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2008-03-11 06:20 < E_Wing> pengo: Can you translate this please to english? "maipagkaloob ng walang bahid at pagkukunwari."
2008-03-11 06:20 < pengo> E_Wing: sorry i dont know tagalog :)
2008-03-11 06:21 < Messedrocker> hypo is the opposite of hyper
2008-03-11 06:21 < E_Wing> Aw
2008-03-11 06:21 < pengo> but "hypocritical" comes from "hypocrit"
2008-03-11 06:21 < pengo> where as "hypercritical" comes from "critical"
2008-03-11 06:22 < E_Wing> "maipagkaloob ng walang bahid" may mean "can be trusted without disgrace"
2008-03-11 06:22 < pengo> so hypocriticism doesn't quite work
2008-03-11 06:23 < Aqwis2> hypocriticalism? :)
2008-03-11 06:23 < pengo> yeah. sure. sounds good.
2008-03-11 06:23 < pengo> use it in scrabble
2008-03-11 06:23 < Aqwis2> heh
2008-03-11 06:23 < Undeference> hypocrisy...
2008-03-11 06:23 < E_Wing> I think hypocritical may do
2008-03-11 06:24 < E_Wing> As per wiktionary
2008-03-11 06:24 < pengo> good good
2008-03-11 06:24 < NotACow> heretical religious teapot destroyed
2008-03-11 06:24 < NotACow> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/08/02/wteapot02.xml
2008-03-11 06:24 < Lycurgus> actually she might not have, group hypocrisy in support of one's leaders is a fairly ubiquitous national trait
2008-03-11 06:25 < Lycurgus> since, they're usually not really leaders anywho, but rather spokespeople, typhoons, and the like
2008-03-11 06:25 < NotACow> Lycurgus: you could just ask me what i meant :)
2008-03-11 06:25 < Lycurgus> 07:17 < Lycurgus> did you mean hyper?
2008-03-11 06:25 < NotACow> of course, i'd probably give some uninformative response, since i'm just trolling you
2008-03-11 06:26 * Lycurgus whacks NotACow
2008-03-11 06:26 < NotASpy> that takes the biscuit, NotACow. Do you Americans dunk your biscuits in your tea, or is that a strange Britain only thing ?
2008-03-11 06:26 < NotACow> Lycurgus: ah, i missed that. you forgot to nametag it, so i didnt see it
2008-03-11 06:26 < E_Wing> Although I think I'll put it as "hypocrisies"
2008-03-11 06:26 < NotACow> NotASpy: mostly a british only thing. :)
2008-03-11 06:26 < NotACow> NotASpy: although i sometimes dunk my cookies in my coffee :)
2008-03-11 06:26 < Undeference> hippo crisis
2008-03-11 06:26 < E_Wing> "can be trusted without disgrace and hypocrisies"
2008-03-11 06:26 < pengo> there are a lot of books on animation script writing
2008-03-11 06:26 < NotASpy> jolly good.
2008-03-11 06:26 < E_Wing> Does that sound right?
2008-03-11 06:26 < pengo> E_Wing: doesn't sound normal
2008-03-11 06:27 < Lycurgus> monickers for free: "HypoCrissy", "Noonaut"
2008-03-11 06:27 < pengo> E_Wing: who's being/not being disgraced?
2008-03-11 06:27 < E_Wing> {{cquote|The [[Philippines]] will remain in Spain if her [[laws]] and [[civilizations]] will be given a life, if its human rights are respected, and can be trusted without disgrace and ____________.}}
2008-03-11 06:27 < E_Wing> Here's the entire translated quote
2008-03-11 06:28 < E_Wing> Original "Ang Pilipinas ay mananatiling Espanya kung maibibigyan ng buhay ang batas at sibilisasyon nito, kung ang karapatang pantao ay marerespeto at maipagkaloob ng walang bahid at pagkukunwari."
2008-03-11 06:29 < pengo> E_Wing: "disgrace" needs an object
2008-03-11 06:29 < pengo> E_Wing: e.g. without disgracing us,
2008-03-11 06:30 < pengo> E_Wing: or "without being disgraced".. but still sounds odd
2008-03-11 06:30 < E_Wing> What about replacing disgrace with dishonor
2008-03-11 06:31 < E_Wing> and the hypocritical to lies?
2008-03-11 06:31 < pengo> E_Wing: dishonor is better
2008-03-11 06:31 < NotASpy> we could do with a free photo of that giant teapot. Anybody in Malaysia with a photo ?
2008-03-11 06:32 < pengo> E_Wing: lies works
2008-03-11 06:32 < pengo> NotASpy: try flickr?
2008-03-11 06:32 < NotASpy> pengo: nothing on Flickr with a free licence.
2008-03-11 06:32 < E_Wing> pengo: Thanks for that
2008-03-11 06:32 < pengo> NotASpy: ask someone to change their license?
2008-03-11 06:33 < NotASpy> I'll have a look on other Wikipedia's first, see if they've got anything that should be on Commons.
2008-03-11 06:33 < E_Wing> but what about "and can be trusted without dishonor, shame, and lies."
2008-03-11 06:34 < pengo> E_Wing: umm whose dishonor and shame is it?
2008-03-11 06:34 < pengo> E_Wing: it guess it makes sense tho
2008-03-11 06:34 < E_Wing> pengo: To the Philippines
2008-03-11 06:34 < E_Wing> from Spain
2008-03-11 06:36 < NotASpy> pengo: http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imej:Ayah_pin.png
2008-03-11 06:37 < pengo> NotASpy: pretty crappy, but a good find
2008-03-11 06:38 < pengo> damn intolerance. destroying teapots :/ what next
2008-03-11 06:39 < NotASpy> the cups and saucers ?
2008-03-11 06:39 < [blackb]> hi all
2008-03-11 06:39 < [blackb]> i have problems with mediawiki:toolbar
2008-03-11 06:39 < NotASpy> I suppose we should really play Rick Wright's album Broken China in commemoration of the giant teapot, shouldn't we.
2008-03-11 06:39 < [blackb]> how can put the same toolbar from all client of my wiki?
2008-03-11 06:40 < NotASpy> ooh, that photo I found has the leader of the cult in the foreground. It's not some random bloke.
2008-03-11 06:41 < pengo> NotASpy: cool
2008-03-11 06:41 < E_Wing> Does anyone here encountered a problem with vandalproof?
2008-03-11 06:41 < pengo> poor tea drinkers :(
2008-03-11 06:41 < NotASpy> http://thestar.com.my/archives/2005/7/4/nation/focus0407.jpg - that is the guy in the photo, isn't it.
2008-03-11 06:44 < NotASpy> how much money does a teapot like that cost ?
2008-03-11 06:45 < pengo> depends if it was made from porcelain or architectural cement
2008-03-11 06:46 < E_Wing> By the way, are the walls of the houses in the US really made of wood?
2008-03-11 06:46 < NotASpy> http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imej:Isteri-isteri_ayah_pin.png
2008-03-11 07:36 < E_Wing> I'll be back, just transferring this laptop downstairs
2008-03-11 07:59 < Hiya> hello
2008-03-11 08:14 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-11 08:24 < rw> hi al
2008-03-11 08:25 < bgergo94> hi
2008-03-11 08:25 < bgergo94> can you help me: where can i find video abut experiments with bismuth?
2008-03-11 08:26 < rw> my first guess would be the internet
2008-03-11 08:26 < TheWeasel> thats a fairly extravagant wish
2008-03-11 08:26 < TheWeasel> bismuth ain't awfully reactive
2008-03-11 08:26 < rw> TheWeasel, heya
2008-03-11 08:26 < TheWeasel> so it probably wouldn't be all that fun
2008-03-11 08:26 < TheWeasel> hey
2008-03-11 08:26 < rw> bgergo94, just search one of the main video portals
2008-03-11 08:26 < TheWeasel> brb
2008-03-11 08:27 < bgergo94> i haven't found bismuth on them
2008-03-11 08:27 < rw> what sites did you use? :)
2008-03-11 08:27 < bgergo94> google video, expertvillage
2008-03-11 08:28 < rw> hm, i'm just browsing the former and i think there are indeed some usefull videos on that
2008-03-11 08:28 < bgergo94> i didn't know the expertvillage so it can be a very big mistake searching on it
2008-03-11 08:28 < bgergo94> and how can i save them onto pendrive
2008-03-11 08:28 < bgergo94> in hungarian: download
2008-03-11 08:29 < rw> hm, usually with an extra download programm
2008-03-11 08:30 < rw> additional*
2008-03-11 08:33 < rw> beautifull though
2008-03-11 08:49 < Lycurgus> is "comming" (present progressive of come) right?
2008-03-11 08:50 < Lycurgus> somehow neither it nor "coming" look right.
2008-03-11 08:50 < Lycurgus> guess it's the latter though
2008-03-11 08:51 < NotACow> "comming" is not a word as far as i know
2008-03-11 08:51 < NotACow> coming is correct
2008-03-11 08:51 < Kissaki> coming
2008-03-11 08:56 < Lycurgus> yeah the phonetic inconsistency of English is urksome. Nederlands is great there.
2008-03-11 08:56 < Lycurgus> *irksome
2008-03-11 08:57 < kenlyric> it's not irksome, it's exciting
2008-03-11 08:57 < kenlyric> you never know what you're gonna get
2008-03-11 08:57 < kenlyric> german influence, french influence, some other random influence
2008-03-11 09:00 < Kamping_Kaiser> kenlyric, the word 'gonna' is a perfect example :P
2008-03-11 09:01 < kenlyric> well, that's at least informal slang.
2008-03-11 09:02 < DawnLight> whatcha gonna do bout it?
2008-03-11 09:06 < Hildanknight> Which of these clauses is better?
2008-03-11 09:06 < Hildanknight> 1. I have written another article about a Singaporean movie...
2008-03-11 09:06 < Hildanknight> 2. I have written an article about another Singaporean movie...
2008-03-11 09:18 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hi all
2008-03-11 09:20 < NotACow> bleeeeep
2008-03-11 09:20 < The359> beep boop?
2008-03-11 09:22 < NotACow> bloop bee padoop
2008-03-11 09:22 < ta_bu_shi_da_yu> riveting
2008-03-11 09:23 < The359> bebop?
2008-03-11 09:27 < Lycurgus> hey big fish
2008-03-11 09:27 < Lycurgus> not
2008-03-11 09:27 < NotACow> TROUT
2008-03-11 09:27 < Crookbbz> FISH
2008-03-11 09:27 < The359> OH CARP!
2008-03-11 09:27 < Crookbbz> lol
2008-03-11 09:29 < NotACow> STOP FLOUNDERING ABOUT
2008-03-11 09:29 < Crookbbz> So
2008-03-11 09:30 < Crookbbz> this is #wikipedia
2008-03-11 09:30 < NotACow> no, it's not.
2008-03-11 09:30 < Crookbbz> =o
2008-03-11 09:31 < NotACow> it's actually #buttsex
2008-03-11 09:31 < NotACow> didn't you notice?
2008-03-11 09:31 < Crookbbz> Oh well
2008-03-11 09:31 < Crookbbz> even better :)
2008-03-11 09:31 < NotACow> lots of people make that mistake
2008-03-11 09:32 < Crookbbz> Then I have stumbled in to a happy place
2008-03-11 09:38 < Crookbbz> #wikipedia is full of fags :)
2008-03-11 09:39 < The359> !op
2008-03-11 09:39 < E_Wing> Ive got an Mfd here
2008-03-11 09:39 < E_Wing> please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Laziale93Laziale93%26action%3Dedit%26section%3Dnew
2008-03-11 09:41 < The359> is it just me or was Crookbbz on a Government IP?
2008-03-11 09:41 < E_Wing> Probably based on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Laziale93&action=edit
2008-03-11 09:42 < The359> just speedy it, E_Wing?
2008-03-11 09:55 < Hildanknight> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:218.186.9.5&curid=7541521&diff=197479551&oldid=185602473
2008-03-11 09:55 < Hildanknight> A rather profane unblock request.
2008-03-11 09:56 < The359> those are the best kind
2008-03-11 09:56 < Hildanknight> Could an admin please take care of it?
2008-03-11 09:58 < mexicanbanana> "Rodman Edward "Rod" Serling (December 25, 1924 – June 28, 1975) was an American screenwriter, best known for his live television dramas of the early 1960s and his science fiction anthology TV series, The Twilight Zone." <-- LIVE?!
2008-03-11 09:58 < mexicanbanana> I'm 100% sure that The Twilight Zone was not live.
2008-03-11 09:58 < Cyrius> slow down and reread
2008-03-11 09:58 < Cyrius> live television dramas + The Twilight Zone
2008-03-11 09:58 < mexicanbanana> Oooh.
2008-03-11 09:58 < mexicanbanana> Sorry.
2008-03-11 09:59 < mexicanbanana> I didn't know there was ever such a thing as a live TV drama, though.
2008-03-11 09:59 < mexicanbanana> They had more live shows back in the day, I guess.
2008-03-11 09:59 < The359> Hildanknight, found an admin yet?
2008-03-11 10:01 < Hildanknight> The359: Yes.
2008-03-11 10:03 < The359> Guess some members of Starhub wont be editing Wikipedia for a while
2008-03-11 10:10 < quanticle> The359: Did you block the entire range?
2008-03-11 10:12 < The359> I'm not an admin
2008-03-11 10:12 < The359> But whoever the admin was, he blocked the user from editing his own talk page
2008-03-11 10:12 < The359> meanins someone else can't request an unblock
2008-03-11 10:15 < Wizardman> !copyeditor
2008-03-11 10:15 < The359> I don't think that's an actual command
2008-03-11 10:16 < Wizardman> guess not. though I could use one right now if anyone's not too busy
2008-03-11 10:18 < Wizardman> wow, league of copyeditors is backlogged. gues that doesn't work
2008-03-11 10:36 < The359> damn
2008-03-11 10:36 < The359> hard to believe the F-117 Nighthawk will be no more in a few weeks
2008-03-11 10:37 < Cyrius> didn't know that
2008-03-11 10:37 < Cyrius> wasn't a good military investment
2008-03-11 10:37 < The359> On March 11, 2008 CNN reported that the last F-117s in service would touch down on April 22, 2008 in Tonopah Test Range Airfield in Nevada, the site of the F-117's first flight.[39]
2008-03-11 10:41 < Lady_Aleena> I asked this earlier, but is there anyone here that would be willing to do a little proofreading for me?
2008-03-11 10:41 < toresbe> hey guys
2008-03-11 10:41 < toresbe> Why doesn't the GNAA have an article?
2008-03-11 10:42 < Lady_Aleena> What is GNAA?
2008-03-11 10:42 < toresbe> gnaa.us, a rather silly troll organization
2008-03-11 10:42 < toresbe> but still quite notable
2008-03-11 10:43 < The359> Not according to consensus
2008-03-11 10:43 < toresbe> Consensus? Is there talk page somewhere?
2008-03-11 10:43 < Aqwis2> how many AFDs did it go through?
2008-03-11 10:43 < The359> Several
2008-03-11 10:43 < Aqwis2> the talk page has been deleted
2008-03-11 10:43 < The359> The Nominations for deletion
2008-03-11 10:43 < toresbe> how convenient..
2008-03-11 10:43 < The359> are still there
2008-03-11 10:43 < Demi> what would one call the 'time' command if you couldn't call it 'time'?
2008-03-11 10:44 < Lady_Aleena> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/GNAA
2008-03-11 10:44 < toresbe> Lady_Aleena: cheers
2008-03-11 10:44 < Lady_Aleena> Now that that is out of the way, can I get a proof reader? Pretty please?
2008-03-11 10:44 < Aqwis2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gay_Nigger_Association_of_America_%2818th_nomination%29
2008-03-11 10:44 < Aqwis2> 18 nominations
2008-03-11 10:44 < The359> wonder why the 11th nomination is missing
2008-03-11 10:44 < Aqwis2> *sigh*
2008-03-11 10:45 < quanticle> Demi: Clock
2008-03-11 10:46 < quanticle> demi: Timer and stopwatch work too
2008-03-11 10:46 < Lady_Aleena> Please someone read this and give me an opinion of the writing style and make sure that my grammar is correct. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lady_Aleena/Television/Crossovers#Article_draft
2008-03-11 10:46 < Demi> clock's not bad
2008-03-11 10:47 < Demi> i think i will go with that
2008-03-11 10:47 < Lady_Aleena> If I couldn't call time time, I would call it temporal movement through space I guess.
2008-03-11 10:48 < Lady_Aleena> The 4th dimension
2008-03-11 10:48 < toresbe> Frankly, that's rediculous.
2008-03-11 10:48 < Lucifer_Cat> i'd just call it insanely retarded
2008-03-11 10:48 < Lucifer_Cat> ridiculous
2008-03-11 10:48 < Aqwis2> what?
2008-03-11 10:48 < toresbe> Lucifer_Cat: I always get that one wrong :)
2008-03-11 10:48 < toresbe> the GNAA bit, it's absolutely on crack
2008-03-11 10:49 < quanticle> Lady_Aleena: First, temporal_movement_through_space is a really long function name. Second, what's the structure of the article you're trying to write? It looks like a bunch of random crossovers with nothing tying them together.
2008-03-11 10:49 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: hey there, long time.
2008-03-11 10:49 < Lady_Aleena> quanticle: I have yet to add headings to it, and it is still being written. I just want to know if it sounds okay.
2008-03-11 10:49 < Aqwis2> toresbe, i can't find you in the phone book ;|
2008-03-11 10:49 < quanticle> Hey, its Lucifer_Cat! Long time no see...
2008-03-11 10:49 < Lucifer_Cat> midterm madness?
2008-03-11 10:49 < Lady_Aleena> So far
2008-03-11 10:49 < toresbe> Aqwis2: you can't?
2008-03-11 10:50 < toresbe> I'm in there.
2008-03-11 10:50 < Lucifer_Cat> under what name?
2008-03-11 10:50 < Aqwis2> http://www.gulesider.no/tk/search.c?q=Tore+Sinding+Bekkedal&x=0&y=0
2008-03-11 10:50 < toresbe> That's the yellow pages, Aqwis2
2008-03-11 10:50 < toresbe> oh wait, no
2008-03-11 10:50 < toresbe> what!? That's odd
2008-03-11 10:50 < Aqwis2> no
2008-03-11 10:50 < Aqwis2> the white ones
2008-03-11 10:50 < Aqwis2> ;|
2008-03-11 10:50 < Lucifer_Cat> no racist comments okay.
2008-03-11 10:50 < toresbe> Aqwis2: google me, it's on my contact page.
2008-03-11 10:50 < quanticle> Lady_Aleena: Yeah. It sounds ok so far. Ask me to check again once the headings are in.
2008-03-11 10:50 < Lady_Aleena> quanticle: I made the mistake and started writing the article from the middle of the list instead of the top.
2008-03-11 10:51 < toresbe> Aqwis2: why, though?
2008-03-11 10:51 < Aqwis2> *shrug*
2008-03-11 10:51 < Lady_Aleena> quanticle: That will be a week or two from now. I have to get all the links right and make sure of my sources.
2008-03-11 10:52 < Lady_Aleena> Just to write what was is there now has taken a few days.
2008-03-11 10:52 < The359> Lady_Aleena
2008-03-11 10:52 < The359> That's rather hard to read
2008-03-11 10:52 < The359> And your paragraphs are incredibly short
2008-03-11 10:53 < The359> It's like a list attempting to be written in paragraph form
2008-03-11 10:53 < Lucifer_Cat> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10014617 <---- not really sfw
2008-03-11 10:53 < The359> which just doesn't work
2008-03-11 10:53 < mexicanbanana> What is that song called that goes like "I'm not a baby I'm a big girl" and it's like a little girl singing and it goes like "mammi-mii-ma" or something in the refrain?
2008-03-11 10:54 < Lady_Aleena> The359, I know, it needs headings. I really should have started at the top, but starting from the middle makes creating headings a problem.
2008-03-11 10:54 < The359> what retard gos to a forum to ask people how he can avoid spreading a picture of his shemale porn folder, THEN POSTS SAID SCREENSHOT?!
2008-03-11 10:55 < Lady_Aleena> Where?
2008-03-11 10:55 < The359> I also like that he took the time to scratch out his girlfriend's MSN name
2008-03-11 10:55 < The359> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10014617
2008-03-11 10:55 < Demi> that's funny, i wouldn't have thought Lady_Aleena would be the type to want to watch shemales spread.
2008-03-11 10:56 < The359> Lady_Aleena, I think you need to merge a couple of those paragraphs
2008-03-11 10:56 < mexicanbanana> What is that song called that goes like "I'm not a baby I'm a big girl" and it's like a little girl singing and it goes like "mammi-mii-ma" or something in the refrain?
2008-03-11 10:56 < The359> Ones with two sentences are just not right
2008-03-11 10:56 < NotACow> http://nonbovine-ruminations.blogspot.com/2008/03/wikipedia-quality-wiki.html <- whee!
2008-03-11 10:57 < Lady_Aleena> The359: I can't decide how to merge them, yet.
2008-03-11 10:59 < Lucifer_Cat> shes fat
2008-03-11 11:00 < The359> who?
2008-03-11 11:03 < Lucifer_Cat> that guys gf
2008-03-11 11:05 < Lucifer_Cat> http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/
2008-03-11 11:06 < Lady_Aleena> I combined some of the paragraphs, but I am not sure I combined the right ones. :S
2008-03-11 11:07 < The359> he's no winner either, Lucifer_Cat
2008-03-11 11:09 < Lady_Aleena> Trying to keep this article as chronological as possible is a problem if I want to avoid short two sentence paragraphs.
2008-03-11 11:10 < The359> why should it be chronological?
2008-03-11 11:11 < Lady_Aleena> It is the best way that I found to organize the information. I didn't want to skip from the 80s back to the 60s then to the 00s.
2008-03-11 11:11 < The359> it doesn't have to be exact
2008-03-11 11:12 < The359> Grammar and layout before chronology, I say
2008-03-11 11:12 < Lucifer_Cat> what article we talking bout?
2008-03-11 11:12 < Lady_Aleena> I will try to remember that...this is the first article I have ever written where there are any reference tags.
2008-03-11 11:12 < The359> ....
2008-03-11 11:13 < Lady_Aleena> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lady_Aleena/Television/Crossovers#Article_draft is the rough draft of an article I am writing.
2008-03-11 11:13 < Lady_Aleena> very very very rough draft
2008-03-11 11:17 < Lady_Aleena> I write a sentence, check the links to other articles, if the articles don't have the information on them, I have to get the reference and tag it. Then, next sentence. Each sentence takes me about 10 minutes due to a slow internet connection.
2008-03-11 11:19 < quanticle> Hmmm, have we already had the discussion about whether Wikipedia should sell ads?
2008-03-11 11:19 < quanticle> As per the new article on Slashdot?
2008-03-11 11:21 < Lady_Aleena> brb
2008-03-11 11:22 < Cyrius> quanticle: like in 2003, the mere hint of which caused eswiki to fork
2008-03-11 11:23 < Cyrius> fortunately I think people aren't going to be quite as trigger-happy
2008-03-11 11:24 < NotACow> quanticle: wikipedia is gong to have to sell ads if it can't come up with money somehow else.
2008-03-11 11:26 < quanticle> NotAcow: Yeah. That last fundraiser was a pretty dismal failure, no?
2008-03-11 11:26 < quanticle> Cyrius: eswiki?
2008-03-11 11:27 < NotACow> quanticle: it was a decent result, it's just that they've decided to spend money like water for some insane reason.
2008-03-11 11:27 < Cyrius> spanish wikipedia
2008-03-11 11:27 < quanticle> Cyrius: Ah. Ok.
2008-03-11 11:28 < Cyrius> it was 2002, sorry
2008-03-11 11:28 < Cyrius> see [[Enciclopedia Libre]]
2008-03-11 11:32 < [blackb]> i Have a problem with my wiki
2008-03-11 11:33 < [blackb]> i modified toolbar with root user
2008-03-11 11:33 < [blackb]> in common.js
2008-03-11 11:33 < [blackb]> but now other users can't see modification onlt root see thet
2008-03-11 11:33 < Pilotguy_aw> [blackb]- #mediawiki
2008-03-11 11:34 < quanticle> [blackb]: #mediawiki would probably be the place to ask
2008-03-11 11:36 < [blackb]> i m asking :) but anyone can help me :P
2008-03-11 11:38 < Pilotguy> [blackb]- Sadly no one here gives a shit about the software
2008-03-11 11:38 < [blackb]> ah i didnt' know sorry :)
2008-03-11 11:39 < Pilotguy> No worries
2008-03-11 11:40 < Sfan00> NotACow: Does jimbo have to sumbit expenses for items over 25 USD now?
2008-03-11 11:47 < Lucifer_Cat> really? does he?
2008-03-11 11:47 < Lucifer_Cat> i actually missed out on the whole controversy. sounded like tabloid gossip so i skipped it
2008-03-11 11:51 < quanticle> Sfan00: Was this controversy before or after his former girlfriend sold his tuff?
2008-03-11 11:51 < quanticle> *stuff
2008-03-11 11:52 < Sfan00> qunticle: It was a parital joke, there's been a fuss about Jimbo's expenses
2008-03-11 11:52 < Sfan00> And in oher news UK MP's now have to submit 'proof' for expenses over 25 UKP, (it was previously 200 UKP IIRC)
2008-03-11 11:53 < Demi> that's more or less the same as me
2008-03-11 11:53 < quanticle> Sfan00: Ah. Heh. I guess I would have caught on sooner had I lived in the UK.
2008-03-11 11:56 < SuperGeek> ello
2008-03-11 11:56 < SuperGeek> 'ello*
2008-03-11 11:56 < NotACow> http://nonbovine-ruminations.blogspot.com/2008/03/wikipedia-quality-valentine-day.html
2008-03-11 12:02 < Lucifer_Cat> troll
2008-03-11 12:02 < NotACow> TROLL!
2008-03-11 12:02 < The359> ?
2008-03-11 12:03 < CalJohn> I've seen on some talk pages, an infobox used to list current aims of a page. I'm new to wikipedia; how do I do that?
2008-03-11 12:03 < CalJohn> (current editting aims, I mean)
2008-03-11 12:03 < Miranda> CalJohn: talk page welcome?
2008-03-11 12:03 < The359> edit the talk page, the template should be listed there
2008-03-11 12:03 < The359> no, I think he means a list of "to-do"s
2008-03-11 12:04 < CalJohn> The359: I do
2008-03-11 12:04 < CalJohn> The359: ok, one second
2008-03-11 12:04 < The359> are you planning to add this template to another article?
2008-03-11 12:05 < CalJohn> The359: yeah
2008-03-11 12:05 < The359> which one?
2008-03-11 12:05 < CalJohn> The359: there's been some discussion about what edits we should do (it's a little contentious) and now we're at agreement, I think a list of agreed aims would help
2008-03-11 12:05 < CalJohn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:People%27s_Park_%28Berkeley%29
2008-03-11 12:05 < CalJohn> We're not _quite_ there yet, mind
2008-03-11 12:06 < The359> alright
2008-03-11 12:06 < Miranda> CalJohn: what's your username?
2008-03-11 12:06 < CalJohn> Miranda: CalPaterson
2008-03-11 12:07 < CalJohn> erm, so how do I do it?
2008-03-11 12:07 < Miranda> k what do you want to do?
2008-03-11 12:08 < CalJohn> Miranda: I just want to know how to make the "todo" lists on talkpages
2008-03-11 12:08 < Miranda> oh....
2008-03-11 12:08 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Todo
2008-03-11 12:08 < The359> That explains how to use the template
2008-03-11 12:08 < CalJohn> ty
2008-03-11 12:08 < Miranda> yeah
2008-03-11 12:09 < TheWeasel> hehe... my chess database uses the word "Czechia"
2008-03-11 12:09 < SuperGeek> Can anyone here recommend a good antivandalbot to run on my Wiki
2008-03-11 12:10 < TheWeasel> ah, the Czech government considers "Czech" cromulent, never mind
2008-03-11 12:10 < TheWeasel> *Czechia
2008-03-11 12:10 < Miranda> SuperGeek: might want to contact cobi
2008-03-11 12:11 < SuperGeek> Miranda: Cobi?
2008-03-11 12:11 < Miranda> SuperGeek: [[en:User:Cobi]]
2008-03-11 12:11 < SuperGeek> Ok.
2008-03-11 12:12 < SuperGeek> Miranda: Oh, he's the operator of ClueBOt?
2008-03-11 12:12 < Miranda> yep
2008-03-11 12:12 < CalJohn> Miranda: out of curiousity, why did you want to know my username?
2008-03-11 12:12 < SuperGeek> Miranda: Would you mind clarifying something with me? What's the difference between ClueBot I, II, etc?
2008-03-11 12:12 < Miranda> SuperGeek: you have to ask Cobi that...
2008-03-11 12:13 < SuperGeek> Heh, ok
2008-03-11 12:13 < Miranda> CalJohn: in order to see what you wanted?
2008-03-11 12:13 < Miranda> because there are many talk page templates....
2008-03-11 12:14 < CalJohn> fair dos
2008-03-11 12:15 < The359> Julian Fantino, the seemingly authoritarian commissioner of Ontario's provincial police force has proposed new legislation that would lead to officers handing out tickets to anyone who puts their car into a ditch during a snowstorm.
2008-03-11 12:15 < The359> Ontario — Canada's most populous province — recently introduced legislation to impound for a week the vehicle of anyone caught driving 31 mph over the speed limit.
2008-03-11 12:15 < quanticle> The359: Why's that? Does Ontario pay to send tow trucks out?
2008-03-11 12:16 < quanticle> The359: Not 30 mph?
2008-03-11 12:16 < The359> I think they're implying that if you put a car into a ditch, you were driving too fast for the conditions
2008-03-11 12:16 < Lucifer_Cat> 31 is weird
2008-03-11 12:16 < CalJohn> quanticle: 31 probably comes about due to phrases like "over 30 mph"
2008-03-11 12:16 < The359> 31mph is 50km/h
2008-03-11 12:16 < CalJohn> quanticle: it's common in UK law, at least
2008-03-11 12:16 < Lucifer_Cat> ahhh thought so
2008-03-11 12:16 < scorchsaber_> CalJohn: Just what I was going to say. :P
2008-03-11 12:16 < The359> Canadians use km/h
2008-03-11 12:17 < The359> Fantino also recently said he supports lowering the impoundment threshold from 31 mph (50 km/h) to 18 mph (30 km/h). That would mean anyone caught traveling 18 mph over the speed limit would have their car seized on the spot for a week and face a fine of $2,000 to $10,000 for stunt driving.
2008-03-11 12:17 < scorchsaber_> ah, there we go
2008-03-11 12:17 < quanticle> The359: Ah. You should have mentioned that.
2008-03-11 12:17 < Lucifer_Cat> sweet
2008-03-11 12:17 < The359> I was just copying/pasting
2008-03-11 12:17 < The359> They didn't convert at first
2008-03-11 12:18 < The359> Fantino said he thinks anyone whose car slides off the highway in bad weather should be fined, even if there is no evidence of careless driving or excessive speed.
2008-03-11 12:18 < quanticle> The359: Its like when American newscasters report on Iran violating some treaty banning missiles that fly farther than 62miles. Somebody asked me, "Why 62 miles?" I looked it up, and 62 mi == 100 km, so its a nice round number in the metric system.
2008-03-11 12:18 < Lucifer_Cat> this Fantino is a bit of a jerk apparently
2008-03-11 12:18 < The359> apparently
2008-03-11 12:19 < quanticle> The359: So, is there any chance that these new rules will become official?
2008-03-11 12:19 < Lucifer_Cat> i mean car sliding off the highway could be some other issue not quite in control of the driver
2008-03-11 12:19 < CalJohn> The359: well, if the state has a monopoly on car retrival, surely the fine could just be covering the costs?
2008-03-11 12:19 < CalJohn> could that be the case?
2008-03-11 12:19 < The359> Not at the moment, quanticle
2008-03-11 12:20 < The359> I don't think they have a monopoly, CalJohn
2008-03-11 12:20 < The359> But I think if a cop responds to the call, then I guess they have to use the government towing
2008-03-11 12:20 < quanticle> The359: Ah. That's good to hear. So he's just another crackpot politician looking for attention?
2008-03-11 12:21 < The359> you could just call the AAA equiviliant in Canada
2008-03-11 12:21 < quanticle> The359: CAA?
2008-03-11 12:21 < The359> I think they have the CAA
2008-03-11 12:21 < The359> not sure
2008-03-11 12:21 < CalJohn> I always find the "American Automobile Association" a funny name
2008-03-11 12:22 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Automobile_Association
2008-03-11 12:22 < The359> yep
2008-03-11 12:22 < CalJohn> here in the UK, it is just the "Automobile Association". American companies seem to like to shout about it :)
2008-03-11 12:22 < The359> even have an almost identical logo
2008-03-11 12:22 < The359> Apparently AAA no longer goes by "American Automobile Association", CalJohn
2008-03-11 12:23 < The359> They are simply "AAA"
2008-03-11 12:23 < CalJohn> orly
2008-03-11 12:23 < The359> No longer an acronym
2008-03-11 12:24 < Lucifer_Cat> orgy
2008-03-11 12:26 < The359> ogre
2008-03-11 12:27 < quanticle> CalJohn: Y'know what else I find funny? How the Canadian divisions of these American companies always find a way to fit a maple leaf into their logos.
2008-03-11 12:29 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-11 12:30 < Warpath> >:(
2008-03-11 12:31 * The359 wonders if he should put this article up for Peer Review already
2008-03-11 12:31 * Ceiling_Cat shines a spotlight on The359
2008-03-11 12:31 < The359> wut?
2008-03-11 12:32 < Ceiling_Cat> Well, you have the stage
2008-03-11 12:32 < Ceiling_Cat> say something
2008-03-11 12:32 * Ceiling_Cat increases the spotlight and adds more cowbell
2008-03-11 12:32 < The359> no?
2008-03-11 12:32 < CalJohn> quanticle: haha, I've noticed that too
2008-03-11 12:34 < CalJohn> The359: I can't put that todo up; this editor is being really difficult about making changes to the page. He's reverted me once, and I've now spent days discussing it on the talk page with him. I just want to fix the damn article now. Advice? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:People%27s_Park_%28Berkeley%29)
2008-03-11 12:35 < CalJohn> He seems to want me to discuss every change I plan to make with him. I don't see the point of a wiki encyclopedia if this is the general practice.
2008-03-11 12:35 < CalJohn> The359: It took him 3 days to acknowledge that a single quotation was totally wrongly used, and missourced to boot.
2008-03-11 12:36 * Ceiling_Cat drops off the ceiling, latches onto Cometstyles on the way down
2008-03-11 12:36 < NotACow> CalJohn: welcome to wikipedia :)
2008-03-11 12:36 < CalJohn> NotACow: :(
2008-03-11 12:37 < Cometstyles> urgh, fat cat :S
2008-03-11 12:37 * NotACow wonders if she can get Barack Obama deFAed.
2008-03-11 12:37 < Aqwis2> already been through two FARs
2008-03-11 12:37 < CalJohn> NotACow: this is insane. No one is making any progress and the talk page is much bigger than the article now.
2008-03-11 12:37 < NotACow> Aqwis2: i wonder how many people are trying to keep it because they support his candidacy :)
2008-03-11 12:37 < Aqwis2> mmmm
2008-03-11 12:38 < quanticle> CalJohn: Yeah. As NotACow stated, welcome to Wikipedia.
2008-03-11 12:38 < NotACow> CalJohn: meh, the article only got 3000 pageviews in february. who the hell cares?
2008-03-11 12:38 < CalJohn> I think, if it carries on much longer, I'll just go ahead and fix everything
2008-03-11 12:38 < quanticle> Some people "claim" articles, and appoint themselves as gatekeepers, and take any outside "interference" as a personal insult.
2008-03-11 12:39 < CalJohn> NotACow: the importance of history is not judged by pageviews :(
2008-03-11 12:39 < quanticle> CalJohn: That's a good way to get reverted...
2008-03-11 12:39 < NotACow> the article i just critiqued in my blog got 2.36 million in the same time.
2008-03-11 12:39 < quanticle> NotACow: Are those critiques posted?
2008-03-11 12:39 < NotACow> quanticle: yes
2008-03-11 12:39 < CalJohn> quanticle: so, what should I do?
2008-03-11 12:40 < NotACow> http://nonbovine-ruminations.blogspot.com/2008/03/wikipedia-quality-valentine-day.html
2008-03-11 12:40 < NotACow> http://nonbovine-ruminations.blogspot.com/2008/03/wikipedia-quality-wiki.html
2008-03-11 12:42 < quanticle> NotACow: Ooh. Good use of "pastiche"...
2008-03-11 12:42 < NotACow> quanticle: i'm glad you approve of my diction :)
2008-03-11 12:43 < NotACow> i try to vary my word usage ;)
2008-03-11 12:44 < quanticle> NotACow: One critique of your Valentines' Day write-up: Its expected that most of the coverage of Valentines day would be for Europe and North America, since that's where the holiday originated. There's really very little Valentines' Day tradition in Asia or Africa...
2008-03-11 12:45 < NotACow> quanticle: well, according to the article there actually is some tradition in asia :)
2008-03-11 12:46 < quanticle> NotACow: Well there might have been some "day where you give the one you're courting gifts" tradition, since most cultures have something like that. However, the "Valentines' Day" tradition (in Asia) at least is pretty much purely from Western marketing.
2008-03-11 12:47 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: hallmark, cadbury's and archies
2008-03-11 12:48 < NotACow> quanticle: also, the article does identify some related traditions in other countries that are "romance days" but not valentine's day
2008-03-11 12:48 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: Yeah. Valentines Day in Asia is much like Halloween. It doesn't resemble the Western version at all, since its created purely from the marketing that surrounds the actual holiday.
2008-03-11 12:49 < Lucifer_Cat> i've never seen halloween being celebrated in asia
2008-03-11 12:49 < Lucifer_Cat> india rather
2008-03-11 12:49 < LetsGo67> The article "Dance Praise (series)" received an AfD, and it has seven keeps and zero deletes. Can someone please withdraw the AfD, please?
2008-03-11 12:49 < Lucifer_Cat> im not qualified to speak bout the rest of asia
2008-03-11 12:50 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: I haven't heard of any celebrations of Halloween taking off in India, but I have heard of marketers trying to promote it.
2008-03-11 12:51 < Lucifer_Cat> hmm well yeah, since i ignore marketing....
2008-03-11 12:52 < quanticle> Lucifer_Cat: You in India right now?
2008-03-11 12:53 < Lucifer_Cat> nope
2008-03-11 12:53 < Lucifer_Cat> DC
2008-03-11 12:53 < quanticle> Ah. Ok. I was going to say that the only way I hear about these things is from relatives, so I guess the same thing must apply to you?
2008-03-11 12:53 < The359> way to be a couple thousand miles off
2008-03-11 12:54 < Lucifer_Cat> lol The359
2008-03-11 12:54 < quanticle> The359: Heh.
2008-03-11 12:54 < Lucifer_Cat> quanticle: well not quite, i was talking from the time i was there - cpl years back
2008-03-11 12:55 < Lucifer_Cat> though friends/relatives do come back with stuff like this
2008-03-11 12:57 < Lucifer_Cat> this Spitzers daughters are quite likable
2008-03-11 12:59 < Sfan00> quanticle: Halloween is a seculer festival anyway
2008-03-11 12:59 < Sfan00> I thought Hindu culture had it's own equivlants?
2008-03-11 12:59 < Lucifer_Cat> halloween? none that i know of
2008-03-11 13:00 < quanticle> Sfan00: I don't know enough about my own culture to be answering that question...
2008-03-11 13:00 < Lucifer_Cat> and i would KNOW if there was a festival where we got free sweets
2008-03-11 13:00 * quanticle is not a scholar of Hindu culuture
2008-03-11 13:00 < Lucifer_Cat> >_< ... must ignore typos
2008-03-11 13:01 < quanticle> Ack. I just noticed the extra 'u'...
2008-03-11 13:01 < Sfan00> HAloween is essentially a European festival
2008-03-11 13:01 < Sfan00> (and Celtc/Pagan in origins)
2008-03-11 13:01 < Sfan00> The modern thing prmoted is somewhat removed...
2008-03-11 13:01 < NotACow> quanticle: btw, part of my criticism is that the article talks about "other cultures" and then proceeds to talk about European culture. :)
2008-03-11 13:02 < Lucifer_Cat> Sfan00: you mean the part about crappy movies and spiked sweets?
2008-03-11 13:02 < quanticle> Its funny to think how many Christian holidays are actually pagan holidays that have been co-opted. For example - Christmas == Winter Solstice, Easter == Vernal Equinox...
2008-03-11 13:04 < Demi> Michaelmas == Plunderday
2008-03-11 13:05 < quanticle> Michaelmas?
2008-03-11 13:05 * quanticle has never heard of that holiday
2008-03-11 13:06 < Sfan00> Hi
2008-03-11 13:06 < Sfan00> Any experts on hill-walking or mountanius weather ?
2008-03-11 13:06 < quanticle> Hill-walking? You mean hill-climbing?
2008-03-11 13:06 < Lucifer_Cat> well i do love hiking and stuff, but im no expert enough to write about it on wiki
2008-03-11 13:06 < Sfan00> quanticle: As in wlaks on Snowdon
2008-03-11 13:07 < Demi> dress in layers
2008-03-11 13:07 < Sfan00> It relates to a news item on Wikinews
2008-03-11 13:07 < Sfan00> http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Greater_Manchester_Police_Chief_found_dead&oldid=594722
2008-03-11 13:07 < noclip> bah
2008-03-11 13:08 < noclip> have any of you ever written a discrete cosine transform in c++?
2008-03-11 13:08 < NotACow> i didn't know that cosines could be discreet.
2008-03-11 13:08 < Sfan00> I am trying to figure out why someone that should have known about poor conditions was on Snowdon...
2008-03-11 13:08 < noclip> i guess not
2008-03-11 13:08 < noclip> and i can see why
2008-03-11 13:09 < noclip> it's a pain in the ass
2008-03-11 13:11 < noclip> although i am generally a complete failure at math -> code
2008-03-11 13:11 < noclip> which more or less makes me a shitty programmer
2008-03-11 13:12 < NotACow> noclip: i never was good at numerical computing.
2008-03-11 13:12 < NotACow> noclip: i never took CS 415.
2008-03-11 13:14 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR REDIRECTS!
2008-03-11 13:14 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACF_Regionals_answers
2008-03-11 13:15 < Lucifer_Cat> noclip: im never gonna give you up.
2008-03-11 13:15 < Ceiling_Cat> NotACow - write me an article on the greatest named case ever, [[Airport Commissioners v. Jews for Jesus]]
2008-03-11 13:15 < Lucifer_Cat> noclip: im never gonna let you down.
2008-03-11 13:15 < noclip> feh
2008-03-11 13:16 < noclip> lucifer_cat: you willing to help?
2008-03-11 13:16 < noclip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_cosine_transform#DCT-II
2008-03-11 13:16 < Lucifer_Cat> maths makes my head explode. im sorry.
2008-03-11 13:17 < noclip> alright
2008-03-11 13:17 < Lucifer_Cat> i prefer meth OD to math OD
2008-03-11 13:17 < noclip> i imagine both at the same time would be quite amusing
2008-03-11 13:18 < scorchsaber_> noclip: If amusing is a killing spree, yes.
2008-03-11 13:19 < noclip> "time to integrate some bullets, INTO YOUR HEAD"
2008-03-11 13:20 < scorchsaber_> Alright, I want to know the logic behind "If you don't support abortion, don't have one"
2008-03-11 13:20 < scorchsaber_> Doesn't that equally apply to "If you don't support rape, don't rape anybody"?
2008-03-11 13:20 < anon32> scorchsaber_, no, because rape isn't a decision you make for yourself...
2008-03-11 13:20 < scorchsaber_> Some people think abortion is wrong, some people think it's alright. Same with rape.
2008-03-11 13:21 < scorchsaber_> anon32: Thaty assumes that you think the fetus isn't a person
2008-03-11 13:21 < scorchsaber_> anon32: In order to prove to the other side that they should support that position, you have to take their views into account
2008-03-11 13:21 < scorchsaber_> anon32: You can't convince anybody of anything if you just expound your own views some more.
2008-03-11 13:21 < scorchsaber_> anon32: What if I don't think other people matter?
2008-03-11 13:21 < scorchsaber_> Then I could easily argue the rape scenario, ignoring your views entirely.
2008-03-11 13:23 < noclip> glad that's over
2008-03-11 13:23 < scorchsaber_> noclip: I don't want it to be over
2008-03-11 13:23 < scorchsaber_> I want somebody to prove me wrong, dammit.
2008-03-11 13:23 < noclip> we've completely solved the issue of abortion
2008-03-11 13:23 < noclip> in under a minute
2008-03-11 13:23 < noclip> on IRC
2008-03-11 13:23 < anon32> yep, it turns out that abortion == rape
2008-03-11 13:23 < anon32> so THAR
2008-03-11 13:24 < scorchsaber_> anon32: Argument by ridicule is a fallacy.
2008-03-11 13:24 < anon32> that makes my mother a... BABY RAPER
2008-03-11 13:24 < anon32> scorchsaber_, argument by phallus is a phallacy too
2008-03-11 13:24 < scorchsaber_> anon32: Make a logical argument if you disagree with what I say, don't mindlessly dismiss it.
2008-03-11 13:24 < scorchsaber_> anon32: You lose out if you do that, not anybody else.
2008-03-11 13:24 < anon32> the thing is, I don't really care one way or the other
2008-03-11 13:25 < anon32> so I see no reason to argue with you
2008-03-11 13:25 < scorchsaber_> anon32: Then don't say anything.
2008-03-11 13:25 < scorchsaber_> anon32: Because right now you are arguing with me, via ridicule.
2008-03-11 13:25 < anon32> why not? I'm entitled to say what I want until someone bans me.
2008-03-11 13:25 < scorchsaber_> anon32: It's a fallacious argument, but an argument nonetheless
2008-03-11 13:25 < scorchsaber_> anon32: I'm not ordering you, I'm asking you.
2008-03-11 13:25 < anon32> learn to recognize sarcasm and humor. Thanks.
2008-03-11 13:25 < scorchsaber_> anon32: Ridicule is sarcasm and humor.
2008-03-11 13:26 < anon32> yes, so deal with it
2008-03-11 13:26 < scorchsaber_> anon32: It's also not valid argument.
2008-03-11 13:26 < anon32> and I'm not (trying) to argue with you
2008-03-11 13:26 < anon32> but it seems you drew me into a meaningless argument anyway
2008-03-11 13:26 < scorchsaber_> you made the decision each time to respond, not me.
2008-03-11 13:26 < anon32> you just responded there
2008-03-11 13:26 < scorchsaber_> Yes, because I made the decision to respond.
2008-03-11 13:27 < scorchsaber_> I enjoy this.
2008-03-11 13:27 < scorchsaber_> If you don't, just don't respond. :P
2008-03-11 13:29 < Ulti> is there anyway to make a sortable table start out sorted by one column?
2008-03-11 13:33 < Ceiling_Cat> (cur) (last) 18:32, 11 March 2008 Raul654 (Talk | contribs | block) (29 bytes) (#REDIRECT Conduction band --- this is what happens when Matt Weiner edits science)
2008-03-11 13:33 * Ceiling_Cat teeheees
2008-03-11 13:33 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: editors less than you have been blocked for summaries like that.
2008-03-11 13:33 < Ceiling_Cat> NotACow - that's a quiz bowl inside joke
2008-03-11 13:34 < Ceiling_Cat> Matt Weiner is one of the best players in the nation
2008-03-11 13:34 < Ceiling_Cat> BUT
2008-03-11 13:34 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: inside jokes are dangerous
2008-03-11 13:34 < Ceiling_Cat> his achilles heel is science
2008-03-11 13:34 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: there's hundreds of matt weiners out there, and one of them will take it the wrong way.
2008-03-11 13:34 < Ceiling_Cat> NotACow - except that redirect comes from a list made from teh Matt Weiner who plays quiz bowl
2008-03-11 13:35 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: it's really hard to convince editors to use edit summaries responsibly when community leaders do not.
2008-03-11 13:41 < nsh> "The BIS is like the cashier's window at a racetrack or casino, where you'd place a bet or cash in chips, except on a massive scale: BIS is where the U.S. settles trade imbalances with Saudi Arabia for all that oil we guzzle and gives China IOUs for the tainted drugs and lead-based toys we buy."
2008-03-11 13:47 < Cometstyles> Ceiling_Cat, Seraphim's RfA has ended, so can you give her a Whipp now? ;D
2008-03-11 13:47 < Cometstyles> on nvm, my UTC fails :|
2008-03-11 13:48 < AppleBoy> gah, updating a wiki is a bitch :(
2008-03-11 13:48 < Cometstyles> Apple thats why its a wiki, or we would have called it a forum :P
2008-03-11 13:48 < Cometstyles> AppleBoy,*
2008-03-11 13:48 < AppleBoy> Cometstyles: the forum is just annoying to complete the theme
2008-03-11 13:49 < Cometstyles> XD
2008-03-11 13:49 < amidaniel> forumpedia ...
2008-03-11 13:49 < Cometstyles> forum+wiki = Friki XD XD
2008-03-11 13:50 < AppleBoy> globulation2.org , check that sucker out :P
2008-03-11 13:51 * AppleBoy shamlessely enters plug
2008-03-11 13:52 < AppleBoy> we need more developers, currently 4 of us doing the heavy lifting
2008-03-11 13:52 < eth01> developers for?
2008-03-11 13:53 < eth01> ah
2008-03-11 13:53 < eth01> nevermind :)
2008-03-11 13:54 < Ceiling_Cat> wow - a greek mythology article that didn't exist
2008-03-11 13:55 < Ceiling_Cat> you don't see those on wikipedia often
2008-03-11 13:56 < scorchsaber_> AppleBoy: Could you write down what language the programmers need to know somewhere on the main page (preferably under "Programmers")? :P
2008-03-11 13:57 < catzilla> where can i find a list of all extant wikipedia articles?
2008-03-11 13:58 < catzilla> or.. is there a url i can query to determine whether a given article exists without loading the whole thing?
2008-03-11 13:58 < Messedrocker> metal zero suit samus!!
2008-03-11 13:59 * Ceiling_Cat shoots Messedrocker with Pitt's bow
2008-03-11 13:59 < AppleBoy> scorchsaber_: sure, c++ :)
2008-03-11 13:59 < Messedrocker> PIT
2008-03-11 13:59 < Messedrocker> ONE "T"
2008-03-11 13:59 < Messedrocker> YOU'RE FROM THE 80s YOU SHOULD KNOW
2008-03-11 13:59 < Cyrius> catzilla: http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20080103/
2008-03-11 13:59 < Cyrius> list of page titles
2008-03-11 13:59 < catzilla> muchas gracias
2008-03-11 13:59 < Cyrius> it's outdated
2008-03-11 14:00 < scorchsaber_> AppleBoy: Damn you. :|
2008-03-11 14:00 < catzilla> oh
2008-03-11 14:00 < catzilla> that's a good start at least. any way to get updated info though?
2008-03-11 14:01 < Messedrocker> what's that thing Lucas always shouts?
2008-03-11 14:01 < Messedrocker> PK Thunder?
2008-03-11 14:01 < AppleBoy> scorchsaber_: or we need someone good with html/css/slight php to finish up our phpbb theme
2008-03-11 14:01 < catzilla> oh wait 17 gb... heh
2008-03-11 14:01 < catzilla> nm page titles 25mb
2008-03-11 14:02 < scorchsaber_> AppleBoy: Nah, I was looking for something in Python, C#, Java, C... something I know or really want to learn. :P
2008-03-11 14:02 < Cyrius> catzilla: there's an API, but I don't know anything about it
2008-03-11 14:03 < catzilla> ok
2008-03-11 14:04 < Cyrius> it seems that if you retrieve http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=info&titles=Main%20Page
2008-03-11 14:04 < Cyrius> it'll tell you if it exists or not
2008-03-11 14:04 < NotACow> the API is mean
2008-03-11 14:04 < NotACow> it makes you log in :(