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2008-03-13 05:25 < bumm13> Arthur Kill (?)
2008-03-13 05:25 < TheWeasel> "...from the I-8 freeway one can spot a line painted on a water tower proudly marking "Sea Level.""
2008-03-13 05:25 < TheWeasel> the things people derive pride from...
2008-03-13 05:25 < bumm13> there is no I-8 in NJ
2008-03-13 05:25 < TheWeasel> I'm dealing with El Centro, CA now
2008-03-13 05:25 < bumm13> oh ok
2008-03-13 05:25 < bumm13> yeah, I-8
2008-03-13 05:26 < bumm13> that's in the middle of a large agricultural area
2008-03-13 05:26 < bumm13> the Imperial Valley of CA
2008-03-13 05:26 < bumm13> I've never been there, myself
2008-03-13 05:26 < bumm13> speaking of that area and failed tourism, that's where the Salton Sea is
2008-03-13 05:27 < TheWeasel> but they're proud to be zero ASL
2008-03-13 05:28 < TheWeasel> anyway, need to get lunch
2008-03-13 05:29 < bumm13> they tried to make the Salton Sea a resort area in the 1950s
2008-03-13 05:32 < AdamBishop> hmm, it appears I need to feed the baby
2008-03-13 05:50 < Lubaf> I was going to suggest feeding the baby arsenic, but since AdamBishop isn't here, it'd be pointless.
2008-03-13 05:51 < ST47> If anyone hasn't already checked their account using the SUL demo on test.wikimedia, there's now a demo live on en.wp [[Special:MergeAccount]]
2008-03-13 06:11 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: Are you there?
2008-03-13 06:11 < TheWeasel> Sort of.
2008-03-13 06:11 < Mike_H> WTSP, "Tampa Bay's 10" is a CBS-affiliate television station on the west coast of Florida (Tampa?St. Petersburg DMA 13). It broadcasts its analog signal on VHF channel 10, and its digital signal on UHF channel 24. Its transmitter is located in Holiday, Florida.
2008-03-13 06:11 < TheWeasel> Not officially
2008-03-13 06:12 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-03-13 06:12 < Mike_H> I work for them now
2008-03-13 06:12 < Mike_H> :DDDD
2008-03-13 06:12 < TheWeasel> congrats :-)
2008-03-13 06:19 < bumm13> TheWeasel: want to hear more about the Salton Sea?
2008-03-13 06:25 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-03-13 06:39 * Lycurgus bumps into bumm13
2008-03-13 06:43 * brown_cat bumps into Lycurgus
2008-03-13 06:45 < Lycurgus> I have the same login at english wp, wiktionary and commons. Does this mean if I login to one I'm logged into all now?
2008-03-13 06:46 * Lycurgus steps on brown cats tail. Oh sorry pus pus!
2008-03-13 06:47 < Lycurgus> *puss puss
2008-03-13 06:50 < p858snake> nope they all run seperate databases
2008-03-13 06:50 < Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
2008-03-13 06:51 < Lycurgus> 06:50 < ST47> If anyone hasn't already checked their account using the SUL demo on test.wikimedia, there's now a demo live on en.wp [[Special:MergeAccount]]
2008-03-13 06:52 < Lycurgus> in another part of the forest: "Oral Sex And Pot Linked To Cancer" - CBS News
2008-03-13 07:02 < bumm13> hiya Aqwis
2008-03-13 07:03 < Aqwis> hello
2008-03-13 07:11 < Lycurgus> is your last name "Communitaire"?
2008-03-13 07:18 < Leslie_S> Ketchup (or less commonly catsup), also known as Tomato Ketchup, Tomato Sauce, Red Sauce, Tommy Sauce, Tommy K, or Dead Horse,[1] is a condiment, usually made from tomatoes.
2008-03-13 07:18 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-03-13 07:19 < Kamping_Kaiser> whats the [1]?
2008-03-13 07:19 < Kamping_Kaiser> [1] only to those bloody aussies
2008-03-13 07:19 < Kamping_Kaiser> ?
2008-03-13 07:22 < User2> anyone here?
2008-03-13 07:22 < Werdna> No.
2008-03-13 07:22 < E_Wing> Dead Horse?
2008-03-13 07:22 < Kamping_Kaiser> E_Wing, rythming slang for tomato sause
2008-03-13 07:22 < User2> recently made an edit to WP but it doesn't quite format right - need some help in getting the title on it etc.
2008-03-13 07:22 < E_Wing> Ah
2008-03-13 07:22 < User2> page HijackThis (edit is on top) - how do i do this?
2008-03-13 07:23 < E_Wing> I thought someone vandalized it
2008-03-13 07:23 < Werdna> let me take a look
2008-03-13 07:23 < User2> the stuff surrounded by asterisks i would make the title i guess
2008-03-13 07:23 < User2> vandalized?
2008-03-13 07:23 < User2> i added a warning to new HJT users so they wont foul up their systems!
2008-03-13 07:24 < Werdna> yes, not the sort of stuff that should really be in an article.
2008-03-13 07:24 < Werdna> It's not vandalism, certainly.
2008-03-13 07:24 < User2> hmm, my edit disappeared
2008-03-13 07:24 < User2> not sure where else to put this - might be where new ppl come for info and seems prudent to warn them
2008-03-13 07:25 < Werdna> Wikipedia isn't usually about providing advice - we typically tend to be providing a detached, third-party view.
2008-03-13 07:25 < User2> got the edit back from history but still not sure how to fix title, and possibly how to make it more WP like?
2008-03-13 07:25 < Werdna> Wikipedia is, first and foremost, an encyclopedia.
2008-03-13 07:25 < Aqwis> if we were an encyclopaedia we wouldn't have lists of pokemons
2008-03-13 07:25 < User2> hmm
2008-03-13 07:25 < Aqwis> fortunately, we are not an encylopaedia
2008-03-13 07:26 < Werdna> Aqwis: You can have pokemon in an encyclopedia.
2008-03-13 07:26 < Aqwis> pffft
2008-03-13 07:26 < Werdna> It's about the tone, and the purpose. Not necessarily the content.
2008-03-13 07:26 < Aqwis> that was not the point, anyway
2008-03-13 07:26 < User2> should i rewrite this to have a better tone to it?
2008-03-13 07:26 < Werdna> User2: Anyway, we do have such a warning in there.
2008-03-13 07:26 < User2> maybe not address the user?
2008-03-13 07:27 < Werdna> User2: right. I'm making a change that you might find helpful. Hold on.
2008-03-13 07:27 < User2> i just was browsing the article and remembered being 1 click away from wiping out my whole comp by checking every box, thinking this was like adaware etc.
2008-03-13 07:27 < User2> ok
2008-03-13 07:27 < User2> didnt want others doing this, i lucked out in that one of the help forums told me to STOP and post logs
2008-03-13 07:27 < Werdna> User2: do you know a website that tells you not to do that?
2008-03-13 07:28 < Werdna> preferably the hijackthis website
2008-03-13 07:28 < User2> hmm
2008-03-13 07:28 < Werdna> or a website that's well-known, or reliable.
2008-03-13 07:28 < User2> not off the top of my head
2008-03-13 07:28 < User2> i know sites that say post your logs
2008-03-13 07:29 < User2> looking for something to cite?
2008-03-13 07:29 * bumm13 sits on User2
2008-03-13 07:29 < User2> possibly cite it as general knowledge of the program among HJT forums?
2008-03-13 07:29 < User2> * moves out from under bumm13
2008-03-13 07:30 < Werdna> User2: I've got a citation now
2008-03-13 07:30 < User2> what causes edits t ostick anyway?
2008-03-13 07:30 < User2> seems i always get reverted when i make useful edits
2008-03-13 07:31 < Werdna> We are aware that Wikipedia is not always as easy as "just edit it"
2008-03-13 07:31 < Werdna> User2: can you see the changes that I made?
2008-03-13 07:31 < User2> like placing the deletion template on the AFD page (figured it would be useful to see what it is) - and someone got mad at me for trying to get AFD deleted (never my intent!) - i always seem to be misconstruded : /
2008-03-13 07:31 < User2> misconstrued*
2008-03-13 07:32 < Werdna> yes, we have very particular ways of doing things, and it's not always obvious to other people. Often, people act like it is, or should be.
2008-03-13 07:32 < User2> or adding something liek this, which someone just blanked off instead of fixing like you are (ty ^_^ ) - while we were talking
2008-03-13 07:32 < Werdna> Do you mind if I get rid of what you wrote, seeing as I bolded that text, reworded it, and cited it?
2008-03-13 07:32 < User2> no prob
2008-03-13 07:33 < User2> i have no objections to someone improving what i do, it probably needs it lol, just tired of getting reverted constantly : /
2008-03-13 07:33 < User2> is it better not to edit if i dont have al lthe style stuff down?
2008-03-13 07:34 < User2> found be bold and IAR and such and figured id jump in
2008-03-13 07:34 < User2> seems to result in reverts and blocks ;(
2008-03-13 07:34 < Werdna> well yes, that's how wikipedia tends to operate, unfortunately
2008-03-13 07:34 < Werdna> brb
2008-03-13 07:35 < User2> ty for the edit btw, looks much better and still gets the point through :)
2008-03-13 07:36 < User2> btw do templates do thing automatically?
2008-03-13 07:36 < User2> i think that may have been a source of a block if so >_<
2008-03-13 07:36 < User2> ie if i placed featured article template on featured article (illustratively) - would i wind up actualyl featuring it?
2008-03-13 07:37 < User2> or if i place speedy deletion on speedy deletion page would i be trying to delete the page about speedy deletion?
2008-03-13 07:37 < User2> or are they, as i presume, just visual?
2008-03-13 07:43 < Leslie_S> As described by Peter and Will Brooker, "In three significant moments Vincent retires to the bathroom [and] returns to an utterly changed world where death is threatened."[173]
2008-03-13 07:43 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-03-13 07:44 < Spliff> Hello
2008-03-13 08:00 < Leslie_S> omg, we have an article about jared
2008-03-13 08:00 < Leslie_S> lol
2008-03-13 08:01 < Leslie_S> theres a big cardboard jared at the subway at work
2008-03-13 08:01 < Leslie_S> ;/
2008-03-13 08:02 < Manticore> ohai Riana
2008-03-13 08:02 < Kamping_Kaiser> jared?
2008-03-13 08:02 < Riana> ohai Manticore :3
2008-03-13 08:02 < Leslie_S> [[Jared Fogle]]
2008-03-13 08:02 < Leslie_S> That guy.
2008-03-13 08:02 < bumm13> ohio
2008-03-13 08:03 < Leslie_S> I don't see how people can eat at subway, to be honest.
2008-03-13 08:03 < Spliff> I hate subway
2008-03-13 08:04 * Kamping_Kaiser wonders why people put [[links]] into this chan -is there a script i'm not aware of?
2008-03-13 08:04 < Leslie_S> The subways in my locality have like ....a 90% month-to-date employee turnover.
2008-03-13 08:04 < Spliff> Kamping_Kaiser, there is
2008-03-13 08:04 < Spliff> :)
2008-03-13 08:04 < Leslie_S> Kamping_Kaiser yes.
2008-03-13 08:04 < Leslie_S> anyway
2008-03-13 08:04 < Kamping_Kaiser> :)
2008-03-13 08:04 < Leslie_S> so the owner fires people by the time they ever learn how to do their job well
2008-03-13 08:04 < Spliff> Kamping_Kaiser, what's your IRC client?
2008-03-13 08:04 < Leslie_S> so nobody ever knows what theyre doing
2008-03-13 08:04 < Kamping_Kaiser> Spliff, xchat at home, irssi at work
2008-03-13 08:04 < Spliff> hmm
2008-03-13 08:04 < Leslie_S> now, its not totally his fault...some of these people are genuinely morons, lazy, etc, but some of them are being accused of the stupidest stuff
2008-03-13 08:04 < Leslie_S> like stealing 7c from the register.
2008-03-13 08:05 < Spliff> Kamping_Kaiser
2008-03-13 08:05 < Spliff> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Scripts/Script_for_X-chat
2008-03-13 08:05 < Spliff> for you
2008-03-13 08:05 < Spliff> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SCRIPT#Irssi
2008-03-13 08:05 < Spliff> for irssi
2008-03-13 08:05 < Kamping_Kaiser> Spliff, thanks mate
2008-03-13 08:05 < Leslie_S> anyway, ive gotta go.
2008-03-13 08:05 < Leslie_S> bye
2008-03-13 08:05 < Spliff> toodles
2008-03-13 08:05 < Spliff> <3
2008-03-13 08:05 < Kamping_Kaiser> later mate :)
2008-03-13 08:21 < zocky> <<My logic may be failing me, but how can a star travel 13 light years in 30,000 years? Is this a mistake, or am I just not thinking right?>>
2008-03-13 08:21 < zocky> i can't even begin to understand that question
2008-03-13 08:24 < bumm13> heh
2008-03-13 08:24 < bumm13> he's just not thinking right ;)
2008-03-13 08:24 < zocky> <<The BBC has issued a fix to stop people downloading programmes from the iPlayer website that were intended for streaming only. Hackers had discovered an exploit that allowed them to save the programmes to hard disk and share them with others.>>
2008-03-13 08:25 < bumm13> zomg
2008-03-13 08:25 < zocky> so, if you want to prevent yourself from saving the downloaded videos on your hard disk, you install the new fix?
2008-03-13 08:25 < bumm13> I think it's just worded wrong
2008-03-13 08:26 < bumm13> they patched their own software or whatever
2008-03-13 08:26 < zocky> anyways, if you're streaming video to someone's computer, you have no way to completely stop them from saving it
2008-03-13 08:27 < kenlyric> somebody has invented a way to shock people over the internet. New internet golden age: http://www.mindwire-v5.com/home.html
2008-03-13 08:28 < bumm13> I wouldn't think so
2008-03-13 08:28 < bumm13> it's all just how good the obfuscation is
2008-03-13 08:31 < E_Wing> Can somebody tell me the definition of "twat"?
2008-03-13 08:32 < bumm13> :s
2008-03-13 08:32 < zocky> like twit, but with an a
2008-03-13 08:33 < bumm13> it can just be a perjorative word in the "annoying idiot" sense
2008-03-13 08:33 < bumm13> or literally refer to female genitalia :P
2008-03-13 08:33 < kenlyric> if only there was a place you could look these things up. I'd call it google
2008-03-13 08:33 < E_Wing> Ah thanks for the info
2008-03-13 08:34 < Jonny88> Hi, I would greatly appreciate it if anybody could give advice on writting the 'Naked Lunch' article on its talk page. I'm currently looking to get GA status but not too experianced. I know that the 'characters' section is weak.
2008-03-13 08:34 < E_Wing> Its just somebody called an editor a "twat"
2008-03-13 08:34 < bumm13> then the former definition applies
2008-03-13 08:34 < zocky> E_Wing, sticks and stones can break my bones, etc.
2008-03-13 08:35 < E_Wing> Just reverted it and gave that user a vandal warning
2008-03-13 08:35 < E_Wing> Probably that user's ip got blocked by that editor
2008-03-13 08:35 < Jonny88> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twat
2008-03-13 08:35 < zocky> E_Wing, the best thing to do in those cases is to stay out of it
2008-03-13 08:38 < zocky> E_Wing, ah, just a drive-by IP silliness
2008-03-13 08:39 < zocky> E_Wing, if you ask me, it's best to stay ot of those too. you accomplish nothing by worrying about those and trying to fix them, other than wasting your time.
2008-03-13 08:40 < Triomphe> hey, does someone know how to build mods for wikipedia?
2008-03-13 08:40 < zocky> Triomphe, what?
2008-03-13 08:40 < zocky> if you mean extensions for mediawiki, #mediawiki is thataway
2008-03-13 08:41 < Triomphe> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wikipedia/ build a MOD for this system
2008-03-13 08:41 < Triomphe> oh, sorry my bad
2008-03-13 08:45 < Lycurgus> "MOD"? as in gamer implementations lingo?
2008-03-13 08:45 < TheWeasel> heh...someone mistranslating "dès de" as "as of"
2008-03-13 08:46 < TheWeasel> it makes us look 30 years old in this case
2008-03-13 08:46 < Lycurgus> wieso?
2008-03-13 08:47 < TheWeasel> just a guess of mine that that was meant
2008-03-13 08:47 < TheWeasel> in the sentence "He is married to the singer Françoise Hardy, as of March 30, 1981..."
2008-03-13 08:49 < TheWeasel> I was just looking up things mentioned in "Vesoul" by Jacques Brel
2008-03-13 08:53 < Lycurgus> I think this is about my conception day. I wonder if right-to-lifers have a word for that.
2008-03-13 08:54 < Lycurgus> mehbe "little bang" or sumthin
2008-03-13 08:58 < Pilotguy> w00t!!!!!!!
2008-03-13 08:58 < brown_cat> leaving in 5
2008-03-13 08:58 < brown_cat> 4
2008-03-13 08:59 < brown_cat> 3
2008-03-13 08:59 < brown_cat> 2
2008-03-13 08:59 < brown_cat> 1
2008-03-13 08:59 < AAA^> brown_cat!
2008-03-13 08:59 < AAA^> dammit
2008-03-13 09:02 < quanticle> AAA^: You were too late to stop the countdown
2008-03-13 09:02 < AAA^> yeah yeah
2008-03-13 09:03 < Cyrius> should have just cut the red wire in the first place
2008-03-13 09:03 < Spliffy> C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
2008-03-13 09:04 < quanticle> Spliffy: Yeah. His C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! failed.
2008-03-13 09:06 < CharlotteWebb> anybody know how to get the bloody archival bot to work
2008-03-13 09:06 < Spliffy> Okay
2008-03-13 09:06 < Spliffy> good day everyone
2008-03-13 09:07 < Spliffy> 5
2008-03-13 09:07 < Spliffy> 4
2008-03-13 09:07 < Spliffy> 3
2008-03-13 09:07 < Spliffy> 2
2008-03-13 09:07 < Spliffy> 1
2008-03-13 09:07 < Spliffy> 0
2008-03-13 09:07 < AAA^> a fact:
2008-03-13 09:07 < AAA^> spliffy was that w00t troll
2008-03-13 09:08 < AAA^> meh
2008-03-13 09:30 < E_Wing> Too hot today
2008-03-13 09:33 * Hildanknight wonders if anyone is in the mood to do a couple of peer reviews.
2008-03-13 09:33 < Miranda> Hildanknight: here's a suggestion
2008-03-13 09:34 < Miranda> why don't you make an announcement on your userpage and talk page, announcing that you want peer reviews done on X, Y, Z articles
2008-03-13 09:34 < Miranda> and you won't have to bring up the issue on IRC every day?
2008-03-13 09:34 < Hildanknight> Not many read/watchlist my user and talk pages, I'm afraid. :(
2008-03-13 09:35 < Miranda> well try...
2008-03-13 09:35 < NotACow> Miranda: hey, at least Hildanknight is trying to improve the encyclopedia
2008-03-13 09:35 < NotACow> Miranda: so go stuff yourself.
2008-03-13 09:36 < Lycurgus> girlfight!
2008-03-13 09:36 < Hildanknight> NotACow: Thanks. Perhaps you'd like to give your feedback at the peer reviews? I'll post the links if you say yes.
2008-03-13 09:37 < NotACow> Hildanknight: i'm not really in the mood for it
2008-03-13 09:37 < Miranda> Lycurgus: nah, not really, I wouldn't want to waste my time
2008-03-13 09:37 < NotACow> Hildanknight: i'm currently reviewing highly trafficked articles and that is consuming most of my desire to review content.
2008-03-13 09:37 < NotACow> Hildanknight: i doubt any of your articles are highly trafficked :)
2008-03-13 09:37 < Hildanknight> My articles are not highly trafficked. :)
2008-03-13 09:38 < Lycurgus> (translation: "I don't want no ass-whoppin")
2008-03-13 09:38 * NotACow needs to finish her review of [[Wikipedia]]
2008-03-13 09:38 < Lycurgus> *whoopin
2008-03-13 10:13 * TheWeasel is highly Selassie
2008-03-13 10:14 * TheWeasel convicts Hildaknight of article-trafficking in a case of extenuatingly minor severity
2008-03-13 11:18 < TheWeasel> From 1940 on, the Kazakh SSR used Comic Sans in its flag!
2008-03-13 11:18 < TheWeasel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Qazaq_SSR_40-53.svg
2008-03-13 11:19 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Comic Sans Cyrillic? That's a new one...
2008-03-13 11:19 < TheWeasel> I thought so as well.
2008-03-13 11:19 < TheWeasel> But such is the way of Wikipedia
2008-03-13 11:19 < TheWeasel> "The flag is now closely resembled by Flag of Transnistria."
2008-03-13 11:19 < TheWeasel> can "resemble" be in the passive voice?
2008-03-13 11:20 < quanticle> I think so, but I'd change it on general principle of avoiding passive voice.
2008-03-13 11:20 < TheWeasel> It looks odd.
2008-03-13 11:23 < quanticle> Passive voice?
2008-03-13 11:23 < TheWeasel> "being resembled by"
2008-03-13 11:23 < TheWeasel> never seen that
2008-03-13 11:23 < TheWeasel> but oh well :-)
2008-03-13 11:24 < quanticle> Yeah. Its grammatically correct, but no one I've ever heard speaks like that.
2008-03-13 11:25 < TheWeasel> Is that grounds for changing it?
2008-03-13 11:26 * TheWeasel will just add "the"
2008-03-13 11:26 < TheWeasel> maybe it has a common passive voice in Russian
2008-03-13 11:26 < TheWeasel> it doesn't in German either
2008-03-13 11:28 < quanticle> I'd change it. I'd put in "edited for sentence flow" as my justification.
2008-03-13 11:28 < Lycurgus> it's wrong
2008-03-13 11:28 < Lycurgus> should be "closely resembles that of X"
2008-03-13 11:28 < TheWeasel> okay
2008-03-13 11:29 < TheWeasel> "the current flag of X"
2008-03-13 11:29 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-03-13 11:29 < quanticle> Really? Huh. I thought it was just weird, but not incorrect...
2008-03-13 11:30 < Lycurgus> there are some advantages to having been an English monoglot
2008-03-13 11:30 < TheWeasel> "The flag closely resembles the current [[Flag of Transnistria]]." is the new wording
2008-03-13 11:30 < Lycurgus> and yes, that's a dead giveaway for an non-native speaker of English
2008-03-13 11:31 < quanticle> Lycurgus: That's what I was thinking too. Only a non-native speaker would use this sort of grammatical structure...
2008-03-13 11:32 < Lycurgus> if they would just call off the other germanic langs I could drop Nederlans and Hochdeutsch :)
2008-03-13 11:32 < TheWeasel> It's obviously possible in Russian, the writer characteristically left out even the definite article
2008-03-13 11:32 < Lycurgus> though I just love the way Nederlands sounds
2008-03-13 11:33 < Lycurgus> like you were gonna cover your audience with spittle
2008-03-13 11:34 < TheWeasel> You know something is badly translated from Dutch to German when it uses the word "belangreich" for "important" ("wichtig" in German)
2008-03-13 11:35 < TheWeasel> I don't know if crappy Dutch translators write "belongful" in English
2008-03-13 11:35 < TheWeasel> (Dutch word is "belangrijk")
2008-03-13 11:35 < Lycurgus> prolly not, they usually speak better english than germans
2008-03-13 11:35 < Lycurgus> dutch is closer to english after all
2008-03-13 11:36 < Lycurgus> slightly
2008-03-13 11:37 < TheWeasel> Well, any language other than English can be glad nowadays if it has any second-language speakers *at all*
2008-03-13 11:37 < Lycurgus> closer than german to english. Dutch is closer to german though than it is to english.
2008-03-13 11:37 < Lycurgus> oh that's not so.
2008-03-13 11:37 < TheWeasel> Russian maybe.
2008-03-13 11:37 < Lycurgus> French, Cantonese, Mandarin all have a lot of second speakers.
2008-03-13 11:37 < TheWeasel> but rapidly fading.
2008-03-13 11:38 < Lycurgus> Hindi, etc.
2008-03-13 11:38 < TheWeasel> Well, internationally I mean
2008-03-13 11:38 < TheWeasel> true foreign languages
2008-03-13 11:38 < Krimpet> use of Spanish is growing in the USA, to the point where it's getting more and more important to learn it
2008-03-13 11:38 < TheWeasel> French and Russian are rapidly receding
2008-03-13 11:38 < TheWeasel> Oh yea, good point.
2008-03-13 11:38 < Lycurgus> I think you mean on a growing basis. Maybe American Foreign Policy can put a halt to that.
2008-03-13 11:39 < TheWeasel> Who learns Latin nowadays?
2008-03-13 11:39 * Arwen raises hand
2008-03-13 11:39 < quanticle> Lycurgus: Hmm, what do you mean? How can US foreign policy bring back the French language?
2008-03-13 11:39 < Arwen> it lets you be a prig
2008-03-13 11:39 < TheWeasel> we need to make Latin the new English!
2008-03-13 11:39 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Latin: Because English is broken.
2008-03-13 11:40 < Mole2> Oops: I just discovered that my real name and phone number is one click away from ALL pages at the Swedish Wikipedia...
2008-03-13 11:40 < TheWeasel> Latin: 'Cause Tempora Mutantur
2008-03-13 11:40 < Lycurgus> dead languages like Attic Greek, Sanskrit and Latin are attractive because you don't have to content with native speakers.
2008-03-13 11:40 < Lycurgus> *contend
2008-03-13 11:40 < quanticle> Yeah. That's true.
2008-03-13 11:40 < TheWeasel> Except some weird cardinals.
2008-03-13 11:40 < Mole2> Lycurgus: Thus all suck at the dead language and there are no good movies done in the dead languages...
2008-03-13 11:41 < TheWeasel> Passion of the Christ?
2008-03-13 11:41 < Lycurgus> aramaic isn't completely dead.
2008-03-13 11:41 < Mole2> TheWeasel: Well, according to my friends (who some of them are fanatic christians) that movie sucked so hard that I didn't bother to go see it.
2008-03-13 11:41 < Lycurgus> just relatively few remaining speakers
2008-03-13 11:41 < TheWeasel> Okay, Jerry Bruckheimer movies aren't translated into Sumeric.
2008-03-13 11:42 < TheWeasel> I think that was a wise choice.
2008-03-13 11:42 < Lycurgus> still in the many thousands though IIRC
2008-03-13 11:43 < Mole2> TheWeasel: Yeah, I don't enjoy to watch a man being tortured on the big screen for 2-3 hours. I already know the story, no need to rub it in.
2008-03-13 11:43 < Cyrius> religious torture porn
2008-03-13 11:43 < Mole2> Cyrius: Yeah, perhaps.
2008-03-13 11:43 < Cyrius> like Saw, but acceptable because it's Jesus
2008-03-13 11:43 < Mole2> Cyrius: Ouch, you got a point there.
2008-03-13 11:44 * Cyrius has never actually seen either
2008-03-13 11:44 < TheWeasel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tevfik_Esen%C3%A7 Saddd...
2008-03-13 11:44 < TheWeasel> I guess the great Ubykh revival will have to wait.
2008-03-13 11:45 < Mole2> Well, as I see it the gist of the message Jesus had was "help build a heaven on earth". So I think that Jesue would like us working on Wikipedia, not make scary movies about his torture.
2008-03-13 11:45 < Mole2> *Jesus
2008-03-13 11:45 < Mole2> He, come to think of it, editing Wikipedia is a very "christian" thing. :)
2008-03-13 11:45 < TheWeasel> JEWS DID INRI
2008-03-13 11:46 < TheWeasel> seems to be the message of it.
2008-03-13 11:46 < Mole2> TheWeasel: What is "inri"?
2008-03-13 11:46 < TheWeasel> Iesus Nacarenus, Rex Iudaeorum
2008-03-13 11:46 < TheWeasel> Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews
2008-03-13 11:46 < Mole2> Silly me: [[INRI]]
2008-03-13 11:47 < Mole2> I am still not entirely used to first ask Wikipedia before I ask people.
2008-03-13 11:47 < Mole2> Goes to prove how old I am.
2008-03-13 11:48 < quanticle> Mole2: And how is editing Wikipedia a "Christian" activity, other than it being a form of charitable work?
2008-03-13 11:48 < TheWeasel> that's like saying "how is milk white, other than with respect to its colour"?
2008-03-13 11:48 < Mole2> quanticle: Right, it is a good charitable work. Which many other religions recommend doing to. So I didn't mean to exclude any other religion.
2008-03-13 11:50 < quanticle> TheWeasel: I was trying to see if there were any other Christian beliefs that were fulfilled by editing Wikipedia.
2008-03-13 11:50 < NotACow> quanticle: editing wikipedia makes you a christian? wow, now i'm really glad i quit!
2008-03-13 11:50 < TheWeasel> Crusading?
2008-03-13 11:50 < TheWeasel> :-D
2008-03-13 11:50 < Sfan00> Mole2: The Islamic faith has a duty to explore and explain Allah's creation do they not?
2008-03-13 11:50 < Lycurgus> Mole2: how old are you?
2008-03-13 11:51 < Mole2> Sfan00: Sorry, I don't know much about Islamic faith.
2008-03-13 11:51 * NotACow just posted her critique of [[Wikipedia]] :)
2008-03-13 11:51 < TheWeasel> "Many local, prepositional, and other functions are provided by preverbal elements providing a large series of applicatives, and it is in this that Ubykh is hideously complex."
2008-03-13 11:51 < TheWeasel> HIDEOUS, I SAY
2008-03-13 11:51 < Mole2> NotACow: No, it doesn't make you a christian, but it is a "good thing" (TM).
2008-03-13 11:52 < Mole2> Lycurgus: I started programming computers in 1982. I am 38 years old.
2008-03-13 11:52 < NotACow> Mole2: i'm not convinced of that :)
2008-03-13 11:52 < NotACow> Mole2: 1982? newbie!
2008-03-13 11:52 < TheWeasel> "Gender only appears as part of the second person paradigm, and then only at the speaker's discretion."
2008-03-13 11:52 < TheWeasel> Oh, a librul language
2008-03-13 11:52 < Sfan00> Mole2: If you stared programming in 1982 what languge did you use?
2008-03-13 11:52 < TheWeasel> messing with god's borders
2008-03-13 11:52 < Mole2> NotACow: Haha! :)) Yeah, I started with a "high level languag": BASIC. Didn't need to use punchcards etc.
2008-03-13 11:52 < TheWeasel> and making people decide stuff
2008-03-13 11:52 < Sfan00> BASIC ? Pah....
2008-03-13 11:53 < Lycurgus> pfft: I started programming in '74. NotACow where is your critique.
2008-03-13 11:53 < NotACow> Mole2: heh, you too, eh?
2008-03-13 11:53 < Mole2> Well, actually the first programming language I used was to program my bigger sisters TI57 calculator. Kind of assembler like.
2008-03-13 11:53 < NotACow> 1978 for me. but i was 9 then.
2008-03-13 11:53 < zocky> ooh, I'm not in top 3 oldest geezers in the channel?
2008-03-13 11:53 * zocky feels so youthful suddenly
2008-03-13 11:53 < TheWeasel> I started programming last year. I charge people "pro gram"
2008-03-13 11:53 < Mole2> zocky: How old are you?
2008-03-13 11:53 < NotACow> i did fiddle a bit with some HP thingy back in 1974
2008-03-13 11:54 < Mole2> TheWeasel: Haha! :)
2008-03-13 11:54 < NotACow> possibly 1973
2008-03-13 11:54 < zocky> Mole2, 34, started programming in 1984
2008-03-13 11:54 < Lycurgus> (well at least I was a teen, barely)
2008-03-13 11:54 < Sfan00> I started programing in 1988
2008-03-13 11:54 < Sfan00> Somewhat late
2008-03-13 11:54 < NotACow> Lycurgus: my blog, of course
2008-03-13 11:54 < Sfan00> :(
2008-03-13 11:54 < Mole2> zocky: Ah ok. So at least you are an old computer geek then. :)
2008-03-13 11:54 < Mole2> NotACow: Okay, you are the oldie then! :)
2008-03-13 11:54 < Lycurgus> in '88 I was working on OS/2 at IBM
2008-03-13 11:54 < Sfan00> 34 is old?
2008-03-13 11:54 * TheWeasel has never programmed in his life unless beaten to it (which happened)
2008-03-13 11:54 < Sfan00> Lycurgus: OS/2
2008-03-13 11:54 < TheWeasel> and even then I had no clue at all wtf I was doing
2008-03-13 11:55 < NotACow> http://nonbovine-ruminations.blogspot.com/2008/03/wikipedia-quality-wikipedia.html
2008-03-13 11:55 < Sfan00> Lycurgus: <me laughs at Os/2)
2008-03-13 11:55 < NotACow> Mole2: yeah, quite possibly.
2008-03-13 11:55 < TheWeasel> I think I should seek a job at Microsoft's browser department
2008-03-13 11:55 < Mole2> Sfan00: Zocky is an old computer as in he has used computers for a long time.
2008-03-13 11:55 < NotACow> Mole2: i bet lycurgus is older, though
2008-03-13 11:55 < Lycurgus> <- 54.
2008-03-13 11:55 < Lycurgus> (fairly recent pic on my user page)
2008-03-13 11:55 < Mole2> * Sfan00: Zocky is an old computer geek as in he has used computers for a long time.
2008-03-13 11:56 < tawker> ok, I don't see how that automagically makes someone a geek
2008-03-13 11:56 < tawker> but hey
2008-03-13 11:56 * TheWeasel is the one non-programmer on the internet you may have heard rumours about
2008-03-13 11:56 < NotACow> Lycurgus: yay! i'm not the channel dean today!
2008-03-13 11:56 < Mole2> Lycurgus: At least you are younger than several of my friends. One of my friends is around 70 and he still dances the jitterbug every month.
2008-03-13 11:56 * NotACow is quite frequently the dean of the channel.
2008-03-13 11:56 < Lycurgus> 70
2008-03-13 11:56 < Lycurgus> is too young for jitterbug
2008-03-13 11:57 < NotACow> hehe, really
2008-03-13 11:57 < NotACow> 80 minimum for that stuff
2008-03-13 11:57 < Mole2> Lycurgus: Eh?
2008-03-13 11:57 < Lycurgus> wait maybe not
2008-03-13 11:57 < TheWeasel> Well, judging from Mulholland Drive...
2008-03-13 11:57 < Lycurgus> yeah, unles the were a jitterbugging toddler
2008-03-13 11:57 < Lycurgus> *unless
2008-03-13 11:57 * Mole2 ponders if he should bring up some URLs to jitterbug videos on you tube to show how atlethic it can be...
2008-03-13 11:58 < Lycurgus> oh yeah, swing was like break
2008-03-13 11:58 < Lycurgus> dancing
2008-03-13 11:58 < NotACow> the jitterbug was in fashion from the late 30s until the early 50s
2008-03-13 11:58 < Mole2> Right, both of you.
2008-03-13 11:58 < Fabexplosive> hello
2008-03-13 11:58 < NotACow> so a 70 yo might well have jitterbugged in his or her youth
2008-03-13 11:58 < Mole2> Well, actually jitterbug started around 1927 or so.
2008-03-13 11:59 < NotACow> the 50s peak was a sort of retro type of thing
2008-03-13 11:59 < Mole2> But yeah, became high fashion some years into the 30's.
2008-03-13 11:59 < Mole2> NotACow: Ah, you might be right about that.
2008-03-13 11:59 * TheWeasel remembers a Ms Marple line
2008-03-13 11:59 < NotACow> Mole2: it died off in the early 40s but came back at the end of the war
2008-03-13 11:59 < Lycurgus> and was passe by the end of the war
2008-03-13 11:59 < NotACow> then died off quickly thereafter
2008-03-13 11:59 < TheWeasel> "I remember when I was young we shocked our parents by doing the Charleston"§
2008-03-13 12:00 < NotACow> and then came back in the early 50s as a retro thing
2008-03-13 12:00 * Mole2 loves the young girls in his city that dress up in 40's-50's dresses + hair + makeup and sometimes do the jitterbug. They are soooo cute! :)
2008-03-13 12:00 < Mole2> TheWeasel: Haha! Yeah, the charlston was pretty revolutionary.
2008-03-13 12:01 < TheWeasel> thats a 20s thing I believe
2008-03-13 12:01 < Mole2> TheWeasel: Right.
2008-03-13 12:01 < NotACow> anyway, 70 yo today means 15 in 1953
2008-03-13 12:01 < NotACow> which would be about the right time for the retrobug.
2008-03-13 12:02 < Mole2> I don't remember the name of the dance (bilboa?) but it was danced in the 10's and 20's I think and you press up REAL close and bounce a lot. Now that's the kind of thing that ought to scare the shit out of parents... :)
2008-03-13 12:03 < Lycurgus> how much did the McCain campaign pay to put the ad on your site?
2008-03-13 12:04 < Mole2> Balboa did scare the shit out of me when I ended up with the hottest girl in our dance club for two hours during a dance lesson, right after all of us (including her) had been naked in the sauna. Now that kind of stress is just not healthy for a young man. (I was 25 at the time.)
2008-03-13 12:04 < Mole2> Lycurgus: There's an ad at Wikipedia? Where?
2008-03-13 12:04 < NotACow> Lycurgus: i have a mccain ad? cool.
2008-03-13 12:05 < Lycurgus> yeah you do.
2008-03-13 12:05 < NotACow> Lycurgus: it's google ads, and i never look at them
2008-03-13 12:05 < NotACow> that's kinda funny
2008-03-13 12:05 < NotACow> they cycle, obviously
2008-03-13 12:05 < NotACow> i doubt it'll be a mccain ad on the next load
2008-03-13 12:05 < Lycurgus> what a grizzled old soldier he is too.
2008-03-13 12:05 < Lycurgus> it was on 2 in a row for me.
2008-03-13 12:05 < NotACow> Lycurgus: mccain is probably buying a lot of ads on the "obama" word
2008-03-13 12:05 * Mole2 brings up his other web browser that does not have adblocker to see if Wikipedia has Google ads.
2008-03-13 12:06 < Lycurgus> WP does not have ads. Anywhere.
2008-03-13 12:06 < Lycurgus> except for it's own projects of course
2008-03-13 12:06 < Sfan00> Wikipedia does not have ADS...
2008-03-13 12:06 < Arwen> Lycurgus, on the contrary, it has ads encouraging donating to Wikimedia
2008-03-13 12:07 < Sfan00> if Wikipedia had Ads there would be a riot
2008-03-13 12:07 < Mole2> Lycurgus: Oh thanks, you kind of scared me there for a while.
2008-03-13 12:07 < NotACow> Lycurgus: i reviewed obama's article yesterday, so i imagine i'm getting obama adwords these days
2008-03-13 12:07 < NotACow> Lycurgus: i could block those, but why?
2008-03-13 12:07 < Mole2> Actually, I really dislike the sites that rip of Wikipedia content and shows it surrounded by LOTS of ads. As I read the GFDL I don't think that is really allowed.
2008-03-13 12:08 < NotACow> Mole2: i don't see any impediment to it
2008-03-13 12:08 < Lycurgus> it doesn't hurt as long as it's single extracts from articles
2008-03-13 12:09 < Mole2> Well, they copy the whole database and make money from running mirrors.
2008-03-13 12:09 < NotACow> Lycurgus: so far i've been paid a penny for today's ads :)
2008-03-13 12:09 < NotACow> Mole2: great, that's that much less traffic that wikimedia has to pay for
2008-03-13 12:09 < Mole2> NotACow: Ah, you got a point there. But that is also potential editors that end up on the wrong sites and thus can not edit the pages.
2008-03-13 12:09 < Lycurgus> what's the most you've made in a month and how many hits did you get in that month?
2008-03-13 12:09 < NotACow> Mole2: eh uh, so what
2008-03-13 12:10 < NotACow> Lycurgus: hm, i don't really know
2008-03-13 12:10 < NotACow> Lycurgus: i've made about $65 over the life of the blog
2008-03-13 12:10 < Mole2> NotACow: Yeah, I guess en.wikipedia doesn't really lack editors now. But the other languages need lots of more editors.
2008-03-13 12:11 < Lycurgus> yeah, for me it's not worth it cause it just makes you look bad as noted above.
2008-03-13 12:11 < NotACow> Lycurgus: i don't really care :)
2008-03-13 12:11 < NotACow> Lycurgus: most of my friends have adblock anyway
2008-03-13 12:11 < Lycurgus> even if I did have or do in the futher have sufficient traffic
2008-03-13 12:11 < NotACow> Lycurgus: and this way i make money off silly people who don't have enough sense to use adblock
2008-03-13 12:12 < Lycurgus> I am not silly and I don't use adblock. I do block a lot of domains though like doubleclick at the DNS level.
2008-03-13 12:12 < Lycurgus> I don't even know what adblock is. Presume it's something that runs on DOS>
2008-03-13 12:13 < Lycurgus> s/>/./
2008-03-13 12:13 < NotACow> Lycurgus: it's a firefox addin
2008-03-13 12:13 < Lycurgus> ah, I use seamonkey for mozilla and that's my normal browser
2008-03-13 12:14 < Lycurgus> except when I have to use IE or Safari
2008-03-13 12:14 < NotACow> ah, a macaroon
2008-03-13 12:15 * Mole2 goes back to food and Wikipedia template documenting.
2008-03-13 12:15 < Lycurgus> i wouldn't have thought any part of Cook County would be unincorporated by now
2008-03-13 12:16 < Lycurgus> must be some tiny pocket between townships
2008-03-13 12:16 < NotACow> Lycurgus: uh, all of cook county is in one township or another
2008-03-13 12:16 < NotACow> it's between villages
2008-03-13 12:17 < Lycurgus> ah
2008-03-13 12:17 < NotACow> the townships are exhaustive of land space by defintiion
2008-03-13 12:18 < NotACow> there are a few slivers here and there that no village has bothered to annex, for one reason or another
2008-03-13 12:19 < NotACow> the nice thing about unincorporated cook is the county default zoning ordinance applies
2008-03-13 12:19 < NotACow> and the county default ordinance mandates substnatially larger lot sizes than most village ordinances
2008-03-13 12:19 < NotACow> so our lots are big
2008-03-13 12:19 < NotACow> and we have a double lot, so ours is REALLY big :)
2008-03-13 12:21 < Lycurgus> kelly's little acre huh? bbiab
2008-03-13 13:12 < mexicanbanana> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/MacBook_Pro.jpg <-- What the eff? This is a MacBook Pro?
2008-03-13 13:12 < mexicanbanana> It like totally lacks keys and shit.
2008-03-13 13:12 < mexicanbanana> There is no page down/page up or home or end or print screen?
2008-03-13 13:13 < Aqwis> home and end and such are integrated in the arrow buttons afaik
2008-03-13 13:13 < mexicanbanana> The keyboard looks very small even for a laptop.
2008-03-13 13:13 < Aqwis> page down/up
2008-03-13 13:13 < mexicanbanana> And the MacBook Pro is pretty big.
2008-03-13 13:13 < quanticle> mexicanbanana: Its a Mac laptop. What do you expect, features?
2008-03-13 13:13 < Aqwis> so you click fn and then the arrow buttons
2008-03-13 13:13 < mexicanbanana> :O
2008-03-13 13:14 < mexicanbanana> And I thought my HP laptop's keyword was stupid...
2008-03-13 13:14 < mexicanbanana> But it actually has home, end, page up/down etc.
2008-03-13 13:14 < mexicanbanana> s/keyword/keyboard/
2008-03-13 13:14 < Aqwis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PowerBook_1400cs_133.jpg
2008-03-13 13:14 < Aqwis> this is what a real keyboard looks like
2008-03-13 13:14 < mexicanbanana> Extremely frequently used keys for me.
2008-03-13 13:14 < zocky> <<Shown above is a computer-generated image of the International Prototype Kilogram (“IPK”). The IPK is the kilogram. It sits next to an inch-based ruler for scale. The IPK is made of a platinum-iridium alloy and is stored in a vault at the BIPM in Sèvres, France. For other kilogram-related images, see Links to photographs, below.>>
2008-03-13 13:14 < mexicanbanana> Aqwis: I love how the arrow keys are not properly laid out.
2008-03-13 13:15 < Aqwis> no, they ARE properly laid out
2008-03-13 13:15 < Demi> what do you even use "Home" and "End" for?
2008-03-13 13:15 < quanticle> zokcy: Is that the same international prototype kilogram that is slowly losing mass for unknown reasons?
2008-03-13 13:15 < Aqwis> scrolling to the bottom and top of a page, Demi?
2008-03-13 13:15 < zocky> quanticle, nah, this one is computer generated
2008-03-13 13:15 < Aqwis> mexicanbanana, i was not being sarcastic
2008-03-13 13:15 < quanticle> Aqwis: No, that's what you use pgup and pgdown for
2008-03-13 13:15 < Aqwis> takes about a second longer
2008-03-13 13:15 < zocky> and I love that it's shown next to an "inch-based ruler for scale"
2008-03-13 13:16 < Demi> it wouldn't be very useful to show the scale of a scale in its scale
2008-03-13 13:16 < Demi> oh wait
2008-03-13 13:16 < Demi> yeah, that is funny
2008-03-13 13:16 < zocky> Demi, home and end take you to the beginning and the end of the line, obviously
2008-03-13 13:16 < zocky> very useful keys
2008-03-13 13:16 < Demi> is it the line or the page?
2008-03-13 13:16 < zocky> line
2008-03-13 13:16 < zocky> page is useless
2008-03-13 13:16 < Aqwis> depends on if you are in a web browser or word processor ;|
2008-03-13 13:17 < Demi> hm, i guess when dealing with lines i'm in my editor of choice
2008-03-13 13:17 < Demi> so it's 1 and $
2008-03-13 13:17 < Aqwis> if -> whether
2008-03-13 13:17 < Aqwis> those are the same word in norwegian ;|
2008-03-13 13:18 < Demi> i mean 0 and $
2008-03-13 13:18 < Demi> my fingers know, but my brain doesn't
2008-03-13 13:18 < Demi> !
2008-03-13 13:19 < zocky> Demi, ah, I see you're one of those people who use wirebrushes for showering
2008-03-13 13:19 < zocky> it's not good enough if it does a good job, it has to hurt too
2008-03-13 13:20 < Demi> nah
2008-03-13 13:20 < Demi> i'm just lazy
2008-03-13 13:21 < Demi> who wants to take their hands off the home row to move the cursor around? or move them off the keyboard to go to the beginning and end of line? or press control key combos? can't be bothered.
2008-03-13 13:31 < NotACow> splat
2008-03-13 13:32 < quanticle> Demi, I usually just end up using the hjkl navigation...
2008-03-13 13:32 < Demi> that's what i'm saying
2008-03-13 13:34 < ChemicalBit> hello!
2008-03-13 13:35 < mexicanbanana> Demi: "what do you even use "Home" and "End" for?" <-- Um... only every time I input text of any kind?
2008-03-13 13:35 < ChemicalBit> After how many days is an user autoconfirmed? 3 or 4?
2008-03-13 13:36 < mexicanbanana> Ctrl + arrows and home/end are vital for handling text.
2008-03-13 13:52 < nsh_> MAKE CONVERSATION GO NOW!
2008-03-13 13:53 < Messedrocker> CONSERVATION
2008-03-13 13:53 * nsh_ measures placebo_effect
2008-03-13 13:53 < placebo_effect> what am i being measured for?
2008-03-13 13:54 < nsh> to determine the extent of psychosomatic effects
2008-03-13 13:54 < nsh> or, psychosomatism
2008-03-13 13:54 < nsh> which tastes nice in my mouth
2008-03-13 13:55 < placebo_effect> Headon
2008-03-13 13:56 < Messedrocker> head on
2008-03-13 13:56 < Messedrocker> apply directly to the forehead
2008-03-13 13:56 < Messedrocker> head on
2008-03-13 13:56 < Messedrocker> apply directly to the forehead
2008-03-13 13:56 < Messedrocker> head on
2008-03-13 13:56 < Messedrocker> apply directly to the forehead
2008-03-13 13:56 < Messedrocker> head on is available without a prescription at retailers nationwide
2008-03-13 13:56 < ShakespeareFan00> Flood warning
2008-03-13 13:59 < placebo_effect> Build the Ark
2008-03-13 14:03 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.reuters.com/article/artsNews/idUSN1221036620080313
2008-03-13 14:03 < Ceiling_Cat> they are making an 8th harry potter film
2008-03-13 14:04 < Ceiling_Cat> turning hte last book into 2 films
2008-03-13 14:04 < kenlyric> odd
2008-03-13 14:04 < kenlyric> it's shorter than 4 or 5
2008-03-13 14:04 < The359> not odd
2008-03-13 14:04 < The359> they need moar money!
2008-03-13 14:04 < Ceiling_Cat> order of the phoenix (the movie) was too short
2008-03-13 14:04 < Ceiling_Cat> it should have been 1 1/2 hours longer
2008-03-13 14:05 < Ceiling_Cat> umbridge is not nearly as despisable
2008-03-13 14:05 < Ceiling_Cat> as in the book
2008-03-13 14:05 < Ceiling_Cat> despicable*
2008-03-13 14:06 < Ceiling_Cat> *MOAR CATZ*
2008-03-13 14:15 < Cyrius> http://www.lollyphile.com/maple-bacon.php
2008-03-13 14:15 < Cyrius> bacon lollipops!
2008-03-13 14:17 < Cyrius> and their other available flavor is absinthe
2008-03-13 14:17 < Cyrius> connection? I think so.
2008-03-13 14:17 < The359> Lollyphile?
2008-03-13 14:17 < The359> Horrible name
2008-03-13 14:21 < OverlordQ> real absinthe my hind end lol
2008-03-13 14:42 < bogdan2006> hey.
2008-03-13 14:42 < bogdan2006> does anyone here has access to springerlink.com?
2008-03-13 14:45 * Ceiling_Cat does
2008-03-13 14:46 < Ceiling_Cat> *MOAR CATZ!*
2008-03-13 14:50 * Ceiling_Cat huggles Miranda
2008-03-13 14:50 < Miranda> o.O
2008-03-13 14:50 < Miranda> hi Ceiling_Cat
2008-03-13 14:51 < Ceiling_Cat> Hello Miranda . We have been expecting you. What took you so long?
2008-03-13 14:51 < Miranda> ...
2008-03-13 14:51 < privatemusings> yes, now do sit down.
2008-03-13 14:51 < privatemusings> what can we do for you?
2008-03-13 14:53 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2008-03/36503060.jpg
2008-03-13 14:53 < privatemusings> is that the vice presidential candidate?
2008-03-13 14:54 < Miranda> Ceiling_Cat: is that Killer Chihuahua in an obama t-shirt?
2008-03-13 14:56 < Ceiling_Cat> quite possibly
2008-03-13 14:57 < privatemusings> I think that's the answer to both questions....
2008-03-13 14:57 < privatemusings> Killer Chihuahua for VP!
2008-03-13 14:59 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Little_Man_Chihuahua_by_David_Shankbone.jpg
2008-03-13 14:59 < Ceiling_Cat> Soooooooooo cute
2008-03-13 14:59 < Ceiling_Cat> don't you just wanna cuddle him>
2008-03-13 14:59 < Ceiling_Cat> ?
2008-03-13 14:59 < privatemusings> david shankbone or the dog?
2008-03-13 15:00 < Ceiling_Cat> david shankbone took the picture
2008-03-13 15:00 < Ceiling_Cat> the dog's name is 'little man'