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2008-03-10 22:21 < NotACow> Demi: oh, yeah
2008-03-10 22:21 < Mike_H> I wonder what Kimberly Drummond would be
2008-03-10 22:21 < NotACow> Mike_H: a lesbian.
2008-03-10 22:21 < quanticle> NotACow: Those too, but I was talking about the under $100 quality headphones.
2008-03-10 22:21 < Mike_H> you know, other than a stripper or whatever she ended up becoming
2008-03-10 22:21 < Demi> Mike_H - there have been those various incidents where offensive printed matter has been seized at the canadian border... dirty comic books and so forth
2008-03-10 22:21 < NotACow> wow, she's dead.
2008-03-10 22:22 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: If you can watch via tor
2008-03-10 22:22 < Mike_H> watch this it's lulz
2008-03-10 22:22 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9niAG8Zymu0
2008-03-10 22:22 < Mike_H> a very young Jodie Foster
2008-03-10 22:22 < Mike_H> on an episode of The Partridge Family
2008-03-10 22:23 < Demi> NotACow - in the uk there is, or will be, a ban on "violent pornography", whatever that means, and the british board of film censors is pretty famous
2008-03-10 22:23 < Demi> (for banning a clockwork orange, among other things)
2008-03-10 22:23 < Demi> in finland it's illegal to burn the flag
2008-03-10 22:24 < Demi> "Exceeding Level 3: Not To Be Sold To The Public" <- from [[Censorship in Australia]]
2008-03-10 22:25 < Mike_H> Oh, God, I found a show from the same time period that kind of made me vomit in my mouth a little
2008-03-10 22:25 < Mike_H> Love American Style :(
2008-03-10 22:25 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Wzs74B0I8
2008-03-10 22:26 < Demi> "The banning of Ken Park has attracted considerable media attention and political protest. Prominent movie reviewer Margaret Pomeranz, former host of The Movie Show on SBS and now host of At the Movies on ABC, was arrested (and later cautioned and released) along with several others after attempting to screen what she described as “a wonderful film” at a hall." <- As Yakov Smirnoff would say, What a country!
2008-03-10 22:26 < Mike_H> That's a show that can be erased from TV history, for sure
2008-03-10 22:26 < Mike_H> Well, Yakov's show
2008-03-10 22:27 < Mike_H> AND Love American Style
2008-03-10 22:27 * Demi puts pants on
2008-03-10 22:28 < Mike_H> God, the lyrics and singing in the theme song are so insipid
2008-03-10 22:28 < Mike_H> it's like a fucking Mentos ad
2008-03-10 22:30 < Demi> "1931: Frankenstein banned in Kansas for its portrayal of cruelty."
2008-03-10 22:31 < Random832> hmm
2008-03-10 22:31 < Random832> speaking (vaguely) of mentos
2008-03-10 22:31 < Random832> has anyone done the mentos + diet coke experiment?
2008-03-10 22:31 < Demi> ah, Nekromantik, which i've actually seen, was banned in australia
2008-03-10 22:32 < Mike_H> Love Australian Style
2008-03-10 22:32 < Mike_H> Starring
2008-03-10 22:32 < Mike_H> Meryl Streep
2008-03-10 22:32 < Mike_H> a dingo
2008-03-10 22:32 < Random832> does anyone know if the... mento? ... is consumed by the process?
2008-03-10 22:32 < Demi> i think mentos is a substance, not an object
2008-03-10 22:32 < Demi> kind of like kudos
2008-03-10 22:32 < Random832> ok
2008-03-10 22:32 * Mike_H gives Demi kudos
2008-03-10 22:33 < Mike_H> Do they still make that anymore?
2008-03-10 22:33 < Mike_H> That is so 1991.
2008-03-10 22:33 * Demi gives Mike_H Kodos the Executioner
2008-03-10 22:33 < Random832> but anyway, do you know if the piece of candy in question is consumed by the process of causing a diet coke eruption?
2008-03-10 22:33 < Demi> they do
2008-03-10 22:33 < Demi> in fact we have a giant box of kudos right now
2008-03-10 22:33 < Mike_H> I distinctly remember Kudos
2008-03-10 22:33 < Demi> they're candy bar flavored
2008-03-10 22:33 < Mike_H> with that girly-looking cursive writing
2008-03-10 22:33 < Mike_H> and a commercial
2008-03-10 22:33 < Demi> Random832 - probably just the shell
2008-03-10 22:33 < Mike_H> with Lisa Bonet
2008-03-10 22:33 < Mike_H> the woman who ate no basil
2008-03-10 22:33 < Mike_H> but would eat Kudos.
2008-03-10 22:33 < quanticle> Mmmm.... Kudos.
2008-03-10 22:33 < quanticle> NOM NOM NOM
2008-03-10 22:34 < Demi> "1989 Visions of Ecstasy is banned under blasphemy laws, and is presently the only film banned in the UK due to blasphemy."
2008-03-10 22:34 < Demi> seriously, what the hell is wrong with states? i'm going to go anarchist along with golbez here
2008-03-10 22:35 < Mike_H> I'm disappointed
2008-03-10 22:35 < quanticle> Demi: What? What's so bad about that movie?
2008-03-10 22:35 < Mike_H> there is no article on [[Lisa Bonet ate no basil]]
2008-03-10 22:35 < Mike_H> Maybe I should redirect it to palindrome
2008-03-10 22:35 < Demi> it's BLASPHEMOUS!
2008-03-10 22:35 < Demi> i don't know
2008-03-10 22:35 < Demi> but that's the worst reason for banning a film i've ever heard
2008-03-10 22:35 < Demi> not that i think there are any good ones
2008-03-10 22:36 < Demi> maybe it says that Eli Sundy is a false prophet and god is a superstition
2008-03-10 22:36 < Demi> "2003: Bruce Almighty banned due to the images of Turkey. Banned Outright" <- huh?
2008-03-10 22:37 < Demi> borat seems to have been pretty well-banned
2008-03-10 22:37 < Demi> okay, i'm off, ttyl
2008-03-10 22:37 * Demi &
2008-03-10 22:43 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-03-10 22:44 < Ceiling_Cat> (MOAR CATZ!)
2008-03-10 22:44 < Mike_H> I'm a cat
2008-03-10 22:44 < Mike_H> I'm a kitty cat
2008-03-10 22:44 < Mike_H> and I dance dance dance
2008-03-10 22:44 < Mike_H> and I dance dance dance.
2008-03-10 22:44 < bumm13> =^o.o^=
2008-03-10 22:46 * bumm13 bums around aimlessly
2008-03-10 22:46 < Ceiling_Cat> any programmers around with nothing better to do?
2008-03-10 22:47 < bumm13> alas, I don't fulfill the first requirement
2008-03-10 22:47 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Depends on what you want me to do...
2008-03-10 22:47 < Ceiling_Cat> write me a python function that takes a string and returns true or false depending on whether or not wikipedia has an article with that name
2008-03-10 22:48 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: When do you need it?
2008-03-10 22:48 < Ceiling_Cat> in the next hour or so
2008-03-10 22:48 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Oh. Well that's a bit... quick.
2008-03-10 22:48 < Ceiling_Cat> I had one written, but apparently it's not working right now
2008-03-10 22:48 < Isis> how can i talk to an admin and appeal a ban that was not approved by the arbitration commitee?
2008-03-10 22:48 < Ceiling_Cat> (or you can debug mine)
2008-03-10 22:48 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: You want to send over yours?
2008-03-10 22:49 < Ceiling_Cat> Isis - are you user:Isis?
2008-03-10 22:49 < Isis> no
2008-03-10 22:49 < Isis> user:Lir
2008-03-10 22:50 < Ceiling_Cat> That's cute - one banned user using the username of another banned user
2008-03-10 22:50 < Ceiling_Cat> anyway, quanticle - you want me to email it to you?
2008-03-10 22:51 < quanticle> Yeah, sure. I'll PM you my e-mail address.
2008-03-10 22:52 < Ceiling_Cat> sent
2008-03-10 22:52 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: he was in here a few days ago
2008-03-10 22:52 < Mike_H> he used the name Isis then too
2008-03-10 22:54 < Ceiling_Cat> Well, for those of you who never had the pleasure of dealing with him, he's a real prick
2008-03-10 22:54 < Ceiling_Cat> community poison
2008-03-10 22:55 < Ceiling_Cat> the problem is
2008-03-10 22:55 < bumm13> someone guessed last time that it was Lir
2008-03-10 22:55 < bumm13> I thought he was in N. Iowa?
2008-03-10 22:56 < Ceiling_Cat> He used to go to grad school there
2008-03-10 22:56 < Ceiling_Cat> that may no longer be the case
2008-03-10 22:56 < bumm13> that IP seems to indicate N. Texas
2008-03-10 22:56 < bumm13> (north of DFW)
2008-03-10 22:56 < bumm13> it's the same ISP as last time
2008-03-10 22:57 * bumm13 +q_ed him last time he was in here
2008-03-10 22:57 < Warpath> O_O
2008-03-10 22:58 * Warpath re-facehuggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-03-10 22:59 * Ceiling_Cat puts on his wizard robe and hat
2008-03-10 23:01 < FastLizard4> I think Isis is a Star Trek reference, but I could be wrong
2008-03-10 23:02 < quanticle> FastLizard4: I think Isis is an Egyptian god reference, but I could be wrong
2008-03-10 23:02 < Ceiling_Cat> Isis was the wife of Horus
2008-03-10 23:02 < Ceiling_Cat> no, sorry
2008-03-10 23:02 < Ceiling_Cat> Wife of Osirus, mother of Horus
2008-03-10 23:02 < NotACow> i thought osirus was her brother
2008-03-10 23:02 < Ceiling_Cat> when Osirus was dismembered, she rebuilt him out of mud, and had sex with the body to become pregnant
2008-03-10 23:03 < Ceiling_Cat> </quiz bowl knowledge>
2008-03-10 23:03 < Leslie_S> why does society try to force women to go through crazy hoops just to look good anyway?
2008-03-10 23:03 < NotACow> Leslie_S: to keep us from saving up enough money to be independent.
2008-03-10 23:03 < Leslie_S> heh.
2008-03-10 23:04 < Leslie_S> NotACow i tried waxing my legs. failed. the stuff i used was a total ripoff, nowhere near enough to do a useful amount of work. also, ripped some skin off. and ...it hurts like hell.
2008-03-10 23:04 < quanticle> Off to bed... By all
2008-03-10 23:04 < Leslie_S> NotACow so i considered professional waxing...$50 for a full leg wax!
2008-03-10 23:04 < quanticle> *Bye, rather
2008-03-10 23:04 < RobJ1981> $50 seems a bit much.
2008-03-10 23:04 < bumm13> later
2008-03-10 23:08 < RobJ1981> Hello?
2008-03-10 23:09 < FastLizard4> Ha!
2008-03-10 23:09 < FastLizard4> Read the last two lines of text: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Copyleft_All_Wrongs_Reserved.png
2008-03-10 23:09 < Random832> the idea that women shouldn't have hair on their legs dates back only to the post-WWII era
2008-03-10 23:09 < NotACow> Leslie_S: wax is fun
2008-03-10 23:10 * NotACow has hairy legs :)
2008-03-10 23:10 < Ceiling_Cat> The ACF script is running
2008-03-10 23:11 < Ceiling_Cat> *[[Japan]] - found
2008-03-10 23:11 < Ceiling_Cat> *[[Ramsar Convention wetland]] - found
2008-03-10 23:11 < Ceiling_Cat> *[[Kingdom of the Netherlands]] - found
2008-03-10 23:11 < Ceiling_Cat> *[[Kingdom of Belgium]] - found
2008-03-10 23:11 < Ceiling_Cat> etc etc
2008-03-10 23:12 < Lycurgus> any franophones here? I'm wondering what Sarkozy said to the guy who wouldn't shake his hand.
2008-03-10 23:12 < Leslie_S> Random832 heh.
2008-03-10 23:12 < Leslie_S> anyway, im gonna continue not having hair on my legs. i like the look.
2008-03-10 23:12 < Leslie_S> and i wanna be hot as a girl :o
2008-03-10 23:13 * Leslie_S thinks she can pull it off
2008-03-10 23:13 < Lycurgus> to urself?
2008-03-10 23:13 * NotACow needs to start reviewing the top articles for quality
2008-03-10 23:13 < Lycurgus> you could be a hot couple.
2008-03-10 23:13 < Leslie_S> to myself?
2008-03-10 23:13 < Leslie_S> are you saying i cant be hot?
2008-03-10 23:14 < Lycurgus> no, I'm saying it's hot to be a 1 person couple
2008-03-10 23:16 < Leslie_S> ....
2008-03-10 23:16 < RobJ1981> Why the dots?
2008-03-10 23:17 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.oyez.org/cases/1980-1989/1986/1986_86_104/ <-- Best court case name EVER
2008-03-10 23:17 < Krimpet> "Ellipsis (plural ellipses; from Greek ἔλλειψις 'omission') in printing and writing refers to the row of three full stops (…, . . . or [...]) or, less often, asterisks (***) indicating an intentional omission. This punctuation mark is also called a suspension point, points of ellipsis, periods of ellipsis, or colloquially, dot-dot-dot. An ellipsis is sometimes used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought or, at the end of
2008-03-10 23:18 < Ceiling_Cat> "Airport Commissioners v. Jews for Jesus"
2008-03-10 23:18 < ggreer> hah, that's great
2008-03-10 23:18 < Krimpet> Ceiling_Cat: haha
2008-03-10 23:18 < Ceiling_Cat> (sounds like a basketball match you might see at the local Y)
2008-03-10 23:18 < Leslie_S> Ceiling_Cat lol
2008-03-10 23:18 < RobJ1981> :P Most of the time when I see people post dots, it usually means no comment.
2008-03-10 23:18 < Lycurgus> i wonder if there are jews for allah/mohammed, would make more sense.
2008-03-10 23:18 < Ceiling_Cat> basketball game*
2008-03-10 23:19 < ggreer> Ceiling_Cat: now to regain our 2nd amendment rights in airports :)
2008-03-10 23:20 < FastLizard4> [21:18:53] =-= User mode for FastLizard4 is now +6
2008-03-10 23:20 < FastLizard4> *NickServ* Toggled UnFiltered [ON]
2008-03-10 23:20 < Ceiling_Cat> I think I should be allowed to pack heat in an airport
2008-03-10 23:20 < FastLizard4> I thought only letters could be usermodes!
2008-03-10 23:20 < Ceiling_Cat> if I want to bring a SAM missile on the back of my truck to the airport with me, why shouldn't I be able to?
2008-03-10 23:20 < ggreer> Ceiling_Cat: actually you can, but you can't bring it past security
2008-03-10 23:20 < ggreer> you can check weapons in your luggage though
2008-03-10 23:21 < Krimpet> I was stopped at airport security last week for having a harmonica in my luggage...
2008-03-10 23:21 < Ceiling_Cat> ggreer - it's a felony to shine a laser point at a plane
2008-03-10 23:21 < Ceiling_Cat> what do you think they'd do if you showed up with a SAM on teh back of your car?
2008-03-10 23:21 < Ceiling_Cat> a laser pointer*
2008-03-10 23:23 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACF_Regionals_answers#2008_Regionals
2008-03-10 23:23 < Ceiling_Cat> RED LINKS!
2008-03-10 23:23 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR RED LINKS!
2008-03-10 23:25 < Ceiling_Cat> (could someone be nice and remove the blue links, plz)
2008-03-10 23:25 * Krimpet whips out her delete button
2008-03-10 23:27 * FastLizard4 whips out his ANI button
2008-03-10 23:28 < NotACow> FastLizard4: keep your collection of posterior digestive orifices out of this
2008-03-10 23:29 < FastLizard4> :\
2008-03-10 23:29 * FastLizard4 dosen't see the logic in that
2008-03-10 23:30 < FastLizard4> LOL! http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
2008-03-10 23:30 < NotACow> FastLizard4: ani is the plural of anus, by some lights :)
2008-03-10 23:31 < Warpath> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Isis
2008-03-10 23:31 < Warpath> hehe
2008-03-10 23:31 < FastLizard4> o_O
2008-03-10 23:31 < FastLizard4> NotACow: See http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
2008-03-10 23:32 < NotACow> FastLizard4: hehe
2008-03-10 23:32 < RobJ1981> I can't believe people are so against a recent video game featured article on Wikipedia. Sometimes people need to get over it, and realize every feature article shouldn't be something that they know and love.
2008-03-10 23:33 < NotACow> RobJ1981: NEVER!
2008-03-10 23:33 < NotACow> RobJ1981: i have the right to demand that only articles i approve of are featured
2008-03-10 23:33 < NotACow> RobJ1981: that's what anarchy is all about!
2008-03-10 23:34 < NotACow> RobJ1981: wikipedia, where everyone is in charge! all at the same time!
2008-03-10 23:34 < RobJ1981> In case people don't know what I'm talking about.... see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB_re-rating_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion
2008-03-10 23:37 * Mike_H watches Adria shoot herself in the foot on Big Brother 5
2008-03-10 23:37 < Mike_H> oh, God, I love this part <3
2008-03-10 23:44 < Ceiling_Cat> If someone is bored and needs a wiki-job, could you please remove the blue links from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ACF_Regionals_answers#2008_Regionals
2008-03-10 23:46 < gwern> Kepler? I don't even know 'er!
2008-03-10 23:50 * FastLizard4 is now going to bed, good night!
2008-03-10 23:59 < RobJ1981> The Melting Pot is a good restaurant to go to. It's a fondue restaurant located in the USA. I went there over the weekend.
2008-03-11 00:00 < Random832> gonna have to be more specfic than "in the USA" unless it's a national chain
2008-03-11 00:01 < RobJ1981> It's in several states.
2008-03-11 00:01 < Rinn> Never heard of it.
2008-03-11 00:02 < Werdna> wow, a bot ended up with +sysop
2008-03-11 00:02 < Random832> what bot?
2008-03-11 00:02 < Random832> did the open proxy bot finally go through?
2008-03-11 00:02 < Werdna> RedirectCleanupBot
2008-03-11 00:02 < Werdna> last october
2008-03-11 00:02 < Random832> damn
2008-03-11 00:03 < RobJ1981> I did a check: Melting Pot is in over half of the 50 US states.
2008-03-11 00:04 < Random832> ok
2008-03-11 00:07 < Mike_H> Random832: We have melting pots all over Florida. Maybe it just isn't where you are.
2008-03-11 00:07 < Mike_H> It's a fairly nice restaurant chain.
2008-03-11 00:07 < nokmar> haven't seen any over in CA
2008-03-11 00:08 < RobJ1981> I doubt I would go back for the same thing I got, but I would just go there again for the chocolate.
2008-03-11 00:08 < Random832> from the wikipedia article on it (which, by the way, sucks), it's based in florida
2008-03-11 00:08 < Random832> i checked their website, there are two locations in the state of indiana, both in the indianapolis area
2008-03-11 00:09 < nokmar> gah
2008-03-11 00:09 < nokmar> the restaurant edited it
2008-03-11 00:09 < nokmar> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Melting_Pot_%28restaurant%29&diff=194191268&oldid=190311167
2008-03-11 00:10 < Random832> so if cheese fondue is melted cheese
2008-03-11 00:10 < Random832> and chocolate fondue is melted chocolate
2008-03-11 00:10 < Random832> what is beef fondue?
2008-03-11 00:10 < RobJ1981> You dip the meat into sauces.
2008-03-11 00:10 < Random832> no melted beef?
2008-03-11 00:11 < RobJ1981> They give you raw meat, you cook it in sauce... plus they give you other sauces to just use on it.
2008-03-11 00:11 < Random832> i wonder what temperature it would take to melt beef
2008-03-11 00:11 < Random832> holy crap is it really after 1am?
2008-03-11 00:11 < Random832> daylight savings sucks
2008-03-11 00:11 < RobJ1981> Nope... it's only after 12 am. :P
2008-03-11 00:12 < Random832> night all
2008-03-11 00:24 < JasonBourne> hi i would like to buy wikipedia
2008-03-11 00:24 < JasonBourne> how much is it currently valued at?
2008-03-11 00:25 < jeremyb> JasonBourne: have you read the GFDL?
2008-03-11 00:25 < Warpath> JasonBourne, 50cents inc. taxes
2008-03-11 00:30 < Ceiling_Cat> JasonBourne - one hundred billion billion dollars
2008-03-11 00:30 < Ceiling_Cat> in small, circulated, unmarked denominations
2008-03-11 00:30 < Demi> i bid 400 quatloos for the newcomer!
2008-03-11 00:34 < Mark_Ryan> bumm13 for the win
2008-03-11 00:36 < Warpath> hey I know jerkface :P
2008-03-11 00:42 < jeremyb> Ceiling_Cat: what does it mean to be "NOT FOUND"?
2008-03-11 00:43 < Ceiling_Cat> jeremyb - it means my script didn't find it
2008-03-11 00:44 < jeremyb> find it *where*?
2008-03-11 00:44 < Ceiling_Cat> in the 2008 ACF regionals packets
2008-03-11 00:44 < Ceiling_Cat> it took all the answers from the 2008 regioanls
2008-03-11 00:44 < Ceiling_Cat> and checked them against wikipedia
2008-03-11 00:44 < Ceiling_Cat> if there was a match, it printed "found"
2008-03-11 00:44 < Ceiling_Cat> if not, it printed "NOT FOUND"
2008-03-11 00:44 < Ceiling_Cat> I filtered out the ones that were found
2008-03-11 00:44 < Ceiling_Cat> and pasted the not found ones there
2008-03-11 00:45 < RobJ1981> hi
2008-03-11 00:46 < Ceiling_Cat> hi
2008-03-11 00:46 < RobJ1981> whats up
2008-03-11 00:49 < jeremyb> Ceiling_Cat: so... basically it's useless given that it made it to the list to begin with? i interpreted the difference between 2008 and the other years as significant
2008-03-11 00:50 < Werdna> anybody here been to wikimania before?
2008-03-11 00:50 < Ceiling_Cat> Werdna - yes
2008-03-11 00:51 < Ceiling_Cat> jeremyb - no, a lot of those are *famous* things
2008-03-11 00:51 < Ceiling_Cat> I'm *shocked* we don't have some of them
2008-03-11 00:51 < Ceiling_Cat> [[Argonauts of the Western Pacific]]
2008-03-11 00:51 < jeremyb> Ceiling_Cat: huh? how is that relevant
2008-03-11 00:51 < Ceiling_Cat> jeremyb - the list is of articles we need
2008-03-11 00:51 < Ceiling_Cat> red links to be filled in
2008-03-11 00:51 < jeremyb> i know!
2008-03-11 00:52 < jeremyb> it doesn't say NOT FOUND in one section and does in the other
2008-03-11 00:52 < jeremyb> the NOT FOUND is pointless
2008-03-11 00:52 < jeremyb> it's enough just to check for red or blue
2008-03-11 00:52 < Ceiling_Cat> it was useful for filtering out hte found ones
2008-03-11 00:52 < Ceiling_Cat> but it's useless now
2008-03-11 00:52 < Werdna> Ceiling_Cat: worth it?
2008-03-11 00:52 < jeremyb> in addition to being useless it confused me. idk if it's confusing to anyone else
2008-03-11 00:53 < Ceiling_Cat> Werdna - I enjoyed it greatly
2008-03-11 00:53 < RobJ1981> Almost time for poker.
2008-03-11 00:58 < Werdna> http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships
2008-03-11 00:58 < Werdna> whee
2008-03-11 00:59 < privatemusings> g'day werdna.....
2008-03-11 00:59 < privatemusings> what's this about scholarships?
2008-03-11 01:00 < privatemusings> I'm interested in scholarplanes if there are any.....
2008-03-11 01:00 < Ceiling_Cat> Most of that list needs very simple redirects
2008-03-11 01:00 < Ceiling_Cat> Opsins to Opsin, for example
2008-03-11 01:01 < Ceiling_Cat> although [[Rational expectations theory]] was a missing redirect that had lots of links
2008-03-11 01:02 < Werdna> hey privatemusings
2008-03-11 01:02 < Werdna> privatemusings: dd you ever get pics from that meetup?
2008-03-11 01:03 < Werdna> Ceiling_Cat: I'm pondering attending.
2008-03-11 01:03 < privatemusings> no - and I can't even remember who took them....
2008-03-11 01:03 < Demi> what is with people and their damn downtime?
2008-03-11 01:03 < Demi> i mean, seriously, folks, jee
2008-03-11 01:03 < Demi> z
2008-03-11 01:04 < Casull> There seems to be a huge edit war between Neights and R.Fiend right now...
2008-03-11 01:20 < Casull> Hey, is it possible to create your own template message? I'd like to create a custom one to use agaisnt vandals, but I don't want to use the default ones.
2008-03-11 01:20 < oysterguitarist> yes
2008-03-11 01:21 < Casull> Oh sweet, where can I find help on how to do that?
2008-03-11 01:22 < Ceiling_Cat> just go to [[template:fill in blank]]
2008-03-11 01:22 < Ceiling_Cat> and create it
2008-03-11 01:22 < Ceiling_Cat> where "fill in blank" is whatever you want to call it
2008-03-11 01:23 < Casull> Hmmm...
2008-03-11 01:23 < Casull> should it be that or {{this kind of template for user notices}}?
2008-03-11 01:23 < Demi> read [[Help:Templates]]
2008-03-11 01:24 < Casull> Thanks
2008-03-11 01:32 < Ceiling_Cat> OH SNAP
2008-03-11 01:32 < Ceiling_Cat> John Macdonald, of the Macdonald triad, died
2008-03-11 01:46 < Ceiling_Cat> NEW YORK - Two-thirds of Americans polled last month said they support the idea of televising executions — and 21 percent said they’d pay to watch Osama bin Laden put to death.
2008-03-11 01:46 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4353934/
2008-03-11 01:46 < Ceiling_Cat> Eleven percent said they would pay to see Saddam Hussein executed.
2008-03-11 01:49 < Werdna> weird opinions, eh?
2008-03-11 01:49 < Werdna> people love getting into these "us v. them" mentalities.
2008-03-11 01:49 < Werdna> it makes things so simple
2008-03-11 01:53 < Ceiling_Cat> anyone here know latex?
2008-03-11 02:02 < bumm13> hiya bishonen
2008-03-11 02:03 < bishonen> hi
2008-03-11 02:03 * Werdna tickles bishonen
2008-03-11 02:03 < Lubaf> Ceiling_Cat: I have some liquid latex around here somewhere.
2008-03-11 02:04 < Lubaf> Got it as a gag gift, and promptly forgot it.
2008-03-11 02:04 * bishonen werdles tickleshonen
2008-03-11 02:04 < Werdna> o_O
2008-03-11 02:04 < Werdna> poor tickleshonen
2008-03-11 02:05 < Werdna> uh oh
2008-03-11 02:05 * Werdna runs.
2008-03-11 02:05 < bishzilla> [affectionately] Little werdna! voted for zilla admin!
2008-03-11 02:06 < Werdna> did I?
2008-03-11 02:06 * bishzilla breathes gently on werdna. Look good with curling hair!
2008-03-11 02:06 < Lubaf> bishzilla: You coming back anytime soon?
2008-03-11 02:06 < bishzilla> "fast-track to Steward!" Ahhh!
2008-03-11 02:07 < bishzilla> lubaf: sorry, little 'shonen delete zilla page. :-(
2008-03-11 02:07 < bishzilla> zilla spend life climbing up and down Reichstag now! :-(
2008-03-11 02:08 < bishzilla> followed by baby sock Bishapod
2008-03-11 02:08 < bishzilla> (=Little Stupid)
2008-03-11 02:10 < Werdna> bishzilla: I didn't even have an account when you became an admin :P
2008-03-11 02:11 < bishzilla> were you even born?
2008-03-11 02:11 < bishzilla> :-P
2008-03-11 02:11 < Werdna> :-P
2008-03-11 02:11 < Werdna> let's see... I was 14.
2008-03-11 02:11 < Werdna> good god.
2008-03-11 02:11 < bishzilla> wow
2008-03-11 02:11 * Hildanknight waves to Werdna
2008-03-11 02:11 * Hildanknight waves to bishzilla
2008-03-11 02:11 < bishzilla> you were 14 at the time of the French Revolution?
2008-03-11 02:12 * Hildanknight waves to ggreer
2008-03-11 02:12 < bishzilla> hi Hildanknight
2008-03-11 02:12 < Hildanknight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations#Can_an_article_be_on_PR_and_GAN_simultaneously.3F
2008-03-11 02:12 < Werdna> bishzilla: uhuh.
2008-03-11 02:12 < bishzilla> ah, I remember dear m. Robespierre...
2008-03-11 02:13 * bishzilla is lost in reverie
2008-03-11 02:24 < Casull> Aww, it's so cute to see little kids being interested in Wikipedia
2008-03-11 02:24 < Casull> I almost feel bad for telling them that they can't have a full-blown Wikipedia page due to notability
2008-03-11 02:37 < Mark_Ryan> wikipedia-l is a pretty dead mailing list. would anyone agree with me?
2008-03-11 02:44 < Hildanknight> Is canvassing for comments on peer reviews allowed?
2008-03-11 02:45 < Mark_Ryan> define 'allowed'?
2008-03-11 02:46 < Hildanknight> Is there any policy against it, or does the community strongly disapprove of it? If not, I guess it's allowed.
2008-03-11 02:48 < Mark_Ryan> isn't peer review getting someone to comment critically on your article?
2008-03-11 02:48 < Mark_Ryan> if so, how can it be a bad thing to get as many people to help as possible?
2008-03-11 02:49 < Mark_Ryan> that's like 'canvassing' for people to clear administrative backlogs. lol
2008-03-11 02:49 < Hildanknight> Makes sense.
2008-03-11 02:50 < Hildanknight> Mark_Ryan, Werdna, bishzilla and others: You are invited to give your feedback at this peer review - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Homerun_(film)/archive1
2008-03-11 03:17 < ChemicalBit> hello!
2008-03-11 03:17 * Werdna runs
2008-03-11 03:19 * brown_cat snuggles Werd
2008-03-11 03:19 * brown_cat snuggles Werdna
2008-03-11 03:21 < bumm13> hiya AdamBishop
2008-03-11 03:21 < AdamBishop> hey
2008-03-11 03:22 < ChemicalBit> hello! Silly :-) question. An administrator can save a page with a link in it which is in the local antispam balcklist?
2008-03-11 03:22 < ChemicalBit> (that is: aministrators are exempted from local antispam blacklist?)
2008-03-11 03:22 < pengo> ChemicalBit: no.,
2008-03-11 03:22 < pengo> ChemicalBit: it's annoying for admins too
2008-03-11 03:23 < ChemicalBit> pengo: an admin on it.wikipedia.org complain :-) that a regexp that he has put in local antispam blacklist
2008-03-11 03:24 < ChemicalBit> doesn't works. He wrote the "spam" link, but he can get it
2008-03-11 03:24 < pengo> silly admin
2008-03-11 03:24 < ChemicalBit> He tried unlogged, and he (correctly) was not able to
2008-03-11 03:24 < pengo> i dunno what the rules are around it
2008-03-11 03:26 < ChemicalBit> I shuld search for the spamlist etension documentation (as usual, we lack at italian project :-( )
2008-03-11 03:27 < pengo> yeah. everything is english. pretty handy for us native speakers.
2008-03-11 03:32 * ChemicalBit is away
2008-03-11 03:33 * ChemicalByte is superior
2008-03-11 03:34 < Werdna> oooh
2008-03-11 03:34 < Werdna> clever.
2008-03-11 03:41 < nadis> hi, anybody likes to talk to me ?
2008-03-11 03:41 < bumm13> hi nadis
2008-03-11 03:41 < nadis> i'm eager to practice my english through the IRC
2008-03-11 03:41 < nadis> hi, bumm13
2008-03-11 03:41 < bumm13> what country are you from?
2008-03-11 03:41 < nadis> where are you from?
2008-03-11 03:42 < Rinn> Oh, don't tell me that. I'll start speaking in random dialects and purposely trying to confuse you.
2008-03-11 03:42 * bumm13 is from the United States
2008-03-11 03:42 < bumm13> northwest U.S., specifically
2008-03-11 03:43 < E_Wing> nadis: How about you?
2008-03-11 03:49 < nadis> am i off line ?
2008-03-11 03:49 < nadis> i can't see any words jumping
2008-03-11 03:49 < Werdna> yes, you are offline.
2008-03-11 03:49 < Werdna> come back later.
2008-03-11 03:50 < nadis> well, i hear you
2008-03-11 03:50 < nadis> hello, Werdna
2008-03-11 03:50 < Werdna> well I don't hear you
2008-03-11 03:50 < Werdna> you're offline.
2008-03-11 03:51 < nadis> come on, guy...
2008-03-11 03:51 < E_Wing> Nah
2008-03-11 03:51 < E_Wing> Here either
2008-03-11 04:16 < E_Wing> Does anyone speak/understand tagalog/filipino here?
2008-03-11 04:18 < AdamBishop> someone did yesterday.
2008-03-11 04:18 < AdamBishop> Not that that helps you today.
2008-03-11 04:18 < Mike_H> I know how to say things like
2008-03-11 04:18 < Mike_H> mabuhay
2008-03-11 04:18 < Mike_H> kumusta ka
2008-03-11 04:18 < Mike_H> and bakla
2008-03-11 04:18 < Mike_H> that's about it
2008-03-11 04:19 < Mike_H> AdamBishop: Those mean "welcome," "how are you," and "gay"
2008-03-11 04:19 < Mike_H> the three phrases I need to know in any language, really
2008-03-11 04:19 < E_Wing> Ahahahaha
2008-03-11 04:23 < AdamBishop> I can say hello in Arabic! That's all I've got.
2008-03-11 04:24 < Lady_Aleena> Hello all...I need a proof reader. I am in the process of writing an article, and I am not really sure about all of my grammar. I haven't added headings to it yet, so it is one big gray and blue blur. I hope that I can get someone interested in giving it a semi-quick look see.
2008-03-11 04:25 < Mike_H> How much am I gonna get paid?
2008-03-11 04:25 < E_Wing> Mike_H: Although keep an eye out if someone said to you "putang-ina mo"
2008-03-11 04:25 * bumm13 NP: Van Halen - Intruder + (Oh) Pretty Woman (1981)
2008-03-11 04:25 * AdamBishop hides
2008-03-11 04:25 * Mike_H NP: James Taylor and J.D. Souther - Her Town Too (1981)
2008-03-11 04:25 < E_Wing> or "gago ka"
2008-03-11 04:25 < bumm13> interesting, is that a duet?
2008-03-11 04:26 < Mike_H> It is
2008-03-11 04:26 < bumm13> :)
2008-03-11 04:26 < E_Wing> Sorry for those phrases though
2008-03-11 04:26 < E_Wing> ;-)
2008-03-11 04:26 < Mike_H> it's a mix, though
2008-03-11 04:26 < Mike_H> because there are also solo parts
2008-03-11 04:26 < Mike_H> solely from James Taylor
2008-03-11 04:26 * bumm13 just finished pouring a 2-liter bottle of Coca-Cola down the drain
2008-03-11 04:26 < Lady_Aleena> Here is the link if anyone is willing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lady_Aleena/Television/Crossovers#Article_draft
2008-03-11 04:26 < bumm13> I see
2008-03-11 04:27 < Mike_H> A collaboration with James Taylor called "Her Town Too" from Taylor's Dad Loves His Work album reached number 11 on the Billboard Pop Singles chart.
2008-03-11 04:27 < Mike_H> Dad Loves His Work is singer-songwriter James Taylor's eleventh album. Released in 1981, it is best remembered for the duet with J. D. Souther "Her Town Too"
2008-03-11 04:27 < bumm13> (it was old)
2008-03-11 04:30 < Mike_H> bumm13: Her Town Too was a song chronicling the breakup of his marriage.
2008-03-11 04:30 < Mike_H> he and Carly Simon separated in 1981 and divorced in 1983.
2008-03-11 04:31 < Lady_Aleena> That rough draft I think needs work...I just don't know how to keep altering a few key words.
2008-03-11 04:33 < bumm13> ah ok
2008-03-11 04:33 < Lady_Aleena> bumm13: Who was that to?
2008-03-11 04:33 < bumm13> sounds like Taylor and Simon had issues dating back to at least 1972 ;p
2008-03-11 04:40 < Lady_Aleena> I am trying to write an article from scratch for the first time in a long time, and this time I am *gasp* using references. :)
2008-03-11 04:41 < E_Wing> Lady_Aleena: Good luck on that
2008-03-11 04:42 < E_Wing> I'm still currently a noob from translating paragraphs from tagalog to english
2008-03-11 04:42 < E_Wing> And its my first time to translate a whole article
2008-03-11 04:42 < Lady_Aleena> Right now I need a proof reader...someone to give it a look to tell me if my grammar is good.
2008-03-11 04:43 < Lady_Aleena> My brain is frying.
2008-03-11 04:45 < pengo> E_Wing: i translated something to tagalog once
2008-03-11 04:49 * cat bursts into flames
2008-03-11 04:53 < pengo> that happens
2008-03-11 04:53 < pengo> when you try to be dead and alive simultaneously
2008-03-11 04:53 < E_Wing> pengo: What article?
2008-03-11 04:53 < pengo> E_Wing: well it was more a diagram than an article
2008-03-11 04:54 < E_Wing> Ah I see
2008-03-11 04:54 < pengo> E_Wing: the one at the top of [[Species]]
2008-03-11 04:54 < pengo> and the translation was provided for me
2008-03-11 04:54 * cat eyes
2008-03-11 04:54 * cat eyes pengo
2008-03-11 04:54 < pengo> cats eyes
2008-03-11 04:54 * cat scares pengo >:D
2008-03-11 04:54 < pengo> dead cats do scare me
2008-03-11 04:55 < E_Wing> Do you mean the picture at the top of the article?
2008-03-11 04:55 < E_Wing> Speaking of dead cats
2008-03-11 04:55 < cat> O_o
2008-03-11 04:55 < pengo> E_Wing: yes
2008-03-11 04:56 < E_Wing> There's one that was over run by a passing vehicle at a main road near here
2008-03-11 04:56 < cat> O_o
2008-03-11 04:56 < cat> O_o
2008-03-11 04:56 < cat> O_o
2008-03-11 04:56 < E_Wing> And that was about last weekend
2008-03-11 04:56 < E_Wing> A while ago, I glanced over at its remains
2008-03-11 04:57 < mavhc> a saw a dead animal that was quite large today by the side of the road, badger perhaps, although the colour was wrong
2008-03-11 04:57 < E_Wing> Just skin and dust now
2008-03-11 04:57 < pengo> E_Wing: e.g http://tl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapi?uselang=en
2008-03-11 04:57 < mavhc> the first person in the car to shout "dead" wins a point
2008-03-11 04:58 < E_Wing> Also, a pet cat of mine got run over by a passing vehicle on a street in the front of this house
2008-03-11 04:58 < pengo> lovely e_wing
2008-03-11 04:58 * cat thinks E_Wing makes cats want to commit suicide
2008-03-11 04:59 < E_Wing> And that's the cat who like to sleep at my bed beside me whole night
2008-03-11 04:59 < E_Wing> pengo: So thats the original
2008-03-11 04:59 < E_Wing> hmm
2008-03-11 04:59 < pengo> E_Wing: no that's the tagalog one i made
2008-03-11 05:00 < E_Wing> Ah sorry
2008-03-11 05:00 < pengo> i made the original too
2008-03-11 05:00 < pengo> i dunno why people can't edit svg themselves
2008-03-11 05:01 < E_Wing> And to top it off, they say that cat is a good luck charm since it got 3 colors on its body
2008-03-11 05:02 < E_Wing> And she died coincidently with my sister's birtday
2008-03-11 05:02 < Mike_H> bumm13: are you there?
2008-03-11 05:03 < pengo> so it was a girl cat?
2008-03-11 05:03 < bumm13> yup
2008-03-11 05:03 < Mike_H> bumm13: I found a rare Love American Style opening on YouTube
2008-03-11 05:03 < E_Wing> yup
2008-03-11 05:03 < Mike_H> with music from The Cowsills
2008-03-11 05:03 < Mike_H> and actual firework explosions.
2008-03-11 05:04 < Mike_H> bumm13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Wzs74B0I8
2008-03-11 05:10 < Mike_H> bumm13: !!!
2008-03-11 05:10 < Mike_H> I was talking to you!
2008-03-11 05:11 * Lady_Aleena sits over in a corner where everyone else who is ignored goes.
2008-03-11 05:12 < zocky> zomg, cher had terrible hair in live aid
2008-03-11 05:12 < zocky> she looked like the guy from journey
2008-03-11 05:12 < Lady_Aleena> Its her hair.
2008-03-11 05:13 < Lady_Aleena> Well, I think that I will leave. I thought that I might at least get on volunteer for proofreading but I guess not.
2008-03-11 05:13 < Lady_Aleena> s/on/one
2008-03-11 05:16 < bumm13> heh, The Cowsills
2008-03-11 05:16 * bumm13 looks
2008-03-11 05:19 < bumm13> nice shot of younger Regis Philbin
2008-03-11 05:19 < Mike_H> and Lesley Ann Warren!
2008-03-11 05:19 < bumm13> :)
2008-03-11 05:20 < Mike_H> bumm13: at first I didn't think Lesley Ann Warren was that old
2008-03-11 05:20 < Mike_H> but she is
2008-03-11 05:20 < Mike_H> she was born in 1946
2008-03-11 05:20 < Mike_H> last time I saw her was when she played Will's father's mistress
2008-03-11 05:20 < Mike_H> on Will and Grace
2008-03-11 05:21 < Lycurgus> does anybody know of a good essay on the word "drama" in the Dr. Phil or Jerry sense?
2008-03-11 05:21 < Mike_H> Lycurgus: I could link you to five minute Minisodes of Ricki Lake shows
2008-03-11 05:21 < Mike_H> but that's about it
2008-03-11 05:24 < Mike_H> bumm13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgA6YHloU98
2008-03-11 05:26 < bumm13> what the hell is up with those parents' outfits? :X
2008-03-11 05:26 < Mike_H> yeah, I don't know
2008-03-11 05:27 < bumm13> Samuel has long hair *and* a mullet :p
2008-03-11 05:27 < cat> O_o
2008-03-11 05:27 < cat> OH NOES
2008-03-11 05:27 * cat screams
2008-03-11 05:27 < Mike_H> bumm13: to be fair
2008-03-11 05:27 < Mike_H> it was 1993
2008-03-11 05:29 < bumm13> far from excusable :)
2008-03-11 05:29 < bumm13> er
2008-03-11 05:29 < bumm13> :P
2008-03-11 05:29 < E_Wing> Does anyone here a spanish native?
2008-03-11 05:30 < E_Wing> particularly a native of Madrid?
2008-03-11 05:44 < Mike_H> bumm13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdAEDYgDc60
2008-03-11 05:44 < Mike_H> I miss this show
2008-03-11 05:44 < Lycurgus> yeah that's the kind of drama I meant but looking for a thoughtful analysis of what "drama-free" means
2008-03-11 05:44 < NotACow> dream-free
2008-03-11 05:44 < Lycurgus> is that an equation or your state of sleeplessness
2008-03-11 05:45 < Lycurgus> ?
2008-03-11 05:45 < Lycurgus> <- born and raised in Chicago, BTW.
2008-03-11 05:48 < bumm13> I never watched it
2008-03-11 05:49 < Mike_H> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0N-TQBIp2I
2008-03-11 05:50 < Lycurgus> here's a guy who knows: what does "drama-free" mean?
2008-03-11 05:51 < wahrheit> I don't think there's an equation
2008-03-11 05:51 < wahrheit> Maybe a scale.
2008-03-11 05:51 < wahrheit> Sleeplessness can probably be scaled just l ike kthe pain scale.
2008-03-11 05:51 < E_Wing> Uh huh
2008-03-11 05:52 < Psychonaut> I just got an e-mail from MyWikiBiz asking if I have a problem with them using my name in their press release.
2008-03-11 05:52 < E_Wing> I just found a small kitten hiding behind my mom's air compressor
2008-03-11 05:52 < Aqwis2> what did you answer? :p
2008-03-11 05:52 < Psychonaut> I told them I'd rather not have my name mentioned in connection with their service.
2008-03-11 05:53 < Psychonaut> Strictly speaking, though, they didn't ask for permission, so they might end up naming me anyway.
2008-03-11 05:53 < Lycurgus> if I did the essay, the central thesis would be that it refers to harmonious personal and social relations but that those who use it are generally ignorant of the implications thereof
2008-03-11 05:54 < Lycurgus> your name Psychonaut or your RL name?
2008-03-11 05:54 < NotACow> Psychonaut: you can probably sue them if they do
2008-03-11 05:54 < Psychonaut> Lycurgus: Both.
2008-03-11 05:54 < NotACow> your real name, at least
2008-03-11 05:55 < NotACow> he needs your permission to use your real name in connection with a commercial venture
2008-03-11 05:55 < Psychonaut> NotACow: I doubt it. They're not using my name in a way which makes it seem as though I'm endorsing their service.
2008-03-11 05:55 < NotACow> E_Wing: your mother stores kittens behind the air compressor?
2008-03-11 05:56 < E_Wing> Erm, nope
2008-03-11 05:56 < E_Wing> Looks like that kitten is a stray one
2008-03-11 05:56 < NotACow> reminds me
2008-03-11 05:56 < NotACow> i need to drain the air compressor
2008-03-11 05:56 < E_Wing> Although its color is similar with the female cat that we have now.
2008-03-11 05:57 < NotACow> i hope there are no kittens in it
2008-03-11 05:57 < E_Wing> NotACow: ahahaha
2008-03-11 05:58 < Lycurgus> does the wp text about the Romani state that they are from India and that the word "gypsy" is a corruption of "egyptian"?
2008-03-11 05:58 < Lycurgus> wonder what "ziguener" is a corruption of?
2008-03-11 05:59 < Messedrocker> zimbabwean?
2008-03-11 05:59 < Sir48> Ziquener: The Roman people
2008-03-11 06:00 < hippietrail> is there a template which basically does nothing with its contents?
2008-03-11 06:00 < Lycurgus> an pretty sure it's "Zigeuner" but if any krauts are about they can correct
2008-03-11 06:01 < Sir48> Lycurgus: You are not familiar with the Roman People?
2008-03-11 06:02 < Sir48> Romani people in English
2008-03-11 06:02 < Lycurgus> I seriously doubt 'Zigeuner' has anything etymolygically to do with "Rom".
2008-03-11 06:02 < christel> .21
2008-03-11 06:02 < christel> er
2008-03-11 06:02 < Sir48> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
2008-03-11 06:02 < Sir48> Gypsies
2008-03-11 06:03 < bumm13> that's the perjorative term, yes
2008-03-11 06:03 < NotACow> buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp!
2008-03-11 06:06 < hippietrail> the words gypsy, zigeuner, tsigane, zingano, cigano, gitano etc are all related to words for egypt
2008-03-11 06:06 < Sir48> Lycurgus: Zigeuner is the German word
2008-03-11 06:06 < Sir48> for Romani people
2008-03-11 06:06 < Lycurgus> and although memory fails me at the moment, I'm pretty sure I've done a Spaniard, whether or not from Madrid, I can't say.
2008-03-11 06:07 < Lycurgus> ah, thanks hippietrail
2008-03-11 06:07 < hippietrail> finnish seems to be one of the few languages that has another origin for their term for "gypsy": mustalainen means "black person"
2008-03-11 06:09 < Lycurgus> well it's practically an indo-european outlier
2008-03-11 06:09 < hippietrail> the albanian, arabic and greek terms seem to come from elsewhere though
2008-03-11 06:10 < hippietrail> chinese, japanese, korean, vietnamese, turkish, russian, hungarian, all use terms related to english "gypsy"
2008-03-11 06:15 < E_Wing> Is there such word as "hypocriticism"?
2008-03-11 06:17 < pengo> maybe hypercriticism
2008-03-11 06:18 < NotACow> moo!
2008-03-11 06:18 < NotACow> wikipedians are hypocritical of their leaders
2008-03-11 06:18 < NotACow> :)
2008-03-11 06:18 < pengo> i'm not
2008-03-11 06:18 < NotASpy> we don't have leaders, we have idols.
2008-03-11 06:18 < pengo> i assert we have no leaders
2008-03-11 06:18 < Lycurgus> did you mean hyper?
2008-03-11 06:19 < NotACow> pengo: you have leaders, you just refuse to admit it
2008-03-11 06:19 < NotASpy> I'm not all that hypocritical. I've not wined and dined at a massively expensive restaurant and charged it to a cash strapped charity for quite some time now...
2008-03-11 06:19 < pengo> E_Wing: hypocritical is a word
2008-03-11 06:20 < pengo> i'm not sure hypocriticism is
2008-03-11 06:20 < Lycurgus> yes with both a literal and idiomatic meaning
2008-03-11 06:20 < Lycurgus> kelly would have meant it literally if not a typo