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2008-03-02 19:48 < zvook> ".an internal mailing list of people who specialize in fixing this kind of stuff..." that would be OTRS
2008-03-02 19:53 < Scarian> How much does google earn every time I click on an ad?
2008-03-02 19:54 < Crimedog> Ditto for [[1945]]
2008-03-02 19:56 < Ceiling_Cat> So I was reading in my 'World At War' book, and it had a hilarious anecdote
2008-03-02 19:56 < Ceiling_Cat> apparently, in his private diary, [[Alan Brooke, 1st Viscount Alanbrooke]] would constantly complain that the WWII british general, as a whole, had no talent
2008-03-02 19:56 < Ceiling_Cat> his theory was that all the ones who would have made good generals got killed in world war I
2008-03-02 19:56 < Ceiling_Cat> generals*
2008-03-02 19:58 < BillyH> It's one of those theories that you have no way of proving.
2008-03-02 19:58 < BillyH> Like "If you travel far enough through space you'll find a huge pineapple"
2008-03-02 19:58 < Comets> and Sponge-bob inside :P
2008-03-02 19:58 < Crimedog> Would it be shoved up Hitler's ass?
2008-03-02 19:59 < Comets> Crimedog, nah a watermelon is already there :p
2008-03-02 20:00 < FastLizard4> privatemusings :)
2008-03-02 20:00 < privatemusings> g'day lizard.....
2008-03-02 20:00 < privatemusings> still trying to chivvy people into that skypecast by the way....
2008-03-02 20:01 < privatemusings> witty lama is up for it...
2008-03-02 20:01 < privatemusings> is messedrocker around?
2008-03-02 20:01 * OverlordQ prods privatemusings
2008-03-02 20:01 * privatemusings waves at OverlordQ....
2008-03-02 20:01 < Messedrocker> hi privatemusings
2008-03-02 20:01 < privatemusings> and in the process of writing up that research thing, Overlord
2008-03-02 20:01 < OverlordQ> So how'd you want that thing to run anways? Give it a title and it spits back the links, or what? or
2008-03-02 20:01 < OverlordQ> just have it putout all the links on a page?
2008-03-02 20:01 < Ceiling_Cat> hello privatemusings
2008-03-02 20:01 < privatemusings> hello everyone!
2008-03-02 20:01 < Ceiling_Cat> did you see my comment earlier?
2008-03-02 20:02 < privatemusings> nope....
2008-03-02 20:02 < Ceiling_Cat> my wikipedia contributions ended up in a hollywood movie
2008-03-02 20:02 < privatemusings> I'm sure they were stupid though....
2008-03-02 20:02 < privatemusings> ;-)
2008-03-02 20:02 < Ceiling_Cat> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Suggestions#Movie_copies_from_Wikipedia_DNA_article
2008-03-02 20:02 < Mike5> wp is down
2008-03-02 20:02 < Yaakov_> wikidown?
2008-03-02 20:02 < Species8473> Yaakov_: seems so
2008-03-02 20:02 < BillyH> Oh damn.
2008-03-02 20:02 < BillyH> Is and all.
2008-03-02 20:02 * The359 summons Phoenix Down
2008-03-02 20:03 < The359> Working for me
2008-03-02 20:03 < Yaakov_> if you pluck the feathers off the wiki, you get wikidown
2008-03-02 20:03 < BillyH> Oh there we go.
2008-03-02 20:03 < Mike5> ok working
2008-03-02 20:03 < Yaakov_> oh, its back up
2008-03-02 20:03 * cimon remembers drafting the press release for 100 000 articles on the English wikipedia... Those were the days.... And get off my lawn!!!
2008-03-02 20:03 < BillyH> A...thirteen second downtime, woo.
2008-03-02 20:03 * Mike_H NP: Laura Branigan - Gloria (1982)
2008-03-02 20:04 < cimon> Mike_H, Branigan has precisely one good song, and that ain't it.
2008-03-02 20:04 * Yaakov_ remembers when cimon had a pogostick
2008-03-02 20:04 < Mike_H> cimon: Gloria
2008-03-02 20:04 < Mike_H> I think they got your number!
2008-03-02 20:04 < Mike_H> Gloria!
2008-03-02 20:04 < Mike_H> I think they got your alias!
2008-03-02 20:04 < Mike_H> Gloria!
2008-03-02 20:04 < Mike_H> That you've been livin' under!
2008-03-02 20:04 < Mike_H> Gloria!
2008-03-02 20:04 < privatemusings> so messedrocker and ceiling_cat and Mike....
2008-03-02 20:04 < cimon> Halleluyah.
2008-03-02 20:05 < kgoetz> o_0 wth?
2008-03-02 20:05 < Messedrocker> yes?
2008-03-02 20:05 < Franz21> zomg
2008-03-02 20:05 < privatemusings> can I persuade any or all of you onto skype for a skypecast / podcast recording?
2008-03-02 20:05 < privatemusings> say in 24 hours time?
2008-03-02 20:05 < Mike_H> privatemusings: I don't have a microphone
2008-03-02 20:05 < Messedrocker> sure, privatemusings
2008-03-02 20:05 < Mike_H> and the only way someone can connect me to skype is if someone dials my cell phone
2008-03-02 20:05 < FastLizard4> privatemusings: I am available to go on
2008-03-02 20:05 < Mike_H> in the United States.
2008-03-02 20:05 < privatemusings> you've got a day to go get one - I'll reimburse you if you like no worries....!
2008-03-02 20:05 < BillyH> Ok it's past 1am here so I'm gonna party some more and then head to slumber.
2008-03-02 20:05 < BillyH> Bye all!
2008-03-02 20:05 < privatemusings> ceiling_cat?
2008-03-02 20:06 < privatemusings> great fastlizard ! - we'll get a quorum by hook or by crook...!
2008-03-02 20:06 < Mike_H> cimon: Gloria is still a popular song heard on oldies radio
2008-03-02 20:06 < FastLizard4> privatemusings: Oh, 24 hours from now, that might be a problem
2008-03-02 20:06 < Mike_H> especially on the dance nights
2008-03-02 20:06 < Mike_H> where they play all the dance hits of the '70s and '80s by request
2008-03-02 20:06 * ancjr just had rib night
2008-03-02 20:06 < Astral_Enigma> privatemusings: I can make it 24h from now also
2008-03-02 20:07 < Mike_H> and since we have a sizable gay population in Tampa, usually "by request" dance night almost always includes "It's Raining Men"
2008-03-02 20:07 * Mike_H NP: Weather Girls - It's Raining Men (1982)
2008-03-02 20:08 < Ceiling_Cat> privatemusings - yes?
2008-03-02 20:08 < Ceiling_Cat> sorry, I don't do skype
2008-03-02 20:09 < bogdan2005> hey!
2008-03-02 20:09 < Mike_H> cimon: God bless Mother Nature
2008-03-02 20:09 < Mike_H> she's a single woman too!
2008-03-02 20:09 < Lubaf> We wouldn't have to eat Kraft Dinners...
2008-03-02 20:09 < FastLizard4> privatemusings: Also, my connection has been fritizing on me these past few days ever since a storm rolled through
2008-03-02 20:09 < Astral_Enigma> Lubaf: But we would eat Kraft Dinners
2008-03-02 20:09 < bogdan2005> what's the latest gossip on Jimbo's personal life?
2008-03-02 20:09 < Astral_Enigma> We'd just eat more of them!
2008-03-02 20:09 < Lubaf> But not a real green dress, that's cruel.
2008-03-02 20:10 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:10 * Lubaf stabbles Astral_Enigma.
2008-03-02 20:10 < cimon> Mike_H, hmm, I thought Mother Nature was kind of married to the Green Man...
2008-03-02 20:10 < Astral_Enigma> Lubaf: :(
2008-03-02 20:10 < Astral_Enigma> But I sang the other bit from the song
2008-03-02 20:11 * PfostenGsicht
2008-03-02 20:11 < Mike_H> according to all sources
2008-03-02 20:11 < Lubaf> Astral_Enigma: That wasn't for singing. That was for the hugging.
2008-03-02 20:11 < Mike_H> the street's the place to go
2008-03-02 20:11 < Astral_Enigma> Lubaf: :'(
2008-03-02 20:11 < Mike_H> 'cause tonight, for the first time, just about half past ten
2008-03-02 20:11 < Mike_H> for the first time in history...
2008-03-02 20:11 < Astral_Enigma> tonight for the first time
2008-03-02 20:11 < Mike_H> it's gonna start RAINING MEN
2008-03-02 20:11 < Astral_Enigma> it's gonna start raining men
2008-03-02 20:11 * Astral_Enigma sings loudly
2008-03-02 20:11 * Lubaf points to his "All unprovoked displays of affection will be met with excessive violence" sign.
2008-03-02 20:12 * Astral_Enigma glomps Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:12 < cimon> Mike_H, the cover of that by Geri was pretty kickass...
2008-03-02 20:12 < Astral_Enigma> and it wasn't unprovoked
2008-03-02 20:12 * Lubaf shoves Astral_Enigma off a cliff.
2008-03-02 20:12 < Astral_Enigma> you were singing BNL
2008-03-02 20:12 < Mike_H> cimon: Oh, I don't much care for her
2008-03-02 20:12 < Astral_Enigma> that's enough for affection
2008-03-02 20:12 < Astral_Enigma> so it wasn't unprovoked
2008-03-02 20:13 < Lubaf> Astral_Enigma: Note the asterisk above the "unprovoked". That means "All displays of affection will be considered unprovoked, unless directly asked for."
2008-03-02 20:13 < cimon> Mike_H, I am probably the only person in the world that really fancied Geris look after she buffed up her six-pack. (assuming for the sake of argument that that really was her, and not body doubles/CGI)...
2008-03-02 20:13 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:13 * Ceiling_Cat piles on and huggles lubaf too
2008-03-02 20:14 * FastLizard4 huggles Ceiling_Cat
2008-03-02 20:14 < Mike_H> cimon: Okay, so this is the seventh person who was a teen in the '80s that I've asked this to
2008-03-02 20:14 * Lubaf stabs Astral_Enigma and Ceiling_Cat with a dull machete.
2008-03-02 20:14 < Mike_H> now answer.
2008-03-02 20:14 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:14 < Mike_H> If you're out of touch
2008-03-02 20:14 < Mike_H> what am I?
2008-03-02 20:14 * Lubaf stabbles Astral_Enigma.
2008-03-02 20:14 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:14 * FastLizard4 shoots Lubaf with an AK-47
2008-03-02 20:14 < Daniel_Bush> I'm not going to be huggled
2008-03-02 20:14 * Astral_Enigma huggles Daniel_Bush
2008-03-02 20:14 * Lubaf throws Astral_Enigma into a vat of acid.
2008-03-02 20:14 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:14 < Daniel_Bush> because I'm coated with a layer of plastic-covered ricin
2008-03-02 20:14 < cimon> Mike_H, Pat Benatar, right?
2008-03-02 20:14 * FastLizard4 gives Astral_Enigma a bottle of nitric acid
2008-03-02 20:15 < Mike_H> cimon: No.
2008-03-02 20:15 < Mike_H> You're the first '80s kid to fail at this question.
2008-03-02 20:15 * Astral_Enigma huggles FastLizard4
2008-03-02 20:15 < Daniel_Bush> of which only a pin head sized amount can kill an adult
2008-03-02 20:15 * Lubaf injects Astral_Enigma with pepper extract.
2008-03-02 20:15 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:15 * FastLizard4 injects Lubaf with sulfer nitrate
2008-03-02 20:15 * Lubaf punches Astral_Enigma in the eye.
2008-03-02 20:15 < cimon> Mike_H, perhaps a cover... I know for a fact Pat Benatar has that line in one of her songs... just a moment...
2008-03-02 20:15 * FastLizard4 then injects Lubaf with silber nitrate
2008-03-02 20:16 < Mike_H> cimon: No, this song wasn't a cover of anything
2008-03-02 20:16 < Mike_H> the people who sang it, wrote it.
2008-03-02 20:16 < FastLizard4> s/silber/silver
2008-03-02 20:16 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:16 * FastLizard4 huggles Astral_Enigma
2008-03-02 20:16 < Astral_Enigma> :D
2008-03-02 20:16 * FastLizard4 huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:16 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:16 < cimon> Mike_H, Album: Crimes of Passion, last song... Out-A-Touch.
2008-03-02 20:16 * Lubaf gets out his chainsaw.
2008-03-02 20:16 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:16 < Mike_H> cimon: yeah, that's not it
2008-03-02 20:17 < IceKarma> Daniel_Bush, I always thought the gaffed umbrella job was clever.
2008-03-02 20:17 < Mike_H> cimon: "Out of Touch" is a 1984 song from Daryl Hall and John Oates. This lead single from their 1984 album Big Bam Boom was their final number one, topping the Billboard Hot 100 for two weeks in December 1984.
2008-03-02 20:17 * Lubaf cuts off Astral_Enigma's arms.
2008-03-02 20:17 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:17 * FastLizard4 huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:17 < Lubaf> You can't. You don't have any arms.
2008-03-02 20:17 * Lubaf cuts off FastLizard4's arms.
2008-03-02 20:17 < Astral_Enigma> Lubaf: I grew new ones
2008-03-02 20:17 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:17 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:17 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:17 * Astral_Enigma huggles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:17 * FastLizard4 regrows them
2008-03-02 20:17 * FastLizard4 initiates holodeck program "Huggle-Lubaf"
2008-03-02 20:17 < kibble> Astral_Enigma: you're freaking otu the bot
2008-03-02 20:17 < AndrewB> Astral_Enigma: please stop that
2008-03-02 20:18 * kibble ships Astral_Enigma off to pm with luba
2008-03-02 20:18 < kibble> f
2008-03-02 20:18 < cimon> Mike_H, right, this is not a cover, Music by Neil Geraldo, lyrics by Pat Benatar.
2008-03-02 20:18 * Astral_Enigma goes to bed
2008-03-02 20:19 < cimon> Mike_H, only one I remember by Hall&Oates is the one from Dirty Dancing...
2008-03-02 20:19 * FastLizard4 nukles Lubaf
2008-03-02 20:20 < Mike_H> cimon: privatemusings knew what the answer was
2008-03-02 20:20 < Mike_H> didn't you privatemusings.
2008-03-02 20:20 < Lubaf> Could somebody kickban Astral_Enigma and FastLizard4 for spamming?
2008-03-02 20:20 < Astral_Enigma> hahaha
2008-03-02 20:20 < privatemusings> course i did!
2008-03-02 20:20 < Astral_Enigma> LOL WHUT?
2008-03-02 20:20 < Astral_Enigma> Smapping?
2008-03-02 20:20 < Astral_Enigma> *spamming?
2008-03-02 20:20 < AndrewB> please stop spamming
2008-03-02 20:20 < privatemusings> ok folks - for those interested in the inaugural 'not the wikipedia weekly' skypecast...
2008-03-02 20:20 < privatemusings> messedrocker - which I hope you're free to join in 24 hours...!
2008-03-02 20:20 < cimon> Time of Our Lives or whatever...
2008-03-02 20:20 < Astral_Enigma> AndrewB: Please tell me how I was spamming.
2008-03-02 20:21 < Astral_Enigma> I see no attempt by me to promote a product/service/website
2008-03-02 20:21 < Astral_Enigma> So how was I spamming?
2008-03-02 20:21 < Mike_H> cimon: That was Bill Medley and Jennifer Warnes
2008-03-02 20:21 < privatemusings> I'm running a test skypecast shortly....
2008-03-02 20:21 < Mike_H> I believe.
2008-03-02 20:21 < AndrewB> Astral_Enigma: all i see above is the constant line being repeated in a way to harass a user
2008-03-02 20:21 < Proud_Cat> s/spamming/scrolling/ , and no on the kick
2008-03-02 20:21 < privatemusings> and will through the link up here for anyone to hop into....
2008-03-02 20:21 < Mike_H> "(I've Had) The Time of My Life" is a song composed by Franke Previte, John DeNicola, and Donald Markowitz. It was recorded by Bill Medley and Jennifer Warnes, after having been selected to be the finale song for the 1987 film Dirty Dancing by choreographer Kenny Ortega and his assistant Miranda Garrison (who also played Vivian in the film).
2008-03-02 20:21 < Astral_Enigma> AndrewB: That's not spamming.
2008-03-02 20:22 < AndrewB> Astral_Enigma: it is still agaist rules, also.. constant usage of a line can be seen as spamming
2008-03-02 20:22 < bumm13> Astral_Enigma: regardless, it's over; don't do it again
2008-03-02 20:22 < AndrewB> Astral_Enigma: i asked you quite nicely and you stopped. all is good
2008-03-02 20:22 < Astral_Enigma> AndrewB: That's the worst use of the term spamming I have ever come across.
2008-03-02 20:22 < Astral_Enigma> Flooding yes
2008-03-02 20:22 < Astral_Enigma> but spamming no.
2008-03-02 20:22 < cimon> Mike_H, shows what I know isn't worth s**t
2008-03-02 20:22 < Mike_H> Wait, what rules
2008-03-02 20:22 * FastLizard4 hides
2008-03-02 20:22 < Mike_H> cimon: it's because you're getting old, lovey
2008-03-02 20:23 < bumm13> some people need to learn when to shut their trap
2008-03-02 20:23 < cimon> Mike_H, no, it is because I didn't listen to music at that era...
2008-03-02 20:23 < cimon> only Johnny Cash and Pat Benatar, accept no substitutes.
2008-03-02 20:23 * quanticle backs away from bumm13
2008-03-02 20:24 < quanticle> That was kinda cold, man.
2008-03-02 20:24 * Proud_Cat denotes agreement with quanticle
2008-03-02 20:25 < Mike_H> <NewsWire> CNN: Study: Lusty Chinese in sexual revolution - http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/02/china.sex.ap/index.html?eref=edition
2008-03-02 20:25 < Mike_H> Attack the evil clothing manufacturers!
2008-03-02 20:25 < Mike_H> They must be made examples of!
2008-03-02 20:25 < cremepuff222> :-D
2008-03-02 20:25 * cremepuff222 samples Mike_H.
2008-03-02 20:25 < Mike_H> :DD
2008-03-02 20:26 < quanticle> Mike_H: Yeah, and its why China has huge issues with AIDS right now.
2008-03-02 20:26 < Mike_H> quanticle: China also has the advantage of just replenishing whatever they lose in 23 minutes.
2008-03-02 20:26 < bumm13> it's bad enough that their language(s) has 762612 words for "prostitute" to begin with :P
2008-03-02 20:26 < bumm13> haha
2008-03-02 20:26 < privatemusings> messedrocker : got time to advise / test the skypecast thing?
2008-03-02 20:27 < privatemusings> https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=3928983&hash=5038bf8023533e3676bd
2008-03-02 20:27 < privatemusings> all are welcome... ;-)
2008-03-02 20:27 < quanticle> Mike_H: Well, not so much anymore. The one-child policy did have an effect, y'know.
2008-03-02 20:27 < Messedrocker> no i do not, privatemusings
2008-03-02 20:27 < Messedrocker> i have a loud printer running
2008-03-02 20:27 < quanticle> Mike_H: Greatest quote: Chu Yanyang, an unemployed 21-year-old, said she once went to a bar known as "One-Night Stand," just to see if it lived up to its reputation. It did.
2008-03-02 20:27 < IceKarma> quanticle, several effects
2008-03-02 20:27 < bumm13> heh, lovely
2008-03-02 20:27 < Mike_H> quanticle: Well, now that it's a "sexual revolution," the old order is being thrown out!
2008-03-02 20:29 < bumm13> heh, green tea mixed with whiskey
2008-03-02 20:29 < NotACow> that sounds good
2008-03-02 20:29 < quanticle> Not really.
2008-03-02 20:29 < quanticle> Green tea is kinda gross.
2008-03-02 20:29 < NotACow> i like green teea
2008-03-02 20:30 < NotACow> http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gSOd2XLhTZ0E3mtqlBZlhukSa21w
2008-03-02 20:30 < quanticle> And I don't think mixing it with alcohol would improve things any.
2008-03-02 20:30 < bumm13> that's why I laughed
2008-03-02 20:30 < Mike_H> Green tea and Johnny Walker Black Label
2008-03-02 20:30 < Mike_H> that's very popular in Japan.
2008-03-02 20:31 < bogdan2005> I removed the stuff about [[Rachel Marsden]] from [[Jimbo Wales]]
2008-03-02 20:31 < quanticle> NotACow: Y'know what would be really amusing? If the breakup announcement wasn't due to Jimbo himself, but from some random troll vandalizing his userpage.
2008-03-02 20:31 < bumm13> remember, they also drink sake in Japan :P
2008-03-02 20:31 < Mike_H> someone had to :/
2008-03-02 20:31 < Mike_H> bumm13: blah
2008-03-02 20:31 < bogdan2005> some editors should work for tabloids :P
2008-03-02 20:31 < NotACow> quanticle: sadly, that's not the case
2008-03-02 20:32 < Messedrocker> bogdan2005, good. Until there is significance to the controversy, Jimbo boinking Rachel Marsden is unencyclopedic information
2008-03-02 20:32 < bogdan2005> Messedrocker: "If we would keep that, what would be the next step? List of girlfriends, hookups and dates of Jimmy Wales? We should keep only the personal details that are important. If this affair would have lead to a controversy which would be published by The New York Times, then yes, it should have been in the article, but otherwise, it's just a piece of trivia. bogdan (talk) 01:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)"
2008-03-02 20:32 < NotACow> Messedrocker: the significance is that jimmy was boinking her while at the same time influencing wikipedians to edit her biography in specified ways
2008-03-02 20:32 < bogdan2005> quick, get that article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_girlfriends%2C_hookups_and_dates_of_Jimmy_Wales
2008-03-02 20:33 < Cyrius> no, the significance is that he went and boinked someone who is verifiably nuts
2008-03-02 20:33 < NotACow> Cyrius: nah, lots of people have done that.
2008-03-02 20:33 < Cyrius> and he failed to get free pictures for the project
2008-03-02 20:33 < Cyrius> for shame!
2008-03-02 20:33 < bogdan2005> Cyrius: indeed. but she's good looking.
2008-03-02 20:34 < Cyrius> don't fuck crazy!
2008-03-02 20:34 < Messedrocker> not really
2008-03-02 20:34 < quanticle> bogdan2005: Good looking like Ann Coulter, perhaps.
2008-03-02 20:34 < Cyrius> you can fuck stupid, but not crazy
2008-03-02 20:34 < bogdan2005> quanticle: Ann Coulter is ugly :/
2008-03-02 20:34 < NotACow> ann coulter is a man, baybee
2008-03-02 20:35 < quanticle> Cyrius: The way I see it, there's a tradeoff: smart, sane, or good-looking - pick two
2008-03-02 20:35 < Cyrius> fox fired her for "erratic behavior", consider the standard for being crazy at fox
2008-03-02 20:35 < Cyrius> quanticle: you can have sex with stupid. it's not a great idea, but it's better than crazy
2008-03-02 20:35 < bogdan2005> Cyrius: Marsden was given a conditional discharge with one year of probation in 2004 for criminal harassment of her boyfriend following a breakup.[7][8][9][10]
2008-03-02 20:35 < bogdan2005> Jimbo should be really careful with her ;-)
2008-03-02 20:35 < NotACow> bogdan2005: yeah, jimmy may be in for some fun times
2008-03-02 20:36 < quanticle> Cyrius: Right. But if you go for smart and good-looking (as many nerd guys are wont to do), the crazy is implied.
2008-03-02 20:36 < Cyrius> bogdan2005: she's put his clothing on ebay in retaliation
2008-03-02 20:36 < Daniel_Bush> FOX expects you to at least appear sane. For instance, on election night, you can't throw your hat on the ground and jump up and down on it when your favored candidate loses, and bang your head on the news desk
2008-03-02 20:36 < quanticle> Daniel_Bush: Did Coulter actually do that?
2008-03-02 20:36 < quanticle> I wouldn't be surprised.
2008-03-02 20:36 < Daniel_Bush> No
2008-03-02 20:36 < bogdan2005> "She has written several columns criticizing the concept of anthropogenic global warming." -- nice!
2008-03-02 20:37 < quanticle> bogdan2005: Who? Coulter?
2008-03-02 20:37 < Cyrius> quanticle: she doesn't wear hats
2008-03-02 20:37 < geniice> well to be fair I'm not to happy about the concept either
2008-03-02 20:37 < bogdan2005> quanticle: no, Rachel Marsden.
2008-03-02 20:37 < Daniel_Bush> Hats are an invention of the liberal media
2008-03-02 20:37 < Cyrius> the moon, a ridiculous liberal myth
2008-03-02 20:37 < quanticle> bogdan2005: She's looking more and more like Coulter by the second.
2008-03-02 20:37 < Daniel_Bush> They don't exist except in certain planets Kirk visits in Star Trek
2008-03-02 20:37 < geniice> not to happy about the concept of dimonds being so darn hard to make
2008-03-02 20:37 < Daniel_Bush> and even then the hats are depicted as evil
2008-03-02 20:37 < quanticle> Cyrius: Its well known that reality has a liberal bias.
2008-03-02 20:37 < bogdan2005> quanticle: if Jimbo slept with Coulter, I would have questioned his sanity :D
2008-03-02 20:38 < Cyrius> I'm still questioning his judgement
2008-03-02 20:38 < bogdan2005> either his sanity or his sexual orientation :P
2008-03-02 20:38 < Daniel_Bush> Let's discuss less trivial things
2008-03-02 20:38 < Daniel_Bush> like
2008-03-02 20:38 < Cyrius> even if you're choosing crazy, why choose crazy that involves stalking and harassment?
2008-03-02 20:39 < geniice> we've been through this sleeping with Rachel Marsden does not make you noteable. if he sleeps with a serving US president then yes
2008-03-02 20:39 < geniice> Rachel Marsden
2008-03-02 20:39 < geniice> Cyrius because it has that wikipedia admin feeling
2008-03-02 20:40 < Comets> O_o
2008-03-02 20:40 < Comets> neither does sleeping with Britney Spears :P
2008-03-02 20:41 < Cyrius> there's another example of crazy that I wouldn't touch
2008-03-02 20:41 * bogdan2005 has slept with another Wikipedian. He was on top.
2008-03-02 20:41 < bogdan2005> in a bunk bed, obviously.
2008-03-02 20:41 < Comets> oh i thot he was an admin :P
2008-03-02 20:42 < bogdan2005> Comets: Francis Tyers resigned as admin.
2008-03-02 20:42 < bogdan2005> Comets: I don't recall why.
2008-03-02 21:05 < privatemusings> still skyping...
2008-03-02 21:05 < privatemusings> anyone welcome..
2008-03-02 21:05 < privatemusings> https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=3928983&hash=5038bf8023533e3676bd
2008-03-02 21:05 < quanticle> Meh. I don't have a microphone...
2008-03-02 21:05 < scorchsaber> Meh, I don't have a voicebox...
2008-03-02 21:07 < FastLizard4> privatemusings: Am connecting now
2008-03-02 21:12 < cimon> http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/03/02/194511.php - another review of the Broughton book
2008-03-02 21:22 < FastLizard4> privatemusings: Attempting to connect
2008-03-02 21:22 < privatemusings> good luck
2008-03-02 21:22 < Scream> ./nick publicmusings
2008-03-02 21:22 < Scream> ;)
2008-03-02 21:26 * Cyrius yawns
2008-03-02 21:27 * Scream tosses a skittle into Cyrius's yawn.
2008-03-02 21:27 * Cyrius chokes to death
2008-03-02 21:27 * Scream gets ready to perform "mouth to mouth"
2008-03-02 21:28 * Scream spits out hew chew.
2008-03-02 21:28 < Scream> her
2008-03-02 21:28 < Golbez> huh. there's a new Nine Inch Nails album.
2008-03-02 21:30 < Messedrocker> already?
2008-03-02 21:30 < Golbez> Yep
2008-03-02 21:30 < Golbez> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_I-IV
2008-03-02 21:30 < quanticle> I never liked NIN. Their music just always sounded like the metal-on-metal screech of a train wreck.
2008-03-02 21:30 < Golbez> Just appeared out of nowhere
2008-03-02 21:31 < Golbez> No announcement or inkling it was going to happen
2008-03-02 21:31 < quanticle> Golbez: Most of their albums are like that. Trent Reznor is a secretive fellow.
2008-03-02 21:31 < Golbez> quanticle- Year Zero was heavily hyped, though. Ghosts I-IV had zero hype. Negative, even!
2008-03-02 21:31 < Daniel_Bush_> Are nine inch nails supposed to be like hardware store nails
2008-03-02 21:31 < Golbez> http://ghosts.nin.com is the site though last I checked it appeared down
2008-03-02 21:32 < quanticle> Daniel_Bush: Heh. Depends on what you think of their music.
2008-03-02 21:33 < scorchsaber> Daniel_Bush_: They're a band. /obvious
2008-03-02 21:34 < NotACow> Daniel_Bush_: i've never seen a nine inch long nail in a hardware store.
2008-03-02 21:34 < quanticle> NotACow: Now that you mention it, neither have I. I'
2008-03-02 21:34 < quanticle> ve seen some 4-inch nails though
2008-03-02 21:35 < Golbez> scorchsaber- you say "they" like NIN is plural
2008-03-02 21:35 < Golbez> NIN is a single man who occasionally brings on other people to play instruments. =p
2008-03-02 21:35 < NotACow> quanticle: the longest i've seen is about 4 inches.
2008-03-02 21:35 < NotACow> quanticle: i've seen spikes longer than that, but those are just steel rod
2008-03-02 21:35 < scorchsaber> NotACow: Wait, what are we talking about again?
2008-03-02 21:35 < scorchsaber> DAMN, you ruined it.
2008-03-02 21:36 < NotACow> scorchsaber: haha.
2008-03-02 21:36 < quanticle> NotACow: I guess if you're trying to nail together things that require nine inch nails, you're better off using bolts or screws.
2008-03-02 21:36 < NotACow> Golbez: play, or torture?
2008-03-02 21:36 < Golbez> NotACow- play, the torture is all added in postproduction. =p
2008-03-02 21:44 < noclip> bahahaha, i'm looking at the alleged jimbo sex talks on valleywag
2008-03-02 21:44 < noclip> they're ridiculous, but almost believable
2008-03-02 21:44 < noclip> http://cache.valleywag.com/assets/resources/2008/02/broadbandgetsmehot.png
2008-03-02 21:49 < Krimpet> so, is dialup to broadband what olde-time victorian corsets and hobble skirts are to regular sex?
2008-03-02 21:49 < Leslie_S> sigh. i wish i had naturally straight hair. ;/
2008-03-02 21:49 < Leslie_S> but hey.
2008-03-02 21:49 < Leslie_S> :)
2008-03-02 21:50 < Rinn> I wish I had a million billion dollars.
2008-03-02 21:50 < Cyrius> noclip: the one where he says he's supposed to be making a google killer so he can buy an airplane is just ridiculous
2008-03-02 21:51 < Golbez> so he can buy an airplane to have sex on.
2008-03-02 21:51 < Golbez> as she put it.
2008-03-02 21:51 < noclip> i almost want to believe them
2008-03-02 21:51 < noclip> it just seems like exactly the kind of person jimbo is
2008-03-02 21:51 < Leslie_S> Golbez isnt it cheaper to buy an airplane?
2008-03-02 21:52 < noclip> i love the user comments
2008-03-02 21:52 < noclip> "These chats turned my "stub" into a full wiki page"
2008-03-02 21:52 < Golbez> than what
2008-03-02 21:52 < Cyrius> that's terrible =)
2008-03-02 21:53 * Krimpet ponders, what was the google guys' original motive then?
2008-03-02 21:53 < noclip> money
2008-03-02 21:53 < noclip> of course
2008-03-02 21:53 < Cyrius> getting their doctorates
2008-03-02 21:54 * Krimpet meant that in the context of the "making a google killer so I can buy a sex jet" thing above. <_<
2008-03-02 21:54 < bumm13> not the first time Stanford has produced something due to that reason
2008-03-02 21:54 < Leslie_S> companies that succeed in making a crapload of money usually arent attempting to do what they did.
2008-03-02 21:54 < Leslie_S> even walmart!
2008-03-02 21:54 < Cyrius> they turned it into a company to make money
2008-03-02 21:54 < noclip> Krimpet: obviously, to buy a jet so they could have sex, with each other
2008-03-02 21:54 < Cyrius> but it started as just a research project
2008-03-02 21:55 < noclip> speaking of which
2008-03-02 21:55 < noclip> how did they manage to become a successful company in the first place
2008-03-02 21:55 < noclip> they only got into the advertising business after a lot of success
2008-03-02 21:55 < noclip> how were they making money before?
2008-03-02 21:56 < bumm13> they had a good search engine and smart people
2008-03-02 21:56 < bumm13> that's about all it took, really
2008-03-02 21:56 < noclip> neither of those things is a license to print money
2008-03-02 21:56 < bumm13> eventually, firms like Google get venture capital
2008-03-02 21:56 < Luna-San> There were the sponsored links. Not sure how much money that was worth, though.
2008-03-02 21:56 < Cyrius> venture capital
2008-03-02 21:56 < bumm13> well, it mostly was in the late 90s :P
2008-03-02 21:57 < noclip> alright, but VC funding was a lot tighter after the bubble
2008-03-02 21:57 < noclip> s/bubble/first bubble.
2008-03-02 21:57 < noclip> er /
2008-03-02 21:58 < noclip> so they make this search engine, the first one that doesn't completely suck, and sell some ads on it
2008-03-02 21:58 < bumm13> I don't think that affected Google that much
2008-03-02 21:58 < Ceiling_Cat> MOAR CATZ!
2008-03-02 21:59 < noclip> the transition from that to kajillion dollar internet empire in two years is what's of interest
2008-03-02 21:59 < Leslie_S> is google really that much better than all the other search engines?
2008-03-02 22:00 < Leslie_S> i remember switching to it in like 99, but i dont really remember using other search engines.
2008-03-02 22:00 < Leslie_S> and now...yahoo is even a clone of google, :P
2008-03-02 22:00 < noclip> the one critical thing they have going for them is the design
2008-03-02 22:00 < noclip> try this
2008-03-02 22:00 < noclip> open three browser windows and go to google.com, msn.com, and yahoo.com
2008-03-02 22:00 < bumm13> haha, someone's bitching about being kicked from the channel on my WP talk page :P
2008-03-02 22:00 < noclip> which one is more pleasing to the eye
2008-03-02 22:01 < Leslie_S> noclip i always loved the design, but theyve fucked it up now
2008-03-02 22:01 < Rinn> Leslie_S: Huh?
2008-03-02 22:01 < Leslie_S> Rinn: ?
2008-03-02 22:01 < bumm13> I love it when people make unfounded assumptions about me
2008-03-02 22:01 < noclip> it's still infinitely better than the design holocausts that are msn and yahoo
2008-03-02 22:01 < Rinn> How'd they fuck it up?
2008-03-02 22:01 < Leslie_S> Rinn with a shitloaed of buttons
2008-03-02 22:02 < Rinn> I don't see any.
2008-03-02 22:02 < Leslie_S> and drop down menus
2008-03-02 22:02 < Rinn> Oh, that bar on the top they added awhile ago?
2008-03-02 22:02 < Leslie_S> and they even have a my google, which they tried to shove down my throat, which is basically a craptastic web portal
2008-03-02 22:02 < Leslie_S> yeah.
2008-03-02 22:02 < Rinn> I Platypus'd that away.
2008-03-02 22:02 < noclip> if yahoo replaced their worthless portal with what they have at search.yahoo.com they would gain at least 10% in marketshare
2008-03-02 22:03 < Leslie_S> noclip except search. is a google clone
2008-03-02 22:03 < Krimpet> they've pretty much turned into the same thing yahoo and msn have been for years, with tons of services few people will use, all "conveniently" integrated into a single account
2008-03-02 22:03 < noclip> but what is a clone in this case
2008-03-02 22:03 < noclip> it's like the question of novelty in patents
2008-03-02 22:03 < noclip> what's the threshold of originality
2008-03-02 22:03 < noclip> google is almost as simple as you can get
2008-03-02 22:04 < Rinn> But the features aren't obtrusive.
2008-03-02 22:04 < Leslie_S> wtf started the web portal thing anyway
2008-03-02 22:04 < noclip> cloning them is like printing a book with black text on paper
2008-03-02 22:04 < Leslie_S> web portals piss me off
2008-03-02 22:04 < noclip> Leslie_S: massive piles of cash
2008-03-02 22:04 < Leslie_S> noclip i used to print a lot of those books with black text on white paper.
2008-03-02 22:04 < Leslie_S> noclip but apparently theres a lot of different types of white paper!
2008-03-02 22:05 < noclip> VCs practically delivered dump trucks of cash to anything with the word "internet"
2008-03-02 22:05 < Leslie_S> gloss, matte, offset (offset is uncoated, matte is a little glossy, glossy is. ....reallllll glossy)
2008-03-02 22:05 < noclip> alright, but how do you define "clone"
2008-03-02 22:05 < noclip> are you talking about the algorithms? the design?
2008-03-02 22:06 < Miranda> would be great if we hada rachel marsden pic
2008-03-02 22:06 < Leslie_S> and then theres brand names, weights, and roll weights. (3000 lb roll of 60lb dependoweb glossy!)
2008-03-02 22:06 < noclip> i'd use yahoo with worse results than google just for their less consumer-hostile privacy policy
2008-03-02 22:06 < Krimpet> Leslie_S: one of Yahoo, Excite, or Disney probably spawned that demon
2008-03-02 22:06 < noclip> if they'd only replace that idiotic portal
2008-03-02 22:06 < noclip> i think they're scared of alienating their existing visitors
2008-03-02 22:06 < Leslie_S> noclip google has a conusmer hostile privacy policy?
2008-03-02 22:06 < noclip> in which case they should get a clue
2008-03-02 22:07 < noclip> have you read it?
2008-03-02 22:07 < Leslie_S> Krimpet heh. portals or glossy paper? :P
2008-03-02 22:07 < Leslie_S> noclip no.
2008-03-02 22:07 < noclip> here's the abridged version
2008-03-02 22:07 < noclip> we can track you and your browsing anywhere that uses adsense, store indefinitely all your information and details
2008-03-02 22:08 < Leslie_S> meh. everyone deoes that.
2008-03-02 22:08 < noclip> not exactly
2008-03-02 22:08 < privatemusings> there's a skypecast still going if anyone's interested in joining...
2008-03-02 22:08 < privatemusings> https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=3928983&hash=5038bf8023533e3676bd
2008-03-02 22:08 < noclip> google basically says it can do anything
2008-03-02 22:08 < noclip> even microsoft limits itself a bit
2008-03-02 22:08 < Leslie_S> noclip why do they even have a privacy policy then?
2008-03-02 22:09 < noclip> so that they can't be sued for doing what they do
2008-03-02 22:09 < noclip> yahoo's no saint, they cooperate with the chinese government
2008-03-02 22:10 < noclip> but at least it doesn't have the largest-scale data mining operation in the history of computing
2008-03-02 22:10 < noclip> anyway
2008-03-02 22:10 < noclip> yahoo and microsoft are clueless
2008-03-02 22:11 < Leslie_S> why does being pretty have to cost so much money? :/
2008-03-02 22:11 < noclip> the people who actually use their portals 1) don't exist or 2) are morons
2008-03-02 22:11 < Leslie_S> lol, msn portal still exists?
2008-03-02 22:11 < noclip> of course
2008-03-02 22:12 < noclip> it's the #2 site on the web
2008-03-02 22:12 < Leslie_S> noclip my school has this craptastic portal...
2008-03-02 22:12 < Leslie_S> ;/
2008-03-02 22:12 < noclip> thanks to microsoft's shameless homepage-setting
2008-03-02 22:12 < Leslie_S> noclip the only remotely useful thing on it is a webcam of the school parking lot
2008-03-02 22:12 < noclip> bleh
2008-03-02 22:12 < Leslie_S> when i login to my schools website, i want to do something related to school. i dont want to know the stock quotes!
2008-03-02 22:12 < noclip> anything like that is better cordoned off into it's own thing
2008-03-02 22:13 < noclip> actually
2008-03-02 22:13 < Leslie_S> EH?
2008-03-02 22:13 < noclip> google got into the portal business a few years ago
2008-03-02 22:13 < Messedrocker> noclip, i take it you understand why daniel brandt hates google then?
2008-03-02 22:13 < Leslie_S> does daniel brandt have anything to do with walmartwatch?
2008-03-02 22:14 < Messedrocker> does walmart watch look like it was designed in 1997?
2008-03-02 22:14 < noclip> i would say 1998
2008-03-02 22:15 < Leslie_S> no.
2008-03-02 22:15 < noclip> 97 would be if there was an animated GIF background
2008-03-02 22:15 < scorchsaber> Why does Daniel Brandt redirect to an organization he founded? Surely he's more than just some irrelevant founder? :S
2008-03-02 22:15 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker i wish i could show you walmartbenefits.com.
2008-03-02 22:15 < Leslie_S> Messedrocker but its members only, and theres some pretty serious security implications if i let you use my account. :/
2008-03-02 22:15 < Leslie_S> it looks like it hasnt been edited since 97.
2008-03-02 22:16 < Leslie_S> it doesnt work in anything but internet explorer because of bad javascript
2008-03-02 22:16 < Leslie_S> it doesnt do anything that remotely needs javascript
2008-03-02 22:16 < Leslie_S> php and html would do it fine..
2008-03-02 22:16 < Leslie_S> half the links dont work
2008-03-02 22:16 < scorchsaber> Oh, I see, it's because he criticizes Wikipedia. :P
2008-03-02 22:17 < noclip> is there an article on the jimbo wales sex scandal yet, or is it NN?
2008-03-02 22:17 < nok_cat> no, they're using oversight to cover it up
2008-03-02 22:17 < Cyrius> noclip: we don't need a separate article on it.
2008-03-02 22:18 < Leslie_S> walmart needs to die
2008-03-02 22:18 < Leslie_S> ;/
2008-03-02 22:18 < noclip> dissident thought detected! deploying secret police!
2008-03-02 22:18 < Leslie_S> oh, speaking of, we almost had an emergency at work today
2008-03-02 22:19 < Leslie_S> we nearly had to throw away ~$30,000 in frozen food...
2008-03-02 22:19 < Leslie_S> an entire aisle of freezers got stuck on defrost...
2008-03-02 22:19 < noclip> oh, the design thing reminded me
2008-03-02 22:20 < Leslie_S> the temperature started dropping literally minutes before we would have had to pull all the food out
2008-03-02 22:20 < noclip> why does every major website redesign these days ruin usability
2008-03-02 22:20 < noclip> rottentomatoes is a glaring example
2008-03-02 22:20 < noclip> they took a site that looked dated but worked
2008-03-02 22:20 < noclip> and turned it into a glossy plastic web 2.0 unusable piece of shit
2008-03-02 22:21 < Leslie_S> the co manager said that if it doesnt start dropping in half an hour, we needed to pull everything. and everyone in dept 92 grocery would have to do overtime to help. (we all came in early and this was within an hour of when i had to leave...)
2008-03-02 22:21 < Leslie_S> heh
2008-03-02 22:21 < Leslie_S> noclip nice. love it.
2008-03-02 22:21 * Krimpet is waiting for Web 3.0 SP1.
2008-03-02 22:22 < noclip> bah
2008-03-02 22:23 < noclip> when will people figure out that users don't want all their information in one place
2008-03-02 22:23 < noclip> if i want news, i'll go to a news site
2008-03-02 22:23 < noclip> if i want stocks, i'll go to yahoo finance
2008-03-02 22:24 < noclip> if i want to meet hot singles, i won't do it on the internet
2008-03-02 22:24 < dtobias> noclip: Because the website redesigns are directed by idiot marketroids, who assign them to graphical types who just know how to create eye candy.
2008-03-02 22:24 < noclip> if i want to download yahoo toolbar, it'll be after having a lobotomy
2008-03-02 22:25 < scorchsaber> noclip: How can you say you don't want all your information in one place?
2008-03-02 22:25 < scorchsaber> noclip: You get all your information on one place-- your computer. :/
2008-03-02 22:25 < scorchsaber> noclip: Remember that "one place" is pretty relative.
2008-03-02 22:25 < noclip> you know what i meant
2008-03-02 22:25 < scorchsaber> noclip: Some people want that "one place" to be the computer, others a website.
2008-03-02 22:25 < scorchsaber> noclip: Who are you to determine what all users want?
2008-03-02 22:26 < noclip> i determine what i want
2008-03-02 22:26 < noclip> it just so happens that the majority of designers agree with me
2008-03-02 22:26 < noclip> as do users
2008-03-02 22:26 < noclip> as evidenced by google's success
2008-03-02 22:27 < scorchsaber> noclip: google is 'getting all your information in one place' in a sense
2008-03-02 22:27 < scorchsaber> noclip: And by the way, "the majority of users' != 'users'
2008-03-02 22:27 < noclip> oh, they're getting it alright
2008-03-02 22:27 < scorchsaber> s/'/"/
2008-03-02 22:27 < noclip> they're just not spewing it out into an ugly-ass portal
2008-03-02 22:28 < noclip> they're keeping it to themselves and probably forwarding it to the government
2008-03-02 22:28 < Krimpet> personally, I like to be able to choose which website I use, different tools for different tasks. not have a bloated mega-website shoving everything down my throat
2008-03-02 22:28 < scorchsaber> Just because a website lets you get everything in the same place doesn't mean it's shoving all that information down your throat
2008-03-02 22:28 < scorchsaber> Nor does it mean it's an "ugly-ass portal"
2008-03-02 22:29 < noclip> both of those hold true for msn and yahoo
2008-03-02 22:29 < noclip> and that's all i'm arguing
2008-03-02 22:29 < scorchsaber> noclip: fine, but this is the first mention of either of those on this page of my IRC logs.
2008-03-02 22:29 < scorchsaber> noclip: The statement I responded to was not about either of them.
2008-03-02 22:30 < noclip> the entire discussion has been about msn, yahoo, google, and rottentomatoes
2008-03-02 22:30 * Krimpet kinda abhors the idea of "web applications" in general.
2008-03-02 22:30 < scorchsaber> noclip: That may be so, but you made a general statement that applied to far more than msn, yahoo, google, or rottentomatoes
2008-03-02 22:31 < scorchsaber> noclip: and also far more than ugly-ass portals.
2008-03-02 22:31 < noclip> it was implied by its context that it was about yahoo and msn
2008-03-02 22:31 < scorchsaber> noclip: not really. It was a follow-up statement.
2008-03-02 22:31 < scorchsaber> As in "msn and yahoo suck because users hate getting all their information in one place"
2008-03-02 22:32 < scorchsaber> Which still applies to far more than msn and yahoo.
2008-03-02 22:33 < noclip> the point is moot because serving up all of a user's information in one place, in a format each user wants, to every user is impossible
2008-03-02 22:34 < scorchsaber> noclip: That's definitely true. However, that doesn't mean that users in general hate getting all their information in one place.
2008-03-02 22:34 < scorchsaber> noclip: In just the same way, separating up the information into separate sites in a way that each user wants, to every user, is also impossible
2008-03-02 22:35 < Krimpet> that's what standards like RSS are for, in theory
2008-03-02 22:35 < noclip> it's certainly useful to far more users
2008-03-02 22:36 < scorchsaber> noclip: that maybe so, but that "users don't like getting all their information in one place" still doesn't follow
2008-03-02 22:36 < scorchsaber> s/maybe/may be/
2008-03-02 22:36 < noclip> within a given context, getting information in one place may very well be more desirable
2008-03-02 22:37 < noclip> i certainly approve of having my wireless and internet bill combined
2008-03-02 22:37 < noclip> or seeing all my accounts in my online banking
2008-03-02 22:37 < noclip> but combining different types of information leads to trouble
2008-03-02 22:38 < Krimpet> what we need is more open standards for integrating stuff, instead of huge portal companies gobbling up what services they can and "integrating" them
2008-03-02 22:38 < scorchsaber> noclip: Not necessarily. Plenty of people use and enjoy using RSS (bringing up what Krimpet said).
2008-03-02 22:38 < noclip> that's the point
2008-03-02 22:38 < noclip> RSS lets you choose what content to combine and how
2008-03-02 22:38 < scorchsaber> noclip: RSS feeds are "getting all your information in one place".
2008-03-02 22:38 < noclip> not neccessarily
2008-03-02 22:39 < scorchsaber> noclip: there's nothing inherent in getting all your information in one place that disallows organizing it however you want.
2008-03-02 22:39 < scorchsaber> noclip: Also, I need a shorter term for "getting all your information in one place"
2008-03-02 22:39 < scorchsaber> :P
2008-03-02 22:39 < scorchsaber> "gayiiop"?
2008-03-02 22:39 < noclip> what are we even arguing about
2008-03-02 22:40 < scorchsaber> noclip: The idea that users in general don't like getting all their information in one place.
2008-03-02 22:40 < noclip> i used an overly narrow definition of "getting information in one place"
2008-03-02 22:40 < noclip> fine
2008-03-02 22:40 < noclip> users don't like having information dictated by others shoved down their throats
2008-03-02 22:41 < scorchsaber> noclip: I can definitely agree with that.
2008-03-02 22:41 < noclip> that's a huge part of the reason yahoo and msn don't have more marketshare
2008-03-02 22:41 < noclip> the results are virtually the same
2008-03-02 22:42 < noclip> microsoft has a lot of stigma for being microsoft
2008-03-02 22:42 < noclip> but yahoo could be a serious competitor to google
2008-03-02 22:43 < noclip> ha
2008-03-02 22:43 < noclip> even when trying to imitate google, yahoo can't resist dumping extraneous crap into it's pages
2008-03-02 22:44 < noclip> http://search.yahoo.com
2008-03-02 22:44 < noclip> ajax up the ass with dynamic menus and fading gradients
2008-03-02 22:46 < noclip> bah
2008-03-02 22:46 < noclip> yahoo even has better results in some cases
2008-03-02 22:47 < noclip> http://www.google.com/search?q=active+directory+replication+interval
2008-03-02 22:47 < noclip> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=active+directory+replication+interval
2008-03-02 22:47 < noclip> if only they'd get a clue
2008-03-02 22:48 < Messedrocker> that's what's irritating about google
2008-03-02 22:48 < Messedrocker> the junk they have as results
2008-03-02 22:48 < Messedrocker> yes google
2008-03-02 22:49 < Messedrocker> we get it
2008-03-02 22:49 < Messedrocker> you have an index of over nine thousand million
2008-03-02 22:49 < Messedrocker> or nine thousand billion
2008-03-02 22:49 < Messedrocker> too bad it's a lot of shit
2008-03-02 22:49 < Krimpet> it's OVER NINE THOUSAND????