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2008-03-11 20:21 < Random832> Messedrocker: i don't think it does
2008-03-11 20:21 < mark7> Messedrocker: It doesn't currently seem to do so.
2008-03-11 20:29 < quanticle> Am I too late for the "donorgate" discussion?
2008-03-11 20:29 < Cyrius> haven't been having one
2008-03-11 20:30 < gwern> quanticle: don't think anyone cares. all there really is currently is a claim by merky, who has a history of doing stupid things
2008-03-11 20:30 < quanticle> Ah ok.
2008-03-11 20:30 < gwern> I think his classic one was, what, try to destroy the GPL under monopoly or anti-racketerring laws?
2008-03-11 20:30 < dtobias> Merkey is not a reliable source... he gets pretty delusional.
2008-03-11 20:31 < dtobias> Still, depending on what's in those emails he gave the press, maybe he and Jimbo tried to make some kind of embarrassing deal.
2008-03-11 20:32 < gwern> quanticle: oh, and the lawsuit where his partner characterized him as quite literally psychotic is amusing
2008-03-11 20:33 < Leslie_S> why on earth do i have to pay a security deposit up front for electricity, yet i can have DSL equipment shipped to me with nothing up front?
2008-03-11 20:33 < quanticle> Yeah. Upon further consideration this guy looks to be a nut. He shotgun-sued a bunch of people, including Slashdot, Groklaw, and Bruce Perens as well, and it seems like everyone else has settled except for WP.
2008-03-11 20:34 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Because the DSL company has more competition.
2008-03-11 20:34 < Cyrius> the sad thing is that jimbo's shot his credibility full of enough holes that we can actually entertain the possibility that merkey isn't full of crap
2008-03-11 20:34 < gwern> on the topic of Wikipedia, here's an interesting article comparing experience vs. greatness of Presidents, drawing on WP: http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Info/experience.html
2008-03-11 20:34 < Cyrius> gwern: I was amused by that
2008-03-11 20:34 < Leslie_S> quanticle the dsl people are also sending me a tangible good that actually cost them money....the power company would have been generating that power whether i used it or not.
2008-03-11 20:34 * Leslie_S shrugs
2008-03-11 20:35 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Electricity is usually a monopoly; its not like you can get electricity from another company. DSL at least has cable as competition.
2008-03-11 20:35 < NotACow> Leslie_S: actually, they on;y generate as much power as they need.
2008-03-11 20:35 < Cyrius> "You know who else had a lot of experience? James Buchanan."
2008-03-11 20:35 < Leslie_S> NotACow yes, but is my use of their service really going to make them throttle up the reactor"
2008-03-11 20:35 < NotACow> Leslie_S: maybe a weebit.
2008-03-11 20:35 < gwern> yeah. I think I'm going to have to use that quip in an obama/clinton discussion at some pojnt
2008-03-11 20:36 < quanticle> Cyrius: Sounds like something Jon Stewart would say...
2008-03-11 20:36 < Leslie_S> NotACow heh.
2008-03-11 20:36 < Cyrius> gwern: It's like "You know who else $thing? Hitler."
2008-03-11 20:36 < Jonjonbt> Damn pings
2008-03-11 20:36 < Jonjonbt> :-P
2008-03-11 20:36 < Leslie_S> NotACow still...does it really cost them anything measurable to throttle up a reactor?
2008-03-11 20:36 < Leslie_S> The fuel rods last several years..
2008-03-11 20:37 < Leslie_S> and arent they using power that they made to run things like the water pumps?
2008-03-11 20:37 < Cyrius> overhead.
2008-03-11 20:37 < quanticle> Jonjonbt: Perhaps you should choose a nickname that has less common name than Jon
2008-03-11 20:37 < Cyrius> it does cost them a tiny bit
2008-03-11 20:37 < gwern> Cyrius: it's good rhetoric, though, and less Godwinny
2008-03-11 20:37 < Cyrius> that tiny bit is in your bill
2008-03-11 20:37 < Jonjonbt> Ummm...I can't
2008-03-11 20:38 < Leslie_S> Cyrius im talking about a security deposit though, and why the power company charges me one, but the DSL people dont and actually send me a tangible good up front with no payment.
2008-03-11 20:38 < gwern> I really dislike the hillary experience argument; everyone seems to think it's a good one
2008-03-11 20:38 < Cyrius> Leslie_S: yes, that's dumb.
2008-03-11 20:38 < bra1> Has anyone listened to the latest TWiT podcast?
2008-03-11 20:38 < gwern> Leslie_S: do you really have a choice but to bow to the power company's whims?
2008-03-11 20:38 < Leslie_S> gwern hell no, i dont.
2008-03-11 20:38 < gwern> what are you gonna do, buy some solar panels?</chortle>
2008-03-11 20:38 < Leslie_S> gwern but in my case, i really dont with the dsl people either.
2008-03-11 20:38 < Leslie_S> Cable internet isnt allowed at my apartment complex.
2008-03-11 20:39 < gwern> Leslie_S: hope the dsl company never finds out, then they'll jack you
2008-03-11 20:39 < Leslie_S> gwern lols
2008-03-11 20:39 < Hello32020> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lamborghini_Gallardo&action=history can someone help please
2008-03-11 20:39 < gwern> *jack you as well
2008-03-11 20:39 < Hello32020> (vandalism)
2008-03-11 20:40 < ST47> GOOD FOR YOU!!!
2008-03-11 20:40 < Leslie_S> anyway, the deal with cable internet is that the only cable internet provider here is comcast. The apartment complex doesnt allow comcast, and instead wants to sell me cable from a company they own, which is 100% analog and has nearly no channels.
2008-03-11 20:40 < ST47> YOU FAIL ANYWAY!!!!
2008-03-11 20:40 < Leslie_S> its also cheap and piped in from bigass sattelite dishes in the apartment complex, so its probably a lot more reliable than comcast :P
2008-03-11 20:40 < gwern> Leslie_S: that's a neatly abusive situation
2008-03-11 20:40 < quanticle> Hello32020: What seems to be the issue?
2008-03-11 20:40 < Leslie_S> gwern yup.
2008-03-11 20:40 < Leslie_S> gwern you know, they could atleast give digital cable.
2008-03-11 20:40 < Leslie_S> gwern i dont care much about the internet since dsl is available
2008-03-11 20:41 < quanticle> Hello32020: It looks like someone has already taken care of it.
2008-03-11 20:41 * Cyrius coughs
2008-03-11 20:41 < Cyrius> me
2008-03-11 20:42 < Cyrius> gave it a 1 week semiprotect, and undid the mass blanking you ignored =O
2008-03-11 20:42 * quanticle gives Cyrius props
2008-03-11 20:42 < bra1> Has anyone listened to the latest TWiT?
2008-03-11 20:42 < ST47> not yet
2008-03-11 20:42 < Cyrius> I try not to listen to twits.
2008-03-11 20:42 < ST47> Though, I'm a week behind on anything
2008-03-11 20:43 < ST47> becasue itunes sucks
2008-03-11 20:43 < bra1> They really bash Jimmy Wales
2008-03-11 20:43 < quanticle> Cyrius: Heh. Its true. TWiT is largely a bunch of twits...
2008-03-11 20:43 < bra1> especially Jason Calacanis
2008-03-11 20:43 < Leslie_S> gwern i would get sattelite tv, but guess what. im pretty sure that i cant actually get a signal from my particular apartment!
2008-03-11 20:43 < quanticle> bra1: TWiT is a bunch of outta touch wannbes...
2008-03-11 20:43 < gwern> tv is overrated
2008-03-11 20:43 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Not south facing?
2008-03-11 20:44 < Cyrius> they hired John Dvorak, 'nuff said
2008-03-11 20:44 < quanticle> Cyrius: That's what I was getting at...
2008-03-11 20:44 < bra1> quanticle, it's hard to be a wannabe and the most popular podcast
2008-03-11 20:44 < Hello32020> Was trying to figure out where it started O_O
2008-03-11 20:44 < gwern> Dvorak? the professional troll?
2008-03-11 20:44 < bra1> Dvorak isn't really that bad
2008-03-11 20:44 < Leslie_S> quanticle im not totally sure on the direction, but the issue is mostly trees.
2008-03-11 20:44 < Cyrius> gwern: yep.
2008-03-11 20:45 < quanticle> bra1: Hmmm, given that the most people don't have a clue about tech, its easy to be out of touch and popular. You just have to be slightly less out of touch than everyone else.
2008-03-11 20:45 < Cyrius> Dvorak has a talent for being wrong about everything
2008-03-11 20:45 < Cyrius> I think he does it intentionally
2008-03-11 20:45 < gwern> http://sixthousand.blogspot.com/ <-- I find this page full of hot scientists and mathematicians arousing
2008-03-11 20:45 < quanticle> Cyrius: Except when he's right, and then everyone looks to him like a prophet. Ex: Apple going to Intel CPUs.
2008-03-11 20:46 < Cyrius> quanticle: given that he had been predicting that since...I dunno, 1984...it's not really a hit
2008-03-11 20:46 < kenlyric> you can hardly be said to be right about something when everyone predicts it
2008-03-11 20:46 < bra1> You have to admit that Wales is being suspicious
2008-03-11 20:46 < quanticle> Cyrius: He's admitted on repeated occassions that he makes outlandish statements to get pageviews.
2008-03-11 20:47 < Cyrius> bra1: you're not bringing up anything about Jimbo that we haven't already beaten to death
2008-03-11 20:47 < gwern> 'ver wondered how far a penguin can fire waste from its anus? Wonder no more. Victor Breno Meyer-Rochow of International University, Bremen, and Jozsef Gal of Lorand Eotvos University, Hungary, used the basic principles of physics to calculate the pressure that builds up inside a penguin. Dr. Meyer-Rochow explained that the research began in 1993, when he led the first, and so far only, Jamaican expedition to the Antarctic. Later, ...
2008-03-11 20:47 < kenlyric> how many diamonds does jimbo prefer, *that* is the question
2008-03-11 20:47 < gwern> ... while showing students pictures of faeces-lined penguin nests, he was asked how the elaborate displays were created. "They get up, move to the edge of the nest, turn around, bend over - and shoot," he said. That's when he got the idea to calculate the pressure produced by penguin poo. '
2008-03-11 20:47 < bra1> I just want to know if he's credible or not
2008-03-11 20:47 < kenlyric> bra1: no
2008-03-11 20:47 < quanticle> gwern: The igNobel awards?
2008-03-11 20:47 < Cyrius> gwern: HAH
2008-03-11 20:48 < Leslie_S> last i checked, wales was a great guy other than he doesnt pay any attention to wikipedia whatsoever, and then comes around and makes godking decisions and statements that are just downright absurd, because he doesnt have a clue about the situation.
2008-03-11 20:48 < Leslie_S> like uh, the Essjay thing.
2008-03-11 20:48 < Cyrius> bra1: why? how does his personal credibility affect you?
2008-03-11 20:48 < DannyLilithborne> hey everybody
2008-03-11 20:48 < kenlyric> Leslie_S: don't forget the hooker
2008-03-11 20:48 < DannyLilithborne> i'm a sockpuppet of Kung Fu Man
2008-03-11 20:48 < DannyLilithborne> lulz
2008-03-11 20:48 < kenlyric> *s
2008-03-11 20:48 < quanticle> Cyrius: How does Wales' personal credibilty affect Wikipedia, even?
2008-03-11 20:49 < Leslie_S> kenlyric the fact he ran bomis gives me a little bit of an issue with him, not because its a porn site, but because it was total CRAP.
2008-03-11 20:49 < kenlyric> jimbo seems about a 3 diamond. maybe a 4
2008-03-11 20:49 < bra1> Cyrius, Because if he is manipulating wikipedia for his own game that affects Wikipedia's credibility
2008-03-11 20:49 < Leslie_S> "internet search. oh, and porn.". seriously, wtf?
2008-03-11 20:49 < NotACow> wales has no personal credibility
2008-03-11 20:49 < Leslie_S> but....i dont really care about that.
2008-03-11 20:49 < anon32> OMG DONORGATE LOL
2008-03-11 20:49 < Leslie_S> any why would wales have any credibility at all? why does he NEED it?
2008-03-11 20:49 < anon32> because he's Wikipedia's mascot?
2008-03-11 20:49 < Cyrius> bra1: he's too lazy to manipulate much of the site
2008-03-11 20:49 < Leslie_S> hes just some random guy with money.
2008-03-11 20:49 < Leslie_S> basically
2008-03-11 20:49 < NotACow> this affects wikipedia because the ability of the WMF to raise funds is directly related to donors evaluation of the likelihood that the foundation he appears to run will misapply their donations.
2008-03-11 20:50 < DannyLilithborne> his own game?
2008-03-11 20:50 * gwern wonders if Spitzer's resigned yet
2008-03-11 20:50 < NotACow> Leslie_S: no, some random guy *without* money
2008-03-11 20:50 < DannyLilithborne> lol wikimon diamond and pearl
2008-03-11 20:50 < quanticle> anon32: Donorgate is pretty irrelevant, because the guy making the accusation is a complete nutcase.
2008-03-11 20:50 < NotACow> Leslie_S: jimmy hasn't had money in a long time. what he has is access to other people's money.
2008-03-11 20:50 < anon32> ad hominem
2008-03-11 20:50 < Cyrius> NotACow: irrelevant, I doubt bra1 is looking to make a donation
2008-03-11 20:50 < Leslie_S> NotACow he had money when he started wikipedia, otherwise it wouldnt have started.
2008-03-11 20:50 < NotACow> Leslie_S: no, he had other people's money.
2008-03-11 20:50 < Leslie_S> NotACow wasnt it money from bomis, which he owned?
2008-03-11 20:50 < NotACow> Leslie_S: wikipedia was started with money that jimmy had access to, but wasn't his.
2008-03-11 20:50 < bra1> I might be
2008-03-11 20:50 < NotACow> Leslie_S: he wasn't the only owner.
2008-03-11 20:50 < quanticle> DannyLilithborne: I counter your troll with my Hugglebot attack!
2008-03-11 20:50 < Leslie_S> NotACow oh. lol.
2008-03-11 20:51 < Leslie_S> so he was just some random guy
2008-03-11 20:51 < Leslie_S> rofl
2008-03-11 20:51 < Leslie_S> NotACow to be honest, in the first 6 months, you could probably run wikipedia for $20/month...
2008-03-11 20:51 < DannyLilithborne> noo not huggles!
2008-03-11 20:51 < NotACow> Leslie_S: jimmy has a long history of using other people's money for his own amusement.
2008-03-11 20:51 < DannyLilithborne> it's super effective!
2008-03-11 20:51 < Leslie_S> oh well
2008-03-11 20:52 < Mike_H> God is so gangsta.
2008-03-11 20:52 * Cyrius doesn't want to see what DannyLilithborne evolves into
2008-03-11 20:52 < quanticle> NotACow: Heck, even now if you didn't waste money advertising and hosting Wikimania and the like, you could run Wikipedia pretty economically.
2008-03-11 20:52 * DannyLilithborne evolves into BadJuJu
2008-03-11 20:52 < Leslie_S> and why on earth does my cheap laptop power supply have usb ports on it to charge things with? my laptop has usb ports.
2008-03-11 20:52 < Cyrius> hehe, "What if God created Faith to test our ability to reason?"
2008-03-11 20:52 < bra1> Faith is reasonable
2008-03-11 20:53 < DannyLilithborne> God's the Original Gansta
2008-03-11 20:53 < Leslie_S> faith is totally unreasonable
2008-03-11 20:53 < quanticle> Leslie_S: Are the USB ports just for charging, or can your brick also act as a powered USB hub?
2008-03-11 20:53 < Messedrocker> Leslie_S, so you can use the PSU USB ports to charge things so that you don't have to use laptop USB ports for such a thing
2008-03-11 20:53 < Leslie_S> quanticle just for charging.
2008-03-11 20:53 < bra1> Leslie, so saying something came from nothing is more reasonable than saying God created it?
2008-03-11 20:53 < gwern> 'According to it's author, "this paper describes some features of the behaviour of a severely disturbed adopted latency boy. Peter was born premature, suffered several early hospitalizations and surgical operations, and at 2 months of age was removed from his mother's care by Social Services for neglect and abandonment. When feeling endangered, Peter had developed a defensive olfactive container using his bodily smell and farts to ...
2008-03-11 20:53 < quanticle> Leslie_S: It might be so that you can charge stuff without having to pull out your laptop and leaving it about.
2008-03-11 20:53 < Leslie_S> bra1 it didnt come from nothing.
2008-03-11 20:53 < gwern> ... envelop himself in a protective cloud of familiarity against the dread of falling apart, and to hold his personality together." '
2008-03-11 20:53 < NotACow> quanticle: the currrent technical environment needs about $1.4 million a year, give or take.
2008-03-11 20:53 < Cyrius> Leslie_S: because when you're on the road, you are likely to need to charge a bunch of stuff
2008-03-11 20:53 < Leslie_S> bra1 and if god created it, what created him?
2008-03-11 20:53 < Leslie_S> Cyrius its a 120 volt ac adapter...
2008-03-11 20:54 < Cyrius> yes, and?
2008-03-11 20:54 < gwern> 'The paper reads: "The ultrasonic velocity in Cheddar cheese is temperature dependent. This relationship can be used to make corrections when determining ultrasonic texture or to determine mean temperatures in cooling/heating processes. At 0 < T < 35 °C ultrasonic velocity was 1590 to 1696 Ms, at 0 and 35 °C, respectively. Differential Scanning Calorimetry thermograms linked the temperature dependence of ultrasonic velocity to fat ...
2008-03-11 20:54 < Leslie_S> CydeWeys im not usually on the road when i use that.
2008-03-11 20:54 < gwern> ... melting. Three parts are distinguished in the curve as a consequence of the fat melting and the appearance of free oil. The most reliable temperature interval to carry out ultrasonic measurements in Cheddar cheese is identified as 0 to 17 °C." '
2008-03-11 20:54 < gwern> (from http://oddee.com/item_90683.aspx )
2008-03-11 20:54 < quanticle> gwern: Are you reading IgNobel papers?
2008-03-11 20:54 < Cyrius> Leslie_S: when you get somewhere you can stop, like a hotel
2008-03-11 20:54 < Cyrius> your battery-powered devices are likely to be drained
2008-03-11 20:54 < Cyrius> and require charging
2008-03-11 20:55 < Leslie_S> bra1 look, its not the existence of god thats un reasonable. its the belief that a religion which teaches that he says certain things is the truth that i have an issue with
2008-03-11 20:55 < Leslie_S> Cyrius ok.
2008-03-11 20:55 < Cyrius> you know, I can see studying the interesting biological question of penguin waste velocity
2008-03-11 20:55 < Cyrius> but the behavior of sound in cheese?
2008-03-11 20:55 < NotACow> Cyrius: is a male penguin a poo-rooster?
2008-03-11 20:56 * Cyrius doesn't get it
2008-03-11 20:56 < Leslie_S> bra1 and most churches teach things that are obviously evil, like hating certain people for things they cant control, like homosexuals and women, etc. and telling people that they cant cut their hair because their female, etc.
2008-03-11 20:56 < Leslie_S> bra1 but people still follow them.
2008-03-11 20:57 < Leslie_S> some even make it obvious, for example, godhatesfags.com
2008-03-11 20:57 < Cyrius> god hates figs
2008-03-11 20:57 < NotACow> is thre a fagshategod.com?
2008-03-11 20:57 < Cyrius> http://godhatesfigs.com/
2008-03-11 20:57 < Leslie_S> NotACow maybe, but there definitely needs to be one.
2008-03-11 20:57 * ST47 likes figs
2008-03-11 20:57 < ST47> Especially those cookies..
2008-03-11 20:57 < NotACow> meh, domain parked.
2008-03-11 20:58 < DannyLilithborne> God hates fogs
2008-03-11 20:58 < Leslie_S> fagshategod.com is taken
2008-03-11 20:58 < DannyLilithborne> they get in His way when He's driving
2008-03-11 20:58 < Leslie_S> however, .net is available
2008-03-11 20:58 < Cyrius> can god create a fog so dense he can't drive in it?
2008-03-11 20:58 < Mike_H> He can.
2008-03-11 20:58 < quanticle> What's wrong with figs?
2008-03-11 20:58 < Mike_H> Because God is so gangsta.
2008-03-11 20:59 < Mike_H> proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Zp1B9dtUQ
2008-03-11 20:59 < quanticle> Cyrius: Nope. God has magic radar that can see through even the thickest fog.
2008-03-11 20:59 < Cyrius> meh, sidestepping the problem =)
2008-03-11 20:59 < Krimpet> "Yes, this is what the LORD Almighty says: "I will send the sword, famine and plague against them and I will make them like poor figs that are so bad they cannot be eaten."
2008-03-11 21:00 < dtobias> What about fagshategod.org?
2008-03-11 21:00 < DannyLilithborne> God is love... except for certain tings
2008-03-11 21:00 < DannyLilithborne> *things
2008-03-11 21:00 < dtobias> For a noncommercial site that would make sense.
2008-03-11 21:00 < DannyLilithborne> like He really hates sea cucumbers
2008-03-11 21:00 < DannyLilithborne> and who wouldn't? omg gross
2008-03-11 21:00 < quanticle> DannyLilithborne: What did he do to the sea cucumbers?
2008-03-11 21:01 * quanticle refuses to capitalize pronouns referring to God
2008-03-11 21:01 < DannyLilithborne> it's a habit for me
2008-03-11 21:01 < ST47> You just did...
2008-03-11 21:01 < Cyrius> http://godhatesshrimp.com/
2008-03-11 21:01 < quanticle> ST47: God is not a pronoun
2008-03-11 21:01 < quanticle> It is a proper noun
2008-03-11 21:01 < Cyrius> http://godhatesobama.com/
2008-03-11 21:01 < gwern> could god create a fag so large even he couldn't shag it?
2008-03-11 21:01 < DannyLilithborne> :o
2008-03-11 21:02 < quanticle> gwern: Yeah probably. It'd be one big-ass tree though.
2008-03-11 21:02 < DannyLilithborne> God hates rags
2008-03-11 21:02 < DannyLilithborne> they tell vicious lies about Nicole Kidman
2008-03-11 21:02 < Krimpet> hmm, my firefox hates "god hates obama," it seems
2008-03-11 21:03 < Krimpet> it's hella slow :p
2008-03-11 21:03 < dtobias> There's no reason anybody should need to link to an attack site like godhatesobama.com!!!!!
2008-03-11 21:04 < dtobias> Sorry for getting obsessed and emotional before, by the way... I don't help my own argument much when I do that.
2008-03-11 21:04 < dtobias> I just wish the other side would stop being so emotional too.
2008-03-11 21:05 < dtobias> Gee, this channel got real quiet quickly.
2008-03-11 21:06 < DannyLilithborne> ^.^
2008-03-11 21:07 < DannyLilithborne> hmm
2008-03-11 21:07 < DannyLilithborne> what's with this diff? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=197625638&oldid=197625526
2008-03-11 21:08 < Krimpet> DannyLilithborne: Seems to me that Cobden is the notable entity, while Whitewater Region isn't. Logically speaking, the latter should be merged into the former.
2008-03-11 21:08 < Krimpet> :p
2008-03-11 21:08 < DannyLilithborne> i thought it was an accident and tried to undo it but apparently that change didn't actually happen
2008-03-11 21:08 < Krimpet> looks like a MediaWiki burp
2008-03-11 21:09 < dtobias> Software glitch?
2008-03-11 21:09 < Random832> wow
2008-03-11 21:09 < Random832> we have co-founder, carolyn doran, and varkala all on Jimbo's talk page, at the same time, and no-one's revert warring to remove any of them?
2008-03-11 21:10 * DannyLilithborne doesn't actually watchlise Jimbo's talk D:
2008-03-11 21:10 < DannyLilithborne> holy crap
2008-03-11 21:10 < DannyLilithborne> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_M._Sabater_Elementary_School
2008-03-11 21:10 < DannyLilithborne> i feel bad for laughing at this
2008-03-11 21:10 < Random832> so how is it that Carolyn Doran got fired for putting $5000 on the credit card and paying it back that same tuesday
2008-03-11 21:11 < Random832> yet all Jimbo gets is the credit card taken away, and pays back only $7000 of some $30,000
2008-03-11 21:11 < Leslie_S> Random832 wtf? jimbo wasted 30,000 of money thats not his?
2008-03-11 21:13 < Random832> Leslie_S: 30K was one of the figure in Danny Wool's claims about it - it's not clear how much of that was wasted and how much was legitimate expenses (the implication, though, was that rather more than just the $7000 that was paid back, were improper expenses)
2008-03-11 21:13 < Random832> and whatever the specifics were , he lost access to a WMF credit card over it
2008-03-11 21:17 < NotACow> Random832: i suspect that jimmy has successfully buried at least most of his malfeasances
2008-03-11 21:17 < NotACow> Random832: and his newer ones are against wikia, rather than wikimedia.
2008-03-11 21:20 < Hello32020> inb4someonerelatesjimbotonygovernor
2008-03-11 21:20 < Hello32020> ;)
2008-03-11 21:22 < Messedrocker> new blog post http://voice-of-resolution.blogspot.com/
2008-03-11 21:24 < Random832> "Do bros come before ho's?"?
2008-03-11 21:26 < Hello32020> hey whats the link on wikipedia to the most viewed articles for the months i forget where that is
2008-03-11 21:26 < Hello32020> *each month
2008-03-11 21:26 * gwern is happy to see [[Dubliner cheese]] is a kind of cheese and not a brand
2008-03-11 21:26 < NotACow> Hello32020: see my blog, it's linked from there.
2008-03-11 21:26 < Messedrocker> i.e., do the males with whom you are friendly with have a higher priority in your opinion than sexual partners?
2008-03-11 21:26 < Random832> that question presumes several things
2008-03-11 21:26 < Messedrocker> er, yes, it does
2008-03-11 21:26 < Messedrocker> my mistake
2008-03-11 21:26 < uberpenguin> fact: the only bigger waste of time than contributing to wikipedia is blogging about not contributing to wikipedia :)
2008-03-11 21:27 < Random832> that the admin candidate has males with whom s/he is friendly; that the admin candidate has sexual partners; and that the two groups do not coincide.
2008-03-11 21:27 < Messedrocker> the point is that with whom do you hold a higher priority: male friends or female friends
2008-03-11 21:27 < NotACow> Messedrocker: men are inherently untrustworthy.
2008-03-11 21:27 < Gracenotes> :(
2008-03-11 21:27 < Messedrocker> the point of the question is that it's a non-sequitur, and by answering it i get to gage your reaction and judge you thusly
2008-03-11 21:27 < Random832> (it does not, incidentally, presume the admin is male, oddly enough)
2008-03-11 21:27 < Messedrocker> particularly with the related questions that come thereafter
2008-03-11 21:28 < Random832> it does, however, provide an opening for a joke about premature ejaculation
2008-03-11 21:28 < NotACow> all men want is sex. everything they do they do in order to get sex.
2008-03-11 21:29 < Messedrocker> NotACow, what about eunuchs?
2008-03-11 21:30 < Casull> Sigh
2008-03-11 21:30 < Random832> Messedrocker: but in all seriousness, you missed an opportunity to ask whether "since I have accrued somewhat of a positive reputation" matters to them, how much, and if it should
2008-03-11 21:30 < Casull> So I have this obvious trollbaby going nuts because I reverted his blanking of a page
2008-03-11 21:30 < NotACow> Messedrocker: they're clearly insane.
2008-03-11 21:30 < NotACow> Messedrocker: and besides, most of them want to be fucked in the butt.
2008-03-11 21:30 < Casull> Here I am, standing at a crossroads: I could either respond to his accusation of me being a 300-lb 40-year-old child molester, or I could play the adult card and ignore him
2008-03-11 21:31 < Casull> But of course, there'd be no fun in that latter option
2008-03-11 21:31 < gwern> Casull: or you could rape him
2008-03-11 21:31 < Casull> But that WOULD make me a child molester
2008-03-11 21:32 < gwern> Casull: it settles the question then once and for all
2008-03-11 21:32 * gwern isn't seeing the problem here
2008-03-11 21:32 < Casull> But I'm not a child molester :(
2008-03-11 21:32 < gwern> Casull: nonsense. why, if you think like that you'll never accomplish anything
2008-03-11 21:34 < Casull> *sigh* I think I'll just play the adult card and revert my page
2008-03-11 21:39 < DannyLilithborne> adult? why on earth would you do that?
2008-03-11 21:39 < DannyLilithborne> o_o
2008-03-11 21:42 < Newspeak_Cat> Heh, I remember when Raul654 got K-Lined
2008-03-11 21:43 < Leslie_S> i got klined once
2008-03-11 21:57 * EmoBassett watches showmedo
2008-03-11 21:58 < EmoBassett> it's pretty cool
2008-03-11 22:01 < britta> hey, i have a question. http://flickr.com/photos/manthatcooks/104552339/ is licensed creative commons, by-nc. does that mean i can't use it on an article?
2008-03-11 22:02 < britta> the licensing drop-down on the upload page doesn't have an option for that
2008-03-11 22:03 < Random832> britta: that's not considered a free license
2008-03-11 22:03 < Random832> since it can't be reused commercially (e.g. if someone wanted to put it on a t-shirt)
2008-03-11 22:03 < britta> awww lame
2008-03-11 22:03 < britta> oh well
2008-03-11 22:03 < britta> thanks
2008-03-11 22:05 < khaladan> who can i pay to rewrite the article on me
2008-03-11 22:05 < Random832> you could ask the person who owns the photo, if they could release it under a license suitable for wikipedia
2008-03-11 22:06 < britta> hmm. http://flickr.com/photos/yomi955/1202082654/ and http://flickr.com/photos/wolfgangkuhnle/128293986/ are options instead. but they aren't quite as representative of an aspic (this is to provide an image for 'aspic' article)
2008-03-11 22:07 < Random832> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspic - this?
2008-03-11 22:07 < Random832> you could make it yourself and photograph it
2008-03-11 22:07 < britta> yeah. thing is i'm vegetarian and don't have a kitchen. :)
2008-03-11 22:08 < Random832> so... it's like... meat-flavored jello?
2008-03-11 22:08 < britta> yesss! it's jello made of meat
2008-03-11 22:08 < Random832> with meat bits in it?
2008-03-11 22:08 < britta> yeah
2008-03-11 22:08 < Random832> that's... interesting
2008-03-11 22:08 < britta> it's kind of gross but awesome
2008-03-11 22:08 < britta> very much a fifties/sixties food
2008-03-11 22:09 < britta> it'd ben nice if we could include something from http://www.candyboots.com/wwcards.html but i doubt they're out of copyright
2008-03-11 22:11 < gwern> 'Meanwhile, CNN estimates show that Obama won last week's Texas Democratic caucuses and will get more delegates out of the state than rival Hillary Clinton, who won the state's primary.'
2008-03-11 22:11 * gwern waits for hillary to offer the VP slot to obama again
2008-03-11 22:12 < Gracenotes> why would he accept it again?
2008-03-11 22:12 < uberpenguin> ROCK LOBSTER
2008-03-11 22:15 * EmoBassett sees awful gaps in Eastern Germany
2008-03-11 22:17 < EmoBassett> and deceptions, I know that Eastern Bloc countries sometimes put them in maps deliberately
2008-03-11 22:26 < Nickname> how do i adopt a cat
2008-03-11 22:27 < Random832> so what's with this adopting cats thing
2008-03-11 22:45 < Luna-San> We should nominate random politicians for adminship.
2008-03-11 22:47 * EmoBassett loves Open Street Map
2008-03-11 22:47 < EmoBassett> DICK CHENEY IS DOING CHECKUSER ON YOUR ASS
2008-03-11 22:47 < Luna-San> I'll start: [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/George Stephanopoulos]]
2008-03-11 22:47 < Luna-San> Ooh. Yes. Just keep him away from the lawyer friends. o.o
2008-03-11 22:47 < Krimpet> that eliot spitzer would get along well with our founder :s
2008-03-11 22:48 < EmoBassett> lol
2008-03-11 22:48 < EmoBassett> you can include "cricket nets for practise" into the map
2008-03-11 23:07 < Ceiling_Cat> it's quiet in here
2008-03-11 23:07 < Random832> too quiet
2008-03-11 23:07 * Newspeak_Cat is now going to bed, good night!
2008-03-11 23:08 < Newspeak_Cat> o_O
2008-03-11 23:08 < Newspeak_Cat> Ceiling_Cat got k=lined
2008-03-11 23:08 < Ceiling_Cat> Newspeak_Cat - oh, yea, one of the freenoders didn't like my herd 'o cats
2008-03-11 23:08 < Newspeak_Cat> X-D
2008-03-11 23:08 < Newspeak_Cat> How'd you get un-klined?
2008-03-11 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> I asked
2008-03-11 23:09 < Newspeak_Cat> Oh
2008-03-11 23:09 < Newspeak_Cat> Well, 'night people
2008-03-11 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> although if lilo were still around
2008-03-11 23:09 < Ceiling_Cat> it never would have happened in the first place
2008-03-11 23:15 < E_Wing> Hi guys
2008-03-11 23:15 < Ceiling_Cat> Hello E_Wing
2008-03-11 23:16 < E_Wing> I thought the #wikipedia is down, so I restart it
2008-03-11 23:19 < Luna-San> Super quiet. Unhealthy.
2008-03-11 23:19 < Luna-San> Quickly, strike up a conversation.
2008-03-11 23:20 < Ceiling_Cat> there is only one solution to this
2008-03-11 23:20 * LOUD_CAT TURNS UP THE VOLUME TO 11
2008-03-11 23:21 < Luna-San> I have a feeling we're about to hear plaid. o.o
2008-03-11 23:22 < E_Wing> Phew, 80% done with the translation
2008-03-11 23:23 < Geoff_Plourde> anybody home?
2008-03-11 23:24 < Luna-San> Quiet night. All the cool kids must have something better to do on a Tuesday.
2008-03-11 23:24 < Geoff_Plourde> So who thinks merkey is nuts?
2008-03-11 23:25 < E_Wing> Luna-San: Is it tuesday evening at your country right now?
2008-03-11 23:26 < Luna-San> Yeah, I'm about at the tail end of this whole time zone deal.
2008-03-11 23:32 < Nishkid64> any admins around? I can't get into en-admins for some reason.
2008-03-11 23:35 < Random832> Nishkid64: try identifying?
2008-03-11 23:35 < Random832> try /msg chanserv invite #wikipedia-en-admins ?
2008-03-11 23:35 < Ceiling_Cat> he is identified
2008-03-11 23:35 < Ceiling_Cat> (his cloak is up)
2008-03-11 23:35 < Ceiling_Cat> oh, you need to self-invite
2008-03-11 23:36 < Ceiling_Cat> you know that, right?
2008-03-11 23:36 < Nishkid64> i've been in the admin channel for over a year...I just don't know why I can't get in right now.
2008-03-11 23:37 < Nishkid64> I get this message "An access level of [5] is required for [INVITE] on #wikipedia-en-admins"
2008-03-11 23:37 < Nishkid64> I think I have level 10...I'm an op.
2008-03-11 23:37 < Random832> i don't see you on the list at all
2008-03-11 23:37 < Ceiling_Cat> you are not on the access list
2008-03-11 23:38 < Nishkid64> did something change from last week?
2008-03-11 23:38 < E_Wing> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/xatm095/-Main-/absolutironman.jpg
2008-03-11 23:41 < Nishkid64> okay, amidaniel fixed the matter. thanks guys.
2008-03-12 00:40 < Ceiling_Cat> Riddle of the day: How is a raven like a writing desk?
2008-03-12 00:40 < Luna-San> Best I can guess is that this is some clever pun involving the word "murder."
2008-03-12 00:42 < Nishkid64> I like this response on WikiAnswers the best: "Because they're both birds except for the writing desk"
2008-03-12 00:42 < Ceiling_Cat> Luna - it's actually a very famous riddle with no true answer. Lewis Carrol proposed it in Alice in Wonderland
2008-03-12 00:42 < Ceiling_Cat> However, in the century since, several answers have been propsed
2008-03-12 00:42 < Ceiling_Cat> and my favorite is: Because Poe wrote on both
2008-03-12 00:43 < Ceiling_Cat> SEe http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_266.html
2008-03-12 00:45 < Ceiling_Cat> Btw: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hnLddmmdUZeDvASAE_LuI7B45Ydg
2008-03-12 00:46 < Luna-San> Clearly we should continue teaching teens that condoms aren't effective and who cares about safe sex, anyway? Just save it for marriage!
2008-03-12 00:46 < Luna-San> It's only not working because they're atheist devil-children.
2008-03-12 00:48 < Ceiling_Cat> holy shit
2008-03-12 00:48 < Ceiling_Cat> 2% of teen girls have herpes?
2008-03-12 00:48 < Ceiling_Cat> that's crazy...
2008-03-12 00:52 < E_Wing> Although I believe that sex must be reserved for marriage
2008-03-12 00:56 < Luna-San> I've got no particular problem with that point of view, but don't think I could date anybody who felt that way (hint: I don't)
2008-03-12 00:59 < E_Wing> :-P
2008-03-12 01:04 < Luna-San> Read a pretty good advice column the other day, somebody asking about when they should bring that sort of commitment up, in a new relationship.
2008-03-12 01:14 < E_Wing> Can someone help me in here? I'm already in an edit war already
2008-03-12 01:14 < E_Wing> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:74.12.68.207
2008-03-12 01:16 < The359> already?
2008-03-12 01:17 < E_Wing> Actually, I have reverted the page for 4 times already, not knowing that I have already exceeded the revert limit for 3rr
2008-03-12 01:20 < The359> what are you doing, removing the article he copied?
2008-03-12 01:23 < E_Wing> The359: Thanks for your concern, but I think its ok now.
2008-03-12 01:30 < Lubaf> Cure for the common herpes.
2008-03-12 01:30 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-03-12 01:30 < Lubaf> How's chlamydia?
2008-03-12 01:44 < beeboring> i bought a 3gb/sec hd, and it seems to not be any faster than 10mbytes/sec, are there any tweaks to make it 3gb/sec as advertised?
2008-03-12 01:48 < Mike42> beeboring: That's a little out of the scope of this channel. you're probably more likely to get an answer somewhere else
2008-03-12 01:49 < Mike42> #defocus is a pretty general-purpose channel, somebody there could know
2008-03-12 01:53 < mavhc> you didn't buy a 3gb/sec hd, but it should still be faster
2008-03-12 01:54 < N49> hi
2008-03-12 01:56 * Lubaf wonders how many bits in a pornobyte?
2008-03-12 01:56 < Lubaf> 38DD?
2008-03-12 01:56 < Lubaf> 39DDD?
2008-03-12 01:56 < mavhc> 69
2008-03-12 01:57 < The359> not big enough
2008-03-12 01:58 < Lubaf> The359: 50G?
2008-03-12 02:00 < N49> where are the girls here pals
2008-03-12 02:35 < DannyLilithborne> slow wikiday
2008-03-12 02:54 < m5000> can anybody help me about adobe acrobat
2008-03-12 02:56 < bumm13> apparently not.... :x
2008-03-12 03:11 < EmoBassett> Sup.
2008-03-12 03:13 < Ceiling_Cat> interesting
2008-03-12 03:14 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Alexander von Falkenhausen]]
2008-03-12 03:14 < Ceiling_Cat> Apparently Hitler thought he did such a poor job as military governor of Belgium, Hitler had him sent to a concentration camp
2008-03-12 03:15 < Ceiling_Cat> he's also one of a *tiny* number of July 20th plotters who survived the war
2008-03-12 03:15 * Hildanknight waves to ggreer
2008-03-12 03:17 < DannyLilithborne> ^.^
2008-03-12 03:17 * TheWeasel just saw a documentary of the WWI goings-on around the Navy ship of Wilhelm Canaris, later Abwehr leader and plotter who had the enormous misfortune to still be executed on April 9, 1945.
2008-03-12 03:19 < Ceiling_Cat> TheWeasel - actually, a *lot* of people were executed in the last few months of WWII
2008-03-12 03:19 < Ceiling_Cat> Hitler had a lot of grudges to settle
2008-03-12 03:19 < Ceiling_Cat> the guy who tried to blow hitler up in 1939 was executed around then too, IIRC
2008-03-12 03:19 < TheWeasel> Yup, close call though, the CC was located on the Czech border, with the Russians extremely close
2008-03-12 03:20 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Georg Elser]]
2008-03-12 03:20 < Seddon> I think being the leader of a genocidal facist regime has alot of downpoints that he obviously didnt consider properly when he gave in his CV :P
2008-03-12 03:20 < Ceiling_Cat> executed April 9, 1945
2008-03-12 03:20 * Mike_H sets off a nuke
2008-03-12 03:20 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Wzs74B0I8
2008-03-12 03:21 < TheWeasel> Seddon: There hadn't been much material for a job profile, really.
2008-03-12 03:21 < TheWeasel> before he was employed
2008-03-12 03:21 < TheWeasel> so the caveats were not that well known
2008-03-12 03:22 < Mike_H> TheWeasel: I found perhaps the dumbest Big Brother quote ever
2008-03-12 03:22 < Ceiling_Cat> goodnight
2008-03-12 03:22 < Mike_H> last year, one of our contestants described God, and she said
2008-03-12 03:22 < Mike_H> "God is so gangsta!"
2008-03-12 03:22 < TheWeasel> hehe
2008-03-12 03:22 < Seddon> true, i wonder if you can get an offical qualification in genocidal factist regimism
2008-03-12 03:23 < TheWeasel> There were colleges in South America where you could major in that.
2008-03-12 03:23 < TheWeasel> during the Cold War
2008-03-12 03:23 < TheWeasel> I still like Brooke Shields' saying "When you're dead, you've lost an important part of your life."
2008-03-12 03:24 < DannyLilithborne> People die when they are killed
2008-03-12 03:24 < Seddon> it is a big of setback in living, people being dead that is
2008-03-12 03:24 < Seddon> nit of a big*
2008-03-12 03:24 < Seddon> ibt*
2008-03-12 03:24 < Seddon> bit*
2008-03-12 03:25 * Seddon needs a new keyboard
2008-03-12 03:25 < [blackb]> i changed [[Mediwiki:Common.js]] on the admin page
2008-03-12 03:25 < TheWeasel> But then, isn't life just an STD?
2008-03-12 03:25 < [blackb]> but when i enter with other user i can't see the change
2008-03-12 03:27 < Seddon> TheWeasel: Yep everyone catches it :) but its the easiest to be cured of :P
2008-03-12 03:27 < TheWeasel> Fair.
2008-03-12 03:28 * Seddon thinks he is starting to sound like a homocidal maniac
2008-03-12 03:28 < Seddon> :P
2008-03-12 03:28 < bumm13> hiya Weasel
2008-03-12 03:28 < TheWeasel> It's not contagious either.
2008-03-12 03:28 < TheWeasel> hey
2008-03-12 03:28 < Seddon> well its hereditary :P
2008-03-12 03:29 < Seddon> most of the time
2008-03-12 03:30 < TheWeasel> people who have it should not be isolated too much though.
2008-03-12 03:30 < TheWeasel> it's cruel and unnecessary, like with leprosy
2008-03-12 03:35 < Seddon> and we should assume good faith that they dont unless its obvious :P
2008-03-12 03:35 < TheWeasel> heh, a generalized version of AGF
2008-03-12 03:36 < Seddon> :P yep
2008-03-12 03:37 < TheWeasel> now this is what I call a fair and balanced ballot http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Stimzettel-Anschluss.jpg
2008-03-12 03:37 < TheWeasel> there's no official suggestion as to what to vote here, no siree
2008-03-12 03:39 < Seddon> heh, because that would be completely against the ideals of the Nazi Party, [[Sarcasm]] :P
2008-03-12 03:40 < TheWeasel> it's just the sheer gall that gets to me here
2008-03-12 03:40 < TheWeasel> :-/
2008-03-12 03:40 < TheWeasel> Brb.
2008-03-12 03:41 < Seddon> i g2g anyway, later
2008-03-12 03:41 < TheWeasel> cheers
2008-03-12 03:47 < Lubaf> Whom art thou? Whom whom whom?
2008-03-12 03:47 < TheWeasel> why "whom" here?
2008-03-12 03:48 < TheWeasel> I'd say it's used where you'd use dative or accusative in other languages
2008-03-12 03:48 < TheWeasel> Whom art thou going with?
2008-03-12 03:50 < DannyLilithborne> Hark, thou minstrel, I goeth with Terrence to yonder castle.
2008-03-12 03:50 < AdamBishop> surely you mean "with whom"
2008-03-12 03:51 < bumm13> hiya AdamBishop
2008-03-12 03:52 < TheWeasel> Whom art thou splitting infinitives with?
2008-03-12 03:54 < TheWeasel> Splitting infinitives is a habit up with which I will not put
2008-03-12 03:55 < DannyLilithborne> so I take it you're not a fan of boldly going where no man has gone before
2008-03-12 03:57 < TheWeasel> That very probably is true.
2008-03-12 03:57 < TheWeasel> well
2008-03-12 03:57 < TheWeasel> there's the differentiation
2008-03-12 03:57 < TheWeasel> :-)
2008-03-12 03:58 < TheWeasel> I can't see why you'd scold a split infinitive and not find my sentence up there just as ugly
2008-03-12 03:58 < TheWeasel> so, no problems with it really
2008-03-12 04:03 < DannyLilithborne> ^.^
2008-03-12 04:10 < JessicaTaylor> Hello everybody
2008-03-12 04:10 < E_Wing_> Hello
2008-03-12 04:10 < AdamBishop> preved!
2008-03-12 04:15 < The359> Hi Dr. Nick
2008-03-12 04:19 < cat> *NickServ* [cat] has been killed
2008-03-12 04:19 < cat> O_o
2008-03-12 04:19 < p858snake> yeah [cat] was tasty... tad tender though
2008-03-12 04:19 < cat> O_o
2008-03-12 04:20 * cat draws over p858snake's walls with crayons
2008-03-12 04:20 * p858snake has dulux wash and wear paint so i just wash it off with a sponge
2008-03-12 04:21 * cat sprays p858snake's house with acid
2008-03-12 04:21 * cat draws over p858snake's walls with crayons
2008-03-12 04:21 * p858snake sets the dogs after cat
2008-03-12 04:21 < JessicaTaylor> poor cat 9_9
2008-03-12 04:21 * cat sets dogs back after p858snake
2008-03-12 04:21 * cat snuggles JessicaTaylor
2008-03-12 04:22 * JessicaTaylor is snuggled
2008-03-12 04:22 * p858snake catches cat in a trap and takes her to the animal pound
2008-03-12 04:24 < cat> p858snake: ummmmmmmmmm
2008-03-12 04:24 < cat> who is that?
2008-03-12 04:24 < p858snake> [[RSPCA Australia]
2008-03-12 04:27 < cat> p858snake: i mean who as in which cat?
2008-03-12 04:27 < p858snake> you
2008-03-12 04:29 < cat> her to the animal pound O_O
2008-03-12 04:29 * cat is a guy
2008-03-12 04:29 * cat pours acid over p858snake
2008-03-12 04:29 < p858snake> well i was just guessing
2008-03-12 04:29 * cat teaches p858snake about chance and data
2008-03-12 04:30 < cat> tip 1: the chances of me bein a chick is about 1:100
2008-03-12 04:30 < cat> JessicaTaylor is that 1
2008-03-12 04:30 < JessicaTaylor> hmm what?
2008-03-12 04:30 < JessicaTaylor> What happened?
2008-03-12 04:31 < cat> p858snake thought i was a chick
2008-03-12 04:31 < JessicaTaylor> Oh
2008-03-12 04:31 < JessicaTaylor> haha
2008-03-12 04:31 < JessicaTaylor> I actually couldn't tell either
2008-03-12 04:31 < JessicaTaylor> I thought he knew
2008-03-12 04:31 < JessicaTaylor> p858snake catches cat in a trap and takes her to the animal pound
2008-03-12 04:33 < p858snake> well cat is more of a famine username no offense
2008-03-12 04:33 < cat> famanine?
2008-03-12 04:33 < cat> I agree
2008-03-12 04:33 < cat> I am starving
2008-03-12 04:38 < E_Wing_> Me neither
2008-03-12 04:39 < E_Wing_> *Stuffs cat into a meatbun
2008-03-12 04:58 < JessicaTaylor> cat: haha famine nick
2008-03-12 05:00 < cat> xD
2008-03-12 05:05 < pengo> hi 'pedians
2008-03-12 05:16 < Mike_H> cat: I'm watching an old eviction from Big Brother Australia
2008-03-12 05:16 < Mike_H> and it's so weird
2008-03-12 05:16 < cat> why?
2008-03-12 05:16 < cat> show had ethics then?
2008-03-12 05:16 < Mike_H> There's a whole stadium of people cheering and the girl who got evicted is like happy she's leaving and everyone's cheering for her
2008-03-12 05:17 < Mike_H> I don't know why she's happy, she didn't win the game
2008-03-12 05:17 < Mike_H> cat: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mIbhVLK9fTk
2008-03-12 05:18 < cat> not a stadium, dreamworld studios ;)
2008-03-12 05:19 < pengo> Mike_H: is she wearing bunny ears?
2008-03-12 05:19 < Mike_H> cat: I just don't understand why everyone's so happy
2008-03-12 05:19 < Mike_H> she lost
2008-03-12 05:19 < pengo> people are happy in australia
2008-03-12 05:19 < p858snake> the merlin eviction was way better, gertel got so mad
2008-03-12 05:19 < Mike_H> Does lost mean won in Australian English?
2008-03-12 05:19 < cat> "Please excuse any language errors. Also, apologies to Frank Schulenburg for
2008-03-12 05:19 < cat> misunderstanding everything that he said during his visit to Sweden in
2008-03-12 05:19 < cat> January."
2008-03-12 05:19 < cat> rofl
2008-03-12 05:19 < Mike_H> OH MY GOD I LOST!!!!
2008-03-12 05:20 < pengo> Mike_H: it was less of a game when it started
2008-03-12 05:20 < Mike_H> "I'm so happy for you Krystal!"
2008-03-12 05:20 < Mike_H> "ME TOO!"
2008-03-12 05:20 * cat sits on Mike_H's lap
2008-03-12 05:20 * Mike_H pets cat
2008-03-12 05:20 < cat> O_o
2008-03-12 05:20 * cat jumps over to pengo
2008-03-12 05:20 < pengo> hi cat
2008-03-12 05:20 < Mike_H> I just figure you Australians can explain to me why like
2008-03-12 05:20 < Mike_H> everyone's so happy that she's gone, including her
2008-03-12 05:20 < p858snake> Mike_H: i think you mean pats cat
2008-03-12 05:20 < Mike_H> and why there's like
2008-03-12 05:21 < Mike_H> a stadium of people cheering
2008-03-12 05:21 < p858snake> wasn't she the cry baby that wouldn't shutup or something
2008-03-12 05:21 < Mike_H> I mean, she got evicted, and she's jumping about like she got cured of cancer or something
2008-03-12 05:22 < pengo> Mike_H: was she 3rd last or something?
2008-03-12 05:22 < Mike_H> no
2008-03-12 05:22 < Mike_H> she was third...third.
2008-03-12 05:22 < Mike_H> Like third to leave, in week three.
2008-03-12 05:22 < pengo> she's excited that she can go make a record deal and get into D-list celeb parties
2008-03-12 05:22 < Mike_H> it's nice to have goals
2008-03-12 05:23 < bumm13> heh
2008-03-12 05:24 < pengo> glad to have cleared that up
2008-03-12 05:25 < Mike_H> It's just odd
2008-03-12 05:25 < Mike_H> from what I can gather
2008-03-12 05:25 < Mike_H> EVERYONE watches BB in Australia
2008-03-12 05:25 < Mike_H> in the US
2008-03-12 05:25 < Mike_H> BB is that show *nobody* watches
2008-03-12 05:26 < Mike_H> except like, me
2008-03-12 05:26 < Mike42> BB?
2008-03-12 05:26 < Mike42> I've never heard of it >.<
2008-03-12 05:26 < Mike42> Big Brother *nods*
2008-03-12 05:26 < Mike42> yeah.
2008-03-12 05:27 < Mike_H> http://youtube.com/watch?v=95Zp1B9dtUQ
2008-03-12 05:27 < Mike_H> this is the most hilarious Big Brother reel ever
2008-03-12 05:27 < NotACow> Mike_H: i don't watch whatever that is.
2008-03-12 05:27 < Mike_H> Big Brother
2008-03-12 05:27 < NotACow> Mike_H: so it's not true that EVERYBODY watches it
2008-03-12 05:27 < p858snake> http://youtube.com/watch?v=en-PDG6e7-Y <from 1:28 onward
2008-03-12 05:27 < Mike_H> NotACow: I said in Australia
2008-03-12 05:27 < Mike_H> not here
2008-03-12 05:28 < Mike_H> p858snake: watch my video too
2008-03-12 05:28 < p858snake> yeah its loading
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