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2008-03-09 13:52 < nokmar> just brute force it, find a pattern
2008-03-09 13:52 < nokmar> or:
2008-03-09 13:52 < nokmar> draw a graph.
2008-03-09 13:52 < faroframkallande> quanticle: 1-(1/k)?
2008-03-09 13:52 < nokmar> essentially, it's the k-1 triangle number
2008-03-09 13:53 < nokmar> divided by k*k
2008-03-09 13:53 < faroframkallande> I don't hav paper tothink, so...
2008-03-09 13:54 < namoo> Hello, how to report error?
2008-03-09 13:56 < nokmar> (k-1)/2k
2008-03-09 13:56 < namoo> There is a repitition error in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manah%2C_Oman
2008-03-09 13:57 < quanticle> nokmar: I don't think so. For k=6, I'm getting (5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1)/36
2008-03-09 13:58 < quanticle> nokmar: It *is* the k-th triangle number over k^2
2008-03-09 13:59 < nokmar> right: I can't think
2008-03-09 14:00 < nokmar> my latest answer should be right, though
2008-03-09 14:09 < Miranda> someone might want to investigate this user's behavior
2008-03-09 14:09 < Miranda> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Microchip08
2008-03-09 14:09 < Miranda> all of his edits are game related
2008-03-09 14:10 < nokmar> Miranda: ?
2008-03-09 14:10 < nokmar> what's wrong?
2008-03-09 14:11 < Miranda> all of his edits are user page related
2008-03-09 14:11 < Aqwis2> hardly
2008-03-09 14:11 < Miranda> and he does not contribute content
2008-03-09 14:11 < Aqwis2> that he has in common with lots of our editors ;)
2008-03-09 14:11 < Aqwis2> not all of his edits are user page related
2008-03-09 14:11 < Aqwis2> he does not contribute content, true, but still
2008-03-09 14:12 < nokmar> I see stub-tagging
2008-03-09 14:12 < Miranda> yeah
2008-03-09 14:12 < Aqwis2> jesus, Miranda, agf
2008-03-09 14:12 < Miranda> uh I do
2008-03-09 14:12 < Aqwis2> then why did you comment on it at all?
2008-03-09 14:12 < Aqwis2> the user has done nothing wrong
2008-03-09 14:13 < nokmar> and vandalism reverting
2008-03-09 14:14 < Miranda> meh, doesn't really matter anyway...
2008-03-09 14:14 < Aqwis2> of course it doesn't
2008-03-09 14:15 < nokmar> maybe I should reignore her.
2008-03-09 14:20 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-09 14:20 < nokmar> was yesterday.
2008-03-09 14:25 * autocracy poks [[WP:RFA]]
2008-03-09 14:29 < rw> cat
2008-03-09 14:29 < SaxPlayer> meow
2008-03-09 14:29 < rw> Ceiling_Cat, now, are you the one from australia, or are you not? ;)
2008-03-09 14:29 < SaxPlayer> Ceiling_Cat, stop watching me masturbating!
2008-03-09 14:30 < rw> because i remeber a white_cat beeing from a rather nice place in australia :)
2008-03-09 14:36 * ST47 glances at #wikipedia
2008-03-09 14:36 * ST47 rolls eyes
2008-03-09 14:37 * SaxPlayer does look at ST47
2008-03-09 14:37 * SaxPlayer pokes ST47 sooooooooooo hard
2008-03-09 14:40 * Sanchom is afraid of violence
2008-03-09 14:41 < ST47> Don't be ;)
2008-03-09 14:42 * NotASpy kicks ST47
2008-03-09 14:45 < rw> now now, lets behave here, there are children present
2008-03-09 14:45 * ST47 is slightly concerned that noone asked him why he banned saxplayer
2008-03-09 14:46 < NotASpy> why did you ban SaxPlayer then ?
2008-03-09 14:48 < ST47> Cause he's w00t
2008-03-09 14:48 * ST47 whacks Ceiling_Cat with a heavy mallet
2008-03-09 14:53 < rw> ST47, is that really a reason for banning a person?
2008-03-09 14:53 < ST47> TBH, yes.
2008-03-09 14:53 < rw> tbh?
2008-03-09 14:53 < ST47> He's the fool who tries to flood this channel with bots almost daily
2008-03-09 14:53 < rw> oh i see
2008-03-09 14:58 < mexicanbanana> I am looking for complete, reliable, official, proper, free, computer readable lists of all (commercial) video games, movies and music albums ever created. Surely this MUST be available somewhere?
2008-03-09 14:59 < Sfan00> Sadly not
2008-03-09 14:59 < mexicanbanana> How can that be?
2008-03-09 14:59 < Sfan00> Because the industry wants people to forget stuff
2008-03-09 14:59 < mexicanbanana> Why?
2008-03-09 14:59 < Sfan00> And also not all 'official' companies bother to list stuff
2008-03-09 15:00 < Sfan00> re albums and films you coult try asking the MAFIAA , but I doubt thier database is 'free'
2008-03-09 15:00 < Sfan00> HI ST47
2008-03-09 15:00 < Sfan00> :)
2008-03-09 15:01 < quanticle> Don't forget the fact that there were a lot of video games (especially in the early days) that were published by small fly-by-night companies. When those companies folded, they, and their games disappeared.
2008-03-09 15:02 < Sfan00> Not just fly-by-nights...
2008-03-09 15:02 < Sfan00> Some where fly-by-dusks ;)
2008-03-09 15:02 < quanticle> Sfan00: Yeah. There are a lot of medium sized companies whose games are all-but-forgotten now - look at FASA for example.
2008-03-09 15:03 < shimgray> more to the point, researching and compiling these lists takes money and effort
2008-03-09 15:03 < shimgray> any organisation that does so will charge for their use to recoup that cost
2008-03-09 15:04 < quanticle> Yeah. This is the sort of stuff that you'd need to pay a historian to do.
2008-03-09 15:04 < shimgray> it's a seriously nontrivial task
2008-03-09 15:06 < quanticle> Speaking of FASA games, does anyone know where I can get Crescent Hawks' Revenge?
2008-03-09 15:11 < Gracenotes> apparently not
2008-03-09 15:12 < Lubaf> quanticle: Hell, where it belongs.
2008-03-09 15:15 < Sfan00> quanticle: Has it been liberated?
2008-03-09 15:15 < Sfan00> Try Ebay>
2008-03-09 15:15 < Sfan00> ?
2008-03-09 15:17 < Ryan_wp> Good afternoon.
2008-03-09 15:18 < Lubaf> Anyway.
2008-03-09 15:18 < Lubaf> What's old?
2008-03-09 15:21 < shimgray> Permian shale.
2008-03-09 15:24 < Sonja> what are these guys selling? http://pics.livejournal.com/n0mad0/pic/0000gk7z
2008-03-09 15:26 < NotASpy> looks like bits of a tree
2008-03-09 15:28 < Sonja> maybe it's faggots
2008-03-09 15:29 < Gracenotes> Sonja: etymology alert: that doesn't mean that anymore.
2008-03-09 15:38 < mexicanbanana> Sonja: Faggots?!
2008-03-09 15:38 < Sonja> yeah look at the picture
2008-03-09 15:38 < Cyrius> Sonja: rhubarb
2008-03-09 15:38 < Sonja> rhubarb looks diffeerent in canada
2008-03-09 15:38 < mexicanbanana> Looks like stuff you beat each other with in the sauna.
2008-03-09 15:38 < Sonja> ohhh birch branches?
2008-03-09 15:38 < Cyrius> looks like not colorful rhubarb
2008-03-09 15:40 < Cyrius> wrong leaves for birch
2008-03-09 15:41 < Thehelpfulone2> any Twinkle users - you might want to join #Twinkle -- although it is a new channel :)
2008-03-09 15:41 < Sfan00> Thehelpfulone2: Thanks
2008-03-09 15:41 < Sfan00> TWINKLE is a useful tool with training
2008-03-09 15:41 < Thehelpfulone2> :D
2008-03-09 15:41 < Sfan00> but you can anger a lot of people very quicly with it
2008-03-09 15:41 < Sfan00> :O
2008-03-09 15:42 < Sfan00> <evil grin>
2008-03-09 15:50 < ST47> 3/redraw
2008-03-09 15:51 < ST47> God I hate irssi
2008-03-09 15:51 < bumm13> hiya Messedrocker
2008-03-09 15:52 < Messedrocker> up up down down left right left right b a b a
2008-03-09 15:53 < bumm13> as long as it isn't the Jaws game :P
2008-03-09 15:55 < quanticle> Sfan00: No. I don't think any FASA games have been liberated. Yeah, eBay is probably my best option.
2008-03-09 15:55 < bumm13> he's gone
2008-03-09 15:57 < [blackb]> i m serching Mediwiki:Edittools example very nice where could i found it?
2008-03-09 15:57 < Michael_Reschke> where is the chat of german wikipedia?
2008-03-09 15:57 < Michael_Reschke> #wikipedia_de or what?
2008-03-09 15:57 < ST47> #wikipedia-de
2008-03-09 15:58 < Michael_Reschke> thanks ! ! !
2008-03-09 15:59 < [blackb]> ST47:could u help me?
2008-03-09 15:59 * Ceiling_Cat huggles black
2008-03-09 15:59 < Ceiling_Cat> [blackb]*
2008-03-09 16:00 < ST47> Maybe
2008-03-09 16:00 < ST47> Can you ask your question in english?
2008-03-09 16:00 < [blackb]> yes
2008-03-09 16:00 < [blackb]> i would personalize my edit page
2008-03-09 16:00 < [blackb]> i insert samething with edittolls
2008-03-09 16:00 < ST47> On your personal wiki, or on Wikipedia
2008-03-09 16:01 < [blackb]> personal wiki
2008-03-09 16:01 < ST47> Ok
2008-03-09 16:01 < [blackb]> i would add samething more to write text
2008-03-09 16:01 < [blackb]> or listen music for example
2008-03-09 16:02 < ST47> I don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about
2008-03-09 16:05 < [blackb]> need to put into edit page same intresting about formatting text
2008-03-09 16:05 < [blackb]> for example ___________________________
2008-03-09 16:05 < [blackb]> character dimension
2008-03-09 16:06 < [blackb]> color of caracter
2008-03-09 16:06 < [blackb]> 1)
2008-03-09 16:06 < [blackb]> 2)
2008-03-09 16:06 < [blackb]> 3)
2008-03-09 16:06 < [blackb]> thet :)
2008-03-09 16:06 * bumm13 coughs
2008-03-09 16:09 < gwern> 'It was a four day weekend and I worked hard all four days but the weather was great and I a good dose of Central Park each day skating and fruitlessly pursuing romance. (I liked to concentrate on new skaters because they cannot skate well enough to get away from me.)'
2008-03-09 16:26 < d4t4min3r> is anyone on that is a admin for the wikipedia site
2008-03-09 16:26 < d4t4min3r> I have a question
2008-03-09 16:27 < d4t4min3r> about my article .. if its spam or not
2008-03-09 16:29 < Thehelpfulone2> d4t4min3r: could you link to the article? and do you mean the English Wikipedia ?
2008-03-09 16:29 < d4t4min3r> yeah english
2008-03-09 16:29 < d4t4min3r> money man pawn
2008-03-09 16:29 < d4t4min3r> I think my article just got dleteed
2008-03-09 16:30 < Thehelpfulone2> d4t4min3r: can you provide a link to the article please?
2008-03-09 16:30 < Thehelpfulone2> for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main Page
2008-03-09 16:30 < Thehelpfulone2> for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page *
2008-03-09 16:30 < Thehelpfulone2> (from the address bar) :D
2008-03-09 16:31 < d4t4min3r> its been deleted
2008-03-09 16:31 < Thehelpfulone2> d4t4min3r: do you have a username on wikipedia?
2008-03-09 16:31 < d4t4min3r> A tag has been placed on Money man pawn, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read our the guidelines on spam as well as the Wikipedia:Business' FAQ f
2008-03-09 16:31 < d4t4min3r> yes
2008-03-09 16:31 < d4t4min3r> same
2008-03-09 16:31 < d4t4min3r> d4t4min3r
2008-03-09 16:31 < Thehelpfulone2> [[User:d4t4min3r]]
2008-03-09 16:32 < Thehelpfulone2> d4t4min3r: The article was deleted because it was *blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person*
2008-03-09 16:32 < Thehelpfulone2> without looking at the deleted article, I would say that you would have to write the article, without making the article read like advertising
2008-03-09 16:33 < d4t4min3r> I just posted moneyman pawn and the link to the site
2008-03-09 16:33 < d4t4min3r> the site sells nothing
2008-03-09 16:33 < syntaxerror55> WP isn't a place where you just post things
2008-03-09 16:33 < syntaxerror55> We're trying to build an encyclopedia
2008-03-09 16:34 < syntaxerror55> See [[Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information]]
2008-03-09 16:34 < d4t4min3r> I was adding the locations, starting location
2008-03-09 16:34 < d4t4min3r> phone numbers.. owner name
2008-03-09 16:34 < syntaxerror55> (or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information)
2008-03-09 17:17 < NotACow> HIDE!
2008-03-09 17:18 < Messedrocker> HYDE!
2008-03-09 17:22 < syntaxerror55> ...HIDE?
2008-03-09 17:22 < Messedrocker> CLYDE!
2008-03-09 17:24 < NotACow> HENRY HYDE!
2008-03-09 17:24 < compwhizii> What are he hding from now?
2008-03-09 17:25 < compwhizii> hiding*
2008-03-09 17:25 < dungodung> your spelling mistakes :P
2008-03-09 17:25 < NotACow> henry's dead, actually
2008-03-09 17:25 < compwhizii> awww
2008-03-09 17:25 < compwhizii> :(
2008-03-09 17:32 < NotACow> compwhizii: henry was a jerk.
2008-03-09 17:33 < compwhizii> oh :)
2008-03-09 17:51 < J_Milburn> d4t4min3r: I am an admin, and I can assure you, that article does fall under spam.
2008-03-09 17:51 * Cyrius looks
2008-03-09 17:52 < Cyrius> wikipedia is not the yellow pages
2008-03-09 17:52 < Cyrius> and that definitely is an ad
2008-03-09 17:53 < Cyrius> but I think that has been thoroughly established
2008-03-09 17:58 < christel> THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MEET FREENODE STANDARDS AND IS MARKED FOR DELETION
2008-03-09 17:58 < christel> er, oops
2008-03-09 17:58 < spb> mispaste?
2008-03-09 17:59 < christel> .1
2008-03-09 18:00 < Platonides> trolling?
2008-03-09 18:00 < spb> who would do such a thing?
2008-03-09 18:00 < Cyrius> certainly not freenode staff, no sir!
2008-03-09 18:00 < spb> indeed
2008-03-09 18:01 < spb> guess it must be true then
2008-03-09 18:01 < Platonides> christel, is in the freenode staff
2008-03-09 18:01 * christel giggles
2008-03-09 18:02 < Cyrius> Platonides: whoooosh
2008-03-09 18:02 < Platonides> ?
2008-03-09 18:03 < quanticle> gwern: Question - yesterday, we talked about a book called "The Stillborn God", and you recommended two similar books. I wrote them down, but I lost the paper. Can you PM me the titles of those two books again?
2008-03-09 18:03 < Snax> is Wikipedia being non standard?
2008-03-09 18:03 < Cyrius> Snax: that's a very vague question
2008-03-09 18:03 < NotASpy> in what way, Snax ?
2008-03-09 18:04 < gwern> quanticle|away: [[The Origins of Totalitarianism]]. [[Constantine's Sword]]
2008-03-09 18:04 < Platonides> NotASpy, in the way christel says i guess
2008-03-09 18:05 < Platonides> however i think that was just trolling
2008-03-09 18:05 < spb> but she's staff
2008-03-09 18:05 < spb> she can't possibly troll
2008-03-09 18:05 < Platonides> that's the confusing bit
2008-03-09 18:05 < christel> spb: darling, you are such a troll
2008-03-09 18:05 < spb> AM NOT :(
2008-03-09 18:05 * spb sulks
2008-03-09 18:06 * soufron hello
2008-03-09 18:06 < christel> i agree, dont call the trolls
2008-03-09 18:06 < christel> call ghostbusters
2008-03-09 18:06 < spb> damn you
2008-03-09 18:07 < spb> beat me to it
2008-03-09 18:07 < gwern> Quendus: [[The Origins of Totalitarianism]]. [[Constantine's Sword]]
2008-03-09 18:07 < gwern> oops.
2008-03-09 18:07 < NotASpy> you on commission or something, gwern ? ;-)
2008-03-09 18:09 < Liempt> Hi 3varyan3lal!~!~~!
2008-03-09 18:10 < Liempt> 4ct|_|411y, |}4t's gaa|} paintlal!~!~~! BY3 \/\/IKIP3|}I4lal!~!~~!
2008-03-09 18:10 * thedj built a new tool :D
2008-03-09 18:10 < thedj> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Qui.png
2008-03-09 18:11 < gwern> thedj: what be that?
2008-03-09 18:11 < thedj> gwern: status switcher and "friends list" javascript usertool
2008-03-09 18:11 < thedj> I call it Qui
2008-03-09 18:11 < gwern> bah. you trying to make WP into a social networking site?
2008-03-09 18:12 < thedj> no, it's not for chatting. it's more like an enhanced userwatchlist script.
2008-03-09 18:13 < thedj> it shows how long ago someone made and edit (approx) and if he uses /Status
2008-03-09 18:17 < NotASpy> thedj: could you stick something like "self made" under the Source part of the summary on Commons, just to make sure it doesn't get tagged for deletion.
2008-03-09 18:18 < thedj> ?
2008-03-09 18:18 < thedj> ah, i only added it to author... duh.
2008-03-09 18:21 < quanticle> gwern: Did you get my ping?
2008-03-09 18:23 < The359> rawk
2008-03-09 18:24 < The359> just earned my second GA approval
2008-03-09 18:24 < Gracenotes> The359: which article?
2008-03-09 18:24 < The359> [[Richard Lloyd Racing]]
2008-03-09 18:26 * Gracenotes notes that racing is not his forte
2008-03-09 18:26 < The359> yeah
2008-03-09 18:27 < Gracenotes> although, I picked up the gist from reading it -- clearly written enough for someone like me to understand :)
2008-03-09 18:27 < The359> I try
2008-03-09 18:28 < mexicanbanana> I refuse to believe that there is no good list out there that I can steal of all the commercials games ever made. Somebody must have compiled one. The Wikipedia articles are all in different formats with lots of fluff and not suitable for gathering with a program.
2008-03-09 18:28 < mexicanbanana> Video games, that is.
2008-03-09 18:29 < mexicanbanana> IMDb.com I suppose has a fairly complete lists of films.
2008-03-09 18:31 < quanticle> mexicanbanana: Refusing to believe that a list such as that doesn't exist won't make it magically pop into existence.
2008-03-09 18:31 < Cyrius> mobygames?
2008-03-09 18:31 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-09 18:32 < quanticle> mexicanbanana: I'd probably look at GameFAQs. They have a pretty comprehensive list.
2008-03-09 18:32 * quanticle complies with Ceiling_Cat's request
2008-03-09 18:32 * mexicanbanana looks.
2008-03-09 18:38 < mexicanbanana> Hmm.
2008-03-09 18:38 < mexicanbanana> Where did GameFAQs get their data from?
2008-03-09 18:38 < Zos> from FAQsGames
2008-03-09 18:39 < Schrodinger_Cat> mexicanbanana: User submissions, mainly.
2008-03-09 18:39 < mexicanbanana> Schrodinger_Cat: HOW did they get people to contribute? All projects I have had have failed miserably because nobody wanted to contribute.
2008-03-09 18:40 < NotACow> mexicanbanana: they collect them using industrial spies
2008-03-09 18:40 < mexicanbanana> I guess they were out early...
2008-03-09 18:40 < NotACow> mexicanbanana: i suspect they largely get the data from the publishers
2008-03-09 18:40 < mexicanbanana> How? By bulk-requesting CSV files?
2008-03-09 18:41 < mexicanbanana> I don't get how people can get access to data like that.
2008-03-09 18:41 < NotACow> mexicanbanana: the companies provide them with data, and their stsaffers clean it up
2008-03-09 18:41 < mexicanbanana> Hrm.
2008-03-09 18:41 < NotACow> haha
2008-03-09 18:41 < NotACow> i *love* garfield minus garfield
2008-03-09 18:42 < NotACow> http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/28399225
2008-03-09 18:43 < Snax> Who has been to a wikimania here
2008-03-09 18:43 < Messedrocker> bunka bo
2008-03-09 18:44 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: This is better: http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/28387480
2008-03-09 18:44 < Cyrius> Snax: you never said what you meant by your question
2008-03-09 18:44 < mexicanbanana> Looks very illegal.
2008-03-09 18:44 < mexicanbanana> Copyright infrigenemenemenmentenentent.
2008-03-09 18:45 < mexicanbanana> Why would they remove the main character anyway?
2008-03-09 18:45 < mexicanbanana> Garfield is funny.
2008-03-09 18:45 < Sanchom> that's awesome
2008-03-09 18:45 < Cyrius> no, he isn't
2008-03-09 18:45 < Sanchom> Garfield - Garfield that is
2008-03-09 18:45 < Cyrius> http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/27852240
2008-03-09 18:45 < Snax> your mom is not funny
2008-03-09 18:45 < Cyrius> I've met that guy online.
2008-03-09 18:46 < mexicanbanana> And where do I see the originals?
2008-03-09 18:46 < mexicanbanana> This is fucking stupid.
2008-03-09 18:46 < mexicanbanana> If we can't compare them to the originals.
2008-03-09 18:46 < mexicanbanana> To see what Garfield is doing and whatnot.
2008-03-09 18:47 < Cyrius> I liked the previous attempt where only garfield's "dialogue" was removed
2008-03-09 18:47 < Cyrius> so it was just a sad man talking to his cat
2008-03-09 18:47 < Schrodinger_Cat> mexicanbanana: The entire point is that *you* *don't* *care* *what* *Garfield* *is* *doing*. Jon Arbuckle's actions can stand perfectly well on their own.
2008-03-09 18:48 < Sanchom> this one's great: http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/27852240
2008-03-09 18:48 < Sanchom> without Garfield, it's like some strange existential thing now
2008-03-09 18:48 < Schrodinger_Cat> If Garfield's actions don't matter, then having access to the originals is a non-issue.
2008-03-09 18:48 < mexicanbanana> Schrodinger_Cat: No... it just becomes stupid without him. Pointless.
2008-03-09 18:48 < Messedrocker> wait, are these edited comics?
2008-03-09 18:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> mexicanbanana: Really? I rather think its surreal in a good way.
2008-03-09 18:49 < mexicanbanana> Even if this were funny, however, I would like to compare the modified versions with the originals.
2008-03-09 18:49 < Sanchom> it's just a different story than the story that's told when Garfield was in them
2008-03-09 18:49 < Cyrius> mexicanbanana is one of the people that actually thinks garfield is funny
2008-03-09 18:49 < Sanchom> They're not necessarily funny... now they're sort of accidentally revealing
2008-03-09 18:49 < Messedrocker> blasphemo!
2008-03-09 18:49 < mexicanbanana> He's a fat cat who likes lasagna.
2008-03-09 18:49 < mexicanbanana> How can that not be funny?
2008-03-09 18:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> Cyrius: Apparently so.
2008-03-09 18:49 < Messedrocker> mexicanbanana, that's nothing
2008-03-09 18:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> Sanchom: Its a sort of dadaist existential commentary on our world.
2008-03-09 18:49 < Cyrius> I loved garfield...when I was 10
2008-03-09 18:50 < Messedrocker> i'm a desk lamp who likes veal
2008-03-09 18:50 < Jonny88> Hi, I'm trying to get the article 'Naked Lunch' to GA status, would anybody take a look and leave some advice for me on the talk page please?
2008-03-09 18:50 < Schrodinger_Cat> This one is great: http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/26572762
2008-03-09 18:50 < Schrodinger_Cat> Naked... Lunch?
2008-03-09 18:50 < Cyrius> Schrodinger_Cat: I can empathize with that one
2008-03-09 18:50 < Cyrius> Schrodinger_Cat: crazy drug book/movie thing
2008-03-09 18:51 < Jonny88> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Lunch
2008-03-09 18:52 < Schrodinger_Cat> Jonny88: Second sentence of the first paragraph: "A second reading of the book is advisable for those who wish to better understand it, although Burroughs himself stated that the chapters could be read in any order." <-- The two ideas in this sentence don't have anything to do with one another.
2008-03-09 18:52 < mexicanbanana> And what is Garfield doing in that strip?
2008-03-09 18:52 < mexicanbanana> Just standing there, looking bored at John?
2008-03-09 18:52 < Schrodinger_Cat> mexicanbanana: No one cares.
2008-03-09 18:53 < mexicanbanana> Dancing around?
2008-03-09 18:53 < mexicanbanana> It's pointless to remove Garfield and claim you "created" something.
2008-03-09 18:53 < Schrodinger_Cat> mexicanbanana: The entire point of that strip is that Garfield is a boring character. We really ought to be looking at Jon.
2008-03-09 18:53 < mexicanbanana> It was never clear to me whether John could or could not actually understand Garfield.
2008-03-09 18:53 < Schrodinger_Cat> mexicanbanana: The person never claims to have "created" something. They just say that taking Garfield out of the strip makes the strip interesting in a whole new way.
2008-03-09 18:53 < mexicanbanana> It appears as if Garfield never speaks but rather thinks.
2008-03-09 18:54 < Schrodinger_Cat> mexicanbanana: If you ever watched the cartoons, its apparent that only other animals can understand Garfield.
2008-03-09 18:55 < Schrodinger_Cat> And that's why the cartoon still makes sense if you take Garfield out. Jon's dialogue is really only to himself, since he can't understand Garfield's responses.
2008-03-09 18:55 < mexicanbanana> I never liked the animated cartoons...
2008-03-09 18:55 < Sanchom> wow.. i was probably actually distracted from that element when reading the originals... trying to focus too much on what Garfield was doing
2008-03-09 18:56 < Schrodinger_Cat> And that's why Garfield Minus Garfield works. Taking Garfield out, makes it so that you're not thinking that Jon is talking to anyone, because, even in the original comic he's not.
2008-03-09 18:56 < Schrodinger_Cat> Making the fact that Jon is really talking to himself makes the strip a lot better.
2008-03-09 18:56 < Schrodinger_Cat> Making the fact clear, that is
2008-03-09 18:57 < Sanchom> so good. im happy I logged in here today
2008-03-09 18:58 < Sanchom> you're a cs guy?
2008-03-09 18:59 < Schrodinger_Cat> Who, me?
2008-03-09 19:01 < Sanchom> ya, i just saw your user page... so more of a comment than a question
2008-03-09 19:01 < Schrodinger_Cat> Yeah. I'm in CS
2008-03-09 19:01 < Sanchom> me too. I am trying to work on the mean-shift article
2008-03-09 19:01 < The359> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-emo-bath.jpg
2008-03-09 19:01 < Sanchom> just started the other day
2008-03-09 19:02 < Schrodinger_Cat> The359: I lol'd
2008-03-09 19:02 < Schrodinger_Cat> Sanchom: You just started university?
2008-03-09 19:02 < Sanchom> just started working on that article
2008-03-09 19:10 < geniice> any texans here?
2008-03-09 19:11 < The359> Which kind, the steers or queers?
2008-03-09 19:11 < geniice> ones who can phone the police
2008-03-09 19:11 < arrgy> the Houston football kind :D
2008-03-09 19:11 < The359> ...
2008-03-09 19:11 < Cyrius> um, it's a big state
2008-03-09 19:11 < The359> why?
2008-03-09 19:12 < geniice> stanadard probably hoax bob threat
2008-03-09 19:12 < geniice> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plano_Senior_High_School&diff=prev&oldid=197092461
2008-03-09 19:12 < geniice> bomb
2008-03-09 19:12 < The359> you really going to report that?
2008-03-09 19:13 < Cyrius> long distance call
2008-03-09 19:13 < Cyrius> actually, we might have free in state calling, I have no idea
2008-03-09 19:13 < The359> the same user left this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Plano_Senior_High_School&diff=prev&oldid=197092969
2008-03-09 19:13 < The359> Hardly sounds like a credible bomb threat
2008-03-09 19:14 < geniice> The359 it isn't but it doesn't matter
2008-03-09 19:14 < geniice> The359 1)posting that in itself is a crime
2008-03-09 19:15 < geniice> The359 2) it is useful if wikipedia has a reputation for contacting the polcie over this kind of thing since it reduces the chances of it happening in future
2008-03-09 19:16 < Cyrius> http://www.plano.gov/departments/police/
2008-03-09 19:16 < Schrodinger_Cat> geniice: On the other hand, if the school closes, then Wikipedia becomes one more venue for miscreants to spread chaos
2008-03-09 19:16 < geniice> Schrodinger_Cat they could have just phoned it in if they wanted that
2008-03-09 19:17 < geniice> Schrodinger_Cat> very few people like being yelled at by the police
2008-03-09 19:17 < The359> Since when has us attempting to deter people ever stopped them from doing it?
2008-03-09 19:17 < The359> And who is going to know we reported it besides...you?
2008-03-09 19:18 < geniice> The359 the person being yelled at for one
2008-03-09 19:18 < The359> ok, two
2008-03-09 19:19 < Schrodinger_Cat> geniice: The issue here is that the police may start taking a look as to why *you* phoned notified them of the threat.
2008-03-09 19:19 < geniice> Schrodinger_Cat haven't in past cases
2008-03-09 19:19 < geniice> there general form is along the limes of "at time X IP y posted a bomb threat at Z"
2008-03-09 19:20 * Kamping_Kaiser wonders if geniice is a proffesional bomb hoax dobber
2008-03-09 19:20 < geniice> Kamping_Kaiser I am not makeing a transatlantic phonecall
2008-03-09 19:22 < Schrodinger_Cat> Meh. I'm not doing it. I tried notifying police of a written bomb threat once, and damn near talked my way into an arrest.
2008-03-09 19:24 < geniice> yeah suicide threats are less problematical to deal with
2008-03-09 19:25 < Schrodinger_Cat> geniice: Suicide threats have a tendency not to be anonymous.
2008-03-09 19:25 < NotACow> sawing pine kicks up so much more dust than sawing hardwoods
2008-03-09 19:25 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: I've noticed that as well.
2008-03-09 19:25 < NotACow> i suspect i need a new filter in the vac
2008-03-09 19:25 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: Vacuuming sawdust?
2008-03-09 19:26 < geniice> NotACow> Filter? don't they have a cyclone version yet?
2008-03-09 19:26 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: i don't have a dust collection system, so i am using a shopvac for dust collection
2008-03-09 19:26 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: they do have cyclonic dust collectors, i just can't afford one
2008-03-09 19:26 < Schrodinger_Cat> geniice: Not everyone wants to pay $600 for a vacuum.
2008-03-09 19:26 < geniice> eh the cost of dyson clones was comeing down last I checked
2008-03-09 19:26 < NotACow> the shopvac hose fits nicely into the dust port of my table saw, but it's quite a bit short of what i really need
2008-03-09 19:27 < NotACow> geniice: meh, that's small fry compared ot what most serious woodworkers use
2008-03-09 19:27 < geniice> I cut and burn wood. I do not work it
2008-03-09 19:27 < NotACow> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=17094 <- typical small-shop dust collection
2008-03-09 19:28 < geniice> hmm dyson was originaly looking to make something like that back when he couldn't sell his idea to anyone
2008-03-09 19:28 < NotACow> the thing is, that's like more tham my table saw cost, and ten times what my shopvac cost
2008-03-09 19:28 < NotACow> well, ok, 8 times
2008-03-09 19:29 < NotACow> dust collection is definitely on the agenda, though
2008-03-09 19:29 < NotACow> right after i get a jointer and a bandsaw :)
2008-03-09 19:30 < geniice> too noisy
2008-03-09 19:30 < Mike_H> Does Splash come on IRC at all?
2008-03-09 19:34 < NotACow> Mike_H: i think he used to
2008-03-09 19:34 < NotACow> nick of splash_wp
2008-03-09 19:41 * NotACow thinks someone should reboot the english wikipedia community
2008-03-09 19:41 < TheWeasel> the only wikipedias that work are the ones without a community
2008-03-09 19:41 < NotACow> CRUISING BABY ALERT
2008-03-09 19:42 < fajro> mmm
2008-03-09 19:43 < Scream> nothing wrong with the community at large
2008-03-09 19:43 * Mike_H pets fajro
2008-03-09 19:43 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: How does one reboot a community? Revolution?
2008-03-09 19:43 < fajro> define wikipedia please
2008-03-09 19:44 < Schrodinger_Cat> fajro: A collection of nonsense, which somehow manages to make sense through sheer volume
2008-03-09 19:44 < fajro> Hi Mike_H
2008-03-09 19:44 < Mike_H> hi
2008-03-09 19:44 < TheWeasel> everything that has "wikipedia" as the crucial part of its url
2008-03-09 19:44 < fajro> STFU Dead cat!
2008-03-09 19:44 < Schrodinger_Cat> fajro: Its dead/alive, thanks.
2008-03-09 19:45 < fajro> The problem with wikipedia is the lack of a good definition
2008-03-09 19:45 < Schrodinger_Cat> fajro: Why is that a problem?
2008-03-09 19:45 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: delete everyone and start over!
2008-03-09 19:45 < fajro> is wikipedia an enciclopedia?
2008-03-09 19:45 < Schrodinger_Cat> Yes
2008-03-09 19:45 < TheWeasel> the problem is that the definition it does have lacks all realism.
2008-03-09 19:45 < NotACow> fajro: no, wikipedia is a massively multiplayer blog.
2008-03-09 19:45 < fajro> wikipedia says yes.... but that's not true
2008-03-09 19:46 < fajro> Depends on the definition of enciclopedia
2008-03-09 19:46 < NotACow> fajro: wikipedia contains information about everything except for the things that aren't worth having information about.
2008-03-09 19:46 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: Its not a blog though. Not enough definite point of view to make it one.
2008-03-09 19:46 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: that's a consequence of the massively multiplayer aspect.
2008-03-09 19:46 < fajro> Enciclopedia != information about everything except for the things that aren't worth having information about.
2008-03-09 19:47 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16070928/
2008-03-09 19:47 < kenlyric> since when do blogs need a definite point of view?
2008-03-09 19:47 < Ceiling_Cat> Impressive
2008-03-09 19:47 < Sanchom> what's your definition of an encylopedia then?
2008-03-09 19:47 < NotACow> my blog has no point of view
2008-03-09 19:47 < NotACow> it's just random inchoate mutterings
2008-03-09 19:47 < Ceiling_Cat> One guy had a Saab go a million miles
2008-03-09 19:47 < Schrodinger_Cat> fajro: If "information about everything that's worth having information about" is not the defintion of an encyclopedia, what is?
2008-03-09 19:47 < fajro> I use the definition from the spanish wikipedia
2008-03-09 19:47 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: meh, so?
2008-03-09 19:47 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: So Saab has finally caught up to Toyota in that regard?
2008-03-09 19:48 < Ceiling_Cat> How many cars hit a million miles?
2008-03-09 19:48 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: it depends on how far you throw them
2008-03-09 19:48 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: and if you measure from the point of view of the sun, all of them :)
2008-03-09 19:48 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: Probably not all that many. Going a million miles means that you've held onto your car for a *very* long time.
2008-03-09 19:48 < NotACow> Schrodinger_Cat: or driven it a whole fucking lot
2008-03-09 19:48 < Messedrocker> whoa
2008-03-09 19:48 < Messedrocker> pit's final smash is
2008-03-09 19:48 < Messedrocker> divine!
2008-03-09 19:49 < Sanchom> the New Oxford English Dictionary defines it as a set of books giving information on many subjects or on many aspects of one subject
2008-03-09 19:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> NotACow: It'd have to be a LOT to get a million miles in any reasonable length of time.
2008-03-09 19:49 < NotACow> i mean, a million miles at 60 miles an hour would take nearly two years of continuous driving.
2008-03-09 19:49 < Ceiling_Cat> Messedrocker - I *love* pitt
2008-03-09 19:49 < Messedrocker> Pit.
2008-03-09 19:49 < NotACow> VIPER
2008-03-09 19:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> SNAKE
2008-03-09 19:49 < Messedrocker> This will also be the first game he's in in 17 years
2008-03-09 19:49 < NotACow> MUSHROOM
2008-03-09 19:49 < Schrodinger_Cat> Badger?
2008-03-09 19:49 < Ceiling_Cat> I went to a midnight smash brawl party last night
2008-03-09 19:49 < Ceiling_Cat> it was quite fun
2008-03-09 19:49 < NotACow> BOBCAT
2008-03-09 19:50 < Ceiling_Cat> we unblocked Luigi, Marth, Ness, and Falco
2008-03-09 19:50 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: Is Brawl good?
2008-03-09 19:50 < Messedrocker> i haven't played super smash brothers since nintendo 64
2008-03-09 19:50 < Ceiling_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat - it
2008-03-09 19:50 < Ceiling_Cat> it's a lot of fun
2008-03-09 19:50 < Messedrocker> and when i played that i played as samus aran
2008-03-09 19:50 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ceiling_Cat: Does Sonic suck?
2008-03-09 19:50 < Messedrocker> so i will probably stick with her
2008-03-09 19:50 < Ceiling_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat - I don't know, most of the characters have to be unlocked
2008-03-09 19:50 < Ceiling_Cat> I didn't get to use him
2008-03-09 19:50 < Schrodinger_Cat> Ah. Ok.
2008-03-09 19:51 < fajro> Apparently the goal of the english Wikipedia comunity is: "The Sum Of All Human Knowledge"
2008-03-09 19:51 < NotACow> fajro: except for the parts that annoy jimmy wales or any of his special friends.
2008-03-09 19:51 < Schrodinger_Cat> fajro: And isn't that what an encyclopedia is supposed to be?
2008-03-09 19:51 < fajro> No!
2008-03-09 19:51 < Schrodinger_Cat> fajro: I recall that was the goal of the first encyclopedia.
2008-03-09 19:51 < NotACow> i'm not sure that human knowledge can be summed.
2008-03-09 19:52 * Messedrocker is watching a video of different final smashes
2008-03-09 19:53 < fajro> An enciclopedia should be a collection of useful/relevant/notable information
2008-03-09 19:53 < Schrodinger_Cat> fajro: Diderot and D'Alembert explicitly wanted to get a summary of all human knowledge for their Encylopedie, which was the first modern encyclopedia.
2008-03-09 19:53 < Schrodinger_Cat> fajro: Who are tyou to say what is useful or relevant.
2008-03-09 19:53 < Messedrocker> Luigi's final smash is apparently LSD
2008-03-09 19:54 * Schrodinger_Cat is off for dinner
2008-03-09 19:59 < justin___> hello
2008-03-09 20:00 < JustinMorris> anyone here?
2008-03-09 20:02 < bumm13> nope
2008-03-09 20:02 < Mike_H> no
2008-03-09 20:03 < Messedrocker> no
2008-03-09 20:05 < JustinMorris> awseme
2008-03-09 20:11 < ST47> ...
2008-03-09 20:11 < Snax> ..
2008-03-09 20:11 * ST47 hits Mike_H, bumm13, and Messedrocker
2008-03-09 20:12 < Messedrocker> HAI
2008-03-09 20:12 * Snax protects bumm13 and Mike_H
2008-03-09 20:13 < Mike_H> :(
2008-03-09 20:14 * Mike_H huggles Snax
2008-03-09 20:14 * Snax huggles back
2008-03-09 20:14 < Snax> i protected you two with a gay spell
2008-03-09 20:14 * Rinn|BRAWL final smashes Messedrocker
2008-03-09 20:14 < Mike_H> So, what, I get extra gay?
2008-03-09 20:15 < Rinn|BRAWL> Luigi's final is the coolest so far.
2008-03-09 20:18 < Warpath> O_O
2008-03-09 20:18 * Mike_H NP: James Taylor and J.D. Souther - Her Town Too (1981)
2008-03-09 20:19 < CalJohn> so, i just made my first non-spelling edit.
2008-03-09 20:20 < CalJohn> can someone check i did the right thing? http://tinyurl.com/3yccha
2008-03-09 20:21 < gwern> my anus is bleeding! CURSE MY BALLS A MILLION TIMES, JESUS!
2008-03-09 20:22 < Mike_H> gwern: Um, get a styptic pencil up there and stop talking to us about it :/
2008-03-09 20:22 * gwern felt my view public deserved to know
2008-03-09 20:22 < gwern> *viewing
2008-03-09 20:33 < TheWeasel> I'll go to bed.
2008-03-09 20:33 < TheWeasel> Night-o
2008-03-09 20:37 < Pilotguy> DEATH TO BED
2008-03-09 20:38 < gwern> put death to bed!
2008-03-09 20:44 < Hildanknight> Any experienced GA reviewers here?
2008-03-09 20:44 < Miranda|away> Hildanknight: yep
2008-03-09 20:44 < privatemusings> hello miranda! - you're not away.....
2008-03-09 20:44 < Miranda|away> lol
2008-03-09 20:44 < Miranda> had to get some stuff out of the car
2008-03-09 20:46 < Hildanknight> I know articles should not be on PR and FAC simultaneously. But is it OK to have articles on PR and GAC simultaneously? The backlog at GAN is huge and it would probably take at least a month for my GAN to be reviewed.
2008-03-09 20:46 < Hildanknight> *PR and GAN
2008-03-09 20:47 < Wizardman> I'd be fine with it, depending on the subject. What's the article about?
2008-03-09 20:59 < Hildanknight> A Singaporean film.
2008-03-09 20:59 < Hildanknight> Or rather, movie, as we call it here. :)
2008-03-09 21:03 * Mike_H NP: Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Around (Like a Record) (1985)
2008-03-09 21:06 < Xihix> you spin me round round baby
2008-03-09 21:06 < Xihix> ugh, meatspin :X
2008-03-09 21:08 < Mike_H> Xihix: blah
2008-03-09 21:09 < Messedrocker> coin bird
2008-03-09 21:09 < Messedrocker> angry for coins
2008-03-09 21:09 < Messedrocker> http://f0rked.com/flash/v=coinbird
2008-03-09 21:17 < quanticle> Xihix: Meatspin has ruined that song for me
2008-03-09 21:19 < quanticle> Messedrocker: That display of silliness beats Trogdor
2008-03-09 21:28 < quanticle> poot
2008-03-09 21:31 < Messedrocker> Yoshi's Story is unbearably cutesy
2008-03-09 21:31 < Messedrocker> it makes me nauseous
2008-03-09 21:32 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Brawl?
2008-03-09 21:32 < Messedrocker> no, Yoshi's Story
2008-03-09 21:32 < quanticle> Oh. Its an actual game?
2008-03-09 21:32 < Messedrocker> Yes.
2008-03-09 21:32 < Messedrocker> Hmm
2008-03-09 21:32 < Messedrocker> But its ending song is great!
2008-03-09 21:37 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-09 21:38 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat, I'm sorry Ceiling Cat didn't make it into SSBB
2008-03-09 21:39 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: No. No more cats.
2008-03-09 21:39 * quanticle pulls out his shotgun
2008-03-09 21:42 * FastLizard4|away stares at quanticle
2008-03-09 21:42 * Messedrocker wants there to be a new kid icarus title
2008-03-09 21:43 < FastLizard4|away> I expected the channel to be a whole lot emptier with Brawl out now
2008-03-09 21:43 * quanticle is not getting Brawl until Friday.
2008-03-09 21:43 < Messedrocker> i am getting it tomorrow
2008-03-09 21:43 < quanticle> I have tests this week.
2008-03-09 21:43 < quanticle> Next week, on the other hand, is spring break
2008-03-09 21:44 * FastLizard4|away dosen't have a Wii
2008-03-09 21:44 < Messedrocker> SUPA SMASH BRUZAZZIS
2008-03-09 21:44 * FastLizard4|away solely relies on his dependable PC
2008-03-09 21:44 < Messedrocker> PC gamers are too serious
2008-03-09 21:44 < quanticle> I have a Wii, but not very many games for it.
2008-03-09 21:45 * FastLizard4|away pulls out Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
2008-03-09 21:45 < quanticle> Messedrocker: Depends on the game.
2008-03-09 21:45 < quanticle> Messedrocker: WoW/Counterstrike - certainly too serious.
2008-03-09 21:46 < Looooooooong_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arctic_shrinkage&diff=196689983&oldid=196133578
2008-03-09 21:46 < Looooooooong_Cat> I grow depressed
2008-03-09 21:46 < Looooooooong_Cat> There is something about global warming related articles that seems to turn contributors... well, stupid
2008-03-09 21:46 < Messedrocker> gurbangly is responsible !!
2008-03-09 21:46 < Looooooooong_Cat> they post claims sourced to articles that contradict them
2008-03-09 21:47 < FastLizard4|away> United States Copyright Law can burn in Hell
2008-03-09 21:47 < quanticle> Looooooooong_Cat: Its the fundamental libertarian streak of the Internet. Global warming can only be solved with more government intervention, therefore it must not be an issue.
2008-03-09 21:47 < Messedrocker> PlayStation 3 fandom could burn in hell, if it existed!
2008-03-09 21:48 < Looooooooong_Cat> quanticle - no, the problem is it is a field rife with disinformation (a situation that has been intentionally created by moneyed interests with vested finicial interests in sowing doubt)
2008-03-09 21:48 < Looooooooong_Cat> coupled with the fact that most people don't understand the science, the people involved, or both
2008-03-09 21:49 < quanticle> Looooooooong_Cat: Well, there is that, but I'd also argue that the libertarianism that's so prevalent on the internet blinds people to issues that require government intervention to solve.
2008-03-09 21:49 < Ceiling_Cat> So the job of keeping our GW articles in good order falls onto the shoulders of a few people (WMC, RA, Stephen Schultz, and myself, among others)
2008-03-09 21:49 < Messedrocker> you forget Science Apologist
2008-03-09 21:49 < Ceiling_Cat> we also have our resident global warming deniers - Oren0, RonCram, Uber, Britannia/Rameses, etc
2008-03-09 21:49 < Ceiling_Cat> (I'd like to see the lot of them banned, personally)
2008-03-09 21:51 < Ceiling_Cat> (Other deniers: BlueTie, Childhoodsend)
2008-03-09 21:51 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Could you get them classified as trolls?
2008-03-09 21:52 < Ceiling_Cat> Some, I have
2008-03-09 21:52 < Ceiling_Cat> the saving grace is that the RFA system will effectively prevent any of them from ever becoming admins
2008-03-09 21:53 < Ceiling_Cat> Britannia and Rameses were socks of each otehr
2008-03-09 21:53 < Lubaf> PK CHU!
2008-03-09 21:53 < Ceiling_Cat> RA thought they might be socks, had me run a check
2008-03-09 21:53 < Ceiling_Cat> after I caught them, they tried to claim they were husband and wife
2008-03-09 21:53 < bumm13> lol
2008-03-09 21:53 < quanticle|away> Relatedly, are any admins that are Evolution deniers?
2008-03-09 21:54 < Ceiling_Cat> I was very proud of my response:
2008-03-09 21:54 < bumm13> quanticle: our admins tend to not push POV agendas
2008-03-09 21:54 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rameses&diff=142456154&oldid=141885069
2008-03-09 21:54 < Lubaf> I'm a NPOV pusher.
2008-03-09 21:54 < privatemusings> g'day cats.....
2008-03-09 21:54 < Lubaf> Although I'm no admin.
2008-03-09 21:54 < bumm13> most users that do aren't interested in adminship anyway, I reckon
2008-03-09 21:54 * Ceiling_Cat watches privatemusings from above
2008-03-09 21:54 < Lubaf> And I'm lying.
2008-03-09 21:55 < Ceiling_Cat> Then allow me to help clarify the situation for you - we don't believe you. Your claim that your "wife" is also editing on exactly the same topic from the same IP as you is self-serving and not credible. Not to mention that it's been tried before. We will be treating you as known sockpuppet accounts. [[User:Raul654|Raul654]] 13:43, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
2008-03-09 21:55 * Lubaf shoves his hand up Ceiling_Cat's bottom, in an attempt to meatpuppet him.
2008-03-09 21:55 < Ceiling_Cat> Oh noes! Not a Jim Henson!
2008-03-09 21:56 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jim+henson
2008-03-09 21:56 * privatemusings blinks at the awesome visage of ceiling cat above....
2008-03-09 21:57 < pengo> i extended the {{copyedit}} template
2008-03-09 21:57 < pengo> so you could be more specific with it
2008-03-09 21:57 < Ceiling_Cat> did you add any cat-related content to it?
2008-03-09 21:58 * Ceiling_Cat suggests an obligatory picture like this: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Cat_Eyes.jpg
2008-03-09 21:58 < pengo> e.g. "This article or section needs copy editing for cohesion." instead of "for grammar, style, cohesion, tone or spelling"
2008-03-09 21:59 < pengo> i tried to apply it to some articles that use the tag.. but i can't work out what any of them need copyediting for