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2008-03-03 19:28 < Ceiling_Cat> not simultaneious
2008-03-03 19:28 < kenlyric> “Gay Sex and Death in the Science Fiction of Orson Scott Card"
2008-03-03 19:28 < rw> kenlyric, lol, such crazyness
2008-03-03 19:28 < Lubaf> Sometimes, I wish I could administer a small electric shock across the Internet.
2008-03-03 19:28 < Ceiling_Cat> mine cam in first :)
2008-03-03 19:28 < LordMetroid> Death to tax collectors!
2008-03-03 19:28 < Lubaf> Nothing major.
2008-03-03 19:28 < kenlyric> now that's an article I'd like to read
2008-03-03 19:28 < Messedrocker> death to metroids!
2008-03-03 19:28 < LordMetroid> Ohh noes, not the ice beam!
2008-03-03 19:28 < `quen> why the fuck does this keep happening every fucking day
2008-03-03 19:28 < Master_son> take em out!
2008-03-03 19:28 < Lubaf> Just enough to burn out the nerves on the more stupid fucktards fingers.
2008-03-03 19:28 < `quen> can the ops get better or something?
2008-03-03 19:28 < gwern> kenlyric: promising. you can start with the death of Bonzo
2008-03-03 19:28 < Arria> Neat, the machine that goes PING! visited the channel.
2008-03-03 19:28 < Daniel_Bush> White_Cat, Ceiling_Cat, MessedRocket, Lubaf, kenlyric, LordMetroid, kibble, rw, LiraNuna, and KjoonLee,
2008-03-03 19:29 < Gracenotes> no.
2008-03-03 19:29 < Daniel_Bush> I think someone's trying to nickflood
2008-03-03 19:29 < kenlyric> gwern: what?
2008-03-03 19:29 < TheLetterE_away> Daniel_Bush: Dont try it :)
2008-03-03 19:29 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-03 19:29 < LordMetroid> Daniel_Bush: You already lsted me!
2008-03-03 19:29 < Arria> There are no other Monty Python fans here? :-(
2008-03-03 19:29 < LordMetroid> death to Busg
2008-03-03 19:29 < Arria> Or is my joke really that bad?
2008-03-03 19:29 * Arria hides in shame
2008-03-03 19:29 < LiraNuna> will someone make it STOP?
2008-03-03 19:29 < rw> white_cat ?
2008-03-03 19:29 < gwern> bonzon could be a case - simply say the sublimated tension was that bonzo wanted to make ender his lover
2008-03-03 19:30 < gwern> he's a gay spanish kid, you say
2008-03-03 19:30 < peh> Arria: there was much rejoicing
2008-03-03 19:30 < kenlyric> I guess I'd have to read the book again. That one must have passed right over me
2008-03-03 19:30 < Arria> Yes! I'm not alone!
2008-03-03 19:30 < gwern> I doubt ender's game actually says bonzo is gay, but it wouldn't be a hard case to make
2008-03-03 19:31 < Demi> i've read so much analysis of ender's game i doubt i would ever really like it as a book
2008-03-03 19:31 < Demi> also, i have some kind of block over "young adult" fiction
2008-03-03 19:32 * gwern is so far behind - I'm only up to the 13th of last month in my watchlist
2008-03-03 19:32 < rw> now will you all behave please!
2008-03-03 19:32 < rw> thank you
2008-03-03 19:32 < bumm13> rw: who exactly are you talking to?
2008-03-03 19:33 < rw> well... all :)
2008-03-03 19:33 < privatemusings> hi folks....
2008-03-03 19:33 * Ceiling_Cat watches rw
2008-03-03 19:33 < privatemusings> we're recording a skypecast in half an hour or so...
2008-03-03 19:33 < privatemusings> and the doors are open now....
2008-03-03 19:33 < privatemusings> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NotTheWikipediaWeekly#Our_next_Skypecast
2008-03-03 19:33 < rw> Ceiling_Cat, ah, there you are! how's the weather in australia? =)
2008-03-03 19:33 < Demi> i have a patent on any portmanteau ending in -cast
2008-03-03 19:33 < Daniel_Bush> It's illegal to record a conversation where one party does not consent in Nevada
2008-03-03 19:33 < Therapist_Cat> rw - is that a Ceiling_Cat on yohr ceiling or are you just happy to see me?
2008-03-03 19:33 < Demi> and also, a patent on "portmanteau"
2008-03-03 19:33 < Demi> and portmanteaucasts
2008-03-03 19:34 < TheWeasel> Portmanteau = Harbourcoat
2008-03-03 19:34 < Therapist_Cat> Daniel_Bush - consent is overrated
2008-03-03 19:34 < TheWeasel> Coatharbour, rather
2008-03-03 19:34 * Therapist_Cat ducks
2008-03-03 19:35 < TheWeasel> sometimes nouns are used like adjectives in French
2008-03-03 19:36 < Demi> The noun, it describes
2008-03-03 19:36 < peh> that's because french are little-endian and everyone else is big-endian
2008-03-03 19:37 < Daniel_Bush> I'll never forget when Rape_Cat raped me.
2008-03-03 19:37 < Daniel_Bush> 8/27/06
2008-03-03 19:37 < Daniel_Bush> I'll never forget.
2008-03-03 19:37 < Soms> heh
2008-03-03 19:39 < Daniel_Bush> So how about that crisis on the Colombian east and west borders
2008-03-03 19:42 < quanticle> Daniel_Bush: Well, its looking like a proxy war between us and Chavez down there.
2008-03-03 19:42 < Daniel_Bush> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7275732.stm
2008-03-03 19:43 < Daniel_Bush> Colombia thinks Chavez has been funding a socialist rebel group there, and Colombia struck their base in Ecuador, a nation which they think has politicians with strong ties to said domestic guerrilla rebel group thing
2008-03-03 19:44 < Daniel_Bush> Brazil is all "doods don't bring Brazil into this"
2008-03-03 19:45 < quanticle> Which is leading Salvador Uribe to ask, "DONDE ESTA EL BASE DE LOS REBELDES?"
2008-03-03 19:47 < Messedrocker> Ceiling_Cat is a drama llama ding dong
2008-03-03 19:48 < The359> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Farc_guerrilheira.jpg she can detain me
2008-03-03 19:50 < kenlyric> ggreer: you're safe. I don't have to hate you
2008-03-03 19:50 < ggreer> hah
2008-03-03 19:50 < Daniel_Bush> Out of the three nations involved in this, I'm cheering for the cocaine addicted one
2008-03-03 19:51 < ggreer> Daniel_Bush: wtf? uranium?
2008-03-03 19:51 < Daniel_Bush> My sixth grade geography book said their three most important exports are coffee, cocaine, and emeralds
2008-03-03 19:52 < Daniel_Bush> I only remember that because I remember thinking "Emeralds? I knew about the coffee and the cocaine, but emeralds? Really?"
2008-03-03 19:52 < quanticle> Yeah, lots of emeralds come from that area.
2008-03-03 19:52 < kenlyric> although her own interprepation seems a bit out there, the issues she brings up have always been issues I've had with Ender.
2008-03-03 19:52 < quanticle> Its rather like India in that regard.
2008-03-03 19:52 < quanticle> kenlyric: Who?
2008-03-03 19:53 < kenlyric> http://peachfront.diaryland.com/enderhitlte.html
2008-03-03 19:53 < kenlyric> this I think is a more reasoned criticism of Ender: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~tenshi/Killer_000.htm
2008-03-03 19:54 < The359> http://youtube.com/watch?v=W4OxGkmvPng Yikes!
2008-03-03 19:56 < The359> The Airbus A320 having to abort a landing in Hamburg
2008-03-03 19:56 < The359> after dragging the wings
2008-03-03 19:57 < chardish> Is it just me, or is User:Newbyguesses engaging in a large amount of uncivil discussion/personal attacks here? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Ignore_all_rules#Edit_warring_on_the_discussion_page
2008-03-03 19:57 < chardish> and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Ignore_all_rules#CHARDISH_childishly_refactoring_still.2C_up_to_about_ten_sneaky_ones_so_far.2C_on_this_discussion_page
2008-03-03 20:00 < Daniel_Bush> Apparently France didn't like that the #2 FARC guy was killed,
2008-03-03 20:00 < Daniel_Bush> because he was their sole contact in negotiating with FARC over a French hostage
2008-03-03 20:01 < chardish> [[French hostage]] isn't even an article, let alone an FA
2008-03-03 20:01 < chardish> why would it be on FARC?
2008-03-03 20:01 < chardish> ; )
2008-03-03 20:01 < Daniel_Bush> At first when the French foreign minister said the death was bad news, I thought, "Oh, maybe if we're lucky we can have a France-U.S. proxy war in South America"
2008-03-03 20:03 < Daniel_Bush> That'd be fun, right
2008-03-03 20:03 < Daniel_Bush> We'd have the "Freedom fries" and "cheese eating surrender monkeys" sentiment all over television again
2008-03-03 20:06 < NotACow> CHEESE BOMB!
2008-03-03 20:08 < Daniel_Bush> Poisoning their cheese and wine won't work
2008-03-03 20:08 < Daniel_Bush> They'll send Jaques Chirac to taste test it for them
2008-03-03 20:10 < Soms> That might not be a bad thing.
2008-03-03 20:10 < NotACow> MOAR DRAMAH!
2008-03-03 20:11 < Soms> EAT MOAR CHICKAN!
2008-03-03 20:11 < Faroframkallande> CRY SOMS MOAR
2008-03-03 20:13 < kenlyric> man, what a tool "Now Hillary is getting a taste of what it's like to run for President as a Republican, with the media against you every step of the way."
2008-03-03 20:13 < kenlyric> what media is against republicans?
2008-03-03 20:13 < kenlyric> I WANT TO FIND THIS CHANNEL
2008-03-03 20:14 < kenlyric> comedy central. My mistake
2008-03-03 20:17 < NotACow> meh.
2008-03-03 20:23 < NotACow> MOO
2008-03-03 20:25 < kenlyric> "Taking over the world by talking smack on Slashdot"
2008-03-03 20:25 < kenlyric> this is the book I was destined to write.
2008-03-03 20:25 < NotACow> 1163 visitors
2008-03-03 20:25 < Daniel_Bush> How long will it take the American public to go back from the "war-weary" phase to the "It's not an election year and we need moar drama" phase
2008-03-03 20:26 < Daniel_Bush> Birthday cake ice cream is the best ice cream
2008-03-03 20:26 < Daniel_Bush> I like pretzels, too
2008-03-03 20:26 < NotACow> ew.
2008-03-03 20:26 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-03 20:26 < kenlyric> Daniel_Bush: we're in the war wear phase?
2008-03-03 20:26 < cremepuff222> Daniel_Bush, I love that kind!
2008-03-03 20:26 < kenlyric> I haven't kept up
2008-03-03 20:26 < cremepuff222> Except you pinged me. :-(
2008-03-03 20:27 < NotACow> pinga pinga poo!
2008-03-03 20:27 < NotACow> 1168
2008-03-03 20:27 < Daniel_Bush> Yeah, 70% of Americans disapprove of the handling of the Iraq War, and somewhere near that want withdrawal
2008-03-03 20:27 < Daniel_Bush> as opposed to the 90% support a few years ago
2008-03-03 20:27 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: premature withdrawal?
2008-03-03 20:27 < gwern> NotACow: in your blog post, what dinner are you talking about?
2008-03-03 20:28 < NotACow> gwern: fuck, i need to explain that better
2008-03-03 20:28 < NotACow> gwern: see danny's blogpost.
2008-03-03 20:28 < kenlyric> Daniel_Bush: it's been that way for a while
2008-03-03 20:28 < cremepuff222> Yay.
2008-03-03 20:28 < kenlyric> but we got bored with War weary in january when the election heated up
2008-03-03 20:28 < cremepuff222> Why was he banned anyway?
2008-03-03 20:28 < bluefoxx> so whats this i hear about the creator's stuff being sold on ebay?
2008-03-03 20:28 < Gracenotes> cremepuff222: it was in dircbot's ineffable will
2008-03-03 20:29 < NotACow> it's the $650 bill with the wine that danny mentions
2008-03-03 20:29 < Daniel_Bush> Once we withdraw from Iraq and we're back in our "drama" phase, we can't go back into Iraq, because that'd be boring and already done. No, we have to invade---wait for it--Ecuador.
2008-03-03 20:29 < Mike_H> A poll shows 32% approve of the job President Bush is doing. Results are based on telephone interviews with 2,021 national adults, aged 18+, conducted February 21-24, 2008.
2008-03-03 20:29 < kenlyric> uh
2008-03-03 20:29 < Gracenotes> no, I don't think Latin America is exciting to many Americans
2008-03-03 20:29 < Mike_H> 62% disapprove
2008-03-03 20:29 < gwern> 'So Jimbeau cancelled an upcoming trip to Italy, Serbia, and Croatia, and got to work finding receipts. I helped process them. Subway ticket in Moscow: $0.50. Massage parlor in Moscow: priceless. Some were accepted; others were not, like the $650 spent on two bottles of wine during a dinner for four at Bern's—I remember that one because he submitted it twice, once with the tip scratched out. I wonder if the students who gave up their lunch money ...
2008-03-03 20:29 < Gracenotes> they're Christian
2008-03-03 20:29 < Gracenotes> even if they have drug cartels
2008-03-03 20:29 < gwern> ... to donate to Wikipedia would have approved of that expense. In the end he reached a deal with Brad—details unknown—and paid the Foundation about $7000 in two checks. I don't know what happened with the rest, but the checks can be found in the list of donors.' <-- ah
2008-03-03 20:29 < gwern> I think Iran is excitingly new and untried
2008-03-03 20:29 < Gracenotes> and we can't invade a Christian country
2008-03-03 20:29 < kenlyric> it's astounding that 32% of americans are really that dumb.
2008-03-03 20:29 < Mike_H> His lowest numbers were in July 2007
2008-03-03 20:30 < Mike_H> when 29% of Americans approved
2008-03-03 20:30 < kenlyric> I always guess it, but it's astounding to think so.
2008-03-03 20:30 < NotACow> gwern: i've updated.
2008-03-03 20:30 < Gracenotes> gwern: yes, they're Islamic
2008-03-03 20:30 < Gracenotes> I think it would work quite well
2008-03-03 20:30 < kenlyric> or maybe they mean "he's doing a heck of a job"
2008-03-03 20:30 < kenlyric> like bush says before he fires someone.
2008-03-03 20:30 < Daniel_Bush> How about sending troops to Nepal to combat the Commies
2008-03-03 20:30 < Daniel_Bush> No, wait, too close to China
2008-03-03 20:30 < Gracenotes> try Tiberia?
2008-03-03 20:30 < gwern> '(Florence will surely remember his explanation for one of these: "I don’t make any money, and my wife needs a washing machine." Her response was wonderful: "A gold-plated washing machine?")' <-- lol
2008-03-03 20:30 < kenlyric> well, the think about Iraq is where we'll never leave iraq.
2008-03-03 20:30 < Gracenotes> no... invent a military insurgency based in Tibet
2008-03-03 20:31 < Mike_H> The last time a majority of Americans believed Bush was doing a good job
2008-03-03 20:31 < kenlyric> so, no worries about who to invade next.
2008-03-03 20:31 < Mike_H> was in May 2005
2008-03-03 20:31 < gwern> hmm. when did Messedrocker take money from the foundation?
2008-03-03 20:31 < gwern> was he an intern?
2008-03-03 20:31 < kenlyric> the most astonishing thing in that figure is the 30% or so people who changed their minds between November 2004 and November 2006
2008-03-03 20:31 < Messedrocker> scholarship, gwern
2008-03-03 20:31 < NotACow> gwern: this stuff is golden
2008-03-03 20:31 < kenlyric> like, what did bush do different that they suddenly woke up?
2008-03-03 20:32 < NotACow> gwern: i told jimmy that i was his enemy. i don't thikn he took me seriously.
2008-03-03 20:32 < Mike_H> kenlyric: Back in 2004, during election time, we didn't know a whole lot about the extent of his lies
2008-03-03 20:32 < kenlyric> Any grown man who wants to be called Jimmy should be the enemy.
2008-03-03 20:32 < gwern> kenlyric: might've been a tipping point, where enough people finally started not swallowing the bull that other people had to take it seriously
2008-03-03 20:32 < NotACow> kenlyric: well, then call him Jimbeau. :)
2008-03-03 20:32 < kenlyric> Mike_H you weren't paying attention
2008-03-03 20:32 < bluefoxx> so anyone know anything about this story with wikipedia's creator's stuff getting sold on ebay?
2008-03-03 20:32 < Krimpet> NotACow: http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/post/27860211 is pretty applicable to the WP community too :)
2008-03-03 20:33 < NotACow> bluefoxx: yes, it's all over the blogosphere
2008-03-03 20:33 < Mike_H> kenlyric: We assumed it was propaganda from the other party.
2008-03-03 20:33 < Mike_H> My opinion didn't change about Bush until 2005.
2008-03-03 20:33 < quanticle> bluefoxx: Yeah. Basically she's generating drama.
2008-03-03 20:33 < gwern> NotACow: no offense, but so far I think the register, danny, and that vally wagger whatever are doing a better job of being enemies so far
2008-03-03 20:33 < NotACow> bluefoxx: basically jimmy broke up with his crazy ex-fox-news-babe by posting on it on wikipedia.
2008-03-03 20:33 < NotACow> bluefoxx: so she's selling his clothes on ebay.
2008-03-03 20:33 < bluefoxx> NotACow: can you link me up to the artical?
2008-03-03 20:33 < quanticle> Mucho drama all around
2008-03-03 20:33 < gwern> 'Or maybe we could just talk about how long it will be before Carolyn Doran gets out of jail?' <-- where is Doran now anyway?
2008-03-03 20:33 < Mike_H> NotACow: This is a perfect time for this video
2008-03-03 20:33 < Mike_H> gwern: prison
2008-03-03 20:33 < NotACow> bluefoxx: see http://nonbovine-ruminations.blogspot.com
2008-03-03 20:33 < Mike_H> http://youtube.com/watch?v=XcidD2HFK8M
2008-03-03 20:34 < NotACow> gwern: i feed stuff to cade all the time.
2008-03-03 20:34 < Mike_H> gwern: and that isn't flippant either
2008-03-03 20:34 < gwern> Mike_H: oh. that makes sense
2008-03-03 20:34 < kenlyric> Mike_H: so you had a good opinion of him? interesting.
2008-03-03 20:34 < Mike_H> she's in prison
2008-03-03 20:34 < Mike_H> in Staunton, Virginia
2008-03-03 20:34 < gwern> ' So wait. Jimmy slept with a republican?
2008-03-03 20:34 < NotACow> Mike_H: is that near trenton, new jersey?
2008-03-03 20:34 < gwern> 'And you thought Jimmy was a Democrat? Remember, he is a Randian libertarian with all that that entails.
2008-03-03 20:34 < Mike_H> gwern: As long as it's puss, he doesn't care
2008-03-03 20:34 < NotACow> gwern: yeah, i *loved* that
2008-03-03 20:34 < bluefoxx> NotACow: thanks
2008-03-03 20:34 < Mike_H> NotACow: nah ;)
2008-03-03 20:34 * Daniel_Bush imagines Donald Rumsfeld on the floor in a puddle with an empty glass beer bottle, mumbling "Donald Rumsfeld is all out of rum"
2008-03-03 20:34 < NotACow> bluefoxx: also see http://allswool.blogspot.com
2008-03-03 20:35 < kenlyric> I approve
2008-03-03 20:35 < gwern> NotACow: hm. fed him what? I didn't read them all that carefully, but the occasional mention of you didn't seem eathshattering
2008-03-03 20:35 < gwern> Daniel_Bush: but why is all the rum gone?
2008-03-03 20:35 < NotACow> gwern: i often feed him deep tips that he then researches
2008-03-03 20:35 < NotACow> gwern: off the record stuff
2008-03-03 20:36 < gwern> bah. sometimes I think NotACow likes the secrecy games quite as much as does WMF & co
2008-03-03 20:37 < Mike_H> gwern: I think NotACow just finds it funny when people think they're smart and clever
2008-03-03 20:37 < Mike_H> when they're clearly not.
2008-03-03 20:38 < kibble> /hide
2008-03-03 20:38 < NotACow> i think mike is closer than y ou are, gwern :)
2008-03-03 20:38 < NotACow> kibble: you can run but you can't hide.
2008-03-03 20:38 < kenlyric> Mike_H: me, on feb 11, 2003: Gas: $1.74 Bush: A moron. War: inevitable
2008-03-03 20:38 < kenlyric> to think that $1.74 was high then....
2008-03-03 20:38 < kibble> NotACow: :'(
2008-03-03 20:38 < Mike_H> kenlyric: yeah, in my senior high school yearbook
2008-03-03 20:38 < NotACow> kibble: it's ok, we don't bite. usually.
2008-03-03 20:38 < Mike_H> we have a picture of "gas being so high!"
2008-03-03 20:38 < Mike_H> it was $1.49
2008-03-03 20:38 < kibble> NotACow: ;-)
2008-03-03 20:39 < gwern> 'Huh? Above the law? What law has he broken - the law against sleeping around, eating well and having a good time?'
2008-03-03 20:39 < NotACow> kibble: unless you've got film of jimbo sucking cock, we don't care :)
2008-03-03 20:39 < kibble> lol
2008-03-03 20:39 < kenlyric> why would we care then?
2008-03-03 20:39 < kibble> NotACow: well, now that you mention it...
2008-03-03 20:39 < gwern> 'As far as the expense account receipts, he's not the first person, high-profile or otherwise, to use bad judgment. But the accounting department gatekeepers did what they are supposed to do, and it's been rectified. The system works.' <-- I HAVE FAITH IN THE SYSTEM
2008-03-03 20:39 < NotACow> kenlyric: it would be even hotter than jimmy having hot bouncy sex with crazy fox chick
2008-03-03 20:40 < gwern> 'For those of you looking to "burn Jimmy at the stake," don't worry, a lot more of his secrets are going to hit the proverbial fan soon.' <-- pics or it never happened
2008-03-03 20:41 < gwern> 'So I'm going to make one simple statement: Jimmy has never used Wikimedia money to subsidize his personal expenditures. Indeed, he has consistently put the Foundation's interests ahead of his own, and has erred on the side of personally paying for his own Wikimedia-related expenditures, rather than the reverse. Sue Gardner'
2008-03-03 20:41 < Mike_H> he has consistently put the Foundation's interests ahead of his own <-- pix or that never happened.
2008-03-03 20:42 < kenlyric> he has concerns other than his own?
2008-03-03 20:42 < kenlyric> I thought he just spent all his time editing his own wikipedia page
2008-03-03 20:42 < gwern> no, he spends all his time working on wikia
2008-03-03 20:43 < kenlyric> ah
2008-03-03 20:43 < kenlyric> so nerds can have wikis for every game
2008-03-03 20:43 < kenlyric> and every tV show
2008-03-03 20:43 < kenlyric> THANK YOU JIMBO!
2008-03-03 20:43 < Mike_H> A Rachel Marsden wiki
2008-03-03 20:43 < Mike_H> genius.
2008-03-03 20:43 < Mike_H> thank you, kenlyric
2008-03-03 20:43 < Krimpet> no, so he can buy his own personal jet to have sex on -_-
2008-03-03 20:43 < Mike_H> for that idea
2008-03-03 20:44 < gwern> kenlyric: the deletionists would have it that wikia is the greatest excuse ever for deleting stuff
2008-03-03 20:45 < quanticle> gwern: It should be on its own wiki, in 'pedia?
2008-03-03 20:45 < quanticle> *not
2008-03-03 20:45 < gwern> quanticle: keep trying. still ambiguous...
2008-03-03 20:46 < Daniel_Bush> Why is advertisement-free content written with the explicit purpose of being included on a free server proposed to be transfered to a website where ads are slapped all over
2008-03-03 20:47 < Daniel_Bush> If I had all my star article content transferred to some Wikia page where GoogleAds see "star" and come up with Jennifer Lopez Entertainment Weekly ads, I don't think I'd bother with Wikipedia again
2008-03-03 20:47 < gwern> the license allows commercial use, is why
2008-03-03 20:47 < gwern> Daniel_Bush: your articles don't appear on ask.com and the bzallion other commercial mirrors already?
2008-03-03 20:47 < quanticle> gwern: It should be on its own wiki, not 'pedia, rather.
2008-03-03 20:47 < Krimpet> indeed, WP is specifically intended for commercial use, that's how the GFDL works
2008-03-03 20:48 < Daniel_Bush> Yeah, but at least they could be accessed in some place free
2008-03-03 20:48 < gwern> quanticle: yes, that's the classic formulation
2008-03-03 20:48 < Krimpet> the GFDL is an awful choice for wikis
2008-03-03 20:48 < gwern> Daniel_Bush: fork or hush up, I believe the response is
2008-03-03 20:49 < Daniel_Bush> Wikipedia is not "specifically intended" for commerical use, it merely allows it so as to not let legal troubles get in the way of the flow of free information
2008-03-03 20:49 < Krimpet> gwern: all forks need the same license, though
2008-03-03 20:49 < Krimpet> Daniel_Bush: the GFDL was designed so the GNU people could sell their manuals
2008-03-03 20:49 < gwern> Krimpet: no, I mean if he wants 'some place free', he's free to fork and set up some such place
2008-03-03 20:52 < quanticle> Well, theoretically you can also sell GPL software. As long as you include the code, and allow redistribution, there's nothing preventing you from selling GPL'd code. In fact, before cheap bandwidth, it might have actually been quite profitable to sell Linux distros, since most people didn't have the bandwidth to download the isos themselves.
2008-03-03 20:53 < gwern> quanticle: people still sell Linux cd ISOs
2008-03-03 20:53 < quanticle> gwern: That is true. I saw SuSE Linux on sale in Best Buy the other day.
2008-03-03 20:53 < Krimpet> it's not too profitable now, though, since you can even get free CDs from e.g. Ubuntu
2008-03-03 20:53 < gwern> I nearly bought a bunch before Ubuntu sent me some free cds which I could bootstrap off of (to using my burner)
2008-03-03 20:54 < Krimpet> I guess the real money there is in support, though
2008-03-03 20:55 < gwern> yes. lord knows I appreciate ubuntu and the others for increasing their user-friendliness, but they still are just not at windows or mac level
2008-03-03 20:55 < gwern> well, maybe not windows. I haven't used vista yet...
2008-03-03 20:55 < Messedrocker> windows vista is terrible
2008-03-03 20:55 < Mike_H> omg! currently redirects to Oh My Goddess!
2008-03-03 20:56 < Mike_H> I'm going to write a real article there
2008-03-03 20:56 < Mike_H> at omg!
2008-03-03 20:56 < Krimpet> I think ubuntu's at the point where it would be fine for mainstream use if only the hardware and software vendors were on board
2008-03-03 20:57 < Krimpet> really the only hard part of setting it up now is getting certain wonky drivers to work
2008-03-03 20:58 < Messedrocker> drivers are OS-independent, no?
2008-03-03 20:58 < Messedrocker> they work largely at the hardware level
2008-03-03 20:58 < Krimpet> Messedrocker: oh, far from it :p
2008-03-03 20:58 < Messedrocker> actually, they need some sort of OS dependence
2008-03-03 20:58 < Messedrocker> components in the stack that is the computer need to be two-faced
2008-03-03 20:58 < Messedrocker> and a driver needs to have a face pointing to the OS
2008-03-03 20:58 < gwern> "Chuck Norris is not a man; he is the culmination of hundreds of years of black oppression."
2008-03-03 20:58 < Krimpet> and, well, support. ubuntu still has the usual linux snobbishness attached to it -_-
2008-03-03 20:59 < gwern> "Google recieves 300 million hits a day. Chuck Norris can deliver that many hits in less than a second."
2008-03-03 20:59 < quanticle> Chuck Norris can divide by zero
2008-03-03 20:59 < Messedrocker> quanticle, so can calc students
2008-03-03 20:59 < Gracenotes> no, they can't
2008-03-03 20:59 < Gracenotes> but they can divide by a limit to 0
2008-03-03 20:59 * gwern reads the Kyle Katarn facts here: http://boards.theforce.net/literature/b10003/24965494/p1 <-- lol, it's funny because Kyle Katarn *is* such an overpowered Star Wars character
2008-03-03 20:59 < Messedrocker> i thought a positive number divided by zero was infinity
2008-03-03 21:00 < Gracenotes> Messedrocker: it's undefined, technically
2008-03-03 21:00 < gwern> quanticle: that's actually in our [[Chuck Norris facts]] article
2008-03-03 21:00 < Gracenotes> but the limit to it is almost always 0
2008-03-03 21:00 < Gracenotes> er, rather, infinity
2008-03-03 21:00 < Gracenotes> except when the numerator is 0.
2008-03-03 21:00 < Gracenotes> in which case it's undefined... again.
2008-03-03 21:00 < Messedrocker> er yes
2008-03-03 21:00 < gwern> ' Kyle Katarn never writes in his datapads; the words assemble themselves out of fear. '
2008-03-03 21:01 < gwern> '
2008-03-03 21:01 < Messedrocker> nothing can equal infinity
2008-03-03 21:01 < gwern> The Death Star was not supposed to have any weakness. They were planning to have Kyle Katarn stand inside the exhaust shaft. '
2008-03-03 21:01 < Gracenotes> unless you do something like L'Hopital's rule, or dividing out common factors
2008-03-03 21:01 < Messedrocker> things can only approach infinity
2008-03-03 21:01 < gwern> ' There are no disabled beings. Only beings who have met Kyle Katarn. '
2008-03-03 21:02 < Gracenotes> Messedrocker: well... arbitrarily high is a different concept from infinity in set theory.
2008-03-03 21:02 < gwern> '
2008-03-03 21:02 < Gracenotes> '?
2008-03-03 21:02 < quanticle> gwern: ' Darth Malak once tried to copy Kyle's beard. We know what happened next. ' <-- I am such a nerd for getting that.
2008-03-03 21:02 < gwern> In Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast players may see a screen that says "Game Over Kyle Katarn Has Died" This however is a typo. It was supposed to say "Game Over Kyle Katarn Is Bored" '
2008-03-03 21:03 < gwern> quanticle: I liked that one too, but I figured few people here played kotor II
2008-03-03 21:03 < gwern> ' Kyle Katarn was about to fly across the galaxy, when he relised it would be quicker to run.'
2008-03-03 21:04 < quanticle> " ROTS is lying, the real reason Vader is in the suit is because he picked a fight with 3-year-old Kyle, and Kyle was feeling generous that day. "
2008-03-03 21:04 < quanticle> Dinner time
2008-03-03 21:04 < quanticle> brb
2008-03-03 21:04 < NotACow> moooch
2008-03-03 21:06 < Daniel_Bush> You've got the rots, quanticle?
2008-03-03 21:06 < Daniel_Bush> Those can be harsh
2008-03-03 21:07 < Daniel_Bush> Scrub thoroughly and it'll be gone in a few weeks
2008-03-03 21:08 < Daniel_Bush> So Hillary Clinton has implied she thinks McCain will make a better president than Barack Obama
2008-03-03 21:09 < Daniel_Bush> Hillary Clinton told reporters that both she and the presumtive Republican nominee John McCain offer the experience to be ready to tackle any crisis facing the country under their watch, but Barack Obama simply offers more rhetoric. "I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say," she said. "He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his...
2008-03-03 21:09 < Daniel_Bush> ...lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."
2008-03-03 21:09 < denelson83> wikislow
2008-03-03 21:10 < denelson83> !+N
2008-03-03 21:11 < gwern> Daniel_Bush: she's desperate now. the odds are badly against her
2008-03-03 21:11 < gwern> I think she'd prefer to be the dem nom, and lose to mccain, than see obama be the nom and win
2008-03-03 21:13 < Daniel_Bush> Regardless of whether she wins or loses the presidential election, she'd still rather have the spotlight from March until November, even if it means McCain wins
2008-03-03 21:13 < Cirt> VP ideas?
2008-03-03 21:13 < gwern> well, if obama might offer her the VP, that changes the calculus - better to be the VP, than to be the P nom?
2008-03-03 21:14 < gwern> if only P=NP were as easy to solve as P=VP!
2008-03-03 21:14 < Daniel_Bush> I'd offer her Secretary of State and not VP
2008-03-03 21:14 < Cirt> now that's a good idea
2008-03-03 21:15 * gwern would really like a [[tansu]] chest
2008-03-03 21:15 < Cirt> we'll know a whole hell of a lot more in 24 hrs
2008-03-03 21:15 < Daniel_Bush> She says she has all this foreign policy experience from flying around the world meeting with leaders, so she'd be a better asset as head of the Department of State than just the tie-breaking vote in the Senate
2008-03-03 21:15 < gwern> oh? are the texas primaries finally happening?
2008-03-03 21:15 < Daniel_Bush> Two days from now.
2008-03-03 21:15 < Daniel_Bush> Oh, one day
2008-03-03 21:15 < Daniel_Bush> How about that
2008-03-03 21:15 < Mike5> wikidown?
2008-03-03 21:15 < Daniel_Bush> Tomorrow's the big day
2008-03-03 21:16 < Daniel_Bush> It came so fast I don't know what happened
2008-03-03 21:16 < gwern> wikiup
2008-03-03 21:16 < gwern> finally. I was geting a little sick of everybody saying Hillary's gotta win them
2008-03-03 21:16 < Daniel_Bush> I'm guessing Obama wins Texas by 10% and loses Ohio by 5%
2008-03-03 21:17 < Cirt> could be
2008-03-03 21:17 < Daniel_Bush> Hillary trudges on to Pennsylvania and claims it as her next firewall regardless of whether she wins or loses both
2008-03-03 21:17 < Cirt> my guess is Tomorrow gets up and hits a long fly ball to Because
2008-03-03 21:17 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: that's not unreasonable.
2008-03-03 21:17 < Cirt> j/k
2008-03-03 21:17 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: i think he wins texas, comes close to even in ohio and rhode island, and whomps all over hillary in vermont
2008-03-03 21:17 < Daniel_Bush> Meanwhile, Obama takes Wyoming and Mississippi, even if he loses both Ohio and Texas
2008-03-03 21:18 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: i think he will stump hillary in mississippi
2008-03-03 21:18 < _sj_> gwern: or she's just prepping for a mccain:clinton ticket
2008-03-03 21:18 < _sj_> now that would be interesting
2008-03-03 21:18 < _sj_> we haven't had a cross-party ticket in a long, long time
2008-03-03 21:18 < NotACow> _sj_: that wouldn't be a cross-party ticket
2008-03-03 21:18 < NotACow> _sj_: they're both corporatists.
2008-03-03 21:18 < _sj_> ;)
2008-03-03 21:19 < _sj_> thats why they'd get along
2008-03-03 21:19 < gwern> _sj_: no, that'd be madness. mccain would never take her
2008-03-03 21:19 < _sj_> we haven't even had a NOMINAL cross-party ticket since. since p/vp stopped being decided at the convention?
2008-03-03 21:19 < NotACow> damn
2008-03-03 21:19 < _sj_> that's forever ago.
2008-03-03 21:19 < NotACow> 1230 visitors
2008-03-03 21:19 < _sj_> gwern, why not?
2008-03-03 21:20 < _sj_> gwern: I suppose the party would choose someone else to represent them
2008-03-03 21:20 < _sj_> NotACow, cooking for guests?
2008-03-03 21:20 < gwern> _sj_: mccain is already in enough difficulties with the conservatives. taking hillary would drive them into stark hatred
2008-03-03 21:21 < gwern> I think people underestimate just how much the National Review crowd despises her
2008-03-03 21:21 < Ceiling_Cat> does anyone here have a copy of 'the Last Mimzy'?
2008-03-03 21:21 < Ceiling_Cat> specifically, I need a screen-cap
2008-03-03 21:21 < Ceiling_Cat> to illustrate the fact that they copied from wikipedia
2008-03-03 21:22 < NotACow> _sj_: dear lord
2008-03-03 21:22 < NotACow> _sj_: i once cooked for 14. that was *hard*
2008-03-03 21:22 < NotACow> _sj_: no, that's my blog hitcount for today, so far
2008-03-03 21:22 < NotACow> jimmy is making me rich :)
2008-03-03 21:22 < NotACow> $2.63 so far today :)
2008-03-03 21:23 < gwern> NotACow: a few thousand more of those payments and you'll be able to retire off jimbo!
2008-03-03 21:23 * NotACow thinks it's funny that she was criticized for doing original research for her own blog
2008-03-03 21:24 < Mike5> what a useless category http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Plants_described_in_the_21st_century
2008-03-03 21:24 < NotACow> Mike5: not useless, just kinda silly
2008-03-03 21:25 < Mike5> many thousands of plants have been described in the past few years
2008-03-03 21:25 < gwern> 'This may be public information. But if this were wikipedia I'd remove it as original research and a violation of privacy. ' <-- yes, a pity it is not?
2008-03-03 21:25 < NotACow> Mike5: don't diss the botany project :)
2008-03-03 21:25 < Mike5> i'm part of it
2008-03-03 21:25 < NotACow> gwern: one of the reasons i blog is that i don't have to put up with silly people telling me what i can write.
2008-03-03 21:25 < denelson83> wikif'ingslow
2008-03-03 21:26 < NotACow> gwern: blogspot will hit me with a stick if i go REALLY far out of line
2008-03-03 21:26 * gwern goes through secure.wikimedia.org/ plenty fast here
2008-03-03 21:26 < gwern> NotACow: how far would you have to go?
2008-03-03 21:26 < Daniel_Bush> I predict after March 4, if Clinton doesn't drop out on March 5, the heavy endorsements from people like Bill Richardson, John Edwards, perhaps even Al Gore, and all the others that have been waiting will come tumbling down on Obama's side
2008-03-03 21:26 < NotACow> gwern: but i have to like suggest that jerry falwell is buttfucking puppies or something
2008-03-03 21:27 < gwern> huh. [[Daniel Dennett]] edited his article while I was taking a break. how annoying
2008-03-03 21:27 < TheWeasel> There's no way Hillary is coming back now.
2008-03-03 21:27 < Daniel_Bush> Jerry Falwell is dead. Bless his "gays are going to hell, but I can do the deadly sin of gluttony all I want" heart.
2008-03-03 21:27 < gwern> NotACow: I see.
2008-03-03 21:27 < Cyrius> NotACow: so you think he's in heaven?
2008-03-03 21:27 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: that would make buttfucking puppies a bit hard, then
2008-03-03 21:27 < TheWeasel> maybe that's exactly what it takes to go to heaven
2008-03-03 21:27 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: on the other hand, it means i can't be sued for defaming him
2008-03-03 21:27 < TheWeasel> Fundies would do an excellent job then.
2008-03-03 21:28 < TheWeasel> Others have tried in vain, anyway.
2008-03-03 21:28 < _sj_> TheWeasel, you wouldn't vote for mccain:hillary in november?
2008-03-03 21:28 < NotACow> Cyrius: i don't know. i usually don't believe in heaven, but he probably did, so he might be there.
2008-03-03 21:28 < TheWeasel> i.e. Playboy ad.
2008-03-03 21:28 < TheWeasel> (Campari or something)
2008-03-03 21:28 * TheWeasel is not American
2008-03-03 21:29 < denelson83> The names of the seven deadly sins form an acrostic: "leg gaps"
2008-03-03 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> The Sun newspaper runs an anual competition for the largest object inserted into the rectum during that calender year. A prize of the weight in gold of the next stool produced after the title being awarded is presented by Rupert Murdoch.
2008-03-03 21:29 < Ceiling_Cat> --[[Rectal foreign body]]
2008-03-03 21:29 < _sj_> denelson83, you mean peg slap?
2008-03-03 21:29 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: that is terribly badly written.
2008-03-03 21:29 < denelson83> no
2008-03-03 21:30 < denelson83> How do you change a G to a P, _sj_?
2008-03-03 21:30 < IceKarma> Ceiling_Cat, bwahahahaha
2008-03-03 21:30 < gwern> an anecdote is related of a wealthy roman patrician named Lucullus and renowned for the spectacle of his spread, that one night while dining alone, his servant brought him a simple repast; he refused it, and ordered the servant to provide something more fitting: "Have you not heard? Tonight, Lucullus dines with Lucullus!"
2008-03-03 21:31 < quanticle> Huh. Apparently IE8 will use standards mode by default, just like Firefox.
2008-03-03 21:31 < NotACow> IE8?
2008-03-03 21:31 < NotACow> we just upgraded to IE7 at work!
2008-03-03 21:31 < Lubaf> Well.
2008-03-03 21:31 < gwern> internet explorer
2008-03-03 21:32 < NotACow> i'm still getting used to using it!
2008-03-03 21:32 < Ceiling_Cat> NotACow - MS is producing IE8 because IE7 is getting its ass kicked
2008-03-03 21:32 < Lubaf> Will TTN last the month, given his habits?
2008-03-03 21:32 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: yeah, ie7 sucks asspickles.
2008-03-03 21:32 < TheWeasel> I like how you can mark paragraphs less annoyingly than in opera
2008-03-03 21:32 < TheWeasel> for everything else, it doth indeed
2008-03-03 21:33 < quanticle> Given that IE7 has an unintuitive tab interface, combined with the fact that it breaks pages that work fine on IE6 and Firefox, its no surprise that IE7 is unpopular.
2008-03-03 21:33 < NotACow> quanticle: i hate their tabbing interface.
2008-03-03 21:33 < TheWeasel> the tab handling is horrible.
2008-03-03 21:33 < NotACow> i use it, but i hate it
2008-03-03 21:33 < gwern> Lubaf: good question. the second arbcom case seems to be goging against him, judging from my last view of the proposed findings
2008-03-03 21:33 * NotACow uses IE at work and firefox at home
2008-03-03 21:33 < NotACow> on my work laptop i use IE for "work" stuff and Firefox for personal stuff :)
2008-03-03 21:33 < Lubaf> gwern: He does seem to be more of a robot than an actual editor.
2008-03-03 21:34 < quanticle> I also hate how IE7 moves the refresh button away from the back/forward buttons. Its sorta expected that back/forward will also have refresh next to it. Moving the refresh button confuses a lot of users.
2008-03-03 21:35 < gwern> Lubaf: it was foolish of him to not take a break or at least moderate himself after the first case
2008-03-03 21:35 < gwern> let others pick up his torch for a while
2008-03-03 21:35 < denelson83> Put it this way: The seven deadly sins are anger, sloth, selfishness, hubris, overindulgence, lust, envy
2008-03-03 21:35 * quanticle shoves Davy-Jones back into his locker :)
2008-03-03 21:35 < NotACow> quanticle: i can never find the refresh button
2008-03-03 21:35 * gwern minds not, of course
2008-03-03 21:35 < denelson83> or "asshole" for short
2008-03-03 21:35 < Davy-Jones> haha
2008-03-03 21:35 < Lubaf> gwern: My thoughts exactly.
2008-03-03 21:35 < Cirt> hello
2008-03-03 21:35 < Chetblong> someone pinged me
2008-03-03 21:35 < Cirt> anyone here an admin?
2008-03-03 21:35 < Chetblong> me
2008-03-03 21:35 < Chetblong> an admin
2008-03-03 21:35 * denelson83 is one as well
2008-03-03 21:35 < PseudoOne> =O
2008-03-03 21:35 < NotACow> ADMINS ARE EVIL
2008-03-03 21:36 < Chetblong> Chetblong is better
2008-03-03 21:36 < NotACow> DEATH TO ADMINS
2008-03-03 21:36 < PseudoOne> y
2008-03-03 21:36 < Lubaf> gwern: Continuing on like nothing had happened after having an arbcom case pretty much about you is fairly stupid.
2008-03-03 21:36 * Chetblong wops NotACow
2008-03-03 21:36 < FastLizard4|busy> DEATH TO NOTACOW
2008-03-03 21:36 < TheWeasel> ADMINS USE ROUGE
2008-03-03 21:36 * NotACow is immortal
2008-03-03 21:36 < FastLizard4|busy> NOTACOW UNBELLYFEEL INGSOC!
2008-03-03 21:36 < quanticle> Death to NotCows
2008-03-03 21:36 < denelson83> whiskey
2008-03-03 21:36 < denelson83> tango
2008-03-03 21:36 < PseudoOne> =P
2008-03-03 21:36 < NotACow> better wikipedos than you have tried to kill me!
2008-03-03 21:36 < denelson83> foxtrot
2008-03-03 21:36 < TheWeasel> Non-cows?
2008-03-03 21:36 < NotACow> FOXTROT
2008-03-03 21:36 < FastLizard4|busy> NOTACOW UNBELIEVE BIG BROTHER!
2008-03-03 21:36 < Chetblong> hahaha
2008-03-03 21:36 < PseudoOne> ^shoulda listened to his query lol
2008-03-03 21:36 < Lubaf> FastLizard4|busy: You left out a "DOUBLEPLUS".
2008-03-03 21:36 < gwern> Lubaf: it might've been overconfidence - 'after such a slap on the wrist, nothing's going to happen again'
2008-03-03 21:37 < quanticle> FastLizard4|busy: NotACow is doubleplus ungood
2008-03-03 21:37 < PseudoOne> NotADuck
2008-03-03 21:37 < TheWeasel> lima oscar lima.
2008-03-03 21:37 * NotACow is The WikiSatan!
2008-03-03 21:37 * Chetblong is Go...
2008-03-03 21:37 < FastLizard4|busy> /msg OperServ svsnick NotACoe Goldstein
2008-03-03 21:37 * TheWeasel forgets what the word for M was
2008-03-03 21:37 < FastLizard4|busy> *NotACow
2008-03-03 21:37 < Chetblong> hahaha
2008-03-03 21:37 < quanticle> NotACow: Naw, more like the wiki Goldstein
2008-03-03 21:37 < NotACow> THE EVIL OVERLORD THAT YOU CAN EDIT (BUT IT WILL COST YOU YOUR SOUL)
2008-03-03 21:37 < Lubaf> gwern: You know what they say: The best (or, sometimes, the easiest) way to hang a man is to give him enough rope for him to do it himself.
2008-03-03 21:38 < denelson83> wikiDEAD
2008-03-03 21:38 < gwern> it wasn't a unreasonable bit of overconfidence - for your opponents to have the energy and material for two arbcom cases on the same thing is pretty rare
2008-03-03 21:39 < IceKarma> TheWeasel, "mike"
2008-03-03 21:39 < TheWeasel> Right, thanks.
2008-03-03 21:39 * Ceiling_Cat glues furry ears and whispers on IceKarma
2008-03-03 21:39 < Ceiling_Cat> (MOAR CATZ!)
2008-03-03 21:40 < TheWeasel> "advise controller on initial contact you have Mike"
2008-03-03 21:40 < Lubaf> gwern: Depends. Sometimes, if you're the obvious center of controversy, people don't have to overcome the "It's a content issue" argument again.
2008-03-03 21:40 < quanticle> gwern: He also might have thought that Wikipedia has some sort of "double jeopardy" rule, where, once he'd got off lightly the first time, he figured he wouldn't get hit for the same charge a second time.
2008-03-03 21:40 * IceKarma looks awfully silly with fake furry ears and whiskers glued on on top of her real furry ears and whiskers.
2008-03-03 21:40 < gwern> roger that, twelve o'clock high, whiskey tango foxtrot, over
2008-03-03 21:40 * Big-Brother is watching you, NotACow
2008-03-03 21:40 < Lubaf> Which makes it much easier.
2008-03-03 21:41 * Ceiling_Cat huggles IceKarma and Lubaf_cat
2008-03-03 21:41 * NotACow sets Big-Brother on fire
2008-03-03 21:41 < quanticle> Isn't Ceiling_Cat watching Big_Brother?
2008-03-03 21:41 * Big-Brother is not a person and cannot be set on fire
2008-03-03 21:41 < TheWeasel> Frequency change approved.
2008-03-03 21:41 * Big-Brother is the party
2008-03-03 21:41 * Big-Brother is INGSOC
2008-03-03 21:41 < bumm13> rw: who exactly are you talking to?
2008-03-03 21:41 < PseudoOne> =O
2008-03-03 21:41 < bumm13> oops
2008-03-03 21:41 < gwern> quanticle: reasonable. afds do have something of a double jeopardy
2008-03-03 21:41 < quanticle> Big_Brother is loved
2008-03-03 21:41 * Big-Brother is all
2008-03-03 21:41 < bumm13> (ignore that)
2008-03-03 21:41 < TheWeasel> "I don't party. I AM the party."
2008-03-03 21:41 * Big-Brother is power
2008-03-03 21:41 * Lubaf_dog bites Ceiling_Cat.
2008-03-03 21:41 < TheWeasel> "I'm not 'the life of the party'. I AM the party."
2008-03-03 21:42 < quanticle> Well, Big-Brother is the life of the party...
2008-03-03 21:42 < Big-Brother> In USA, you find the party. In Soviet Russia, the party finds you!!
2008-03-03 21:42 < quanticle> You just have to find a different meaning for "life of the party."
2008-03-03 21:42 < Ceiling_Cat> isn't that something a schizophrenic would say -- that they can be sitting all alone in a room and have a party with 20 of their closest friends?
2008-03-03 21:42 < TheWeasel> so take a good luck at my face/you'll see my smile seems out of place/if you look closer I think you can trace/the tracks of my tears
2008-03-03 21:42 < gwern> l'etat. c'est moi
2008-03-03 21:42 < PseudoOne> see ya - work
2008-03-03 21:43 < TheWeasel> In Soviet Russia, the party is the life of YOU!
2008-03-03 21:43 < quanticle> Ceiling_Cat: Schizophrenic, perhaps, and also multiple personality disorder...
2008-03-03 21:43 * Ceiling_Cat latches onto TheWeasel's smiling face
2008-03-03 21:43 < Ceiling_Cat> see also: http://surreality.info/up/Facehugger.jpg
2008-03-03 21:43 < gwern> le'cat. c'est moi <-- that could work as a lolcat
2008-03-03 21:43 * Messedrocker latches onto Ceiling_Cat
2008-03-03 21:43 * quanticle latches onto Messedrocker
2008-03-03 21:43 * Big-Brother surmises Messedrocker is a metroid and brings out the big guns
2008-03-03 21:44 * Davy-Jones slaps Big-Brother around a bit with a large trout
2008-03-03 21:44 < Messedrocker> i am immune to big guns
2008-03-03 21:44 < Messedrocker> metroids have one weakness only
2008-03-03 21:44 * quanticle shoves Davy-Jones back into his locker
2008-03-03 21:44 * NCC-1701-E locks ice phasers on target
2008-03-03 21:44 < Ceiling_Cat> Yesterday's uncyclopedia featured article: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Examples_of_Bias_in_Conservapedia
2008-03-03 21:45 < Ceiling_Cat> *hilarious*
2008-03-03 21:45 < TheWeasel> My daddy was a gun, and I'm a son of a gun
2008-03-03 21:45 < Ceiling_Cat> especially the section on Conservapedia's left wing bias
2008-03-03 21:45 < Ceiling_Cat> I nearly died laughing
2008-03-03 21:45 < TheWeasel> And I'll stick to the NRA until the battle's won.
2008-03-03 21:45 < TheWeasel> I read it, I thought it was kind of incoherent.
2008-03-03 21:46 * NCC-1701-E scans for Messedrocker
2008-03-03 21:46 * quanticle transforms into a Romulan warbird
2008-03-03 21:46 * quanticle stealths
2008-03-03 21:46 < TheWeasel> I like the article on how to troll CP
2008-03-03 21:46 * Ceiling_Cat decloaks his borg cube
2008-03-03 21:46 * Ceiling_Cat locks onto NCC-1701-E with a tractor beam
2008-03-03 21:47 * NCC-1701-E fires transphasic quantum torpedoes
2008-03-03 21:47 * Davy-Jones is back in his locker
2008-03-03 21:47 * NCC-1701-E activates phased cloaking
2008-03-03 21:48 < Ceiling_Cat> BRB
2008-03-03 21:48 * quanticle readies subspace weapons
2008-03-03 21:48 * quanticle fires
2008-03-03 21:48 * NCC-1701-E activates transwarp drive
2008-03-03 21:48 * NCC-1701-E acheives warp factor 10
2008-03-03 21:49 < Crimedog> Doesnt warp 10 mean you're everywhere in the universe at the same time?
2008-03-03 21:49 < NCC-1701-E> WF 10 = Infinite velocity
2008-03-03 21:49 < gwern> 'Uncyclopedia, despite being a parody of Wikipedia, supports much of the same material that Wikipedia does. Its lack of standards results in an obviously liberal stance, and much of their humor is directed at Christian and Conservative values. In particular, their article on Conservapedia is composed mostly of hate speech, labelling Conservatives as "retards". In addition, they attack creationism via a "pro-creationist" article, which mocks ...
2008-03-03 21:49 < gwern> ... creationism by phrases like "evolution will get you sent straight to hell" and "Darwin was a **** Satanist".
2008-03-03 21:50 * NCC-1701-E slows to 3/4 impulse
2008-03-03 21:50 * NCC-1701-E fires on quanticle's vessel
2008-03-03 21:50 * quanticle dodges
2008-03-03 21:50 * quanticle looses subspace torpedoes
2008-03-03 21:50 < Daniel_Bush> I can't remember Uncyclopedia making me laugh even twice
2008-03-03 21:50 < NotACow> DEATH TO NUCLEAR WESSELS
2008-03-03 21:50 * NCC-1701-E readies transphasic torpedoes
2008-03-03 21:50 < Daniel_Bush> Once for kitten huffing and that was it
2008-03-03 21:50 < quanticle> Heh. Always trust a Romulan to fire illegal weapons
2008-03-03 21:50 < TheWeasel> NotACow: [[Horst Wessel]] ?
2008-03-03 21:50 * NCC-1701-E locks weapons onto quanticle
2008-03-03 21:51 * quanticle cloaks
2008-03-03 21:51 * NCC-1701-E fires based on quanticle's last known position
2008-03-03 21:51 * NCC-1701-E warps off
2008-03-03 21:51 < Crimedog> [[Treknobabble]]
2008-03-03 21:51 < TheWeasel> quant follows Heisenberg's principle
2008-03-03 21:51 < TheWeasel> so the bullet will miss.
2008-03-03 21:52 * NCC-1701-E enters quantum slipstream
2008-03-03 21:52 < quanticle> Well, not necessarily
2008-03-03 21:52 < quanticle> The bullet has a probability of missing, even if its perfectly aimed.
2008-03-03 21:52 < TheWeasel> not necessarily, because you can draw a cloud
2008-03-03 21:52 < TheWeasel> yea
2008-03-03 21:53 < quanticle> That doesn't mean that the bullet will deterministically miss, just as it means that the bullet will not deterministically hit.
2008-03-03 21:53 < Crimedog> Quentum slipstream, wrong series. Andromeda
2008-03-03 21:53 < TheWeasel> OLD PRICE: $19 NEW PRICE: $19 YOU SAVE: NOTHING, ONLY JESUS SAVES
2008-03-03 21:53 * NotACow hits quanticle deterministically.
2008-03-03 21:53 < NCC-1701-E> quantum slipstream is Star Trek
2008-03-03 21:54 < Crimedog> Oh yea that's right. It was used in a few episodes of VOY
2008-03-03 21:54 < Crimedog> but it's better known from "Andromeda"
2008-03-03 21:55 < Daniel_Bush> There are too many Star Trek episodes where Kirk teaches an alien woman about Earth love by making out with her
2008-03-03 21:56 < Crimedog> The folk singer and songwriter Voltaire often writes songs about Star Trek, as he is a fan of the show. One song, "The U.S.S. Make-Shit-Up", is dedicated to Treknobabble and its inanity.