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2008-03-13 18:35 < Cyrius> faroframkallande: you can get more digits with the time =)
2008-03-13 18:35 < Golbez> 3.14000 is farther away from 3.14159 than 3.14285 is
2008-03-13 18:36 < faroframkallande> Golbez: you made a rounding error :P
2008-03-13 18:36 < faroframkallande> It'd be 3.14286
2008-03-13 18:36 < Golbez> touche
2008-03-13 18:36 < Cyrius> 3/14 1:59:26
2008-03-13 18:37 < mavhc> 26.5358979323846264338327950288419716
2008-03-13 18:37 < Cyrius> piday.org sucks
2008-03-13 18:38 < Cyrius> happy albert einstein's birthday...day
2008-03-13 18:39 < LjL> hello, i find my IP blocked from editing wikipedia, claiming it's an open proxy. i understand i can login to the secure server and keep on editing, but i'd like to investigate the issue anyway. i've browsed through the wiki pages about blocking proxies (and requests for unblocking, etc), but i'm still a bit confused. my IP is indeed a NAT IP, shared with other users, as that is the politics that my ISP adopts. however, i can see no way it could be an open
2008-03-13 18:39 < LjL> proxy, because we are not able to have listening services on ports, to begin with.
2008-03-13 18:39 < Golbez> LjL- what's the IP?
2008-03-13 18:40 < LjL> Golbez, it's 213.140.17.103
2008-03-13 18:40 < Golbez> it was used for vandalism in 2006 that was consistent with it being an open proxy
2008-03-13 18:40 < Golbez> however if what you say is correct, and IPs can of course change ownership over time
2008-03-13 18:40 < Golbez> i see no problem with undoing it
2008-03-13 18:41 < Golbez> one moment
2008-03-13 18:41 < LjL> Golbez, you could say indeed it *is* a proxy, since it's shared with i-don't-know-how-many other users of my ISP. it's not open, though, because only those users exit on it (unless there's some security hole on the ISP side)
2008-03-13 18:42 < Golbez> LjL- This vandalism was consistent with a single user using proxies all over the world, not just ones from his own ISP. Therefore it's likely the IP has either changed hands, or was open by fault
2008-03-13 18:42 < LjL> it is found on some DNSBLs, i'm seeing. that doesn't surprise me, as i guess there could likely be machines running viruses or whatever... but open proxy, nope
2008-03-13 18:43 < LjL> Golbez, however you say this was in 2006? i think i've been on this very address for quite some time now... (they do move users once in a while, but not often at all). i should check my logs
2008-03-13 18:43 < Golbez> LjL- february 2006
2008-03-13 18:44 < Hargrimm> Could someone block Evanpsp2?
2008-03-13 18:44 < Golbez> interesting
2008-03-13 18:44 < Hargrimm> It's a sock of Evanpsp, and both accounts have been used for nothing but vandalizing
2008-03-13 18:44 < Golbez> all of the edits prior to its blocking were valid, but there was a 9 month gap between the last valid edit and the first vandal edit
2008-03-13 18:44 < Golbez> so i'm chalking this up to a fluke and unblocking
2008-03-13 18:45 < Golbez> LjL- unblocked
2008-03-13 18:45 < LjL> Golbez, it might possibly be that the valid edits were my own - 2006 is consistent with the time i stopped very actively editing wikipedia
2008-03-13 18:45 < Golbez> LjL- considering the IP is italian, and most of the edits were adding Italian interwikis
2008-03-13 18:45 < Golbez> Hargrimm- checking
2008-03-13 18:46 < Golbez> blocking
2008-03-13 18:46 < LjL> Golbez, ah no, that wouldn't be me then, i mostly edited english articles and didn't link much to the italian wikipedia. anyway, thanks for unblocking, but do you think i should perhaps contact my ISP anyway? it's on spamhaus and SORBS after all
2008-03-13 18:47 < Golbez> LjL- up to you, might help
2008-03-13 18:47 < LjL> ok
2008-03-13 19:11 < NotACow> moooooooo!
2008-03-13 19:14 < Messedrocker> MEEEUUUHHH
2008-03-13 19:25 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-13 19:25 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-13 19:25 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-13 19:25 < NotACow> mooooo
2008-03-13 19:26 < Messedrocker> MooAMoo
2008-03-13 19:27 < NotACow> Messedrocker: did you hit majorly?
2008-03-13 19:27 < Messedrocker> beg your pardon?
2008-03-13 19:27 < NotACow> apaprently he was hit by a car.
2008-03-13 19:28 < Messedrocker> i'm not licensed to drive
2008-03-13 19:28 < Messedrocker> and if i did have my permit i'd only be allowed to drive in the jughandle capital of the world
2008-03-13 19:28 < gwern> I have a permit for chicken sexing
2008-03-13 19:29 < NovaDog> ..
2008-03-13 19:29 < Messedrocker> NovaDog, chicken sexing isn't what you think it is
2008-03-13 19:30 < NovaDog> Taking chickens and killing male ones o.0 or something.
2008-03-13 19:30 < Messedrocker> er yes, that is what it is
2008-03-13 19:30 < Messedrocker> well
2008-03-13 19:30 < gwern> only a true geek would do the latter
2008-03-13 19:30 < Messedrocker> maybe not exactly that
2008-03-13 19:30 < Messedrocker> but it's not chicken fornication
2008-03-13 19:31 < NotACow> chicken sexing is the fine art of inspecting newborn chicks to determine if they're male or female.
2008-03-13 19:32 < NotACow> you don't kill the males --- not right away, at least
2008-03-13 19:32 < gwern> you eventually kill all the chicks, one way or 'nother
2008-03-13 19:33 < NotACow> gwern: yup
2008-03-13 19:33 < NovaDog> I'd hate to be a chicken.
2008-03-13 19:33 < NotACow> NovaDog: it's not the most fulfilling life, i suspect
2008-03-13 19:33 < NotACow> NovaDog: especially if your name is mike
2008-03-13 19:33 < Messedrocker> mike cock?
2008-03-13 19:33 < gwern> NovaDog: it's an interesting question if it is meaningful for you to say such a thing. in what way could you be a chicken?
2008-03-13 19:34 < gwern> it's kind of like asking what'd it be like to be a bacteria, but scaled up
2008-03-13 19:41 < lovelove> i want to start contributing to wikipedia. is there a place i can learn about tables and stuff because i'd just be doing discographies and such
2008-03-13 19:42 < lovelove> i read all the tutorials and such but i know nothing about html and such.
2008-03-13 19:42 < Hildanknight> Hello, lovelove! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Table will teach you how to format tables.
2008-03-13 19:42 < lovelove> thanks
2008-03-13 19:43 < Hildanknight> Welcome. :)
2008-03-13 19:51 < lovelove> peace and love
2008-03-13 19:53 < sargun_screen> neillithan: hiuya
2008-03-13 19:53 < sargun_screen> err
2008-03-13 19:53 < sargun_screen> Neillithan, jhiya
2008-03-13 19:53 < sargun_screen> !
2008-03-13 19:53 < Neillithan> hi there.
2008-03-13 19:53 < NotEarlScruggs> Hello
2008-03-13 19:54 < sargun_screen> er, Neillithan, hi
2008-03-13 19:54 < sargun_screen> Illinois.
2008-03-13 19:54 < Neillithan> sargun_screen: somewhere.
2008-03-13 20:04 < ST47> The FA is oxygen?
2008-03-13 20:04 < ST47> >.>
2008-03-13 20:04 < Mark_Ryan> love is like oxygen
2008-03-13 20:07 < NotACow> unusual FAs get more readers than boring ones.
2008-03-13 20:07 < zvook> irish phonology was both.
2008-03-13 20:08 < Autocracy> anybody feel like closing this withdraw up? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Autocracy
2008-03-13 20:09 < zvook> Peace, peace! he is not dead, he doth not sleep— He hath awakened from the dream of adminship
2008-03-13 20:10 < Autocracy> I can't tell you how much I've detested RfA since the day I started here
2008-03-13 20:10 < Riana> Autocracy: closed
2008-03-13 20:10 < Riana> sorry about that :/
2008-03-13 20:11 < Mark_Ryan> RfA wasn't bad when I went through
2008-03-13 20:11 < Autocracy> I think i showed up about 6 months late
2008-03-13 20:11 < OverlordQ> it's turned into edit countitis :D
2008-03-13 20:11 * zvook recalls Mark_Ryan
2008-03-13 20:12 < Mark_Ryan> I had like 800 edits when I passed
2008-03-13 20:12 < Snowolf> ehehe
2008-03-13 20:12 < Autocracy> yeah... everybody gave me hell of inconsistensy... had a long break of little edits
2008-03-13 20:12 < Mark_Ryan> then again, I turned out to be such a crap admin that everyone started demanding better from potential admins. that's my theory, anyway
2008-03-13 20:13 < Autocracy> but most of that was time over on toolserver
2008-03-13 20:13 < Autocracy> and I think I've been around here long enough that most of the regulars know me
2008-03-13 20:13 < Kerotan> I predict that my first RFA will come in about 2 years when I summon up the courage that I won't get violently rejected.
2008-03-13 20:15 < Mark_Ryan> I got nominated for adminship twice and declined it both times, before i finally decided to
2008-03-13 20:15 < Mark_Ryan> even back then, being an admin was too much hassle
2008-03-13 20:15 < Kerotan> I have seen too many people who I thought were better for the role fail RFA.
2008-03-13 20:16 < FastLizard4> Aww, Riana's RfB failed :(
2008-03-13 20:16 < Kerotan> According to the admin couching board, I need 6000 edits....
2008-03-13 20:17 < Riana> it didn't fail. it didn't reach the promotion threshold, is all. ;)
2008-03-13 20:17 < Mark_Ryan> what was the final percentage, Riana?
2008-03-13 20:17 < Riana> 85. something
2008-03-13 20:17 < Mark_Ryan> damn
2008-03-13 20:17 * Mark_Ryan hugs
2008-03-13 20:17 < Kerotan> Riana for 'crat! etc.
2008-03-13 20:17 < Riana> thankees, I'm not bothered anymore
2008-03-13 20:18 < Mark_Ryan> fancy that: not passing RfB, and having to put up with the longest hot spell of any Australian capital city in history
2008-03-13 20:19 < Kerotan> anyway, time for beddy byes for me.
2008-03-13 20:19 < Riana> I know, my life sucks
2008-03-13 20:19 < Kerotan> I am tired and hungry.
2008-03-13 20:19 < Hildanknight> Is the database locked?
2008-03-13 20:19 < Riana> see ya Kerotan :)
2008-03-13 20:19 < Kerotan> time to eat breakfast.
2008-03-13 20:19 * Hildanknight waves to Mark_Ryan
2008-03-13 20:19 < Kerotan> See ya Riana.
2008-03-13 20:19 * Hildanknight waves to Riana
2008-03-13 20:19 < Mark_Ryan> Hildanknight, when it does get locked, it invariably is fixed in about 10 seconds
2008-03-13 20:19 < Kerotan> night all.
2008-03-13 20:19 < Mark_Ryan> good night, Kerotan
2008-03-13 20:19 < FastLizard4> zomg!!!!11
2008-03-13 20:19 < FastLizard4> "Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 138 seconds might not be shown in this list."
2008-03-13 20:20 * FastLizard4 is scared
2008-03-13 20:20 < Hildanknight> Mark_Ryan: Are you free enough to do about 8 Factiva searches?
2008-03-13 20:20 < Mark_Ryan> FastLizard4: if you find that surprising, you evidently didn't see it when it was in days, not seconds
2008-03-13 20:20 < FastLizard4> X-D
2008-03-13 20:20 < Mark_Ryan> Hildanknight, yes
2008-03-13 20:20 < FastLizard4> Due to high database server lag, changes newer than 138 milenia might not be shown in this list.
2008-03-13 20:20 < NotEarlScruggs> :O
2008-03-13 20:24 < The359> ooo, fun
2008-03-13 20:24 < The359> someone blanked a page I wrote
2008-03-13 20:25 < wba> yo
2008-03-13 20:27 < OverlordQ> arg, so need macro/script for doing repetive table creation :(
2008-03-13 21:05 < The359> w00t
2008-03-13 21:05 < The359> another DYK of mine on the Main Page
2008-03-13 21:05 < The359> and the picture I took for the article
2008-03-13 21:25 < Ceiling_Cat> too quiet in here
2008-03-13 21:25 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-13 21:28 < NotACow> MOAR CRATZ
2008-03-13 21:29 < quanticle|away> NotACow: Have you seen this: http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2008/03/cooked-books.html
2008-03-13 21:30 < NotACow> quanticle: not yet
2008-03-13 21:30 * Master_son gives Ceiling_Cat another cat
2008-03-13 21:31 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: More cats, indeed
2008-03-13 21:31 < Master_son> NotACow - too late you just saw it
2008-03-13 21:32 * Ceiling_Cat glues fur, ears, whiskers, and a tail on Mark_Ryan
2008-03-13 21:32 * Ceiling_Cat pets Mark_Ryan_cat
2008-03-13 21:32 < Mark_Ryan> I am not a furry.
2008-03-13 21:32 < Mark_Ryan> :P
2008-03-13 21:32 < Master_son> no youre a cat
2008-03-13 21:32 < Mark_Ryan> I was just cuddling a cat
2008-03-13 21:32 < Master_son> :P
2008-03-13 21:33 * NotACow offers Mark_Ryan her admin account at wikifur
2008-03-13 21:33 < Ceiling_Cat> you're not 'a' furry, but you are furry now
2008-03-13 21:33 < Mark_Ryan> by the way, I got your email, Master_son, and will consider it
2008-03-13 21:33 < Master_son> thank you
2008-03-13 21:33 * Ceiling_Cat shaves Mark_Ryan_cat: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:CurledSphynx.jpg
2008-03-13 21:34 * Mark_Ryan is currently in the process of trasferring his collection of VHS tapes to DVD, which is fun.
2008-03-13 21:34 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: Any thoughts on the article?
2008-03-13 21:34 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: there's an article?
2008-03-13 21:34 < Master_son> yuck!
2008-03-13 21:35 < NotACow> the next article i am going to review is [[John McCain]]
2008-03-13 21:35 < Master_son> try this :p http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/NadrojEhtylb/Terminator.jpg
2008-03-13 21:35 < NotACow> my preliminary rating was A-
2008-03-13 21:36 < NotACow> but it might go down to B+
2008-03-13 21:36 < NotACow> i need to read it again
2008-03-13 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> $15 for 500 sheets of thesis paper
2008-03-13 21:36 < Ceiling_Cat> what a rip off
2008-03-13 21:37 < Master_son> 500?
2008-03-13 21:37 < Ceiling_Cat> yea, theses have to be submitted on special paper
2008-03-13 21:37 < Ceiling_Cat> bonded, watermarked, 25% cotton
2008-03-13 21:37 < Master_son> that's 3 cents a sheet
2008-03-13 21:38 < Master_son> its more expensive to get standard white paper from a copier (inc the ink of course)
2008-03-13 21:38 < Ceiling_Cat> Master_son - http://www.colorado.edu/propertydistributionservices/paper.htm
2008-03-13 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> standard paper costs like $3-$4 per ream
2008-03-13 21:39 < Master_son> O_O
2008-03-13 21:39 < Master_son> coupled with the fact that you're getting it from the university
2008-03-13 21:39 * Ceiling_Cat seperates Enterprise_Cat's saucer section from his drive section
2008-03-13 21:40 * Enterprise_Cat reconnects
2008-03-13 21:40 * Mark_Ryan goes into Enterprise_Cat's Battle Bridge
2008-03-13 21:40 < Master_son> oh snap!
2008-03-13 21:40 * Enterprise_Cat dosen't know whether or not to trust Mark_Ryan
2008-03-13 21:41 < Mark_Ryan> ever notice how they only used the battle bridge, like, once or twice? I guess they converted it to a storage closet after that
2008-03-13 21:41 < Enterprise_Cat> Mark_Ryan: No, it was used as the Enterprise bridge for the movies
2008-03-13 21:41 < Ceiling_Cat> Mark_Ryan - they used it in the pilot, and in Best of Both Worlds
2008-03-13 21:41 * Ceiling_Cat tries to think of a third time
2008-03-13 21:42 < Mark_Ryan> Enterprise_Cat, I don't mean the stage, I mean, the room on the Enterprise
2008-03-13 21:42 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: the minos episode
2008-03-13 21:42 < Mark_Ryan> they stopped using it in battles
2008-03-13 21:42 < Ceiling_Cat> yea
2008-03-13 21:42 < Ceiling_Cat> The Arsenal of Freedom
2008-03-13 21:42 * NotACow never memorized ep titles for TNG
2008-03-13 21:43 < NotACow> TOS, yes
2008-03-13 21:43 < NotACow> TNG, no
2008-03-13 21:43 < NotACow> and my TOS recollections are faded now
2008-03-13 21:43 < Enterprise_Cat> I have the entire TOS on DVD
2008-03-13 21:44 < Master_son> sleepy time
2008-03-13 21:44 < The359> The battle bridge was mostly converted to the bridges of other ships during TNG
2008-03-13 21:44 < The359> it was the bridge of the Stargazer and the Enterprise-C I recall
2008-03-13 21:44 < Ceiling_Cat> time to go
2008-03-13 21:44 < Ceiling_Cat> goodnight folks
2008-03-13 21:46 < Mark_Ryan> I wonder what the new movie will be like
2008-03-13 21:46 < The359> shite
2008-03-13 21:47 < Leslie_S> so uhm
2008-03-13 21:47 < NotACow> http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/28771279
2008-03-13 21:48 < miranda> hi Leslie_S
2008-03-13 21:49 < Leslie_S> hi
2008-03-13 21:50 < Leslie_S> i feel like i need a new job ;/
2008-03-13 21:50 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S, how do you wink and have the :/ face at the same time?
2008-03-13 21:50 < Leslie_S> stop asking me that
2008-03-13 21:50 < Messedrocker> stop not answering it!
2008-03-13 21:50 < Leslie_S> i can do it in real life.
2008-03-13 21:50 < Random832|away> the mouth is in profile
2008-03-13 21:51 < Mark_Ryan> NotACow, that's hilarious :D
2008-03-13 21:51 < Leslie_S> anyway, my new, jerky manager, says that im "going to have a problem" because i cant work 11-8, because apparently my job is "an 11-8 job"
2008-03-13 21:51 < Leslie_S> i was hired by a manager who wasnt a total jerk, 6 months ago, with way worse availability than that. (often not starting until 3pm!)
2008-03-13 21:52 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: Yeah - the real article is here: http://www.tnr.com/story.html?id=82eb5d70-13bd-4086-9ec0-cb0e9e8411b3
2008-03-13 21:53 < Random832|away> NotACow: it should let you see the original
2008-03-13 21:53 < Leslie_S> y, my new, jerky manager, says that im "going to have a problem" because i cant work 11-8, because apparently my job is "an 11-8 job"
2008-03-13 21:53 < Leslie_S> [22:51] <Leslie_S> i was hired by a manager who wasnt a total jerk, 6 months ago, with way worse availability than that. (often not starting until 3pm!)
2008-03-13 21:53 < Leslie_S> [22:52] <Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: Yeah - the real article is here: http://www.tnr.com/story.html?id=82eb5d70-13bd-4086-9ec0-cb0e9e8411b3
2008-03-13 21:53 < Leslie_S> [22:52] * snowolf (n=snowolf@wikimedia/Snowolf) has joined #wikipedia
2008-03-13 21:53 < Leslie_S> [22:52] <Random832|away> NotACow: it should let you see the original
2008-03-13 21:53 < Leslie_S> oops.
2008-03-13 21:53 < Schrodinger_Cat> He compares the accuracy of Wikipedia and peer-reviewed economic journals, and justifies why he feels that Wikipedia is superior...
2008-03-13 21:53 < Leslie_S> but uh...does that mean im going to lose my job? :/
2008-03-13 21:53 < Random832|away> i mean, they _are_ based on actual garfield strips, right?
2008-03-13 21:53 < Schrodinger_Cat> Leslie_S: Maybe.
2008-03-13 21:53 < NotACow> Mark_Ryan: i like garfield minus garfield. :)
2008-03-13 21:53 < NotACow> Random832|away: yeah, ithink so
2008-03-13 21:54 < Random832|away> because i'm trying to figure out how it makes sense that the original strip wasted three panels on him opening the freezer, which isn't a shot that looks like it ever had the cat in it
2008-03-13 21:54 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: people have lots of stupid ideas
2008-03-13 21:55 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: But Tyler Cowen is not generally a stupid person. Hear him out.
2008-03-13 21:55 < Mark_Ryan> Random832|away, perhaps thought bubbles of garfield's
2008-03-13 21:55 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: his argument is that refereed journals are not certified fonts of truth. duh. nothing to see here, move along please.
2008-03-13 21:55 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: he's not adding anything new to the discourse
2008-03-13 21:56 < Krimpet> Random832|away: the original garfield isn't exactly a fine example of comedy, anyway. :)
2008-03-13 21:56 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: i mean, it's long-established that a majority of social sciences papers have unsound statistical method.
2008-03-13 21:57 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: but wikipedia is no better at this.
2008-03-13 21:57 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: and while wikipedia has more eyeballs, most of those eyeballs are attached to remarkably stupid people.
2008-03-13 22:01 < The359> http://pupismyname.shackspace.com/tight_jeans.gif *mesmorized*
2008-03-13 22:01 < NotACow> The359: bouncing silicone, eh?
2008-03-13 22:02 < The359> silicone doesn't bounce that fluidly
2008-03-13 22:03 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: His argument is that Wikipedia can cast a wider net - that we're more plugged in to the bloggers, websites and other sources that can cast doubt about an article or book's veracity.
2008-03-13 22:04 * Schrodinger_Cat is glad that he's not at work because he clicked on The359's link.
2008-03-13 22:05 < OverlordQ> hurm, who is that. looks familiar, swear saw vid with her in it
2008-03-13 22:05 < The359> (NSFW)
2008-03-13 22:05 < The359> better late than never
2008-03-13 22:06 < Schrodinger_Cat> I mean, there's no nudity, but you have to admit that the bouncing jubblies are a bit risque...
2008-03-13 22:06 < The359> a tad
2008-03-13 22:07 < patbam> hi, is there any way to look up intersections of categories? i'm wondering if there are any othger politicians who are computer programmers besides [[Bill Foster (Illinois politician)]]
2008-03-13 22:08 < The359> cross checking is forbidden
2008-03-13 22:09 < patbam> huh?
2008-03-13 22:10 < The359> joke
2008-03-13 22:11 < Cyrius> there's no on-site tool for doing category intersections
2008-03-13 22:11 < Cyrius> yes, it is widely considered a flaw
2008-03-13 22:11 < The359> by whom?
2008-03-13 22:12 < Cyrius> people who worry about categories =)
2008-03-13 22:12 < The359> effing database lock
2008-03-13 22:14 < patbam> don't you mean fscking database lock?
2008-03-13 22:14 < The359> no, why the fuck would I misspell fucking?
2008-03-13 22:14 < patbam> haha
2008-03-13 22:14 < patbam> well played sir
2008-03-13 22:14 < Schrodinger_Cat> The359 is the winner
2008-03-13 22:15 < The359> champeen
2008-03-13 22:21 < Random832|away> is there something on toolserver for it?
2008-03-13 22:22 < NotACow> mooooo
2008-03-13 22:22 < NotACow> moqooo!
2008-03-13 22:22 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-13 22:23 < NotACow> moooooaoaoao!
2008-03-13 22:23 < NotACow> mooo!p
2008-03-13 22:24 * Krimpet could go for a juicy black angus burger right about now :D
2008-03-13 22:24 < bumm13> :)
2008-03-13 22:37 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cottonginpatent.jpg
2008-03-13 22:37 < The359> That's a pretty impressive drawing for 1794
2008-03-13 22:38 < Schrodinger_Cat> Yeah. Engineers could actually draw back then.
2008-03-13 22:39 < Schrodinger_Cat> It wasn't considered girly for guys to know how to draw, because drawing was a key skill for draughtmanship.
2008-03-13 22:39 < The359> yeah
2008-03-13 22:39 < The359> the shading though and coloring is nice as well
2008-03-13 22:40 < Schrodinger_Cat> Yeah. Eli Whitney was one sharp dude.
2008-03-13 22:42 < Schrodinger_Cat> Too bad he never really made much money off his inventions.
2008-03-13 22:46 < IceKarma> http://i32.tinypic.com/33azdjt.jpg - "Buffering" [SFW]
2008-03-13 22:46 < The359> LOL
2008-03-13 22:47 < IceKarma> Schrodinger_Cat, I've read a theory that a black slave invented the cotton gin, and he took the credit and patented it
2008-03-13 22:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> IceKarma: I heard that it was his landlady that suggested he use a brush-like mechanism to separate the cotton from the seeds, and that Eli Whitney only got the patent because women were not allowed to hold patents then.
2008-03-13 22:49 < Leslie_S> thats a hell of a drawing, The359
2008-03-13 22:50 < The359> Serves her right for opening her mouth out of turn
2008-03-13 22:58 < Random832|away> anyone think [[Client 9]] should be redirected to [[Eliot Spitzer prostitution scandal]] instead of to Spiter's bio?
2008-03-13 22:59 < Cyrius> Random832|away: makes sense to me
2008-03-13 23:22 < NotACow> MOO!
2008-03-13 23:25 * Enterprise_Cat is now going to bed, good night!
2008-03-13 23:34 < dtobias> OINK!
2008-03-13 23:35 < bumm13> ^(")^
2008-03-13 23:47 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-03-14 00:11 < ViciousGu> Hi
2008-03-14 00:12 < JBDiaz> hi
2008-03-14 00:12 < Mike2> http://img.waffleimages.com/0b61340d7be0e7afac2f2632b6548b035c834260/Picture%2020.png
2008-03-14 00:12 < Mike2> hi
2008-03-14 00:12 < ViciousGu> I know there is a dispute in the Iran Air Flight 655 article, but this disputed image is a major copyright problem and POV problem and even though it is being debated, it should be removed immediately AND not restored UNLESS people decide to keep it
2008-03-14 00:13 < ViciousGu> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IR655 - And go to "Independent sources"
2008-03-14 00:13 < ViciousGu> We do not have verifiable sources stating that the image is of an IR655 victim, so the default ought to be excluding the image - its copyright status -
2008-03-14 00:13 < ViciousGu> And to add it has a false copyright status http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vincennes_shot.jpg
2008-03-14 00:14 < miranda> ViciousGu: regular users can't edit the page, only admins
2008-03-14 00:14 < ViciousGu> So that would make it a speedy candidate, right?
2008-03-14 00:14 < ViciousGu> I am an admin
2008-03-14 00:14 < miranda> oh ok
2008-03-14 00:14 < ViciousGu> WhisperToMe is my Wikipedia name
2008-03-14 00:14 < ViciousGu> Now, I know the image is being disputed but if its license is false (meaning it was given a false license) I can remove it immediately, right?
2008-03-14 00:14 < miranda> ViciousGu: you might want to change the licensing to FU
2008-03-14 00:14 < ViciousGu> Well, it is already indicated as a copyright problem
2008-03-14 00:14 < miranda> to {{copyrighted}} and provide a fair use rationale
2008-03-14 00:14 < miranda> yeah
2008-03-14 00:15 < ViciousGu> I don't think there is an FU rationale as there is no proof that it IS an IR655 victim
2008-03-14 00:15 < ViciousGu> All we have is a strange Iranian website
2008-03-14 00:15 < miranda> ah ok
2008-03-14 00:15 < ViciousGu> Not a well known Iranian newspaper
2008-03-14 00:15 < ViciousGu> Just some... website
2008-03-14 00:16 < miranda> ViciousGu: http://www.sajed.ir/pe/component/option,com_ponygallery/Itemid,4/func,detail/id,5222/
2008-03-14 00:18 < ViciousGu> Yeah, that was the site, but I don't know if it is a reliable source
2008-03-14 00:19 < miranda> prob not
2008-03-14 00:19 < ViciousGu> It just seems to be a propaganda website..
2008-03-14 00:19 < miranda> yeah
2008-03-14 00:19 < miranda> orig. author prob. belongs to reuters
2008-03-14 00:32 < miranda> ViciousGu: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78406052@N00/2067096403/sizes/l/
2008-03-14 00:32 < miranda> a free standing Popeyes
2008-03-14 00:33 < ViciousGu> Hey, thanks
2008-03-14 00:34 < ViciousGu> I had been meaning to take that with my own camera, but I guess I don't need to :)
2008-03-14 00:34 < ViciousGu> There's another style location so I might take that one anyway, but thanks :)
2008-03-14 00:34 < miranda> ViciousGu: check your talk, I found a better one on flickr
2008-03-14 00:35 < ViciousGu> On Commons, right?
2008-03-14 00:37 < miranda> no on en.
2008-03-14 00:37 < ViciousGu> oh, ok :)
2008-03-14 00:40 < Mike2> http://www.wftv.com/news/3643877/detail.html
2008-03-14 00:41 < miranda> see ya
2008-03-14 00:46 < Warpath> \o/
2008-03-14 00:46 < Warpath> hey ViciousGut :p
2008-03-14 00:46 < ViciousGu> hey Warpath
2008-03-14 00:46 < Warpath> :D
2008-03-14 00:48 < JBDiaz> this chan
2008-03-14 00:48 < JBDiaz> is boring
2008-03-14 00:49 < Demi> this sure is a lot of movie recommendations
2008-03-14 00:55 < Mole2> What's up with the servers today?
2008-03-14 00:56 < Mole2> I get server busy messages every now and then and some actions are very slow even when they succeed.
2008-03-14 00:57 < Mole2> The job queue is fairly small ( 348,888 ) so that can't be it.
2008-03-14 00:57 < Mole2> I am referring to en.wikipedia by the way.
2008-03-14 00:57 < Mike_H> <JBDiaz> this chan
2008-03-14 00:57 < Mike_H> <JBDiaz> is boring
2008-03-14 00:57 < Mike_H> * JBDiaz has left #wikipedia ("Leaving")
2008-03-14 00:57 < Mike_H> uh, bye.
2008-03-14 00:57 < Mike_H> dork.
2008-03-14 00:58 < Mole2> Hi Mike_H.
2008-03-14 00:58 < Mike_H> hi
2008-03-14 00:59 < Mole2> Ah well, no one else but us two seems to be awake. So I guess I will not get any answer what is going on.
2008-03-14 00:59 < Mike_H> oh, I wasn't listening
2008-03-14 00:59 < Mole2> (I have forgotten where one can find out more about server status etc.)
2008-03-14 01:01 < Demi> i read my scrollback but i don't have an answer for why things feel slow to you
2008-03-14 01:01 < Mike_H> Demi: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5Nca7BuzpgY
2008-03-14 01:02 < Demi> i like dawn french
2008-03-14 01:05 < Luna-San> And then people just aren't talking in here, either.
2008-03-14 01:05 < Luna-San> So everything is slow.
2008-03-14 01:05 < Luna-San> Somebody fix it.
2008-03-14 01:09 < Mole2> Well thanks folks for at least saying something.
2008-03-14 01:09 < Mole2> I fell asleep at the computer, I guess I better go to bed.
2008-03-14 01:09 < Mole2> CU folks some other day.
2008-03-14 01:09 < bumm13> later Mole2
2008-03-14 01:10 < Luna-San> Hmm. Wonder how I've managed to not hear of Dawn French before.
2008-03-14 01:11 < Riana> Luna-San: :o
2008-03-14 01:12 < Riana> french and saunders = legends
2008-03-14 01:13 < Luna-San> Clearly I have some getting-cultured to do
2008-03-14 01:13 < Luna-San> Never mind my shoddy grammar
2008-03-14 01:13 < Mike_H> Demi: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gEn9O77_SQc
2008-03-14 01:13 < Mike_H> '80s flashback
2008-03-14 01:13 < Mike_H> Punky Boobster!
2008-03-14 01:20 < Demi> i never really watched that show
2008-03-14 01:23 < bumm13> wheeeee!
2008-03-14 01:23 < Mike_H> Demi: Oh, I did
2008-03-14 01:23 < Mike_H> in reruns
2008-03-14 01:23 < Mike_H> every afternoon
2008-03-14 01:23 < bumm13> hiya Mike
2008-03-14 01:23 < Mike_H> My favorite episode was the one where Cherie's cousin came to visit
2008-03-14 01:23 < Mike_H> and her baby swallowed bleach
2008-03-14 01:23 < Mike_H> and she couldn't figure out what to do
2008-03-14 01:23 < Mike_H> because she couldn't read
2008-03-14 01:23 < Mike_H> Punky and the gang to the rescue!
2008-03-14 01:24 < bumm13> Punky....Brewster?
2008-03-14 01:24 < Mike_H> yes
2008-03-14 01:25 < Demi> illiterate adults are always a surefire heartstring-tugger
2008-03-14 01:25 < Mike_H> or that one where they played Hide and Seek
2008-03-14 01:25 < Mike_H> and Cherie hid in an old fridge
2008-03-14 01:26 < Mike_H> with the jammed handle
2008-03-14 01:26 < Mike_H> and she couldn't get out
2008-03-14 01:34 < TheWeasel> "...and their motto "Floreat pica" ("Flourish Magpies!", or "May the Magpies Prosper!")."
2008-03-14 01:34 < TheWeasel> actually, no
2008-03-14 01:34 < TheWeasel> "May the magpie prosper"
2008-03-14 01:35 < TheWeasel> singular
2008-03-14 01:35 < TheWeasel> oh well
2008-03-14 01:35 < ggreer> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernization_theory#Globalization_and_modernization
2008-03-14 01:35 < TheWeasel> brb
2008-03-14 01:35 < ggreer> wow, talk about bad articles
2008-03-14 01:35 < ggreer> "Crime is one of the biggest downfalls of globalization. Criminal activities have thrived due to the development of the internet. Internet pedophile crime has increased with globalization. Inappropriate pictures of minors are distributed around the world.
2008-03-14 01:35 < ggreer> The growth of tourism and the entertainment business has turned prostitution into a big business on a global scale. Therefore the trafficking of women and children to different parts of the globe has increased over the years."
2008-03-14 01:36 < Demi> it's better than "God damn the magpies"
2008-03-14 01:36 < ggreer> yeah, because it's not like crime existed before technology
2008-03-14 01:36 * Mike_H NP: Tony Orlando and Dawn - Knock Three Times (1970)
2008-03-14 01:36 < TheWeasel> Pereant picae!
2008-03-14 01:36 < TheWeasel> that's a fun song
2008-03-14 01:36 < Demi> yeah, this recent trend of there being prostitutes really sucks
2008-03-14 01:36 < Mike_H> Tony Orlando and Dawn (originally known as Dawn, and later as Dawn featuring Tony Orlando) was a pop music group that was very popular in the 1970s. Their signature hits were "Candida", "Knock Three Times", "Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Ole Oak Tree", and "He Don't Love You (Like I Love You)".
2008-03-14 01:37 < ggreer> Demi: yeah, before industrialization men didn't have to pay women for sex
2008-03-14 01:37 < Mike_H> fun fact: Tie a Yellow Ribbon 'Round the Ole Oak Tree was the highest-selling single for the year 1974 in the US
2008-03-14 01:37 < TheWeasel> there's this CD box sold on home shopping here where that guy sings with his chest hair showing
2008-03-14 01:37 < Mike_H> sorry, 1973.
2008-03-14 01:37 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Tony Orlando's shirts were always like that
2008-03-14 01:38 < Luna-San> ggreer: Where did we go wrong?
2008-03-14 01:38 < Mike_H> unless he was wearing shirts with like
2008-03-14 01:38 < Mike_H> ruffles and a big bow tie
2008-03-14 01:38 < Mike_H> http://youtube.com/watch?v=x2tZREt17Cc
2008-03-14 01:38 < Mike_H> Tony Orlando and Dawn <3
2008-03-14 01:38 < ggreer> Luna-San: about the time we invented dishwashing and laundry machines
2008-03-14 01:38 < Demi> let's not forget the internet
2008-03-14 01:38 < Demi> it gives people the idea to have sex in the first place
2008-03-14 01:38 < Mike_H> Plus, Raul654 looks like Tony Orlando
2008-03-14 01:39 < bumm13> hiya Demi
2008-03-14 01:39 < Mike_H> a fatter version, but still a spitting image nonetheless
2008-03-14 01:39 < Demi> hi bumm13
2008-03-14 01:39 < bumm13> Mike: lol
2008-03-14 01:39 < Luna-San> Which came first, the <s>chicken or the egg</s> internet or the porn?
2008-03-14 01:39 < ggreer> hmm... I don't think washers and dryers are generally called "laundry machines"
2008-03-14 01:39 < ggreer> although I'd like to coin the term
2008-03-14 01:39 < Demi> it makes them sound quaintly disagreeable
2008-03-14 01:39 < Mike_H> bumm13: although Raul654 is just Italian
2008-03-14 01:39 < bumm13> insert your "to coin" into a laundromat washing machine :)
2008-03-14 01:39 < Mike_H> Tony Orlando was Puerto Rican and Greek, I think
2008-03-14 01:39 < TheWeasel> It was followed as a UK No. 1 by a song called "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep" by Middle of the Road
2008-03-14 01:39 < Demi> it's what herman t. zweibel would call them
2008-03-14 01:39 < TheWeasel> That sounds even worse than Soley Soley
2008-03-14 01:39 < ggreer> haha
2008-03-14 01:40 < TheWeasel> Area Weasel Will Be Right Back
2008-03-14 01:40 * bumm13 is trying to discombobulate early Cromemco history
2008-03-14 01:40 < bumm13> hiya Weasel
2008-03-14 01:40 < Mike_H> bumm13: recognize who one of the Dawn singers is?
2008-03-14 01:41 < Mike_H> Telma Hopkins, who went on to become a sitcom actress as the sidekicks on Gimme a Break! and Family Matters
2008-03-14 01:42 < bumm13> no, I didn't know that
2008-03-14 01:42 < ggreer> isn't gimme a break a segment on 20/20?
2008-03-14 01:42 < ggreer> by john stossel, the lolbertarian
2008-03-14 01:43 < Luna-San> I wanna see Stossel in Michael Moore get into a brawl.
2008-03-14 01:43 < Mike_H> ggreer: Gimme a Break! is also an '80s sitcom
2008-03-14 01:43 < ggreer> oh
2008-03-14 01:43 < Luna-San> *s/in/and/
2008-03-14 01:43 < Mike_H> starring Nell Carter and a lot of fat jokes
2008-03-14 01:43 < ggreer> Luna-San: stossel would kick moore's ass
2008-03-14 01:44 < Luna-San> Stossel got in a fight with a pro wrestler and lived.
2008-03-14 01:44 < TheWeasel> It's a particularly wide target, too.
2008-03-14 01:44 < ggreer> also stossel probably carries a gun and a few pounds of precious metal with him wherever he goes
2008-03-14 01:44 < TheWeasel> none of which he has ever been able to use
2008-03-14 01:44 < TheWeasel> much as he'd like to
2008-03-14 01:44 < TheWeasel> to show that it's necessary
2008-03-14 01:45 < Luna-San> Bullets are protected speech under the first amendment, right?
2008-03-14 01:45 < ggreer> TheWeasel: just you wait! one of these days the world economy won't recover and he'll be laughing all the way to the bank!
2008-03-14 01:45 < Demi> when civilization is in the toilet EVERYONE WILL NEED GOLD
2008-03-14 01:45 < TheWeasel> Was that before or after Rapture?
2008-03-14 01:46 < Demi> it'll be just like dungeons and dragons
2008-03-14 01:46 < ggreer> I think stossel is an atheist
2008-03-14 01:46 < TheWeasel> Then it's after Rapture :-P
2008-03-14 01:46 < Demi> and he'll have the most gold pieces. we'll have to assault his tower. The Tower of the Wizard Stossel.
2008-03-14 01:47 < TheWeasel> OMG the tower of Babel is rebuilt in the UAE
2008-03-14 01:47 < TheWeasel> signs of teh times
2008-03-14 01:47 < ggreer> I like how he's a hardcore libertarian but he took advantage of flood insurance
2008-03-14 01:47 < ggreer> (flood insurance is only sold by the government because it always loses money)
2008-03-14 01:47 < ggreer> turns out that the only people who buy flood insurance are people who live in places likely to flood
2008-03-14 01:47 < ggreer> go figure
2008-03-14 01:48 < TheWeasel> He should've built an ark.
2008-03-14 01:49 < ggreer> the house that got flooded was his beach house
2008-03-14 01:49 < Demi> it's actually every libertarian's responsibility to be happily inundated
2008-03-14 01:50 < Demi> of course, libertarians will tell you that people would be perfectly able to deal with disastrous floods if only the government would get out of their way
2008-03-14 01:50 < TheWeasel> "I am a libertarian, and so should you, Sudanese refugee with six kids."
2008-03-14 01:50 < bumm13> heh
2008-03-14 01:51 < TheWeasel> maybe they'll go Marxist and say "In libertarianism, the sea water will behave perfectly rationally."
2008-03-14 01:51 < ggreer> I don't get libertarians. rich western nations can afford to tax rich people and blow all that money on crazy stuff like flood insurance and stealth bombers
2008-03-14 01:51 < ggreer> maybe even some health care
2008-03-14 01:51 < Demi> flood waters will seek the lowest point according to their rational self-interest
2008-03-14 01:52 < TheWeasel> although stealth bombers are way cooler.
2008-03-14 01:52 < ggreer> they are
2008-03-14 01:52 < Demi> libertarians are people who never got beyond the "i'm not touching you! i'm not touching you!" phase of tormenting their brother
2008-03-14 01:52 < TheWeasel> "if you're gonna avoid diking, you're not going to flood."
2008-03-14 01:52 < Demi> one crashed recently, didn't it?
2008-03-14 01:53 < ggreer> Demi: yeah, a B2
2008-03-14 01:53 < Demi> they're kind of expensive to be throwing around
2008-03-14 01:53 < ggreer> I think they cost more than their weight in platinum
2008-03-14 01:53 < Demi> we could build a new shuttle for that
2008-03-14 01:53 < ggreer> around $2 billion each
2008-03-14 01:53 < ggreer> but that includes R&D
2008-03-14 01:54 < ggreer> Unit cost $737 million to $2.2 billion
2008-03-14 01:54 < ggreer> wow
2008-03-14 01:54 < TheWeasel> privatize NASA.
2008-03-14 01:54 < TheWeasel> Write "Coca-Cola" on the moon.
2008-03-14 01:54 < JessicaTaylor> Hello everyone
2008-03-14 01:54 < ggreer> if I had that much money I would buy a million motorcycles for $2,200 each
2008-03-14 01:55 < Demi> i would be frightened to be in control of $2B
2008-03-14 01:55 < Demi> i would probably convert it into pounds so i would be less intimidated
2008-03-14 01:55 < ggreer> actually I'd buy them for $2,000 each and then get $200 million worth of gas to go with them
2008-03-14 01:55 < bumm13> I want my $200,000 Harrier jet ;)
2008-03-14 01:56 < TheWeasel> I guess if one is female, one might think of it as a bigger version of daddy's credit card
2008-03-14 01:56 < ggreer> bumm13: you didn't get enough pepsi points for one?
2008-03-14 01:56 < bumm13> that's what I meant ;)
2008-03-14 01:56 < bumm13> (in cash value)
2008-03-14 01:57 < ggreer> I like the idea of lasers on planes
2008-03-14 01:57 < bumm13> hiya Adam
2008-03-14 01:57 < nokmar> jets only cost 200 k?
2008-03-14 01:57 < bumm13> nokmar: no, they don't
2008-03-14 01:57 < nokmar> aww
2008-03-14 01:57 < nokmar> or else I could buy one =P
2008-03-14 01:57 < bumm13> it's a reference to a lawsuit based on a commercial Pepsi used to show on TV
2008-03-14 01:57 < TheWeasel> it's incomprehensible that people can't defend their private property with Apache helicopters.
2008-03-14 01:57 < ggreer> because then when you refuel the plane you re-arm it
2008-03-14 01:58 < ggreer> since the jet turbine runs a generator
2008-03-14 01:58 < TheWeasel> all that reminds me of Dylan's Talkin' John Birch Society Blues
2008-03-14 01:58 < bumm13> nokmar: where the commercial showed a Harrier jet as a "prize" for having several million Pepsi points
2008-03-14 01:58 < nokmar> why Apache helicopters when you can have heat-seaking machine guns installed in your home
2008-03-14 01:58 < Demi> "Mar 12, 2008 (yesterday)
2008-03-14 01:58 < Demi> U.S. Not Planning To Attack Iran, Says U.S. Iran War Czar"
2008-03-14 01:58 < ggreer> TheWeasel: you probably could, but you'd have to register every round over .50 caliber as a destructive device
2008-03-14 01:58 < nokmar> just make sure you don't go near them
2008-03-14 01:58 < bumm13> so a few guys figured out that that only meant about $200,000 USD for that amount of points in cash value
2008-03-14 01:58 < ggreer> and each DD has a $200 tax
2008-03-14 01:58 < TheWeasel> where he tried to uncover communism everywhere "discovered red stripes on the flag/Betsy Ross!"
2008-03-14 01:59 < bumm13> they split the cost of the points between them and PepsiCo said they couldn't award them a Harrier jet
2008-03-14 01:59 < bumm13> so they sued :-p
2008-03-14 01:59 < ggreer> I wish they got the jet and then crashed it
2008-03-14 01:59 < ggreer> vortex ring state ftl
2008-03-14 01:59 < bumm13> (and settled out of court)
2008-03-14 01:59 < TheWeasel> yea, V/STOL is pretty cool in smaller yards.
2008-03-14 02:00 < Demi> my fantastic notions are so modest
2008-03-14 02:00 < Demi> i have no desire for jets or anything
2008-03-14 02:01 < AdamBishop> hello
2008-03-14 02:01 < ggreer> Demi: what do you want?
2008-03-14 02:01 < bumm13> http://www.mtsu.edu/~lburriss/harrier.html
2008-03-14 02:01 < bumm13> oh dear, the dude was from Seattle
2008-03-14 02:01 < bumm13> (and his friends)
2008-03-14 02:01 * TheWeasel would much rather have a small conventional civil jet aircraft
2008-03-14 02:01 < Demi> enough money to live and travel decently, probably have two or three nice places to live in different countries
2008-03-14 02:01 < TheWeasel> if I had that money
2008-03-14 02:01 < ggreer> TheWeasel: get a mig 21!
2008-03-14 02:01 < ggreer> they're only a couple mil
2008-03-14 02:01 < TheWeasel> That's civil now?
2008-03-14 02:01 < ggreer> and they can go supersonic
2008-03-14 02:01 < Demi> oh, i would like a boat
2008-03-14 02:01 < ggreer> yeah, you can get de-weaponized ones
2008-03-14 02:02 < TheWeasel> they're too loud.
2008-03-14 02:02 < bumm13> "In addition, the fact that Pepsico designated that the plane could be had for 7,000,000 Pepsi Points indicated that the company clearly intended it to be out of the realm of possibility."
2008-03-14 02:02 < ggreer> Demi: you don't need $2 billion for that
2008-03-14 02:02 < Demi> i would probably have the arques school build me a hess yacht, that's around $150k
2008-03-14 02:02 < Demi> no, i don't
2008-03-14 02:02 < Demi> i would probably give it to the bill and melinda gates foundation
2008-03-14 02:02 < Demi> or endow a university or something
2008-03-14 02:03 < Demi> oh, some of those aston martin cars are nice
2008-03-14 02:03 < ggreer> I'd buy some nukes from a random former eastern bloc country, then celebrate the 4th of july in some unpopulated region of north dakota
2008-03-14 02:03 * TheWeasel would rather have a BMW
2008-03-14 02:03 < Demi> hehe
2008-03-14 02:03 < ggreer> TheWeasel: get a lotus elise
2008-03-14 02:03 < bumm13> "Since the cost of a Harrier Jet is about $23 million, an objective, reasonable person would conclude that purchasing it for $700,000 'is a deal too good to be true.'" <--- isn't that still false advertising?
2008-03-14 02:03 < TheWeasel> hm
2008-03-14 02:03 < TheWeasel> A car park full of Bond cars?
2008-03-14 02:04 < TheWeasel> plus/minus the gadgetry
2008-03-14 02:04 < TheWeasel> including the racing gondola
2008-03-14 02:04 < bumm13> the law comes down on people for much smaller amounts over the "deal too good to be true" matter
2008-03-14 02:04 < ggreer> TheWeasel: one of the bond cars would be a stock ford mondeo. casino royale had bond drive one
2008-03-14 02:05 < TheWeasel> nothing wrong with that
2008-03-14 02:05 * TheWeasel recently wrecked his car but good
2008-03-14 02:05 < bumm13> (hmm, he sued over breach of contract, which is silly)
2008-03-14 02:05 < ggreer> TheWeasel: what kind of car was it?
2008-03-14 02:06 < TheWeasel> Small.
2008-03-14 02:06 < TheWeasel> but it costs loads to repair :-/
2008-03-14 02:06 < ggreer> a peel p-50?
2008-03-14 02:06 < ggreer> oh, so you didn't total it
2008-03-14 02:06 < TheWeasel> Not quite so small
2008-03-14 02:06 < ggreer> also small is such a relative term
2008-03-14 02:06 < TheWeasel> I spose
2008-03-14 02:06 < TheWeasel> brb
2008-03-14 02:07 < ggreer> was it a sports car?
2008-03-14 02:07 < TheWeasel> no
2008-03-14 02:08 < TheWeasel> I give you a hint, the rear window fell out
2008-03-14 02:08 < ggreer> ?
2008-03-14 02:08 < TheWeasel> so it was a car that has that quite far to the back
2008-03-14 02:08 < ggreer> a golf hatchback?
2008-03-14 02:08 < TheWeasel> nevermind
2008-03-14 02:08 < TheWeasel> close
2008-03-14 02:08 < ggreer> scion XB?
2008-03-14 02:08 < TheWeasel> City car class.
2008-03-14 02:08 < ggreer> smart car?
2008-03-14 02:09 < TheWeasel> no, dont have that kind of money
2008-03-14 02:09 < ggreer> I am in the US. nobody drives "city cars" here
2008-03-14 02:09 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-03-14 02:09 < TheWeasel> I figured.
2008-03-14 02:09 < TheWeasel> All classes are one-down from Europe too