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2008-03-10 17:44 < LordPants> ok
2008-03-10 17:44 < LordPants> thanks
2008-03-10 17:50 < Ceiling_Cat> so it looks like this summer I'm going to be interning with [[Thomas Sterling (computing)]]
2008-03-10 17:50 < Ceiling_Cat> reworking my master's thesis benchmark into ParalleX
2008-03-10 17:52 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-10 17:54 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: You're getting paid twice for the same work?
2008-03-10 17:54 < Ceiling_Cat> quanticle - no, I'll be getting paid for fleshing it out further
2008-03-10 17:54 < Ceiling_Cat> right now, I'm summarizing the last year of work I did
2008-03-10 17:54 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Ah. Still, good to hear.
2008-03-10 17:54 < Ceiling_Cat> I've been hitting up inkscape hard
2008-03-10 17:55 < Ceiling_Cat> doing some pretty massive diagrams
2008-03-10 17:55 < Ceiling_Cat> in fact!
2008-03-10 17:55 * Ceiling_Cat adds it to the web
2008-03-10 17:58 < NotACow> mooop
2008-03-10 17:59 < quanticle> mrooooowwwwwp
2008-03-10 17:59 < NotACow> qwap qwap
2008-03-10 17:59 < quanticle> baaaap baaaap
2008-03-10 18:02 < privatemusings> g'day folks....
2008-03-10 18:03 * Mike_H pets privatemusings
2008-03-10 18:03 < privatemusings> g'day mike!
2008-03-10 18:03 < Mike_H> hi!
2008-03-10 18:03 < privatemusings> how's sunny florida?
2008-03-10 18:04 < Mike_H> sunny :)
2008-03-10 18:04 < privatemusings> it's 27 degrees, hot sun, and warm sea down here...
2008-03-10 18:04 < privatemusings> jsut got back from a morning swim......
2008-03-10 18:04 < privatemusings> hooray!
2008-03-10 18:04 * NotACow steals 7 of privatemusings' degrees
2008-03-10 18:04 < Ceiling_Cat> lulz!
2008-03-10 18:04 < Ceiling_Cat> "Silly rabbit - kicks are for ribs!"
2008-03-10 18:04 < privatemusings> how cold is it in notacow country?
2008-03-10 18:04 * privatemusings wishes to gloat...or goat... or something.....
2008-03-10 18:05 < NotACow> privatemusings: 34.5 degrees.
2008-03-10 18:05 < NotACow> privatemusings: and those are those smaller old-style ones
2008-03-10 18:05 < privatemusings> i'm thinking you're using some obscure outdated scale, right?
2008-03-10 18:05 < Messedrocker> i got brawl!
2008-03-10 18:05 < Messedrocker> "NotACow Country"
2008-03-10 18:05 < Messedrocker> i like that
2008-03-10 18:06 < privatemusings> there's a small part of notacow country called notacow county too.....
2008-03-10 18:06 < privatemusings> NotACow County.
2008-03-10 18:06 < privatemusings> someone should make a sign!
2008-03-10 18:06 < privatemusings> (i like it too!)
2008-03-10 18:06 < Messedrocker> i bet Cow County would feel rivaled
2008-03-10 18:06 < Ceiling_Cat> http://udel.edu/~markpell/mstack/
2008-03-10 18:07 < Ceiling_Cat> That's the diagram I was talking about
2008-03-10 18:07 < Ceiling_Cat> (top right)
2008-03-10 18:07 < privatemusings> not sure what you were saying before - but that diagram has me suitably befuddled......
2008-03-10 18:08 < Ceiling_Cat> it is a data-dependence graph
2008-03-10 18:08 < privatemusings> isn't KLM a dutch airline?
2008-03-10 18:08 < effeietsanders> yes
2008-03-10 18:08 < privatemusings> and I'm not sure what 'bubblesort' means....
2008-03-10 18:08 < effeietsanders> Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij
2008-03-10 18:08 < privatemusings> (probably showing my boundless ignorance.....)
2008-03-10 18:08 < effeietsanders> but merged with Air France nowadays
2008-03-10 18:09 < effeietsanders> Air France-KLM
2008-03-10 18:09 < privatemusings> http://udel.edu/~markpell/mstack_data_diagram.png
2008-03-10 18:09 < quanticle> privatemusings: [[bubble sort]]
2008-03-10 18:10 < quanticle> effeietsanders: Really? When did KLM merge with Air France?
2008-03-10 18:10 < effeietsanders> quite a while ago
2008-03-10 18:10 < effeietsanders> a year or so
2008-03-10 18:10 < effeietsanders> still operating as two airlines
2008-03-10 18:11 < effeietsanders> but one company I think
2008-03-10 18:11 < effeietsanders> and merging more and more together
2008-03-10 18:12 * Warpath facehuggles Ceiling_Cat :DDD
2008-03-10 18:15 * privatemusings bublesorts ceiling cat
2008-03-10 18:15 < NotACow> hehe
2008-03-10 18:15 < NotACow> i cut a stick
2008-03-10 18:15 < NotACow> so my son grabbed it and starting swining
2008-03-10 18:15 < NotACow> swinging
2008-03-10 18:17 * privatemusings is on tenterhooks.....
2008-03-10 18:17 < privatemusings> what happened?
2008-03-10 18:17 < NotACow> we took it away before he hit anything
2008-03-10 18:18 < Messedrocker> walking corpse syndrome!
2008-03-10 18:18 < NotACow> it's an ash stick
2008-03-10 18:18 < NotACow> about 4 feet long
2008-03-10 18:18 < Messedrocker> i was wondering what the name of that condition was for a long time!
2008-03-10 18:18 < NotACow> so we don't need him hitting things with it
2008-03-10 18:18 < privatemusings> indeed not!
2008-03-10 18:18 < The359> how else will he learn?
2008-03-10 18:18 < NotACow> it's amazing how much better a fresh sawblade cuts
2008-03-10 18:19 < NotACow> i managed to whizz through four feet of ash without any significant scorching
2008-03-10 18:19 * privatemusings tries to think of a more pithy punchline to that anecdote....
2008-03-10 18:19 * privatemusings doesn't know how hard ash is
2008-03-10 18:19 < Demi> boys, at least, are hardwired for sword-fighting, i swear
2008-03-10 18:19 < NotACow> the old blade i had on there would have scorched smething fierce
2008-03-10 18:19 < NotACow> Demi: this one grunts a lot
2008-03-10 18:19 < NotACow> it's funny
2008-03-10 18:19 < NotACow> he will just start grunting for no particular reaosn
2008-03-10 18:20 < NotACow> and it's not like he's trying to poo
2008-03-10 18:20 < quanticle> NotACow: Your blade grunts?
2008-03-10 18:20 < NotACow> quanticle: no, my son :)
2008-03-10 18:20 < quanticle> Ah. I was gonna say...
2008-03-10 18:20 < NotACow> i have one sawblade that can't be used
2008-03-10 18:20 < quanticle> Too dull?
2008-03-10 18:20 < privatemusings> how many different woods sink, notacow?
2008-03-10 18:21 < NotACow> it had an unfortunate incident with a sheet of plywood that left it with six or seven teeth deflected to one side about an eighth of an inch
2008-03-10 18:21 < quanticle> Yeouch.
2008-03-10 18:21 < NotACow> privatemusings: lignum vitae does; i'm not sure how many others meet that criterion.
2008-03-10 18:21 < NotACow> quanticle: well, i ended up with a nice dime-sized scar on my belly.
2008-03-10 18:22 < NotACow> quanticle: it's fading slowly
2008-03-10 18:22 < privatemusings> is mebow a wood?
2008-03-10 18:22 < privatemusings> sorry - merbow
2008-03-10 18:22 < quanticle> Well, if it is a wood, Wikipedia doesn't know about it.
2008-03-10 18:23 < NotACow> privatemusings: not that i'm aware of
2008-03-10 18:23 < privatemusings> ah - merbau
2008-03-10 18:23 < NotACow> quanticle: wikipedia's articles on wood suck ass.
2008-03-10 18:23 < privatemusings> I think it's a sinking hardwood... but not sure....
2008-03-10 18:23 < quanticle> Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about wood to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the topic.
2008-03-10 18:24 < quanticle> Ok. I really have to go do homework now.
2008-03-10 18:24 < NotACow> quanticle: i was going to do that, but people pissed me off enough that i didn't bother.
2008-03-10 18:24 < privatemusings> "Both licensed and unlicensed mills harvest the wood."
2008-03-10 18:24 < privatemusings> that's a gem.....
2008-03-10 18:25 < NotACow> privatemusings: wikipedia excels at making meaningless statements
2008-03-10 18:25 < privatemusings> it really does....
2008-03-10 18:25 < NotACow> privatemusings: i remember rewriting the lead to [[Anime]] because it had a sentence that had so many qualifiers in it that it basically came out to saying "Anime exists."
2008-03-10 18:26 < privatemusings> i'm pretty sure that this is a systemic weakness of the wiki process....
2008-03-10 18:26 < privatemusings> but it's hard to figure out how best to solve that problem....
2008-03-10 18:27 < NotACow> privatemusings: you can't, not wthout getting rd of all the idiot editors.
2008-03-10 18:28 < privatemusings> sure you can.... maybe....
2008-03-10 18:29 < Aqwis> what do you prefer, NotACow, short but good articles or long but less good articles?
2008-03-10 18:29 < NotACow> privatemusings: actually, a system where every edit had to be reviewed byy at least one other editor before going live would help
2008-03-10 18:29 < privatemusings> it's hard to show that this is a function of the process over and above the idiocy of the editor though.....
2008-03-10 18:29 < NotACow> Aqwis: short but good
2008-03-10 18:29 < NotACow> Aqwis: long trashheaps are useless.
2008-03-10 18:29 < Aqwis> i'm tempted to almost stubify several articles
2008-03-10 18:29 < Aqwis> they are really crap currently
2008-03-10 18:30 < NotACow> Aqwis: "pauca sed matura"
2008-03-10 18:30 < Aqwis> i can see it getting reverted pretty quickly, though
2008-03-10 18:30 < Aqwis> sorry, i don't know latin
2008-03-10 18:30 < Aqwis> ah
2008-03-10 18:30 < Aqwis> few, but ripe
2008-03-10 18:30 < NotACow> Aqwis: gauss' personal motto
2008-03-10 18:30 < Aqwis> hm
2008-03-10 18:32 < NotACow> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anime&diff=42765617&oldid=42765131
2008-03-10 18:32 < NotACow> '''Anime''' (アニメ) is a style of [[animated cartoon|cartoon animation]] originating in [[Japan]]. Anime may or may not exist. Storylines may but are not required to anser questions such as who?, what?, when?, why?, and how?. Anime is aimed at a broad range of audiences just because. Anime may be broadcast on [[television]], distributed on media, such as [[DVD]]s, or published as [[console]], or [[computer]] [[games]],
2008-03-10 18:32 < Aqwis> "anime may or may not exist"
2008-03-10 18:32 < Aqwis> haha
2008-03-10 18:34 < NotACow> yeah, that was classic.
2008-03-10 18:35 * privatemusings may or may not exist.
2008-03-10 18:38 < NotACow> wikipedia may or may not exist.
2008-03-10 18:45 < Apple> what would be somethign simple to add to a java applet to make it rather evil
2008-03-10 18:46 < Messedrocker> a go-to statement
2008-03-10 19:14 < NotACow> yeep!
2008-03-10 19:29 < Messedrocker> heh
2008-03-10 19:29 < Messedrocker> metal fox used his final smash
2008-03-10 19:29 < Messedrocker> and he ended up killing himself
2008-03-10 19:31 < NotACow> I AM NOT YOUR DONKEY
2008-03-10 19:33 < Lubaf> Chosen to judge a wet T-shirt contest: Fist pound.
2008-03-10 19:33 < Lubaf> Trevor got a new beer bong: Fist pound.
2008-03-10 19:34 * Ceiling_Cat returns
2008-03-10 19:34 < Lubaf> Murdered hundreds and hundreds of people: DO NOT FIST POUND.
2008-03-10 19:34 < Ceiling_Cat> Lubaf - http://static.pyzam.com/img/funnypics/animals/watchingme.jpg
2008-03-10 19:36 < smallfoot-> hmm there is a portal who tries to show "Selected article/5" instead of "Selected article/1", why?
2008-03-10 19:36 * TheWeasel yawns
2008-03-10 19:36 < smallfoot-> but i dont know
2008-03-10 19:37 < Devourer> This channel scares me.
2008-03-10 19:40 < TheWeasel> "Now when the boy went down to wash his feet in the river, a large fish suddenly leaped out of the water and tried to swallow his foot. He shouted in alarm."
2008-03-10 19:40 < TheWeasel> Meh, quote isnt pertinent in English
2008-03-10 19:42 < TheWeasel> In German it's "...shouted 'Oh lord, it wants to eat me.'"
2008-03-10 19:43 < TheWeasel> (Tobit 6:3, apocryphal)
2008-03-10 19:45 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-10 19:45 < Ceiling_Cat> Fewer WEASELS!
2008-03-10 19:45 * Ceiling_Cat glues whiskers on TheWeasel
2008-03-10 19:46 < Ceiling_Cat> =^o.o^=
2008-03-10 19:46 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.sundancenbare.com/Pictures/indexPicts/xanadu.jpg
2008-03-10 19:47 < Ceiling_Cat> awwwww :)
2008-03-10 19:47 < Ceiling_Cat> (Sooooo cute)
2008-03-10 19:47 < NotACow> I CAN HAS CATBURGER?
2008-03-10 19:47 < Cyrius> creepy hairless cat!
2008-03-10 19:48 < Ceiling_Cat> every time you masturbate, god de-furs a cat
2008-03-10 19:48 < Messedrocker> 47 HP away :(
2008-03-10 19:49 < Cyrius> and weasels have whiskers!
2008-03-10 19:49 < Autocracy> statistics page says: Users have made 207,531,355 edits,
2008-03-10 19:49 < Ceiling_Cat> How many cats have those users made?
2008-03-10 19:49 < Autocracy> Query select format(max(rev_id),0) from revision says: 197,364,185
2008-03-10 19:49 < Autocracy> odd discrepency
2008-03-10 19:50 < Autocracy> Ceiling_Cat: creepy cat you've linked
2008-03-10 19:50 < NotACow> Autocracy: i'm guessing deleted edits.
2008-03-10 19:50 < Ceiling_Cat> it's an odd-eyed spyhnx cat
2008-03-10 19:50 < Ceiling_Cat> see [[Odd-eyed cat]]
2008-03-10 19:51 < NotACow> Autocracy: iirc, deleting edits doesn't decrement the stats, but if the edit you delete is the most recent edit, mysql will reuse the index.
2008-03-10 19:51 < IceKarma> Ceiling_Cat, http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/10/funny-pictures-preparing-to-hibernate/
2008-03-10 19:53 < ST47> This betacommand thing is taking up all of RFAr and still noone's voted to accept
2008-03-10 19:53 < quanticle|away> IceKarma: I like this one too: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/10/07/door-cat-subbing-for-ceiling-cat/
2008-03-10 19:54 < Autocracy> NotACow: maybe if the wiki reuses the info somehow, but mysql never frees an autoincrement
2008-03-10 19:57 < Ceiling_Cat> IceKarma - seen it
2008-03-10 19:57 < Ceiling_Cat> not bad
2008-03-10 19:58 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikcv9wQKeBs
2008-03-10 19:58 * Ceiling_Cat lulz
2008-03-10 20:01 < quanticle|away> Amen
2008-03-10 20:01 < quanticle|away> Ceiling_Cat pwns the ceiling and the floors and the walls too. Forever and ever...
2008-03-10 20:03 < quanticle> Anyway. Back to homework
2008-03-10 20:04 < smallfoot-> my cat is fun, i tried gave her banana, but she dont like, so she run away and hide behind the door, she didnt think i would find her, but i did, and then she was trapped lol
2008-03-10 20:04 < quanticle> Probably wasn't very fun for her.
2008-03-10 20:04 < smallfoot-> lol
2008-03-10 20:04 < smallfoot-> yeah, i guess not, but i found it hilarious lol
2008-03-10 20:04 < quanticle> Imagine a stranger offering you something, you refuse, and then the stranger proceeds to follow you and corner you...
2008-03-10 20:04 < smallfoot-> she run away from the banana and think she can outsmart me by hiding (often she does outsmart me though)
2008-03-10 20:04 < smallfoot-> well im no stranger
2008-03-10 20:05 < quanticle> I guess so. But even still, it'd be mildly annoying, "No! I
2008-03-10 20:05 < quanticle> ve told you already
2008-03-10 20:05 < quanticle> I don't want the banana!"
2008-03-10 20:05 < smallfoot-> haha, yah
2008-03-10 20:09 < smallfoot-> but she dislikes oranges even worse
2008-03-10 20:09 < quanticle> Well, yeah. Cat's aren't typically vegetarian.
2008-03-10 20:10 < quanticle> *Cats
2008-03-10 20:11 < smallfoot-> but worst of all she hates the toothbrush
2008-03-10 20:11 < smallfoot-> because once my mom brushed her teeth with toothbrush and toothpaste
2008-03-10 20:12 < smallfoot-> and ever since then, she really hate toothbrush
2008-03-10 20:12 * Ceiling_Cat shines a spotlight on Gracenotes
2008-03-10 20:12 < smallfoot-> when you point one at her, she backs away, and does grimaces ad mean faces
2008-03-10 20:12 * Gracenotes runs away, mortified
2008-03-10 20:13 < Gracenotes> so, I never knew that our governor lieked prostitute rings.
2008-03-10 20:14 < privatemusings> oh he leiked them very much, so it seems....
2008-03-10 20:17 * Gracenotes read Ceiling_Cat's /. comment... would have modded it +1, had not he had a nepotism-flavored pang in the conscience
2008-03-10 20:20 < Ceiling_Cat> cronyism, not nepotism
2008-03-10 20:20 < Ceiling_Cat> :P
2008-03-10 20:20 < Ceiling_Cat> (nepotism -> members of one's family)
2008-03-10 20:21 * Gracenotes huggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-03-10 20:21 < Gracenotes> I've been looking for that word for some time
2008-03-10 20:21 < NotACow> meh
2008-03-10 20:21 < Gracenotes> NotACow: yes, we know, Slashdot suxx0rs, blogging roxx0rs, &c
2008-03-10 20:23 < Ceiling_Cat> Gracenotes - http://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=41393&cid=4409691
2008-03-10 20:23 < Ceiling_Cat> "
2008-03-10 20:23 < Ceiling_Cat> Did you know Hitler used to Blog? Yep. It's called Mein Kampf. Scary stuff folks.
2008-03-10 20:24 < Gracenotes> heh
2008-03-10 20:24 < Cyrius> heh, president garfield had a dog named veto
2008-03-10 20:27 < Geoff_Plourde> you want a good joke?
2008-03-10 20:27 < Geoff_Plourde> Why did Clinton bomb Iraq?
2008-03-10 20:27 < Geoff_Plourde> After losing Monica, he wanted to bring saddam to his knees
2008-03-10 20:27 < The359> so you could tell lame jokes?
2008-03-10 20:27 < Geoff_Plourde> yes
2008-03-10 20:28 < Cyrius> not a good joke
2008-03-10 20:28 < The359> mission accomplished then
2008-03-10 20:28 < Geoff_Plourde> oh well
2008-03-10 20:28 < Geoff_Plourde> tough crowd
2008-03-10 20:28 < CalJohn_> The359: mission was not accomplished until the gwb presidency
2008-03-10 20:29 < Geoff_Plourde> What do bush and a hooker both have in common?
2008-03-10 20:29 < Gracenotes> CAKEPROPHET!
2008-03-10 20:29 < Geoff_Plourde> crabs
2008-03-10 20:29 < Cyrius> huh?
2008-03-10 20:29 * Gracenotes huggles CakeProphet
2008-03-10 20:30 < bumm13> ok......
2008-03-10 20:32 < Messedrocker> master hand on easy mode
2008-03-10 20:32 < Messedrocker> is too easy
2008-03-10 20:32 < CakeProphet> :o
2008-03-10 20:32 < CakeProphet> OH
2008-03-10 20:32 < CakeProphet> MY
2008-03-10 20:32 < CakeProphet> GO
2008-03-10 20:32 < CakeProphet> D
2008-03-10 20:32 < CakeProphet> ...hello
2008-03-10 20:33 < Gracenotes> what's been happening? in the past, uh, year or so?
2008-03-10 20:33 < CakeProphet> ...utter bullshit. as usual.
2008-03-10 20:33 < Gracenotes> oh. that's depressing.
2008-03-10 20:34 < CakeProphet> I have fell in love, suffered from a broken heart, made new friends, made new enemies, and pillaged peasant villages. Same old boring stuff.
2008-03-10 20:35 < HonoraryCat> la-dee-dah
2008-03-10 20:35 < Gracenotes> CakeProphet: good stuff, good stuff
2008-03-10 20:36 * Gracenotes suddenly realizes (again) that not too many people from #wikipedia are here anymore
2008-03-10 20:37 < Ody> lets all defame jesus
2008-03-10 20:37 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat, I tried the game with Wii Remote and Nunchuk, and boy was that annoying
2008-03-10 20:37 < Messedrocker> I promptly switched over to my GCN controller
2008-03-10 20:37 < Messedrocker> It is much much better.
2008-03-10 20:38 < Ody> so whats funnier then a dead baby?
2008-03-10 20:38 < Gracenotes> a kickban threat?
2008-03-10 20:38 < Ody> A DEAD BABY IN A CLOWN COSTUME WITH A KID WITH DOWN SYNDROME
2008-03-10 20:38 < ancjr> [[A DEAD BABY IN A CLOWN COSTUME WITH A KID WITH DOWN SYNDROME]]
2008-03-10 20:38 < ancjr> get to work
2008-03-10 20:39 < Ody> i dont make dreams reality
2008-03-10 20:40 < Gracenotes> Autocracy: good tidings to you
2008-03-10 20:40 < Autocracy> good evening Gracenotes
2008-03-10 20:40 < CakeProphet> gracenotes, I haven't touched Wikipedia in forever.
2008-03-10 20:41 < Gracenotes> *nods*
2008-03-10 20:48 < MosSwerve> can someone explain to me why WikiProject Numbers exists...? It seems like an entire project dedicated to trivia pages
2008-03-10 20:49 * HonoraryCat has never understood the anti-trivia stance
2008-03-10 20:49 < The359> How are they trivia?
2008-03-10 20:49 < MosSwerve> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/53_%28number%29
2008-03-10 20:49 < The359> It discusses important information regarding a number
2008-03-10 20:49 < MosSwerve> how is "53 Days" important information regarding a number..?
2008-03-10 20:50 * The359 shrug
2008-03-10 20:50 < HonoraryCat> oh, that's "in pop culture", I don't like that either
2008-03-10 20:51 < The359> I assume that page is not exactly what they're looking for when it comes to a proper numbers page
2008-03-10 20:51 < MosSwerve> the thing is, pretty much every single numbers page is full of that stuff
2008-03-10 20:51 < The359> There's a lot of numbers
2008-03-10 20:51 < MosSwerve> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_%28number%29 this is the flagship article, for example
2008-03-10 20:52 < MosSwerve> it has a lot of stuff, but I fail to see how I am in any way enlightened about the number 12 by knowing that it is Dwight Howard's jersey number
2008-03-10 20:52 < The359> well, it is sort of serving as a disambiguation page
2008-03-10 20:52 < MosSwerve> In technology: The number of function keys on most PC keyboards (F1 through F12)
2008-03-10 20:52 < MosSwerve> come on
2008-03-10 20:52 < The359> [[12]] for instance refers to the year
2008-03-10 20:52 < Gracenotes> enumeration is a bit silly
2008-03-10 20:53 < The359> while the other link is to [[12 (number) as an disambiguation
2008-03-10 20:53 < Gracenotes> There are twelve <object>s -- not needed, I should think
2008-03-10 20:56 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-10 20:56 < MosSwerve> the problem is that you can pretty much fit absolutely anything with the number "12" in it within that article. I would think that it would barely raise any eyebrows if I added "there are 12 episodes in season 6 of South Park"
2008-03-10 20:57 < The359> well that's why there's a WikiProject
2008-03-10 20:57 < The359> To decide what the limits are
2008-03-10 20:57 < The359> which was your question in the first place
2008-03-10 20:57 < The359> So, I wouldn't say they're creating trivia
2008-03-10 20:57 < The359> but rather limiting it
2008-03-10 20:58 < The359> they may not be limiting it as much as you like
2008-03-10 20:58 < nokmar> I'll bet it says that twelve comes before thirteen
2008-03-10 20:58 < The359> but they're still acting as a limit none the less
2008-03-10 20:59 < MosSwerve> well, based on the discussion pages, it looks like there isn't much limiting at all.
2008-03-10 21:00 < The359> well, they seem to have a large number of contributors
2008-03-10 21:00 < The359> so they would appear to have consensus on their side
2008-03-10 21:00 < HonoraryCat> there is no such thing as concensus except in compromise.
2008-03-10 21:01 < The359> not this again...
2008-03-10 21:01 < HonoraryCat> srsly
2008-03-10 21:02 < HonoraryCat> :-D
2008-03-10 21:02 < MosSwerve> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/35_%28number%29
2008-03-10 21:02 < MosSwerve> "35 is the highest number one can count to on one's fingers using base 6."
2008-03-10 21:02 < MosSwerve> seriously, come on
2008-03-10 21:02 * The359 shrug
2008-03-10 21:02 < The359> that *is* mathematics
2008-03-10 21:03 < The359> hardly seems like just any old trivia
2008-03-10 21:03 < Gracenotes> The359: it could be better expressed without the fingers item
2008-03-10 21:04 < The359> makes it easier to understand?
2008-03-10 21:04 * The359 notices the articles lack references
2008-03-10 21:04 < MosSwerve> there is an infinite amount of mathematics you can put in that article, 359. the key is to put significant things in it
2008-03-10 21:05 < The359> well clearly your opinion doesn't match others
2008-03-10 21:05 < Gracenotes> The359: well, take base 6, ten counting objects. Why not have eleven counting objects, or twelve? It seems a *bit* indiscriminate.
2008-03-10 21:06 < MosSwerve> it seems to me that if wikipedia was made up entirely of wikinumbers contributors, every article would be covered in video game and sports references
2008-03-10 21:06 * The359 sees a bit more thatn sports and video game references
2008-03-10 21:06 < MosSwerve> so there ought to be some kind of limit here, since the wikiproject numbers clearly is lacking in a certain something
2008-03-10 21:07 < The359> "clearly", since they have several members who seem to agree?
2008-03-10 21:08 < MosSwerve> clearly, because you can go to any conceivable numbers page and find something amusing enough to paste into #wikipedia and go "come on"
2008-03-10 21:08 < The359> you mean, you can
2008-03-10 21:09 < MosSwerve> look, i just popped a random number in and got: 76 The number of trombonists leading the parade in "Seventy-Six Trombones," from Meredith Willson's musical The Music Man.
2008-03-10 21:09 < The359> ok, and?
2008-03-10 21:10 < MosSwerve> and, what's the point? if we're allowing this, why not also allow vanity pages?
2008-03-10 21:10 < The359> because that's completely different?
2008-03-10 21:10 < The359> And the number may be memorable from a well known piece of work?
2008-03-10 21:11 * The359 bets the number 600 would mention [[Charge of the Light Brigade]]
2008-03-10 21:11 < MosSwerve> i checked for you.
2008-03-10 21:11 < The359> hmmm, actually it doesn't, but it also has barely anything outside of mathematics
2008-03-10 21:11 < MosSwerve> it doesn't. it DOES say: 600 is also the advertised number of miles that NASCAR runs in the Coca-Cola 600.
2008-03-10 21:12 < The359> yes, The 600 is a popular name for the Coca-Cola 600
2008-03-10 21:12 < The359> since it's the only 600 mile race they have
2008-03-10 21:12 < The359> Just as "The 500" is a popular name for the Indy 500
2008-03-10 21:12 < MosSwerve> yes, okay, it's true and it's a fairly known fact
2008-03-10 21:12 < MosSwerve> BUT
2008-03-10 21:12 < MosSwerve> it makes no sense to include in a general overview on a number
2008-03-10 21:12 < The359> why?
2008-03-10 21:13 < The359> It's a disambiguation page, as I said
2008-03-10 21:13 < TheWeasel> 30 is the number of years the Thirty Years War raged.
2008-03-10 21:13 < Demi> this was settled like in the 1700s
2008-03-10 21:13 < Demi> "there are no uninteresting numbers"
2008-03-10 21:13 < Random832> no
2008-03-10 21:13 < Random832> it's a page about the number
2008-03-10 21:13 < The359> Pages on numbers do not have to refer solely to the number's use in mathematics
2008-03-10 21:13 < Random832> 600 (disambiguation) is the proper place to have a disambiguation
2008-03-10 21:13 < The359> Except this is discussing the number
2008-03-10 21:13 < Random832> it's a brand name
2008-03-10 21:14 < The359> no, its a distance
2008-03-10 21:14 < The359> The Coca-Cola 600 is...600 miles
2008-03-10 21:14 < Random832> but it's not notable for that - it's notable as the name of the event
2008-03-10 21:14 < The359> actually, it is a notable event within NASCAR because of that distance
2008-03-10 21:15 < MooingLemur> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&num=100&complete=1&hl=en&safe=off&q=-%2840+F%29+in+C&btnG=Search
2008-03-10 21:15 < Gracenotes> because of the distance?
2008-03-10 21:15 < Gracenotes> hum :|
2008-03-10 21:15 < The359> its the longest event they have
2008-03-10 21:15 < The359> Considered an endurance event
2008-03-10 21:15 < The359> on par with the 1000km races of Europe
2008-03-10 21:16 < Gracenotes> well, not because it's 600 mi exactly
2008-03-10 21:16 < mexicanbanana> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo_Pocket_Color <-- This here article shows different titles in the main header and the second word in the first paragraph. Which is the correct spelling?
2008-03-10 21:17 < The359> what do you mean, Gracenotes?
2008-03-10 21:17 < Messedrocker> what i would like to invent
2008-03-10 21:17 < Messedrocker> is a bicycle-powered automobile
2008-03-10 21:17 < Messedrocker> it has all the functionality of a car, but it's a bicycle
2008-03-10 21:17 < MosSwerve> the point is, there are hundreds of things in the world that are significant and involve the number 600. and it seems that all of it falls under the scope of wikiprojects numbers
2008-03-10 21:18 < The359> all of it?
2008-03-10 21:18 < Demi> would that not make it a bicycle, not an automobile?
2008-03-10 21:18 < The359> wtf are you smoking
2008-03-10 21:18 < Messedrocker> Demi, yes
2008-03-10 21:18 < Messedrocker> my point is that it's like a car yet it runs as a bicycle
2008-03-10 21:18 < The359> you mean a human powered automobile?
2008-03-10 21:18 < The359> Rather than, you know, a motorcycle?
2008-03-10 21:18 < MosSwerve> The359, it seems like it. pretty much everyone is going under it right now
2008-03-10 21:19 < The359> No, MosSwerve, they're not
2008-03-10 21:19 < The359> if you think "everyone"
2008-03-10 21:19 < Messedrocker> a human powered automobile is one thing
2008-03-10 21:19 < The359> you have a small world around you
2008-03-10 21:19 < MosSwerve> sorry, everything
2008-03-10 21:19 < Messedrocker> i was also thinking of a more complicated version of a bicycle
2008-03-10 21:19 < MosSwerve> not everyone
2008-03-10 21:19 < The359> everything as well
2008-03-10 21:20 * The359 tries to find that weird motorcycle with a roof
2008-03-10 21:20 < gwern> 'Cold-blooded is a somewhat imprecise misnomer when applied to animals. What it's really trying to describe is animals with no self-maintained internal thermo-regulatory system. Snakes warm their bodies by doing things like basking in the sun or, in the case of Peruvian Mountain Anacondas, through sheer bloody-mindedness.'
2008-03-10 21:20 < mexicanbanana> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_Geo_Pocket_Color <-- This here article shows different titles in the main header and the second word in the first paragraph. Which is the correct spelling?
2008-03-10 21:20 < The359> don't know, mexicanbanana
2008-03-10 21:21 < mexicanbanana> I am pretty sure it's Neo Geo and not Neo-Geo.
2008-03-10 21:21 < Gracenotes> mexicanbanana: looks like there's also a CamelCase spelling
2008-03-10 21:21 < mexicanbanana> I hate it when things aren't researched properly. :(
2008-03-10 21:21 < The359> http://www.emercedesbenz.com/Images/Nov07/26_Mercedes_Benz_Research_Cars/23_Mercedes_Research_Cars_4/486562_850343_4724_4746_795285a2004f5535.jpg
2008-03-10 21:21 < The359> That's a bit close
2008-03-10 21:22 < The359> except its a motorcycle
2008-03-10 21:22 < mexicanbanana> An I hate it even worse when the company actually mixes the styles themselves.
2008-03-10 21:22 < The359> How would you expect people to do anything on a motorcycle while peddling?
2008-03-10 21:22 < The359> if the company mixes the styles, then both are correct?
2008-03-10 21:23 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Carver_one_06011701.jpg This is another car-like motorcycle
2008-03-10 21:23 < The359> except it tilts like a motorcycle
2008-03-10 21:24 < Messedrocker> car-like motorcycle, eh? looks cool
2008-03-10 21:24 < privatemusings> hey messedrocker!
2008-03-10 21:24 < quanticle> The359: What the hell? Is that a 3-wheeler?
2008-03-10 21:24 * Cyrius recalls a "motorcycle" that was fully enclosed and had little outriggers that came down to prop the machine up at stop
2008-03-10 21:24 < The359> yes
2008-03-10 21:24 < Messedrocker> i will use that general design to model my bicycar
2008-03-10 21:24 < quanticle> The359: Its an auto-rickshaw
2008-03-10 21:24 < The359> Honda Goldwings have those, Cyrius
2008-03-10 21:24 < MosSwerve> The359, the wikipedia page on 52 informs me that alfred hitchcock directed Strangers on a Train at the age of 52. also that Ray Lewis wore that number on his jersey, and that it's the number of letters in the english alphabet "if majuscules are distinguished from miniscules." Now, the english language is notable. Alfred Hitchcock is notable. Jason Babin is notable.
2008-03-10 21:24 < MosSwerve> But Hitchcock's age when directing a notable film...?
2008-03-10 21:25 < The359> Look, MosSwerve
2008-03-10 21:25 < Cyrius> MosSwerve: we get it, you can stop now
2008-03-10 21:25 < The359> No one said every page was perfect
2008-03-10 21:25 < Messedrocker> now, we must consider -- how efficient are the mechanical components of a bicycle?
2008-03-10 21:25 < quanticle> MosSwerve: Is probably notable.
2008-03-10 21:25 < Cyrius> The359: that's not enclosed
2008-03-10 21:25 < The359> You can't blame a project because some articles under their area are not perfect examples
2008-03-10 21:25 < MosSwerve> my point is, it's not just that one page
2008-03-10 21:25 < MosSwerve> it's all the pages
2008-03-10 21:25 < The359> I know, I was meaning the "landing gear" at stop lights
2008-03-10 21:25 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Rather efficient, actually. A well tuned bicycle can get you north of 90% efficiency.
2008-03-10 21:25 < The359> so you never had to put your leg down
2008-03-10 21:25 < Messedrocker> quanticle, lovely!
2008-03-10 21:25 < Cyrius> these were because you couldn't =)
2008-03-10 21:25 < privatemusings> 90%
2008-03-10 21:26 < privatemusings> ?
2008-03-10 21:26 < Messedrocker> now, how much energy is needed to power a bicycle?
2008-03-10 21:26 < MosSwerve> it's their flagship article, it's everything
2008-03-10 21:26 * privatemusings is amazed, and a bit cynical.....
2008-03-10 21:26 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Depends on how heavy the person riding it is...
2008-03-10 21:26 < The359> Well then whine about it to them, MosSwerve
2008-03-10 21:26 < The359> And when they tell you they're not going to change it, move on
2008-03-10 21:26 < Cyrius> privatemusings: not much in a bicycle to lose energy
2008-03-10 21:26 < Cyrius> the inefficiency is in the human =)
2008-03-10 21:26 < privatemusings> well it depends how we define efficiency then, I guess....
2008-03-10 21:27 < quanticle> privatemusings: A properly adjusted bicycle can easily get north of 90%. They've measured racing bikes as high as 98% efficiency.
2008-03-10 21:27 < privatemusings> from muslces to velocity?
2008-03-10 21:27 < Cyrius> more or less
2008-03-10 21:27 < quanticle> privatemusings: The amount of energy from your muscles that is transferred to the road...
2008-03-10 21:27 * FastLizard4 bursts into the room holding an AK-47
2008-03-10 21:27 < Cyrius> if the moving parts are well-lubricated and the tires aren't flat
2008-03-10 21:27 < Cyrius> I could see 90% easily
2008-03-10 21:27 < privatemusings> that's pretty awesome!
2008-03-10 21:28 * privatemusings considers going and getting a bike.....
2008-03-10 21:28 < gwern> the wake from one of those bikes could suck the chrome off a fender
2008-03-10 21:28 < Lycurgus> The gaping maw of cable news networks, blogs, Internet publications, magazines and newspapers will be hungry for content - and how the Clinton and Obama handle the demand could help determine the outcome. - CBS News
2008-03-10 21:28 < quanticle> Cyrius: The study I looked at said that tightness of the chain, inflation of the tires, and lubrication of wheel axles were the most important factor.
2008-03-10 21:28 < The359> less moving parts in a bicycle, theoretically
2008-03-10 21:29 < The359> depending on if you have multiple gears
2008-03-10 21:29 < gwern> privatemusings: ironically, if you get most of your calories from meat, some cars get better MPG than you on a bike
2008-03-10 21:29 < Cyrius> quanticle: chain tightness, thought I forgot something
2008-03-10 21:29 * privatemusings returns to petrol driven transport on gwern's advice...
2008-03-10 21:29 < quanticle> The359: To be sure, the 98% efficiency bike was a single speed racing bike, so it had very few moving parts.
2008-03-10 21:29 < The359> figured
2008-03-10 21:29 < NotACow> I HAS A STICK
2008-03-10 21:30 < The359> gear changes on a bicycle are probably less efficient than changing gears on a motorcycle
2008-03-10 21:30 < The359> then agin, some motorcycles have belt drives rather than chain
2008-03-10 21:30 < The359> not sure what affect that has on efficiency
2008-03-10 21:31 < NotACow> belt drives are less efficint
2008-03-10 21:31 < NotACow> you lose energy bending and unbending the belt
2008-03-10 21:31 < The359> ok
2008-03-10 21:31 < gwern> privatemusings: the problem is that biking has requires x calories, and providing x calories from meat requires a ridiculous amount of oil to be expended in the overall econocmy; whereas if you are a grain-muncher, your efficiency on a bike goes to ~200 MPG
2008-03-10 21:31 < NotACow> chain drives vibrate, though
2008-03-10 21:31 < zocky> ...
2008-03-10 21:31 < Lycurgus> (and no "I" didn't leave out the "teams". Welcome to the internet age CBS.)
2008-03-10 21:31 * privatemusings commits to learning to photosynthesise for the good of the planet.....
2008-03-10 21:31 < NotACow> gwern: although grain production uses a lot of fuel too
2008-03-10 21:32 * Lycurgus resists comment on bovine flatulence
2008-03-10 21:32 < zocky> nuclear power plant + compressed air engines is the solution to all our fuel problems for a long while
2008-03-10 21:32 < NotACow> zocky: nonsense
2008-03-10 21:32 < NotACow> zocky: there is not nearly enough uranium
2008-03-10 21:33 < zocky> NotACow, you think so?
2008-03-10 21:33 < Cyrius> there's plenty of uranium if we weren't stupidly throwing it away when it's still 98% useful fuel
2008-03-10 21:33 < gwern> NotACow: true, but as compared with meat? You've got the 10% calorics transfer from grain to animal, than you have all the difficulties of managing animals, and so on
2008-03-10 21:33 < privatemusings> it's not uranium, it's myranium....
2008-03-10 21:33 < privatemusings> so there.
2008-03-10 21:34 < zocky> NotACow, supposedly, charging your car every day at home would cost you 15 euros per month
2008-03-10 21:34 < quanticle> Cyrius: Whoa - apparently bikes are even better than I thought. http://www.jhu.edu/news_info/news/home99/aug99/bike.html
2008-03-10 21:34 < zocky> NotACow, that's 20-50% increase in a normal household electricity bill
2008-03-10 21:34 < zocky> doesn't seem that much
2008-03-10 21:38 < quanticle> Cyrius: Yeah. I still don't know what the issue is with spent fuel reprocessing in the US.
2008-03-10 21:38 < Cyrius> quanticle: what do you mean?
2008-03-10 21:39 < Cyrius> the US doesn't do it, and it doesn't do it because the reprocessing technology is the same stuff you use to extract weapons-grade fissiles
2008-03-10 21:39 < Cyrius> as if everybody else didn't already know how to do that
2008-03-10 21:42 < quanticle> Cyrius: Right. Its not like the making of atomic weapons is (or ever was) a deep secret. Given that, I don't know why US administrations have such a bugaboo about spent fuel reprocessing.
2008-03-10 21:45 < quanticle> The only tricky part of making an atomic weapon work was to time the capacitor firing to make the bomb go off properly. Since the original bombmakers worked in an era before microprocessors, this was a nontrivial proposition.
2008-03-10 21:45 < quanticle> However, given advances in high-speed integrated circuits, it'
2008-03-10 21:45 < quanticle> d
2008-03-10 21:45 < NotACow> quanticle: modern microprocessors are not terribly helpful for nuclear bombs
2008-03-10 21:46 < quanticle> NotACow: Why not?
2008-03-10 21:46 < NotACow> quanticle: most microprocessors are radiation-sensitive, and nuclear devices tend to have issues with stray radiation.
2008-03-10 21:46 < quanticle> NotACow: That is true. However, you don't need an especially sophisticated microprocessor to do the job. Basically, all you need is a fast timing circuit.
2008-03-10 21:47 < NotACow> quanticle: as long as you can harden it.
2008-03-10 21:47 < NotACow> quanticle: you're right that modern semiconductors can make those devices much more simple and reliable.
2008-03-10 21:47 < quanticle> Right. It ought to be much easier to harden a timing circuit than a full-blown ALU
2008-03-10 21:47 < NotACow> quanticle: probably.
2008-03-10 21:48 < NotACow> quanticle: there are actually radiation-hardened processors.
2008-03-10 21:48 < quanticle> Yeah. The Air Force insists upon them for their planes.
2008-03-10 21:48 < NotACow> quanticle: i know there's a rad-hard variant of the Z-80, and i've heard rumors of a rad-hard 386.
2008-03-10 21:49 < NotACow> it would be bloody hard to harden a pentium, to say nothing of the newer low-micron designs
2008-03-10 21:49 < Cyrius> my polatishans, let me show you them: http://i29.tinypic.com/1zx6ttt.gif
2008-03-10 21:49 < quanticle> I think the 386 was the last Intel chip to be rad-hardened. After that, the process was too small...
2008-03-10 21:50 < NotACow> CHOCOLATE BUNNY FOR PRESIDENT
2008-03-10 21:50 < bumm13> hiya Mark_Ryan
2008-03-10 21:51 < Mark_Ryan> leave me alone, I'm cyber-stalking
2008-03-10 21:51 < quanticle> Cyrius: Heh. That's awesome.
2008-03-10 21:51 < quanticle> Mark_Ryan: Who're you stalking?
2008-03-10 21:51 * NotACow stalks Mark_Ryan
2008-03-10 21:52 * privatemusings bemoans his consistent lack of a stalker...
2008-03-10 21:52 < Mark_Ryan> oh, you know, random friends-of-friends who I have absolutely no reason to be viewing the profiles/looking at the facebook pictures of...
2008-03-10 21:52 * privatemusings can't be taken seriously until he's had at least one......
2008-03-10 21:52 < NotACow> privatemusings: you could always buy one on ebay
2008-03-10 21:52 < privatemusings> spent all my cash on a t shirt......
2008-03-10 21:52 < NotACow> privatemusings: it's the same category as wikipedia admin accounts
2008-03-10 21:53 < quanticle> NotACow: Heh. One stalker for sale, slightly used. Not guaranteed to not actually find you and murder you in your sleep.
2008-03-10 21:55 < NotACow> one of my sims wants to blog
2008-03-10 22:00 < Cyrius> quanticle: "If only politicians could be captured and controlled using small red and white balls. If only."
2008-03-10 22:01 < The359> I don't want to hear about politicians small white balls
2008-03-10 22:01 < Lycurgus> that pic of elliot spitzer on ABC news.com looks he just said "daggumit"
2008-03-10 22:02 < Lycurgus> *like
2008-03-10 22:03 < Lycurgus> and the exprssions on the missus could be either "what, he bangs whores? who knew!" or ...
2008-03-10 22:03 < Lycurgus> "at least he's straight".
2008-03-10 22:03 < TheWeasel> back
2008-03-10 22:05 < Cyrius> Lycurgus: that's because this is a democratic sex scandal =)
2008-03-10 22:05 < bumm13> hiya Weasel
2008-03-10 22:06 < Cyrius> if he were a republican, it'd have been a male prostitute
2008-03-10 22:06 < TheWeasel> Eh
2008-03-10 22:06 < Lycurgus> right the dems already did that with barney frank
2008-03-10 22:06 < Lycurgus> but he wasn't a mongerer
2008-03-10 22:06 < TheWeasel> those personal things are insanely overrated.
2008-03-10 22:07 < TheWeasel> oh, there are penalties on it
2008-03-10 22:07 < TheWeasel> that changes it
2008-03-10 22:07 < TheWeasel> hm
2008-03-10 22:07 < Demi> TheWeasel - apparently this fellow was known for prosecuting "prostitution rings"
2008-03-10 22:07 < TheWeasel> money-laundering
2008-03-10 22:08 < TheWeasel> yea, I forgot those things are generally not tolerated
2008-03-10 22:08 < bumm13> Demi: you're still here :)
2008-03-10 22:08 < Demi> a bit
2008-03-10 22:08 < Demi> i'm flying by and then i'm out again to do my groceries
2008-03-10 22:09 < bumm13> ah ok
2008-03-10 22:10 < TheWeasel> Hillary can run for governor of NY.
2008-03-10 22:10 < Mike_H> bumm13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dwA8qNEPQI
2008-03-10 22:10 < Mike_H> I found a 227 minisode!
2008-03-10 22:10 < quanticle> Cyrius: Heh. That actually brings up something that I was wondering about. How the hell can one store a big pokemon, like say a Charizard, in a tiny-ass sphere?
2008-03-10 22:10 < Mike_H> YouTube has a "minisode" account
2008-03-10 22:10 < Mike_H> in which your favorite classic sitcoms are condensed to five minutes of the plot and best lines
2008-03-10 22:10 < Cyrius> couldn't tell you
2008-03-10 22:11 < NotACow> quanticle: quantum compaction!
2008-03-10 22:12 < Miranda> fyi, there was just spamming in #defocus
2008-03-10 22:13 < quanticle> Miranda: Yeah. I just saw that.
2008-03-10 22:13 < Mike_H> bumm13: MinisodeNetwork, from what I can tell, is owned by Sony
2008-03-10 22:13 < quanticle> NotACow: Huh? I don't get it. How can you store a Pokemon that's the size of a small building in a tiny 5-cm diameter sphere?
2008-03-10 22:13 < Mike_H> they only have Sony sitcoms
2008-03-10 22:14 < Mike_H> and some Sony-owned animated series, and then Ricki Lake, which is also owned by Sony
2008-03-10 22:14 < NotACow> quanticle: quantum compaction, i tell you!
2008-03-10 22:14 < Mark_Ryan> Mike_H: I get a "This video is not available in your country." when trying to view most of their videos
2008-03-10 22:14 < NotACow> your country sucks
2008-03-10 22:14 < anon32> Mark_Ryan, ITS RACIST
2008-03-10 22:15 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: Probably because Sony owns the rights in the US but not always in other countries
2008-03-10 22:15 < Mark_Ryan> I wonder if using tor will let me access it
2008-03-10 22:15 < Mark_Ryan> it's kind of ridiculous
2008-03-10 22:15 < NotACow> DEATH TO TOR
2008-03-10 22:15 < Demi> now where would we be if australians could watch 227 minisodes, i ask you?
2008-03-10 22:15 < Mark_Ryan> i mean, I don't *really* need to see a 5-minute I Dream of Jeannie minisode
2008-03-10 22:15 < Demi> for one thing, the australian censors have probably not approved the content.
2008-03-10 22:15 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: lulz
2008-03-10 22:16 < Mike_H> Demi: MinisodeNetwork has a good attitude about how bad some of the shows are
2008-03-10 22:16 < Mike_H> here's a summary of a Ricki Lake episode
2008-03-10 22:16 < Mike_H> It's a show about bigotry, ignorance and hatred, bookended with uplifting synth music that'll make your teeth hurt. Guess the KKK doesn't discriminate based on bad outfits or creepy haircuts. This is quintessential Ricki Lake. Gobble it up.
2008-03-10 22:17 < TheWeasel> Heh... Steve King (R-IA) is not running for re-election
2008-03-10 22:17 < TheWeasel> that's the guy who always worried about the vast Iowa-Mexico border
2008-03-10 22:17 < TheWeasel> *is
2008-03-10 22:17 < Mike_H> Demi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHeGbvrAaMo
2008-03-10 22:18 < quanticle> TheWeasel: Is he running for reelection or isn't he?
2008-03-10 22:18 < Demi> sorry, doing my medical bills
2008-03-10 22:18 < TheWeasel> oh right, I misread that
2008-03-10 22:18 < NotACow> australia has censors?
2008-03-10 22:18 < TheWeasel> he's not running for Harkin's senate seat
2008-03-10 22:18 < TheWeasel> so he'll run for the House again
2008-03-10 22:18 < Demi> NotACow - yeah, in fact they actually outlaw stuff from time totime
2008-03-10 22:18 < NotACow> Demi: how lame!
2008-03-10 22:19 < Mike_H> Oh, God, no wonder Ricki looked so porky here
2008-03-10 22:19 < Mike_H> and the outfits were bad
2008-03-10 22:19 < Mike_H> this aired in 1993
2008-03-10 22:19 < Demi> NotACow - well, you did say it sucked
2008-03-10 22:19 < Mark_Ryan> you know, the season 1 and 2 opening credits of Diff'rent Strokes really looks like a pedophile in action... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmfH1RsxWEc&feature=related
2008-03-10 22:20 < NotACow> /var/lib/dhcp/dhcpd.leasesTOR TOR
2008-03-10 22:20 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: Oh, you mean when Mr. Drummond sweeps up the kids
2008-03-10 22:20 < Mike_H> yeah, for real
2008-03-10 22:20 < Demi> NotACow - some form of official censorship seems to be de rigeuer in commonwealth countries
2008-03-10 22:20 < NotACow> Demi: i did?
2008-03-10 22:20 < Mark_Ryan> car pulls up beside basketball court, kids get into car with dirty old white guy
2008-03-10 22:20 < Mike_H> Mark_Ryan: a dirty old white guy with money
2008-03-10 22:20 < quanticle> Say, can anyone recommend a good set of headphones for under $100?
2008-03-10 22:20 < NotACow> Mike_H: a republican?
2008-03-10 22:20 < quanticle> Do such things even exist?
2008-03-10 22:20 < Mike_H> NotACow: Do you think Mr. Drummond would be a Republican?
2008-03-10 22:20 < NotACow> quanticle: republicans?
2008-03-10 22:20 < Demi> NotACow - "[20:14:35] Mark_Ryan: Mike_H: I get a "This video is not available in your country." when trying to view most of their videos
2008-03-10 22:20 < Demi> [20:14:43] NotACow: your country sucks"
2008-03-10 22:20 < NotACow> Mike_H: he's a dirty old man with money, seems probable.