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2008-03-07 17:36 < ggreer> sql is a terrible terrible way to get and set data
2008-03-07 17:37 < cctoide> DROP TRUCK 'users';
2008-03-07 17:37 < cctoide> FLUSH TUBES;
2008-03-07 17:37 < Demi> Gracenotes - no, it definitely wasn't a stack
2008-03-07 17:37 < Demi> or a list, or a queue, or a heap
2008-03-07 17:37 < Gracenotes> Demi: hm. how did it work?
2008-03-07 17:37 < Demi> Gracenotes - it basically didn't
2008-03-07 17:37 < noclip> cctoide: ERROR! Tubes are clogged!
2008-03-07 17:37 < Gracenotes> oh. I see :)
2008-03-07 17:38 < Demi> search around for some shit linearly, find something related, then navigate n-linked structures and cross your fingers
2008-03-07 17:38 < Gracenotes> to be used heuristically?
2008-03-07 17:38 < Demi> yeah
2008-03-07 17:38 < cctoide> UPDATE TRUCK 'users' SET torque = 2280;
2008-03-07 17:38 < cctoide> etc.
2008-03-07 17:39 < cctoide> admittedly it's kind of hard to mesh his soundbites with SQL syntax
2008-03-07 17:39 < Demi> BEGIN send_internet("Staff"); END;
2008-03-07 17:39 < TheWeasel> Wow.
2008-03-07 17:39 < ggreer> cctoide: that's a lot. the fastest thing I own has maybe 20 foot-pounds of torque :/
2008-03-07 17:39 < noclip> instead of having an "email" column in your users table, you could have an "internet" one
2008-03-07 17:39 < TheWeasel> The ICD is a hypochondriac's paradise.
2008-03-07 17:40 < noclip> seeing as how ted thinks they're the same thing
2008-03-07 17:40 < Demi> TheWeasel - yeah, that's some good stuff
2008-03-07 17:41 < noclip> here's an idea
2008-03-07 17:41 < noclip> for april 1st, rewrite the entire [[Internet]] article to correspond to ted stevens' view
2008-03-07 17:41 < noclip> really flesh out the ideas
2008-03-07 17:41 < scorchsaber> noclip: Are you talking about vandalizing wikipedia on its official channel?
2008-03-07 17:41 < Demi> the [[Internet]] is a series of tubes as well as a message sent to correspondents....
2008-03-07 17:41 < noclip> describe how there are different kinds of trucks, etc.
2008-03-07 17:41 < Gracenotes> Uncyclopedia probably already did that
2008-03-07 17:42 < Gracenotes> albeit poorly
2008-03-07 17:42 < noclip> you know
2008-03-07 17:42 < noclip> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Sparta
2008-03-07 17:42 < noclip> dumbest thing ever
2008-03-07 17:42 < Demi> The [[Internet]] is not a big truck.
2008-03-07 17:42 < noclip> but i couldn't stop laughing
2008-03-07 17:42 < Demi> The [[Internet2]] is a big truck.
2008-03-07 17:43 < cctoide> Full of universities.
2008-03-07 17:43 < Gracenotes> yep. http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Internet <-- "The Internet is a complex system made of, but not limited to, serieses of tubes , telegraph wires, pony expresses, hobo signs, tortise shells, and smoke signals." <-- fail =[
2008-03-07 17:43 < noclip> actually, "internet2" is being used pretty much exclusively for file sharing
2008-03-07 17:43 < noclip> which is pretty amusing
2008-03-07 17:44 < ggreer> noclip: there's not much of a difference now, besides IPv6
2008-03-07 17:44 < ggreer> most internet backbones are 10Gbit or higher
2008-03-07 17:44 < ggreer> just like internet2
2008-03-07 17:44 < Gracenotes> series of tubes might be implemented as a reasonable data structure
2008-03-07 17:44 < noclip> even that's going to have to expand for fancy stuff like hd streaming to tens of thousands of people
2008-03-07 17:45 < noclip> just take like 50 fiber optic cables and trunk them across the country
2008-03-07 17:45 < Demi> put the cables in a truck
2008-03-07 17:46 < noclip> problem solved, for only several hundred billion dollars
2008-03-07 17:46 < Demi> you can't beat the bandwidth of a truck full of tapes
2008-03-07 17:46 < Gracenotes> a protein would be a good data structure, actually. Linked nodes (peptide bridges), disulfide bridges, etc.
2008-03-07 17:46 < ggreer> also TCP would need to be revamped, since it takes forever to ramp up at the start of a connetion
2008-03-07 17:46 < ggreer> *connection
2008-03-07 17:46 < noclip> you know
2008-03-07 17:46 < noclip> you could envision using plumbing to transmit data
2008-03-07 17:47 < noclip> different water pressures could represent 1s and 0s
2008-03-07 17:47 < M1rth> was I bumped for some reason?
2008-03-07 17:47 < Gracenotes> noclip: mm, that might be a better case for analog
2008-03-07 17:47 * M1rth envisions a system using flatulence to transmit data...
2008-03-07 17:48 < Gracenotes> noclip: you could also use carrier pigeons to transmit data
2008-03-07 17:48 < noclip> Gracenotes: it was actually done a couple times
2008-03-07 17:48 < ggreer> noclip: http://www.blikstein.com/paulo/projects/project_water.html
2008-03-07 17:48 < Gracenotes> I know. (following the RFC, of course)
2008-03-07 17:49 < Gracenotes> concerns existed about TTL, of course, and the low reliability of packets
2008-03-07 17:49 < noclip> i'm still holding out for "ip over this guy i know"
2008-03-07 17:50 < noclip> "hey man, SYN"
2008-03-07 17:50 < twist> what??
2008-03-07 17:51 < Gracenotes> noclip: awesome. ACK, dude.
2008-03-07 17:51 < noclip> damn, timed out
2008-03-07 17:51 < noclip> blasphemy!
2008-03-07 17:52 < Gracenotes> unless it's SYN-ACK >.>
2008-03-07 17:52 < noclip> yeah
2008-03-07 17:52 < Gracenotes> ah, okay. Haven't used TCP recently.
2008-03-07 17:53 < Gracenotes> I'm sure someone has done an experiment like that before.
2008-03-07 17:53 < noclip> the packet loss would have had to be horrible
2008-03-07 17:53 < noclip> you'd need some very robust error correction
2008-03-07 18:00 < twist> Today's Wikif4gq0t listing (See ya tomarrow):
2008-03-07 18:00 < twist> jesse Olipro bishonen JohnReaves twist M1rth AfterDeath Demi the_giver White_Cat_Zzz aldkjalfkdja noclip Daniel_Bush iojkl Bennity NastyAccident Mafores Star-D spuin jackster ztcptxm1bx Haley Gracenotes Jonjonbt kibble dungodung Doc_glasgow cremepuff222 Stormscape compwhizii Dutchers Faroframkallande Lubaf VegaDark A_TOKINA Tony_Sidaway Arria Sfan00 SarahEmm Asclepias GDonato Aqwis Arwen OverlordQ Spartaz morwen arejay nyrbe The359
2008-03-07 18:00 < twist> Qst Crimedog jimius Warpath ggreer nenolod Reedy_Boy Cobi cctoide bah Ceiling_Cat Rinn brick_ijigg Mike_H Colorshade__ DerHexer|absens Ziron Morlark| Pthag__ Gunirus Scream NotASpy jpatrick eth01 rainman-sr Sir48 Mbimmler pinkxels TerminX lymeca_ Krator VRAG- alicekey Texou braskd_ njan jms1989 mavhc Luigi30 AzaTht shazza Platonides PeanutHorst peh wahrheit TheWeasel Casull Jacek_Kendysz lucasbfr_away Kwitschibo uberpenguin sargun_screen
2008-03-07 18:00 < twist> sb` Painey Pilotguy Huntster1138 MooingLemur kies REDLiNE Starnestommy STalKer-X fajro Paracropolis toxygen PhilKC jerkface03 gwern Illarane pichu0102_ Zarggg lekro JigmeDatse Wegge nalioth Bovlb RichiH Wafulz ShaunES _sj_ zn3t IceKarma Cyde monokrome ceil420 snail zvook Kex_ webs Bungle LiraNuna minerale Ningyou wimt trousers aimaz te planetd_ powerdan Kvant ggreer` digwuren Thx epsi sam Michael_B thedj jaydeearm Simon- HardDisk_WP
2008-03-07 18:00 < Stormscape> bitch
2008-03-07 18:00 < Cobi> !op
2008-03-07 18:00 < Miloo> flood
2008-03-07 18:00 < Sfan00> Erm ops
2008-03-07 18:00 < kibble> er, left
2008-03-07 18:00 < Warpath> >:(
2008-03-07 18:00 < Gunirus> f*** off
2008-03-07 18:00 < Gracenotes> lol
2008-03-07 18:00 < aldkjalfkdja> mass ping
2008-03-07 18:00 < cctoide> prepare for activity surge!
2008-03-07 18:00 < kibble> he left
2008-03-07 18:00 < aldkjalfkdja> >_<
2008-03-07 18:00 < Pilotguy> ...
2008-03-07 18:00 < Stormscape> wtf
2008-03-07 18:00 < Reedy_Boy> lolol
2008-03-07 18:00 < Stormscape> what a douche
2008-03-07 18:00 < Warpath> :|
2008-03-07 18:00 < Gracenotes> hello, all
2008-03-07 18:00 < aldkjalfkdja> >:[
2008-03-07 18:00 < tty1> lol
2008-03-07 18:00 < Stormscape> everybody message him
2008-03-07 18:00 < tty1> omg im popular!
2008-03-07 18:00 < compwhizii> lol
2008-03-07 18:00 < Sfan00> Can we set a ban?
2008-03-07 18:00 < Reedy_Boy> he gone
2008-03-07 18:00 < Golbez> no, don't.
2008-03-07 18:00 < REDLiNE> SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
2008-03-07 18:00 < Stormscape> wow he already d/c'ed
2008-03-07 18:00 < cctoide> and the resulting flood of annoyed users
2008-03-07 18:00 < Pilotguy> Sfan00- go away.
2008-03-07 18:00 < kibble> er, I was going ot set a ban.
2008-03-07 18:01 < Warpath> XD
2008-03-07 18:01 < RichiH> i think you are giving that bloke way more effect than he deserves :)
2008-03-07 18:01 < wimt> Sfan00, he's been banned from the network
2008-03-07 18:01 < kibble> k
2008-03-07 18:01 < Gracenotes> several times :)
2008-03-07 18:01 < Qst> What was twist doing?
2008-03-07 18:01 < aldkjalfkdja> twist (n=twist@86.96.226.15) has left #wikipedia (requested by tomaw)
2008-03-07 18:01 < Sfan00> Pilotguy: I didn't call for ops that time
2008-03-07 18:01 < aldkjalfkdja> ban hammah
2008-03-07 18:01 < Warpath> wow I'm lagging O_o
2008-03-07 18:01 * Bennity lol'd
2008-03-07 18:01 < OldakQuill> Why would it be fun to do that unless you can see the aftermath?
2008-03-07 18:01 < Stormscape> tha banhamma cometh
2008-03-07 18:01 < Pilotguy> :O
2008-03-07 18:01 < Colorshade__> Uh?
2008-03-07 18:01 < cctoide> I wonder what a wikif4gqot is
2008-03-07 18:01 < Stormscape> cctoide: apparantly us
2008-03-07 18:01 * kibble op'ed up to remove the +mi that globez put in effect ;-)
2008-03-07 18:01 * Pilotguy huggles Sfan00
2008-03-07 18:01 < cctoide> sounds like a Linksys router model
2008-03-07 18:01 < fajro> ¿Qué fue todo eso?
2008-03-07 18:01 < Beto29> hola
2008-03-07 18:01 * Pilotguy sets Golbez on fire
2008-03-07 18:01 < fajro> Hola Beto29
2008-03-07 18:01 < Stormscape> yo soy taco bell
2008-03-07 18:01 < Demi> i think "globez" is superior to "golbez"
2008-03-07 18:01 < Pilotguy> fajro- hi
2008-03-07 18:01 < Sfan00> However rang the bell it wasn't me
2008-03-07 18:02 < fajro> hola Pilotguy
2008-03-07 18:02 < Gracenotes> Stormscape: don't be silly
2008-03-07 18:02 < drini> hola
2008-03-07 18:02 < Beto29> que tal, fajro ?
2008-03-07 18:02 < Pilotguy> YO QUIERO TACO BELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2008-03-07 18:02 < Bennity> kibble: Are you trying to prove you are not useless or something?
2008-03-07 18:02 < jesse> OldakQuill: exactly
2008-03-07 18:02 < fajro> Bien... viste como inundaron el canal recién?
2008-03-07 18:02 < kibble> Bennity: :-|
2008-03-07 18:02 < Sfan00> cctoide: Read it a 1337 (Leet) ....
2008-03-07 18:02 < Sfan00> *as
2008-03-07 18:02 < Miloo> hola fajro
2008-03-07 18:02 < Miloo> que lindo america
2008-03-07 18:02 < Beto29> fajro: cual?
2008-03-07 18:02 < fajro> Hola Miloo!! xDD
2008-03-07 18:03 < Pilotguy> fajro- My rectal canal is operating just fine :)
2008-03-07 18:03 < Warpath> O_O
2008-03-07 18:03 < fajro> ah.. no... entraste después del flood :-P
2008-03-07 18:03 * Sfan00 wishes he understood spanish
2008-03-07 18:03 < Miloo> si, via algo de ese tal flood
2008-03-07 18:03 < Pilotguy> whee
2008-03-07 18:03 < Miloo> estupidos gringos
2008-03-07 18:03 < Miloo> sorry
2008-03-07 18:03 < Miloo> XD
2008-03-07 18:04 < fajro> Miloo!
2008-03-07 18:04 < fajro> :-P
2008-03-07 18:04 < fajro> Hola Racso!
2008-03-07 18:04 < Miguel> hmmm..
2008-03-07 18:04 < Sfan00> Miloo: To be fair , some English as Second Languge speak better English than some native speakers in the UK :(
2008-03-07 18:04 < Racso> Saluton!
2008-03-07 18:04 < bumm13> gft-=
2008-03-07 18:04 < Pilotguy> I like how people talk only when they get pinged
2008-03-07 18:04 < Miloo> is okey Sfan00
2008-03-07 18:04 < fajro> Saluton Racso!
2008-03-07 18:05 < fajro> Kiel vi fartas?
2008-03-07 18:05 < Racso> fajro: al fin qué? Español o esperanto ¬¬
2008-03-07 18:05 < Racso> fajro: bone
2008-03-07 18:05 < fajro> Racso: Cxu cxio bone cxe vi?
2008-03-07 18:05 < bumm13> (darn cat :P )
2008-03-07 18:05 < Racso> Jes
2008-03-07 18:05 < fajro> Mi povas paroli ambaux
2008-03-07 18:05 < Miloo> guten morguen
2008-03-07 18:05 < Racso> Mi ne povas XD
2008-03-07 18:05 < Racso> Mi ne povas paroli esperanton
2008-03-07 18:05 < fajro> bueno.. entonces hablemos español
2008-03-07 18:05 < Sfan00> Sotackawu suunmeidsi awu
2008-03-07 18:06 < Racso> fajro: XD
2008-03-07 18:06 < JohnReaves> Accroches-toi a ton reve
2008-03-07 18:06 < Miguel> fajro: secundo la moción
2008-03-07 18:06 < JohnReaves> Quand tu vois ton bateau partir
2008-03-07 18:06 < fajro> All of you should learn Esperanto!
2008-03-07 18:06 < fajro> xD
2008-03-07 18:06 * bumm13 slaps fajro around a bit with a large trout
2008-03-07 18:06 < Miloo> 你好
2008-03-07 18:07 < Gambit> hey bummer :DDD
2008-03-07 18:07 < Racso> XDS
2008-03-07 18:07 < ggreer> fajro: what's the point? everyone worth talking to already knows english
2008-03-07 18:07 < Demi> i think you mean "salmoviskat" bumm13
2008-03-07 18:07 < Sfan00> BTW My grreeting above is Sigsumeidsi
2008-03-07 18:07 * Pilotguy humps White_Cat
2008-03-07 18:07 < Sfan00> (which to most people sounds completly alien)
2008-03-07 18:07 < bumm13> hiya Gambit
2008-03-07 18:07 < fajro> Esperanto is better ggreer
2008-03-07 18:08 < M1rth> Is JzG on?
2008-03-07 18:08 < Racso> ggreer: maybe, but not everyone who knows english is someone worth talking to :P
2008-03-07 18:08 < Racso> Esperanto can be used as a filter
2008-03-07 18:08 < Miloo> الولايات المتحدة ينطبOsama lived!
2008-03-07 18:08 < M1rth> I apparently have now been blocked under a misreading of a diff. He claims I attacked Alison, I did no such thing.
2008-03-07 18:08 * Pilotguy huggles ggreer
2008-03-07 18:09 < JohnReaves> M1rth:Are you Truthnlove?
2008-03-07 18:09 < M1rth> No John... M1rth, same as here.
2008-03-07 18:09 < M1rth> JzG read http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAlison&diff=196635218&oldid=196634782
2008-03-07 18:10 < Tony_Sidaway> Why does that idiot keep doing it? Is it just to ping everybody?
2008-03-07 18:10 < M1rth> and believed it was directed towards Alison (if you read the whole page it CLEARLY is a response to SirFozzie who misread a history and had his timeline completely out of whack)
2008-03-07 18:10 < Pilotguy> M1rth- You know too much about Wikipedia.
2008-03-07 18:10 < Pilotguy> M1rth- Go away.
2008-03-07 18:10 < GDonato> Tony_Sidaway: yes, i believe they call them "trolls" in the business
2008-03-07 18:11 < JohnReaves> M1rth:I doubt anyone cares about your block here, just use {{unblock}}
2008-03-07 18:11 < M1rth> JohnReaves, is there another channel I should speak to someone on?
2008-03-07 18:11 < JohnReaves> Do it on-wiki
2008-03-07 18:12 < Miloo> Pues ahorita me voy, saludos desde America, (salutes from America, no latin america)
2008-03-07 18:12 < JohnReaves> or e-mail unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org
2008-03-07 18:12 < M1rth> I'd prefer to speak with JzG directly
2008-03-07 18:12 < Pilotguy> E-mail him
2008-03-07 18:12 < Aqwis> JzG?
2008-03-07 18:12 < Aqwis> jesus
2008-03-07 18:12 < bumm13> GDonato: it's not actually trolling when someone crapfloods
2008-03-07 18:13 < Pilotguy> Or go to #wikipedia-en-unblock
2008-03-07 18:13 < Demi> that's what we used to call spamming
2008-03-07 18:13 < JohnReaves> no, just e-mail him
2008-03-07 18:13 < Demi> but now we call something else spamming
2008-03-07 18:14 < GDonato> troll: "A person who posts to a newsgroup, bulletin board, etc., in a way intended to anger other posters and to cause drama, or otherwise disrupt the group's intended purpose."
2008-03-07 18:14 * GDonato shrugs
2008-03-07 18:15 < Demi> yes, trolling used to refer to something else, too
2008-03-07 18:15 < Demi> you young internetters and your changing usages
2008-03-07 18:15 < The359> Coke used to cost a nickel!
2008-03-07 18:15 < The359> Get off my virtual lawn!
2008-03-07 18:15 < Demi> the important thing was i was wearing on onion on my belt, which was the style at the time...
2008-03-07 18:15 < Sfan00> It probably now costs less... :(
2008-03-07 18:15 < M1rth> There appears to be no-one in that channel.
2008-03-07 18:16 < JohnReaves> M1rth:e-mail him
2008-03-07 18:17 < jerkface03> herro ^_^
2008-03-07 18:18 < JohnReaves> hai
2008-03-07 18:18 < jerkface03> i'm writing a persuasive essay for one of my douchebag liberal arts classes on pro-wikipedia
2008-03-07 18:18 < jerkface03> i'm looking for sources of anti-wikipedia eliteism
2008-03-07 18:18 < jerkface03> or elitism even
2008-03-07 18:18 < AppleBoy> I just took a 2.5 hour nap
2008-03-07 18:18 < jerkface03> don't know the correct spelling
2008-03-07 18:18 < AppleBoy> damn that felt good
2008-03-07 18:18 < bumm13> jerkface03: nobody's interested
2008-03-07 18:19 < jerkface03> bumm13: negatory on that good buddy.
2008-03-07 18:19 < jerkface03> bumm13: i have to do it for class
2008-03-07 18:19 < bumm13> that's nice....
2008-03-07 18:19 < The359> So do your homework
2008-03-07 18:19 < jerkface03> therefore somebody IS interested
2008-03-07 18:19 < JohnReaves> yey, semantics
2008-03-07 18:20 < The359> They invented Google for a reason
2008-03-07 18:20 < Pilotguy> jerkface03- Wait, you're writing about how much Wikipedia sucks?
2008-03-07 18:20 < jerkface03> The359: you don't have any sources, so you act like a dick. nice.
2008-03-07 18:20 < The359> Possibly to find what you look for
2008-03-07 18:20 < Aqwis> jerkface03, try wikipedia review
2008-03-07 18:20 < Pilotguy> ok thwn
2008-03-07 18:20 < Demi> i want to take a nap
2008-03-07 18:20 * The359 tranquilizes Demi
2008-03-07 18:20 * Pilotguy sets JohnReaves' hair on fire
2008-03-07 18:21 * Demi snores, now no one can sleep
2008-03-07 18:21 < JohnReaves> Pilotguy:Sorry one click is hard to resist
2008-03-07 18:21 < Pilotguy> o i c
2008-03-07 18:21 < JohnReaves> chanserv.py
2008-03-07 18:21 < Gambit> O_O
2008-03-07 18:27 < Lubaf> Oh God.
2008-03-07 18:27 < Lubaf> The campaign will go on for seven more weeks.
2008-03-07 18:27 < Pilotguy> !god
2008-03-07 18:27 < Lubaf> This is going to be very annoying.
2008-03-07 18:27 < Demi> Pilotguy - tell me if that works
2008-03-07 18:27 < Lubaf> Very very annoying.
2008-03-07 18:28 < Diety> It doesn't.
2008-03-07 18:28 < Pilotguy> ./whois God
2008-03-07 18:28 < Lubaf> Pilotguy: "User god, (n=xanny@75.126.239.62) ``Unknown'' (here), member of *, is connected to <irc://irc.freenode.net/>, 0 hop(s)."
2008-03-07 18:29 < JohnReaves> God is JohnReaves <<<ONLINE>>>
2008-03-07 18:29 < Lubaf> JohnReaves: Let me guess, you don't have a God complex, God has a you complex?
2008-03-07 18:30 < JohnReaves> God has a Bill Braskey complex, I'm not involved
2008-03-07 18:38 < East_Coast_Girl> goo?
2008-03-07 18:38 * Doc_glasgow wonders is blasphemy is a blockable offence
2008-03-07 18:38 < Messedrocker> no Doc_glasgow
2008-03-07 18:39 < Messedrocker> but taunting a person's religion is
2008-03-07 18:40 < Doc_glasgow> so I better not change my nick to "Picture_Muhammad"
2008-03-07 18:41 < Gambit> O_O
2008-03-07 18:42 < Sgt_johnson> o_O
2008-03-07 18:42 < Gambit> God is a #defocus user :P
2008-03-07 18:42 < Sgt_johnson> ROFL
2008-03-07 18:47 * Doc_glasgow calls out "Gouranga"
2008-03-07 18:48 < Doc_glasgow> I got accused of religious intolerance for dissing Scientology
2008-03-07 18:48 < Sgt_johnson> O_o
2008-03-07 18:48 < Messedrocker> it depends on how you dissed it
2008-03-07 18:48 < Messedrocker> or if you even dissed it at all
2008-03-07 18:48 < Messedrocker> people get hurt by the truth
2008-03-07 18:49 < Messedrocker> "the church of scientology engaged in IRS infiltration"
2008-03-07 18:49 < Messedrocker> "BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE CHURCH AND ITS HUBBARD!"
2008-03-07 18:50 < Lubaf> Meh.
2008-03-07 18:50 < Lubaf> Scientology is one of those subjects that rational conversation quickly becomes tricky around.
2008-03-07 18:50 < Lubaf> Along with Briantology, of course.
2008-03-07 18:51 < Golbez> god researching some of this stuff makes my brain melt
2008-03-07 18:51 < Gambit> bah Cruisecology sounded better :P
2008-03-07 18:51 * Demi founds scientificology
2008-03-07 18:51 < Lubaf> Scientism?
2008-03-07 18:52 < Lubaf> Sciencetism?
2008-03-07 18:52 < Lubaf> Sciencism?
2008-03-07 18:52 < Lubaf> Murderology?
2008-03-07 18:52 < Lubaf> Clitoris?
2008-03-07 18:52 < Messedrocker> i have mail-order degrees in murderology AND murderonomy
2008-03-07 18:52 < Lubaf> Eraadislitch?
2008-03-07 18:53 < Lubaf> Messedrocker: How about Clitoris? You got a degree in that?
2008-03-07 18:53 < Messedrocker> I didn't know you needed a degree to interface with the clitoris.
2008-03-07 18:55 < Golbez> so here's my question
2008-03-07 18:56 < Golbez> I need to find information on Amendment 48 to the Idaho Constitution
2008-03-07 18:56 < Golbez> Proposed 1943, S.L. page 380, S.J.R. 1; ratified November 7, 1944.
2008-03-07 18:56 < Messedrocker> i say idaho
2008-03-07 18:56 < Messedrocker> you say youdaho
2008-03-07 18:56 < Golbez> Any idea how I find this? :(
2008-03-07 18:56 < Demi> i'm not driving there, if that's what you're asking, golbez
2008-03-07 18:56 < Demi> or should i say... GLOBEZ!
2008-03-07 18:56 < Golbez> globez~
2008-03-07 18:57 < Golbez> Any ideas? :(
2008-03-07 18:57 < Demi> interlibrary loan from a university in idaho?
2008-03-07 18:58 < Golbez> loan of what?
2008-03-07 18:58 < Golbez> i guess of the legislative record of 1943?
2008-03-07 18:58 < Demi> you'll have a hard time finding someone to help you. you need to find someone living in idaho. who can read. good luck.
2008-03-07 18:58 < Golbez> all to find out what the bloody governor terms were before 1946? :(
2008-03-07 18:58 < Demi> do you know what these publications are (S.L.? S.J.R.?)
2008-03-07 18:59 * Messedrocker knows what F.Y.R. is
2008-03-07 18:59 < Golbez> SJR = Senate Joint Resolution
2008-03-07 18:59 < Golbez> I don't know what SL is
2008-03-07 18:59 < Demi> it seems like someone would have annotated copy of the state constitution
2008-03-07 18:59 * Messedrocker is thinking of the rastafarian who called for a JOINT session
2008-03-07 19:00 < Golbez> you'd think
2008-03-07 19:00 < Messedrocker> yes, I would think.
2008-03-07 19:00 < Messedrocker> Note that I am using the conditional tense.
2008-03-07 19:01 < Demi> Golbez - ask a reference librarian, they might have some ideas
2008-03-07 19:01 * Golbez sighs
2008-03-07 19:02 < Demi> Golbez - write to Steve Walker, State Archivist for Idaho
2008-03-07 19:02 < Demi> http://www.statearchivists.org/statearchivists.htm
2008-03-07 19:02 < Demi> even gots email addy
2008-03-07 19:02 < Golbez> thanks
2008-03-07 19:03 < Demi> you just know people like that are going to be thrilled with anyone being even tangentially interested in their subject matter
2008-03-07 19:03 < Golbez> oh oh wait
2008-03-07 19:03 < Golbez> we might have something here
2008-03-07 19:03 < Golbez> buried on the secy of state's site
2008-03-07 19:03 < Golbez> ...
2008-03-07 19:03 * Golbez stabby
2008-03-07 19:03 < Golbez> SJR 1 Art. 4, Sec. 1 Four year terms for state officers
2008-03-07 19:03 < Golbez> and uh. What... what was it BEFORE? :(
2008-03-07 19:04 < Demi> it's four years now
2008-03-07 19:04 < Golbez> Right.
2008-03-07 19:04 < Golbez> I want to know what it was before it was 4 years. :(
2008-03-07 19:04 < Golbez> I'm guessing 2 years but I need a source for this augh
2008-03-07 19:04 < Demi> was idaho even a state?
2008-03-07 19:04 < Golbez> That was in 1944. =p
2008-03-07 19:04 < Demi> is it a state now?
2008-03-07 19:04 < Golbez> I think it's an elaborate trick to screw with me.
2008-03-07 19:04 < Demi> yep
2008-03-07 19:04 < Demi> i actually knew you were going to look this up and i removed all traces of it from the internet
2008-03-07 19:05 < Messedrocker> September 1993 is Eternal September, yeS?
2008-03-07 19:05 < Golbez> yes
2008-03-07 19:05 < Golbez> k so screw the amendment
2008-03-07 19:06 * Messedrocker believes Wikipedia is Eternal December 2005
2008-03-07 19:06 < Golbez> now i want to find a pre-1944 copy of the constitution to read
2008-03-07 19:06 * Golbez stabby
2008-03-07 19:06 < Golbez> december 2005, was that when the Siegenthaler thing hit?
2008-03-07 19:06 < Demi> no no, he shot JFK in '63
2008-03-07 19:06 < Demi> you're way off
2008-03-07 19:06 < Messedrocker> yes Golbez
2008-03-07 19:06 < Golbez> lol
2008-03-07 19:06 < Messedrocker> i was involved pre-seigenthlaer
2008-03-07 19:07 < Messedrocker> and wikipedia exploded in popularity in december 2005
2008-03-07 19:07 < drini> my first wikipedia edit was aboou 1225 days ago
2008-03-07 19:08 * Messedrocker is writing an article about the change of the wikimedia foundation
2008-03-07 19:08 < Golbez> mine was uh...
2008-03-07 19:09 < Golbez> almost exactly 4 years ago, wow
2008-03-07 19:09 < Golbez> March 14 2004, so ... 1454 days ago
2008-03-07 19:09 < Golbez> (365 * 4 + 1 (leap day 2008) - 7 (today is march 7))
2008-03-07 19:12 < Golbez> eh i guess that's good enough
2008-03-07 19:13 < Messedrocker> hmm
2008-03-07 19:13 < Messedrocker> but here's the caveat
2008-03-07 19:13 < Messedrocker> when i joined wikipedia, it was also a leap year
2008-03-07 19:13 < Messedrocker> however, my first edit was november 26
2008-03-07 19:14 < Golbez> Messedrocker- then it don't count!
2008-03-07 19:14 < Golbez> i didn't count leap day 2004!
2008-03-07 19:15 < Messedrocker> does leap day 04 count when you join after February 29, 2004?
2008-03-07 19:29 < Golbez> aww Lir got unbanned
2008-03-07 20:10 < amobius> hey ppl :]
2008-03-07 20:10 < ST47> Erm
2008-03-07 20:11 < amobius> i am on a quest to find an answer about my video cards....I saw so many channels i just picked one...could someone direct me to a proper channel to ask about a video card issue?
2008-03-07 20:11 < amobius> sry if im bein rude ^_^
2008-03-07 20:11 < ST47> the key between a and d and between n and , do not work on thi keyboard
2008-03-07 20:11 < Starnestommy> depends on the OS
2008-03-07 20:12 < ST47> nor backpace
2008-03-07 20:12 < ST47> qwertyuiopafghjkl;zxcvbn,
2008-03-07 20:12 < ST47> What the hell
2008-03-07 20:12 < The359> find a different keyboard?
2008-03-07 20:14 < ST47> thia
2008-03-07 20:14 < ST47> ahh
2008-03-07 20:15 < ST47> This is an expensive keyboard. It shouldn't just stop working of its own accord
2008-03-07 20:15 < Cometstyles> O_O
2008-03-07 20:16 < The359> clean it out?
2008-03-07 20:16 < Cometstyles> hahaha
2008-03-07 20:16 < Cometstyles> install its drivers :P
2008-03-07 20:16 < Cometstyles> or update it
2008-03-07 20:16 < ST47> Every key on a keyboard doesn't progressivly fail because of drivers
2008-03-07 20:17 < Sgt_johnson> Heh... "We need more Vodka! Get the Armored Vehicle!"
2008-03-07 20:17 < Sgt_johnson> http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=163547
2008-03-07 20:19 < ST47> Now the backlight is spazzing.
2008-03-07 20:19 < ST47> Niligggghow, but fuckin annoying
2008-03-07 20:19 < ST47> Watthe
2008-03-07 20:19 * Rinn giggles
2008-03-07 20:19 < ST47> Agh gdan i
2008-03-07 20:20 < ST47> ...
2008-03-07 20:20 < The359> now you're just being annoying ;)
2008-03-07 20:20 < Messedrocker> my game has never taken this long to load
2008-03-07 20:20 < ST47> as soon as I threaten to replace it, it fixes itself
2008-03-07 20:21 < ST47> I wonder if the heater pisses it off
2008-03-07 20:21 < Messedrocker> it's like i'm using a gosh darn playstation
2008-03-07 20:21 < Sgt_johnson> http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=163335&page=1 -- rofl
2008-03-07 20:21 < noclip> wow
2008-03-07 20:21 < noclip> best redirect ever
2008-03-07 20:21 < noclip> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Developers_Developers_Developers&redirect=no
2008-03-07 20:22 < Mike5> this guy used an alt account to award himself no fewer than 6 barnstars http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mario1987&diff=prev&oldid=196361759
2008-03-07 20:23 < noclip> is that a violation of anything though?
2008-03-07 20:23 < noclip> barnstars aren't regulated
2008-03-07 20:23 < Mike5> i don't think it is
2008-03-07 20:23 < Mike5> i just find it amusing
2008-03-07 20:24 < noclip> you should give him a sockpuppeteer barnstar
2008-03-07 20:24 < Mike5> he's been blocked indefinitely for votestacking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Mario1987
2008-03-07 20:24 < noclip> don't you mean NotVote™ stacking?
2008-03-07 20:24 < Mike5> !vote
2008-03-07 20:25 < The359> I have a similar one today
2008-03-07 20:25 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ketchup_krew
2008-03-07 20:25 < The359> Only edits were to give his suppposed "brother" a barnstar
2008-03-07 20:25 < The359> For the design of his (absolutely shitty) user page
2008-03-07 20:25 < noclip> some people...
2008-03-07 20:25 < noclip> hah
2008-03-07 20:26 < noclip> [[Steve Ballmer]] is censored
2008-03-07 20:29 < noclip> "Ballmer allegedly said, 'Fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. I'm going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to fucking kill Google,' then resumed trying to persuade Lucovsky to stay at Microsoft."
2008-03-07 20:38 < NotACow> oom
2008-03-07 20:41 < Messedrocker> object-oriented multiplication?
2008-03-07 20:43 * NotACow multiplies Messedrocker's objects
2008-03-07 20:44 < quanticle> noclip: Don't forget the fact that he threw a chair as well.
2008-03-07 20:44 < quanticle> Messedrocker: String x Database connnection = ?
2008-03-07 20:45 < quanticle> NotACow: aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuummmmmmmmm....
2008-03-07 20:51 < Mike5> clearly a lot of work has been put into the referencing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300-page_iPhone_bill
2008-03-07 20:53 < Lubaf> Well, it looks like Iron Man will be composed of nothing more than crowning moments of awesome.
2008-03-07 20:53 < Lubaf> No plot, no characterization, just crowning moments of awesome.
2008-03-07 20:53 < Lubaf> I don't know whether that's a good or a bad thing.
2008-03-07 20:54 < quanticle> Lubaf: I know. I'm pumped.
2008-03-07 20:55 < quanticle> Lubaf: Everybody needs to sit back and watch mindless AWESOME every once in a while.
2008-03-07 21:01 < quanticle> Man, its quiet in here. Did #wikipedia collectively get a life?
2008-03-07 21:03 < jhannah> everyone but you and me, apparently :)
2008-03-07 21:03 < Rinn> I'll never have a life! Never!
2008-03-07 21:04 < Rinn> You can't make me!
2008-03-07 21:05 < quanticle> Rinn: Now that's the spirit :)
2008-03-07 21:07 * jhannah reads the "A Life" article
2008-03-07 21:09 * quanticle is reading the new War Nerd article
2008-03-07 21:09 < quanticle> Rinn: Wasn't it you who pointed that column out to me?
2008-03-07 21:10 < quanticle> "Nope, there’s no doubt about it: defeat is sweeter than victory any day, unless it actually happens to you. Once you’re safely under the sod and the battle is in the hands of the tribal bards, defeat is the best material around. Poets love defeat, which makes sense if you remember the kind of people who wrote poetry at school." <-- And this is why I read War Nerd
2008-03-07 21:11 < Rinn> Column?
2008-03-07 21:11 < quanticle> Perhaps it wasn't you then.
2008-03-07 21:12 < zocky> yay, it's π o'clock CET
2008-03-07 21:13 < quanticle> zocky: 0314?
2008-03-07 21:13 * zocky reads the backlog and decides his comment is pretty damn hilarious, coming after "#wikipedians don't have lives" insinuations
2008-03-07 21:13 < zocky> quanticle, yes
2008-03-07 21:14 < quanticle> zocky: What are you doing? Other than hanging out on #wikipedia of course.
2008-03-07 21:15 < zocky> quanticle, my sleep cycle is totally messed up, so I got up at 2am
2008-03-07 21:15 < zocky> ideally, I should be debugging a website for internet exploder (deadline looming), but I think I'll drink something and go back to bed
2008-03-07 21:20 * cat draws over the channel walls with craying
2008-03-07 21:20 * cat draws over the channel walls with crayons
2008-03-07 21:20 * Rinn draws over the channel walls with markers
2008-03-07 21:21 * cat snuggles Rinn
2008-03-07 21:21 * Rinn suffocates and dies
2008-03-07 21:21 < cat> O_o
2008-03-07 21:21 < cat> OH NOES!!!!!
2008-03-07 21:21 * cat gives Rinn one of his lifes
2008-03-07 21:21 < Starnestommy> "snuggling" and "smothering" are two different things
2008-03-07 21:21 < quanticle> OH NOES!!!! ITS THE ORIGINAL CAT
2008-03-07 21:21 < quanticle> White_Cat: Hey!
2008-03-07 21:21 < cat> :D
2008-03-07 21:21 < cat> how is quanticle?
2008-03-07 21:22 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Yo
2008-03-07 21:22 * Schrodinger_Cat nuzzles cat in an entirely nondeterministic fashion
2008-03-07 21:22 < cat> O_o
2008-03-07 21:22 * cat lights Schrodinger_Cat on fire
2008-03-07 21:23 < Schrodinger_Cat> Fire has no effect on something that can be in multiple places at once.
2008-03-07 21:23 * Rinn observes Schrodinger_Cat
2008-03-07 21:23 < Schrodinger_Cat> Schrodinger_Cat's wave function is unaffected
2008-03-07 21:25 * cat pushes Schrodinger_Cat into his drama teacher's you know what
2008-03-07 21:25 < cat> hint:it rhymes with vagina
2008-03-07 21:25 < Daniel_Bush> Schrodinger_Cat lives only a half-life and wants to die?
2008-03-07 21:25 * fajro is away: Gone away for now.
2008-03-07 21:25 < Schrodinger_Cat> Heh.
2008-03-07 21:26 * Schrodinger_Cat 's wave function finally collapses
2008-03-07 21:26 < pengo> how did this channel get over run with half dead cats?
2008-03-07 21:26 < Messedrocker> not half dead
2008-03-07 21:26 < Messedrocker> simultaneously dead and alive
2008-03-07 21:26 < pengo> i took the average
2008-03-07 21:26 < Daniel_Bush> Ceiling_Cat showed up one day and the rest followed
2008-03-07 21:27 < Daniel_Bush> We should have shot the first one in the head before the infestation showed up
2008-03-07 21:27 < pengo> they're coming out of the ceiling?
2008-03-07 21:27 < Daniel_Bush> Yes, like how rats live in the attic
2008-03-07 21:27 < Daniel_Bush> I believe they've found a pathway near the light fixtures
2008-03-07 21:28 < quanticle> Daniel_Bush: Except for Schrodinger_Cat. He just quantum tunneled in :)
2008-03-07 21:29 < Mike5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shredder
2008-03-07 21:30 < Daniel_Bush> Oh, I never heard about that
2008-03-07 21:30 < Daniel_Bush> I heard about the shredder, but not the semi-debunking
2008-03-07 21:31 < Daniel_Bush> Vietnam banned ownership of pet hamsters today
2008-03-07 21:32 < Lubaf> I need something that's closely related to [[WP:IAR]] besides BOLD and DICK.
2008-03-07 21:33 < Daniel_Bush> Just keep throwing out abbreviations that look like words
2008-03-07 21:33 < Daniel_Bush> You'll find a real one eventually
2008-03-07 21:33 < quanticle> Daniel_Bush: Why? Disease concerns?
2008-03-07 21:33 < Lubaf> Anybody else?
2008-03-07 21:34 < quanticle> Lubaf: STFU?
2008-03-07 21:34 < quanticle> DIAF?
2008-03-07 21:34 < Daniel_Bush> Yeah, they said they were being imported from China without restrictions and you know China
2008-03-07 21:34 < Lubaf> quanticle: [[WP:STFU]] is a redlinke.
2008-03-07 21:34 < Lubaf> As is [[WP:DIAF]]?
2008-03-07 21:34 < Lubaf> s/?/./
2008-03-07 21:35 < Daniel_Bush> NASA is running out of plutonium
2008-03-07 21:35 < quanticle> Daniel_Bush: Yeah. We'll have to buy some from Iran ;)
2008-03-07 21:36 < Daniel_Bush> so they'll have to conserve their reserves for missions that require long journeys
2008-03-07 21:37 < quanticle> Daniel_Bush: Yeah. I guess we won't be getting any more missions to Jupiter or Pluto for the foreseeable future.
2008-03-07 21:37 < Daniel_Bush> Our next mission to anywhere past Jupiter is in 2030
2008-03-07 21:37 < Daniel_Bush> if Neptune is Lucky
2008-03-07 21:37 < Daniel_Bush> s/Lucky/lucky
2008-03-07 21:37 < Daniel_Bush> Then it'll take eight years or so to arrive...
2008-03-07 21:38 < Daniel_Bush> But at least we have Mars, Jupiter, Ceres, Vesta, and Mercury research probe visits to look forward to
2008-03-07 21:39 < quanticle> Yep. Plenty of stuff to see within solar panel range of the Sun.
2008-03-07 21:44 < TheWeasel> Whoa
2008-03-07 21:45 * fajro is back.
2008-03-07 21:45 < TheWeasel> the illustration at [[Laryngeal cancer]] ain't for the faint of heart.
2008-03-07 21:46 < Messedrocker> if you don't want to look at gross pictures
2008-03-07 21:46 < Messedrocker> don't look up diseases pertaining to bodily mutation
2008-03-07 21:46 < TheWeasel> Just saying.
2008-03-07 21:46 < TheWeasel> Most contain some microscope scan
2008-03-07 21:46 < quanticle> Whoa. I mean that's almost on the order of goatse! Not just gross, but brain-segfault-inducing...
2008-03-07 21:47 < The359> looks like my ex girlfriend
2008-03-07 21:47 < TheWeasel> See.
2008-03-07 21:47 < The359> erm, I mean....
2008-03-07 21:47 < The359> *cough*
2008-03-07 21:47 < TheWeasel> Haha
2008-03-07 21:47 < Messedrocker> hah, brain segfault inducing
2008-03-07 21:47 < TheWeasel> Just imagine getting the diagnosis and reading up on it.
2008-03-07 21:47 < TheWeasel> and then see this
2008-03-07 21:49 * Kamping_Kaiser wonders if he wants to look o_0
2008-03-07 21:49 * Krimpet gets brain bus errors more often
2008-03-07 21:50 < Messedrocker> my cat is sitting behind my macbook
2008-03-07 21:50 < Kamping_Kaiser> Messedrocker, does it need a caption? :P
2008-03-07 21:50 * cat jumps onto Messedrocker's keyboard
2008-03-07 21:50 < cat> :D
2008-03-07 21:50 < Kamping_Kaiser> :D
2008-03-07 21:50 < Messedrocker> "I AM HIDING!"
2008-03-07 21:50 < cat> I SEES YOU!!
2008-03-07 21:51 < Kamping_Kaiser> "i iz yuppee kat!"
2008-03-07 21:51 < Messedrocker> there's such thing as a female yuppie?
2008-03-07 21:51 < Kamping_Kaiser> i think the term is gender agnostic
2008-03-07 21:52 < zocky> yes, i know plenty female yuppies
2008-03-07 21:52 < zocky> but then again, this is europe, and our women are allowed to leave house and have careers ;)
2008-03-07 21:53 < jhannah> fuck that
2008-03-07 21:53 < Kamping_Kaiser> zocky, *grin*
2008-03-07 21:54 < Leslie_S> anyone here know much about credit cards?
2008-03-07 21:54 < Leslie_S> and interest rates?
2008-03-07 21:54 < Leslie_S> especially introductory rates
2008-03-07 21:55 < zocky> yay for our upper house. first they existed for 16 years without ever doing anything useful, and now they're finally starting to veto government laws
2008-03-07 21:55 < Daniel_Bush> I looked up "yuppie" on Wikipedia
2008-03-07 21:56 < Daniel_Bush> and expected hippies wearing tie-dye T-shirts with bongs drinking beer from a can and saying "Yup."
2008-03-07 21:56 < zocky> the government wanted to pass a "law to finalize denationalization", which would give even more property and money to the church and grandchildren of quislings.
2008-03-07 21:56 < Daniel_Bush> like some weird redneck-hippie hybrid.
2008-03-07 22:00 < zocky> I am Mr. Paul Madis working with audit department of a Commercial Bank here
2008-03-07 22:00 < zocky> in London-UK. I have the pleasure to make this proposal of a very urgent
2008-03-07 22:00 < zocky> and confidential business to you. On 16th June 2002 a foreign Diamond Consultant
2008-03-07 22:00 < zocky> Who was working with Kruger Mining Corporation, name withheld made a numbered
2008-03-07 22:00 < zocky> time fixed deposit for twelve calendar months valued at £13.2 Million {GBP}
2008-03-07 22:00 < zocky> in my branch.
2008-03-07 22:00 < zocky> oops, wrong window
2008-03-07 22:00 < zocky> anyway: Email address : » paulmadis@o2.pl
2008-03-07 22:01 < zocky> is it common for english bankers to have email addresses on free webmail servers in poland?
2008-03-07 22:01 < arcimboldo_> absolutely.
2008-03-07 22:01 < arcimboldo_> Although they're more frequently on Russian servers.
2008-03-07 22:07 < yao_ziyua1> i think maybe this would work:
2008-03-07 22:07 < zocky> hmmm.... <<Baroness Thatcher taken to hospital after falling ill>>
2008-03-07 22:07 < Daniel_Bush> Hm. America's longest lived president died at 93, and John Adams, our second president, died at 90
2008-03-07 22:07 < Daniel_Bush> That's some progress...of 3 years
2008-03-07 22:07 * zocky goes check if there's any room in the fridge for the bottle
2008-03-07 22:07 < yao_ziyua1> since wikipedia's front page draws a lot of eyeballs,
2008-03-07 22:07 < yao_ziyua1> we can create stubs for totally new "domain wikis" there
2008-03-07 22:08 < yao_ziyua1> such as a "software component wiki" for programmers
2008-03-07 22:08 < Daniel_Bush> I was using presidents as a measurement on the basis that they probably get the best of the best treatment
2008-03-07 22:08 < yao_ziyua1> we just need to create a stub and a link
2008-03-07 22:09 < yao_ziyua1> pages like wikipedia's front page and google's front page draw the most clicks online...
2008-03-07 22:10 < Kristopher> what is the policy on mispelled pages / redirects?? ie should there be a page called 'Bil Gates' ?
2008-03-07 22:15 < Kristopher> *ahem*
2008-03-07 22:15 < zocky> Kristopher, don't create them, don't delete them
2008-03-07 22:16 < Kristopher> so, then who can create them? :P
2008-03-07 22:16 < zocky> Kristopher, people who don't know better :)
2008-03-07 22:16 < SaxPlayer> hi all
2008-03-07 22:16 < User____> hi