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2008-03-03 16:29 < Daniel_Bush> In this case U.S. Attorneys being fired for not investigating Republicans when they thought it was unnecessary, and the inverse for Democrats
2008-03-03 16:29 * TheWeasel thinks it's kind of frightening how lacking the US political system is in the basic trust between camps
2008-03-03 16:30 < seoul> are they taking over the Intraweebs?
2008-03-03 16:30 < TheWeasel> and how ethics cannot be truly reformed for fear of the other camp using that to get a permanent advantage
2008-03-03 16:32 < TheWeasel> Hm... maybe Obama is needed after all.
2008-03-03 16:32 < quanticle> TheWeasel: The nature of the US political system also explains a lot of US foreign policy. Simply put, a lot of our policies regarding "rogue" regimes like N. Korea or Iran don't change because one side is afraid of looking weak.
2008-03-03 16:33 < mexicanbanana> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP <-- No criticism section? How is that possible?
2008-03-03 16:33 < quanticle> Its because mediawiki is coded in PHP ;)
2008-03-03 16:33 < TheWeasel> {{sofixit}}
2008-03-03 16:33 < TheWeasel> yea, being wrong is being bold, being obstinately wrong is "providing strong leadership"
2008-03-03 16:33 < Daniel_Bush> Iraq opened up diplomatic relations with Iran in a face-to-face meeting among leaders way before we ever will
2008-03-03 16:34 < Daniel_Bush> That's progress, I guess
2008-03-03 16:34 < mexicanbanana> For some reason, at this point, I expect an article like PHP to have a criticism section if it is allowed to be there.
2008-03-03 16:34 < TheWeasel> being right after a history of being wrong is flip-flopping
2008-03-03 16:34 < mexicanbanana> I am pretty sure somebody has censored it or something.
2008-03-03 16:35 < TheWeasel> there is no censorship (except in Jimbo-related biographies)
2008-03-03 16:35 < Daniel_Bush> Are you defending Mitt Romney, TheWeasel?
2008-03-03 16:35 < TheWeasel> I'm just commenting on the silly fear of changing one's mind based on intake of new information.
2008-03-03 16:36 < Daniel_Bush> Mitt Romney said during one debate that he "doesn't call McCain's immigration policy outright amnesty," then the moderator says, "but this ad..." then the ad plays in which the narrator says McCain's immigration plan is amnesty, and then Romney says "I don't recall seeing that one"
2008-03-03 16:36 < TheWeasel> haha, yea.
2008-03-03 16:36 < Daniel_Bush> but in the ad, he says "I'm Mitt Romney, and I approve this message"
2008-03-03 16:36 < TheWeasel> like one football coach in England said
2008-03-03 16:37 < TheWeasel> "I never insult a referee, and I'm not going to make an exception for this wanker."
2008-03-03 16:40 < quanticle> Daniel_Bush: Given that Iran killed a hell of a lot more Iraqis than Americans, yeah, I'd definitely say its progress.
2008-03-03 16:41 < Daniel_Bush> Except the Bush administration can't claim it to be progress when they won't do it themselves
2008-03-03 16:42 < TheWeasel> Last time I checked they were scared as hell of Tehran getting a foot in the Baghdad door officially.
2008-03-03 16:45 < Chetblong_> test
2008-03-03 16:45 < bumm13> Jimbo-wails: please change your nick
2008-03-03 16:46 < Jimbo-wails> hold on one sec
2008-03-03 16:46 < Chetblong2> there
2008-03-03 16:46 < Chetblong2> I'm trying to test somthing
2008-03-03 16:46 < bumm13> ah :)
2008-03-03 16:48 < bumm13> hiya Demi
2008-03-03 16:49 < Demi> hi bumm13
2008-03-03 16:50 < lotug> :)
2008-03-03 16:55 < TheWeasel> Heh, the Czech foreign minister is called Schwarzenberg
2008-03-03 16:55 < TheWeasel> you'd expect them to Czechify that
2008-03-03 16:55 < TheWeasel> to something like Svartzenberk
2008-03-03 16:56 < TheWeasel> Svarzenberk, rather
2008-03-03 16:57 < TheWeasel> cause "tz" is only found in German and maybe Basque
2008-03-03 16:57 < NotACow> zarf.
2008-03-03 16:59 < Messedrocker> hmm
2008-03-03 16:59 < Messedrocker> i shall go on a mission
2008-03-03 16:59 < Messedrocker> to buy up a whole bunch of xp licenses
2008-03-03 16:59 < TheWeasel> that's licentious.
2008-03-03 16:59 < Messedrocker> and expensiver
2008-03-03 17:00 < Demi> xtremely
2008-03-03 17:00 < Messedrocker> how much can you get a bulk license for?
2008-03-03 17:02 < NotACow> ha!
2008-03-03 17:02 < NotACow> jimmy's wild fling has made me $3.99 richer!
2008-03-03 17:03 < Demi> buy yourself something purty
2008-03-03 17:03 < eth01> where from?
2008-03-03 17:03 < NotACow> eth01: google
2008-03-03 17:03 < eth01> you can buy licenses for $4?
2008-03-03 17:04 < Gracenotes> ads
2008-03-03 17:04 < Faustus_Cat> driving license? i got mine for a year for $4 today :D
2008-03-03 17:05 < Demi> i driver's license that lasts for a year sounds like a pain
2008-03-03 17:05 < Demi> "a driver's..."
2008-03-03 17:05 < bumm13> I just got my new tabs in the mail today :)
2008-03-03 17:06 < bumm13> (well, "tab")
2008-03-03 17:06 < Faustus_Cat> Demi: international student thats y.
2008-03-03 17:07 < Faustus_Cat> *why
2008-03-03 17:07 < ggreer> I still haven't gotten plates for my bike
2008-03-03 17:08 < ggreer> I'm really surprised no cops have pulled me over
2008-03-03 17:08 < Faustus_Cat> where u at?
2008-03-03 17:08 < ggreer> california
2008-03-03 17:08 < Faustus_Cat> lol somehow thats what i was thinking
2008-03-03 17:08 < Faustus_Cat> try doing that in SC
2008-03-03 17:08 < ggreer> I'd bet around 50% of people who ride have run from the cops at some point
2008-03-03 17:09 < Faustus_Cat> just 50?
2008-03-03 17:09 < Faustus_Cat> ok RUN from the cops
2008-03-03 17:09 * bumm13 brushes his teeth
2008-03-03 17:09 < Faustus_Cat> 50?? that much??
2008-03-03 17:09 < ggreer> yes
2008-03-03 17:09 < ggreer> and almost all of them get away
2008-03-03 17:09 < ggreer> because bikes are fast
2008-03-03 17:09 < ElbridgeGerry> Jeez, Digg's becoming a tabloid rag on this whole Jimbo thing/
2008-03-03 17:09 < ElbridgeGerry> *.
2008-03-03 17:09 < Faustus_Cat> oh yeah
2008-03-03 17:10 < ggreer> unless you get chased by a CHP officer you're pretty much guaranteed a clean getaway
2008-03-03 17:10 < Faustus_Cat> my pic came out looking like middle eastern hells angels on the license today
2008-03-03 17:11 < quanticle> ElbridgeGerry: Since when has Digg not been a tabloid rag?
2008-03-03 17:11 < ElbridgeGerry> quanticle: True, I find myself using reddit more nowadays
2008-03-03 17:13 < Daniel_Bush> I think Wikipedia will be better off when people that have been associated with its miscellaneous past controversies no longer have involvement in Wikimedia
2008-03-03 17:14 < Demi> we need all-knew controversies
2008-03-03 17:14 < Demi> "all-new"
2008-03-03 17:14 < Demi> ("all-knew"? wtf is that?)
2008-03-03 17:14 < Faustus_Cat> lol
2008-03-03 17:15 < ElbridgeGerry> Yeah, these old controversies are getting stale.
2008-03-03 17:15 < ElbridgeGerry> Jimbo needs to stab someone.
2008-03-03 17:15 < Daniel_Bush> Right, and then we can boot the new people out of office, too
2008-03-03 17:15 < Daniel_Bush> like we do with our elected officials
2008-03-03 17:15 < ElbridgeGerry> ...With a knife, this time.
2008-03-03 17:15 < gwern> all-knew that Hitler was a controversial topic
2008-03-03 17:15 < TheWeasel> ...on wheels
2008-03-03 17:15 * TheWeasel HATES the word "controversial"
2008-03-03 17:15 < gwern> we could make chickens the controversy. We could follow Ryan North's plan and cede [[Chicken]] to the vandals
2008-03-03 17:16 < Ral315> TheWeasel, I'd think you'd like it, since it's a weasel word.
2008-03-03 17:16 < Demi> "all-knew" is the new "SOLLOG knew". New. GNU. Whatever.
2008-03-03 17:16 < gwern> cauze dudes already know 'bout chickens
2008-03-03 17:16 < Daniel_Bush> "You all saw it! The orphanage attacked me first! I had to kill it to save myself...and save the orphanage from itself."
2008-03-03 17:16 < TheWeasel> yea, I'm self-hating.
2008-03-03 17:16 < Faustus_Cat> Ral315++
2008-03-03 17:16 < gwern> a gnu world order
2008-03-03 17:16 < Demi> TheWeasel - it's not such a bad word, it's just so misused and overused
2008-03-03 17:16 < ElbridgeGerry> "depends on what the meaning of 'is' is" - Jimbo Clinton
2008-03-03 17:17 * TheWeasel hasn't been able to watch an hour of American news television without seeing or hearing it.
2008-03-03 17:18 < TheWeasel> mostly to boost some statement's relevance
2008-03-03 17:18 < TheWeasel> or some tidbit's relevance
2008-03-03 17:19 < ElbridgeGerry> I frigging hate Valleywag.
2008-03-03 17:19 < Demi> yes, and it's a cover for saying something substantive or calling a spade a spade
2008-03-03 17:19 < Gracenotes> it Wikipedia somewhat slow for anyone else?
2008-03-03 17:19 < Demi> Someone isn't a "right-wing demagogue", they're a "controversial figure"
2008-03-03 17:20 < ElbridgeGerry> Demi, no, they're a "maverick"
2008-03-03 17:21 < Daniel_Bush> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rachel_Marsden/GFDL_History Wait
2008-03-03 17:21 < Daniel_Bush> Why were all these edits purged
2008-03-03 17:22 < Daniel_Bush> I thought Oversight was only to be for personal information being in the article
2008-03-03 17:22 < Daniel_Bush> and WP:OFFICE for libel
2008-03-03 17:22 < Daniel_Bush> Oh, well
2008-03-03 17:23 < TheWeasel> It's no coincidence that "controversial" and "contrived" start with the same letters :-P
2008-03-03 17:24 < Demi> and "contraband"
2008-03-03 17:24 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: because that was jimmy's girlfriend! duh!
2008-03-03 17:24 < Demi> and "cointreau". almost.
2008-03-03 17:25 < TheWeasel> This is a chance to dance yourself/out of your con(s)trictions
2008-03-03 17:25 < Daniel_Bush> Is David Gerard or Goerheardt or whatever his name was still working for Wikimedia UK
2008-03-03 17:25 < Mike_H> Gerard. He isn't German.
2008-03-03 17:25 < Mike_H> I don't think.
2008-03-03 17:26 < Demi> even worse, he's australian
2008-03-03 17:26 < ElbridgeGerry> Looks like Arrington of TechCrunch is sticking up for Jimmy: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/02/when-will-we-have-our-first-valleywag-suicide/
2008-03-03 17:27 < Demi> i hope nobody exposes my sexy IMs
2008-03-03 17:28 < ElbridgeGerry> Demi, I've been avoiding Congressional pages like the plague
2008-03-03 17:28 < TheWeasel> [04:07] deminator says: AND THEN PEANUT BUTTER, ALL OVER.
2008-03-03 17:28 < TheWeasel> :-P
2008-03-03 17:28 < Demi> ElbridgeGerry - because of your sexy IMs?
2008-03-03 17:28 < ElbridgeGerry> Demi: Because of yours. =O
2008-03-03 17:29 < Demi> oh i see
2008-03-03 17:29 < Mike_H> So my first Western Union use went off without a hitch
2008-03-03 17:29 < Mike_H> I was afraid it would
2008-03-03 17:30 < Demi> are you buying asians over the internet or something?
2008-03-03 17:30 < bumm13> heh
2008-03-03 17:30 < Mike_H> I was afraid it wouldn't
2008-03-03 17:30 < Mike_H> heh
2008-03-03 17:30 < ElbridgeGerry> Demi: He's buying Fox News anchors
2008-03-03 17:30 < Mike_H> with $80?
2008-03-03 17:30 * TheWeasel buys Sushi online
2008-03-03 17:30 < TheWeasel> BUT SUSHI IS OVER 21!
2008-03-03 17:31 < Demi> i wired like $250 to some guy in ukraine once
2008-03-03 17:31 < Golbez> Evidence found in computers seized in a raid over the weekend suggests that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez recently gave the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia $300 million, Colombia's national police chief said Monday.
2008-03-03 17:31 < Golbez> that doesn't sound like good news to me.
2008-03-03 17:31 * bumm13 NP: Five Americans - Western Union (1967)
2008-03-03 17:31 < Demi> it felt like a very high-risk transaction
2008-03-03 17:31 < bumm13> (this song isn't about wiring funds, of course, but I digress)
2008-03-03 17:31 < bumm13> wiring money is always risky
2008-03-03 17:31 < Mike_H> oh, is that who sings it
2008-03-03 17:31 < Golbez> i might consider that a casus belli
2008-03-03 17:31 < Mike_H> for some reason I have it down under "Gary Puckett and the Union Gap"
2008-03-03 17:31 < bumm13> oh gawd no
2008-03-03 17:32 < Demi> Golbez - ah, but what about hugo chavez's sexy IMs?
2008-03-03 17:32 < Demi> my analysis: These are in Spanish!
2008-03-03 17:32 < Daniel_Bush> So from what I understand, Colombia thinks Venezuela has been giving money to the RAFC, and also that the RAFC has been bribing Ecuador into letting them keep their base there
2008-03-03 17:32 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-03 17:32 < bumm13> my mom used to have their greatest hits on cassette
2008-03-03 17:32 < Mike_H> The Western Union Company (NYSE: WU) is a financial services and communications company based in the United States. Its North American headquarters is in Greenwood Village, Colorado, and its international marketing and commercial services headquarters are in Montvale, New Jersey.
2008-03-03 17:32 * Ceiling_Cat glues pointy ears and whiskers to TheWeasel
2008-03-03 17:32 < Mike_H> Until it discontinued the service, this company was the best known US company in the business of exchanging telegrams.
2008-03-03 17:32 < Ryan_wp> Ceiling_Cat: My cat just walked in :)
2008-03-03 17:32 < Golbez> Daniel_Bush- why say RAFC? FARC is so much more well-known, AND rolls off the tongue. =p
2008-03-03 17:32 < bumm13> =^o.o^=
2008-03-03 17:33 < Mike_H> Western Union discontinued telegrams in January 2006.
2008-03-03 17:33 < NotACow> yup
2008-03-03 17:33 < Daniel_Bush> Come to think of it, why is there a "gossip website" on the Internet for Silicon Valley, anyway? Have they run out of celebrities already?
2008-03-03 17:33 < Demi> yeah, i remember offering a :( when you told me that
2008-03-03 17:33 < Mike_H> Daniel_Bush: that's a pretty loose interpretation of celebrity
2008-03-03 17:33 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: because techies are fun to watch
2008-03-03 17:33 < NotACow> they're so bizarre!
2008-03-03 17:33 < Mike_H> I mean, Katherine Heigl does a lot of stupid shit, just focus on her
2008-03-03 17:34 < Golbez> I don't mind focusing on Katherine's Heigls.
2008-03-03 17:34 < Demi> NotACow - i worked for a company run by Tom Jermoluk
2008-03-03 17:34 < Daniel_Bush> After they run out of Silicon Valley personalities, who will they focus on next?
2008-03-03 17:34 < NotACow> sometimes tehy even have sex!
2008-03-03 17:34 < ElbridgeGerry> I'm going to bid on Jimmy's clothes.
2008-03-03 17:34 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush: republicans
2008-03-03 17:34 < Mike_H> Golbez: God.
2008-03-03 17:34 < Golbez> :>
2008-03-03 17:34 < ElbridgeGerry> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290211080891
2008-03-03 17:34 < Demi> Mike_H - i like katherine heigl, what stupid things has she done?
2008-03-03 17:34 < NotACow> $500. heh
2008-03-03 17:34 < Faustus_Cat> Demi: acted?
2008-03-03 17:34 < Mike_H> Demi: Oh, on Television Without Pity they hate her
2008-03-03 17:34 < Demi> ptttht
2008-03-03 17:34 < Mike_H> and they like, tear up everything she says or does
2008-03-03 17:35 < Daniel_Bush> I think they'll start spying on botanists, mathematicians, geologists, and astronomers
2008-03-03 17:35 < Mike_H> their biggest insult for her is that she has knock knees
2008-03-03 17:35 < NotACow> the t-shirt is at $700
2008-03-03 17:35 < Mike_H> and I haven't even heard anyone use that term in the time I've been alive
2008-03-03 17:35 < Demi> scientists can be pretty interesting to gossip about, actually
2008-03-03 17:35 < Faustus_Cat> whats knock knees
2008-03-03 17:35 < Mike_H> I read about it, from the 1920s and stuff
2008-03-03 17:35 < bumm13> "Money wire, she did not pay....You've learned you lesson all the way, hey."
2008-03-03 17:35 < Demi> and they compeletly do, even if not in public on the internet
2008-03-03 17:35 < bumm13> *your
2008-03-03 17:35 < Daniel_Bush> They'll plant bugs in the Professor of Anthropology at Harvard University and watch him all day like the Paparazzi does
2008-03-03 17:35 * bumm13 updates the lyrics to "Western Union" ;)
2008-03-03 17:35 < Daniel_Bush> I mean in the office of...that guy
2008-03-03 17:36 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-03 17:37 < Daniel_Bush> I don't think #wikipedia needs more cats
2008-03-03 17:37 * Ceiling_Cat puts a cat costume on tawker
2008-03-03 17:37 < tawker> hiya Raul
2008-03-03 17:37 < Ceiling_Cat> hello tawker
2008-03-03 17:37 < Daniel_Bush> and your username is an embarrassment at best. At least slap some random word next to a number like bumm13 does
2008-03-03 17:37 < ElbridgeGerry> "She complained more, and he passed that along again, without explicitly specifying that now the conflict of interest was with his penis." - Filament
2008-03-03 17:37 < Daniel_Bush> like "sandwich027"
2008-03-03 17:37 * tawker thinks he lost Tawker|Purring nick
2008-03-03 17:37 < Ryan_wp> *meow!*
2008-03-03 17:37 * Floor_Feline huggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-03-03 17:38 * Ceiling_Cat huggles Floor_Feline
2008-03-03 17:38 < Cyrius> /join #catpedia
2008-03-03 17:38 < Ceiling_Cat> oh noes
2008-03-03 17:38 < Ceiling_Cat> another contributor died :(
2008-03-03 17:38 * Floor_Feline huggles Daniel_Bush especially
2008-03-03 17:38 < Cyrius> who?
2008-03-03 17:38 < Ceiling_Cat> [[User:Oryanw]]
2008-03-03 17:38 < Floor_Feline> Cyrius: don't fork!
2008-03-03 17:38 < Cyrius> fork you
2008-03-03 17:39 < Demi> sandwich027 was a great guy
2008-03-03 17:40 < ElbridgeGerry> THIS JUST IN! A Vallewag exclusive: Jimbo Wales is fucking Matt Damon!
2008-03-03 17:40 < Mike_H> Ceiling_Cat: Call me when it's a contributor I knew about
2008-03-03 17:40 < Demi> ElbridgeGerry - seems like i haven't seen you around in a while
2008-03-03 17:40 < Ral315> Mike_H: You would know him if you spoke Esperanto, you insensitive clod!
2008-03-03 17:40 < Ceiling_Cat> Mike_H - user:Dalf
2008-03-03 17:40 < Mike_H> Ral315: I speak real languages thank you
2008-03-03 17:40 < Daniel_Bush> And that's when I said to him, "If we're going to get a bullet into this guy's brain, we're going to have to use a little finesse." So I tampered with the DNA evidence
2008-03-03 17:40 < Ral315> Mike_H, :)
2008-03-03 17:40 < Mike_H> :)
2008-03-03 17:41 < Daniel_Bush> Sorry, wrong channel
2008-03-03 17:41 < ElbridgeGerry> ElbridgeGerry: I haven't been around in a while. Campaign got into the busy months, etc.
2008-03-03 17:41 < Demi> Daniel_Bush - that was interesting, though
2008-03-03 17:41 < Mike_H> Demi: Yeah, it was very Murder, She Wrote
2008-03-03 17:41 < Demi> obviously whoever else you were talking to is more exciting than we are
2008-03-03 17:41 < Ceiling_Cat> Ral315 - The signpost has too few CATZ
2008-03-03 17:41 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ PLZ
2008-03-03 17:41 < Mike_H> Demi: He's talking to JessicaFletcher
2008-03-03 17:41 * Ryan_wp hates how Windows Vista won't let him make a shortcut on the desktop for irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia
2008-03-03 17:41 * Proud_Cat calls dibs on the front page
2008-03-03 17:41 < ElbridgeGerry> Demi: Eh, not really.
2008-03-03 17:41 < Mike_H> her Windows 3.1 trusty computer has finally been upgraded to 95.
2008-03-03 17:42 < Demi> this business with jimbo/marsden makes me feel vaguely sad
2008-03-03 17:42 < ElbridgeGerry> Demi: But I get paid to talk to those people.
2008-03-03 17:42 < Proud_Cat> Demi: not getting enough?
2008-03-03 17:42 < Ryan_wp> Ceiling_Cat: *meow* :)
2008-03-03 17:42 < Demi> ElbridgeGerry - i was was replying to Daniel_Bush about his mav
2008-03-03 17:42 < ElbridgeGerry> Demi: Oh, heh.
2008-03-03 17:42 < NotACow> ElbridgeGerry: jimbo hasn't tred to protect matt damon's article, has he?
2008-03-03 17:42 * Ceiling_Cat picks up Ryan_wp_cat and pets him liberally
2008-03-03 17:42 < Demi> Proud_Cat - well, never, of course; but just in general
2008-03-03 17:42 * Ryan_wp purrs
2008-03-03 17:42 < Ceiling_Cat> NotACow - huh?
2008-03-03 17:42 < ElbridgeGerry> Also, I got into a relationship, so yay for me.
2008-03-03 17:42 < Demi> for me "not getting enough" means "i am not having sex right now"
2008-03-03 17:42 < NotACow> Ceiling_Cat: just commenting on elbridgegerry's comment above
2008-03-03 17:43 < Mike_H> Demi: I've gone past not getting "enough" straight to "not getting any"
2008-03-03 17:43 < Ceiling_Cat> oh
2008-03-03 17:43 * Proud_Cat counts the months....
2008-03-03 17:43 < Demi> Mike_H - :(
2008-03-03 17:43 < Demi> Mike_H - just watch where your sexy IMs go
2008-03-03 17:44 < Mike_H> Demi: Well, I haven't arranged any 24 hour marathon sex trysts yet
2008-03-03 17:44 < Mike_H> so I think I'm safe
2008-03-03 17:44 < ElbridgeGerry> I haven't edited in forever, honestly.
2008-03-03 17:44 < Mike_H> I couldn't even go for 12 hours.
2008-03-03 17:44 < Demi> i feel sad that the practice of sexy IMing is so fraught
2008-03-03 17:44 < Mike_H> God, what was he on, Centrum? Geritol? What?
2008-03-03 17:44 < Demi> if you're not being embarrassed by rachel marsden you're being caught by dateline
2008-03-03 17:45 < ElbridgeGerry> I'll bet some news network will have this story soon.
2008-03-03 17:45 < Mike_H> I'd say in less than a week
2008-03-03 17:45 < Mike_H> especially now that The Register has published it
2008-03-03 17:45 < Ceiling_Cat> OH NO!
2008-03-03 17:45 < Ceiling_Cat> Chris Hansen!
2008-03-03 17:45 * Ceiling_Cat shoots self
2008-03-03 17:45 < Ceiling_Cat> (*Apologies to south park fans*)
2008-03-03 17:45 < Demi> i saw a segment of that show, and i actually felt kind of bad for the "pedophile" in question
2008-03-03 17:45 < Ral315> The CBC has it online.
2008-03-03 17:46 < Demi> i mean, also disgusted but, even the "fake" girl identity was supposedly 13 or 14, which is gross but isn't quite the same as a 10-year-old, you know? and they "met", and the woman was short but obviously not a little girl.
2008-03-03 17:46 < Demi> i dunno, the whole thing makes me feel bad.
2008-03-03 17:46 < Demi> i feel bad about the human condition today
2008-03-03 17:46 < Ceiling_Cat> Demi - 10 will getcha 5, and 5 will getcha 20
2008-03-03 17:46 < Mike_H> "It was a retirement home. And what do they do? They set off the fire alarm in a retirement home. Who can rush? Half the people have walkers. The other half can't get out of their chairs. But they got fire alarms going off like crazy. You know what that does to hearts that only beat a few times a week? It's not pretty." -Sophia Petrillo
2008-03-03 17:47 < bumm13> zomg flood!
2008-03-03 17:47 < Demi> Ceiling_Cat - six of one, half a dozen of the other
2008-03-03 17:47 < ElbridgeGerry> CALL NOAH
2008-03-03 17:47 < tawker> btw Ceiling_Cat your pic in the movie
2008-03-03 17:47 < tawker> was the gfdl in the end
2008-03-03 17:47 < Demi> i sort of have a problem with arresting people for prospective crimes, too
2008-03-03 17:48 < Daniel_Bush> Okay, we'll change the meeting place to avoid the ones that were told to meet at the rendezvous point. /join #nothingtoseehere
2008-03-03 17:48 < Daniel_Bush> Crap
2008-03-03 17:48 < Ceiling_Cat> 3 people have died in police custody after being featured on to catch a predator
2008-03-03 17:49 < bumm13> died??
2008-03-03 17:49 < Demi> Ceiling_Cat - oh aye? i didn't know that, it seems like a lot
2008-03-03 17:49 < Demi> it's a pretty suicide-friendly setup, i have to say
2008-03-03 17:50 < gwern> so, any GPL experts handy right now?
2008-03-03 17:51 < Daniel_Bush> We're going to have to report ElbridgeGerry to Syndicate headquarters
2008-03-03 17:51 * Daniel_Bush cocks a machine gun
2008-03-03 17:51 < Daniel_Bush> and take him out
2008-03-03 17:51 < Starnestommy> I'm not a GPL expert, but I know how it works
2008-03-03 17:51 < ElbridgeGerry> Daniel_Bush: I saw nothin', Doc! Nothin', I swear!
2008-03-03 17:51 < gwern> Starnestommy: mm, so do I, but I have a tricksome situation
2008-03-03 17:52 < Daniel_Bush> You'll be wearin' concrete galoshes when we're through with you
2008-03-03 17:52 * Doc_glasgow jumps
2008-03-03 17:52 < Doc_glasgow> someone said Doc!
2008-03-03 17:52 < gwern> You'll be scuba-diving with the fishes, mate!
2008-03-03 17:52 < Daniel_Bush> Except you won't have an air tank...
2008-03-03 17:52 < gwern> we'll make you take a short stroll on a long pier, capsice?
2008-03-03 17:53 < Demi> you're going to be installing a roof with substandard safety equipment, if you know what i mean
2008-03-03 17:53 < ElbridgeGerry> You have ta let me go, guys! I didn't see any caba - ...whoops.
2008-03-03 17:53 < ggreer> Ceiling_Cat: I don't see how it's not entrapment or fraud or something
2008-03-03 17:53 < ggreer> it seems like a sleazy way to catch sleazy people
2008-03-03 17:54 < Ceiling_Cat> ggreer - it's sleazy, but not quite entrapment
2008-03-03 17:54 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11131562/
2008-03-03 17:55 < Demi> wow, i thought, "wtf is that, some kind of 'why is it not entrapment?!' link" and sho 'nuff
2008-03-03 17:55 * Mike_H got to have faith
2008-03-03 17:55 < Mike_H> faith
2008-03-03 17:55 < Mike_H> faith-a
2008-03-03 17:55 < ElbridgeGerry> <--- Leaving, bye all.
2008-03-03 17:56 < Mike_H> Demi: Did I ask you the out of touch question?
2008-03-03 17:56 < Demi> i don't know
2008-03-03 17:56 < Mike_H> Demi: '80s question
2008-03-03 17:56 < Demi> i suppose not, unless i missed it
2008-03-03 17:56 < Mike_H> If you're out of touch
2008-03-03 17:56 < Mike_H> what am I?
2008-03-03 17:57 < Demi> sorry, nothing
2008-03-03 17:57 < Mike_H> nothing what?
2008-03-03 17:57 < Mike_H> you're out of touch
2008-03-03 17:57 < Mike_H> I'm ___ __ ____
2008-03-03 17:57 < ggreer> http://www.speedtest.net/result/241739277.png
2008-03-03 17:57 < ggreer> 50 miles more like 50 meters
2008-03-03 17:58 < ggreer> I think the speed limit is the wifi network
2008-03-03 17:58 < Mike_H> Demi: It isn't that hard, six other people who grew up in the '80s got it right
2008-03-03 17:58 < Mike_H> and so will you if you just think about it
2008-03-03 17:58 < Demi> out of time?
2008-03-03 17:58 < Mike_H> ding ding ding
2008-03-03 17:59 < Mike_H> lucky seven :DD
2008-03-03 17:59 < Demi> hehe
2008-03-03 17:59 * Mike_H NP: Hall & Oates - Out of Touch (1984)
2008-03-03 17:59 < Mike_H> Demi: cimon is the only one who got it wrong, and I just don't think they got their music over in Finland
2008-03-03 17:59 < Mike_H> But I asked Americans, Britons, Australians, they all got it right to
2008-03-03 17:59 < Mike_H> *too
2008-03-03 18:00 < Mike_H> Demi: I may be out of time
2008-03-03 18:00 < Mike_H> but I go out of my head when you're not around
2008-03-03 18:00 < Mike_H> whoa whoa
2008-03-03 18:00 < Mike_H> whoa whoa.
2008-03-03 18:00 < ggreer> wtf are you talking about, some song?
2008-03-03 18:01 < Mike_H> Yes, get with the program
2008-03-03 18:01 * Ryan_wp yawns
2008-03-03 18:01 < Daniel_Bush> If I were really in a conspiracy to lodge a bullet in someone's brain and tamper with the DNA evidence, I would do it in a public place, but talk in code
2008-03-03 18:02 < Daniel_Bush> like "Alpha blender four score boulevard, to force Mars inside through tripolyphosphate."
2008-03-03 18:03 < Demi> i would say things like "last week's lost was sure disappointing" but it would actually mean "i left $13,000 in cash for the guidance system under the rock in golden gate park"
2008-03-03 18:05 < Daniel_Bush> Skies won't be clear enough for astronomy until around the 13th
2008-03-03 18:05 < gwern> Demi: heck of a compression there
2008-03-03 18:05 < gwern> reminds me of the bad dubs of japanese movies
2008-03-03 18:06 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.bebo.com/PhotoAlbumBig.jsp?PhotoNbr=1&MemberId=2872980&PhotoAlbumId=6435714234
2008-03-03 18:06 * Ceiling_Cat lulz
2008-03-03 18:07 < Golbez> "Re-addition of page deleted by grossly Physics-ignorant Administrator Delete-jockies" guys i think this bogdanoff guy means business
2008-03-03 18:08 < Demi> ah, bogdanoffs again?
2008-03-03 18:08 < gwern> some would have it that it is the bogdanoff brothers who are grossly ignorant
2008-03-03 18:08 < Golbez> Demi- it appears. when you google "sub-planck", at least one paper drafted by the Bogdanoffs comes up
2008-03-03 18:08 < Ral315> Wow, I haven't heard about the Bogdanoffs since late 2005.
2008-03-03 18:08 < Golbez> and the guy trying to get sub-planck on the pedia has taken to calling us "wikifascists"
2008-03-03 18:09 < lucasbfr> Ral315: igor and griska? :D
2008-03-03 18:09 < Ral315> Indeed.
2008-03-03 18:09 < lucasbfr> still on TV here ><
2008-03-03 18:09 < Golbez> User:Physicman123
2008-03-03 18:09 < Ral315> I was writing the Arbitration report for the Signpost at the time, if I recall correctly.
2008-03-03 18:09 < Mike_H> lucasbfr: you need to get some good quality TV
2008-03-03 18:09 < Mike_H> like Big Brother
2008-03-03 18:09 < lucasbfr> LOL
2008-03-03 18:09 < Mike_H> and America's Next Top Model
2008-03-03 18:09 < gwern> we banned the bogdanoffs and their puppets
2008-03-03 18:09 < gwern> no reason not to do the same thing here...
2008-03-03 18:10 < bumm13> :p
2008-03-03 18:10 < Golbez> no proof he's a bog or a sock but he's certainly acting like one
2008-03-03 18:14 < yamanbaiia> i can't stop reading jimbo's "sex chats"
2008-03-03 18:14 < Golbez> yes you can
2008-03-03 18:15 < yamanbaiia> i don't know if i want to
2008-03-03 18:15 < yamanbaiia> they are friggging hilarious
2008-03-03 18:15 < ctan> anyone know where i can find a high res or svg version of the wikipedia logo?
2008-03-03 18:15 < mavhc> and pgp signed, so you know they're real
2008-03-03 18:15 < Demi> it's easy to stop, because there don't seem to be very many of them
2008-03-03 18:17 < mavhc> new rule: don't believe anything that's not pgp signed
2008-03-03 18:17 < yamanbaiia> whatever, this quote is pure genious: "because the last thing i want to do is take a brake from fucking your brains out all night to work on your wikipedia entry:)"
2008-03-03 18:17 < Demi> well, i guess if someone were suggesting there were some doubt about them that would be pertinent
2008-03-03 18:18 < bumm13> pure genious, indeed
2008-03-03 18:18 < yamanbaiia> genius , yeah typo
2008-03-03 18:21 * gwern really can't disagree with the sentiments. sex is more awesome than editing WP
2008-03-03 18:22 < Daniel_Bush> Does Wikipedia have Player versus Player combat
2008-03-03 18:23 < Daniel_Bush> or is it just Player versus Environment now and if so, is PvP coming in the 3.0 edition
2008-03-03 18:23 < mavhc> you can track people down and fight them in real life
2008-03-03 18:24 < Golbez> time for a few clueblocks
2008-03-03 18:30 < Mike_H> During the 1970s, Barbeau had a thriving career on television, first appearing as the daughter of Bea Arthur's character on the series, Maude, which ran from 1972 to 1978. On the series, more attention was given to her breasts than to her acting ability, earning her the vulgar nickname "Adrienne Barboobs" in the media.
2008-03-03 18:30 < Mike_H> In her autobiography, There Are Worse Things I Could Do, she remarked: "What I didn't know is that when I said [my lines], I was usually walking down a flight of stairs and no one was even listening to me. They were just watching my breasts precede me."
2008-03-03 18:30 < Mike_H> heh
2008-03-03 18:32 < kmccoy> Hi, Mike.
2008-03-03 18:32 < Mike_H> hi
2008-03-03 18:33 < Doc_glasgow> Anyone know anything about neo-surrealist art?
2008-03-03 18:34 < bumm13> hiya kmccoy
2008-03-03 18:35 < kmccoy> bumm13. :)
2008-03-03 18:35 < Messedrocker> Doc_glasgow, purple kittens eating Nintendo 64's
2008-03-03 18:35 < Miranda> why does wikipedia-ital. have ads for merchandise on their page and en. doesn't? http://it.wikipedia.org
2008-03-03 18:35 < Doc_glasgow> nah
2008-03-03 18:35 < Messedrocker> all while being observed by Patrick Moore through binoculars
2008-03-03 18:35 < mavhc> playing the xylophone
2008-03-03 18:36 < Messedrocker> what i said is my standard for neo-surrealist art
2008-03-03 18:36 < Messedrocker> if it does not meet my standard
2008-03-03 18:36 < Messedrocker> it is too normal
2008-03-03 18:36 < Demi> Miranda - what?
2008-03-03 18:36 < Miranda> wikipedia it has ads for merchandise on the top of the page
2008-03-03 18:36 < Miranda> like anyone cares...just noticed
2008-03-03 18:37 < mavhc> where?
2008-03-03 18:37 < mavhc> perhaps you have adware
2008-03-03 18:38 < Demi> yeah, maybe i don't read italian or something (i don't) but i don't know what you're talking about
2008-03-03 18:39 < Soms> Looks perfectly fine to me.
2008-03-03 18:39 < Demi> http://shop.wikimedia.it/
2008-03-03 18:39 < Demi> ah, you mean that
2008-03-03 18:39 < Miranda> yep
2008-03-03 18:41 < Demi> i'm kind of too busy eating girl scout cookies to shop for merchandise right now
2008-03-03 18:41 < Mike_H> fatty boombalatty
2008-03-03 18:42 < Demi> it's not really my fault
2008-03-03 18:43 < Demi> yesterday my son says "let's go buy some girl scouts!"
2008-03-03 18:44 < Mike_H> and you're like
2008-03-03 18:44 < Mike_H> "that's a bit young for me"
2008-03-03 18:44 < Soms> hah
2008-03-03 18:47 < Demi> the other day, he looks out our front window (at a bit of a mess of toys in the front yard) and says, "What the fuck?" just matter-of-factly. Now, you don't really want to call particular attention to something like that, but it's really hard, because a cursing four-year-old is pretty funny.
2008-03-03 18:49 < rw> hi
2008-03-03 18:49 < Gracenotes> hello
2008-03-03 18:50 < lotug> hello
2008-03-03 18:52 < gwern> you guys are the ultimate fans! I - I CAN'T STOP CRYING!
2008-03-03 18:52 < Demi> "There are [14] active requests for this title. Do you still want to place the request?" arg
2008-03-03 18:52 < Demi> what do they expect me to do? *buy* the damn book?
2008-03-03 18:53 < Demi> just call me #15
2008-03-03 18:54 < gwern> no, call me ishmael
2008-03-03 18:54 < gwern> but whatever you do, don't call me shirley!
2008-03-03 18:54 < Gracenotes> hi, folks. If you can't speak, check out #wikimedia-ops.
2008-03-03 18:55 < gwern> Gracenotes: you can stop my mouth, but you can never silence my soul
2008-03-03 18:55 < Gracenotes> gwern: sorry to hear that
2008-03-03 18:55 < PseudoOne> Where can I find online Simple English Wikipedia administrators?
2008-03-03 18:56 < gwern> we still have the simple wikis? good grief
2008-03-03 18:56 < PseudoOne> =P
2008-03-03 18:56 < wimt> PseudoOne, #wikipedia-simple I think if anyone's in there
2008-03-03 18:56 < PseudoOne> hey wimt
2008-03-03 18:56 < Miranda> PseudoOne: try #wikipedia-simple I think FrancoGG is one
2008-03-03 18:56 < wimt> Heya :-)
2008-03-03 18:56 < PseudoOne> Everyone's away :(
2008-03-03 18:57 < Miranda> :-(
2008-03-03 18:57 < PseudoOne> There's a persistent vandal too =/
2008-03-03 18:57 < Miranda> oh i know Cometstyles is one PseudoOne
2008-03-03 18:57 < Gracenotes> O:
2008-03-03 18:57 < Miranda> i.e. Warpath
2008-03-03 18:57 < wimt> I think Majorly is one
2008-03-03 18:57 < PseudoOne> yea, but I don't know if they're online :S
2008-03-03 18:58 < Gracenotes> oops
2008-03-03 18:58 < Miranda> yeah majorly is one
2008-03-03 18:58 * Ceiling_Cat cuddles with Gracenotes
2008-03-03 18:58 * Gracenotes reciprocates
2008-03-03 18:59 < gwern> 'Butlers used to work their way up from the bottom and belong to clubs in larger cities such as London, but today, tend to go to butler schools and belong to guilds such as The International Institute of Modern Butlers and The Guild of Professional English Butlers. Butlers are also found in hotels, corporate settings, yachts, and embassies, and are available as temporary service providers.' <-- I did not know that
2008-03-03 18:59 * Junkoe farts
2008-03-03 18:59 < gwern> 'ord FitzWalter accompanied Henry II into Ireland, and was appointed hereditary Chief Butler of Ireland in 1177. This title can be defined as Governor by today's standards.' <-- lol
2008-03-03 18:59 < Junkoe> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Age_of_Consent.png
2008-03-03 18:59 < Junkoe> that is my home page
2008-03-03 19:00 < Junkoe> seriously
2008-03-03 19:00 < gwern> [[Had I but known]] <-- mein gott
2008-03-03 19:00 < autocracy> Junkoe: thanks; that's creepy
2008-03-03 19:00 * Gracenotes twiddles his thumbs
2008-03-03 19:00 < gwern> Junkoe: how can a country be both 'not known' and 'must be married'?
2008-03-03 19:00 < TheWeasel> gwern: [[Fritz Walter]] ?
2008-03-03 19:00 < Junkoe> dunno
2008-03-03 19:00 < Junkoe> According to Wikipedia, "cum swallowing" is an "extreme" sexual act.
2008-03-03 19:01 < impact> SUP NIGGERS
2008-03-03 19:01 < gwern> Lord Fitzwalter
2008-03-03 19:01 < TheWeasel> [[Fritz Walter]] is a legendary German footballer
2008-03-03 19:01 < AdibM> Hello
2008-03-03 19:02 < Gracenotes> hello
2008-03-03 19:02 < AdibM> Could anyone please give me an estimate as to when the Wikipedia database will no longer be read-only?
2008-03-03 19:02 < gwern> AdibM: I just comitted an edit
2008-03-03 19:03 < gwern> huh. watchlists currently go back to 6 February. how unusual
2008-03-03 19:03 < AdibM> Oh, thanks!
2008-03-03 19:04 < AdibM> It worked haha
2008-03-03 19:05 < Gracenotes> lol
2008-03-03 19:05 < Gracenotes> silly ChatZilla
2008-03-03 19:05 < bumm13> wth?
2008-03-03 19:06 < gwern> it's a pity so many of the old hebrew scriptures are gone. they'd revolutionize our understanding. can you imagine how the ''History of the Wars of the Lord'' might change our understanding of the old testament?
2008-03-03 19:06 < Gracenotes> don't ask
2008-03-03 19:06 < Soms> thats not even a proper ban
2008-03-03 19:06 < Gracenotes> yes. I *know*
2008-03-03 19:06 < Gracenotes> I was going to remove it
2008-03-03 19:06 < Soms> meh ok then
2008-03-03 19:06 < kenlyric> gwern: no, I don't think it would change anything
2008-03-03 19:06 < Gracenotes> but, actually
2008-03-03 19:06 < kenlyric> they just be declared heretical and ignored.
2008-03-03 19:07 < Daniel_Bush> John McCain isn't getting a free ride in the media
2008-03-03 19:07 < Daniel_Bush> http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/02/for_mccain_a_different_kind_of.html
2008-03-03 19:07 < Daniel_Bush> because he's paying them in shrimp barbecue and wine
2008-03-03 19:07 < gwern> kenlyric: on what basis do you say that? it's mentioned in the pentateuch as being authoritative
2008-03-03 19:07 < kenlyric> well, maybe jews would enjoy it
2008-03-03 19:07 < kenlyric> but christians wouldn't let it change their beliefs one iota
2008-03-03 19:08 < gwern> honestly, if aliens arrived and revealed they had taped jesus molesting children, it wouldn't matter to christians. at this point, there's so much evidence against christianity that any more is pointless. either you believe or you don't
2008-03-03 19:10 < kenlyric> clearly the video was doctored. It's from aliens.
2008-03-03 19:10 < Demi> i'm looking for something good toread
2008-03-03 19:10 < gwern> kenlyric: exactly
2008-03-03 19:10 < ggreer> the cryptonomicon
2008-03-03 19:10 < ggreer> ender's game
2008-03-03 19:10 < ggreer> but not the other books by orson scott card
2008-03-03 19:11 < Demi> yeah, maybe, it's almost considered a classic now
2008-03-03 19:11 < Demi> cryptonomicon i've read, along with everything else stephenson
2008-03-03 19:11 < ggreer> oh
2008-03-03 19:11 < kenlyric> ~critfail ggreer
2008-03-03 19:11 < kenlyric> speaker for the dead
2008-03-03 19:11 < gwern> d'you read Vinge?
2008-03-03 19:11 < ggreer> ender's game is pretty good. everything else is just a huge apology for hitler
2008-03-03 19:11 < Demi> i haven't, gwern
2008-03-03 19:12 < kenlyric> why would card apologize for hitler?
2008-03-03 19:12 < Demi> kenlyric - because he's mormon, duh
2008-03-03 19:12 < ggreer> kenlyric: because he's a fascist
2008-03-03 19:12 < gwern> Demi: oh. you might like 'A Fire upon the Deep' or 'A Deepness in the Sky'
2008-03-03 19:12 < kenlyric> that's got to be the widest stretch I've ever heard
2008-03-03 19:12 < gwern> on a side note, what's up with Vinge's titles? I feel sure he's quoting from somewhere
2008-03-03 19:13 < gwern> kenlyric: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/5/28/193926/689 <-- it's been discussed by quite a few people
2008-03-03 19:13 < ggreer> kenlyric: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/5/28/22428/7034
2008-03-03 19:13 < ggreer> heh
2008-03-03 19:13 < gwern> ggreer: jinx
2008-03-03 19:13 < ggreer> I was first
2008-03-03 19:13 < kenlyric> nope
2008-03-03 19:13 < kenlyric> your IRC client is clearly bugged
2008-03-03 19:13 < gwern> ggreer: you can't speak until I unjinx you!
2008-03-03 19:13 < kenlyric> gwern wins
2008-03-03 19:14 < Demi> it's not "absolute timing chat" you know
2008-03-03 19:14 < ggreer> that's one thing I hate about IRC. the server doesn't respond with the authoritative message order
2008-03-03 19:14 < Demi> there is no first
2008-03-03 19:14 < gwern> *and* I'm going through tor, so I lag a fair bit
2008-03-03 19:14 < gwern> which means I was even more ahead of you
2008-03-03 19:14 < kenlyric> well, since they both directed it at me, I'm the authority
2008-03-03 19:14 * kenlyric grows mad with power
2008-03-03 19:15 < NotACow> moo
2008-03-03 19:15 < tawker> Ceiling_Cat: care to do a usurp for moi
2008-03-03 19:15 < gwern> madness? THIS IS #WIKIPEDIA!
2008-03-03 19:15 * gwern likes how you can write #WIKIPEDIA! easily in caps
2008-03-03 19:17 < gwern> ' In several places he denied that things are in the novel which are not only in the novel, but Elaine had footnoted them with page numbers. It's as if someone challenged me on the novel I would write six years later and I would respond "Incest? What incest? There isn't any incest in Prime Intellect."'
2008-03-03 19:17 < Ceiling_Cat> you know what they say
2008-03-03 19:17 < Ceiling_Cat> Incest is the best
2008-03-03 19:17 * Ceiling_Cat ducks
2008-03-03 19:17 < kenlyric> so, where's the extensive footnotes and comparison?
2008-03-03 19:18 < Ceiling_Cat> mental note: incest is the best gets 890,000 hits on google
2008-03-03 19:18 < gwern> that joke is incestalicious
2008-03-03 19:18 < gwern> 'I'd link Elaine's article at this point for you to read and judge for yourself, but I'm pretty sure she has never put it online. Besides which, it isn't really damningly complete without Card's half-coherent blustering rantback, which isn't hers to republish. Both articles were later reprinted by Literary Review, though, which is one of the reference collections carried by most libraries. So if you have one of those places where they keep a lot of ...
2008-03-03 19:18 < gwern> ... these paper things called "books" printed on dead trees, a librarian should be able to find them for you without much trouble.'
2008-03-03 19:18 < kenlyric> doesn't exist
2008-03-03 19:18 < kenlyric> you made that up
2008-03-03 19:19 < gwern> ' He was there with another SF writer whose name you would recognize less from his SF than from a popular column he wrote for a computer magazine.' <-- hm. Pohl? Didn't he used to write a column?
2008-03-03 19:19 < ggreer> orson, is that you? :)
2008-03-03 19:20 * Demi calling Orson... come in, Orson
2008-03-03 19:20 < kenlyric> needs more support
2008-03-03 19:21 < Demi> gwern - so which vinge to start with? they're both out so i'll pick one first
2008-03-03 19:22 < kenlyric> You are telling me that if I wrote a story where Hitler escapes to Brazil, prevents a massacre of some Native Americans, and then raises a bunch of Jews from the dead.
2008-03-03 19:22 < gwern> Demi: I think A Fire upon the Deep contains more of the famous Vingean elements
2008-03-03 19:22 < kenlyric> hitler sounds like a nice guy
2008-03-03 19:22 < gwern> Demi: were you ever on usenet? if so, start with Fire
2008-03-03 19:22 < kenlyric> ggreer: fyi, I hate you if you make me hate one my favorite books :)
2008-03-03 19:23 < Ceiling_Cat> http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/dunecat.jpg
2008-03-03 19:23 < Ceiling_Cat> :)
2008-03-03 19:23 < ggreer> kenlyric: heh
2008-03-03 19:23 < gwern> Ceiling_Cat: we've discussed that one before
2008-03-03 19:23 < Ceiling_Cat> I know
2008-03-03 19:23 < kenlyric> then again, all sorts of really good novels are written by horrible people with horrible motivations.
2008-03-03 19:24 < kenlyric> that lewis caroll pedophile!
2008-03-03 19:25 < Demi> i wouldn't mind a good biography
2008-03-03 19:26 * TheWeasel reads "Italienischer Liktor" = "Italian lictor" instead of "Lektor" = "lecturer"
2008-03-03 19:26 < gwern> you could read the autobio of Aleister Crowley - it is certainly interesting
2008-03-03 19:26 < TheWeasel> considering that Mussolini used the sign of the lictors of Rome, that wouldn't've been good
2008-03-03 19:27 < gwern> TheWeasel: a lictor would be awesome
2008-03-03 19:27 < crisco> Sure are a lot of wikif4qgots on here today. Heres a list of a few wikif4gs who are exceptionally fgt:
2008-03-03 19:27 < crisco> `quen MooingLemur ideogram Zarggg Suva Sir48 whoa_boat yanstheman dandin1 autocracy kenlyric Jetro PseudoOne rw karoshi White_Cat_Zzz Ashfire908 LazaroTormes Bosques Lubaf Not_the_NSA Messedrocker Ral315 jackster ST47 bsaxon Scream Nihiltres kibble VegaDark|away WaveOfMutilation PhilKC Mitchell Tony_Sidaway tawker TheLetterE_away Ziron Golbez roland-home Ceiling_Cat Kjoonlee Mike_H Onyxyte Star-D Olipro Chetblong Gracenotes K__ Undeference
2008-03-03 19:27 < crisco> Demi cremepuff222 Miranda Doc_glasgow Huntster SonicAD gwern LordMetroid Daniel_Bush SQLDb JigmeDatse Reedy_Boy [hmwith]|away ggreer FrancoGG chomwitt Bovlb_ Riffage Mimsy prixels bumm13 spuin lotug TheWeasel Warpath braskd James_F|Away bah brick_ijigg Scott5114 jenda Quendus uberpenguin mavhc spopp Werdna dungodung|sleep Erickj92 tarbo Neskaya szczepan Rinn Backstretch atomicpotato ceil420 vt52 Species8473 Martinp23 jimius kohwj Stormscap
2008-03-03 19:27 < TheWeasel> Spare the rod and spoil the taxpayer, I say.
2008-03-03 19:27 < crisco> cctoide Danny_B jpatrick TwinsMetsFan VRAG- zocky Arria Texou Luigi30 Falc RichiH dircbot njan Jacek_Kendysz Haley ggreer` A_TOKINA randomuser01 bishonen Crimedog PeanutHorst wahrheit lucasbfr quanticle|away Kwitschibo pschemp STalKer-X AfterDeath Paracropolis bluefoxicy NastyAccident lymeca trousers Mike5 Bloodshedder _sj_ Morlark| Wile_E_Coyote mazzanet Faroframkallande resivolve stylus brown_cat denelson83 nalioth The359 werdan7 SportCh
2008-03-03 19:27 < LordMetroid> what?
2008-03-03 19:27 < crisco> Jonbo fnordus OverlordQ JT Illarane maimai dig_ spiko Cyde planetd somebody twmi scorchsaber Master_son IceKarma TerminX Thx Wegge te AndrewB webs AntiSpamMeta sparro1 LiraNuna aloril Kamping_Kaiser bd_ nazgjunk nenolod joquarky str4nd Pichu0102 ancjr powerdan add1ct Polar Jakl ArmyMan jaydeearm Simon- HardDisk_WP felipe` thedj Adrian^L_ JeLuF Michael_B sam Kaare epsi jeronim peh Kvant phearless dtobias fskof qed {pizzathief} Crazytales
2008-03-03 19:27 < kibble> O_O
2008-03-03 19:27 < Zarggg> ban
2008-03-03 19:27 < Bosques> boot him
2008-03-03 19:27 < Ceiling_Cat> I winz!
2008-03-03 19:27 < Kjoonlee> ?
2008-03-03 19:27 < ST47> I win!!!
2008-03-03 19:27 < Messedrocker> hah
2008-03-03 19:27 < LiraNuna> ...
2008-03-03 19:27 < kibble> lol
2008-03-03 19:27 < Species8473> oh noes!
2008-03-03 19:27 < Kjoonlee> did someone call me?
2008-03-03 19:27 < gwern> get uppity? BAM, flogged with the fasces!
2008-03-03 19:27 * White_Cat_Zzz watches the Ceiling_Cat ban people
2008-03-03 19:27 < Messedrocker> lol
2008-03-03 19:27 < kibble> Kjoonlee: spammer probably ;-)
2008-03-03 19:27 < TheWeasel> they were tax collectors with the license to beat the crap out of their clients.
2008-03-03 19:27 < TheLetterE_away> gah
2008-03-03 19:27 < Messedrocker> three simultaneous bans