * nailbiter has spastic fingers tonight
2008-03-14 12:04 < Cyrius> nailbiter: you look like you're in the wrong to me =O
2008-03-14 12:04 < nailbiter> Cyrius: I'm reverting him because what he's added to both articles is linkspam
2008-03-14 12:05 < Cyrius> I don't see a 3RR violation by castilan
2008-03-14 12:05 < karlp> you know how in windows you can use diskpart and then extend to extend the size of the disk etc
2008-03-14 12:05 < Cyrius> I see one by 80.237.187.34
2008-03-14 12:05 < karlp> what is the easiest way to do this with freebsd?
2008-03-14 12:06 < Demi> you might have better luck in #freebsd
2008-03-14 12:06 < karlp> You need to be identified to join that channel
2008-03-14 12:07 < nailbiter> Cyrius: Actually, oops. We're both on our 3rd edit
2008-03-14 12:07 < Cyrius> nailbiter: you're on 4
2008-03-14 12:07 < J_Milburn> snwolf: Getting a lot of on-Wiki abuse, but everything in the real world is great :)
2008-03-14 12:08 < Cyrius> 00:01, 03:26, 15:14, 15:32
2008-03-14 12:08 < nailbiter> Cyrius: Ah, so 3RR is counted from UTC time?
2008-03-14 12:09 * The359 can't tell what he hates more. Furries or pro-anorexia people
2008-03-14 12:09 < Cyrius> no, it's counted within a 24 hour time period
2008-03-14 12:09 < karlp> i have tried to get into fdisk
2008-03-14 12:09 < karlp> but it just prints me some information
2008-03-14 12:09 < karlp> instead of bringing me into it
2008-03-14 12:09 < karlp> so confusing
2008-03-14 12:09 < Cyrius> furries are just weird, pro-ana is dangerous
2008-03-14 12:10 < nailbiter> Cyrius: I see. Mea culpa :-/ I guess I should go cool off
2008-03-14 12:10 < The359> They're both "what the fuck is going on in your head?"
2008-03-14 12:10 < Cyrius> nailbiter: I was slightly biased because I somehow missed all the other changes, and thought you were calling that journal cite a "commercial link"
2008-03-14 12:11 < karlp> no one here uses linux?
2008-03-14 12:11 < Cyrius> not me
2008-03-14 12:11 < Demi> karlp - if anyone is interested in your question, they will answer without you bugging everyone about it
2008-03-14 12:11 < Cyrius> The359: if you want pro-ana style insanity in furry form, you need to step up to [[otherkin]]
2008-03-14 12:11 < Demi> in the meantime, try #freebsd
2008-03-14 12:12 < Cyrius> people who actually believe they are...whatever
2008-03-14 12:12 < Cyrius> rather than merely wishing they were/being interested in/being attracted to
2008-03-14 12:12 < karlp> i have told you
2008-03-14 12:12 < karlp> it will not let me enter
2008-03-14 12:12 < Demi> karlp - no, you said it required you to be identified; so do that
2008-03-14 12:13 < karlp> this nick is not even mine
2008-03-14 12:13 < Demi> "go to the train station" "but that requires going through a turnstile" "...?"
2008-03-14 12:13 < karlp> registered already apparently
2008-03-14 12:13 < Demi> there's nothing i can say to that except make this motion with my arms
2008-03-14 12:13 < Demi> which unfortunately you can't see
2008-03-14 12:13 < gwern> these FF3 betas are impressing me. they're handling opening hundreds of WP tabs much better than the FF2s did
2008-03-14 12:13 < karlp> what motion fool
2008-03-14 12:13 < karlp> this is irc not webcam chat
2008-03-14 12:14 < ShakespeareFan00> ERM any admins in
2008-03-14 12:15 < ShakespeareFan00> I need to possibly know the procedure for gaining a bot flag
2008-03-14 12:15 < Demi> ShakespeareFan00 - [[WP:BAG]] i think
2008-03-14 12:15 < Cyrius> [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval]]
2008-03-14 12:15 < Demi> oh, wait, i'm not an admin
2008-03-14 12:16 < Demi> so forget i helped you, ShakespeareFan00
2008-03-14 12:16 * Cyrius gives demi a cookie.
2008-03-14 12:16 < ShakespeareFan00> OK It's that I am doing a lot of 'manual' edits
2008-03-14 12:16 * Cyrius is amused by http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Otherkin&oldid=194228232
2008-03-14 12:16 < ShakespeareFan00> and might need a protective bot flag given the sheer amount od material I generate at times
2008-03-14 12:16 < ShakespeareFan00> mainly on commons image moving at present
2008-03-14 12:16 < Demi> that pro-ana thing is something i didn't know about and honestly never occurred to me
2008-03-14 12:17 < Cyrius> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Otherkin&oldid=174146255
2008-03-14 12:17 < Cyrius> demi: and now you know...sorry
2008-03-14 12:33 * Qst is away: I'm sorry, but I'm away
2008-03-14 12:41 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-03-14 12:58 < Mr_Gustafson> ahoy. the Signpost says that there will be a decision on Wikimania 2009 after the 13th. Has a decision been made?
2008-03-14 13:01 * Cyrius shrugs
2008-03-14 13:03 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-03-14 13:03 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-14 13:05 < uberpenguin> Mike_H: you needed something this morning?
2008-03-14 13:25 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-14 13:42 < NotACow> NERP!
2008-03-14 13:42 < NotACow> NERP NERP NERP
2008-03-14 13:44 < uberpenguin> qua
2008-03-14 13:49 < mexicanbanana> What was the downside of using Second Life again? Was it entirely free?
2008-03-14 13:49 < The359> it's lame
2008-03-14 13:50 < Mbimmler> first life proved to be more interesting
2008-03-14 13:51 < mexicanbanana> I just tried signing up and it wouldn't let me. Buggy registration form = one less user.
2008-03-14 13:53 < ShakespeareFan00> mexicanbanna: People lable you
2008-03-14 13:53 < ShakespeareFan00> You have a life in the real world don't you?
2008-03-14 13:54 < mexicanbanana> No, I don't.
2008-03-14 13:54 < mexicanbanana> Also, it seems to require you to pick a pre-existing last name. That's lame.
2008-03-14 13:54 < mexicanbanana> In fact, having to pick a username at all is lame.
2008-03-14 13:58 < ShakespeareFan00> Anon is not recomended on Second Life
2008-03-14 13:58 < ShakespeareFan00> You get all sorts of crazy people
2008-03-14 13:59 < mexicanbanana> Huh?
2008-03-14 13:59 < ShakespeareFan00> If you are honest you won't get the wrong sort of attention
2008-03-14 14:00 < mexicanbanana> What do you mean?
2008-03-14 14:00 < mexicanbanana> I have no idea what you are talking about.
2008-03-14 14:01 < The359> They don't like secretive people
2008-03-14 14:01 < ShakespeareFan00> The359: Kind of like Wikipedia?
2008-03-14 14:01 < ShakespeareFan00> ;)
2008-03-14 14:01 < The359> they'll cut you up for it
2008-03-14 14:06 < mexicanbanana> Do they celebrate Eastern in the USA?
2008-03-14 14:06 < mexicanbanana> With kids dressing up like witches and begging for candy?
2008-03-14 14:06 < mexicanbanana> No, I don't mean Halloween.
2008-03-14 14:12 < mexicanbanana> Hello?
2008-03-14 14:12 < uberpenguin> guten tag
2008-03-14 14:13 < mexicanbanana> Can you answer?
2008-03-14 14:13 < Golbfoo> mexicanbanana- not really. we have easter egg hunts, but no dressing in costumes
2008-03-14 14:13 < mexicanbanana> I see.
2008-03-14 14:14 < mexicanbanana> They do both here :(
2008-03-14 14:14 < uberpenguin> easter is an unimportant holiday designated for the selling of tons of nasty-tasting pieces of puffed sugar called peeps
2008-03-14 14:14 < mexicanbanana> So kids begging for candy two days of the year.
2008-03-14 14:14 < Golbez> basically
2008-03-14 14:14 < uberpenguin> far less important than the major national holidays, like the superbowl
2008-03-14 14:14 < Golbez> unlike many other holidays in America, Easter is relatively sedate
2008-03-14 14:15 < uberpenguin> that's because it inconveniently falls near tax day
2008-03-14 14:15 < uberpenguin> nobody is in a good mood
2008-03-14 14:15 < Golbez> religious folk will celebrate it (and the rest of the holy days, like Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, etc.), but the rest of us just get candy and look for easter eggs
2008-03-14 14:15 < Golbez> note i didn't include Mardi Gras in that, since that is a holiday viewed and respected by more than Catholics. =p
2008-03-14 14:15 < mexicanbanana> I cannot imagine old-time folks living and having a culture in the USA (not talking about native Americans). How did they manage to create folk songs and traditions in so little time? They basically had from the 18th century to the beginning of the 20th century...
2008-03-14 14:15 < uberpenguin> most religious folks probably aren't aware of what easter is about anyway
2008-03-14 14:16 < uberpenguin> nor where the bunnies and eggs come from
2008-03-14 14:16 < Golbez> we were well-motivated to create a culture independent from Europe
2008-03-14 14:16 < mexicanbanana> Well... I guess 200 years isn't that little, but still.
2008-03-14 14:16 < Golbez> the formation USA was one of, if not the, greatest intermingling of cultures in world history
2008-03-14 14:16 < mexicanbanana> Not exactly any time for "legends".
2008-03-14 14:16 < Golbez> new world indians, spanish, french, british influences
2008-03-14 14:17 < Golbez> you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a new fusion of culture
2008-03-14 14:17 < morwen> mexicanbanana: this has been repeated over and over again. it's amazing how fast cultures form
2008-03-14 14:17 < Demi> well, it did start before 1700, a bit, and some of the culture is inherited from european or english subcultures which are now gone or have evolved differently
2008-03-14 14:17 < Golbez> not to mention
2008-03-14 14:17 < Golbez> dutch, swedish
2008-03-14 14:17 < Golbez> finnish
2008-03-14 14:17 < Golbez> and of course
2008-03-14 14:17 < Golbez> the massive import of Africans
2008-03-14 14:17 < Demi> it's not like american folk music has nothing to do with irish folk music
2008-03-14 14:17 < Demi> or what have you
2008-03-14 14:18 < Golbez> which probably had as much, if not more, impact on the development of our culture than our European roots
2008-03-14 14:18 < Golbez> most major music styles in America, for example, can trace its lineage back to slave songs
2008-03-14 14:18 < Messedrocker> rock and roll was invented by black people
2008-03-14 14:18 < uberpenguin> the only american folk music worth mention is blues
2008-03-14 14:18 < Messedrocker> as was jazz and hip hop and R&B
2008-03-14 14:18 < Golbez> and therein lies your answer, mexicanbanana
2008-03-14 14:19 < Golbez> i think
2008-03-14 14:19 < Golbez> Messedrocker- exactly
2008-03-14 14:19 < mexicanbanana> "or what have you" <-- ?
2008-03-14 14:19 < uberpenguin> that's because white folk ain't got soul
2008-03-14 14:19 < Messedrocker> black people had rock music, white people had country
2008-03-14 14:19 < Messedrocker> which one is more popular now!
2008-03-14 14:19 < Golbez> apart from country, pretty much every major music style originates with african slaves
2008-03-14 14:19 < uberpenguin> except for maybe Johnny Winter
2008-03-14 14:19 < Messedrocker> Golbez, and classical music
2008-03-14 14:19 < Golbez> Well, yeah
2008-03-14 14:19 < Golbez> and of course with the slaves came other Caribbean influences
2008-03-14 14:19 < Golbez> we really were a melting pot, and our accelerated generation of culture reflects that
2008-03-14 14:19 < Demi> folk had a lot of influence on rock and protest music, you're oversimplifying
2008-03-14 14:20 < mexicanbanana> I am pretty amazed in general by how the world can exist and work.
2008-03-14 14:20 < mexicanbanana> How did people back in the day make money from selling books with so few people able to read?
2008-03-14 14:20 < mexicanbanana> Etc.
2008-03-14 14:20 < Golbez> mexicanbanana- small steps
2008-03-14 14:21 < quanticle> Golbez: What about techno?
2008-03-14 14:21 < gwern> mexicanbanana: high prices
2008-03-14 14:21 < gwern> books used to be ridiculously expensive. I think the equivalent these days would be a week's wages for a paperback
2008-03-14 14:21 < morwen> mexicanbanana: this engines and electricity stuff is really nice, but humans can manage just fine without it
2008-03-14 14:22 < uberpenguin> techno mostly sucked, a hallmark of genres invented by white folk
2008-03-14 14:22 < uberpenguin> :P
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> which is why the first books were bibles, were they not? and through those the text was finally codified
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> uberpenguin- um
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Image-Belville4.jpg
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> sorry to tell you, bro
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> but techno was invented by four black guys
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> =p
2008-03-14 14:22 < uberpenguin> lies
2008-03-14 14:22 < mexicanbanana> "(Deleting one piece of trivia and one dubious fact about a llama.)" <-- This is hilarious. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brett_Tabke&diff=155829171&oldid=155828937
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> oh and guys
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> techno: "The initial take on techno arose from the melding of various African American styles such as Chicago house, funk, electro, and electric jazz with Eurocentric synthesizer-based music."
2008-03-14 14:22 < Golbez> THE SLAVES WIN AGAIN
2008-03-14 14:23 < uberpenguin> you read that on wikipedia, didn't you?
2008-03-14 14:23 < Golbez> With a handful of notable exceptions all major music in the United States can be directly linked back to slave folk songs and spirituals.
2008-03-14 14:23 < Golbez> yes!
2008-03-14 14:23 < uberpenguin> it's a lie, then
2008-03-14 14:24 < Aqwis2> i suspect emo rock was not invented by africans ;)
2008-03-14 14:24 < Golbez> And not just the United States. The Beatles ensured its expansion to Britain.
2008-03-14 14:24 < gwern> Golbez: well, I suppose if you define books as being what gutenberg first began making (omitting all the inconvenient antecdent printing stuff), then yes, bibles were overrepresentated
2008-03-14 14:24 < Golbez> I don't quite know about pop, like Europop and J-pop.
2008-03-14 14:24 < uberpenguin> emo isn't a genre, it's just a pitiful cry for attention
2008-03-14 14:24 < Aqwis2> heh
2008-03-14 14:24 < Golbez> gwern- not only that, but churches had the money and therefore could afford bibles
2008-03-14 14:24 < uberpenguin> holy crap new black keys album leaked
2008-03-14 14:26 < gwern> Golbez: on the other hand, it's worth speculating about how much printing would've been retarded by if protestantism wasn't around, whatwith the Church trying to monopolize bibles...
2008-03-14 14:26 < Golbez> gwern- true
2008-03-14 14:26 < Golbez> the renaissance had a lot of things come together at the right time to really push things forward
2008-03-14 14:29 < uberpenguin> mmm Der fliegende Höllander, <3
2008-03-14 14:33 < uberpenguin> http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/
2008-03-14 14:35 < faroframkallande> lol at today's xkcsd
2008-03-14 14:38 < gwern> faroframkallande: youtubers deserve it
2008-03-14 14:39 < faroframkallande> I agree
2008-03-14 14:39 < faroframkallande> put poor Samara transcoded to FLV :(